Re: Network issue

2018-08-29 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 06:43:00PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 09:58:47PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > 3) e1000e may be bad, but vmxnet3 will make oom-killer an everyday > > reality. SR-IOV is a way to go. > > everyday? really? when did you last try this? Saw the

Re: Network issue

2018-08-29 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 03:37:52PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 2:00 PM Reco wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 01:18:52PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > > Hi, I've never used OVH. How certain are you that the e1000 network driver > > > is the

Re: Curiositat sobre les IP assignades pels proveïdors

2018-08-29 Thread Orestes Mas
On 28/08/18 13:58, Joan wrote: > Com diu l'Orestes, diria que Parlem ho fa... Però Parlem no te > permanència ;-) Sí que en té, al menys en el producte de fibra òptica. Suposo que és perquè tenen el servei subcontractat. Orestes.

Re: Curiositat sobre les IP assignades pels proveïdors

2018-08-29 Thread Orestes Mas
On 27/08/18 20:23, Iker Bilbao wrote: > Per als modem de fibra la recomanació és posar-lo en modo bridge > (aprofitar només l ONT, q només faci de modem) i tenir la IP pública a > un router darrera. > El rendiment i estabilitat millor molt, de forma notable. > > Iker. Aquest concretament (ZTE

Re: Curiositat sobre les IP assignades pels proveïdors

2018-08-29 Thread Orestes Mas
On 28/08/18 12:07, Joan G. Villaraco wrote: > Hola Orestes i companyia, > > A mi em va passar el mateix amb Pepehone (ADSL) i Yoigo (fibra) amb el > CG-NAT, només has de consultar-lis com fer la petició per a que t'ho > treguin i et passin a una IP legal d'internet. Jo ho vaig fer per a > tots dos

Re: i.e., cannot set XFCE desktop background -- Re: thumbnailing/ image choosing (xfdesktop-settings) no longer working

2018-08-29 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 01:32:15PM -0400, Lee wrote: > On 8/29/18, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 04:31:35PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 04:12:51PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > >> > For some reason presently unknown to me, XFCE4's

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread David Wright
On Wed 29 Aug 2018 at 15:07:31 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 29 August 2018 11:33:48 John Hasler wrote: > > > Gene writes: > > > Yes, but fetchmails delete is ignored, so I have to keep the email > > > cleaned out with a web browser... > > > > Why in hell are you using that

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread John Hasler
Gene writes: > Yes, but fetchmails delete is ignored, so I have to keep the email > cleaned out with a web browser... I wrote: > Why in hell are you using that provider? Gene writes: > This is WV. Its the only game in the area. Your ISP needn't be your email provider. -- John Hasler

Re: Network issue

2018-08-29 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 09:58:47PM +0300, Reco wrote: 3) e1000e may be bad, but vmxnet3 will make oom-killer an everyday reality. SR-IOV is a way to go. everyday? really? when did you last try this?

Re: Network issue

2018-08-29 Thread Lee
> ... I advise to look at your hardware configuration like flow control. > This line doesn't seem good for me (mind the text in bold): > > "Aug 28 15:50:34 ovh-1 kernel: e1000e: enp1s0 NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full > Duplex, *Flow Control: None"* In general, enabling flow control is a bad idea -

Re: sid upgrade problem

2018-08-29 Thread Default User
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018, 15:19 Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > On 30/08/2018 03:46, Default User wrote: > > Running sid (Debian Unstable). > > For several weeks, one particular update seems to be stalled. All other > > updates work as normal: > > user@domain:~$ sudo aptitude -Pvv full-upgrade > >

Re: Network issue

2018-08-29 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 2:00 PM Reco wrote: > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 01:18:52PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > Hi, I've never used OVH. How certain are you that the e1000 network driver > > is the correct one? > > Under VMWare/ESX the network driver choice can be crucial, for example. > >

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread David Wright
On Wed 29 Aug 2018 at 11:26:31 (-0500), John Hasler wrote: > David writes: > > It's cheap to register your own domain and find a suitable hosting > > provider. This makes moving and travelling much simpler. > > With Gandi at least, no hosting is required. They will forward mail to > your domain

Re: Network issue

2018-08-29 Thread Fekete Tamás
Dear Kevin, and just one more thing. I am beginner with iptables, but your POSTROUTING doesn't seem good as well. You made a POSTROUTING in the case of VM-s what you manage (they can see the internet), but there is no source change on IP packets which goes in the direction of your VM-s. Your

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 29 August 2018 11:58:49 David Wright wrote: > On Wed 29 Aug 2018 at 12:19:18 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 06:12:39AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Wednesday 29 August 2018 04:34:38 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > > We get what we

What is Firefox on Debian Stretch nearest future?

2018-08-29 Thread Juan R. de Silva
Hi folks, As far as I understend Mozilla is going to stop supporting Firefox ESR 59 this August. Does it mean that Firefox Quantum is comming to Debian Stretch before long? Is any information available? Thanks

Re: Network issue

2018-08-29 Thread Fekete Tamás
Dear all, the explanation of Reco seems quite good for me. If you use load generator on your mobile device it could be the reason. What happens if you use a normal download for a large file? Do you get the same result? If yes, I advise to look at your hardware configuration like flow control.

Re: sid upgrade problem

2018-08-29 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 30/08/2018 03:46, Default User wrote: Running sid (Debian Unstable). For several weeks, one particular update seems to be stalled. All other updates work as normal: user@domain:~$ sudo aptitude -Pvv full-upgrade [sudo] password for default: The following NEW packages will be installed:

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 29 August 2018 11:53:50 Dan Purgert wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 29 August 2018 08:25:36 Dan Purgert wrote: > >> Gene Heskett wrote: > >> > On Wednesday 29 August 2018 06:37:25 Dan Purgert wrote: > >> >> (as an aside, whoever came up with HTML-based email should be >

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 29 August 2018 11:33:48 John Hasler wrote: > Gene writes: > > Yes, but fetchmails delete is ignored, so I have to keep the email > > cleaned out with a web browser... > > Why in hell are you using that provider? This is WV. Its the only game in the area. -- Cheers, Gene Heskett

Re: Network issue

2018-08-29 Thread Reco
Hi. Please do not top post. This is a mailing list, not a corporate e-mail spamfest. On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 01:18:52PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > Hi, I've never used OVH. How certain are you that the e1000 network driver > is the correct one? > Under VMWare/ESX the network driver

Re: Network manager and VPN

2018-08-29 Thread Nazar Zhuk
Hi, On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 07:49:38PM +0200, Jarosław Kłopotek - INTERDUO wrote: > Hi guys, > All the time when I disconnect all kind of VPN, there is a problem with DNS > Resolving. How are you connecting to VPN? If it's with network-manager-openvpn it should automatically restore your DNS to

Re: Network issue

2018-08-29 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
Hi, I've never used OVH. How certain are you that the e1000 network driver is the correct one? Under VMWare/ESX the network driver choice can be crucial, for example. On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 6:30 AM Kevin DAGNEAUX wrote: > Hi, > > I've a server in OVH datacenter, on this server i've 7 VMs, on 1

Network manager and VPN

2018-08-29 Thread Jarosław Kłopotek - INTERDUO
Hi guys, All the time when I disconnect all kind of VPN, there is a problem with DNS Resolving. I use network manager 1.12.2. Do You know how to remove this bug? Or how to do some workaround like: service network-manager restart after VPN disconnect? Regards -- Jarosław Kłopotek, kom. 607

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread Joe
On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 12:24:42 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > tomás writes: > > Well, I've succeeded already with a few people moving from > > gmail/outlook to posteo.de. Every little bit counts. > > I'm sure we're losing ground, though. If we get to the point where the majority dictates what

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread John Hasler
tomás writes: > Well, I've succeeded already with a few people moving from > gmail/outlook to posteo.de. Every little bit counts. I'm sure we're losing ground, though. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 8/29/18 11:29 AM, John Hasler wrote: Michael Stone wrote: FWIW, I think SMTP (and IMAP) is on its way out as well. I expect that in 20 years HTTP will still be going strong [...] tomás writes: Rather some Google/Amazon/Facebook/Microsoft backed abominable mutation of that. One that (in

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:34:37AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > tomás writes: > > You can dream of a society where some basic things aren't monetized. > > Scarce resources *must* be allocated. Trade, facilitated by money, is > a decentralized way to

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread John Hasler
tomás writes: > You can dream of a society where some basic things aren't monetized. Scarce resources *must* be allocated. Trade, facilitated by money, is a decentralized way to do it. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread John Hasler
David writes: > It's cheap to register your own domain and find a suitable hosting > provider. This makes moving and travelling much simpler. With Gandi at least, no hosting is required. They will forward mail to your domain to any address you specify. There needn't be any server of any kind

Re: Re : Répertoire avec des noms étranges à la racine : -ffffffffffffffff-0000000000

2018-08-29 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On 8/28/18 9:09 PM, bidons59 wrote: Le 28/08/2018 à 18:46, nicolas.patr...@gmail.com a écrit : Le 28/08/2018 17:02:39, Fabrice Delvallée a écrit : Je viens de trouver de deux répertoires aux noms étranges à la racine de ma Debian stretch : […] Bien sur j'ai aucune idée de ce que je

Re: Re : Répertoire avec des noms étranges à la racine : -ffffffffffffffff-0000000000

2018-08-29 Thread Christophe De Natale
Le 29/08/2018 à 17:59, bidons59 a écrit : Le 28/08/2018 à 23:03, Belaïd a écrit : Bonsoir, Selon le résultat "SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED" l'auto-evaluation de la santé du disque n'a pas donné de mauvais résultats.  Tu peux utiliser l'utilitaire Disks pour une

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:01:44AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: [...] > > Massive proprietary email providers are just such points of failure. > > True. Explain that to your neighbor and try to convince him that it's a > good reason for him to quit

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > I don't think it's a conspiracy. I think most people *like* > centralization. Joe writes: > But the very purpose of the Internet is to be decentralised: to avoid > a single, or even a few, points of failure. Was. Past tense. > Massive proprietary email providers are just such

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 10:48:27AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > tomás writes: > > If you're not paying money, they are monetizing you in some other way. > > This is the sad reality of today's society (not that there aren't > > people fighting to change

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread Dan Purgert
Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 29 August 2018 08:25:36 Dan Purgert wrote: > >> Gene Heskett wrote: >> > On Wednesday 29 August 2018 06:37:25 Dan Purgert wrote: >> >> (as an aside, whoever came up with HTML-based email should be >> >> tarred and feathered). >> > >> > Emasculated would be even

Re: Re : Répertoire avec des noms étranges à la racine : -ffffffffffffffff-0000000000

2018-08-29 Thread bidons59
Le 28/08/2018 à 23:03, Belaïd a écrit : Bonsoir, Selon le résultat "SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED" l'auto-evaluation de la santé du disque n'a pas donné de mauvais résultats.  Tu peux utiliser l'utilitaire Disks pour une évaluation en mode graphique Bonsoir,

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread David Wright
On Wed 29 Aug 2018 at 12:19:18 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 06:12:39AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 29 August 2018 04:34:38 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [...] > > > > We get what we pay for [...] > > > This is also true, but on this side of the pond,

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread John Hasler
tomás writes: > If your connectivity provider treats you well, this is a fine option. > I have my current connectivity provider in relatively low esteem (that > might change), so I wouldn't like to entrust them with something as > (hopefully) permanent as my mail address. Register a domain with

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread John Hasler
tomás writes: > If you're not paying money, they are monetizing you in some other way. > This is the sad reality of today's society (not that there aren't > people fighting to change that, mind you). It's not "the sad reality of today's society". It's reality, period. What they do consumes

sid upgrade problem

2018-08-29 Thread Default User
Running sid (Debian Unstable). For several weeks, one particular update seems to be stalled. All other updates work as normal: user@domain:~$ sudo aptitude -Pvv full-upgrade [sudo] password for default: The following NEW packages will be installed: libsane1{ab} The following packages will be

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread Joe
On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 10:29:25 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > Michael Stone wrote: > > FWIW, I think SMTP (and IMAP) is on its way out as well. I expect > > that in 20 years HTTP will still be going strong [...] > > tomás writes: > > Rather some Google/Amazon/Facebook/Microsoft backed abominable >

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread John Hasler
Gene writes: > Yes, but fetchmails delete is ignored, so I have to keep the email > cleaned out with a web browser... Why in hell are you using that provider? -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread John Hasler
Michael Stone wrote: > FWIW, I think SMTP (and IMAP) is on its way out as well. I expect > that in 20 years HTTP will still be going strong [...] tomás writes: > Rather some Google/Amazon/Facebook/Microsoft backed abominable > mutation of that. One that (in subtle ways) gives a competitive >

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 29 August 2018 08:25:36 Dan Purgert wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 29 August 2018 06:37:25 Dan Purgert wrote: > >> (as an aside, whoever came up with HTML-based email should be > >> tarred and feathered). > > > > Emasculated would be even better. :( > > perhaps ... but

Re: Inloggen op Active directory

2018-08-29 Thread Bas Neve
*HIGH5 Rene de Groot. AD Integratie werkt !!!* Graag ontvang ik een bevestiging retour. Met vriendelijke groet, Bas Neve bastiaann...@gmail.com 316 14 12 00 71 Op di 28 aug. 2018 om 15:35 schreef Bas Neve : > Beste mensen, > > Inloggen op een active directory domein vanuit Debian95

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread Francesco Porro
Il 29/08/2018 10:34, to...@tuxteam.de ha scritto: > My recommendation over here in Germany (which should be as accessible > to you as an Italian, but perhaps there are equivalent Italian offers, > which I'd tend to support, were I you) > > - posteo.de > - mailbox.org > > Each of them cost

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread Francesco Porro
Thank you for all your precious advices and considerations, expecially for privacy-releaded concerns. Indeed, I'm very well aware of this aspects, but perhaps you're missing my point: the mailbox will be used *only* for mailing lists, which content is (usually) of public domain, on the web. So

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread Dan Purgert
Joe wrote: > On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 12:35:21 - (UTC) > Dan Purgert wrote: > >> Michael Stone wrote: >> > [...] I personally tend to think that bringing the next billion >> > people online is more important than maintaining a Manichaean >> > priesthood based on internet protocols from the 80s.

Re: SSH root login from one ip via certificate only, all other logins password only.

2018-08-29 Thread Dan Purgert
James Allsopp wrote: > Hi, > I need to have one computer I can ssh to other computers as root for > Ansible. To do this I've set up a strong certificate with a password, but > what I want is to only be able to log in as root from one IP using that > cert. All other users should only log in via a

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread Dan Purgert
wrote: > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:25:36PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: >> Gene Heskett wrote: >> > On Wednesday 29 August 2018 06:37:25 Dan Purgert wrote: >> >> (as an aside, whoever came up with HTML-based email should be tarred >> >> and feathered). >> > Emasculated would be even better. :( >>

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread Joe
On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 08:27:41 -0400 Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 01:02:21PM +0100, Joe wrote: > >No, very occasionally, a proposed change is a clear improvement. > >Usually it's just about altering the distribution of income. > > Rather, in my experience, resistance to change

Re: SSH root login from one ip via certificate only, all other logins password only.

2018-08-29 Thread Joe
On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 13:32:56 +0100 James Allsopp wrote: > Hi, > I need to have one computer I can ssh to other computers as root for > Ansible. To do this I've set up a strong certificate with a password, > but what I want is to only be able to log in as root from one IP > using that cert. All

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:35:21PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: Michael Stone wrote: [...] I personally tend to think that bringing the next billion people online is more important than maintaining a Manichaean priesthood based on internet protocols from the 80s. So, we need to replace HTTP

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread Joe
On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 12:35:21 - (UTC) Dan Purgert wrote: > Michael Stone wrote: > > [...] I personally tend to think that bringing the next billion > > people online is more important than maintaining a Manichaean > > priesthood based on internet protocols from the 80s. > > So, we need to

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread Dan Purgert
Michael Stone wrote: > [...] I personally tend to think that bringing the next billion > people online is more important than maintaining a Manichaean priesthood > based on internet protocols from the 80s. So, we need to replace HTTP then? Got it. :) That being said, "bringing more people

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:25:36PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 29 August 2018 06:37:25 Dan Purgert wrote: > >> (as an aside, whoever came up with HTML-based email should be tarred > >> and feathered). > >

SSH root login from one ip via certificate only, all other logins password only.

2018-08-29 Thread James Allsopp
Hi, I need to have one computer I can ssh to other computers as root for Ansible. To do this I've set up a strong certificate with a password, but what I want is to only be able to log in as root from one IP using that cert. All other users should only log in via a password and can do so from any

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 08:27:41AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 01:02:21PM +0100, Joe wrote: > >No, very occasionally, a proposed change is a clear improvement. > >Usually it's just about altering the distribution of income. >

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread Dan Purgert
Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 29 August 2018 06:37:25 Dan Purgert wrote: >> (as an aside, whoever came up with HTML-based email should be tarred >> and feathered). > Emasculated would be even better. :( perhaps ... but at least tarred and feathered would be a visible reminder to the rest of

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 01:02:21PM +0100, Joe wrote: No, very occasionally, a proposed change is a clear improvement. Usually it's just about altering the distribution of income. Rather, in my experience, resistance to change is usually about preserving the status quo and reinforcing the

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 01:02:21PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 13:58:03 +0200 > wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:55:46PM +0100, Joe wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > >

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 12:24:36 +0100 mick crane wrote: Hello mick, >I use Brave browser mostly with handy shields option. >Some of these media sites have like 80 trackers and wotnot which is >just daft. Agreed, but that's something else. "I don't care..." blocks EU required _warnings_ about

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread Joe
On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 13:58:03 +0200 wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:55:46PM +0100, Joe wrote: > > [...] > > > Change, when it is obviously for the worse, and even just when it's > > not obviously for the better, should be resisted. > >

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:55:46PM +0100, Joe wrote: [...] > Change, when it is obviously for the worse, and even just when it's not > obviously for the better, should be resisted. Change should be *always* resisted. On principle! (Remember: I'm

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread Joe
On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 13:39:12 +0200 wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 06:57:01AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 09:33:16AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > >And Gnus. That's exactly the point all those "yay, modern,

i.e., cannot set XFCE desktop background -- Re: thumbnailing/ image choosing (xfdesktop-settings) no longer working

2018-08-29 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 04:31:35PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 04:12:51PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > For some reason presently unknown to me, XFCE4's xfdesktop-settings > > app no longer shows thumbnails, and the Folder -> Other dialog box > > shows all files and

Re: Cannot Install/Uninstall sendmail

2018-08-29 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 29.08.18 11:57, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > However both sendmail and update-inetd are orphaned at the moment (no > regular maintainers, although Andreas Beckmann has done a lot of work > via the QA team) After favouring sendmail for a decade and a half, I thought I was slow to switch to postfix

Re: Inloggen op Active directory

2018-08-29 Thread René de Groot
Hallo Bas, Zelf gebruik ik authenticatie tegen een AD i.c.m. de sssd deamon. Zoals reeds al aangegeven heb je kerberos nodig, en zorg ook dat je klok goed wordt gesynchroniseerd. Zie deze pagina op de debian wiki; hier staat het m.i. goed beschreven hoe je het aan de gang krijgt

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 06:57:01AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 09:33:16AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >And Gnus. That's exactly the point all those "yay, modern, shiny" > >folks don't "get": > > But what the luddites

Re: Curiositat sobre les IP assignades pels proveïdors

2018-08-29 Thread Narcis Garcia
Entenc que el VXLAN es pot implementar sense dependre del servei de ZeroTier; https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22type+vxlan%22+%22debian%22=web Algú podria recomanar una guia que inclogui la seguretat de IPsec ? El 29/08/18 a les 12:12, Ramon Jové ha escrit: > Bones, > > Depèn del que vulguis fer,

Network issue

2018-08-29 Thread Kevin DAGNEAUX
Hi, I've a server in OVH datacenter, on this server i've 7 VMs, on 1 of them in run Apache. To debug a slow upload (who was ~2Mo/s instead 12Mo/s) i've installed an HTML5/PHP speed test application. When i use this app, i've no problem in general, but, when a make a speed test from a source

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread mick crane
On 2018-08-29 12:09, Brad Rogers wrote: On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 11:05:21 +0100 mick crane wrote: Hello mick, I'm a bit fed up with that stupid cookie notification I have to close on every website anyway. If you use Firefox, install "I don't care about cookies", which disables those warnings

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 29 August 2018 06:57:01 Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 09:33:16AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >And Gnus. That's exactly the point all those "yay, modern, shiny" > >folks don't "get": > > But what the luddites seem to miss is that the protocol is far less >

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 11:05:21 +0100 mick crane wrote: Hello mick, >I'm a bit fed up with that stupid cookie notification I have to close >on every website anyway. If you use Firefox, install "I don't care about cookies", which disables those warnings on most sites. If the warning /isn't/

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 29 August 2018 06:37:25 Dan Purgert wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 29 August 2018 06:05:52 Dan Purgert wrote: > >> Gene Heskett wrote: > >> > On Wednesday 29 August 2018 03:33:16 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >> > [...] But because 99% of my ISP's users use IMAP, my ISP

Re: Cannot Install/Uninstall sendmail

2018-08-29 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 10:42:01AM -0400, Luis Finotti wrote: Thanks for the pointer! sendmail-base.prerm had the line: update-inetd --group MAIL --disable smtp,smtps,submission; and I was getting the error update-inetd: error: --group is only relevant with --add This would appear to be a

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 09:33:16AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: And Gnus. That's exactly the point all those "yay, modern, shiny" folks don't "get": But what the luddites seem to miss is that the protocol is far less important than the content, and even if the luddites don't like the new

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 06:12:15PM +0200, Francesco Porro wrote: > Ciao, > > As a member of this mailing list, I have a little (OT) question for you: > which is the best free email service around to receive mailing lists? Perhaps relevant in this

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2018-08-29 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
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Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread Dan Purgert
Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 29 August 2018 06:05:52 Dan Purgert wrote: > >> Gene Heskett wrote: >> > On Wednesday 29 August 2018 03:33:16 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> > [...] But because 99% of my ISP's users use IMAP, my ISP has >> > disabled fetchmails ability to delete a successfully

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Wednesday, 29 Aug 2018 at 05:54, Gene Heskett wrote: > So I'm an obnoxious old fart, show me an even better way, if you can. > Computers are supposed to do work FOR the user, not the other way around > by creating circuitous ways past the ticket taker. +1 from another old fart. I've

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 06:12:39AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 29 August 2018 04:34:38 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > We get what we pay for [...] > This is also true, but on this side of the pond, the inet service I pay > 40 USD

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 29 August 2018 06:05:52 Dan Purgert wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 29 August 2018 03:33:16 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [...] But because 99% of my ISP's users use IMAP, my ISP has > > disabled fetchmails ability to delete a successfully pulled email, I > > still need

Re: Curiositat sobre les IP assignades pels proveïdors

2018-08-29 Thread Pere Nubiola Radigales
Aquesta es una de les causes del retard de la implementació de IPV6. El negoci associat a la falta de adreces IPV. El dc., 29 d’ag. 2018, 10:51, Narcis Garcia va escriure: > No és el mateix contractar una connexió a internet que una connexió a un > intermediari, el qual és el què té connexió a

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 29 August 2018 06:03:30 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 05:54:38AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] > > > Which is why, in this age of feeding 100 megs of advertising to the > > browser client [...] > > ...for which NNTP would be actually very inefficient ;-D >

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:05:21AM +0100, mick crane wrote: > On 2018-08-29 10:00, Eric S Fraga wrote: > >On Wednesday, 29 Aug 2018 at 09:49, mick crane wrote: > >>But surely email will stop working after Brexit ? > > > >Maybe, maybe not, but you can

Re: Curiositat sobre les IP assignades pels proveïdors

2018-08-29 Thread Ramon Jové
Bones, Depèn del que vulguis fer, potser podries provar ZeroTier. https://www.zerotier.com/ Entre moltes opcions et permet muntar una VPN d'una manera més senzilla, sense necessitat d'obrir els ports al router, ni tenir un servidor VPN configurat amb els seus certificats, etc... La versió Free

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 29 August 2018 04:34:38 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 06:12:15PM +0200, Francesco Porro wrote: > > Ciao, > > > > As a member of this mailing list, I have a little (OT) question for > > you: which is the best free email service around to receive mailing > > lists?

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread Dan Purgert
Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 29 August 2018 03:33:16 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > [...] But because 99% of my ISP's users use IMAP, my ISP has disabled > fetchmails ability to delete a successfully pulled email, I still need > to log in daily [...] > > So I'm an obnoxious old fart, show me

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread mick crane
On 2018-08-29 10:00, Eric S Fraga wrote: On Wednesday, 29 Aug 2018 at 09:49, mick crane wrote: But surely email will stop working after Brexit ? Maybe, maybe not, but you can get that UK residents will lose any data protection they may currently have. I'm a bit fed up with that stupid

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 05:54:38AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] > Which is why, in this age of feeding 100 megs of advertising to the > browser client [...] ...for which NNTP would be actually very inefficient ;-D [...] > procmail, sends the

Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

2018-08-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 29 August 2018 03:33:16 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 08:28:56PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > [...] > > > Last time I looked, Thunderbird & Exchange both support news - a > > newsgroup looks just like another email account. > > And Gnus. That's exactly the

Re: Inloggen op Active directory

2018-08-29 Thread Bas Neve
Hoi Wouter, Welke informatie is er nog meer nodig ? Graag ontvang ik een bevestiging retour. Met vriendelijke groet, Bas Neve bastiaann...@gmail.com 316 14 12 00 71 Op wo 29 aug. 2018 om 11:09 schreef Bas Neve : > Beste mensen, > > > net join -U Administrator > Enter Administrator's

Re: Inloggen op Active directory

2018-08-29 Thread Bas Neve
Beste mensen, net join -U Administrator Enter Administrator's password: Using short domain name -- BWARE Joined 'DEBIAN95' to dns domain 'bware.local' No DNS domain configured for debian95. Unable to perform DNS Update. DNS update failed: NT_STATUS_INVALID_PARAMETER net ads testjoin Join is OK

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Wednesday, 29 Aug 2018 at 09:49, mick crane wrote: > But surely email will stop working after Brexit ? Maybe, maybe not, but you can get that UK residents will lose any data protection they may currently have. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50 & org 9.1.13 on Debian buster/sid

Re: Curiositat sobre les IP assignades pels proveïdors

2018-08-29 Thread Narcis Garcia
No és el mateix contractar una connexió a internet que una connexió a un intermediari, el qual és el què té connexió a internet. Aquesta qüestió terminològica crec que tindria base legal per reclamar, i això tant ha de servir per NAT com per Proxy a l'hora de distingir un producte per connectar a

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread mick crane
On 2018-08-29 09:34, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 06:12:15PM +0200, Francesco Porro wrote: Ciao, As a member of this mailing list, I have a little (OT) question for you: which is the best free email service around to receive mailing lists? As many others have pointed out

Re: Inloggen op Active directory

2018-08-29 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hoi Bas, Ik vind het erg om het te moeten zeggen, maar hier kunnen we nog altijd niet genoeg mee :-) On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 10:11:36AM +0200, Bas Neve wrote: > Hoi Wouter, > > Hierbij nadere info. Ik heb in virtualbox een windows Active domain controller > met een domein bware.local gemaakt..

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 06:12:15PM +0200, Francesco Porro wrote: > Ciao, > > As a member of this mailing list, I have a little (OT) question for you: > which is the best free email service around to receive mailing lists? As many others have pointed

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