Re: Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system

2018-05-07 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, May 08, 2018 at 02:23:57AM +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote: [...] > >> Is anyone working on a mechanism to allow for install-time selection > >> of a desired init? I brought this up a few times since systemd came > >> to Debian, but I've

[linux.debian.user] question about exim.

2018-05-07 Thread Kamil Jońca
(onet was blocked, second try) Hello. Recently I found, that some mails (fetched witch fetchmail) does not reach my mailbox. Done some check and: --8<---cut here---start->8--- 2018-05-07 11:44:14.306 [9516] 1fFcgn-0002TU-Pb H=(alfa.kjonca) [127.0.0.1]:53574

Re: Instalar Certificado digital Debian 8.2

2018-05-07 Thread Rodolfo
Esqueci de mandar o link do chrome: https://java.com/en/download/faq/chrome.xml Em 7 de maio de 2018 23:55, Rodolfo escreveu: > Lucas, os applets(NPAPI plugins) foram desativados em algumas > versões(maioria no caso do firefox) dos Firefox e do Google Chrome(em > todas as

Re: Instalar Certificado digital Debian 8.2

2018-05-07 Thread Rodolfo
Lucas, os applets(NPAPI plugins) foram desativados em algumas versões(maioria no caso do firefox) dos Firefox e do Google Chrome(em todas as novas versões), não funcionará e não funciona já há algum tempo. https://java.com/en/download/help/firefox_java.xml Em 7 de maio de 2018 21:10, Lucas

Re: pointless systemd dependencies

2018-05-07 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 08/05/18 04:52, songbird wrote: > David Griffith wrote: > ... >> I found someone who has already done most if not all of this analysis and = >> has set up a repo containing non-systemd-using packages=2E Perhaps this ca= >> n be used as a foundation for something official=2E > > devuan is

Re: pointless systemd dependencies

2018-05-07 Thread The Wanderer
On 2018-05-07 at 14:34, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote: > On Mon, 07 May 2018 07:39:22 -0400 The Wanderer said: > >> 3. See whether it tries to install systemd, either by direct >> dependency or by an indirect cascade of dependencies. > ... >> 5. If it tries to install systemd by indirect

Re: regex in apt preferences

2018-05-07 Thread Abdullah Ramazanoğlu
On Tue, 8 May 2018 00:30:31 + (UTC) David Griffith said: > Through trial and error, I found that these worked in this order: > > Package: libsystemd0 > Pin: release * > Pin-Priority: 500 > > Package: *systemd* > Pin: release * > Pin-Priority: -1 > > In the order as you describe, EVERYTHING

Re: Backup problem using "cp"

2018-05-07 Thread David Wright
On Mon 07 May 2018 at 09:11:08 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 05/07/2018 08:49 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > >Hi, > > > >Andy Smith wrote: > >>It would still be good to establish why "cp -x" was seemingly able > >>to cross filesystem boundaries as that would be a bug. > > > >Yep. Leaving behind

Re: Instalar Certificado digital Debian 8.2

2018-05-07 Thread Lucas Rodrigues de Sá
Junior, Consegui instalar o certificado conforme sua explicação. Instalei o Java 8 e fiz o procedimento no Firefox 52. Porém não habilita o Applet Java no site. Após a instalação do Java 8 tenho que fazer alguma outra coisa? Em seg, 7 de mai de 2018 19:08, Lucas Rodrigues de Sá <

Re: Backup problem using "cp"

2018-05-07 Thread David Wright
On Mon 07 May 2018 at 15:28:14 (+0200), Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > My goal was to copy root and its sub-directory to a directory on another > > physical device. > > Well understood. > In a slightly different scenario (backup on Blu-ray) i do this several > times

Re: Backup problem using "cp"

2018-05-07 Thread David Wright
On Mon 07 May 2018 at 06:31:16 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 05/06/2018 10:11 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > >Hi, > > > >Richard Owlett wrote: > >>Thought I was doing that by specifying -x. > > > >Either cp -x has a bug or the target directory is not in a different > >filesystem than "/" and

Re: regex in apt preferences

2018-05-07 Thread David Griffith
On Tue, 8 May 2018, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote: On Mon, 7 May 2018 08:26:35 + (UTC) David Griffith said: Package: *systemd* Pin: release * Pin-Priority: -1 This will prevent anything requiring systemd from being accidentally installed. This also prevents libsystemd0 from being updated.

Re: minimal installation

2018-05-07 Thread Felix Miata
Brian composed on 2018-05-07 23:22 (UTC+0100): > On Mon 07 May 2018 at 18:04:47 -0400, Dan Norton wrote: >> On Mon, 7 May 2018 10:42:17 -0400 Felix Miata wrote: >> linux /install.amd/vmlinuz vga=788 --- tasks=standard >> base-installer/install-recommends=false >> Is that going to result

Re: Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system

2018-05-07 Thread Abdullah Ramazanoğlu
On Mon, 7 May 2018 12:40:13 -0700 Patrick Bartek said: > On Mon, 7 May 2018 01:25:15 + (UTC) David Griffith > wrote: >> Is anyone working on a mechanism to allow for install-time selection >> of a desired init? I brought this up a few times since systemd came >> to Debian,

Re: minimal installation

2018-05-07 Thread Dan Norton
On Mon, 7 May 2018 18:24:04 -0400 Felix Miata wrote: > Dan Norton composed on 2018-05-07 18:04 (UTC-0400): > > > On Mon, 7 May 2018 10:42:17 -0400 Felix Miata wrote: > > >> IME, virtually any distro's installation media when its presence > >> first appears on screen

Re: minimal installation (was: A long rant on Debian 9)

2018-05-07 Thread Brian
On Mon 07 May 2018 at 18:37:16 -0400, Dan Norton wrote: > On Mon, 7 May 2018 23:22:46 +0100 > Brian wrote: > > > On Mon 07 May 2018 at 18:04:47 -0400, Dan Norton wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 7 May 2018 10:42:17 -0400 > > > Felix Miata wrote: > > > >

Re: minimal installation (was: A long rant on Debian 9)

2018-05-07 Thread Dan Norton
On Mon, 7 May 2018 23:22:46 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Mon 07 May 2018 at 18:04:47 -0400, Dan Norton wrote: > > > On Mon, 7 May 2018 10:42:17 -0400 > > Felix Miata wrote: > > > > > jpff composed on 2018-05-07 12:34 (UTC+0100): > > > > > > > Felix

Re: minimal installation

2018-05-07 Thread Felix Miata
Dan Norton composed on 2018-05-07 18:04 (UTC-0400): > On Mon, 7 May 2018 10:42:17 -0400 Felix Miata wrote: >> IME, virtually any distro's installation media when its presence >> first appears on screen allows for some method of appending >> parameters to the kernel cmdline > That "kernel

Re: minimal installation (was: A long rant on Debian 9)

2018-05-07 Thread Brian
On Mon 07 May 2018 at 18:04:47 -0400, Dan Norton wrote: > On Mon, 7 May 2018 10:42:17 -0400 > Felix Miata wrote: > > > jpff composed on 2018-05-07 12:34 (UTC+0100): > > > > > Felix Miata wrote: > > > > >> My Debian installations are all net installs that include > >

Re: pointless systemd dependencies

2018-05-07 Thread David Griffith
On Mon, 7 May 2018, Brian wrote: [snip notes on analysing each and every systemd-touching package] I found someone who has already done most if not all of this analysis and has set up a repo containing non-systemd-using packages. Perhaps this can be used as a foundation for something official.

Re: Instalar Certificado digital Debian 8.2

2018-05-07 Thread Lucas Rodrigues de Sá
Boa Noite, Desculpe a falta de atenção estava faltando a instalação de 1 pacote, o instalei e deu certo! Vou prosseguir com a instalação! Obrigado pelo tutorial via e-mail Em 7 de maio de 2018 18:59, Lucas Rodrigues de Sá escreveu: > > > Em 7 de maio de 2018

Re: minimal installation (was: A long rant on Debian 9)

2018-05-07 Thread Dan Norton
On Mon, 7 May 2018 10:42:17 -0400 Felix Miata wrote: > jpff composed on 2018-05-07 12:34 (UTC+0100): > > > Felix Miata wrote: > > >> My Debian installations are all net installs that include > > >>tasks=standard base-installer/install-recommends=false > > >>

Re: minimal installation (was: A long rant on Debian 9)

2018-05-07 Thread Felix Miata
Dan Norton composed on 2018-05-07 17:47 (UTC-0400): > Felix wrote: > "My Debian installations are all net installs that include > tasks=standard base-installer/install-recommends=false > on the kernel cmdline." > What's the kernel here? The one for the installer, right? We need to >

Re: A long rant on Debian 9

2018-05-07 Thread Felix Miata
Dan Norton composed on 2018-05-07 17:47 (UTC-0400): > Felix wrote: > "My Debian installations are all net installs that include > tasks=standard base-installer/install-recommends=false > on the kernel cmdline." > What's the kernel here? The one for the installer, right? We need to >

Re: Instalar Certificado digital Debian 8.2

2018-05-07 Thread Lucas Rodrigues de Sá
Em 7 de maio de 2018 11:31, Linux - Junior Polegato < li...@juniorpolegato.com.br> escreveu: > Em 04-05-2018 19:10, Lucas Rodrigues de Sá escreveu: > > Boa Noite Junior, > > Estou tentando fazer o que vocẽ me sugeriu porém sem sucesso. > > Baixei o pacote libjpeg8_8d.orig.tar.gz >

Re: Dead computer after system shutdown. - Resolved for Now

2018-05-07 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 07 May 2018 21:54:48 +0200 deloptes wrote: Hello deloptes, >years it dropped, because of this. USA and UK started first, so it must >be more than 10y there ... or they do not produce anything at all - Here in the UK, almost as long as I can remember. It even

Re: A long rant on Debian 9

2018-05-07 Thread Dan Norton
On Mon, 7 May 2018 15:30:54 + (UTC) Curt wrote: > On 2018-05-07, Curt wrote: > > On 2018-05-07, Dan Norton wrote: > >>> > >>> on the kernel cmdline. I get nothing I don't need installed that > >>> way. Xorg and whatever else I need I

Reboot électrique distant

2018-05-07 Thread kaliderus
Bonsoir, Bonjour, Je cherche une solution pour rebooter électriquement (comme dans l'ancien temps) quelques équipements à distance (une box et 2 ou 3 autres bricoles). Avec ceci par exemple ? https://support.usr.com/products/remotemanagement/console-server-product.asp?sku=USR4204# Mais avec ce

Re: A long rant on Debian 9

2018-05-07 Thread Ric Moore
On 05/07/2018 02:16 PM, Brian wrote: Answering a question or two might see a dramatic increase in betterness. I'm stealing that one! Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former

Ajout d'une route sur une interface virtuelle

2018-05-07 Thread Frederic Zulian
​bonjour, J'ai une Freebox en mode routeur avec un PC portable faisant office de serveur Web.​ Je souhaite transformer mon pc portable en routeur et mettre la Freebox en bridge. Est-il techniquement possible de passer ma Freebox en bridge puis de transformer le PC portable en routeur en

Re: Dead computer after system shutdown. - Resolved for Now

2018-05-07 Thread deloptes
Brad Rogers wrote: > Hardly unique;  USA, UK, etc, etc. (ad nauseam) do the same thing. well Germany was delivering always a good quality, but in the past couple of years it dropped, because of this. USA and UK started first, so it must be more than 10y there ... or they do not produce anything

Re: Removing libsystemd0 from a non-systemd system

2018-05-07 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 7 May 2018 01:25:15 + (UTC) David Griffith wrote: > On Sun, 6 May 2018, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > On Sun, 6 May 2018 02:44:16 + (UTC) David Griffith > > wrote: > > > >> Have any advances been made in figuring out just how to remove > >>

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2018-05-07 Thread deloptes
Martin Steigerwald wrote: > I think mainly Akonadi, Nepomuk, Plasma, a bit also Phonon needs > quite some more stabilization and performance work. After 10years - those basic applications still cause problems ... and you call it "more stabilization and performance work" ... come on - jokes. The

Re: pointless systemd dependencies

2018-05-07 Thread songbird
David Griffith wrote: ... > I found someone who has already done most if not all of this analysis and = > has set up a repo containing non-systemd-using packages=2E Perhaps this ca= > n be used as a foundation for something official=2E devuan is already there (is it not?)... songbird

Re: pointless systemd dependencies

2018-05-07 Thread Brian
On Mon 07 May 2018 at 05:50:27 -0700, David Griffith wrote: > On May 7, 2018 4:39:22 AM PDT, The Wanderer wrote: > >On 2018-05-06 at 21:47, David Griffith wrote: > > > >> Could we start the process of identifying packages that have > >> dependencies on systemd in some way

Re: pointless systemd dependencies

2018-05-07 Thread Abdullah Ramazanoğlu
On Mon, 07 May 2018 07:39:22 -0400 The Wanderer said: > 3. See whether it tries to install systemd, either by direct dependency > or by an indirect cascade of dependencies. ... > 5. If it tries to install systemd by indirect dependency, identify the > package in the dependency chain which

Re: pointless systemd dependencies

2018-05-07 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 08:49:00PM +0300, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Good evening, > > Am 2018-05-07 hackte to...@tuxteam.de in die Tasten: > > If "no systemd" purism is your thing, there's Devuan. There are > > pretty smart folks over there too. > >

Re: Backup problem using "cp"

2018-05-07 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On 07/05/18 04:31 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I gather that "cp" is then an inappropriate tool. "tar" is inappropriate for my preferences - I was attempting to use "cp" as there would be multiple files &/or directories as input *and* output. I suspect long term I want "rsync" [ *MUCH* reading

Re: Quelle stratégie contre le vol d'un serveur ?

2018-05-07 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 07/05/2018 à 17:39, Olivier a écrit : Le 7 mai 2018 à 16:00, hamster a écrit : Pour les oublis de phrase de passe par contre, y'a pas de solution miracle : il faut s'en rappeller. Il y a d'autres solutions. Faut-il saisir une phrase de passe quand un système est

Re: A long rant on Debian 9

2018-05-07 Thread Brian
On Mon 07 May 2018 at 18:17:07 +0100, jpff wrote: > Things are getting better if not quite right. I have a lean x/fvwm system > installed and I have managed to get an xterm displayed. The major issues I > have left outstanding are If you have fvwm on the system it was installed after first

Re: pointless systemd dependencies

2018-05-07 Thread Michelle Konzack
Good evening, Am 2018-05-07 hackte to...@tuxteam.de in die Tasten: > If "no systemd" purism is your thing, there's Devuan. There are > pretty smart folks over there too. Without security updates... I used some to get rid of systemd entirely, BUT, those packages are some versions behind Debian!

Re: Backup problem using "cp"

2018-05-07 Thread Jude DaShiell
On Mon, 7 May 2018, Kushal Kumaran wrote: Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 13:15:48 From: Kushal Kumaran To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Backup problem using "cp" Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 17:16:09 + (UTC) Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Richard

Re: longue attente au boot

2018-05-07 Thread Eric Degenetais
D'après ce que j'ai compris, le traitement proposé repose sur deux pistes extérieures au noyau : 1) vérifier s'il y a vraiment besoin d'un nombre aléatoire de qualité, sinon utiliser un autre appel système 2) utiliser le bootloader pour conserver l'entropie lors d'un reboot pour que le générateur

Re: A long rant on Debian 9

2018-05-07 Thread jpff
Things are getting better if not quite right. I have a lean x/fvwm system installed and I have managed to get an xterm displayed. The major issues I have left outstanding are 1: The X40 has a three-mbutton trackpoint but while button 1 works, button 2 has no affect and button 3 does what

Re: Backup problem using "cp"

2018-05-07 Thread Kushal Kumaran
Richard Owlett writes: > On 05/07/2018 07:01 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Richard Owlett wrote: >>> richard@debian-jan13:~$ stat / | fgrep Device >>> Device: 80eh/2062d Inode: 2 Links: 22 >>> richard@debian-jan13:~$ stat /media | fgrep Device >>>

Re: Station diskless et Debian testing

2018-05-07 Thread BERTRAND Joël
BOITEUX, Frederic a écrit : > Bonjour, > > Je crois que depuis Stretch, le protocole NFS est passé par défaut en TCP, > est-ce que tu as bien configuré ton accès NFS si tu veux accéder à un serveur > qui est toujours en UDP (j'imagine en NFSv3) ? Voir les options de mount, > comme «

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2018-05-07 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, May 06, 2018 11:54:51 PM Felix Miata wrote: > rhkra...@gmail.com composed on 2018-05-06 21:28 (UTC-0400): > > @Martin Steigerwald > > > > What a clever idea--security by obscurity, by setting your clock 8 years > > off... > > > > On Monday, May 10, 2010 05:58:42 PM Martin Steigerwald

Re: Quelle stratégie contre le vol d'un serveur ?

2018-05-07 Thread Wallace
Le 07/05/2018 à 17:22, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : > On Monday 07 May 2018 15:06:41 Olivier wrote: >> Imaginons un serveur Debian : > ou tout autre serveur finalement :-) > >> Quelle stratégie mettre en place pour diminuer au maximum les >> conséquences néfastes suite à un vol du

Re: Quelle stratégie contre le vol d'un serveur ?

2018-05-07 Thread Olivier
Le 7 mai 2018 à 17:53, hamster a écrit : > > > Si tu chiffre l'intégralité d'une partoche avec luks, il faut donner la > phrase de passe au boot si tu le démarre normalement, et au moment ou tu > veux accéder a la partoche si tu boote avec une clef puis essaye de la > lire.

Re: Dead computer after system shutdown. - Resolved for Now

2018-05-07 Thread Curt
On 2018-05-07, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 5/6/18, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Sunday, May 06, 2018 04:57:13 PM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >>> On Sun, May 06, 2018 at 09:19:24PM +0200, Hans wrote: >>> >>> [...] >>> >>> > Check also the elkos, if

Re: Chinese file name problem in xterm

2018-05-07 Thread Curt
On 2018-05-06, Long Wind wrote: > > some Chinese file names are properly shown in xterm in stretch, but other are > not > > all Chinese characters can be properly shown in firefox > > how to solve it? Thanks! > I really don't know, but this fellow Eric Ma

Re: Quelle stratégie contre le vol d'un serveur ?

2018-05-07 Thread hamster
Le 07/05/2018 à 17:39, Olivier a écrit : > Le 7 mai 2018 à 16:00, hamster > a écrit : > > Pour les oublis de phrase de passe par contre, y'a pas de solution > miracle : il faut s'en rappeller. > > > Faut-il saisir une  phrase de passe

Re: A long rant on Debian 9

2018-05-07 Thread Brian
On Mon 07 May 2018 at 15:46:12 +0100, jpff wrote: > > > > > > And thank you all who pointed me at the non-free installer files. I will > > > try that later today with luck > > > > > > > > well, modified rapture1 > > i booted from the usb stick with the firmware .iso and tried an install. I

Re: Quelle stratégie contre le vol d'un serveur ?

2018-05-07 Thread Pierre Malard
> Le 7 mai 2018 à 17:31, Raphaël POITEVIN a écrit : > > andre_deb...@numericable.fr writes: >> As tu vu l'émission d'Élise Lucet sur FR2 il y a peu, >> le danger est le chiffrage à distance d'un ordinateur. >> Le pirate (et non le hacker) enverra le code de

Re: Deshabilitar la cortina de GDM

2018-05-07 Thread cubells
El 7/5/18 a les 17:17, Narcis Garcia ha escrit: > > La meva pregunta és: Com? > Això està a paràmetres del sistema, a britness and lock crec recordar. -- Atentament, cubells. --

Re: longue attente au boot

2018-05-07 Thread julien
Bonjour, C'est un bug lié au fonctionnement du générateur d'entropie du noyau... Un bug est ouvert mais apparemment ça ne sera pas corrigé sur le noyau car ça corrige une faille de sécu mais dans les programmes en espace utilisateur (en gros, ton système attend qu'il y ait assez d'entropie pour

Re: Quelle stratégie contre le vol d'un serveur ?

2018-05-07 Thread Olivier
Le 7 mai 2018 à 16:00, hamster a écrit : > > > Pour les oublis de phrase de passe par contre, y'a pas de solution > miracle : il faut s'en rappeller. > > Faut-il saisir une phrase de passe quand un système est chiffré ? Si oui, à quel moment (au boot, uniquement si on boote

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2018-05-07 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Sune Vuorela: > On 2010-05-06, Curt Howland wrote: > > On Thursday 06 May 2010, Ana Guerrero was heard to say: > >> On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 03:17:43AM -0300, Jorge Gonçalves wrote: > >> > Maybe use dummy packages, or rename the packages so that

Re: longue attente au boot

2018-05-07 Thread Eric Degenetais
bonjour, ça semble lié à la résolution d'une CVE récente : une faille de sécurité était créée par le fait que les générateurs de nombres aléatoires n'attendaient pas d'avoir assez d'entropie pour générer des nombres vraiment aléatoires, ce qui rend les clefs générées prédictibles. Le patch a

Re: A long rant on Debian 9

2018-05-07 Thread Curt
On 2018-05-07, Curt wrote: > On 2018-05-07, Dan Norton wrote: >>> >>> on the kernel cmdline. I get nothing I don't need installed that way. >>> Xorg and whatever else I need I get with apt* once booted normally. >>> >> >> How do you get that on the kernel

Re: Quelle stratégie contre le vol d'un serveur ?

2018-05-07 Thread Raphaël POITEVIN
andre_deb...@numericable.fr writes: > As tu vu l'émission d'Élise Lucet sur FR2 il y a peu, > le danger est le chiffrage à distance d'un ordinateur. > Le pirate (et non le hacker) enverra le code de déchiffrage > contre quelques bitcoins anonymes. > Des entreprises sont alors contraintes de

longue attente au boot

2018-05-07 Thread Frédéric Baldit
Bonjour, j'expérimente, depuis une réinstallation de stretch sous un PC portable amd64 (ASUS N55JV) avec le bureau gnome un long temps d'attente au boot. Je n'ai pas chronométré à la seconde près, mais à ma montre l'écran de login apparaît, de façon reproductible, au bout de deux minutes.

Re: A long rant on Debian 9

2018-05-07 Thread Curt
On 2018-05-07, Dan Norton wrote: >> >> on the kernel cmdline. I get nothing I don't need installed that way. >> Xorg and whatever else I need I get with apt* once booted normally. >> > > How do you get that on the kernel cmdline? My guess is that when the > net-install

Re: D-Bus

2018-05-07 Thread Matias Mucciolo
On Monday, May 7, 2018 12:02:09 PM -03 Andrés Benevento wrote: > Hola gente, tengo instalado Debian 8 y utilizo el navegador Opera. Para > actualizarlo a la última versión me indica que libdbus-1-3 debe ser > mayor igual a la versión 1.9.14 pero tengo la versión 1.8.22 y no se > actualiza desde

Re: Quelle stratégie contre le vol d'un serveur ?

2018-05-07 Thread andre_debian
On Monday 07 May 2018 15:06:41 Olivier wrote: > Imaginons un serveur Debian : ou tout autre serveur finalement :-) > Quelle stratégie mettre en place pour diminuer au maximum les > conséquences néfastes suite à un vol du serveur ? Sauf si le contenu de la partition du serveur est chiffré, si

Re: Detectar cambios de hardware

2018-05-07 Thread Carlos Castillo
Si no estoy equivocado, OCS Inventory en combinación con GLPI pueden hacer ese tipo de acciones. Si no estoy mal, OCS inventory detecta el cambio, pero solo actualiza el inventario y no quedan registros de como estaba la maquina antes. El lun., 7 may. 2018 a las 9:29, Matias Mucciolo

Re: Deshabilitar la cortina de GDM

2018-05-07 Thread Narcis Garcia
__ I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses aren't masked enough at this mail public archive. Public archive administrator should fix this against automated addresses collectors. El 07/05/18 a les 16:59, cubells ha escrit: > El 7/5/18 a les 16:27, Narcis Garcia ha

Re: A long rant on Debian 9

2018-05-07 Thread bw
On Mon, 7 May 2018, jpff wrote: > > > > > > And thank you all who pointed me at the non-free installer files. I will > > > try that later today with luck > > > > > > > > well, modified rapture1 > > i booted from the usb stick with the firmware .iso and tried an install. I > accepted the

D-Bus

2018-05-07 Thread Andrés Benevento
Hola gente, tengo instalado Debian 8 y utilizo el navegador Opera. Para actualizarlo a la última versión me indica que libdbus-1-3 debe ser mayor igual a la versión 1.9.14 pero tengo la versión 1.8.22 y no se actualiza desde hace tiempo. Alguna sugerencia? Quizás cambiar de repositorios.

Re: Deshabilitar la cortina de GDM

2018-05-07 Thread cubells
El 7/5/18 a les 16:27, Narcis Garcia ha escrit: > > __ > > Engego l'ordinador únicament polsant el botó de la carcassa. > El sistema arriba fins a la pantalla d'inicis de sessió (GDM). No faig res. > Després d'una estona, el monitor s'apaga (per l'estalvi d'energia, > entenc). No faig

Re: A long rant on Debian 9

2018-05-07 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 01:09:33PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Mon 07 May 2018 at 12:34:07 +0100, jpff wrote: > > > That looks interesting; it attemts to answer my deep problem about no X, > > xdm, xterm etc. > > > > My problem nowis I do not know where/how to apply this. I have not seen any > >

Re: Perfils 'mobils' d'escriptori

2018-05-07 Thread Narcis Garcia
Tot això sona molt bé! Gràcies. El 07/05/18 a les 15:55, Adrià ha escrit: > On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 01:52:22PM +0200, Narcis Garcia wrote: >> Algú sap si hi ha alguna eina que s'ocupi de sincronitzar un perfil >> d'usuari (/home/usuari) per a què aquest usuari pugui iniciar sessió >>

Re: A long rant on Debian 9

2018-05-07 Thread jpff
And thank you all who pointed me at the non-free installer files. I will try that later today with luck well, modified rapture1 i booted from the usb stick with the firmware .iso and tried an install. I accepted the licence for the firmware and proceeded to configure the wifi. It

Re: minimal installation (was: A long rant on Debian 9)

2018-05-07 Thread Felix Miata
jpff composed on 2018-05-07 12:34 (UTC+0100): > Felix Miata wrote: >> My Debian installations are all net installs that include >> tasks=standard base-installer/install-recommends=false >> on the kernel cmdline. I get nothing I don't need installed that way. Xorg >> and >> whatever else

Re: Backup problem using "cp"

2018-05-07 Thread Dan Norton
On Mon, 7 May 2018 09:59:01 -0400 Bob Weber wrote: > On 5/7/18 9:28 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Richard Owlett wrote: > >> My goal was to copy root and its sub-directory to a directory on > >> another physical device. > > Well understood. > > In a slightly

Re: Backup problem using "cp"

2018-05-07 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/07/2018 08:54 AM, Richard Hector wrote: On 08/05/18 00:55, David Griffith wrote: On May 7, 2018 4:31:16 AM PDT, Richard Owlett wrote: On 05/06/2018 10:11 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: Thought I was doing that by specifying -x. Either cp -x

Re: Instalar Certificado digital Debian 8.2

2018-05-07 Thread Linux - Junior Polegato
Em 04-05-2018 19:10, Lucas Rodrigues de Sá escreveu: Boa Noite Junior, Estou tentando fazer o que vocẽ me sugeriu porém sem sucesso. Baixei o pacote libjpeg8_8d.orig.tar.gz e o descompactei com o comando tar

Re: Deshabilitar la cortina de GDM

2018-05-07 Thread Narcis Garcia
__ I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses aren't masked enough at this mail public archive. Public archive administrator should fix this against automated addresses collectors. El 07/05/18 a les 15:55, cubells ha escrit: > El 7/5/18 a les 13:47, Narcis Garcia ha

KVM et OpenVSwitch

2018-05-07 Thread Olivier
Bonjour, Je vais refondre dans les prochaines semaines mon infrastructure pour la virtualisation avec KVM. Actuellement : - mes VMs ont des interfaces réseau virtuelles qui correspondent chacune à un pont (paquet bridge-utils) - j'ai quelques VMs Debian qui implémentent du routage (IP forwading

Re: Backup problem using "cp"

2018-05-07 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/07/2018 08:49 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Andy Smith wrote: It would still be good to establish why "cp -x" was seemingly able to cross filesystem boundaries as that would be a bug. Yep. Leaving behind too many maybe-bugs can make the ground swampy. I forgot to mention that the

Re: Dead computer after system shutdown. - Resolved for Now

2018-05-07 Thread Mike McClain
On Sun, May 06, 2018 at 02:36:50PM -0400, Thomas George wrote: > Box is between two tables but managed to remove side cover and with > mirror confirmed green light on motherboard. Unplugged power cord, > green light goes out, reconnected power, green light on and power > switch works, BIOS message

Re: Deshabilitar la cortina de GDM

2018-05-07 Thread cubells
El 7/5/18 a les 13:47, Narcis Garcia ha escrit: > Havent instal·lat uns quants ordinadors amb Debian 9 +Gnome amb > múltiples usuaris d'escriptori, ara m'adono que, quan passa l'estona a > la pantalla d'inicis de sessió (GDM), apart de l'estalvi de pantalla > s'activa la famosa «cortina». > Això

Re: Chinese file name problem in xterm

2018-05-07 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On dom, 06 mai 2018, Long Wind wrote: some Chinese file names are properly shown in xterm in stretch, but other are not all Chinese characters can be properly shown in firefox When you say Firefox shows the characters, do you mean it correctly shows those file names, or just that you can

Re: Backup problem using "cp"

2018-05-07 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/07/2018 08:24 AM, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 07:51:23AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I'll likely abandon further immediate investigation of cp. I've other projects to complete It would still be good to establish why "cp -x" was seemingly able to cross filesystem

Re: Backup problem using "cp"

2018-05-07 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/07/2018 08:28 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: My goal was to copy root and its sub-directory to a directory on another physical device. Well understood. In a slightly different scenario (backup on Blu-ray) i do this several times per day. But i would not dare to

Re: Quelle stratégie contre le vol d'un serveur ?

2018-05-07 Thread hamster
Le 07/05/2018 à 15:06, Olivier a écrit : > 1. J'imagine possible de différencier les  moyens de protection selon > la confidentialité des informations du serveur (pas besoin de protéger > le code binaire du programme cp, mais impératif de protéger un fichier > contenant des mots de passe) mais

Re: Backup problem using "cp"

2018-05-07 Thread Bob Weber
On 5/7/18 9:28 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: My goal was to copy root and its sub-directory to a directory on another physical device. Well understood. In a slightly different scenario (backup on Blu-ray) i do this several times per day. But i would not dare to give the

Re: Perfils 'mobils' d'escriptori

2018-05-07 Thread Adrià
On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 01:52:22PM +0200, Narcis Garcia wrote: > Algú sap si hi ha alguna eina que s'ocupi de sincronitzar un perfil > d'usuari (/home/usuari) per a què aquest usuari pugui iniciar sessió > indistintament des de diferents ordinadors i trobar el mateix? Si tens un servidor central,

Re: Backup problem using "cp"

2018-05-07 Thread Richard Hector
On 08/05/18 00:55, David Griffith wrote: > On May 7, 2018 4:31:16 AM PDT, Richard Owlett wrote: >> On 05/06/2018 10:11 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Richard Owlett wrote: Thought I was doing that by specifying -x. >>> >>> Either cp -x has a bug or the target

Re: A long rant on Debian 9

2018-05-07 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/07/2018 08:07 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: [snip]> It sounds like you un-checked the specific desktop environments (KDE, GNOME, XFCE, etc.) but left "Debian desktop environment" selected. I honestly have no idea what happens in that case. I always un-check that one. The only Tasks I select

Re: Backup problem using "cp"

2018-05-07 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Andy Smith wrote: > It would still be good to establish why "cp -x" was seemingly able > to cross filesystem boundaries as that would be a bug. Yep. Leaving behind too many maybe-bugs can make the ground swampy. I forgot to mention that the theory of David Wright is not outruled yet: David

Re: Backup problem using "cp"

2018-05-07 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/07/2018 07:55 AM, David Griffith wrote: On May 7, 2018 4:31:16 AM PDT, Richard Owlett wrote: On 05/06/2018 10:11 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: Thought I was doing that by specifying -x. Either cp -x has a bug or the target directory is not

Re: A long rant on Debian 9

2018-05-07 Thread Steve McIntyre
wool...@eeg.ccf.org wrote: > >It sounds like you un-checked the specific desktop environments (KDE, >GNOME, XFCE, etc.) but left "Debian desktop environment" selected. >I honestly have no idea what happens in that case. I always un-check >that one. The only Tasks I select during the install are

Re: Detectar cambios de hardware

2018-05-07 Thread Matias Mucciolo
On Monday, May 7, 2018 9:18:26 AM -03 Leonidch wrote: > Hola, > > estoy buscando algun programa que me permite detectar cambios en el > hardware de alguna pc en la red, seria alguna combinacion de cliente y > servidor, este ultimo administrado en linux, y los clientes en windows. > > Saludos

Re: Backup problem using "cp"

2018-05-07 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > My goal was to copy root and its sub-directory to a directory on another > physical device. Well understood. In a slightly different scenario (backup on Blu-ray) i do this several times per day. But i would not dare to give the whole root tree as input to any copying

Re: Backup problem using "cp"

2018-05-07 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 07:51:23AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > I'll likely abandon further immediate investigation of cp. I've other > projects to complete It would still be good to establish why "cp -x" was seemingly able to cross filesystem boundaries as that would be a bug.

Detectar cambios de hardware

2018-05-07 Thread Leonidch
Hola, estoy buscando algun programa que me permite detectar cambios en el hardware de alguna pc en la red, seria alguna combinacion de cliente y servidor, este ultimo administrado en linux, y los clientes en windows. Saludos

Re: Backup problem using "cp"

2018-05-07 Thread Dan Purgert
Richard Owlett wrote: > On 05/07/2018 06:54 AM, Dan Purgert wrote: >> Richard Owlett wrote: >>> [...] >>> I suspect long term I want "rsync" [ *MUCH* reading to do! ] >> >> Perhaps; although depending on the source / target pathing, you may run >> into the same length issues. >> > > 1st - I

Re: Backup problem using "cp"

2018-05-07 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/07/2018 07:01 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: richard@debian-jan13:~$ stat / | fgrep Device Device: 80eh/2062d Inode: 2 Links: 22 richard@debian-jan13:~$ stat /media | fgrep Device Device: 80eh/2062d Inode: 131073 Links: 5 "/media" was not

Re: A long rant on Debian 9

2018-05-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, May 06, 2018 at 09:51:09PM +0100, John wrote: > After rather a long time it said it was installed so I rebooted -- a > big mistake! I was hoping for a computer where I could write > programs, mainly with xterm, emacs (with elisp) and C. I had asked > for no gnome no kde no xfce... I

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