Re: Install de mon laptop - partitionement du disque

2014-10-27 Thread Jean-Marc
Mon, 27 Oct 2014 00:58:52 +0100 Gaël gag...@gmail.com écrivait : Hello, salut Gaël, salut à tous, [...] Merci à tous pour vos réponses. Je pense me diriger vers un partitionement comme suit : - pas de partition dedié pour /boot (apparement, ce n'est pas nécessaire); - une partition de 2GB

Re: Install de mon laptop - partitionement du disque

2014-10-27 Thread daniel huhardeaux
Le 27/10/2014 07:05, Jean-Marc a écrit : [...] Merci à tous pour vos réponses. Je pense me diriger vers un partitionement comme suit : - pas de partition dedié pour /boot (apparement, ce n'est pas nécessaire); - une partition de 2GB de swap; - une grande partition sous LVM avec: - 2 Lv's pour /

Re: [HS] Noyau personnalisé contre noyau générique

2014-10-27 Thread maderios
On 10/26/2014 06:51 PM, Francois Boisson wrote: Le Sun, 26 Oct 2014 11:40:16 +0100 maderios mader...@gmail.com a écrit: Tu mentionnes ici une utilisation serveur ou/et parcs de machines, ce n'est pas ce dont je parle. Il est bien évident que dans ce contexte, les noyaux précompilés sont la

Re: [HS] Noyau personnalisé contre noyau générique

2014-10-27 Thread BERTRAND Joël
maderios a écrit : On 10/24/2014 03:06 PM, BERTRAND Joël wrote: maderios a écrit : On 10/24/2014 10:40 AM, Stéphane GARGOLY wrote: Je suis - juste - un peu plus prudent concernant le gain de réactivité qu'aurait généré un noyau personnalisé mais, bon, cela doit certainement dépendre de

Re: [HS] Noyau personnalisé contre noyau générique

2014-10-27 Thread BERTRAND Joël
admini a écrit : conclusion: aujourd'hui, la recompile pour moi, a un champs assez limité en environnement de production. en effet, les machines sont crées et détruites toutes les heures, la recompile c'est vraiment dans les cas très particuliers dans l'industrie où l'embarqué est présent.

Re: [HS] Noyau personnalisé contre noyau générique

2014-10-27 Thread BERTRAND Joël
maderios a écrit : On 10/26/2014 10:48 AM, admini wrote: Le 25/10/2014 10:41, maderios a écrit : On 10/25/2014 12:07 AM, admini wrote: voilà, le mot: priorité. c'est quoi la priorité aujourd'hui qui justifie qu'on passe du temps à compiler le kernel? La priorité pour moi, c'est ne pas

Re: [HS] Noyau personnalisé contre noyau générique

2014-10-27 Thread BERTRAND Joël
maderios a écrit : On 10/26/2014 06:51 PM, Francois Boisson wrote: Le Sun, 26 Oct 2014 11:40:16 +0100 maderios mader...@gmail.com a écrit: Tu mentionnes ici une utilisation serveur ou/et parcs de machines, ce n'est pas ce dont je parle. Il est bien évident que dans ce contexte, les noyaux

[HS] Au propos des branches du noyau Linux

2014-10-27 Thread Stéphane GARGOLY
Bonjour à tous les utilisateurs et développeurs de Debian : Le lundi 27 octobre 2014 à 08:47, BERTRAND Joël joel.bertr...@systella.fr a écrit : Linus lui-même a indiqué sur les listes de diffusion du noyau que le 2.6 de kernel.org était _le_ noyau de développement et qu'il n'y aurait

Re: A propos de la controverse Systemd

2014-10-27 Thread S L
Pour info, un nouveau groupe Meetup : http://www.meetup.com/systemd-france/ Je précise que je n'ai pas d'opinion sur ce débat :) Bonne semaine -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme

Re: Install de mon laptop - partitionement du disque

2014-10-27 Thread Gaël
Hello, Es tu sûr d'avoir lu les réponses à ton message initial? Il t'a été dit que /boot ne *doit pas* être dans LVM. Et pourtant tu veux le faire ... As-tu pensé au chiffrement ? en ajoutant du chiffrement avant la LVM, c'est parfait. J'y jette un oeil. Si vous avez des

Re: Install de mon laptop - partitionement du disque

2014-10-27 Thread Nicolas KOWALSKI
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 09:14:16AM +0100, daniel huhardeaux wrote: Le 27/10/2014 07:05, Jean-Marc a écrit : [...] Merci à tous pour vos réponses. Je pense me diriger vers un partitionement comme suit : - pas de partition dedié pour /boot (apparement, ce n'est pas nécessaire); - une

Wheezy/Gnome 3: le pointeur de la souris se déplace seul sur le calendrier

2014-10-27 Thread Olivier
Bonjour, J'ai un système sous Wheezy/Gnome. Depuis quelques semaines maintenant, le pointeur de la souris se déplace seul sur le calendrier. Plus précisément, après quelques minutes d'utilisation, quelque soit sa position de départ, le pointeur de la souris se déplace seul sur le haut de

Re: Install de mon laptop - partitionement du disque

2014-10-27 Thread Gaël
Avoir le /boot dans un LV ne pose pas de problème, je confirme. Je ne dis pas que c'est bien, je dis juste que ça marche, Wow, merci. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet

Re: Install de mon laptop - partitionement du disque

2014-10-27 Thread daniel huhardeaux
Le 27/10/2014 16:23, Nicolas KOWALSKI a écrit : Es tu sûr d'avoir lu les réponses à ton message initial? Il t'a été dit que /boot ne *doit pas* être dans LVM. Et pourtant tu veux le faire ... Avoir le /boot dans un LV ne pose pas de problème, je confirme. Je ne dis pas que c'est bien, je dis

Re: [HS] Noyau personnalisé contre noyau générique

2014-10-27 Thread Frédéric MASSOT
Le 27/10/2014 09:45, maderios a écrit : On 10/26/2014 06:51 PM, Francois Boisson wrote: Le Sun, 26 Oct 2014 11:40:16 +0100 maderios mader...@gmail.com a écrit: Tu mentionnes ici une utilisation serveur ou/et parcs de machines, ce n'est pas ce dont je parle. Il est bien évident que dans ce

Noyau personnalisé

2014-10-27 Thread maderios
On 10/27/2014 07:58 PM, Frédéric MASSOT wrote: Par ailleurs, j'essaie de mettre la main sur la description des patches que Debian applique aux noyaux originaux de kernel.org. Quelqu'un connaît il un lien? Merci d'avance. Tu peux regarder sur la page du paquet de chaque noyau, exemple :

Re: Wheezy/Gnome 3: le pointeur de la souris se déplace seul sur le calendrier

2014-10-27 Thread andre_debian
On Monday 27 October 2014 16:35:51 Olivier wrote: J'ai un système sous Wheezy/Gnome. Depuis quelques semaines maintenant, le pointeur de la souris se déplace seul sur le calendrier. Plus précisément, après quelques minutes d'utilisation, quelque soit sa position de départ, le pointeur de la

Re: Install de mon laptop - partitionement du disque

2014-10-27 Thread Jean-Marc
Merci à Daniel, Nicolas et Gaël pour leurs conseils. Au sujet de la création d'une partition pour /boot, si je l'ai proposé et si je n'ai pas réagi de suite, c'est parce que j'ai eu l'info via un autre canal entre temps. Comme je ne compte pas utiliser ce laptop avec autre chose que GRUB2, je

RE: Noyau personnalisé

2014-10-27 Thread valentin OVD
Les patches que Debian appliquent sur le kernel peuvent être facilement trouvé dans le linux_3.16.5-1.debian.tar.xz (sous les dossiers debian/patches) http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux/linux_3.16.5-1.debian.tar.xz Je trouve cela assez clair et cela ne prête pas a confusion.

Re: Noyau personnalisé

2014-10-27 Thread François Boisson
http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/l/linux/linux_3.16.5-1_changelog il y a les modifications upstream puis les modfications Debian. Merci. On peut tout de même dire que cette façon de présenter tout en vrac (c'est d'ailleurs général chez Debian) engendre de la

Re: Install de mon laptop - partitionement du disque

2014-10-27 Thread Gaël
Au sujet de la création d'une partition pour /boot, si je l'ai proposé et si je n'ai pas réagi de suite, c'est parce que j'ai eu l'info via un autre canal entre temps. Comme je ne compte pas utiliser ce laptop avec autre chose que GRUB2, je vais poursuivre dans cette direction. Il est

Re: Wheezy/Gnome 3: le pointeur de la souris se déplace seul sur le calendrier

2014-10-27 Thread Haricophile
Le Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:35:51 +0100, Olivier oza.4...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour, J'ai un système sous Wheezy/Gnome. Depuis quelques semaines maintenant, le pointeur de la souris se déplace seul sur le calendrier. Plus précisément, après quelques minutes d'utilisation, quelque soit

Re: Install de mon laptop - partitionement du disque

2014-10-27 Thread Christophe Moille
Le Monday 27 Oct 2014 à 22:19:55 (+0100), Jean-Marc a écrit : Au sujet du chiffrement, quel est l'intérêt autre que la protection des données en cas de perte ou de vol ? Et quelqu'un a-t-il de l'expérience au niveau maintenance ? N'est-ce pas trop contraignant ? Du côté protection, je me

Re: Install de mon laptop - partitionement du disque

2014-10-27 Thread JF Straeten
Re, On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 10:57:32PM +0100, Gaël wrote: [...] Tu tapes ta passphrase au boot (juste après grub), et voilà. Si tu branches ton disque dans un autre ordi, soit il va te demander la phrase tout seul, soit cryptsetup luksOpen te la demandera. Tiens, et quelle est la charge

Re: Install de mon laptop - partitionement du disque

2014-10-27 Thread Haricophile
Le Mon, 27 Oct 2014 22:19:55 +0100, Jean-Marc jean-m...@6jf.be a écrit : Au sujet du chiffrement, quel est l'intérêt autre que la protection des données en cas de perte ou de vol ? Et quelqu'un a-t-il de l'expérience au niveau maintenance ? N'est-ce pas trop contraignant ? Du côté

OT Artandome de Google y sus aplicaciones

2014-10-27 Thread Debia Linux
Debianeros: Hace unos minutos intente acceder a mi cuenta de email con gmail. Queria enviar un mensaje para hacer una pregunta a ustedes sobre algunas cuestiones tecnicas (que dejare para despues). Resulta que uso Chromium y me sale un mensaje: This version is no suported Y ya no me permite ni

Re: OT Artandome de Google y sus aplicaciones

2014-10-27 Thread Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus
Uhm... pues entiendo tu molestia, aunque eso no exime tu descuidad ortografía (desde el título donde te comes la H inicial, pero bueno). No sé yo por la misma razón por la que expresas tu molestia es que procuro no usas sus navegadores: Chrome y Chromium, que además consumen cantidades enormes de

Re: Rubberhose para Wheezy

2014-10-27 Thread Allan J. Aguilar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 15:21:22 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: El Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:11:55 +, Allan J. Aguilar escribió: Me pregunto si existe alguna forma de crear un archivo de cifrado negable en Debian Wheezy como

Re: OT Artandome de Google y sus aplicaciones

2014-10-27 Thread Emmanuel Brenes
El 27/10/2014 01:05, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus escribió: Uhm... pues entiendo tu molestia, aunque eso no exime tu descuidad ortografía (desde el título donde te comes la H inicial, pero bueno). No sé yo por la misma razón por la que expresas tu molestia es que procuro no usas sus

Re: OT: Navegador web

2014-10-27 Thread jEsuSdA 8)
El 26/10/14 a las 14:32, J. OCTAVIO Avalos escribió: Si me refiero mas que nada al consumo de recursos y velocidad de carga. Normalmente utilizaba Opera pero tiene el inconveniente de que desde el no se pueden realizar ningun tipo de tramite de la agencia tributaria ni de la Seg. Social.

Re: OT: Navegador web

2014-10-27 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
El dom, 26-10-2014 a las 13:43 +0100, J. OCTAVIO Avalos escribió: Hola lista, Tan solo una pequeña cuestión, queria saber que navegador os parece a vosotros que obtiene mejor rendimiento. Un saludo y muchas gracias -- Octavio Ávalos así a ojo, y sin definir que deberíamos entender

Re: OT Artandome de Google y sus aplicaciones

2014-10-27 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 27 Oct 2014 00:16:17 -0600, Debia Linux escribió: Debianeros: Hace unos minutos intente acceder a mi cuenta de email con gmail. Queria enviar un mensaje para hacer una pregunta a ustedes sobre algunas cuestiones tecnicas (que dejare para despues). Resulta que uso Chromium y me

Re: Rubberhose para Wheezy

2014-10-27 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 27 Oct 2014 07:34:07 +, Allan J. Aguilar escribió: On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 15:21:22 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: El Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:11:55 +, Allan J. Aguilar escribió: Me pregunto si existe alguna forma de crear un archivo de cifrado negable en Debian

Repositorio de Debian Optimizado y Pequeño

2014-10-27 Thread Richard Díaz Rodríguez
Hola a todos los Amigos de la lista tengo un pequeño lio aca, tengo poco ancho de banda 64 kbit/s y desearia actualizar mi repositorio de debian 7 desde internet este es el scrip que tengo: #!/bin/bash DIRECTORY=/var/www/mirror/debian/ logs=/tmp/mirror_$(($RANDOM%100)).log echo Start

Re: Repositorio de Debian Optimizado y Pequeño

2014-10-27 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 27 Oct 2014 10:49:24 -0400, Richard Díaz Rodríguez escribió: Hola a todos los Amigos de la lista tengo un pequeño lio aca, tengo poco ancho de banda 64 kbit/s y desearia actualizar mi repositorio de debian 7 desde internet este es el scrip que tengo: (...) quisiera que este scrip

¿Qué significa esto que me aparece en la consola?

2014-10-27 Thread José Manuel (EB8CXW)
Hola Tengo Debian Jessie Cada vez que instalo algo o actualizo por consola me aparece lo siguiente, es un trozo pues es mucho más grande. [...] dpkg: aviso: falta el fichero de lista de ficheros del paquete `laptop-detect', se supondrá que el paquete no tiene ningún fichero actualmente

Re: OT Artandome de Google y sus aplicaciones

2014-10-27 Thread Debia Linux
2014-10-27 8:28 GMT-06:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: El Mon, 27 Oct 2014 00:16:17 -0600, Debia Linux escribió: Debianeros: Hace unos minutos intente acceder a mi cuenta de email con gmail. Queria enviar un mensaje para hacer una pregunta a ustedes sobre algunas cuestiones tecnicas (que

Carsten Schulze te envió una solicitud de contacto hace un tiempo.

2014-10-27 Thread Carsten Schulze a través de XING
Title: Carsten Schulze te envió una solicitud de contacto hace un tiempo. Aún tienes una solicitud de contacto sin confirmar.

Re: ¿Qué significa esto que me aparece en la consola?

2014-10-27 Thread Manolo Díaz
Hola Tengo Debian Jessie Cada vez que instalo algo o actualizo por consola me aparece lo siguiente, es un trozo pues es mucho más grande. [...] dpkg: aviso: falta el fichero de lista de ficheros del paquete `laptop-detect', se supondrá que el paquete no tiene ningún fichero actualmente

Re: Como remover o Akamaihd

2014-10-27 Thread Rodolfo
Uma pergunta, como foi que você conseguiu identificar que esse akamai estava na sua maquina ? Em 25 de outubro de 2014 16:01, Nelson Ramos nelson.pra...@gmail.com escreveu: Pessoal, me desculpem, mas desisti. Acabei por reinstalar o sistema. Próximo passo será manter um antivírus e o firewall

Re: Como remover o Akamaihd

2014-10-27 Thread Diego Rabatone
(não sei se alguém postou esse link antes, sei que não é 4Linux, mas navegador é navegador) http://semvirus.pt/asrv-a-akamaihd-net-pop-up-ads/ Diego Rabatone Oliveira diraol(arroba)diraol(ponto)eng(ponto)br Identica: (@diraol) http://identi.ca/diraol Twitter:

Re: http://debianfork.org/

2014-10-27 Thread Andre N Batista
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:05:05PM +, P. J. wrote: Em 24 de outubro de 2014 18:58, Andre N Batista andrenbati...@gmail.com escreveu: O problema é tomar informação a partir de artigos, tanto mais artigos que tem seu argumento principal na vilanização do outro. Trolls? Se você se der

Alinhamento de disco setor 128

2014-10-27 Thread Leandro
Galera o motivo para entrarmos no modo expert do fdisk,e setar o inicio do setor para 128 isso se dá por qual motivo? Abraços. -- Leandro Paulo

Italia prohíbe la imposición de Windows en PCs nuevos

2014-10-27 Thread Dausacker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El Tribunal Supremo italiano ha declarado ilegal la práctica de obligar a los usuarios a pagar por una licencia de Windows pre-instalado cuando compran un nuevo PC. “Una victoria para el software libre sobre el ‘impuesto de Microsoft'”,

Re: iceweasel Video can't be played because the file is corrupt

2014-10-27 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 08:41:11PM +0100, Andreas Rönnquist wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:23:13 +, Brad Rogersb...@fineby.me.uk wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 18:56:12 + St-Laurent, Pierre pstla...@odu.edu wrote: Hello Pierre, Thanks Brad for giving it a try. You're welcome.

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-27 Thread lee
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: Do you use tmux? No, I do not really see the interest of using it, I must admit it. One advantage is that you can detach from the session and even log out and come back later, and it also survives the X server going down. -- Again we must be afraid of

Re: iceweasel Video can't be played because the file is corrupt

2014-10-27 Thread Simon Hollenbach
On 27/10/14 07:18, Bob Holtzman wrote: Uhh, maybe look yet again. Mine says 24.6.0. To make sure I just ran apt-get update apt-get upgrade with no change to browser or system. I suggest to everyone wanting to know the available versions of some Debian package using packages.debian.org. For

Re: Screen doesn't turn off

2014-10-27 Thread Catalin Soare
On Oct 26, 2014 6:08 PM, Alan Greenberger ala...@ptd.net wrote: On 2014-10-23, Catalin Soare lolinux.so...@gmail.com wrote: --001a11397ac09df76505061dfacf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, I've got 2 computera, both running Debian Wheezy, all updates applied. One of them

Re: iceweasel Video can't be played because the file is corrupt

2014-10-27 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 27/10/14 18:45, Simon Hollenbach wrote: On 27/10/14 07:18, Bob Holtzman wrote: Uhh, maybe look yet again. Mine says 24.6.0. To make sure I just ran apt-get update apt-get upgrade with no change to browser or system. I suggest to everyone wanting to know the available versions of some

Re: Debian and upstream choices

2014-10-27 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Please do not Cc me personally. Hello Lee, Am Montag, 27. Oktober 2014, 00:05:03 schrieb lee: Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de writes: Maybe I failed at avoiding personal attacks, but I still think I didn´t. On any account, my attempt to bring this upstream did not produce the

Re: debian-installer grub install problem

2014-10-27 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 09:06:26PM -0700, Ric Marques wrote: I need to install wheezy via pxe boot to many (hundreds) of systems. The problem I am currently running into in my testing is that my boot drive is enumerated by udev as /dev/sdat in many of those systems, and the grub-install

Exim 4 configuration/package problems

2014-10-27 Thread Paul Duncan
Hello, I'm having a problem which stems from me accidentally deleting the /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template file. I figured it would be a simple matter of removing and re-installing the package, but it does not seem to be. I have even tried purging. Currently, if I try to do a purge of exim4,

Re: Exim 4 configuration/package problems

2014-10-27 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 27 Oct 2014 10:54:38 + Paul Duncan pau...@soi-team.org wrote: Hello Paul, Currently, if I try to do a purge of exim4, this is what happens: exim4 is a meta-package that pulls in various others. It does not contain the file you deleted. A search at https://packages.debian.org/

Re: reInstalling my laptop

2014-10-27 Thread Tanstaafl
On 10/26/2014 3:17 PM, Jean-Marc jean-m...@6jf.be wrote: Thank so much for your answers. After reading them in the list archives, I think I will go for: - no dedicated partition for /boot; For my new debian groupware server (sogo, working great so far), I just installed with the defaults,

Re: Exim 4 configuration/package problems

2014-10-27 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 27 Oct 2014 11:12:34 + Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote: Hello, is in exim4-config. Try re-installing that. Should have said ...just that. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent I ain't got no time for

Re: Exim 4 configuration/package problems

2014-10-27 Thread Paul Duncan
Hi Brad, Thanks very much for that. Purging exim4-config and then doing a complete apt-get install of exim4 did the trick :-) Cheers, Paul. On 27/10/14 11:12, Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 27 Oct 2014 10:54:38 + Paul Duncan pau...@soi-team.org wrote: Hello Paul, Currently, if I try to

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-27 Thread Darac Marjal
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 11:37:32PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: On 25/10/2014, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Sb, 25 oct 14, 19:04:18, Bret Busby wrote: :~# df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on ... /dev/sda8 77G 73G 194M 100%

Re: Installing Debian remotely in an unmanaged VPS

2014-10-27 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 04:17:55PM -0500, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: I'd like to install Debian in an unmanaged VPS which has Debian installed already. This is so that I can customize the installation by using LVM for instance. I'm following https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Remote but

Re: Exim 4 configuration/package problems

2014-10-27 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 27 Oct 2014 11:32:29 + Paul Duncan pau...@soi-team.org wrote: Hello Paul, Thanks very much for that. Purging exim4-config and then doing a complete apt-get install of exim4 did the trick :-) You're welcome. Although I was far from sure that it would work, I had my fingers crossed.

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-27 Thread Christian Seiler
Am 26.10.2014 23:38, schrieb lee: libsystemd0 is just 140 KiB and contains utility functions that might be useful for programs interfacing with systemd. It is absolutely harmless on systems with another init system, it will just tell the programs that systemd is not running. logger itself

Re: Strange behavior in real terminals

2014-10-27 Thread Darac Marjal
On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 03:06:04PM -0600, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: Hello. I noticed that by using the cursor keys in the default terminals (Ctrl+Alt+1 to 6) one can move the cursor to empty lines. Is this how it is supposed to behave?. No. Bash usually hooks the Up and Down cursor keys

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-27 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 02:41:26PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 23.10.2014 20:40, lee a écrit : berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: The only problem is bash, here: it is unable to handle multi-instances, so the histories are lost more or less randomly when I

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-27 Thread Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis
Στις 27-10-2014 14:53, Christian Seiler έγραψε: To me a lot of the anti-systemd response here seems to be a purely gut-driven emotional response. I realize that what kind of preferences we have in the software we want to use has a large emotional component. For example, I don't think you can put

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-27 Thread Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis
Στις 27-10-2014 16:05, Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis έγραψε: Στις 27-10-2014 14:53, Christian Seiler έγραψε: To me a lot of the anti-systemd response here seems to be a purely gut-driven emotional response. I realize that what kind of preferences we have in the software we want to use has a large

Re: Who's locking down the code?

2014-10-27 Thread Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis
Στις 25-10-2014 20:30, goli...@riseup.net έγραψε: On 2014-10-25 12:14, Laurent Bigonville wrote: golinux wrote: Would appreciate comments on this observation: Look at the source code (while you're at it, note who are the upstream maintainers of util-linux). Even they (so far) allow

Re: Who's locking down the code?

2014-10-27 Thread John Hasler
This is something called util-linux-ng which isn't even in Debian. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: iceweasel Video can't be played because the file is corrupt

2014-10-27 Thread Andreas Rönnquist
On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 23:18:28 -0700, Bob Holtzmanhol...@cox.net wrote: On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 08:41:11PM +0100, Andreas Rönnquist wrote: -- 8 -- Look again - the version of Iceweasel in stable is 31.2.0, Debian has started to

Re: Who's locking down the code?

2014-10-27 Thread Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis
Στις 27-10-2014 16:37, John Hasler έγραψε: This is something called util-linux-ng which isn't even in Debian. Plz, prove that i'm wrong. Quotting, util-linux is a standard package of the Linux operating system. A fork, util-linux-ng—with ng meaning next generation—was created when

Re: Who's locking down the code?

2014-10-27 Thread Martin Read
On 27/10/14 14:37, John Hasler wrote: This is something called util-linux-ng which isn't even in Debian. The internet tells me that the current upstream incarnation of util-linux was called util-linux-ng between 2006-2010, and apparently has not had its mailing list renamed when the project

Re: EFI SecureBoot and Trusted Computing in Debian

2014-10-27 Thread Florian Weimer
* Marty: What I call the manifesto [1] claims that UEFI SecureBoot is needed in a post Snowden World. I don't think it's true. Apple and some Android devices are already locked down very tightly, and it is not clear that this has helped to protect users' privacy and prevent access to stored

Re: Exim 4 configuration/package problems

2014-10-27 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 27 Oct 2014, Paul Duncan wrote: Thanks very much for that. Purging exim4-config and then doing a complete apt-get install of exim4 did the trick :-) For the record, you don't need to purge and reinstall to get back configuration files you may have accidentally deleted. Just use:

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-27 Thread Christian Seiler
Am 27.10.2014 15:05, schrieb Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis: Στις 27-10-2014 14:53, Christian Seiler έγραψε: To me a lot of the anti-systemd response here seems to be a purely gut-driven emotional response. I realize that what kind of preferences we have in the software we want to use has a large

Re: Linux kernel version for Jessie

2014-10-27 Thread berenger . morel
Le 27.10.2014 01:12, Santiago Vila a écrit : On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 10:56:19PM +0200, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: what kernel version will Jessie have when it became stable ? Is there any chance for newer version than 3.16.x (for example 3.17.x, 3.18.x). Is this important at all? You will

Jessie: Weekly or Beta?

2014-10-27 Thread softwatt
I am interesting in using Jessie. The Debian page at https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ presents me with 4 ISO's: Beta 1, Beta 2, Weekly, Daily. When it comes to stability, which one is the best? Also, a sub question: the following line confuses me: Installing with the

apt.conf.d: Multiple declarations of one value?

2014-10-27 Thread mad
Hi! Does anyone know if it is possible to specify a configuration option in apt.conf.d multiple times and all values will be used? Example: $ cat 50unattended-upgrades [...] Unattended-Upgrade::Origins-Pattern { origin=Debian,archive=${distro_codename},label=Debian-Security; }; [...] $

Re: Jessie: Weekly or Beta?

2014-10-27 Thread Jochen Spieker
softwatt: I am interesting in using Jessie. The Debian page at https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ presents me with 4 ISO's: Beta 1, Beta 2, Weekly, Daily. When it comes to stability, which one is the best? What do you mean exactly when you say stability? The latest beta has

Re: Jessie: Weekly or Beta?

2014-10-27 Thread Eric Sharkey
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 1:24 PM, softwatt softw...@gmx.com wrote: I am interesting in using Jessie. The Debian page at https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ presents me with 4 ISO's: Beta 1, Beta 2, Weekly, Daily. When it comes to stability, which one is the best? If you're

Re: Jessie: Weekly or Beta?

2014-10-27 Thread Eric Sharkey
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Jochen Spieker m...@well-adjusted.de wrote: | If you read only one document before installing, read our Installation | Howto, a quick walkthrough of the installation process. http://d-i.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apa.html It mentions four installation methods.

Re: Jessie: Weekly or Beta?

2014-10-27 Thread softwatt
On 10/27/2014 07:58 PM, Eric Sharkey wrote: On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Jochen Spieker m...@well-adjusted.de wrote: | If you read only one document before installing, read our Installation | Howto, a quick walkthrough of the installation process.

Re: Jessie: Weekly or Beta?

2014-10-27 Thread softwatt
On 10/27/2014 07:53 PM, Jochen Spieker wrote: I'd just try the most current daily build. I expect it to work for most cases. On 10/27/2014 07:56 PM, Eric Sharkey wrote: If you want to try it out, the latest named beta release is probably the next best. Those are two conflicting opinions, and

Re: Jessie: Weekly or Beta?

2014-10-27 Thread softwatt
Also, when Jessie becomes stable, will an apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade give me the same stable version, regardless of which base system I installed? (Daily, Weekly,Beta) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Jessie: Weekly or Beta?

2014-10-27 Thread Eric Sharkey
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 2:25 PM, softwatt softw...@gmx.com wrote: On 10/27/2014 07:53 PM, Jochen Spieker wrote: I'd just try the most current daily build. I expect it to work for most cases. On 10/27/2014 07:56 PM, Eric Sharkey wrote: If you want to try it out, the latest named beta release

Re: Debian and upstream choices

2014-10-27 Thread lee
Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de writes: Please do not Cc me personally. Hello Lee, Am Montag, 27. Oktober 2014, 00:05:03 schrieb lee: Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de writes: Maybe I failed at avoiding personal attacks, but I still think I didn´t. On any account, my

Re: Check whether an update for a particular package is available without upgrading

2014-10-27 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 26 oct 14, 14:54:45, Keith Christian wrote: Hi Andrei, Thanks for the extra commands. Unfortunately, some don't work on my Wheezy system, are you using a more recent version of aptitude or apt-get perhaps? No, just a few typos, sorry. Here is some output: aptitude search

Re: Jessie: Weekly or Beta?

2014-10-27 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 27 oct 14, 20:27:57, softwatt wrote: Also, when Jessie becomes stable, will an apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade give me the same stable version, regardless of which base system I installed? (Daily, Weekly,Beta) Same package versions, but that doesn't necessarily mean the system

Re: Jessie: Weekly or Beta?

2014-10-27 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 27 oct 14, 19:24:25, softwatt wrote: Also, a sub question: the following line confuses me: Installing with the Debian-Installer. I am assuming the installer is the bootable ISO file. The title seems to imply there are other ways to install Debian. are there? Debootstrap was already

Re: apt.conf.d: Multiple declarations of one value?

2014-10-27 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 27 oct 14, 18:34:04, mad wrote: Hi! Does anyone know if it is possible to specify a configuration option in apt.conf.d multiple times and all values will be used? Example: $ cat 50unattended-upgrades [...] Unattended-Upgrade::Origins-Pattern {

Need help setting up printing in Jessie

2014-10-27 Thread Paul E Condon
I'm running Jessie on an HP Pentium host that's a several years old. Desktop software is Xfce4 and CUPS from a Debian repository, as is all software on the box. Printing works for the LibreOffice suite, but not for Emacs23-lucid, or for plain text files. What do I need to do to get them

Re: Check whether an update for a particular package is available without upgrading

2014-10-27 Thread Keith Christian
And using aptitude search '?upgradable' (sans the middle 'e') it works great. Thank you. Keith On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Du, 26 oct 14, 14:54:45, Keith Christian wrote: Hi Andrei, Thanks for the extra commands.

Re: Who's locking down the code?

2014-10-27 Thread Marty
On 10/27/2014 10:14 AM, Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis wrote: Στις 25-10-2014 20:30, goli...@riseup.net έγ�αψε: On 2014-10-25 12:14, Laurent Bigonville wrote: golinux wrote: Would appreciate comments on this observation: Look at the source code (while you're at it, note who are the

free driver xserver-xorg-video-radeon

2014-10-27 Thread John Foster
free driver xserver-xorg-video-radeon anyone know if this driver supports the cross-fire functions available in the asus mother board that manages this type of card. -- JOhn Foster -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: setup the PMU to generate an interrupt on x number of LLC misses

2014-10-27 Thread Devrin Talen
Emanuel Berg embe8...@student.uu.se writes: Devrin Talen dc...@cornell.edu writes: To block on accesses to a file until it actually has data for you try reading up on the `select` call: % man 2 select That would be great because that is exactly what I need. However I didn't get it

Re: Need help setting up printing in Jessie

2014-10-27 Thread Brian Nelson
Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net writes: I'm running Jessie on an HP Pentium host that's a several years old. Desktop software is Xfce4 and CUPS from a Debian repository, as is all software on the box. Printing works for the LibreOffice suite, but not for Emacs23-lucid, or for plain

Lets make `eudev + uselessd` Debian packages?

2014-10-27 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
Hey guys, I would like to evaluate both `eudev` (or any other *udev), plus `uselessd`, on Debian sid/testing. Lets do it?! I' m planning to achieve, at least, CGroups Process with `uselessd` (no init scripts). If things goes well, I think that `uselessd + new udev` might be a good path to

Re: Bootable USB stick voor verschillende computers en eth0

2014-10-27 Thread Diederik de Haas
On Sunday 26 October 2014 15:06:34 Frans van Berckel wrote: Als ik bij het starten /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules eerst weer even schoon zou kunnen maken, is het probleem opgelost. Maar wat is een slimme plaats en hoe zou jij dat doen? Verschillende workarounds kan je hier vinden: