Re: i386 executables on amd64?

2017-08-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 19 August 2017 22:10:11 Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > On 2017-08-19 18:01 -0700 cono...@rahul.net (John Conover) wrote: > >Astonishingly, most of the Wheezy i386 executables run on the Jessie > >amd64 machine, (which came with the project.) > > > >Is this to be expected? > > x86-64

Re: Debian live installer problems

2017-08-19 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 08/19/2017 08:49 PM, Arjun Krishnan wrote: Hi I've been trying to get a debian installer working on my usb stick. The stick has an EFI partition I dont know where this bug should be filed, since I cannot file it against a package. So I thought i'd ask here. I'm happy to file a bug and

Re: i386 executables on amd64?

2017-08-19 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
On 2017-08-19 18:01 -0700 cono...@rahul.net (John Conover) wrote: >Astonishingly, most of the Wheezy i386 executables run on the Jessie >amd64 machine, (which came with the project.) > >Is this to be expected? x86-64 CPU can run IA32 programs, even when using a OS (having explicit support for

Debian live installer problems

2017-08-19 Thread Arjun Krishnan
Hi I've been trying to get a debian installer working on my usb stick. The stick has an EFI partition and grub installed. The debian live cd iso is stored under a folder called `/boot/iso`. The grub.cfg contains entries of the form set imgdevpath='/dev/disk/by-uuid/' menuentry

Re: What tool can I use to make efficient incremental backups?

2017-08-19 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 11:47:34 -0500 Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > Hello. > > Currently I use rsync to make the backups of my personal data, including > some manually selected important files of system configuration. I keep > old backups to be more safe from the scenario

Re: [Offtopic] GVFS como root

2017-08-19 Thread Esteban Monge
Bueno si deseas seguir con del root ejecuta manualmente cada comando a ver que errores te da. Systemd es una maravilla y permite.ejecutar programas al inició.del.sistema.como.usuario. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/User Como.siempre el wiki de Arch es una maravilla... On August

Re: [Offtopic] GVFS como root

2017-08-19 Thread Edwin De La Cruz
El día 19 de agosto de 2017, 19:04, Esteban Monge escribió: > El 2017-08-19 09:42, AlexLikeRock escribió: >>> Saludos cordiales a todos. >>> Tengo una consulta q no esta relacionada directamente com debian y es >>> acerca de gvfs-mount. >>> >>> Nevesito montar un sitio

Re: i386 executables on amd64?

2017-08-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 19 August 2017 21:01:03 John Conover wrote: > I inherited a project to install a pile of C code, compiled and > running on Debian Wheezy i386 machine, to a Debian jessie amd64 > machine. > > Astonishingly, most of the Wheezy i386 executables run on the Jessie > amd64 machine, (which

i386 executables on amd64?

2017-08-19 Thread John Conover
I inherited a project to install a pile of C code, compiled and running on Debian Wheezy i386 machine, to a Debian jessie amd64 machine. Astonishingly, most of the Wheezy i386 executables run on the Jessie amd64 machine, (which came with the project.) Is this to be expected? Thanks,

Re: No ifconfig

2017-08-19 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2017-08-19, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 19 August 2017 04:15:42 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > >> Glenn English: >> > I've written many scripts over the years, using ifconfig and others, >> > and having everything broken now is a major PITA. >> > >> > I very

Re: No ifconfig

2017-08-19 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2017-08-19, Brian wrote: (...) > network-mangler? This demonstrates a disdain for the work put into > making networking comfortable on Debian. It also probably infers a > lack of any deep understanding of how the software works. s/infers/implies Other than that, +1

Re: [Offtopic] GVFS como root

2017-08-19 Thread Esteban Monge
El 2017-08-19 09:42, AlexLikeRock escribió: >> Saludos cordiales a todos. >> Tengo una consulta q no esta relacionada directamente com debian y es acerca >> de gvfs-mount. >> >> Nevesito montar un sitio ftp y gvfs me va de maravilla cuando lo uso como >> usuario normal, sin embargo cuando lo

Re: Thoughts on Ansible? [was: Thoughts on Anible?]

2017-08-19 Thread RavenLX
On 08/19/2017 03:40 PM, Osamu Aoki wrote: Hi, On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 02:32:45PM -0400, RavenLX wrote: ... I think use of ansible or any similar tool is not prerequisite of "development". It's a configuration management system. It's a nice and interesting tool I am thinking to learn but

Re: Thoughts on Ansible? [was: Thoughts on Anible?]

2017-08-19 Thread deloptes
Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Pythong, -the- language for digital wedgies. haha " digital wedgies"! you don't have to know python to use ansible Actually YAML is more important for ansible regards

Re: Kernels above 4.9 break encrypted disks

2017-08-19 Thread Borden Rhodes
Thank you for your response, Pascal, Thank you, also, for your very clear instructions. It's nice not having to guess the rest of the command I need to use. My kernel hacking abilities are elementary, at best. Here is the output from my system: $ modinfo 4.12.0-1-amd64 xts modinfo: ERROR: Module

X problems in Stretch with AMD APU?

2017-08-19 Thread Zoltán Herman
And what kind of kernel is installed 4.9 or 4.11? Check the kernel log to see if the firmware has been loaded. >> I have a home theatre PC with an AMD A6-3500 APU. Bit of an oldie but still plays everything fine. The drivers supplied by the Jessie repositories (including fglrx for hardware

Re: [Offtopic] GVFS como root

2017-08-19 Thread Felix Perez
El 19 de agosto de 2017, 19:18, Edwin De La Cruz escribió: > El día 19 de agosto de 2017, 15:04, Esteban Monge > escribió: >> Tienes algún link con la configuración que has hecho es de "a contado" muy >> difícil >> >> On August 19, 2017 11:58:10 AM

Re: cannot connect to WPA2 SSIDs after installation

2017-08-19 Thread bw
On Sat, 19 Aug 2017, jratl...@bluemarble.net wrote: On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 17:43:34 -0400, wrote: I'm trying to put Debian 9 (stretch) on the original Microsoft Surface You really should read the installation guide, there is a section about new interface naming.

Re: cannot connect to WPA2 SSIDs after installation

2017-08-19 Thread jratliff
On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 17:43:34 -0400, wrote: > I'm trying to put Debian 9 (stretch) on the original Microsoft Surface > Pro. I installed it, but I cannot connect to my wireless SSID after the > installation is finished. > > When the installer tries to connect, it works

Re: [Offtopic] GVFS como root

2017-08-19 Thread Edwin De La Cruz
El día 19 de agosto de 2017, 15:04, Esteban Monge escribió: > Tienes algún link con la configuración que has hecho es de "a contado" muy > difícil > > On August 19, 2017 11:58:10 AM CST, Edwin De La Cruz > wrote: >> >> Mis proyectos de software

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2017 #884

2017-08-19 Thread Greg Marks
The principal reason I switched back, many years ago, to vim in a terminal was that you could NOT paste text by highlighting with the mouse. I had been using some text editor on a Mac, and there was a keyboard shortcut--I never figured out what it was--that I would accidentally hit that had the

Re: Thoughts on Ansible? [was: Thoughts on Anible?]

2017-08-19 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 02:32:45PM -0400, RavenLX wrote: > am learning Pythong. Pythong, -the- language for digital wedgies.

Re: Fonts for widgets in Cinnamon

2017-08-19 Thread Dominic Knight
On Sat, 2017-08-19 at 21:04 +0200, Jeff wrote: > I have been using Cinnamon (from testing) for a couple of years with > no > problem until a couple of days ago, when suddenly the font size for > most > widgets increased. This is annoying, as certain lists in things like > Thunderbird no longer fit

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-19 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
On 2017-08-19 20:47 +0200 Gilles Mocellin wrote: >Unless you really don't wnt libvirt, you should look at virt-manager. Thanks for the suggestion. I will take a look into libvirt in the unlikely case that my current approach becomes insufficient in the future. So

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-19 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 11:02:58AM -0500, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > On 2017-08-19 17:02 +1000 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > >Which TUI/GUI do you use? > > I do not know what is TUI. Text User Interface / command line. > I don't use any GUI. I write Bash scripts > that

cannot connect to WPA2 SSIDs after installation

2017-08-19 Thread jratliff
I'm trying to put Debian 9 (stretch) on the original Microsoft Surface Pro. I installed it, but I cannot connect to my wireless SSID after the installation is finished. When the installer tries to connect, it works fine. But after I boot into the finished install, it just keeps asking for my SSID

Re: No ifconfig

2017-08-19 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 10:23:37AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 19 August 2017 09:30:10 Nicolas George wrote: > > > Le duodi 2 fructidor, an CCXXV, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > > So when do we get that ported and into debian, replacing this > > > gibberish generator called ip, so we can

Re: no /etc/inittab

2017-08-19 Thread Joe
On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 14:59:46 -0500 David Wright wrote: > On Sat 19 Aug 2017 at 10:53:01 (+0100), Jonathan de Boyne Pollard > wrote: > > Joe: [ in > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/08/msg00700.html ] > > >Stretch? Systemd was default init for Jessie, the

X problems in Stretch with AMD APU?

2017-08-19 Thread Alle Meije Wink
I have a home theatre PC with an AMD A6-3500 APU. Bit of an oldie but still plays everything fine. The drivers supplied by the Jessie repositories (including fglrx for hardware acceleration) worked fine. But then I upgraded to Stretch and suddenly started without X. The debian supplied drivers

Re: [Offtopic] GVFS como root

2017-08-19 Thread Esteban Monge
Tienes algún link con la configuración que has hecho es de "a contado" muy difícil On August 19, 2017 11:58:10 AM CST, Edwin De La Cruz wrote: >Mis proyectos de software libre en: >Github - edwinspire > > >El día 19 de agosto de 2017, 10:42, AlexLikeRock

Re: no /etc/inittab

2017-08-19 Thread David Wright
On Sat 19 Aug 2017 at 10:53:01 (+0100), Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > Joe: [ in https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/08/msg00700.html ] > > >Stretch? Systemd was default init for Jessie, the previous stable. > >Worse, an upgrade of Wheezy to Jessie would actually change the > >init

Re: No ifconfig

2017-08-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 19 August 2017 15:38:14 Brian wrote: > On Sat 19 Aug 2017 at 15:26:02 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 19 August 2017 14:57:46 Brian wrote: > > > /etc/hosts files advocated? What is wrong with using avahi-demon? > > > This is 2017. > > > > For starters, it seems not to want

Re: Thoughts on Ansible? [was: Thoughts on Anible?]

2017-08-19 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 02:32:45PM -0400, RavenLX wrote: > ... > > > I think use of ansible or any similar tool is not prerequisite of > > "development". It's a configuration management system. It's a nice > > and interesting tool I am thinking to learn but I don't use it yet. > > The

Re: No ifconfig

2017-08-19 Thread Brian
On Sat 19 Aug 2017 at 15:26:02 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 19 August 2017 14:57:46 Brian wrote: > > > /etc/hosts files advocated? What is wrong with using avahi-demon? > > This is 2017. > > For starters, it seems not to want to use 192.168 addresses very well. I > run it, but no

Re: Problema con ultima actualización-testing

2017-08-19 Thread Miguel Angel
Gracias por tu ayuda AlexLikeRock, te paso los datos: Filesystem tamaño usados dip uso montado udev 1.5g 0 1.5g 0% /dev tmpfs302M4.6m 297M 2% /run /dev/sdb147g 26g 20g 57% / tmpfs 1.5g 01.5g 0%

Re: No ifconfig

2017-08-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 19 August 2017 14:57:46 Brian wrote: > On Sat 19 Aug 2017 at 14:38:57 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 19 August 2017 10:49:57 Nicolas George wrote: > > > Le duodi 2 fructidor, an CCXXV, Fungi4All a écrit : > > > > >> Unless you are willing to pay more than n s a sys tem d

Re: obsolete wiki (no /etc/inittab)

2017-08-19 Thread Brian
On Sat 19 Aug 2017 at 15:05:51 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: [Lots and lots of brutal snipping] > === > > > * https://manpages.debian.org/wheezy/systemd-sysv/runlevel.8.en.html > > Which is even older with a 1997 origin date. > > I won't waste the

Re: obsolete wiki (no /etc/inittab)

2017-08-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 19 August 2017 13:35:09 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > Jonathan de Boyne Pollard: > > Furthermore: In this *particular* regard, the developer-provided > > doco actually *is* clear. The upstart manual page for inittab has > > been warning that the file is obsolete for over ten

Fonts for widgets in Cinnamon

2017-08-19 Thread Jeff
I have been using Cinnamon (from testing) for a couple of years with no problem until a couple of days ago, when suddenly the font size for most widgets increased. This is annoying, as certain lists in things like Thunderbird no longer fit on the page. I started playing with the fonts preferences

Re: No ifconfig

2017-08-19 Thread Brian
On Sat 19 Aug 2017 at 14:38:57 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 19 August 2017 10:49:57 Nicolas George wrote: > > > Le duodi 2 fructidor, an CCXXV, Fungi4All a écrit : > > > >> Unless you are willing to pay more than n s a sys tem d red hat > > > >> and they can become "your" lackeys. >

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-19 Thread Gilles Mocellin
Le samedi 19 août 2017, 17:02:23 CEST Zenaan Harkness a écrit : > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 08:23:13PM -0500, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > Which TUI/GUI do you use? Unless you really don't wnt libvirt, you should look at virt-manager.

Re: No ifconfig

2017-08-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 19 August 2017 10:49:57 Nicolas George wrote: > Le duodi 2 fructidor, an CCXXV, Fungi4All a écrit : > > >> Unless you are willing to pay more than n s a sys tem d red hat > > >> and they can become "your" lackeys. > > > > > > Suggesting that the Debian developers who chose to use

Re: Thoughts on Ansible? [was: Thoughts on Anible?]

2017-08-19 Thread RavenLX
On 08/19/2017 11:16 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just fixing the subject, for the benefit of search engines. - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlmYVkcACgkQBcgs9XrR2kb7fACfcOsMgvXnd34Ch56vm0dFrHMk

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-19 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
On 2017-08-19 17:02 +1000 Zenaan Harkness wrote: >Which TUI/GUI do you use? I do not know what is TUI. I don't use any GUI. I write Bash scripts that call QEMU with the required options and I use “qemu-img” from the command line when needed. >I've been struggling to create

Re: [Offtopic] GVFS como root

2017-08-19 Thread Edwin De La Cruz
Mis proyectos de software libre en: Github - edwinspire El día 19 de agosto de 2017, 10:42, AlexLikeRock escribió: >> Saludos cordiales a todos. >> Tengo una consulta q no esta relacionada directamente com debian y es >> acerca de gvfs-mount. >> >> Nevesito montar un

Re: obsolete wiki (no /etc/inittab)

2017-08-19 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Jonathan de Boyne Pollard: Furthermore: In this *particular* regard, the developer-provided doco actually *is* clear. The upstart manual page for inittab has been warning that the file is obsolete for over ten years, and that manual page is copied all over the WWW making it fairly easy to

Re: No ifconfig

2017-08-19 Thread Brian
On Sat 19 Aug 2017 at 10:23:37 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 19 August 2017 09:30:10 Nicolas George wrote: > > > Le duodi 2 fructidor, an CCXXV, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > > So when do we get that ported and into debian, replacing this > > > gibberish generator called ip, so we can

Re: What tool can I use to make efficient incremental backups?

2017-08-19 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
On 2017-08-18 23:53 +0100 Liam O'Toole wrote: >I use duplicity for exactly this scenario. See the wiki page[1] to get >started. > >1: https://wiki.debian.org/Duplicity Judging from a quick glance at that project's homepage in GNU Savannah, this seem indeed to be the

Re: [Offtopic] GVFS como root

2017-08-19 Thread AlexLikeRock
Saludos cordiales a todos. Tengo una consulta q no esta relacionada directamente com debian y es acerca de gvfs-mount. Nevesito montar un sitio ftp y gvfs me va de maravilla cuando lo uso como usuario normal, sin embargo cuando lo hago con usuario root no me permite montarlo. Aqui hay algo

Re: Problema con ultima actualización-testing

2017-08-19 Thread AlexLikeRock
presiona CTRL + ALT + F1 eso te llevara a TTY1 , accede como ROOT; usuario: root contraseña: usa el comando : # df -h y te dira cunto espacio libre le queda, lo mas rovable es que no le quede espacio ejemplo; $ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on

Thoughts on Ansible? [was: Thoughts on Anible?]

2017-08-19 Thread tomas
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Re: Thoughts on Anible?

2017-08-19 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 07:01:03PM -0400, RavenLX wrote: > Please forgive my goofy questions. I am not really that well versed in CM > (Configuration Management) and this post is really going to show it. > > Because this will more than likely be tltr (too long to read), I'll try to > make

Re: No ifconfig

2017-08-19 Thread Nicolas George
Le duodi 2 fructidor, an CCXXV, Fungi4All a écrit : > >> Unless you are willing to pay more than n s a sys tem d red hat and they > >> can > >> become "your" lackeys. > > Suggesting that the Debian developers who chose to use systemd did so > > because they are corrupt and were payed by RedHat

Re: No ifconfig

2017-08-19 Thread Nicolas George
Le duodi 2 fructidor, an CCXXV, Fungi4All a écrit : > Unless you are willing to pay more than n s a sys tem d red hat and they can > become "your" lackeys. Suggesting that the Debian developers who chose to use systemd did so because they are corrupt and were payed by RedHat instead is libelous

Re: No ifconfig

2017-08-19 Thread Fungi4All
> From: geo...@nsup.org > To: Fungi4All > debian-user@lists.debian.org , Gene Heskett > > > Le duodi 2 fructidor, an CCXXV, Fungi4All a écrit : >> Unless you are willing to pay more than n s a sys tem d red hat and

Re: No ifconfig

2017-08-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 19 August 2017 09:30:10 Nicolas George wrote: > Le duodi 2 fructidor, an CCXXV, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > So when do we get that ported and into debian, replacing this > > gibberish generator called ip, so we can just get back to doing the > > things we want to do with a computer? >

Re: No ifconfig

2017-08-19 Thread Fungi4All
> From: fungil...@protonmail.com > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Gene Heskett > >> From: geo...@nsup.org >> To: Gene Heskett >> debian-user@lists.debian.org >> >> Le duodi 2 fructidor, an CCXXV, Gene Heskett a écrit

Re: No ifconfig

2017-08-19 Thread Fungi4All
> From: geo...@nsup.org > To: Gene Heskett > debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Le duodi 2 fructidor, an CCXXV, Gene Heskett a écrit : >> So when do we get that ported and into debian, replacing this gibberish >> generator call ip, so we can just get back to doing the things

Re: obsolete wiki (no /etc/inittab)

2017-08-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 19 August 2017 05:32:25 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > Felix Miata: > > What's needed is incentive for code creators to simultaneously > > document, with ample examples that man pages usually omit, even if > > it's only in formal, non-wikified docs that wikis can point to. That

Re: No ifconfig

2017-08-19 Thread Nicolas George
Le duodi 2 fructidor, an CCXXV, Gene Heskett a écrit : > So when do we get that ported and into debian, replacing this gibberish > generator call ip, so we can just get back to doing the things we want > to do with a computer? Never. Debian developers are not your lackeys. -- Nicolas George

Re: No ifconfig

2017-08-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 19 August 2017 04:15:42 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > Glenn English: > > I've written many scripts over the years, using ifconfig and others, > > and having everything broken now is a major PITA. > > > > I very much agree that sysV init and those old commands were a mess, > >

Re: libindi versions

2017-08-19 Thread bernard . schoenacker
- Mail original - > De: "alain" > À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org > Envoyé: Samedi 19 Août 2017 14:07:30 > Objet: libindi versions > > Dear Debian Team, > > is there a particular reason why the official Debian distributions do > not include latest Indi versions

Re: obsolete wiki (no /etc/inittab)

2017-08-19 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Sat, 19 Aug 2017, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: The systemd people have not explicitly documented inittab, as the upstart people did, although they have explicitly documented run levels as "obsolete" in the systemd manual page for runlevel. This, too, has been copied around the WWW,

Re: Stretch vim doesnt cut and paste

2017-08-19 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi there On 19/08/17 14:10, Brian wrote: "set mouse=" in ~/.vimrc. In /etc/vim/vimrc it doesn't work. In ~/.vimrc it does. Thanks! Regards, Rob

libindi versions

2017-08-19 Thread alain
Dear Debian Team, is there a particular reason why the official Debian distributions do not include latest Indi versions and the related 3rd party indi drivers? Thanks

Re: Stretch vim doesnt cut and paste

2017-08-19 Thread Nicolas George
Le duodi 2 fructidor, an CCXXV, Rob van der Putten a écrit : > After a upgrade from jessie to stretch I can't use the mouse to cut and > paste in vim. Try "set mouse=" (empty option). Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: Stretch vim doesnt cut and paste

2017-08-19 Thread Brian
On Sat 19 Aug 2017 at 13:56:15 +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote: > After a upgrade from jessie to stretch I can't use the mouse to cut and > paste in vim. > nvi works, nano works. > As quick fix I removed xxd and installed the jessie version of vim, > vim-common and vim-runtime. This does work.

Re: Stretch vim doesnt cut and paste

2017-08-19 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 19 Aug 2017 13:56:15 +0200 Rob van der Putten wrote: > Hi there > > > After a upgrade from jessie to stretch I can't use the mouse to cut and > paste in vim. > nvi works, nano works. > As quick fix I removed xxd and installed the jessie version of vim, >

Re: No ifconfig

2017-08-19 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 19 Aug 2017, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh: > > [...] and the only reason we had to keep it around by default [...] was > > broken by GNU upstream when it took ifconfig out of the bit-rot pit hell > > and started maintaining it again. > > net-tools is not

Stretch vim doesnt cut and paste

2017-08-19 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi there After a upgrade from jessie to stretch I can't use the mouse to cut and paste in vim. nvi works, nano works. As quick fix I removed xxd and installed the jessie version of vim, vim-common and vim-runtime. This does work. Regards, Rob

Re: no /etc/inittab

2017-08-19 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Joe: Stretch? Systemd was default init for Jessie, the previous stable. Worse, an upgrade of Wheezy to Jessie would actually change the init system used, thus breaking almost every Debian server in the world. Nicolas George: I must be lucky, none of the servers that I handle broke

Re: obsolete wiki (no /etc/inittab)

2017-08-19 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Felix Miata: What's needed is incentive for code creators to simultaneously document, with ample examples that man pages usually omit, even if it's only in formal, non-wikified docs that wikis can point to. Gene Heskett: It should be an iron-clad rule that a developer submitting his itch

Re: No ifconfig

2017-08-19 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 09:15:42AM +0100, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > Glenn English: > > > I've written many scripts over the years, using ifconfig and others, and > > having everything broken now is a major > > PITA. > > > > I very much agree that sysV init and those old commands were a

[no subject]

2017-08-19 Thread max vidocq
Bonjour Angelique 3. Placée sous le vicable de Notre-Dame, l' église cathédrale d' Amiens est un haut lieu de la dévotion mariale. C' est pourquoi la pohychromie du portail de la Mère Dieu, éclairée la nuit par des lampes à huiles, a fait l' objet de

Re: no /etc/inittab

2017-08-19 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Pierre Frenkiel: I discovered recently, after re-installing my system with the Debian 9.1 kde live dvd, that the /etc/inittab is no more present, although all the documentation I found still mentions it, Have a frequently given answer that tells you otherwise. (-: *

mplayer is waiting for FUTEX_CLOCK_REALTIME

2017-08-19 Thread romph
Hello, I've performed dist-upgrade to stable yesterday. The mplayer needed a lot of time to start. I recorded the strace output and found, that mplayer is waiting for futex with argument: FUTEX_WAIT_BITSET_PRIVATE|FUTEX_CLOCK_REALTIME as you can see below at the last line of trace. Has anybody

Re: No ifconfig

2017-08-19 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Glenn English: I've written many scripts over the years, using ifconfig and others, and having everything broken now is a major PITA. I very much agree that sysV init and those old commands were a mess, especially with the introduction of ipv6. But I'd have more inclined to fix what was

No ifconfig

2017-08-19 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh: [...] and the only reason we had to keep it around by default [...] was broken by GNU upstream when it took ifconfig out of the bit-rot pit hell and started maintaining it again. net-tools is not a GNU Software package. *

Re: W: Failed to fetch [..] The following signatures were invalid: [..]

2017-08-19 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Adam Cecile: Since I upgraded to Stretch I get the following warning when running apt update: W: Failed to fetch http://archive.cloudera.com/cdh5/debian/jessie/amd64/cdh/dists/jessie-cdh5/InRelease The following signatures were invalid:F36A89E33CC1BD0F71079007327574EE02A818DD What the

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Re: Kernels above 4.9 break encrypted disks

2017-08-19 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 19/08/2017 à 08:48, Borden Rhodes a écrit : I'm on the Buster repo. For all kernels released after 4.9, I can't boot into my system, which has all encrypted partitions except for /boot. I think tihs is my problem, as I get the same symptoms: https://gitlab.com/cryptsetup/cryptsetup/issues/319

Kernels above 4.9 break encrypted disks

2017-08-19 Thread Borden Rhodes
I'm on the Buster repo. For all kernels released after 4.9, I can't boot into my system, which has all encrypted partitions except for /boot. I think tihs is my problem, as I get the same symptoms: https://gitlab.com/cryptsetup/cryptsetup/issues/319 I decided to wait until the 4.12 kernel came

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-19 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 08:23:13PM -0500, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > On 2017-08-18 17:56 -0700 Patrick Bartek wrote: > >There's always VMWare or XEN neither of which I have any real experience > >with, just read the manuals. Never cared much for QEMU or kvm, but > >that

Re: Thoughts on Anible?

2017-08-19 Thread deloptes
RavenLX wrote: > Should Ansible be added to my list? Or do devs recommend something else? > > (I am wondering if the "user" mailing list is even the right place to > ask?) It was indeed a long reading. I couldn't understand why you exactly use config automation. In my opinion it is best suited