Re: Cannot switch to Chinese Input Method with fcitx after upgrading to Debian Buster

[慕 冬亮]

On 09/07/2017 02:01 PM, 慕 冬亮 wrote:

Hi all,

Yesterday I upgraded my Debian Stretch to Debian Buster. Something unexpected 
happens. I cannot switch to fcitx-googlepinyin/sunpinyin with fcitx.

In Debian Stretch, if I click "Ctrl+Space", it will change to 
fcitx-googlepinyin. And then I can type Chinese. However, in buster, when I 
click
"Ctrl+Space", there is no other input method shown. Only English could be typed.


I google this problem and find some interesting answers in the archlinux bbs.
Because Debian changes the backend of Gnome Shell from X.org to Wayland, 
Wayland does not directly support fcitx(details in 
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=218409) due to profile problem.

The solution is easy :
Just add the following lines into `/etc/profile`. Don't use `~/.bashrc`. It is 
not working in my system.

GTK_IM_MODULE=fcitx
QT_IM_MODULE=fcitx
XMODIFIERS=@im=fcitx

I run "fcitx-diagnose", but cannot understand the result. Is there anyone who 
encounters the same problem with me? Do you have any solution?





--

My best regards to you.

 No System Is Safe!
 Dongliang Mu

Re: OT: Hurricane

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Sat, Sep 09, 2017 at 11:22:27PM -0500, Doug wrote:
> 
> On 09/09/2017 11:07 PM, arne wrote:
> > > A few bad storms over a few years
> > > doesn't make climate.
> > > 
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > David
> > yes
> > Stay Safe
> > you could study the warming in the Middle Ages
> > you could study the cool times in the Middle Ages in Europe too.
> > key words: Iceland Greenland.
> > Iceland was discovered and given name in the cold period.
> > Greenland in the warm period.
> > Nowadays greenland is covered with ice.
> > Iceland is green,
> > Stay safe.
>
> I hope you don't live near the shore! Global warming at the present
> rate is a function of human interference, and if you don't believe
> that, just keep burning your coal and if you live long enough, you
> will prove it yourself

Plant food generation has increased our survival time from millennia
to billenia.  Plants need plant food.  All life needs warmth.
Greenhouse gives us both, and CO2 levels are no longer critically
low, which is excellent for all life on Earth.  Thankfully, ending
the "industrial revolution" (burning stuff) won't reverse the
situation.  Life is on track for a while yet now...

Re: OT: Hurricane

[Doug]

On 09/09/2017 11:07 PM, arne wrote:

A few bad storms over a few years
doesn't make climate.


Thanks,
David

yes
Stay Safe
you could study the warming in the Middle Ages
you could study the cool times in the Middle Ages in Europe too.
key words: Iceland Greenland.
Iceland was discovered and given name in the cold period.
Greenland in the warm period.
Nowadays greenland is covered with ice.
Iceland is green,
Stay safe.


I hope you don't live near the shore! Global warming at the present rate 
is a function of human interference, and if you don't believe that, just 
keep burning your coal and if you live

long enough, you will prove it yourself

--doug

Re: OT: Hurricane

[arne]

> A few bad storms over a few years
> doesn't make climate.
> 
> > Thanks,
> > David  

yes
Stay Safe
you could study the warming in the Middle Ages
you could study the cool times in the Middle Ages in Europe too.
key words: Iceland Greenland.
Iceland was discovered and given name in the cold period.
Greenland in the warm period.
Nowadays greenland is covered with ice.
Iceland is green,
Stay safe.

Re: Editor survival [Was: Recommended editor for novice programmers?]

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Fri, Sep 08, 2017 at 04:17:50PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 08 Sep 2017 at 03:19:49 (+0100), Nick Boyce wrote:
> > You're absolutely right.  I have sat next to seasoned vi users watching in 
> > awe as their fingers flew entering weird totally non-intuitive commands (to 
> > me) and achieving great edits in next to no time.  Other colleagues lived 
> > inside emacs all day long, using it as a sort of OS with an editor 
> > attached.  I used other editors to achieve the same goals, quite possibly 
> > taking more real time than the vi guys.  Each to their own.
> 
> > Agreed .. or whatever terminal (emulation) you're actually using - in my 
> > case very often a real VT220/320/420, attached to a VMS, then TELNETed to a 
> > Un*x, where the available /etc/termcap|terminfo may or may not have been 
> > well crafted back at the factory.  Sometimes an ICL mainframe VDU connected 
> > via an obscure 3rd-party emulation converter box to a DEC machine.  
> > Latterly it would be some 3rd-party terminal emulator on Windows 3.1/95. I 
> > still say ugh, though it may well not be vi's fault.  The fact is that 
> > miraculously 'joe' seemed to be much more resilient and usable in these 
> > circumstances.  As did emacs .. if you could afford to wait.  I like an 
> > editor to appear within 1 second of me calling it (which rules out most GUI 
> > editors).
> 
> Just to point out there's a connection between these two paragraphs.
> You shouldn't have to wait even a second for emacs to start if you
> "live" in it, ie use the server-start command and keep a running
> instance open. Then, instead of emacs, invoking emacsclient from the
> shell and applications will be virtually instant.

Java has the same "sort of" thing in Nailgun - "insanely fast Java" -
the same concept, but for Java, where the ng client just sends a
message to a running Java instance (running ng server), to make it
easy to launch or do whatever you want in Java - I assume (but don't
know) that Eclipse has something like this built in (just like
Firefox).

Cheers,

Re: Recommended editor for novice programmers?

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Fri, Sep 08, 2017 at 04:13:31PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 08 Sep 2017 at 03:24:11 (+0100), Nick Boyce wrote:
> > On Wed, 06 Sep 2017 16:19:03 +1000
> > Ben Finney  wrote:
> > 
> > > Nick Boyce  writes:
> > > 
> > > > I don't want to provoke any religious war here, and sorry if I offend
> > > > anybody, but:
> > > 
> > > That doesn't alter the fact that you've disparaged programs in terms
> > > that state an absolute problem inherent to the program. This is not
> > > helpful, because it implies that people who choose those programs are
> > > wrong and should be disparaged themselves.
> > 
> > I do disparage software when it seems ungood, but there is no implication 
> > from me that people who use that software are in any way to be disparaged - 
> > there may be many reasons why they're using that software, and my (possibly 
> > mistaken) opinion may even help them realise they have choices they didn't 
> > know about.  We all have to start learning somewhere - and it never ends.
> > 
> > > 
> > > For example:
> > > 
> > > > emacs is ridiculously heavy-weight
> > > 
> > > That's an absolute statement of objective fact. 
> > 
> > I realise I should have scattered IM(H)Os all through my email, so lets 
> > start now: IMO it *is* an objective fact.  emacs is *huge* (please don't 
> > ask me for numbers) and cumbersome and overengineered if what you want is a 
> > lightweight lean fast straightforward text editor (and I usually do).
> 
> No, the ridiculous thing here is the contradiction:
> "IMO it *is* an objective fact",
> and it's immediately followed by a circular argument.
> 
> Now, it's arguable that emacs is large compared with many other
> editors. However, it contains a lot of functionality, and that means
> lots of code. But just how important is the volume of code that's
> available when you're actually editing a file?
> 
> I'm typing on a i386 laptop with 500MB of memory. Editing a 25MB
> file, the memory reported by top is
> emacs 15%
> nano 7.5%
> 
> Meanwhile, I have firefox open on the results of a google search.
> That's currently reading
> firefox-esr 31% + Web Content 28%
> 
> By way of contrast, if I boot up the machine, start X (using the
> fvwm window manager) and bring up the wunderground weather forecast
> on opera (far faster than using firefox), the machine uses all
> 500MB of memory and 300MB of the 1GB swap. As you can imagine,
> it's not quick.
> 
> So, with respect to this laptop, the size of emacs is irrelevant.

Interesting stats.

I've heard a few times that Eclipse is a great editor for programmers
including newbie programmers, and that "it only needs about a Gig of
RAM and you're good to go".

"You know, Java an' all..."

:)

Emacs is positively tiny in comparison, yet also "more advanced" in
various ways - although Eclipse certainly has its "gui" fortes.


> > I remember an operating system whose response to commands was
> > only ever 'OK' or 'ER'  I don't like to tell you what I
> > thought about that, but some people liked it because it didn't
> > waste their time with verbiage.
> 
> OK would be rather verbose for Unix.

:D

That's almost cheeky response, but actually true - run a command and
all you get is "an 8-bit integer result, which you have to interpret
somehow, possibly ok, possibly some error, but depends on the
program" :)

Re: top that shows "Web Content" (was Re: Recommended editor for novice programmers?)

[Nick Boyce]

On Sat, 9 Sep 2017 07:39:58 -0400
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Friday, September 08, 2017 07:59:40 PM David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 08 Sep 2017 at 17:39:39 (-0400), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, September 08, 2017 05:13:31 PM David Wright wrote:
> > > > Meanwhile, I have firefox open on the results of a google search.
> > > > That's currently reading
> > > > firefox-esr 31% + Web Content 28%
> > > 
> > > Hmm, do you have a version of top (or something else) which reports the
> > > use of memory for web content?  I don't see that in top on Wheezy., but
> > > I'd like to get that number.
[snip]
> 
> Son of a gun, this morning I looked at top and now there is a task named "Web 
> Content".  That must have been part of a (recent) "security" update ;-)

AFAIK the 'Web Content' process was introduced by Mozilla when Firefox switched 
to a multi-process model for the browser binary - you may have seen people 
moaning about it: Mozilla calls it 'electrolysis/e10s' and it delivers such 
things as "only one tab will crash, rather than the whole browser".  I noticed 
the new process for the first time within the last month but wasn't sure how 
long it had been there ... I was trying to find out where all my RAM was going, 
and the sight of it made my blood run cold till I found out what it was.  I 
believe the ESR release channel gained the multiprocess feature with the change 
from release 45.x.y to release 52.x.y (Debian tracks the ESR channel), and my 
Wheezy systems received FF52.2.0 on 21st.August.

Nick
-- 
Never FDISK after midnight.

Unsound Sound

[Martin McCormick]

This seems to be a case of not knowing what I don't know. There
is a wheezy system that is routinely updated and sound mostly
works normally with /dev/dsp being a CS4237B built-in sound card
and /dev/dsp1 is a usb-based sound card that works just like it
should.

I did need to add
snd_cs4236 and snd_usb_audio to /etc/modules to insure that the
cs4237B is always /dev/dsp and /dev/dsp1 is always the usb sound
card but here is the issue:

If I call mplayer which wants /dev/dsp to be Card 0, it
usually plays the file but not always. On some types of .wav
files, /dev/dsp refuses to play the file and claims that /dev/dsp
is busy even though lsof doesn't show /dev/dsp as being open.
Other types of .wav file play perfectly.

I recently used text2wav which is part of the festival
speech synthesizer suite and it produced a .wav file called u.wav
which was made of 16-bit littleendian samples that should just
play. The mplayer application complained as follows:

[AO_ALSA] Unable to set samplerate-2: Invalid argument
Failed to initialize audio driver 'alsa'
[AO OSS] audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
Failed to initialize audio driver 'oss'
Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound.

If I used aplay, the message reads:

Playing WAVE 'u.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 16000 Hz, Mono

That same u.wav file played perfectly if I used
/dev/dsp1.

I also get many .wav or .mp3 files to play through
/dev/dsp so the inability to play some wav files is related to
their content or header format.

I actually posted a message last week in which I thought
the problem had to do with a program I was writing whose output
was a .wav stream but now I realize that it was the problem I
have been mentioning in this post.

Any ideas as to why all files play through Card 1
but some .wav files refuse to play through Card 0? It's usually
all or nothing.

Thank you for all relevant suggestions.

Martin McCormick

Re: rsnapshot

[Jochen Spieker]

Pol Hallen:
> 
> well, does "delta" keeps my backup for 10 years?

For your configuration: yes, I think so. I am still using rsnapshot's
old days/weeks/months method, so I do not have own experience with the
alpa/beta/gamma/delta thing.

J.
-- 
I am on the payroll of a company to whom I owe my undying gratitude.
[Agree]   [Disagree]
 


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Re: hibernate uses a wrong UUID

[Cindy-Sue Causey]

On 9/9/17, Pierre Frenkiel  wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Sep 2017, Michael Biebl wrote:
>
>> Outdated initramfs?
>> After modifying /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume you need to run
>> update-initramfs
>
>I ran it again (update-initramfs -u), and I got the message
>generating .
>but the problem is still there


This is my third complete rewrite. There's a CLOSED Bug #861057 (2017.04.26):

TITLE: initramfs-tools: no longer supports RESUME=LABEL|UUID syntax

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=861057

That was found because I'm FINALLY trying to address my own hibernate
(suspend?) recovery issues while all of this is almost making sense
today.

Originally, I was writing to ask what's in Pierre's
/etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume file.

My purpose for asking about Pierre's *was* that maybe there's
something too much (like a stray, *invisible* character) or maybe
something too little (like a missing closing character) that's
interfering with success.

BUT... now there's that closed bug #861057 which sounds possibly
similar to Pierre's experience. That pretty much shoves my idea out
the back door. :)

Pierre's bug, he shared that extra bit about how it's checking for a
wrong UUID. It's possible I'm not cognitively grasping that the same
is mentioned in Bug #861057, but right now I'm not seeing that
referenced there. Maybe that was what was going on under the hood on
that closed bug, too..

Back on that "maybe something too little" character angle... Would
single quotes or double quotes around the UUID value help in this
case?

Everything else I wrote has been deleted while I work on my own issue.
In the meantime, I found these while trying to fix mine:

https://wiki.debian.org/Hibernation
https://wiki.debian.org/Suspend
https://wiki.debian.org/SystemdSuspendSedation

I figured:

* Those look like they could use a refresh from a knowledgeable person...
* I'm surely not the only one who keeps mixing these terms up.. :)

Cindy :)
-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with duct tape *

Re: ftp-upload avec ftps ?

[Pierre L.]

Très interesting ;)

A étudier !


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Re: OT: Hurricane

[Felix Miata]

David Niklas composed on 2017-09-09 12:06 (UTC-0400):

> There is only one thing worse than a *CAT 5* hurricane headed towards Florida.
> Another one behind it.

> And there is only one thing worse than 2 powerful hurricanes headed
> towards Florida.
> If you're still there.

> All of the above is happening to me.
> Those of the prayer inclined nature might try a little of it.

> I'll be offline for awhile.

I'm in a V-Zone NW of Tampa, where Irma's center is predicted to be around
daybreak on Monday. I too will likely be offline for an extended period before
too much longer.
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

Re: OT: Hurricane

[Patrick Bartek]

On Sat, 9 Sep 2017 12:06:23 -0400 David Niklas  wrote:

> There is only one thing worse than a *CAT 5* hurricane headed towards
> Florida.

Irma's a CAT 3 storm currently (north of Cuba), and if it tracks
through Central Florida as predicted, it will loose strength rapidly --
hurricanes need to feed off heat and moisture from warm oceans to
maintain themselves -- probably only being a Tropical Storm by the
time it gets to northern Florida. If it tracks into the Gulf of Mexico
instead, different story.  If it veers east and follows the Gulf
Stream, few worries for the Florida Panhandle

> Another one behind it.

Looks like Jose is going to meander and loose strength east of the
Bahamss.  No worries for FL.

> And there is only one thing worse than 2 powerful hurricanes headed
> towards Florida.
> If you're still there.

Been through a few hurricanes and tropical storms myself, but the
most frightening are Severe Thunderstorms with Funnels Clouds
(tornados) sighted.  I've seen it rain so hard that visibility was
about 20 feet!  Beyond that distance, it was just a grey mass.

> All of the above is happening to me.
> Those of the prayer inclined nature might try a little of it.
> 
> I'll be offline for awhile.
> 
> BTW: This is the first time since 2004 or 2005 that Florida's
> panhandle has been hit, so no, it's not time to have a global warming
> "I told you so party" on the mailing list.

FYI (also for all the global warming, we caused it and it's going
to destroy the planet Chicken Littles out there): the Earth has been
warming steadily since the end of the last glaciation began some 27,000
years ago.  It's not something that just occurred during former
President Obama's administration. Humanity didn't cause it. We
contribute to it, yes, but so does every bovine who farts in the
pasture, and every volcano eruption, and every plant, and every insect,
and every forest or plains fire, and every swamp, and every creature in
the sea, and the sea itself, etc. But the driving force of climate is
the Sun. A fractional energy change one way or the other has major
effects of earthly climate more than all the other contributory factors
combined. Climate is never static. It's ALWAYS in flux, always
changing. But that change occurs so slowly that no one lives long
enough to "see" it.  A few bad storms over a few years doesn't make
climate.

> Thanks,
> David

You're welcome.  Stay safe.

B

Undergraduate work in Math and Physics, post graduate Meteorology,
former US Air Force meteorologist.

Weird graphical glitches bug with gdm3 and gnome on stretch

[Ramiro Simões Lopes]

Hi everyone!

I'm having this weird bug on Stretch with gdm3 and Gnome. Fluxbox and i3
work perfectly. It's difficult to describe it so I uploaded a couple videos
to show you:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/lgTsHKLZhBa3SaF83
https://photos.app.goo.gl/m2Dj4XYP79q0fSTJ2

I googled it but I haven't found anything like it.

It started not immediately after upgrading to stretch, but in some upgrade
after that. I tried reverting the last updates but that didn't solve the
problem.
Maybe some configuration changed? Maybe a hardware issue? But that only
manifests itself with gnome (weird)?

And things have been running so smoothly for years that I've gotten a
little rusty in fixing things... I don't know where to begin.

I want to file a but report but I don't know if this bug belongs to gnome,
to xorg, to the radeon driver...
I'm using current Stretch versions of all packages.

Hardware:
1:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
[AMD/ATI] Turks XT [Radeon HD 6670/7670] [1002:6758]

Driver:
xserver-xorg-video-radeon 1:7.8.0-1+b1
firmware-amd-graphics 20161130-3

Kernel:
linux-image-4.9.0-3-amd64 4.9.30-2+deb9u3


I appreciate any help/suggestions you might have.

Thank you,
Ramiro

Re: hibernate uses a wrong UUID

[Pierre Frenkiel]

On Sat, 9 Sep 2017, Michael Biebl wrote:


Outdated initramfs?
After modifying /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume you need to run
update-initramfs


  I ran it again (update-initramfs -u), and I got the message
  generating .
  but the problem is still there

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel

Re: musescore

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi,
Thanks for all the information, both on and off list, about this program.
Karen

Re: Referendum segons Debian i Apache2

[Narcis Garcia]

Algunes eines em diuen que l'Apache corre sobre un nucli Linux 2.6 o
superior, la qual cosa no és gaire concreta pel què fa a la distribució GNU.




__
I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses aren't
masked enough at this mail public archive. Public archive administrator
should fix this against automated addresses collectors.
El 09/09/17 a les 14:08, Pedro ha escrit:
> 2017-09-09 10:34 GMT+02:00 Narcis Garcia :
>> Es nota la influència del què es diu per llistes com aquesta; en poca
>> estona la incidència fou rectificada.
> 
> l'efectiva enginyeria social
> 
>> Aprofito per comentar que el DOGC (molt més important) té el HTTPS mal
>> configurat (dogc.gencat.cat) doncs el certificat x509 és en realitat pel
>> lloc web a248.e.akamai.net de l'empresa Akamai Technologies, Inc.
> 
> DOGC sembla que és apache, però... és debian? :)
> 
>  $ curl -I http://dogc.gencat.cat/ca/
> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
> Server: Apache
> Last-Modified: Sat, 09 Sep 2017 12:06:18 GMT
> X-Frame-Options: SAMEORIGIN
> Access-Control-Allow-Origin: *
> Surrogate-Control: no-store
> Content-Type: text/html;charset=UTF-8
> X-WA-Info: [V2.S10206.A18718.P75851.N48551.RN0.U0].[OT/html.OG/pages]
> Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2017 12:06:47 GMT
> Connection: keep-alive
> 

Re: hibernate uses a wrong UUID

[Pierre Frenkiel]

On Sat, 9 Sep 2017, Michael Biebl wrote:


Outdated initramfs?
After modifying /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume you need to run
update-initramfs



  Thank you for the advice.
  I did it once, but may-be it failed. I'll run it again, to be sure.

Re: hibernate uses a wrong UUID

[Michael Biebl]

Am 09.09.2017 um 18:50 schrieb Pierre Frenkiel:
> I have this in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume
>     RESUME=UUID=42b1dc3e-6206-4bd5-9eb4-76e97f94cd65
> which is actually the UUID of the swap partition.
> 
> and after pm-hibernate and reboot, I find in syslog:
>    PM: Checking hibernation image partition
> /dev/disk/by-uuid/2fff8fc5-d304-418f-8d5c-c0ae12b23ac2
> and then, of course, "image not found" (no partition has this UUID)
> 
> Can anybody explain that?

Outdated initramfs?
After modifying /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume you need to run
update-initramfs


-- 
Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the
universe are pointed away from Earth?



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hibernate uses a wrong UUID

[Pierre Frenkiel]

I have this in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume
RESUME=UUID=42b1dc3e-6206-4bd5-9eb4-76e97f94cd65
which is actually the UUID of the swap partition.

and after pm-hibernate and reboot, I find in syslog:
   PM: Checking hibernation image partition 
/dev/disk/by-uuid/2fff8fc5-d304-418f-8d5c-c0ae12b23ac2
and then, of course, "image not found" (no partition has this UUID)

Can anybody explain that?

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel

Re: leaving the hibernate state

[Pierre Frenkiel]

On Tue, 5 Sep 2017, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:


On Sat, 2 Sep 2017, Andr? N B wrote:


Have you tried any of these tests?

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git/plain/Documentation/power/basic-pm-debugging.txt?h=v4.12.10



  I tried the first one: it crashed my laptop, and after reboot, I got 
"recovering journal"
  I thing that the problem acrually comes from a too small swap partition. 
I'll increase it, and post the result.


   I increased the swap partition to twice the ram size, but hibernate still 
doesn't work
   (cf my next post: "hibernate uses a wrong UUID"


best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel

OT: Hurricane

[David Niklas]

There is only one thing worse than a *CAT 5* hurricane headed towards
Florida.
Another one behind it.

And there is only one thing worse than 2 powerful hurricanes headed
towards Florida.
If you're still there.

All of the above is happening to me.
Those of the prayer inclined nature might try a little of it.

I'll be offline for awhile.

BTW: This is the first time since 2004 or 2005 that Florida's panhandle
has been hit, so no, it's not time to have a global warming "I told you
so party" on the mailing list.

Thanks,
David

Re: Recommended editor for novice programmers?

[Curt]

On 2017-09-09, Joel Roth  wrote:
> I'm dropping in late to say that running 'vimtutor' in a 
> terminal is an easy way to interactively get to know how vim
> works.
>

I use vim on a very rudimentary level, and on that very rudimentary
level it is easy. 'i' start writing; esc ":w" save that puppy.

I have a rudimentary (yes, I'm quite rudimentary) LaTex template that I
employ because I'm required to submit things in either rtf, doc, or pdf (I
use latex2rtf when I'm done).

Remember the typewriter? I'm sure you do. I recall Norman Mailer saying
once that he would hesitate to revise his work (written in long-hand,
then given to his secretary to be typed on the period's mechanical or
electromechanical device) more than a couple of times due to the tedium
it meant for the poor woman. I suppose now with more modern technology he
could keep working past that generously self-imposed limit.

But it's never finished, a creation--that's why the fundamentalists are
wrong. The world and its principles were never written in stone; they
are a work-in-progress. Halleluiah.

However we mortals must stop somewhere or we'd never complete anything. 

David Foster Wallace once remarked that he always wrote in long-hand
first (prior to word processing it) because he didn't want to blurt
things out. The pen imposes deliberation.

I'm always delighted to enter this forum and see you people devoting so
much of your energy to the big questions in life (although someone did
say the medium was the message).

-- 
"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana." Groucho

Re: rsnapshot

[Pol Hallen]

hello and thanks for your reply :)

well, does "delta" keeps my backup for 10 years?

thanks


# Daily at 01:00 am
00 01 * * *   root/usr/bin/rsnapshot alpha



# Weekly on every Monday at 03:30 am
30 3  * * 1   root/usr/bin/rsnapshot beta



# Monthly on every first day of the month at 03:00 am
0  3  1 * *   root/usr/bin/rsnapshot gamma



# Yearly on January 1st at 02:30
30 2  1 1 *   root/usr/bin/rsnapshot delta



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Pol

Re: Error extraño con el #kdeplasma #linuxysusglitchs

[Felix Perez]

El 9 de septiembre de 2017, 00:23, Miguel Matos
 escribió:
> Hola de nuevo a la lista, hace tiempo que no les escribía luego de ese
> asunto con el kde plasma. Aún sigo acostumbrándome a ello, y en el
> ordenador de la casa iba bien; pero últimamente se ha presentado un
> muy extraño y rarísimo error, en el que cada vez que inicio, me pasa
> esto[1], y tengo que esperar a que todo eso cargue y luego debo cerrar
> sesión. No sé cómo se define eso, por lo que no sé cómo se lo pregunto
> a google. Desconozco si a algún otro debianita le ha pasado. En el
> ordenador del trabajo, que usa ZorinOS, pasa que a veces la pantalla
> como que "escrachea" y la gráfica se distorsiona cuando salen cuadros
> de diálogo (del tipo Abrir con, Guardar como, y alertas de error y
> así)... y eso para mí se hizo común; pero decidí que ya zorin no es lo
> mío, así que busco otras alternativas. Eso sí, el debian lo seguiré
> usando acá en casa.
>
> 1[https://imgur.com/a/WQGaU]
>

Disculpa pero no entiendo cual es el error o que intentas mostrar con
las capturas, si son los programas que se inician con la sesión
sácalos del inicio de sesión automáticos si no es eso, por favor se
más claro al consultar y no agregues datos superfluos o que no están
relacionados (ZorinOs).

Saludos.



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Re: ftp-upload avec ftps ?

[Pascal Hambourg]

Le 07/09/2017 à 22:25, Pierre L. a écrit :


Le 07/09/2017 à 20:47, Pascal Hambourg a écrit :

Le 06/09/2017 à 19:29, Pierre L. a écrit :

Port 21 selon la convention, mais on peut le changer.


On peut, si on cherche les ennuis en environnement firewallé/NATé.


Il suffit de paramétrer le(s) bon(s) port(s) dans ces équipements ;)


A condition que les équipements le supportent, et qu'on ait la main 
dessus. Souvent on n'a la main que d'un côté, client ou serveur.



Puis le serveur proposera une fourchette de port (passif) pour le
transfert de fichiers.


Pas vraiment. Lorsque le client initie un transfert en mode passif, le
serveur lui désigne *un* port dans la plage à sa disposition pour que
le client s'y connecte.


C'est 1 port minimum il me semble ?


Un port par connexion de données.


Si 10 fichiers transférés en même temps vers le serveur, ca nous fera 10
ports utilisés selon mes souvenirs...


Oui, demandés ou indiqués par autant de commandes PORT/EPRT/PASV/EPSV du 
client, une avant chaque commande de transfert ou de listage.



Lorsque le client initie un transfert en mode actif, c'est lui qui
désigne un port dans sa plage de ports actifs pour que le serveur s'y
connnecte.


Il faut aussi configurer le mode passif ou actif sur les passerelles
du client,
et du serveur...


Uniquement du coté serveur.


Non, sur tout les intervenant de la chaîne comme indiqué. Essaie de
faire du FTP avec des firewalls ou des NAT non coopératifs entre le
client et le serveur, tu m'en diras des nouvelles.


Comme pour chaque service ! SSH comme FTP comme HTTP ou etc...! ;)


Non, car ces services n'utilisent que des connexions sortantes vers un 
seul et unique port fixe pour les commandes et les données, 
contrairement à FTP qui utilise des connexions entrantes ou sortantes 
vers des ports dynamiques.



Donc dans notre cas, aucun avantage dans notre combat FTPS vs SFTP ;)


Oh si, large avantage à SFTP qui n'utilise que des connexions sortantes 
vers un port fixe.



Mais pour le client lambda derrière sa petite box qui va bien à la
maison et qui veut aller titiller un serveur FTP (ou autres),
généralement il n'a absolument rien à paramétrer dans ses équipements
persos, en dehors des données de connexion au serveur distant ;)


S'il ne fait que du FTP(S) client en mode passif, il y a des chances que 
ça marche parce que les firewalls des box sont permissifs en sortie. Par 
contre s'il fait du FTP sur un port non standard ou du FTPS en mode 
actif, ça ne marchera pas sans configuration spécifique pour déclarer le 
port FTP non standard ou la plage de ports actifs configurés dans le 
logiciel client FTP à accepter en entrée et rediriger vers le poste.

Re: Referendum segons Debian i Apache2

[Pedro]

2017-09-09 10:34 GMT+02:00 Narcis Garcia :
> Es nota la influència del què es diu per llistes com aquesta; en poca
> estona la incidència fou rectificada.

l'efectiva enginyeria social

> Aprofito per comentar que el DOGC (molt més important) té el HTTPS mal
> configurat (dogc.gencat.cat) doncs el certificat x509 és en realitat pel
> lloc web a248.e.akamai.net de l'empresa Akamai Technologies, Inc.

DOGC sembla que és apache, però... és debian? :)

 $ curl -I http://dogc.gencat.cat/ca/
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: Apache
Last-Modified: Sat, 09 Sep 2017 12:06:18 GMT
X-Frame-Options: SAMEORIGIN
Access-Control-Allow-Origin: *
Surrogate-Control: no-store
Content-Type: text/html;charset=UTF-8
X-WA-Info: [V2.S10206.A18718.P75851.N48551.RN0.U0].[OT/html.OG/pages]
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2017 12:06:47 GMT
Connection: keep-alive

Re: top that shows "Web Content" (was Re: Recommended editor for novice programmers?)

[rhkramer]

On Friday, September 08, 2017 07:59:40 PM David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 08 Sep 2017 at 17:39:39 (-0400), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, September 08, 2017 05:13:31 PM David Wright wrote:
> > > Meanwhile, I have firefox open on the results of a google search.
> > > That's currently reading
> > > firefox-esr 31% + Web Content 28%
> > 
> > Hmm, do you have a version of top (or something else) which reports the
> > use of memory for web content?  I don't see that in top on Wheezy., but
> > I'd like to get that number.
> 
> I don't have any browsers on my wheezy systems, but is it possible
> that wheezy calls it plugin-container? That is what ps calls it in
> jessie, but I used top's value and terminology.
> 
> Another name to check out might be xul-runner which is where
> plugin-container used to live.

David,

Thanks  very much for your reply!

Son of a gun, this morning I looked at top and now there is a task named "Web 
Content".  That must have been part of a (recent) "security" update ;-)

Re: Referendum segons Debian i Apache2

[Narcis Garcia]

Es nota la influència del què es diu per llistes com aquesta; en poca
estona la incidència fou rectificada.
Aprofito per comentar que el DOGC (molt més important) té el HTTPS mal
configurat (dogc.gencat.cat) doncs el certificat x509 és en realitat pel
lloc web a248.e.akamai.net de l'empresa Akamai Technologies, Inc.




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El 08/09/17 a les 17:32, Eduard Selma ha escrit:
> El 08/09/17 a les 13:55, Narcis Garcia ha escrit:
> 
>> Ara m'adono que per HTTPS hi ha un web que parla de referèndum, i per
>> HTTP hi ha el de Debian (sense tanta garantia/es).
> 
> - A mi (amb Firefox) el http em redirecciona a https (evidentment, amb
> més garanties). Però si la gent demana Debian, doncs jo també (tot i que
> estic usant Stretch sense problemes des de juliol).
> 

Re: Workable installation of VTK and GWT

[didier gaumet]

Disclaimer: I have never used or built Elmer

>From the Elmer wiki at
http://www.elmerfem.org/elmerwiki/index.php?title=Compilation_of_Elmer_on_Linux_using_Cmake
:

[...]
"Furthermore, ElmerGUI will be compiled - this expects the "devel"
versions of OpenCascade, QWT and a binary (should the post-processing
link work) of ParaView to be installed. Clearly, the user also has to
take care that the GNU C (gcc), Fortran (gfortran) and C++ (g++)
alongside a MPI library (e.g. OpenMPI) is installed on the system."
[...]