Re: computador compatível com software livre. onde comprar?

2015-04-12 Thread Fred Maranhão
Em 12 de abril de 2015 16:17, Geowany Galdino geowanygald...@gmail.com escreveu: Boa tarde, pessoal! Eu comprei dois notebooks que já vieram com Mandriva. Excelente custo x benefício por não pagar pela venda casada (aquele SO proprietário) e não tive problemas para rodar o Debian. quais?

Re: computador compatível com software livre. onde comprar?

2015-04-12 Thread Fred Maranhão
Em 12 de abril de 2015 15:23, Linux - Junior Polegato li...@juniorpolegato.com.br escreveu: Olá! A Dell vende com Ubuntu, mas não tem na página, eu acho, tem que ver o modelo, ligar e falar que quer sem Windows pois vai pedir reembolso deste por ser venda casada e você não vai usar, então te

Re: computador compatível com software livre. onde comprar?

2015-04-12 Thread Daniel Lenharo
Fred, Eu utilizo um Dell Inspirion 14R. Somente a segunda placa de video(nvidia) e o Wirelless(Realtek) não funcionam somente com o Main do Debian. Pedi uma placa wireless da Atheros que funciona com driver livre. Ai terei uma máquina que só utilizo drivers livres (não faço questão da segunda

Re: debian 8

2015-04-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/04/2015, David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote: Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): As I have previously stated, elsewhere, I have not been able to get a screensaver and screenlock, to properly run, on Debian 7; the only thing that I have found, so far, is the trojan horse

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-12 Thread Alexis
bri...@aracnet.com writes: the most inconvenient thing about not using gnome is not having a way to handle USS mass storage devices. Perhaps pmount or autofs might be of use ? Alexis. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-12 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Hi all. According to documentations, gnome-core package is considered to be the very minimal gnome installation in Debian. But in my personal experience it is not so. Just after installing Debian, I installed gnome-core just to have the minimal

Re: computador compatível com software livre. onde comprar?

2015-04-12 Thread Tiago Rocha
On 12-04-2015 19:33, Fred Maranhão wrote: pois é. e eu não quero um computador que simplesmente funcione. eu quero um que funcione totalmente com software livre. sem drivers proprietários. coisa bem radical, na linha richard stallman mesmo. mas não sei se vou conseguir Muito massa... A

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 10/04/2015, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 09 April 2015 10:22:23 Bret Busby wrote: Does Debian 7 work with external monitors? Yes. Though I have found that the external monitor needs to be there, and on, before I boot up, in order for it to be seen. (Acer Aspire

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 10/04/2015, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 10 April 2015 05:38:27 Bret Busby wrote: On my Debian 6 desktop computer, from the menu's, is System - Preferences - Monitors which has the option Detect monitors. This is a matter of desktop environment choice, not distro

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 10/04/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/04/2015, Gian Uberto Lauri sa...@eng.it wrote: Bret Busby writes: 00.01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices (AMD nee ATI Device 9852 Type xrandr. You should have one entry for each possible connector. #

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-12 Thread briand
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 18:55:54 -0700 Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Of course, if you really want TOTAL control of your GUI, a window manager is the way to go. That's what I did. Installed Openbox. The same WM that LXDE uses. A little

Re: debian 8

2015-04-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/04/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 13/04/2015, David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote: snip And lastly, just out of interest, I don't recall your saying whether you have tried installing and running D8 yet. Apart from not having GNOME Classic, I note that Debian

Re: computador compatível com software livre. onde comprar?

2015-04-12 Thread Alessandro Bandeira Duarte
Nesse mesmo hardware, tenho debian 8 instalado, só com main habilitado e linux-libre # # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Jessie_ - Official Snapshot i386 NETINST Binary-1 20141115-10:06]/ jessie main # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Jessie_ - Official Snapshot i386 NETINST

Re: debian 8

2015-04-12 Thread David Wright
Me again, sorry. My question about the hardware failure was more out of curiosity than anything else, because it's unusual for software problems to break hardware (though quite possible). On to software... Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): So, I have found xfce, on Debian 7, to be too

Re: computador compatível com software livre. onde comprar?

2015-04-12 Thread Fred Maranhão
neste mesmo hardware qual? Em 12 de abril de 2015 20:13, Alessandro Bandeira Duarte dedekin...@alessandroduarte.com.br escreveu: Nesse mesmo hardware, tenho debian 8 instalado, só com main habilitado e linux-libre # # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Jessie_ - Official Snapshot i386

Re: Jessie

2015-04-12 Thread Yannick VOYEAUD
Le 13/04/2015 00:08, jber...@free.fr a écrit : On ne peut plus mettre des icônes dans la barre du haut comme dans l'ancien Gnome, mais c'est une autre logique que je trouve pas mal à l'usage. Bonsoir, Ben non je veux mes applications préférées en haut de l'écran comme avec Gnome2 Tu peux

Re: computador compatível com software livre. onde comprar?

2015-04-12 Thread Diego Rabatone
Cara, não tenho certeza, mas os Thinkpads são bem free-software friendly. mas não tenho 100% de certeza se vai funcionar sem os non-free, ai precisa ver o modelo e o que vem nele mesmo Tenho um thinkpad com tela touch que funcionou muito bem, não tive nem dor de cabeça pra fazer

Re: apt stuck at Reading database

2015-04-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 11:50:40AM -0500, David Wright wrote: In that situation, my first course of action would be to hide anything but the essential sources.list contents of, basically, something like # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 _Wheezy_ - Official i386 NETINST Binary-1

Re: debian 8

2015-04-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/04/2015, David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote: Me again, sorry. My question about the hardware failure was more out of curiosity than anything else, because it's unusual for software problems to break hardware (though quite possible). On to software... Quoting Bret Busby

Re: computador compatível com software livre. onde comprar?

2015-04-12 Thread Alessandro Bandeira Duarte
Não deve ter chegado meu primeiro email Uso Parabola. Funciona bem nesse hardware (nenhum driver proprietário. Kernel linux-libre: Linux logica 3.19.3-gnu-3 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Apr 9 17:51:06 UYT 2015 i686 GNU/Linux) 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor DRAM

Re: Book questions

2015-04-12 Thread David Wright
Quoting Iain M Conochie (i...@thargoid.co.uk): On 12/04/15 17:34, David Wright wrote: Quoting Iain M Conochie (i...@thargoid.co.uk): snip IMHO, the issues with perl and python is that you will have to understand Object Orientated Programming (OOP) to get the most out of them, especially for

Re: debian 8

2015-04-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/04/2015, David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote: snip And lastly, just out of interest, I don't recall your saying whether you have tried installing and running D8 yet. Apart from not having GNOME Classic, I note that Debian 8, as with Debian 7, appears to be missing iceape. I do

Re: LibreOffice et touches mortes

2015-04-12 Thread Sylvain L. Sauvage
Le dimanche 12 avril 2015, 22:54:50 Patrick Carabin a écrit : Bonsoir la liste, ’soir, depuis quelques jours, LibreOffice ne réagit pas aux «touches mortes».[…] Tiens, on n’a pas déjà eu une question là-dessus récemment ? Ben si :

Re: Jessie

2015-04-12 Thread jbernon
On ne peut plus mettre des icônes dans la barre du haut comme dans l'ancien Gnome, mais c'est une autre logique que je trouve pas mal à l'usage. Tu peux épingler dans la barre gauche les icônes de tes applis favorites. Tu peux afficher une grille de toutes les applis ou de celles que tu

Re: computador compatível com software livre. onde comprar?

2015-04-12 Thread Fred Maranhão
Em 12 de abril de 2015 14:53, Rodrigo Cunha rodrigo.root...@gmail.com escreveu: Isso é relativo, você deverá ficar atento ao chipset de vídeo e ao chipset de áudio. Basicamente são os mais problemáticos, eu recomendo utilizar uma placa de vídeo e áudio para um melhor desempenho. De uma olhada

Re: Book questions

2015-04-12 Thread Iain M Conochie
On 12/04/15 17:34, David Wright wrote: Quoting Iain M Conochie (i...@thargoid.co.uk): snip IMHO, the issues with perl and python is that you will have to understand Object Orientated Programming (OOP) to get the most out of them, especially for GUI development. This was one of the reasons I

Re: Book questions

2015-04-12 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, Glenn English wrote: My Pentium laptop gets the job done, eventually, but the more modern Xeon box downstairs is much easier to live with... A Xeon home machine? Please tell us more about it. Details too. g (I am thinking in terms of the same thing, sort of, i.e.

Re: Book questions

2015-04-12 Thread Petter Adsen
On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 16:29:58 +0100 Iain M Conochie i...@thargoid.co.uk wrote: Not to mention security as well - there is even a possible integer overflow in one of the examples! To be fair, I am not too sure how much of the security implications of C were known in 1988. I want to thank

Re: Book questions

2015-04-12 Thread Petter Adsen
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 15:51:24 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/04/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: Now that you mention security, that leads me to another question - are there any good books on writing secure programs? I would guess that would be a good thing to

Re: Re: Having Trouble installing Updates

2015-04-12 Thread Frank Fricke
Thanx! Added your recommended lines to sources.list, called 'apt update' and everything worked fine except that evolution won't start after the update. Well I'll sort that out. ftp.de has always been allright for Wheezy but somehow didn't seem to be the best choice for Jessie. Cheeree-o

Re: Book questions

2015-04-12 Thread Bret Busby
On 12/04/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: snip Now that you mention security, that leads me to another question - are there any good books on writing secure programs? I would guess that would be a good thing to think about from the start, as to learn good practices? I believe

Re: Book questions

2015-04-12 Thread Iain M Conochie
On 12/04/15 09:33, Petter Adsen wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 15:51:24 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/04/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: Now that you mention security, that leads me to another question - are there any good books on writing secure programs? I would

Re: Debian 8 release

2015-04-12 Thread Per Andersson
2015-04-08 22:53 GMT+02:00 ro...@steneteg.org: Hej Det är hittils 8 som svarat på formuläret (såvida ingen fuskat och svarat flera gånger). Som det ser ut nu så är det lika mellan Göteborg och Varberg. Jag bor ju i Göteborg så är ju inte helt opartisk i frågan men Göteborg är ju större så

Ibus/Anthy - not able to change input method

2015-04-12 Thread Francesco Ariis
Since a couple of days I have a problem with ibus (and anthy): I am not able to switch input methods; if I press the shortcut keys nothing happens, even though in the Preferences panel of Ibus Anthy-Japanese is present. I killed the daemon and reinvoked it with `ibus-daemon -v` to check what was

Re: [OT] Re: Hola amigos

2015-04-12 Thread Manolo Díaz
El domingo, 12 abr 2015, a las 07:23 UTC+2 horas, alexlikerock-Gmail escribió: Lo que pides no lo puede hacer ni Google así que te han puesto alto el listón, vamos, que lo tienes difícil :-) eso es falso camaleon, en yahoo si se puede hacer eso ¿Dices que dado un correo cualquiera emitido

Re: Installing Debian Jessie on an ACER Aspire V13 V3-371-337L

2015-04-12 Thread David Wright
Quoting Jean-Marc (jean-m...@6jf.be): Two words to give the status of the Debian Jessie installation on my brand new Acer Aspire v13 v3. Everything works like a charm (webcam, mic, trackpad, wifi using non-free firmware, network). That's great to hear. But please do tell us which way you

Re: [OT] grub: error: cant't find command linux

2015-04-12 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 11 Apr 2015 19:55:10 +0200, José Miguel (sio2) escribió: El Sat, 11 de Apr de 2015, a las 01:24:23PM +, Camaleón dijo: De hecho, cuando hay varios sistemas operativos en un mismo disco duro prefiero seguir uno de estos dos esquemas para el cargador de arranque: [...] Vaya

Re: Book questions

2015-04-12 Thread David Wright
Quoting Iain M Conochie (i...@thargoid.co.uk): On 12/04/15 09:33, Petter Adsen wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 15:51:24 +0800 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/04/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: Another thing - I have been thinking about also learning Python, for instance for

Re: apt stuck at Reading database

2015-04-12 Thread David Wright
[I'm hoping this isn't a duplicate post, but my first attempt was rejected by bendel.debian.org as forged.] Quoting Luis Finotti (luis.fino...@gmail.com): I've been trying to fix this problem, but have not found a solution yet. (I've also asked at the aptosid list without success.) Before I

Re: Esto esun bug del servidor DHCP, ¿no?

2015-04-12 Thread sio2
El Sun, 12 de Apr de 2015, a las 03:41:14PM +, Camaleón dijo: Lo que me escama es el mensaje, dice que no le puede asignar una IP determinada (192.168.255.105) no que no sea posible asignarle una cualquiera :-? Es normal por cómo hice la prueba: usando dos veces el mismo cliente, pero

Re: L'écran tactile sous Linux

2015-04-12 Thread André
On Saturday 11 April 2015 19:41:35 Daniel Huhardeaux wrote: Le 11/04/2015 18:52, André a écrit : J'imagine que le fonctionnement du tactile dépend du bureau choisi ? Non, il doit être reconnu comme périphérique de pointage comme une souris ou une tablette Wacom C'est pas la faute à l'écran

Re: Book questions

2015-04-12 Thread David Christensen
On 04/11/2015 11:43 PM, Petter Adsen wrote: I want to thank everyone for their answers in this thread, you have all been very helpful. YW. On 04/11/2015 11:43 PM, Petter Adsen wrote: Now that you mention security, that leads me to another question - are there any good books on writing

Re: computador compatível com software livre. onde comprar?

2015-04-12 Thread Rodrigo Cunha
Isso é relativo, você deverá ficar atento ao chipset de vídeo e ao chipset de áudio. Basicamente são os mais problemáticos, eu recomendo utilizar uma placa de vídeo e áudio para um melhor desempenho. De uma olhada aqui, temvarios sound cards compativeis:

Re: [OT] IOPS via SNMP en Sistemas privativos

2015-04-12 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 11 Apr 2015 14:33:48 -0500, Martin Edmundo Barriga Orozco escribió: Hola, Tengo necesidad de monitorear via snmp los IOPS de servidores windows donde se esta corriendo una solucion de respaldos, sin embargo, el snmp no me esta regresando nada de informacion relacionada a IOPS a mi

Re: Esto esun bug del servidor DHCP, ¿no?

2015-04-12 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 11 Apr 2015 22:26:56 +0200, José Miguel (sio2) escribió: Un saludo a la lista: Tengo una configuración de prueba muy sencilla en el servidor ISC de jessie: (...) O sea que hay una clase de máquinas que como máximo recibirán una ip. Con esto he tomado un cliente y le he hecho que

Problemas con la instalación (era: ¿Cuál imagen descargar para AMD64?)

2015-04-12 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 11 Apr 2015 23:18:48 -0300, Sergio Bessopeanetto escribió: Creo un hilo nuevo para no mezclar los temas. (...) La cosa es que tras varios intentos no pude instalar Debian Jessie. Se apaga por calentamiento crítico. No hay caso. Le puse hasta un ventilador de los grandes al lado para

computador compatível com software livre. onde comprar?

2015-04-12 Thread Fred Maranhão
caros, onde eu compro um laptop (i7, 8G RAM, 1T de HD) compatível com software livre numa loja de internet (americanas, extra, walmart, etc) aqui no brasil? estou procurando algum computador que seja listado como A-Platinum pelo h-node.org nestas lojas e não estou encontrando. Fred -- To

Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-12 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Hi all. According to documentations, gnome-core package is considered to be the very minimal gnome installation in Debian. But in my personal experience it is not so. Just after installing Debian, I installed gnome-core just to have the minimal gnome installation. Then I noticed that totem,

Re: computador compatível com software livre. onde comprar?

2015-04-12 Thread Geowany Galdino
Boa tarde, pessoal! Eu comprei dois notebooks que já vieram com Mandriva. Excelente custo x benefício por não pagar pela venda casada (aquele SO proprietário) e não tive problemas para rodar o Debian. Abraços, Em 12 de abril de 2015 14h06min57s GMT-05:00, P. J. pjotam...@gmail.com escreveu: O

Jessie

2015-04-12 Thread Yannick VOYEAUD
Bonsoir, J'ai fait une MAJ de Wheezy vers Jessie en changeant le nom de la distri dans les dépôts. Au passage merci à Jean de l'ALDIL pour cette idée. Premier constat en utilisant Gnome je perd certains réglages de mon bureau. les barres sises en haut et en bas ont disparues. Donc pas génial.

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-12 Thread Joe
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 18:19:35 + Rodolfo Medina rodolfo.med...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. According to documentations, gnome-core package is considered to be the very minimal gnome installation in Debian. But in my personal experience it is not so. Just after installing Debian, I

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-12 Thread Seeker
On 4/12/2015 11:19 AM, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Hi all. According to documentations, gnome-core package is considered to be the very minimal gnome installation in Debian. But in my personal experience it is not so. Just after installing Debian, I installed gnome-core just to have the minimal

Re: computador compatível com software livre. onde comprar?

2015-04-12 Thread P. J.
O ideal como alguns comentaram, é saber qual hardware que vem... saber qual placa wireless... ou placa de vídeo... geralmente aonde se encontram os maiores problemas... ver tb com relação ao touchpad ou alguma funcionalidade como biometria se vier... a maoria dos problemas em hardwares novos

Re: Book questions

2015-04-12 Thread Glenn English
On Apr 12, 2015, at 10:35 AM, David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote: There now are a number of university-level lectures and/or courses available online for free. For example, SICP 1 e.:

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-12 Thread David Wright
[I'm hoping this isn't a duplicate post, but my first attempt was rejected by bendel.debian.org as forged.] Quoting Rodolfo Medina (rodolfo.med...@gmail.com): According to documentations, gnome-core package is considered to be the very minimal gnome installation in Debian. But in my personal

Re: computador compatível com software livre. onde comprar?

2015-04-12 Thread Tiago Rocha
Grande Fred Maranhão, Acho muito difícil você encontrar algo que alinhe performance e respeito ao usuário no Brasil. Mas pode ser melhor comprar fora mesmo, ainda mais se você pensar em valores além do dinheiro;) www.thinkpenguin.com Abs! On 12-04-2015 13:49, Fred Maranhão wrote:

Re: Esto esun bug del servidor DHCP, ¿no?

2015-04-12 Thread sio2
El Sun, 12 de Apr de 2015, a las 01:49:35PM -0500, Frank Harbey Sanabria Florez dijo: El server se cuelga?, Se muere. El proceso deja de existir. verificaste que la MAC que duplicaste sea una MAC Original (Establecida por la IEEE)?, la configuracion de Seguridad ante suplantaciones del

LibreOffice et touches mortes

2015-04-12 Thread Patrick Carabin
Bonsoir la liste, depuis quelques jours, LibreOffice ne réagit pas aux «touches mortes». Les autres programmes ( konsole, Firefox,... ) n' ont aucun problème de ce genre. Je peux afficher les accents: - soit par les touches uniques ( é, è, ù, ... ) - soit par un copier-coller à partir d'

Re: computador compatível com software livre. onde comprar?

2015-04-12 Thread Linux - Junior Polegato
Olá! A Dell vende com Ubuntu, mas não tem na página, eu acho, tem que ver o modelo, ligar e falar que quer sem Windows pois vai pedir reembolso deste por ser venda casada e você não vai usar, então te descontam o valor do Windows OEM, que varia de 50 a 300 dependendo o modelo e valor. São todos

Re: [OT] grub: error: cant't find command linux

2015-04-12 Thread sio2
El Sun, 12 de Apr de 2015, a las 03:52:45PM +, Camaleón dijo: En cualquier caso, ¿dónde instalas GRUB, en el MBR o en la partición / boot/grub? En /boot/grub se instalan los módulos, la configuración menu.cfg y demás ficheros de grub. El sector de arranque de esa partición no tiene nada de

RE: Esto esun bug del servidor DHCP, ¿no?

2015-04-12 Thread Frank Harbey Sanabria Florez
El server se cuelga?, verificaste que la MAC que duplicaste sea una MAC Original (Establecida por la IEEE)?, la configuracion de Seguridad ante suplantaciones del DHCP esta habilitada? Como tienes la configuracion en el dhcpd.conf y en el defaults?, ese error creo que es mas por una mala

Re: Re: Debian Jessie, gnome-panel no menu.

2015-04-12 Thread nutrinfnon
Thank you. I understood as follows: The applets disappears in gnome3 (no alt-right_mouse_button menu). Gnome3 uses extensions instead of applets. Extensions can be installed trought pacakge or browser (enabling plugins) There are similar extensions to the old applets. The Jessie package

Re: Problemas con la instalación (era: ¿Cuál imagen descargar para AMD64?)

2015-04-12 Thread Sergio Bessopeanetto
El 12/04/15 a las 13:08, Camaleón escribió: El Sat, 11 Apr 2015 23:18:48 -0300, Sergio Bessopeanetto escribió: Creo un hilo nuevo para no mezclar los temas. Buena idea. Esto ya es otra cosa. (...) La cosa es que tras varios intentos no pude instalar Debian Jessie. Se apaga por

Re: Is gnome-core *really* the gnome minimal install?

2015-04-12 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/12/2015 02:19 PM, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Hi all. According to documentations, gnome-core package is considered to be the very minimal gnome installation in Debian. But in my personal experience it is not so. Just after installing Debian, I installed gnome-core just to have the minimal

Re: debian 8

2015-04-12 Thread David Wright
Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): As I have previously stated, elsewhere, I have not been able to get a screensaver and screenlock, to properly run, on Debian 7; the only thing that I have found, so far, is the trojan horse that is part of the xfce interface, and, on a previous

Re: Jessie

2015-04-12 Thread haricoph...@aranha.fr
Le Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:16:30 +0200, Yannick VOYEAUD yann...@voyeaud.org a écrit : Si pour le reste je peux faire avec là ce fond noir me dérange énormément vous ne pouvez savoir. Comment remédier à ce très gros problème? Fond noir... je suppose donc que c'est Gnome. Tu installe un thème, ça

Re: VLANs won't persist

2015-04-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 11 April 2015 04:50:12 M7 wrote: i can manually bring it up using vconfig add eth0 4 and have access. Upon reboot, ifconfig only shows me lo interface. Any help would be appreciated! Have you got NetworkManager running? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: computador compatível com software livre. onde comprar?

2015-04-12 Thread Fred Maranhão
Em 12 de abril de 2015 16:24, Tiago Rocha tiago.ro...@openmailbox.org escreveu: Grande Fred Maranhão, Acho muito difícil você encontrar algo que alinhe performance e respeito ao usuário no Brasil. pois é. e eu não quero um computador que simplesmente funcione. eu quero um que funcione