Re: The new normal of logging

On 27/10/17 17:52, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 26 October 2017 21:21:37 Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: On 27/10/17 13:02, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 26 October 2017 15:22:35 Nicholas Geovanis wrote: " And there's also systemd, that is slowly phagocytosing the UNIX part of Linux" I'm

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 07:49:29AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: I must argue against it, until as you say, resolvconf is given a well documented way to be told to leave a "static" system alone. Until such time, I'll make /etc/resolv.conf a real file, and mark it and /etc/network/interfaces

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Fri 27 Oct 2017 at 18:05:23 (-0400), Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 11:46:53PM +0200, Mart van de Wege wrote: > > Roberto C. Sánchez writes: > > > > > Think about that for a minute. The mere action of an interface (any > > > interface on the system)

Re: Pollution des logs par no|invalid EDID sur un écran

Le 27/10/2017 à 16:32, Belaïd a écrit : Bonjour,  Peut être un début de réponse ici: https://debian-facile.org/viewtopic.php?id=18626 Le vendredi 27 octobre 2017, Migrec a écrit : Bonjour,

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 11:46:53PM +0200, Mart van de Wege wrote: > Roberto C. Sánchez writes: > > > Think about that for a minute. The mere action of an interface (any > > interface on the system) obtaining a DHCP lease is sufficient to have > > dhclient think it needs to

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Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

Roberto C. Sánchez writes: > Think about that for a minute. The mere action of an interface (any > interface on the system) obtaining a DHCP lease is sufficient to have > dhclient think it needs to obliterate my manual networking configuration > with settings from the DHCP

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

Darac Marjal writes: > > Who's saying it must be installed? Maybe I've missed something, but I > think the consensus in this discussion was that if you want your > resolv.conf to be unmanaged/static/administrator-controlled, then > don't have resolvconf installed. If

Re: estamated number of Linux users?

On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 20:37:22 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: > Hi, > > Phil Dobbin wrote: > > Kingsley Amis on his loss of libido when he turned fifty > > Not a problem any more in our times of digital wonders. > In case of loss, simply re-install >

Re: estamated number of Linux users?

Done that, Phil, but can't see any change on my boot-up speed, nor in my response time. What else can you suggest? Feeling down, Saki On 27 October 2017 at 21:03, Phil Dobbin wrote: > On 27/10/17 19:37, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Phil Dobbin wrote: > >>

Re: estamated number of Linux users?

On 27/10/17 19:37, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Phil Dobbin wrote: >> Kingsley Amis on his loss of libido when he turned fifty > > Not a problem any more in our times of digital wonders. > In case of loss, simply re-install > https://packages.debian.org/stretch/libido3-0.1-0 :-) Cheers,

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 07:47:49PM +, Curt wrote: > My response is two venerable hot-shots from this very forum ventured > into that rather short wiki within the last 24 hours, made edits, > advertised them here, but couldn't be bothered to fix the fucking thing > and as a lesser mortal

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On 2017-10-27, Brian wrote: >> > >> >> Weird wiki. From "my issues" (sic) down it switches from third to >> first-person narration by what I suspect is a Germanophone and all hell >> breaks loose (grammatically speaking). > > It's a wiki. That tells you something. ("someone

Re: estamated number of Linux users?

On 2017-10-27 16:41, John Hasler wrote: Ric writes: I wouldn't demean the Linux Counter effort calling it "Utterly useless". It's a simple statement of fact. The Linux Counter data is utterly useless for the purpose of estimating the number of Linux users. :%s/Linux/active Linux/g

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Fri 27 Oct 2017 at 11:38:56 (-0700), Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > Interesting. I took a look at mine, and found > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Aug 8 2016 /etc/resolv.conf -> > ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf > > so the thing is now entirely dynamic. I don't know what setting it > immutable would do

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Fri 27 Oct 2017 at 08:35:05 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 01:18:58PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > > Who's saying it must be installed? > > A few people in this thread, though I think they're saying "should" > rather than "must". > > > Maybe I've missed something, but

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Fri 27 Oct 2017 at 18:27:09 +, Curt wrote: > On 2017-10-27, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 11:03:38AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > >> I finally got around to updating the wiki page today. Here is the link > >> for those who wish to have it as

Re: estamated number of Linux users?

Ric writes: > I wouldn't demean the Linux Counter effort calling it "Utterly > useless". It's a simple statement of fact. The Linux Counter data is utterly useless for the purpose of estimating the number of Linux users. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

Interesting. I took a look at mine, and found lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Aug 8 2016 /etc/resolv.conf -> ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf so the thing is now entirely dynamic. I don't know what setting it immutable would do or mean. I'm running xubuntu 16.04.3 LTS On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 5:35

Re: estamated number of Linux users?

Hi, Phil Dobbin wrote: > Kingsley Amis on his loss of libido when he turned fifty Not a problem any more in our times of digital wonders. In case of loss, simply re-install https://packages.debian.org/stretch/libido3-0.1-0 Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On 2017-10-27, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 11:03:38AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: >> I finally got around to updating the wiki page today. Here is the link >> for those who wish to have it as a reference or perhaps would like to >> contribute to

Re: estamated number of Linux users?

On 27/10/17 17:27, Ric Moore wrote: > On 10/26/2017 11:21 PM, John Hasler wrote: >> Celejar writes: >>> https://www.linuxcounter.net/ >>> I don't know how meaningful its data are. >> >> Utterly useless. > > I wouldn't demean the Linux Counter effort calling it "Utterly useless". > Those folks

salt on 9.1/2

Just curious if anyone is running the current git-based salt 2017.7.2 (10/9/17) on Debian 9.2 or 9.1, and if you have any views on that subject. And if anyone is using the NAPALM plugin there that would be very interesting. Thanks..Nick

Re: Seguridad - Montaje memorias USB

Colega: El vie, 27-10-2017 a las 17:12 +0200, R Calleja escribió: > Buenas tardes, > > utilizo debian 8.9 y hace tiempo que intento, sin exito, que las > memorias usb no se monten automaticamente en el sistema. > > > Alguien puede ayudarme,, > > > he intentado cambiar los valores de >

Re: Pollution des logs par no|invalid EDID sur un écran

Bonjour, Peut être un début de réponse ici: https://debian-facile.org/viewtopic.php?id=18626 Le vendredi 27 octobre 2017, Migrec a écrit : > Bonjour, > > Mes logs sont "spammés" par cette ligne qui revient toutes les 10 secondes > environ. Et c'est embêtant car elle

Re: estamated number of Linux users?

On 2017-10-27 14:27, Ric Moore wrote: On 10/26/2017 11:21 PM, John Hasler wrote: Celejar writes: https://www.linuxcounter.net/ I don't know how meaningful its data are. Utterly useless. I wouldn't demean the Linux Counter effort calling it "Utterly useless". Those folks have maintained the

Re: Serial Ports and Perl

Andy Smith writes: > Hi Martin, > > I have been using it successfully for a long time, but all I do is > read whole lines from the serial device like: > > my $dev = '/dev/ttyUSB0'; > my $port = Device::SerialPort->new($dev); > > $port->baudrate(57600); >

Re: estamated number of Linux users?

On 10/26/2017 11:21 PM, John Hasler wrote: Celejar writes: https://www.linuxcounter.net/ I don't know how meaningful its data are. Utterly useless. I wouldn't demean the Linux Counter effort calling it "Utterly useless". Those folks have maintained the site since 1999 or so. It is what it

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 11:03:38AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > I finally got around to updating the wiki page today. Here is the link > for those who wish to have it as a reference or perhaps would like to > contribute to further improving it: > > https://wiki.debian.org/resolv.conf I've

Re: Seguridad - Montaje memorias USB

El 27/10/17 a las 12:12, R Calleja escribió: Buenas tardes, utilizo debian 8.9 y hace tiempo que intento, sin exito, que las memorias usb no se monten automaticamente en el sistema. Alguien puede ayudarme,, he intentado cambiar los valores de /sys/bus/usb/devices/usbX/authorized_default

Upgrade imprimante

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Re: Seguridad - Montaje memorias USB

El día 27 de octubre de 2017, 17:12, R Calleja escribió: > Buenas tardes, > utilizo debian 8.9 y hace tiempo que intento, sin exito, que las memorias > usb no se monten automaticamente en el sistema. > > Alguien puede ayudarme,, > > he intentado cambiar los valores de >

Seguridad - Montaje memorias USB

Buenas tardes, utilizo debian 8.9 y hace tiempo que intento, sin exito, que las memorias usb no se monten automaticamente en el sistema. Alguien puede ayudarme,, he intentado cambiar los valores de /sys/bus/usb/devices/usbX/authorized_default Deauthorize a device: $ echo 0 >

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 02:26:35PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > In any event, thanks to all who helped and who provided hints on things > to investigate/try. Later today I will update the poorly written wiki > article [0] to explain that immutable is a troubleshooting approach and > I

Re: Pollution des logs par no|invalid EDID sur un écran

Bonjour, Peut être un début de réponse ici: https://debian-facile.org/viewtopic.php?id=18626 Le vendredi 27 octobre 2017, Migrec a écrit : > Bonjour, > > Mes logs sont "spammés" par cette ligne qui revient toutes les 10 secondes > environ. Et c'est embêtant car elle

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

> Who's saying it must be installed? Maybe I've missed something, but I think > the consensus in this discussion was that if you want your resolv.conf to be > unmanaged/static/administrator-controlled, then don't have resolvconf > installed. This is a ridiculous idea. This thread is about a user

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

>> Granted, it might be nice if resolvconf had an easier way to configure >> a static setup, but as it is now packages that need to access >> resolv.conf should do this through resolvconf if it is available, so >> installing and configuring it *is* the right way to handle this. > I must argue

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 01:18:58PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > > Who's saying it must be installed? Maybe I've missed something, but I think > the consensus in this discussion was that if you want your resolv.conf to be > unmanaged/static/administrator-controlled, then don't have resolvconf >

Re : Pollution des logs par no|invalid EDID sur un écran

Bonjour l'EDID est une information de quelques dizaines ou centaines d'octets fournis par l'écran au PC via une connection I2C. le respect de la norme est souvent assez aléatoire, d'un modèle à l'autre (même au sein d'un seul constructeur). Si le changement de câble ne résout rien ce n'est pas

Re: Importer Apple Mail vers Thunderbird

- Mail original - > De: "Raphaël POITEVIN" > À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org > Envoyé: Vendredi 27 Octobre 2017 15:03:21 > Objet: Importer Apple Mail vers Thunderbird > > Bonjour, > > Debian Jessie, Thunderbird 52.3 > > Existe-t-il une solution

Re: chroot ssh sftp

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Re: Retro update

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Re: Importer Apple Mail vers Thunderbird

Le 27/10/2017 à 15:03, Raphaël POITEVIN a écrit : Bonjour, Debian Jessie, Thunderbird 52.3 Existe-t-il une solution simple pour importer les mails depuis Apple Mail vers Thunderbird ? La difficulté étant que la personne possédant un Bonjour, les mettre sur un serveur Imap. Apple n’est pas

Re: Importer Apple Mail vers Thunderbird

Le 27/10/2017 à 15:03, Raphaël POITEVIN a écrit : Bonjour, Debian Jessie, Thunderbird 52.3 Existe-t-il une solution simple pour importer les mails depuis Apple Mail vers Thunderbird ? La difficulté étant que la personne possédant un Apple n’est pas très averti en informatique et que moi, je ne

Importer Apple Mail vers Thunderbird

Bonjour, Debian Jessie, Thunderbird 52.3 Existe-t-il une solution simple pour importer les mails depuis Apple Mail vers Thunderbird ? La difficulté étant que la personne possédant un Apple n’est pas très averti en informatique et que moi, je ne sais pas manipuler un Mac car je ne maîtrise pas le

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 01:18:58PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > Who's saying it must be installed? A few people in this thread, though I think they're saying "should" rather than "must". > Maybe I've missed something, but I think > the consensus in this discussion was that if you want your

Plain text vs. binary (was Re: The new normal of logging)

On 2017-10-27 at 05:36, Darac Marjal wrote: > A binary format is, really, nothing to be feared, so long as the > format is as well defined as plain text (because, when you look at > it, plain text IS binary, it's just an astoundingly well-agreed > encoding). The binary format underlying plain

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 07:49:29AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 27 October 2017 03:46:27 Mart van de Wege wrote: Roberto C. Sánchez writes: > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:24:32PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: >> Actually, there's no need to duplicate the effort. As I

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Friday 27 October 2017 03:46:27 Mart van de Wege wrote: > Roberto C. Sánchez writes: > > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:24:32PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > >> Actually, there's no need to duplicate the effort. As I understand > >> it, resolvconf is basically an optional

Pollution des logs par no|invalid EDID sur un écran

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Re: Alternative à Nagios

Le 27/10/2017 à 08:33, David Martin a écrit : Bonjour, J'utilise Centreon (Entreprise server avec la totale) au boulot, il existe une version community qui remplira grandement ton besoin. Zabbix, nous utilisons aussi en interne, si ces pistes peuvent t'aider à faire un choix, c'est du solide

Re: estamated number of Linux users?

On Fri 27/Oct/2017 05:21:48 +0200 John Hasler wrote: > Celejar writes: >> https://www.linuxcounter.net/ >> I don't know how meaningful its data are. > > Utterly useless. Er... why was the OP looking for that data? Ale --

Re: The new normal of logging

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 02:22:35PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <[1]j.deboynepollard-newsgro...@ntlworld.com> wrote: Roberto C. Sánchez: Is this the new normal, for things to get captured in some systemd log [...]?

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

Roberto C. Sánchez writes: > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:24:32PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: >> >> Actually, there's no need to duplicate the effort. As I understand it, >> resolvconf is basically an optional helper program. Software that >> automatically modifies

Re: Alternative à Nagios

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Re: PXE netboot to load OS from /dev/sda1

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Re: chroot ssh sftp

Bonjour, A tout hasard, savez-vous comment je peux loguer tout ce qui se passe en terminal pour surveiller tous les utilisateurs et ce qu'il font (saisi au clavier, edition de fichier etc) le .bash_history mais je n'ai pas ce qui est saisi au clavier. Si vous avez des pistes. Cordialement

Re: Bug: updating Debian9 not "allowed".

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Retro update

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Re: Alternative à Nagios

Bonjour, J'utilise Centreon (Entreprise server avec la totale) au boulot, il existe une version community qui remplira grandement ton besoin. Zabbix, nous utilisons aussi en interne, si ces pistes peuvent t'aider à faire un choix, c'est du solide en tout cas. Si tu te mets à ces deux produits,