Re: Handhelds that conviently run Debian

[Frank Weißer]

Stefan Monnier:

- Install LineageOS.


It works fine on my wileyfox swift, still with playground (I was 
unsecure at the first try), but the next device is already waiting for 
pure version of> https://lineageos.org/


without that google stuff. I use fdroid > f-droid.org

instead or raccoon > http://raccoon.onyxbits.de/

if necessary.

readU
Frank

Re: Talking about RAID - disks with same id

[deloptes]

David Christensen wrote:

> My file server had a 1.5 TB desktop drive with LUKS and btrfs, created
> with Debian 7.  When I rebuilt my SOHO network with Debian 8, all was
> well.  But, when I rebuilt my SOHO network with Debian 9, I noted
> weirdness.  I don't know if it was Debian, GNU, Linux, LUKS, btrfs,
> smbd, something on the client, PEBKAS, etc..
> 
> 
> While trouble-shooting PEBKAS issues is important to me, I have found
> that my attempts at trouble-shooting GNU/Linux issues is usually an
> exercise in futility.  The best I can hope for is finding a way to
> reproduce the issue and filing a bug report.  But as for fixing an
> issue, my best bets is fresh software and known-good hardware.
> 
> 
> So, for the file server issue, I built a 2 @ 1.5 TB mdadm RAID1 with
> LUKS and ext4 in another Debian 9 machine, tested it, backed up the file
> server, migrated the data, and then migrated the drives.  The weirdness
> is now gone.  :-)
> 
> 
> We'll see what happens when I rebuild with Debian 10...

Hi David and thanks for sharing your experience. However it does not bring
an answer to my question.
I personally never had problems with fixing issues and I must admit the
community is often more helpful than some commercial companies.
Since Etch I never had to reinstall my servers upgrade worked more or less
pretty well. Of course performing an upgrade on a test machine is a must.

What I want to know is if this

# blkid /dev/sdf1
/dev/sdf1: UUID="5427071b-25c8-fff8-476d-ff8c9852b714"
TYPE="linux_raid_member" PARTUUID="13e17ac7-01"
# blkid /dev/sdg1
/dev/sdg1: UUID="5427071b-25c8-fff8-476d-ff8c9852b714"
TYPE="linux_raid_member" PARTUUID="13e17ac7-01"

has some effect and I should replace one of the disks. I think the Seagate
is >10y old.

regads

Re: Sync two disks and hot swap

[David Christensen]

On 11/08/17 17:44, Bob Weber wrote:

On 11/8/17 5:59 PM, David Christensen wrote:

I have read articles about building a RAID 1 with three drives, migrating in
data, pulling one drive and placing it off-site, operating in degraded mode on
two drives, and then periodically re-installing the third drive, resilvering,
pulling one drive and placing it off-site, and returning to degraded
operations on two drives.  But STFW just now, I see a lot of posts with titles
indicating this is a bad idea.

...

But what I really want is some form of snapshot technology (rsync/hard link,
LVM, btrfs, ZFS) with all the goodies -- realtime compression, realtime
de-duplication, and encryption.  I need a more powerful backup server (many
core processor with AES-NI, 16+ GB RAM, SSD caches, etc.).



I have used raid 1 to make a drive I can take off site for backup.  You just
grow the raid 1 array by one disk and add the disk you want to take out (even on
a usb/sata connection ... but slow).   Of course the disk or partition(s) need
to be the same size as the array.  Let it sync and then boot to a live cd and
you can fail and remove that drive.   Or just power down and remove the drive.
That way the embedded file system will be unmounted correctly.  I have then
taken that one drive and connected it to another system and been able to run the
raid 1 in degraded mode and mount the embedded file system(s) to get to the
files.  To make the original raid happy just grow the array again setting the
number of drives back to what it was originally (you can grow to a smaller
number).  The syncing can be slow since every byte on the drive needs to be
"synced" instead of just the space the files take up.


Okay.  What RAID technology were you using -- LVM, mdadm, btrfs, ZFS, other?



I tried to use btrfs in several VMs running debian but I kept having to delete
snapshots to make sure I had enough free space.


Compression and deduplication may have helped.


Backups are an ideal use-case for compression and deduplication.


The other half of snapshots is replication; ideally using a deduplicated 
and compressed stream.



Now that ZOL is in the Debian 'contrib' repository, I need to play with 
it some more:


https://packages.debian.org/stretch/zfs-dkms


David

Re: Opening Intellicast Causes Firefox to close

[Charlie Gibbs]

On 08/11/17 12:15 PM, davidson wrote:


On Wed, 8 Nov 2017, davidson wrote:


Myself, I search for web browser packages like so:

$ apt-cache search web browser | grep -i 'web.*browser'

On stretch, main repo only, this returns about 60-odd results with
lots of false positives.


I neglected to mention that this kludge fails to return some packaged
web browsers. w3m and elinks, for example. (And it does return
qupzilla, though I missed seeing it on first glance.)

So the list is incomplete.

But seeing as OP had resorted to compiling seamonkey, I thought I'd
throw in two cents for whatever it might be worth.


I didn't have to compile Seamonkey; I just downloaded the binary from

https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/

--
cgi...@surfnaked.ca (Charlie Gibbs)

Re: How to compile color database?

[Richard Hector]

On 09/11/17 11:41, Fred wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> After editing /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt what program needs to run to
> recompile the color database?
> 
> According to google it should be rgb < rgb.txt but the rgb program is
> nowhere to be found.

Is it necessary? An old manpage for xorg.conf:

ftp://www.x.org/pub/X11R6.7.0/doc/xorg.conf.5.html

implies that the X server may be compiled to read a plain text file, and
that's all I seem to have - perhaps that's the standard way now?

The current xorg.conf manpage doesn't say anything about it.

Richard



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Re: standards for post-installation scripts

[Dan Hitt]

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Roberto C. Sánchez  wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 06:22:37PM -0800, Dan Hitt wrote:
>> Does debian have guidelines or rules for post-installation scripts?
>>
>> I had trouble installing a package, and i would sort of like to file a
>> bug describing the behavior.  But i'd only want to do this if there
>> were rules, and these rules were definite enough to make it very clear
>> something in the package was in error and not just lousy setup on my
>> part.
>>
> I have occassionally introduced bugs in my maintainer scripts, so it
> would not be crazy to think you might have found a maintainer script
> bug.  Here are a couple of references that might help you decide if what
> you are seeing is a bug:
>
> https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/#maintainer-scripts
> https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/ch06.en.html#bpp-debian-maint-scripts
>

Thanks Roberto!

The debian-policy document is very interesting, and is definitive on
at least part of what i was searching for.

Anyhow, i'm holding off on further action until i know a little more,
and am a little more sure.

Thanks for your help!!

dan

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Re: standards for post-installation scripts

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 06:22:37PM -0800, Dan Hitt wrote:
> Does debian have guidelines or rules for post-installation scripts?
> 
> I had trouble installing a package, and i would sort of like to file a
> bug describing the behavior.  But i'd only want to do this if there
> were rules, and these rules were definite enough to make it very clear
> something in the package was in error and not just lousy setup on my
> part.
> 
I have occassionally introduced bugs in my maintainer scripts, so it
would not be crazy to think you might have found a maintainer script
bug.  Here are a couple of references that might help you decide if what
you are seeing is a bug:

https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/#maintainer-scripts
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/ch06.en.html#bpp-debian-maint-scripts

Regards,

-Roberto

-- 
Roberto C. Sánchez

standards for post-installation scripts

[Dan Hitt]

Does debian have guidelines or rules for post-installation scripts?

I had trouble installing a package, and i would sort of like to file a
bug describing the behavior.  But i'd only want to do this if there
were rules, and these rules were definite enough to make it very clear
something in the package was in error and not just lousy setup on my
part.

TIA for any info!

dan

Re: Sync two disks and hot swap

[Bob Weber]

On 11/8/17 5:59 PM, David Christensen wrote:
> On 11/08/17 02:49, Dominik George wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have the following scenario:
>>
>>   * A server with two hard drives in removable cases
>>   * A backup process writes data to both disks, making up a live backup 
>> server
>>   * A third disk is to be kept off-site
>>   * On a ergular basis, I want to hot-swap one of the disks, as in, remove
>>     one of the two synced disks and replace it with the stale off-site copy,
>>     and put the now recent copy off-site
>>
>> I figure that a simple software RAID 1 would do the trick, but it is not
>> really made for it and would need some complex manual intervention in
>> order to not break the state on the removed disk.
>>
>> Any ideas on how to achieve this, or arguments that RAID 1 would indeed
>> be a good solution?
>
> Are the two drives in RAID (1?) or do they each have their own file system?
>
>
> I have read articles about building a RAID 1 with three drives, migrating in
> data, pulling one drive and placing it off-site, operating in degraded mode on
> two drives, and then periodically re-installing the third drive, resilvering,
> pulling one drive and placing it off-site, and returning to degraded
> operations on two drives.  But STFW just now, I see a lot of posts with titles
> indicating this is a bad idea.
>
>
> I have three drives in mobile dock drawers, each with LUKS and ext4. One is
> on-line in my backup server, one is near-site, and one is off-site. 
> Periodically, I put the near-site drive into the backup server, rsync the
> on-line drive to the near-site drive, remove the near-site drive, and then
> swap the near-site and off-site drives. Admittedly the wear is uneven, but
> it's KISS and it works.
>
>
> But what I really want is some form of snapshot technology (rsync/hard link,
> LVM, btrfs, ZFS) with all the goodies -- realtime compression, realtime
> de-duplication, and encryption.  I need a more powerful backup server (many
> core processor with AES-NI, 16+ GB RAM, SSD caches, etc.).
>
>
> David
>
>
I have used raid 1 to make a drive I can take off site for backup.  You just
grow the raid 1 array by one disk and add the disk you want to take out (even on
a usb/sata connection ... but slow).   Of course the disk or partition(s) need
to be the same size as the array.  Let it sync and then boot to a live cd and
you can fail and remove that drive.   Or just power down and remove the drive.  
That way the embedded file system will be unmounted correctly.  I have then
taken that one drive and connected it to another system and been able to run the
raid 1 in degraded mode and mount the embedded file system(s) to get to the
files.  To make the original raid happy just grow the array again setting the
number of drives back to what it was originally (you can grow to a smaller
number).  The syncing can be slow since every byte on the drive needs to be
"synced" instead of just the space the files take up.

I tried to use btrfs in several VMs running debian but I kept having to delete
snapshots to make sure I had enough free space.

-- 


*...Bob*

Re: Handhelds that conviently run Debian

[Stefan Monnier]

> If you want a smartphone but don't want a smartphone, it sounds to me
> as if you want a smartphone with no SIM card. It's possible that this

Indeed.  I was looking for a "modern walkman" and the best and cheapest
option nowadays is to get a smartphone for that (and simply not use the
phone part).

Clearly, you'll want to have some control over this device, which is the
tricky part, since most vendors want to keep the control to themselves.

There are several options:
- Install some "unpriviledged" Debian subsystem.
  There are several packages doing that in the Google Play store, such
  as GNURoot.
  I only use F-Droid rather than Google's store and they don't seem to
  be in there, and when I tried GNURoot "by hand" I wasn't able to make
  it work on my device.
- Get root access and install a more normal Debian subsystem, such as
  Lil'Debi.  Beware: in my experience with current versions of Android
  it's common that even root access doesn't give you enough rights to
  make those packages work.
- Install LineageOS.
- Install Replicant.

For the last 2 options, you can check what are the supported devices
(they tend to be fairly old, but you might be able to find them on ebay
for a good price).


Stefan

Re: Re: Iceweasel woes

[Mike Mcclain]

I went to the message you linked and then the site mentioned and downloaded a 
large /etc/hosts file that seems to send most of what was eating up cpu & 
memory to the bit bucket. Huge difference in FF response time, no hard drive 
grinding. Top now shows around 10% cpu usage and 80% memory.
Thank you very much,Mike

Re: Re: Iceweasel woes

[Mike McClain]

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2017 #1201

[Josh W.]

Thanks a million guys!! It is up and going now.

Joshua 

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 3:41 PM,  wrote:

> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> debian-user-digest Digest   Volume 2017 :
> Issue 1201
>
> Today's Topics:
>   Gnome desktop almost totally unrespo  [ "James H. H. Lampert"
>    Re: Sync two disks and hot swap   [ Dominik George <
> n...@naturalnet.de> ]
>   Re: Gnome desktop almost totally unr  [ Roberto
> =?iso-8859-1?Q?C=2E_S=E1nch ]
>   Re: Sync two disks and hot swap   [ Michael Stone 
> ]
>   Reproducible bug  [ Laurent Lyaudet
>    Re: Ethernet card locking up when ac  [ Andrew W <
> andrewjamesw...@ymail.com ]
>   Re: Opening Intellicast Causes Firef  [ davidson 
> ]
>   Re: Opening Intellicast Causes Firef  [ Greg Wooledge <
> wool...@eeg.ccf.org> ]
>   Re: Reproducible bug  [ Roberto
> =?iso-8859-1?Q?C=2E_S=E1nch ]
>   Re: Opening Intellicast Causes Firef  [ davidson 
> ]
>   Re: Opening Intellicast Causes Firef  [ davidson 
> ]
>   Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid   [ Adrian Bunk  ]
>   Re: RAID 5 array with journal device  [ deloptes  ]
>   Re: Opening Intellicast Causes Firef  [ Will Mengarini <
> sel...@eskimo.com> ]
>   Re: Handhelds that conviently run De  [ deloptes  ]
>   sudo  [ "Josh W." 
> ]
>   Re: sudo  [ Greg Wooledge <
> wool...@eeg.ccf.org> ]
>   Re: sudo  [ Will Mengarini <
> sel...@eskimo.com> ]
>   Re: sudo  [  ]
>   Re: sudo  [ Tom Furie  ]
>   Re: sudo  [ Joe  ]
>
> Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2017 10:40:22 -0800
> From: "James H. H. Lampert" 
> To: "debian-user@lists.debian.org" 
> Subject: Gnome desktop almost totally unresponsive in Jessie
> Message-ID: <5a034f96.1090...@touchtonecorp.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
> I've got a small problem. On our local Jessie box, the Tomcat and Apache
> web servers both seem responsive enough, and I likewise have no trouble
> getting and using an SSH session remotely (except that the "find"
> command is extremely slow).
>
> But the Gnome desktop has become almost totally unresponsive.
>
> I'd rather not restart the box. Any advice on how to deal with this
> without restarting the box?
>
> --
> JHHL
>
> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2017 19:55:24 +0100
> From: Dominik George 
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Sync two disks and hot swap
> Message-ID: <20171108185523.kqgf6wgri3dnc...@portux.lan.naturalnet.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> Content-Disposition: inline
>
> Hi,
>
> > Instead, if you just want a disk that has a readable copy of the files,
> you
> > may find that rsync is more straightforward and can be a lot faster after
> > the first time if the volume of changes is a small percentage of the
> total.
>
> Yes, of course. But that would not lead to an identical copy of the
> disk, only the files in its filesystem.
>
> I will choose that way if nothing else comes up in this thread.
>
> -nik
>
> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2017 13:55:37 -0500
> From: Roberto =?iso-8859-1?Q?C=2E_S=E1nchez?= 
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Gnome desktop almost totally unresponsive in Jessie
> Message-ID: <20171108185537.myjohxfczc2t7...@santiago.connexer.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> Content-Disposition: inline
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>
> On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 10:40:22AM -0800, James H. H. Lampert wrote:
> > I've got a small problem. On our local Jessie box, the Tomcat and Apache
> web
> > servers both seem responsive enough, and I likewise have no trouble
> getting
> > and using an SSH session remotely (except that the "find" command is
> > extremely slow).
> >
> > But the Gnome desktop has become almost totally unresponsive.
> >
> > I'd rather not restart the box. Any advice on how to deal with this
> without
> > restarting the box?
> >
> The output of 'ps aux', 'iostat', and 'free -m' would help identify the
> problem.  Also, 'cat /proc/mdstat' if you have a RAID setup.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Roberto
>
> --
> Roberto C. Sánchez
>
> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2017 14:17:08 -0500
> From: Michael Stone 
> To: Dominik George 
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Sync two disks and hot swap
> Message-ID: <602667dc-c4b9-11e7-9b6a-00163eeb5...@msgid.mathom.us>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> 

Re: Ethernet card locking up when acting as virtual bridge

[David Christensen]

On 11/08/17 02:54, Andrew Wood wrote:

3Com Etherlink Model 3C905C


That card is *old* -- it brings back memories. :-)  And, 3Com is gone. 
Is there any FOSS support for 3Com stuff?



Intel supports FOSS on their products, which means their products are 
much more likely to work correctly on Debian GNU/Linux (and others). 
So, I buy Intel stuff.



David

Re: sudo

[David Christensen]

On 11/08/17 12:56, Josh W. wrote:

Hello, I am trying to figure out how to add a user to sudo... Not sure of
the process.. Could somebody point me in the right direction. Thanks!


https://www.michaelwlucas.com/tools/sudo


David

Re: Sync two disks and hot swap

[David Christensen]

On 11/08/17 02:49, Dominik George wrote:

Hi,

I have the following scenario:

  * A server with two hard drives in removable cases
  * A backup process writes data to both disks, making up a live backup server
  * A third disk is to be kept off-site
  * On a ergular basis, I want to hot-swap one of the disks, as in, remove
one of the two synced disks and replace it with the stale off-site copy,
and put the now recent copy off-site

I figure that a simple software RAID 1 would do the trick, but it is not
really made for it and would need some complex manual intervention in
order to not break the state on the removed disk.

Any ideas on how to achieve this, or arguments that RAID 1 would indeed
be a good solution?


Are the two drives in RAID (1?) or do they each have their own file system?


I have read articles about building a RAID 1 with three drives, 
migrating in data, pulling one drive and placing it off-site, operating 
in degraded mode on two drives, and then periodically re-installing the 
third drive, resilvering, pulling one drive and placing it off-site, and 
returning to degraded operations on two drives.  But STFW just now, I 
see a lot of posts with titles indicating this is a bad idea.



I have three drives in mobile dock drawers, each with LUKS and ext4. 
One is on-line in my backup server, one is near-site, and one is 
off-site.  Periodically, I put the near-site drive into the backup 
server, rsync the on-line drive to the near-site drive, remove the 
near-site drive, and then swap the near-site and off-site drives. 
Admittedly the wear is uneven, but it's KISS and it works.



But what I really want is some form of snapshot technology (rsync/hard 
link, LVM, btrfs, ZFS) with all the goodies -- realtime compression, 
realtime de-duplication, and encryption.  I need a more powerful backup 
server (many core processor with AES-NI, 16+ GB RAM, SSD caches, etc.).



David

How to compile color database?

[Fred]

Hello,

After editing /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt what program needs to run to 
recompile the color database?


According to google it should be rgb < rgb.txt but the rgb program is 
nowhere to be found.


Best regards,
Fred Boatwright

Re: Talking about RAID - disks with same id

[David Christensen]

On 11/08/17 13:40, deloptes wrote:

Hi,
I noticed recently by accident that when I read/write from the oldest raid
disks I have - only one of the tray leds blinks. Of course the led could be
damaged, but rather not, so looking into it I found that both disks in
question return same UUID. So I am concerned now that I don't have any true
RAID there and that there is very important data on those disks.

How is this possible and how to solve it - I would simply add 3rd 500MB disk
to the raid and remove one of the others, but still what is the impact of
this (stupid) coincidence ...

# blkid /dev/sdf
/dev/sdf: PTUUID="13e17ac7" PTTYPE="dos"
   
# blkid /dev/sdg
/dev/sdg: PTUUID="13e17ac7" PTTYPE="dos"


My file server had a 1.5 TB desktop drive with LUKS and btrfs, created 
with Debian 7.  When I rebuilt my SOHO network with Debian 8, all was 
well.  But, when I rebuilt my SOHO network with Debian 9, I noted 
weirdness.  I don't know if it was Debian, GNU, Linux, LUKS, btrfs, 
smbd, something on the client, PEBKAS, etc..



While trouble-shooting PEBKAS issues is important to me, I have found 
that my attempts at trouble-shooting GNU/Linux issues is usually an 
exercise in futility.  The best I can hope for is finding a way to 
reproduce the issue and filing a bug report.  But as for fixing an 
issue, my best bets is fresh software and known-good hardware.



So, for the file server issue, I built a 2 @ 1.5 TB mdadm RAID1 with 
LUKS and ext4 in another Debian 9 machine, tested it, backed up the file 
server, migrated the data, and then migrated the drives.  The weirdness 
is now gone.  :-)



We'll see what happens when I rebuild with Debian 10...


David

Re: Opening Intellicast Causes Firefox to close

[RRRoy BBBean]

On Wed, 2017-11-08 at 19:59 +, davidson wrote:
> 
> chromium (duh. included for completeness)
> dillo
> edbrowse
> firefox-esr (OP wants something else; included for completeness)
> iceweasel (duh. included for completeness)
> links
> links2
> luakit
> midori
> netsurf, netsurf-fb, netsurf-gtk
> hv3 (due to a missing library in debian it lacks javascript support)
> xombrero

There is probably also still a text-based browser called elinks,
although I haven't tried using it in over two years. I used to use it
for simple stuff when working from Debian 6 with no graphics (server
mode). elinks was better than lynx, but it wouldn't run much in the way
of javascript or anything fancy. It was great for browsing most kinds
of software documentation presented as html. It was also good for
logging in to public wi-fi, where they have you to agree to a usage
policy before letting you go online.

There is also QupZilla available on Debian 9, but I've never used it.

Don't forget about Opera. They have a .deb file of their latest
browser, which can be downloaded from opera.com, but I can't get it to
install when I try installing it on Debian 9 (64-bit). I get some
complaint about the package not being a proper package. I have run
Opera on Fedora 24 in the recent past, with no problems.

Re: Gnome desktop almost totally unresponsive in Jessie

[James H. H. Lampert]

On 11/8/17, 10:55 AM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:

The output of 'ps aux', 'iostat', and 'free -m' would help identify the

problem.  Also, 'cat /proc/mdstat' if you have a RAID setup.

. . .

After a mostly-off-List discussion with Mr. Sanchez, I gave up and did a 
"shutdown -r" on the system.


After a re-IPL, Gnome was back to gnormal, and everything else was back 
up as well.


It's not like it's an AS/400, or even a state-of-the-art Linux box, 
that's designed to run for years at a time without an IPL -- it's an old 
Dell PowerEdge 400SC.


And I'd forgotten: it DOES have RAID: a hardware RAID controller with 
two mirrored pairs on it.


No sign of damage to the mirrored pairs, but a full cold-start might be 
necessary to be sure of that, if not an actual controller-level diagnostic.


--
JHHL

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

[Arnd Bergmann]

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Adrian Bunk  wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 12:52:05AM +0200, Aaro Koskinen wrote:
>>
>>... OMAP15xx is frequently tested and used
>> by OMAP1 hackers (thanks to Amstrad Delta).
>
> But is anyone still using Debian on OMAP15xx?
>
> Looking at the amount of RAM in the Amstrad Delta,
> I'd be surprised if anyone is actually using
> Debian on that hardware.

It's 128MB, right? How unrealistic is that these days?

All the ARMv4T chips I checked (at91rm9200, imx1, ep73xx, ep93xx,
ks8695, omap1510 and s3c24xx) with the exception of the s3c2443
(which we barely support) only support SDRAM, not DDR, so they
are already limited to 64MB (512Mbit) per memory chip, and typically
256MB as the absolute maximum on a 32-bit interface with four x8
chips.

   Arnd

Talking about RAID - disks with same id

[deloptes]

Hi,
I noticed recently by accident that when I read/write from the oldest raid
disks I have - only one of the tray leds blinks. Of course the led could be
damaged, but rather not, so looking into it I found that both disks in
question return same UUID. So I am concerned now that I don't have any true
RAID there and that there is very important data on those disks.

How is this possible and how to solve it - I would simply add 3rd 500MB disk
to the raid and remove one of the others, but still what is the impact of
this (stupid) coincidence ...

# blkid /dev/sdf
/dev/sdf: PTUUID="13e17ac7" PTTYPE="dos"
  
# blkid /dev/sdg
/dev/sdg: PTUUID="13e17ac7" PTTYPE="dos"
  
# blkid /dev/sda
/dev/sda: PTUUID="4184002e" PTTYPE="dos"
# blkid /dev/sdb
/dev/sdb: PTUUID="9570a766" PTTYPE="dos"
# blkid /dev/sdd
/dev/sdd: PTUUID="d898a14c" PTTYPE="dos"
# blkid /dev/sde
/dev/sde: PTUUID="b6346d5e" PTTYPE="dos"


# blkid /dev/sdf1
/dev/sdf1: UUID="5427071b-25c8-fff8-476d-ff8c9852b714"
TYPE="linux_raid_member" PARTUUID="13e17ac7-01"
# blkid /dev/sdg1
/dev/sdg1: UUID="5427071b-25c8-fff8-476d-ff8c9852b714"
TYPE="linux_raid_member" PARTUUID="13e17ac7-01"


# smartctl -i /dev/sdf
smartctl 6.6 2016-05-31 r4324 [x86_64-linux-4.12.10] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-16, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Western Digital Caviar Blue (SATA)
Device Model: WDC WD5000AAKS-00A7B0
Serial Number:WD-WMASY0076274
LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 055d4abcc
Firmware Version: 01.03B01
User Capacity:500,107,862,016 bytes [500 GB]
Sector Size:  512 bytes logical/physical
Device is:In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   ATA8-ACS (minor revision not indicated)
SATA Version is:  SATA 2.5, 3.0 Gb/s
Local Time is:Wed Nov  8 22:30:10 2017 CET
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

# smartctl -i /dev/sdg
smartctl 6.6 2016-05-31 r4324 [x86_64-linux-4.12.10] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-16, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10
Device Model: ST3500630AS
Serial Number:9QG87WTQ
Firmware Version: 3.AAK
User Capacity:500,107,862,016 bytes [500 GB]
Sector Size:  512 bytes logical/physical
Device is:In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   ATA/ATAPI-7 (minor revision not indicated)
Local Time is:Wed Nov  8 22:30:12 2017 CET
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

Re: plutôt keepass2 ou keepassx ?

[Charles Plessy]

Le Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 07:29:36PM +0100, Gilles Mocellin a écrit :
> 
> J'utilise https://keepassxc.org/, un fork de keepassx qui intègre KeepassHTTP 
> Server, ce qui permet une intégration avec les navigateurs, via l'extension 
> KeePassHTTP connector : https://github.com/smorks/keepasshttp-connector
> 
> Disponible sous forme d'AppImage ou snap, exécutable sur toute distrib sans 
> prise de tête.
> Et aussi, disponible sous Windows version portable ou non, MacOS...

Et bientôt dans Debian :)

https://ftp-master.debian.org/new/keepassxc_2.2.0-1.html

Amicalement,

Charles

-- 
Charles Plessy
Debian Med packaging team,
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-med
Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan

Re: sudo

[Joe]

On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 14:56:36 -0600
"Josh W."  wrote:

> Hello, I am trying to figure out how to add a user to sudo... Not
> sure of the process.. Could somebody point me in the right direction.
> Thanks!


Try Google with
 sudo tutorial debian

In Debian, you can do this the quick and (very) dirty way, by
effectively making yourself root after the entry of your user password:
https://wiki.debian.org/sudo

This is fine for a one-user home computer that's not likely to attract
the attention of serious human hackers.

Or you can do it the 'proper' way, by defining what commands you want
to run, and creating /etc/sudoers (better, new files in /etc/sudoers.d)
entries to suit using the visudo program as root. This is harder, and
requires you to know in advance what you want to do as root, but the
correct way with multiple users with varying duties, and/or a business
environment.

-- 
Joe

Re: sudo

[Tom Furie]

On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 02:56:36PM -0600, Josh W. wrote:

> Hello, I am trying to figure out how to add a user to sudo... Not sure of
> the process.. Could somebody point me in the right direction. Thanks!

If you just want to allow a user to use sudo in the default Debian
configuration, it's as simple as adding the user to the sudo group:

   # adduser  sudo

where  is the user you want to add. The user will be in the
group the next time they log in.

Cheers,
Tom

-- 
I have always noticed that whenever a radical takes to Imperialism,
he catches it in a very acute form.
-- Winston Churchill, 1903


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Re: sudo

[tomas]

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On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 02:56:36PM -0600, Josh W. wrote:
> Hello, I am trying to figure out how to add a user to sudo... Not sure of
> the process.. Could somebody point me in the right direction. Thanks!

In Debian, typically there's a group called 'sudo': user belonging to
this group have sudo capability (if the group is enabled for that in
the /etc/sudoers file). So:

 - enable the 'sudo' group in the /etc/sudoers file, by editing
   as root (there's a nice command visudo which calls your favourite
   editor on this file and helps you making sure that you don't
   break anything -- see man visudo for details). Make sure you
   have a line like

%sudo   ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL

   in that file (possibly you just have to remove a comment sign
   '#' at its beginning)

 - add your user to the sudo group:

   adduser  sudo

Note that you have to login for that to take effect.

Cheers
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Re: sudo

[Will Mengarini]

* Josh W.  [17-11/08=We 14:56 -0600]:
> I am trying to figure out how to add a user to sudo.  Not sure of the
> process.  Could somebody point me in the right direction.  Thanks!

sudo adduser beeblebrox sudo # man adduser

Re: sudo

[Greg Wooledge]

On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 02:56:36PM -0600, Josh W. wrote:
> Hello, I am trying to figure out how to add a user to sudo... Not sure of
> the process.. Could somebody point me in the right direction. Thanks!

Add the user to the "sudo" group.  Either by editing /etc/group directly,
or by using "adduser username sudo".

sudo

[Josh W.]

Hello, I am trying to figure out how to add a user to sudo... Not sure of
the process.. Could somebody point me in the right direction. Thanks!


Joshua 

Re: Handhelds that conviently run Debian

[deloptes]

Richard Owlett wrote:

> On a regional mailing list I had described what I'm looking for as a
> tablet. That seems to include things that fold.  Although I *DON'T* want
> a "smartphone", that physical form factor is desirable. It must be
> available as "new" from a U.S. retailer.
> 
> I have a preference for x86 processors, that is not a requirement.
> I would like to use with a USB keyboard.
> It will be used for simple data collection and data will be transferred
> to home system primarily via a USB flash drive.
> 
> I suspect I've some unrecognized assumptions.
> Suggestions please.

there are various small factor and mini pcs, industrial pcs as well. What I
don't understand is if you want to have a screen attached or embedded.

some 10y ago I bought Acrosser with Geode, Raspberry and alike is definitely
an option.
Recently I'm playing with SailfishOS on Sony Xperia X, I also bought Intex
AquaFish and I'm using Nokia N9 as primary phone.

>From what I've seen you can't easily find something handheld where you can
plug a usb - don't know because of size or power.
Also those mini pcs with SoC for the public are lame IMO, but good change
that it would run debian

https://www.linux.com/news/five-best-linux-powered-mini-computers

regards

Re: Opening Intellicast Causes Firefox to close

[Will Mengarini]

* Stephen P Molnar  [17-11/08=We 07:25 -0500]:
> I downloaded and compiled the src from The Seamonkey Project.
> [...] The browser still crashed when loading www,distrowatch.com!!!

When I try to access distrowatch.com with a very old Firefox,
using NoScript, I always get 403 Forbidden with no other message.

However, Stretch versions of text browsers
Lynx, w3m, and elinks have no problem.

(I don't have a graphics-enabled Stretch working yet -
hardware issues - so I can't try the latest graphical browsers.)

(1) So it's possible distrowatch.com is weird in some way that Seamonkey
can't handle.  If you're getting crashes on many other web sites,
especially if they're intermittent, you might want to consider
incipient hardware failure as a differential diagnosis.

I'd expect incipient hardware failure to cause glitches more frequently
when you're using a graphical system than when doing text-mode work.

(2) A better possibility is that it's an SSL issue.  Running strace
to find where the crash occurs could localize that.  Identifying
your SSL library and possibly upgrading or changing it could help.

(3) Lynx compiled on a Gentoo system used to crash often because
of a problem with the default CFLAGS setting.  Check that
your CFLAGS are conservative; you're looking for reliability,
not speed.  Also, conservative CFLAGS (disabling most
optimizations) might make debugging output more meaningful.

> Compiling the src reminded me of years ago when I used to compile the
> Linux kernel - an agonizingly long procedure, but it finally finished.

I find it helps to keep reminding myself that computers save time.

-- 
 Will Mengarini  
 Free software: the Source will be with you, always.
  "techtonic stress"  -- Unix fortune cookie

Re: RAID 5 array with journal device does not automatically assemble at boot

[deloptes]

Tobx wrote:

> RAID assembling at boot only works when no journal device is involved.
> 

I can't help much here, nothing to compare. I forgot to mention that md
driver is compiled in the kernel in my case.

> VERBOSE=false

perhaps set to true and see what it says.

> 
> Options in /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf are:
> 
> HOMEHOST 
> MAILADDR root
> ARRAY /dev/md/test  metadata=1.2 UUID=4f0448f6:fee2638c:a1c1b547:20358980
> name=debian:test spares=1

.. and I assume you double checked (blkid) the UUID.

No idea - just trying to help as it sounded similar to what I've
experienced. However in your case the "--write-journal=/dev/sde1" seems to
cause the issue.
According the docs [1,2] I overflew it is used only when creating an array.
[3] says explicitly create, build or grow. For manage you should
use --add-journal

regards

[1] https://lwn.net/Articles/665299/
[2] 2016_vault_write_journal_cache_v2.pdf
[3] https://man.cx/mdadm(8)

Re: Enfermedades

[Felix Perez]

El 8 de noviembre de 2017, 14:52, Maykel Franco
 escribió:
> Que pena de lista... Ay dios mío.
>

¿Y que tiene que ver la lista con esta clase de mensajes?
¿Acaso nunca enviaste un mensaje por error a alguien?
¿Acaso nunca has leído a un troll?
¿Acaso no le bastaba con borrar el post?

Si no le gusta la lista, los mensajes o los integrantes de ella, el
internet es bastante vasto, como para buscar algo que lo llene
plenamente.

> El 8 nov. 2017 3:45 p. m., "luis godoy"  escribió:
>
> Conoces por qué la gente se enferma por lo que la policía llama
> investigaciones sobre algún delito o algo relacionado con alguna
> investigación?
>
> Yo sé algo, falta lo demás.
>
>



-- 
usuario linux  #274354
normas de la lista:  http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista
como hacer preguntas inteligentes:
http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

[Adrian Bunk]

On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 12:52:05AM +0200, Aaro Koskinen wrote:
>
>... OMAP15xx is frequently tested and used
> by OMAP1 hackers (thanks to Amstrad Delta).

But is anyone still using Debian on OMAP15xx?

Looking at the amount of RAM in the Amstrad Delta,
I'd be surprised if anyone is actually using
Debian on that hardware.
 
> A.

cu
Adrian

-- 

   "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
   "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
   Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed

Re: Opening Intellicast Causes Firefox to close

[davidson]

On Wed, 8 Nov 2017, Greg Wooledge wrote:


On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 07:59:00PM +, davidson wrote:

It is my understanding that fancy package management tools that I
don't use myself (like aptitude, synaptic, etc) can search for
packages that Provide 'www-browser', or for packages with Tag
'web::browser'.  Maybe somebody familiar with such fancy tools can
chime in and explain how to do this.

Myself, I search for web browser packages like so:

 $ apt-cache search web browser | grep -i 'web.*browser'


What you want is a list of package that "provide" the www-browser
virtual package.  The only way I currently know to get this is:

apt-cache showpkg www-browser | sed '1,/Reverse Provides/d'


That is perfect. Thank you.

Re: Opening Intellicast Causes Firefox to close

[davidson]

On Wed, 8 Nov 2017, davidson wrote:


Myself, I search for web browser packages like so:

$ apt-cache search web browser | grep -i 'web.*browser'

On stretch, main repo only, this returns about 60-odd results with
lots of false positives.


I neglected to mention that this kludge fails to return some packaged
web browsers. w3m and elinks, for example. (And it does return
qupzilla, though I missed seeing it on first glance.)

So the list is incomplete.

But seeing as OP had resorted to compiling seamonkey, I thought I'd
throw in two cents for whatever it might be worth.

Re: Reproducible bug

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 08:19:11PM +0100, Laurent Lyaudet wrote:
>Hello,
> 
>I found a reproducible bug in latest stable Debian on my laptop.
>My install is up-to-date with latest security updates (that's the first
>thing I do anytime I start my laptop).
>I'm using Gnome.
>Steps to reproduce on my laptop:
> - activate the wifi with upper right screen controls
> - repeatedly click on "Activities" in the upper left corner to show the
>quick launch bar and click below to hide it. After a few seconds after the
>network connection is set, the click on Activities no longer works. After
>one minute, it starts working again.
> 
>Note that if I don't activate the wifi, then I can repeatedly click on
>"Activities" without triggering the bug.

This sounds like some sort of network-related time out.  Do you have
LDAP authentication, Kerberos, Samba, NFS automounts, etc.?  Does it
always happen regardless of what wireless network you connect to?  Could
it be the DNS configuration, whether that is the configuration pushed by
the network's DHCP server or an override configuration you are using?

Regards,

-Roberto

-- 
Roberto C. Sánchez

Re: Opening Intellicast Causes Firefox to close

[Greg Wooledge]

On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 07:59:00PM +, davidson wrote:
> It is my understanding that fancy package management tools that I
> don't use myself (like aptitude, synaptic, etc) can search for
> packages that Provide 'www-browser', or for packages with Tag
> 'web::browser'.  Maybe somebody familiar with such fancy tools can
> chime in and explain how to do this.
> 
> Myself, I search for web browser packages like so:
> 
>  $ apt-cache search web browser | grep -i 'web.*browser'

What you want is a list of package that "provide" the www-browser
virtual package.  The only way I currently know to get this is:

apt-cache showpkg www-browser | sed '1,/Reverse Provides/d'

Re: Opening Intellicast Causes Firefox to close

[davidson]

On Tue, 7 Nov 2017, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:


On 11/07/2017 01:50 PM, Will Mengarini wrote:

* Stephen P Molnar  [17-11/07=Tu 07:20 -0500]:

I am running Firefox ESR 52.4.0 (64 bit) on my [up-to-date
Stretch platform.  When] I attempt opening Intellicast,
either with Speeddial or tying the URL, Firefox crashes.

This just started happening yesterday
and there are no warnings or errors.


[snipped lots of (well-deserved) web 2.0 hate]


I appreciate the replies.

I'm probably going to have to change browsers, although I like the way the 
Firefox handles Speeddial.


It is my understanding that fancy package management tools that I
don't use myself (like aptitude, synaptic, etc) can search for
packages that Provide 'www-browser', or for packages with Tag
'web::browser'.  Maybe somebody familiar with such fancy tools can
chime in and explain how to do this.

Myself, I search for web browser packages like so:

 $ apt-cache search web browser | grep -i 'web.*browser'

On stretch, main repo only, this returns about 60-odd results with
lots of false positives.

Out of those results, these are packaged web browsers in stretch main
that I can recall using and not hating:

uzbl (NB: see /usr/share/doc/uzbl/keybindings.html)
conkeror (haven't used this one since wheezy.)
konqueror (it's been ages since I used it.)
epiphany-browser
surf
lynx (no interpretation of javascript; this has both pros and cons)

And here are the rest, as far as I can tell:

chromium (duh. included for completeness)
dillo
edbrowse
firefox-esr (OP wants something else; included for completeness)
iceweasel (duh. included for completeness)
links
links2
luakit
midori
netsurf, netsurf-fb, netsurf-gtk
hv3 (due to a missing library in debian it lacks javascript support)
xombrero

Good luck.

Re: Ethernet card locking up when acting as virtual bridge

[Andrew W]

On 08/11/2017 14:59, Christian Seiler wrote:


Is is possible for you to try a static IP on this interface and see
if that solves your problem?

Ive cleared the dhcp on br1 (and not assigned a static, left it with no 
IP) and so far its working OK

I will leave it a couple of days and see if it has indeed fixed the problem
Thanks Christian for your comprehensive reply and help.

Regards
Andrew

Reproducible bug

[Laurent Lyaudet]

Hello,

I found a reproducible bug in latest stable Debian on my laptop.
My install is up-to-date with latest security updates (that's the first
thing I do anytime I start my laptop).
I'm using Gnome.

Steps to reproduce on my laptop:
 - activate the wifi with upper right screen controls
 - repeatedly click on "Activities" in the upper left corner to show the
quick launch bar and click below to hide it. After a few seconds after the
network connection is set, the click on Activities no longer works. After
one minute, it starts working again.

Note that if I don't activate the wifi, then I can repeatedly click on
"Activities" without triggering the bug.

When I first installed the latest stable Debian on my laptop, I did not
encounter this bug.
I suppose it is a bug with Gnome but I'm not sure, that's why I'm here.
I wonder why it started happening a few weeks ago.
I think there was the update to X and I also had a crash of Firefox at its
startup because of some recently opened webpage.
Hence I don't know if it's a regression or a malware that causes this. (Yes
I'm a bit paranoïd but unfortunately, when I was using Ubuntu, before I
switched back to Debian, I have been hacked and lost some files :( .)

Thank you for the help, best regards,
   Laurent Lyaudet

Re: Sync two disks and hot swap

[Michael Stone]

On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 07:55:24PM +0100, Dominik George wrote:

Hi,


Instead, if you just want a disk that has a readable copy of the files, you
may find that rsync is more straightforward and can be a lot faster after
the first time if the volume of changes is a small percentage of the total.


Yes, of course. But that would not lead to an identical copy of the
disk, only the files in its filesystem.


what is the goal in having an identical copy of the disk?

Mike Stone

Re: Gnome desktop almost totally unresponsive in Jessie

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 10:40:22AM -0800, James H. H. Lampert wrote:
> I've got a small problem. On our local Jessie box, the Tomcat and Apache web
> servers both seem responsive enough, and I likewise have no trouble getting
> and using an SSH session remotely (except that the "find" command is
> extremely slow).
> 
> But the Gnome desktop has become almost totally unresponsive.
> 
> I'd rather not restart the box. Any advice on how to deal with this without
> restarting the box?
> 
The output of 'ps aux', 'iostat', and 'free -m' would help identify the
problem.  Also, 'cat /proc/mdstat' if you have a RAID setup.

Regards,

-Roberto

-- 
Roberto C. Sánchez

Re: Sync two disks and hot swap

[Dominik George]

Hi,

> Instead, if you just want a disk that has a readable copy of the files, you
> may find that rsync is more straightforward and can be a lot faster after
> the first time if the volume of changes is a small percentage of the total.

Yes, of course. But that would not lead to an identical copy of the
disk, only the files in its filesystem.

I will choose that way if nothing else comes up in this thread.

-nik

Gnome desktop almost totally unresponsive in Jessie

[James H. H. Lampert]

I've got a small problem. On our local Jessie box, the Tomcat and Apache 
web servers both seem responsive enough, and I likewise have no trouble 
getting and using an SSH session remotely (except that the "find" 
command is extremely slow).


But the Gnome desktop has become almost totally unresponsive.

I'd rather not restart the box. Any advice on how to deal with this 
without restarting the box?


--
JHHL

Re: Handhelds that conviently run Debian

[Richard Owlett]

On 11/08/2017 09:34 AM, David Wright wrote:

On Wed 08 Nov 2017 at 07:50:21 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:

On a regional mailing list I had described what I'm looking for as a
tablet. That seems to include things that fold.  Although I *DON'T*
want a "smartphone", that physical form factor is desirable. It must
be available as "new" from a U.S. retailer.

I have a preference for x86 processors, that is not a requirement.
I would like to use with a USB keyboard.
It will be used for simple data collection and data will be
transferred to home system primarily via a USB flash drive.

I suspect I've some unrecognized assumptions.
Suggestions please.
TIA


If you want a smartphone but don't want a smartphone, it sounds to me
as if you want a smartphone with no SIM card.


I didn't know that was still possible. A few years ago a local Staples 
had smartphones of one manufacturer [Lenovo ] in 3 flavors - with 
SIM, without SIM, and without possibility of installing a SIM card. The 
last was attractively priced [wasn't sure if that was a promotional 
gimmick or factory seconds]. I bought one of the later.


That convinced me to NEVER consider an Android device for many reasons:
1. The hype at the time was that Android was Linux and thus FOSS.
   *NOT*!
   It was supposed to be "free" in the sense of "free speech".
   There is no logical grounds to not pay for value delivered.
   I was paying for a physical device and should be able to use it.
2. The DCMA was used as specious justification for obstructing OWNERS
   from freely using and modifying their personal property. If a SIM
   card could be eventually installed there would be a possible
   justification for preventing a purchaser from using/modifying the
   device in desired manner.
3. At the time Google had an effective monopoly of "free"[*sic*]
   software. It may have been free of immediate monetary cost, *BUT*
   they required you to yield personally identifiable information to
   have access to "free"[*SIC*] software.


It's possible that this
device will still be able to dial 911: my Galaxy 4 claims to be able
to do that, though understandably it's not something I've tested.
("They" still come out even if you hang up right away.)


*LOL* I've been a beneficiary of that possibility.



If it's being tracked that you're worried about, then put it in
Airplane mode to prevent that. (Unfortunately that stops the FM radio
in the Galaxy from working, but not the music/video players.)


That type of privacy is not a major issue.
Having held a Commercial Radiotelephone Operator's license ~50 years 
ago, I have no particular problem with restricting who can create havoc 
on the airwaves.




And,
of course, you can always keep it turned off when not actually
collecting the data.


No problem. "Airplane mode" and "turning off" extends battery life.
Not aware of any downside.

Re: plutôt keepass2 ou keepassx ?

[Gilles Mocellin]

On dimanche 5 novembre 2017 15:33:34 CET Jean-Marc wrote:
> salut la list,
> 
> Je me demande lequel installer ?
> Keepass2 ou KeepassX ?
> 
> Et vous ?
> 
> Jean-Marc 

Hello,

J'utilise https://keepassxc.org/, un fork de keepassx qui intègre KeepassHTTP 
Server, ce qui permet une intégration avec les navigateurs, via l'extension 
KeePassHTTP connector : https://github.com/smorks/keepasshttp-connector

Disponible sous forme d'AppImage ou snap, exécutable sur toute distrib sans 
prise de tête.
Et aussi, disponible sous Windows version portable ou non, MacOS...

Re: Enfermedades

[remgasis remgasis]

Más bien qué pena de usuario. Pregunta demasiado abstrusa la suya. Si hay
un psicólogo en la lista por favor ...
​

Re: Enfermedades

[tomas gonzalez]

kernel panic.

El 8 de noviembre de 2017, 14:52, Maykel Franco 
escribió:

> Que pena de lista... Ay dios mío.
>
> El 8 nov. 2017 3:45 p. m., "luis godoy" 
> escribió:
>
> Conoces por qué la gente se enferma por lo que la policía llama
> investigaciones sobre algún delito o algo relacionado con alguna
> investigación?
>
> Yo sé algo, falta lo demás.
>
>
>

Re: Enfermedades

[Maykel Franco]

Que pena de lista... Ay dios mío.

El 8 nov. 2017 3:45 p. m., "luis godoy"  escribió:

Conoces por qué la gente se enferma por lo que la policía llama
investigaciones sobre algún delito o algo relacionado con alguna
investigación?

Yo sé algo, falta lo demás.

Re: Nagios in Stretch?

[Sven Hartge]

Charlie Grosvenor  wrote:

> Can somebody explain why packages for Nagios existed in Jessie but have gone 
> from Stretch?

The package nagios3 was removed from Debian completely, because it was
buggy and unmaintained.

https://tracker.debian.org/news/818362

--- Reason ---
ROM; unfixed security uploads, no maintainer upload since 2 years
--

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=845765

The support packages come from other sources and may also work with
other forks of Nagios or are for plugins, one can run via nrpe and query
remotely.

Grüße,
Sven

-- 
Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.

Nagios in Stretch?

[Charlie Grosvenor]

Hello,
Can somebody explain why packages for Nagios existed in Jessie but have gone 
from Stretch?

Is weird as there are support packages just not Nagios itself.

Thanks


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Re: Sync two disks and hot swap

[Michael Stone]

On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 11:49:33AM +0100, Dominik George wrote:

* A server with two hard drives in removable cases
* A backup process writes data to both disks, making up a live backup server
* A third disk is to be kept off-site
* On a ergular basis, I want to hot-swap one of the disks, as in, remove
  one of the two synced disks and replace it with the stale off-site copy,
  and put the now recent copy off-site

I figure that a simple software RAID 1 would do the trick, but it is not
really made for it and would need some complex manual intervention in
order to not break the state on the removed disk.

Any ideas on how to achieve this, or arguments that RAID 1 would indeed
be a good solution?


I'd personally tend to avoid using an md mirror like this, though it can 
be made to work. There are some cases in which you might accidentally 
lose a mirror (e.g., plug the offsite backup in to restore something, 
have it sync with a newer copy unintentionally) and it requires a bit 
more effort to do partial restores (like trying to retrieve one deleted 
file) because of conflicts between the UUIDs on the filesystems as well 
as having to deal with the mirror itself.


Instead, if you just want a disk that has a readable copy of the files, 
you may find that rsync is more straightforward and can be a lot faster 
after the first time if the volume of changes is a small percentage of 
the total.


Mike Stone

Re: Debian Live USB fails; bricks the USB stick

[The Wanderer]

On 2017-11-08 at 11:00, Thomas Schmitt wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Kent West wrote:
>
>> The Yosemite Mac's Disk Utility gives me more info
>> "This disk is not writable and can't be partitioned"
>> that the Write Status is Read Only,
> 
> It really looks like this info comes from the stick's firmware and is
> not fabricated by a software layer of the operating system.

Last time I saw a USB drive insist it was read-only in anything like
this fashion, it was indeed because the firmware had been set that way;
it was the install medium for some Autodesk software, shipped on branded
USB drives just for the additional cachet.

I had that drive because I'd been asked to see if I could find a way to
make it writable. I did indeed track one down, but it's apparently
model-specific, and not super-reliable (in addition to requiring a USB3
port, at least for the models I was looking at); it involves essentially
flashing the firmware of the USB drive, using specialized software
dedicated for the purpose.

I don't know of any software for that purpose that's available for
Linux, and the Windows tools I found (which I'd have to dig up again
from scratch) were not only closed source but also somewhat model- or at
least manufacturer-specific, but if you want to restore this drive to an
operational state this may be an avenue worth pursuing.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw



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Re: Handhelds that conviently run Debian

[David Wright]

On Wed 08 Nov 2017 at 07:50:21 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
> On a regional mailing list I had described what I'm looking for as a
> tablet. That seems to include things that fold.  Although I *DON'T*
> want a "smartphone", that physical form factor is desirable. It must
> be available as "new" from a U.S. retailer.
> 
> I have a preference for x86 processors, that is not a requirement.
> I would like to use with a USB keyboard.
> It will be used for simple data collection and data will be
> transferred to home system primarily via a USB flash drive.
> 
> I suspect I've some unrecognized assumptions.
> Suggestions please.
> TIA

If you want a smartphone but don't want a smartphone, it sounds to me
as if you want a smartphone with no SIM card. It's possible that this
device will still be able to dial 911: my Galaxy 4 claims to be able
to do that, though understandably it's not something I've tested.
("They" still come out even if you hang up right away.)

If it's being tracked that you're worried about, then put it in
Airplane mode to prevent that. (Unfortunately that stops the FM radio
in the Galaxy from working, but not the music/video players.) And,
of course, you can always keep it turned off when not actually
collecting the data.

Cheers,
David.

Re: Debian Live USB fails; bricks the USB stick

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

Kent West wrote:
> The Yosemite Mac's Disk Utility gives me more info
> "This disk is not writable and can't be partitioned"
> that the Write Status is Read Only,

It really looks like this info comes from the stick's firmware and is
not fabricated by a software layer of the operating system.


I looked for the possible reason of EROFS in Linux driver sd.c.
Function sd_read_write_protect_flag() does its best to get a Mode Parameter
Header that preceeds any SCSI mode page reply. Then it interprets the
"Device-Specific Parameter" byte in that 4-byte header.
Standard SBC-2 says in section 6.1.3 that if bit 7 of this byte is set
then the medium is write protected.
I see this test in line 2638 of
  https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/drivers/scsi/sd.c
as
  sdkp->write_prot = ((data.device_specific & 0x80) != 0);

So like with the "No medium" error, it looks like an ill drive.

(I always thought that optical drives are a bit bitchy. But disk devices
 have their own ways to surprise the programmer. I better stay with
 the opticals and in userspace. :))


> It's just really odd that two differently-manufactured/aged sticks went bad
> at the same time, when trying to do the same operation with them,

My best explanation is that copying the 2 GB was more work than they had
to do in the years before.
Others are that misery loves company and misfortune seldom comes alone.

Already yesterday i dd'ed the ISO onto a 4 GB SanDisk Cruzer stick
in order to look for problems with mounted partitions. (None found.)
The stick is still alive and writable.

So debian-live-9.2.0-amd64-cinnamon.iso is not poisonous to all sticks.

I can hardly imagine how the computer should be to blame. It could
possibly fry the stick's controller. But talking it into losing its
medium or making it read-only ?


> Looks like I'll be tossing these sticks.

If you buy a new one, then make a backup before putting the ISO on it:

  dd if=/dev/sdc bs=1M | gzip >new_stick_backup.gz

A virgin stick should yield quite a small .gz file.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: ~ Handhelds that conviently run Debian

[Richard Owlett]

On 11/08/2017 09:12 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:

On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 07:50:21AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:

I have a preference for x86 processors, that is not a requirement.
I would like to use with a USB keyboard.
It will be used for simple data collection and data will be
transferred to home system primarily via a USB flash drive.


A possibly DIY answer is a Raspberry Pi 3, or Zero W, and a suitable
case and battery for it.



I don't fit the mechanical DIY category well.
I want an off-the-shelf product that can be used as recieved.
No real problem doing a custom install.

[no subject]

[max vidocq]

  Bonjour Angelique
La flèche de la croisée du transept, dont la croix culmine à 112,70 mètres, 
remplace celle qui fut détruite par un incendie en 1528. Achevée en 1533, elle 
est raccourcie en 1627 à la suite d' un ouragan. Privée de ses fleurs de lis à 
la Révolution, elle est restaurée en 1851 par Viollet-le-Duc. L' enveloppe de 
plomb, qui gaine le chène de cet ouvrage en charpente, a fait l' objet de deux 
restaurations successives entre 1884 et 1887 en entre 1973 et 1980.
1. Le grand comble de la nef témoigne de l' adaptation de la charpente à la 
double nécessité de résister au vent et de favoriser l' écoulement rapide des 
eaux de pluie sur les toitures.
2. Au début du xllle siècle, mème si la dorure des décors a depuis longtemps 
disparu, on continue d' appeler la flèche le clocher doré.
3. Pierre, bois, métaux sont utiles à l' édification du monument ou l' or et 
les enduits faux marbres ajoutent à la magnificence des décors.
4. Au revers du portail du Sauveur des orgues installées de 1422 à 1429, ne 
subsiste que la tribune en bois sculpté, de style gothique flamboyant.
Et sur cette pierre. Pour bàtir la plus grande église gothique du monde, il 
faut de la pierre de bonne qualité provenant des environs. Pour se prémunir de 
l' humidité du sol et assurer une bonne stabilité, le grès provenance de 
Villers-Bocage s' impose pour les soubassements. Pour l' élévation et la 
sculpture, on choisit un calcaire dans lequel on rencontre parfois des rognons 
de silex. il est extrait des carrières de la vallée de la Selle, sur les 
territoires de Croissy, de Fontaine-Bonneleau et de Doméliers, dont le chapitre 
est seigneur, puis de celles situées sur la Somme, près de Tirancourt, 
accordées aux chanoines en 1234. Ensuite, la mise en oeuvre par les maitres d' 
oeuvre d' Amiens s' avère ingénieuse. Au fur et à mesure du chantier, afin d' 
en réduire le cout et la durée, ils standardisent la taille de la pierre et 
généralisent le travail en série.
   Max


Envoyé à partir d’Outlook

Re: ~ Handhelds that conviently run Debian

[Jonathan Dowland]

On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 07:50:21AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:

I have a preference for x86 processors, that is not a requirement.
I would like to use with a USB keyboard.
It will be used for simple data collection and data will be 
transferred to home system primarily via a USB flash drive.


A possibly DIY answer is a Raspberry Pi 3, or Zero W, and a suitable
case and battery for it.

--

⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.

Re: Debian Live USB fails; bricks the USB stick

[Kent West]

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 8:49 AM, Kent West  wrote:

>
> The somewhat-still-working stick, when inserted into the iMac, brings up a
> pop-up window that says "The disk you inserted was not readable by this
> computer. Ignore/Eject". Disk Utility sees it as an "Unknown" disk2s2 426KB
> external drive. But it lets me try to Erase it, although that results in an
> error saying "Couldn't modify partition map." I tried all four formatting
> options (Mac OS Extended Journaled, Mac OS Extended Case-sensitive
> Journaled, ExFAT, MS-DOS (FAT)). I tried tinkering with the Security
> Options.
>
> If it had been one stick, I would just assume the stick had gone bad. But
> two sticks, at the same time, happening by the same process, sure seems
> suspicious.
>


I just plugged the somewhat-still-working stick into a different iMac; the
first one was running Sierra; this one is running Yosemite. The Yosemite
Mac's Disk Utility gives me more info (it's stupid to me that the newer the
OS, the less informative the tools, as a trend).

It actually sees the whole 4.03 GB stick, not just the "disk2s2" slice, but
it won't let me to anything to it, saying "This disk is not writable and
can't be partitioned" It says S.M.A.R.T. is not supported, that the Write
Status is Read Only, that the Partition Map Scheme is Master Boot Record,
and that it's USB Flash Media.

I think y'all are right about the two sticks being kicked into "last resort
mode", where the internal Read-only switch is triggered (I've been unable
to find an external switch).

It's just really odd that two differently-manufactured/aged sticks went bad
at the same time, when trying to do the same operation with them, on a good
Dell box that's been running Debian for 4 years without any glitches
whatsoever.


>
> Just to round out the OSes, I'll go see if I can find a Windows machine.
>


Yep, Windows 10 Disk Manager can't see the one as anything more than
existing, and can see the other one only as Read-Only, with no options to
do anything with it. Looks like I'll be tossing these sticks.



-- 
Kent West<")))><
Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com

Re: Ethernet card locking up when acting as virtual bridge

[Christian Seiler]

Am 2017-11-08 11:54, schrieb Andrew Wood:

My configuration is below. Initially it worked fine, except that once
in a while the card would seemingly 'lock up' i.e no VMs could get
network access but unplugging and replugging the Cat 5 cable fixed it.

Recently however the issue has been occuring more and more, sometimes
some VMs can get network access and not others. Ive tried swapping the
card for an identical model but its made no difference. Im not sure if
it something to do with my config (maybe the made up MAC addresses?)
or if its a bug in the cards driver or firmware.

Config is below eth0 is the hosts Realtek port, enp3s0 is the 3Com
used for the VMs

iface br1 inet dhcp


No idea if this is the problem or not, but you are using DHCP for the
bridge interface. Maybe the DHCP client's management of the bridge
interface interferes with this? (DHCP clients like to 'take over' an
interface and may set flags that don't work properly.) I don't think
I've ever used a DHCP client on a bridge before other than for short
testing purposes.

Is is possible for you to try a static IP on this interface and see
if that solves your problem?

If that doesn't help:

 - The Linux bridge interface will always use the numerically lowest
   (in a Big-Endian sense) MAC address that's configured as the MAC
   address for the bridge. If you're doing virtualization, you
   should stick to MAC addresses that are very high for this reason,
   so that the network card's own address always wins out. Many
   virtualization tools ensure that the MAC addresses they generate
   start with 0xfe for this reason. (This might also confuse DHCP
   clients btw. if the MAC address of the interface changes behind
   their back.)

 - When the problem occurs: do the VMs at least see each other? If
   that doesn't even work, your problem isn't your network card,
   but something else.

 - Anything in the kernel log?
   If not, is there maybe a debug option for your specific network
   driver you could enable so that something is added to the logs?

 - Try running 'ip l' and 'ip a' both when the problem occurs and
   when it doesn't occur and see if there's any difference in the
   output of either of these.

 - You said that unplugging and replugging the cable made it work
   again - maybe the link sensing between your network card and the
   switch / whatever you have on the other side is broken for some
   reason? Could you try to force the right speed / duplex settings
   via ethtool and see if that helps?

 - Maybe your network card supports various offloading features
   (such as TCP checksums) but when used as a switch they don't
   always work properly - you could try disabling them (also via
   ethtool, see the manpage).

 - You said that you've tried replacing the network card - have you
   tried replacing the cable? I've had some weird experiences with
   broken network cables. (For example, very strange intermittent
   packet loss in some instances, which cause very weird effects in
   higher-level protocols.)

Regards,
Christian

Re: Debian Live USB fails; bricks the USB stick

[Kent West]

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:41 AM, Thomas Schmitt  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Felix Miata wrote:
>
>
> > Also, why are this/these stick(s) getting flip-flopped between sdd and
> sdc?
>
> That's because Kent plugged them in at the same time, i guess.
> sdc is the clearly ill one, sdd is the one which is at least readable.
>

Correct.



>
>
> Kent West wrote:
> > > > dd: failed to open '/dev/sdd': Read-only file system
>
> i wrote:
> > > Why does dd talk of filesystems ?
>
> Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > Because the only error number usable for "this thing is read-only" in
> > POSIX is EROFS, so that's what a read-only block device reports.
> > ...
> > Anyway, if this is a pendrive or some other flash-based media, it most
> > often means it is in the fail-safe last-resort mode (switched to
> > read-only access so that you can try to salvage some data off it).
>
> Valid theory. One can read this in the web about SanDisk devices.
>
> But i am reluctant to declare two out of two USB sticks ill.
> For now i still deem it possible that something like udev decided to
> block access because of the data it saw on the device.
>


That's kind of what I thought. One stick? Sure, likely. Two sticks?
Considerably less likely. But possible.



> The decisive experiments would be to try writing to the sdd stick on
> some other operating system with very different software between kernel
> and userland. (Best would be an old GNU/Linux without any systemd/udev.)
>

Good idea. Pretty obvious idea; I don't know what I hadn't already tried
that.

I just plugged the "can't see it at all anymore" stick into an iMac. Does
not show up on Desktop; does not show up in Disk Utility; "dmesg" doesn't
seem to mention it, unless it's in this single line - "USBMSC Identifier
(non-unique): AA4011200010511 0x5dc 0xa790 0x1100, 2".

The somewhat-still-working stick, when inserted into the iMac, brings up a
pop-up window that says "The disk you inserted was not readable by this
computer. Ignore/Eject". Disk Utility sees it as an "Unknown" disk2s2 426KB
external drive. But it lets me try to Erase it, although that results in an
error saying "Couldn't modify partition map." I tried all four formatting
options (Mac OS Extended Journaled, Mac OS Extended Case-sensitive
Journaled, ExFAT, MS-DOS (FAT)). I tried tinkering with the Security
Options.

If it had been one stick, I would just assume the stick had gone bad. But
two sticks, at the same time, happening by the same process, sure seems
suspicious.

Just to round out the OSes, I'll go see if I can find a Windows machine.

I

>
> Although i really do not believe in the theory that the ISO can kill
> the USB stick, i leave the decision to Kent whether he wants to risk
> a third stick (preferrably a young one) for experiments.
>


If I had a third one handy, I probably would. But without running to
Wal-Mart, or waiting a day or three for an on-line order, I'm currently out
of sticks. I'm sure I can come up with one in a day or few, and scrunching
my visage up in concern that I'm going to waste another stick I'm sure I'll
experiment with it, but at the moment, these two are all I have.

Thanks for everyone's input!


>
> Have a nice day :)
>
> Thomas
>
>


-- 
Kent West<")))><
Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com

Re: Handhelds that conviently run Debian

[Richard Owlett]

On 11/08/2017 08:15 AM, Dan Ritter wrote:

On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 07:50:21AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:

On a regional mailing list I had described what I'm looking for as a tablet.
That seems to include things that fold.  Although I *DON'T* want a
"smartphone", that physical form factor is desirable. It must be available
as "new" from a U.S. retailer.

I have a preference for x86 processors, that is not a requirement.
I would like to use with a USB keyboard.
It will be used for simple data collection and data will be transferred to
home system primarily via a USB flash drive.

I suspect I've some unrecognized assumptions.
Suggestions please.


You might be looking for a palmtop or a netbook. A palmtop is an
ultra-mini laptop with a keyboard, screen, storage and I/O. A
netbook is simply a small, low-powered laptop.



I'm not looking for anything with a keyboard as part of the unit.
The possibility for using a separate full size USB connected keyboard is 
desirable.

Think Palm Pilot updated to current technology.

Thank you.

Enfermedades

[luis godoy]

Conoces por qué la gente se enferma por lo que la policía llama
investigaciones sobre algún delito o algo relacionado con alguna
investigación?

Yo sé algo, falta lo demás.

Re: Handhelds that conviently run Debian

[Dan Ritter]

On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 07:50:21AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On a regional mailing list I had described what I'm looking for as a tablet.
> That seems to include things that fold.  Although I *DON'T* want a
> "smartphone", that physical form factor is desirable. It must be available
> as "new" from a U.S. retailer.
> 
> I have a preference for x86 processors, that is not a requirement.
> I would like to use with a USB keyboard.
> It will be used for simple data collection and data will be transferred to
> home system primarily via a USB flash drive.
> 
> I suspect I've some unrecognized assumptions.
> Suggestions please.

You might be looking for a palmtop or a netbook. A palmtop is an
ultra-mini laptop with a keyboard, screen, storage and I/O. A
netbook is simply a small, low-powered laptop.

https://medium.com/@tomac/qpd-pocket-7-the-return-of-the-hacker-netbook-fe9be1b02ebf

and

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gemini-pda-android-linux-keyboard-mobile-device-phone#/

describe current Linux-running palmtops.

For a netbook, you can get a Chromebook (frequently under $250)
and read the various install guides to get Debian on instead of
the Chrome Linux system.

-dsr-

Re: Logiciel de synchronisation automatisé

[Thierry Despeyroux]

il y a seafile, genre dropbox...

Thierry

Le Wed, 8 Nov 2017 09:11:34 +0100,
Benoit B  a écrit :

> Bonjour,
> 
> 
> Comment détecter une modification dans un système de fichier pour
> utiliser un logiciel comme rsync ?
> Je recherche un logiciel qui surveille les répertoires indiqués.
> Exemple :
> Je veux surveiller
> /home/utilisateur/Office
> /home/utilisateur/truc
> /home/utilisateur/much/bidule
> 
> Dès qu'une modification est faite sur un fichier ou un sous répertoire
> de Office, truc, bidule, cette modification est synchronisée
> automatiquement autre part.
> Exemple :
> /ptDeMontage/backup/Office
> /ptDeMontage/backup/truc
> /ptDeMontage/backup/much/bidule
> Aura toujours le même contenu que
> /home/utilisateur/Office
> /home/utilisateur/truc
> /home/utilisateur/much/bidule
> 
> Se ça existe, je préférerais un logiciel tout fait plutôt que devoir
> écrire un script avec rsync qu'il faudra encore déclencher à
> intervalle régulier ...
> 
> Merci d'avance
> 
> Benoit
> 

Handhelds that conviently run Debian

[Richard Owlett]

On a regional mailing list I had described what I'm looking for as a 
tablet. That seems to include things that fold.  Although I *DON'T* want 
a "smartphone", that physical form factor is desirable. It must be 
available as "new" from a U.S. retailer.


I have a preference for x86 processors, that is not a requirement.
I would like to use with a USB keyboard.
It will be used for simple data collection and data will be transferred 
to home system primarily via a USB flash drive.


I suspect I've some unrecognized assumptions.
Suggestions please.
TIA

Re: [HS] Spoofing avis

[Haricophile]

Le Wed, 8 Nov 2017 11:11:00 +0100,
Vincent Lefevre  a écrit :

> On 2017-11-06 20:32:10 +0100, Christophe wrote:
> > Alors oui *Attention* , je tiens à mettre en garde également sur le
> > fait que j'ai reçu des mails très surprenants sur une boite mail
> > que j'utilise exclusivement pour les échanges administratifs avec
> > Free (Jamais diffusée autre part qu'au service client de chez Free,
> > sur un nom de domaine que je possède et donc pas une adresse
> > @free.fr).  
> 
> Idem pour moi avec mon adresse de contact SFR. Mails se présentant
> comme "SFR Fidélité" et "SFR Cadeau" avec une adresse @orange.fr
> et provenant des serveurs d'Orange. Outre cette adresse e-mail de
> contact, ils connaissaient mon prénom et mon nom.

Il y a d'une part des robots qui collectent tout et n'importe quoi,
ceux qui passent en brute-force, ou plutôt maintenant utilisent
des outils de corrélation, d'autre par des bases de données qui se
font pirater d'où l'intérêt de limiter un maximum les informations
et le temps de garde de ces informations contenues dans les bases
accessibles par internet comme le recommande la CNIL. On ne peut rien
faire concernant les grosses boites souvent psychorigides, mais déjà
agir en ce sens à titre personnel dans le design des SI et rappeler en
permanence autour de soi que tout ce qui est accessible physiquement
peut potentiellement être accédé, la sécurité absolue n'existant pas.
Donc agir en conséquence pour limiter la casse.

Ceci dit au final, une adresse mail ça sert à communiquer avec le
monde... communiquer sans communiquer...
-- 
haricoph...@aranha.fr 

Re: Opening Intellicast Causes Firefox to close

[Stephen P. Molnar]

On 11/07/2017 07:40 PM, cgi...@surfnaked.ca wrote:

Quoting "Stephen P. Molnar" :


On 11/07/2017 01:50 PM, Will Mengarini wrote:


* Stephen P Molnar  [17-11/07=Tu 07:20 -0500]:


I am running Firefox ESR 52.4.0 (64 bit) on my [up-to-date
Stretch platform.  When] I attempt opening Intellicast,
either with Speeddial or tying the URL, Firefox crashes.

This just started happening yesterday
and there are no warnings or errors.


I'm not aware of any bank wise enough to offer an
HTML 1.0 interface that can be browsed by Lynx.


Not that they aren't wise enough, but their sites wouldn't be pretty 
enough.  Gotta have bling, y'know.



I have the impression that website/browser capabilities are
now far beyond being deterministic or even vaguely testable.


Complexity is a weapon.  (The KISS principle is a countermeasure.)


When the heavy hand of government is starting to look preferable
to market forces, we're in truly-late-stage capitalism.

(1) I am not a crook.
(2) America does not torture.
(3) Don't be evil.


I appreciate the replies.

I'm probably going to have to change browsers, although I like the 
way the Firefox handles Speeddial.


Have you tried Seamonkey?  It's a variant that I switched to when 
Firefox release 29 changed its user interface in ways I didn't like.  
Does the job for me.


And I make sure to shut it down when I'm finished surfing the web.

Good suggestion.  I looked in the Stretch distribution a couple of days 
ago, but, of course, Seamonkey had been removed.


I downloaded and compiled the src from The Seamonkey Project. Compiling 
the src reminded me of years ago when I used to compile the Linux kernel 
- an agonizingly long procedure, but it finally finished.  The browser 
still crashed when loading www,distrowatch.com!!!


--
Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy set
www.molecular-modeling.net  Stochastic and multivariate
(614)312-7528 (c)
Skype: smolnar1

Re: [HS] Spoofing avis

[Haricophile]

Le Wed, 8 Nov 2017 11:11:00 +0100,
Vincent Lefevre  a écrit :

> Idem pour moi avec mon adresse de contact SFR. Mails se présentant
> comme "SFR Fidélité" et "SFR Cadeau" avec une adresse @orange.fr
> et provenant des serveurs d'Orange. Outre cette adresse e-mail de
> contact, ils connaissaient mon prénom et mon nom.
> 

J'oubliais : Ne pas non plus oublier que chez Google Microsoft and Cie
et peut-être bien aussi chez Orange ou SFR (je ne me suis pas penché
sur le sujet) à priori vos mails non chiffrés sont lu par des robots
et des informations collectées sont revendues.

 Pour Fessebouc je mets mon jocker puisque c'est carrément l'objet
 social de la boite : «fabriquer» de l'information personnelle et de
 la revendre, depuis qu'à l'université il a démarré en amateur son
 activité en piquant et revendant les informations personnelles de ses
 petits camarades. C'est devenu quelqu'un de bien puisque il est très
 riche (un peu soutenu par la NSA et divers intérêts  gouvernementaux
 et privés qui ont indirectement ou directement contribué à sa réussite
 bien content de se planquer sans risque derrière un petit malfrat sans
 scrupule). 


-- 
haricoph...@aranha.fr 

Re: Logiciel de synchronisation automatisé

[JF Straeten]

Lo,

On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 12:11:45PM +0100, Benoit B wrote:

[...]
> Merci à vous deux pour lsyncd...

Tu pourrais aussi utiliser glusterfs pour ce cas de figure...

Hih,


-- 

JFS.

Re: Logiciel de synchronisation automatisé

[Benoit B]

Ahhh cool

Merci à vous deux pour lsyncd...

En effet je pataugeais déjà avec mon script ! ;)

--
Benoit



Le 8 novembre 2017 à 09:55, Gabriel Moreau
 a écrit :
> lsyncd est l'outil qu'il faut. Cela fait du RAID1 logiciel asynchrone en cas
> de modif. Cela peut faire exactement ce que tu veux.
>
>  https://github.com/axkibe/lsyncd
>
> Pas la peine de ré-inventer la roue ;-)
>
> gaby
> --
> Gabriel Moreau - IR CNRShttp://www.legi.grenoble-inp.fr
> LEGI (UMR 5519) Laboratoire des Ecoulements Geophysiques et Industriels
> Domaine Universitaire, CS 40700, 38041 Grenoble Cedex 9, France
> mailto:gabriel.mor...@legi.grenoble-inp.fr  tel:+33.476.825.015
>

Re: Logiciel de synchronisation automatisé

[Benoit B]

Super merci

Encore une petite question,

j'ai fais un test ainsi

while inotifywait --format "%f %e"  -r --fromfile mesFichiers.txt ; do
rsync -a testsrc/ testcible/  ; done


Maintenant comment récupérer la sortie de inotifywait (%f le nom du
fichier modifié) pour le donner en paramètre à  rsync ?

Je n'ai pas trouvé d'exemple sur le net.

Merci d'avance.

--
Benoit


Le 8 novembre 2017 à 09:33, chris navas  a écrit :
> bonjour Benoit,
>
> fouille du coté de inotify avec rsync ;)
>
>
> Belle journée,
>
> Chris.
>
>
> Le 8 novembre 2017 à 09:11, Benoit B  a écrit :
>>
>> Bonjour,
>>
>>
>> Comment détecter une modification dans un système de fichier pour
>> utiliser un logiciel comme rsync ?
>> Je recherche un logiciel qui surveille les répertoires indiqués.
>> Exemple :
>> Je veux surveiller
>> /home/utilisateur/Office
>> /home/utilisateur/truc
>> /home/utilisateur/much/bidule
>>
>> Dès qu'une modification est faite sur un fichier ou un sous répertoire
>> de Office, truc, bidule, cette modification est synchronisée
>> automatiquement autre part.
>> Exemple :
>> /ptDeMontage/backup/Office
>> /ptDeMontage/backup/truc
>> /ptDeMontage/backup/much/bidule
>> Aura toujours le même contenu que
>> /home/utilisateur/Office
>> /home/utilisateur/truc
>> /home/utilisateur/much/bidule
>>
>> Se ça existe, je préférerais un logiciel tout fait plutôt que devoir
>> écrire un script avec rsync qu'il faudra encore déclencher à
>> intervalle régulier ...
>>
>> Merci d'avance
>>
>> Benoit
>>
>>
>

Sync two disks and hot swap

[Dominik George]

Hi,

I have the following scenario:

 * A server with two hard drives in removable cases
 * A backup process writes data to both disks, making up a live backup server
 * A third disk is to be kept off-site
 * On a ergular basis, I want to hot-swap one of the disks, as in, remove
   one of the two synced disks and replace it with the stale off-site copy,
   and put the now recent copy off-site

I figure that a simple software RAID 1 would do the trick, but it is not
really made for it and would need some complex manual intervention in
order to not break the state on the removed disk.

Any ideas on how to achieve this, or arguments that RAID 1 would indeed
be a good solution?

Cheers,
Nik



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Ethernet card locking up when acting as virtual bridge

[Andrew Wood]

Im trying to use a 3Com Etherlink Model 3C905C to provide network access for 
some virtual machines running under QEMU.
The machine has a Realtek Gigabit Ethernet controller on the motherboard which 
I use solely for the hosts network interface. I've added a 3Com PCI card to act 
as the interface solely for the VMs allowing them to have IPs on the real 
network rather than using QEMUs NAT.
My configuration is below. Initially it worked fine, except that once in a 
while the card would seemingly 'lock up' i.e no VMs could get network access 
but unplugging and replugging the Cat 5 cable fixed it.
Recently however the issue has been occuring more and more, sometimes some VMs 
can get network access and not others. Ive tried swapping the card for an 
identical model but its made no difference. Im not sure if it something to do 
with my config (maybe the made up MAC addresses?) or if its a bug in the cards 
driver or firmware.
Config is below eth0 is the hosts Realtek port, enp3s0 is the 3Com used for the 
VMs
The host OS is StretchAm I doing something wrong or is this a bug?
Many thanks
==/etc/network/interfaces:
# The loopback network interfaceauto loiface lo inet loopback



auto eth0iface eth0 inet static        address 192.168.253.201        netmask 
255.255.255.0        broadcast 192.168.253.255        dns-nameservers 
192.168.253.254        up /sbin/route add default gw 192.168.253.254 dev eth0


auto enp3s0auto br1iface br1 inet dhcp        bridge_ports enp3s0        
bridge_stp off        bridge_fd 0        bridge_maxwait 0==

The script I use to start QEMU contains lines like this for each VM:
#host debian9test vnc on port 5902, give it virtual hub port br1p1tunctl -u 
root -t br1p1 #create TAP device br1p1brctl addif br1 br1p1 #add br1p1 as a 
port on bridge br1kvm -hda /var/qemuvm/debian9test.img  -m 1024 -usb \-net 
nic,macaddr=52:54:00:00:00:02 -net tap,ifname=br1p1 -vnc 192.168.253.201:2 &

#host bitsafe vnc on port 5904, give it virtual hub port br1p2tunctl -u root -t 
br1p2  #create TAP device br1p2brctl addif br1 br1p2  # add br1p2 as a port on 
bridge br1kvm -hda /dev/disk/by-id/ata-TOSHIBA_HDWJ110_37K1P2AET \-hdb 
/dev/disk/by-id/ata-TOSHIBA_HDWJ110_37UNTL5IT \-m 1024 -usb -net 
nic,macaddr=52:54:00:00:00:04  \-net tap,ifname=br1p2 -vnc 192.168.253.201:4 &

#host gatekeeper (RADIUS) vnc on port 5905, give it virtual hub port 
br1p3tunctl -u root -t br1p3 #create TAP device br1p3brctl addif br1 br1p3 #add 
br1p3 as a port on bridge br1kvm -hda /var/qemuvm/debian-gatekeeper.img \-m 
1024 -usb -net nic,macaddr=52:54:00:00:00:05 \-net tap,ifname=br1p3 -vnc 
192.168.253.201:5 &

==Output from ifconfig:
br1: flags=4163  mtu 1500        inet 
192.168.253.80  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast 192.168.253.255        inet6 
fe80::250:daff:fe3b:9a4d  prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x20        ether 
00:50:da:3b:9a:4d  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)        RX packets 22633  bytes 
1224397 (1.1 MiB)        RX errors 0  dropped 9  overruns 0  frame 0        TX 
packets 159  bytes 18064 (17.6 KiB)        TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  
carrier 0  collisions 0
br1p1: flags=4163  mtu 1500        ether 
76:73:87:89:3c:f1  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)        RX packets 1391  bytes 
97413 (95.1 KiB)        RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0        TX 
packets 22130  bytes 1514391 (1.4 MiB)        TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0 
 carrier 0  collisions 0
br1p2: flags=4163  mtu 1500        ether 
82:e0:2d:0d:d8:26  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)        RX packets 4416  bytes 
337769 (329.8 KiB)        RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0        TX 
packets 25436  bytes 1728395 (1.6 MiB)        TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0 
 carrier 0  collisions 0
br1p3: flags=4163  mtu 1500        ether 
26:67:8d:04:5c:b9  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)        RX packets 329  bytes 
38930 (38.0 KiB)        RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0        TX 
packets 22583  bytes 1553522 (1.4 MiB)        TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0 
 carrier 0  collisions 0
enp3s0: flags=4163  mtu 1500        ether 
00:50:da:3b:9a:4d  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)        RX packets 27632  bytes 
2188088 (2.0 MiB)        RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0        TX 
packets 6303  bytes 493295 (481.7 KiB)        TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0 
 carrier 0  collisions 0        device interrupt 20  base 0x5000
eth0: flags=4163  mtu 1500        inet 
192.168.253.201  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast 192.168.253.255        inet6 
fe80::21f:d0ff:fe08:8bc6  prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x20        ether 
00:1f:d0:08:8b:c6  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)        RX packets 22949  bytes 
20198348 (19.2 MiB)        RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0        
TX packets 24046  bytes 

Re: Logiciel de synchronisation automatisé

[G2PC]

Le 08/11/2017 à 10:23, daniel huhardeaux a écrit :
> Le 08/11/2017 à 09:26, Belaïd a écrit :
>> Bonjour,
>>
>> Pour la surveillance de répertoires / fichies avec déclenchement de
>> commande,  sans hésitation je te propose inotify/incron inclut dans
>> le noyau
> +1
>>
>> Le mercredi 8 novembre 2017, Benoit B > > a écrit :
>>
>>     Bonjour,
>>
>>
>>     Comment détecter une modification dans un système de fichier pour
>>     utiliser un logiciel comme rsync ?
>>     Je recherche un logiciel qui surveille les répertoires indiqués.
>>     Exemple :
>>     Je veux surveiller
>>     /home/utilisateur/Office
>>     /home/utilisateur/truc
>>     /home/utilisateur/much/bidule
>>
>>     Dès qu'une modification est faite sur un fichier ou un sous
>> répertoire
>>     de Office, truc, bidule, cette modification est synchronisée
>>     automatiquement autre part.
>>     Exemple :
>>     /ptDeMontage/backup/Office
>>     /ptDeMontage/backup/truc
>>     /ptDeMontage/backup/much/bidule
>>     Aura toujours le même contenu que
>>     /home/utilisateur/Office
>>     /home/utilisateur/truc
>>     /home/utilisateur/much/bidule
>>
>>     Se ça existe, je préférerais un logiciel tout fait plutôt que devoir
>>     écrire un script avec rsync qu'il faudra encore déclencher à
>>     intervalle régulier ...
>>
>>     Merci d'avance
>>
>>     Benoit
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> < Belaid >
>

A ceux qui s'y connaissent bien, quel est la différence entre inotify et
un logiciel comme DejaDup ?

Deja dup :
https://www.visionduweb.eu/wiki/index.php?title=Sauvegarder_et_reinstaller_Linux_Mint_Sarah#Sauvegarder_le_.2Fhome_de_votre_utilisateur_avec_Deja_Dup

Re: [HS] Spoofing avis

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2017-11-06 19:54:03 +0100, andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote:
> Quelle est l'adresse du lien à cliquer ?
> (tu as bien fait de ne pas cliquer, car le lien possède une extension
> permettant de savoir que c'est toi qui a cliqué avec des conséquences).

Ça peut être aussi une page tentant d'exploiter des failles de
sécurité de certains navigateurs.

> Quel est le but d'un tel mail ? :
> Capter ton login + mot de passe ?  mais à quelle fin...

Voire d'autres informations personnelles en vue d'une usurpation
d'identité?

https://www.courdecassation.fr/jurisprudence_2/chambre_commerciale_574/1327_25_37926.html

-- 
Vincent Lefèvre  - Web: 
100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: 
Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)

Re: [HS] Spoofing avis

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2017-11-06 20:32:10 +0100, Christophe wrote:
> Alors oui *Attention* , je tiens à mettre en garde également sur le fait que
> j'ai reçu des mails très surprenants sur une boite mail que j'utilise
> exclusivement pour les échanges administratifs avec Free
> (Jamais diffusée autre part qu'au service client de chez Free, sur un nom de
> domaine que je possède et donc pas une adresse @free.fr).

Idem pour moi avec mon adresse de contact SFR. Mails se présentant
comme "SFR Fidélité" et "SFR Cadeau" avec une adresse @orange.fr
et provenant des serveurs d'Orange. Outre cette adresse e-mail de
contact, ils connaissaient mon prénom et mon nom.

-- 
Vincent Lefèvre  - Web: 
100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: 
Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)

Re: Logiciel de synchronisation automatisé

[daniel huhardeaux]

Le 08/11/2017 à 09:26, Belaïd a écrit :

Bonjour,

Pour la surveillance de répertoires / fichies avec déclenchement de 
commande,  sans hésitation je te propose inotify/incron inclut dans le 
noyau

+1


Le mercredi 8 novembre 2017, Benoit B > a écrit :


Bonjour,


Comment détecter une modification dans un système de fichier pour
utiliser un logiciel comme rsync ?
Je recherche un logiciel qui surveille les répertoires indiqués.
Exemple :
Je veux surveiller
/home/utilisateur/Office
/home/utilisateur/truc
/home/utilisateur/much/bidule

Dès qu'une modification est faite sur un fichier ou un sous répertoire
de Office, truc, bidule, cette modification est synchronisée
automatiquement autre part.
Exemple :
/ptDeMontage/backup/Office
/ptDeMontage/backup/truc
/ptDeMontage/backup/much/bidule
Aura toujours le même contenu que
/home/utilisateur/Office
/home/utilisateur/truc
/home/utilisateur/much/bidule

Se ça existe, je préférerais un logiciel tout fait plutôt que devoir
écrire un script avec rsync qu'il faudra encore déclencher à
intervalle régulier ...

Merci d'avance

Benoit



--
< Belaid >

Re: Logiciel de synchronisation automatisé

[Gabriel Moreau]

lsyncd est l'outil qu'il faut. Cela fait du RAID1 logiciel asynchrone en 
cas de modif. Cela peut faire exactement ce que tu veux.


 https://github.com/axkibe/lsyncd

Pas la peine de ré-inventer la roue ;-)

gaby
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LEGI (UMR 5519) Laboratoire des Ecoulements Geophysiques et Industriels
Domaine Universitaire, CS 40700, 38041 Grenoble Cedex 9, France
mailto:gabriel.mor...@legi.grenoble-inp.fr  tel:+33.476.825.015

Re: Logiciel de synchronisation automatisé

[luc schimpf]

  
  
Bonjour,
je fais ça avec lsyncd (package lsyncd) un daemon qui utilise
  inotify et rsync avec un fichier de conf.



Le 08/11/2017 à 09:26, Belaïd a écrit :

Bonjour, 
  
  
  Pour la surveillance de répertoires / fichies avec
déclenchement de commande,  sans hésitation je te propose
inotify/incron inclut dans le noyau

Le mercredi 8 novembre 2017, Benoit B 
a écrit :
Bonjour,
  
  
  Comment détecter une modification dans un système de fichier
  pour
  utiliser un logiciel comme rsync ?
  Je recherche un logiciel qui surveille les répertoires
  indiqués.
  Exemple :
  Je veux surveiller
  /home/utilisateur/Office
  /home/utilisateur/truc
  /home/utilisateur/much/bidule
  
  Dès qu'une modification est faite sur un fichier ou un sous
  répertoire
  de Office, truc, bidule, cette modification est synchronisée
  automatiquement autre part.
  Exemple :
  /ptDeMontage/backup/Office
  /ptDeMontage/backup/truc
  /ptDeMontage/backup/much/bidule
  Aura toujours le même contenu que
  /home/utilisateur/Office
  /home/utilisateur/truc
  /home/utilisateur/much/bidule
  
  Se ça existe, je préférerais un logiciel tout fait plutôt que
  devoir
  écrire un script avec rsync qu'il faudra encore déclencher à
  intervalle régulier ...
  
  Merci d'avance
  
  Benoit
  

  
  
  
  -- 
  < Belaid >


  

Re: Demande avis processseur AMD E2-9000e

[Pierre L.]

Salut Benoit, petite coquille, ce mail n'était apparemment pas adressé à
la liste :p
Pas de souci, je relance au bon endroit ;)
->

Si ton critère premier est la performance énergétique, un TDP 6w est
un bon choix.
Si tu recherches un compromis TDP/puissance boff
Si ton critère premier est la puissance, ce n'est pas un bon choix.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=AMD+E2-9000e=3048

Ici tu peux faire des tris par critères, ex : le TDP,
Par exemple pour un w de plus à dissiper (et donc gaspillé et pompé
sur la batterie du portable) l'Intel Core i7-7Y75 @ 1.30GHz offre plus
de puissance
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/power_performance.html

Chez AMD un wat de moins à dissiper (5w TDP)
A10 Micro-6700T APU
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+A10+Micro-6700T+APU=2520
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/power_performance.html#id3

Par exemple un Intel i3 (TDP: 15 W)
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-7100U+%40+2.40GHz=2879


Je n'ai pas vérifié si ce sont des processeurs pour portable, mais
c'est en jouant avec ce genre de liste de benchmark qu'on peut
facilement évaluer un processeur.

Bonne recherche

--
Benoit




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Re: Logiciel de synchronisation automatisé

[chris navas]

bonjour Benoit,

fouille du coté de inotify avec rsync ;)


Belle journée,

Chris.


Le 8 novembre 2017 à 09:11, Benoit B  a écrit :

> Bonjour,
>
>
> Comment détecter une modification dans un système de fichier pour
> utiliser un logiciel comme rsync ?
> Je recherche un logiciel qui surveille les répertoires indiqués.
> Exemple :
> Je veux surveiller
> /home/utilisateur/Office
> /home/utilisateur/truc
> /home/utilisateur/much/bidule
>
> Dès qu'une modification est faite sur un fichier ou un sous répertoire
> de Office, truc, bidule, cette modification est synchronisée
> automatiquement autre part.
> Exemple :
> /ptDeMontage/backup/Office
> /ptDeMontage/backup/truc
> /ptDeMontage/backup/much/bidule
> Aura toujours le même contenu que
> /home/utilisateur/Office
> /home/utilisateur/truc
> /home/utilisateur/much/bidule
>
> Se ça existe, je préférerais un logiciel tout fait plutôt que devoir
> écrire un script avec rsync qu'il faudra encore déclencher à
> intervalle régulier ...
>
> Merci d'avance
>
> Benoit
>
>
>

Re: Debian Live USB fails; bricks the USB stick

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

Felix Miata wrote:
> Don't we know it was a GPT disk to start with? If no iso ever got a chance to
> finish writing all the way out to end of disk, the backup/reserve/secondary
> partitioning at end of disk would still report a "filesystem" exists,

The backup GPT of the old stick content could indeed have the read-only
bit set in the flags word of the partition entry.
But that backup would first have to be activated by moving it to the
normal position of the GPT near the start of the drive.

In general the partition table should not keep dd from writing to the
device file of the whole drive.
Further it was possible to put the ISO onto the stick by help of dd,
when the main GPT would have been still present and valid.


> Also, why are this/these stick(s) getting flip-flopped between sdd and sdc?

That's because Kent plugged them in at the same time, i guess.
sdc is the clearly ill one, sdd is the one which is at least readable.


Kent West wrote:
> > > dd: failed to open '/dev/sdd': Read-only file system

i wrote:
> > Why does dd talk of filesystems ?

Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> Because the only error number usable for "this thing is read-only" in
> POSIX is EROFS, so that's what a read-only block device reports.
> ...
> Anyway, if this is a pendrive or some other flash-based media, it most
> often means it is in the fail-safe last-resort mode (switched to
> read-only access so that you can try to salvage some data off it).

Valid theory. One can read this in the web about SanDisk devices.

But i am reluctant to declare two out of two USB sticks ill.
For now i still deem it possible that something like udev decided to
block access because of the data it saw on the device.

The decisive experiments would be to try writing to the sdd stick on
some other operating system with very different software between kernel
and userland. (Best would be an old GNU/Linux without any systemd/udev.)

Although i really do not believe in the theory that the ISO can kill
the USB stick, i leave the decision to Kent whether he wants to risk
a third stick (preferrably a young one) for experiments.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: Iceweasel woes

[tomas]

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> The Internet is like a big city - there are lots of bright lights
> and excitement, but also dark alleys down which the unwary get
> mugged.

with the difference that on the internet, it's the "bright lights"
where you get systematically mugged. Some of the dark alleys are
safe, some not.

Cheers
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Re: Logiciel de synchronisation automatisé

[Belaïd]

Bonjour,

Pour la surveillance de répertoires / fichies avec déclenchement de
commande,  sans hésitation je te propose inotify/incron inclut dans le noyau

Le mercredi 8 novembre 2017, Benoit B  a écrit :

> Bonjour,
>
>
> Comment détecter une modification dans un système de fichier pour
> utiliser un logiciel comme rsync ?
> Je recherche un logiciel qui surveille les répertoires indiqués.
> Exemple :
> Je veux surveiller
> /home/utilisateur/Office
> /home/utilisateur/truc
> /home/utilisateur/much/bidule
>
> Dès qu'une modification est faite sur un fichier ou un sous répertoire
> de Office, truc, bidule, cette modification est synchronisée
> automatiquement autre part.
> Exemple :
> /ptDeMontage/backup/Office
> /ptDeMontage/backup/truc
> /ptDeMontage/backup/much/bidule
> Aura toujours le même contenu que
> /home/utilisateur/Office
> /home/utilisateur/truc
> /home/utilisateur/much/bidule
>
> Se ça existe, je préférerais un logiciel tout fait plutôt que devoir
> écrire un script avec rsync qu'il faudra encore déclencher à
> intervalle régulier ...
>
> Merci d'avance
>
> Benoit
>
>

-- 
< Belaid >

Re: Logiciel de synchronisation automatisé

[Samuel Cifuentes]

Bonjour

ça existe : unison

mais ça ne "détecte" pas les modifs de fichier/repertoire

il faut ajouter une ligne dans crontab pour le lancer à intervalles fixes




Le 08/11/2017 à 09:11, Benoit B a écrit :

Bonjour,


Comment détecter une modification dans un système de fichier pour
utiliser un logiciel comme rsync ?
Je recherche un logiciel qui surveille les répertoires indiqués.
Exemple :
Je veux surveiller
/home/utilisateur/Office
/home/utilisateur/truc
/home/utilisateur/much/bidule

Dès qu'une modification est faite sur un fichier ou un sous répertoire
de Office, truc, bidule, cette modification est synchronisée
automatiquement autre part.
Exemple :
/ptDeMontage/backup/Office
/ptDeMontage/backup/truc
/ptDeMontage/backup/much/bidule
Aura toujours le même contenu que
/home/utilisateur/Office
/home/utilisateur/truc
/home/utilisateur/much/bidule

Se ça existe, je préférerais un logiciel tout fait plutôt que devoir
écrire un script avec rsync qu'il faudra encore déclencher à
intervalle régulier ...

Merci d'avance

Benoit

Logiciel de synchronisation automatisé

[Benoit B]

Bonjour,


Comment détecter une modification dans un système de fichier pour
utiliser un logiciel comme rsync ?
Je recherche un logiciel qui surveille les répertoires indiqués.
Exemple :
Je veux surveiller
/home/utilisateur/Office
/home/utilisateur/truc
/home/utilisateur/much/bidule

Dès qu'une modification est faite sur un fichier ou un sous répertoire
de Office, truc, bidule, cette modification est synchronisée
automatiquement autre part.
Exemple :
/ptDeMontage/backup/Office
/ptDeMontage/backup/truc
/ptDeMontage/backup/much/bidule
Aura toujours le même contenu que
/home/utilisateur/Office
/home/utilisateur/truc
/home/utilisateur/much/bidule

Se ça existe, je préférerais un logiciel tout fait plutôt que devoir
écrire un script avec rsync qu'il faudra encore déclencher à
intervalle régulier ...

Merci d'avance

Benoit

Re: RAID 5 array with journal device does not automatically assemble at boot

[Tobx]

I was on 4.9.0-4 (Stretch), now tried with 4.13.0-0 but had no luck.

I also tried it again on a clean Ubuntu-Server 17.10 with Kernel 4.13.0-16 and 
had exactly the same issue:

RAID assembling at boot only works when no journal device is involved.

> On 7. Nov 2017, at 20:04, deloptes  wrote:
> 
> besides what do you have in /etc/default/mdadm

I did not touch /etc/default/mdadm. I ran dpkg-reconfigure mdadm once, but this 
did not help, options in /etc/default/mdadm are:

AUTOCHECK=true
START_DAEMON=true
DAEMON_OPTIONS="--syslog"
VERBOSE=false

Options in /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf are:

HOMEHOST 
MAILADDR root
ARRAY /dev/md/test  metadata=1.2 UUID=4f0448f6:fee2638c:a1c1b547:20358980 
name=debian:test
  spares=1

regards