which mutt?

2019-05-02 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Debian 9 (amd64), I installed Mutt. The synaptic description says the package is 1.7.2 and has neoMutt patches. But the "V" command in Mutt reports the version as "NeoMutt 20170113 (1.7.2)". I searched and read a number of list threads on the matter of Mutt vs. neoMutt, but most of the

Re: apt pinning: find out from which system version is a package

2019-05-02 Thread Emanuel Berg
Toni Mas wrote: > apt-show-versions script are useful as well. > apt-show-versions is a package itself. It sure is and it sure is exactly what I'm looking for with no need to parse the output to get it exactly to the point: $ apt-show-versions w3m-el-snapshot w3m-el-snapshot:all/testing

Re: apt pinning: find out from which system version is a package

2019-05-02 Thread Emanuel Berg
One can also do it like this: $ aptitude versions w3m-el-snapshot Package w3m-el-snapshot: p 1.4.569+0.20170110-1 stable 500 i 1.4.632+0.20181112-2 testing 800 -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573

Re: apt pinning: find out from which system version is a package

2019-05-02 Thread Emanuel Berg
Francisco M Neto wrote: >> But is there a way to find out/confirm from >> which release is a certain pack? > > You're looking for apt-cache policy. [...] > > $ apt-cache policy gnome-core > gnome-core: > Installed: 1:3.30+1 > Candidate: 1:3.30+1 > Version table: > *** 1:3.30+1 900 >

Re: apt pinning: find out from which system version is a package

2019-05-02 Thread Emanuel Berg
David Wright wrote: > $ apt-cache dump | grep -A 2 '^Package:' | grep -B 2 '^ File:' | sed -e > 'N;N;s/\n/ /g;s/ \+/ /g;N' | grep -v '^--' | sort >> "$Unique1" > $ dpkg-query -W -f '^Package: ${Package} \n' | grep --file=- "$Unique1" | sort That's some heavy parsing, only I don't get it to

Re: apt pinning: find out from which system version is a package

2019-05-02 Thread Emanuel Berg
Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > You can check what branches have the package > you want with "rmadison" command. > > Example: > $ sudo apt install devscripts > $ rmadison linux-image-amd64 > linux-image-amd64 | 3.16+63+deb8u2  | oldstable | amd64, i386 > linux-image-amd64 | 4.9+80+deb9u7  

Re: apt pinning: find out from which system version is a package

2019-05-02 Thread Emanuel Berg
Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Add file > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99aptitude-list-suite-local > eith the following one-line content: > > aptitude::UI::Package-Display-Format "%c%a%M%S %p %Z %t %v %V"; > > ...and install and use aptitude in fullscreen > mode (i.e. start it with no non-option > arguments).

Re: Recherche d'une distribution linux très légère ...

2019-05-02 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On 4/29/19 5:59 PM, Gabriel Moreau wrote: (est-ce qu'un Raspberry consomme vraiment beaucoup moins d'énergie ?) La surconsommation d'une ancienne machine n'est jamais compensée par l'achat d'une nouvelle. Le bilan carbone (+ autre, cf ACV) du à la fabrication et à l'extraction des métaux

Re: Recherche d'une distribution linux très légère ...

2019-05-02 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On 5/2/19 11:09 PM, Haricophile wrote: Le lundi 29 avril 2019 à 17:16 +0200, Jean Bernon a écrit : @Basile Tu as peut-être raison sur le fond, mais le choix de réutiliser une vieille machine n'est pas que nostalgique, c'est aussi un choix écologique (est-ce qu'un Raspberry consomme vraiment

Re: Recherche d'une distribution linux très légère ...

2019-05-02 Thread Haricophile
Le lundi 29 avril 2019 à 17:16 +0200, Jean Bernon a écrit : > @Basile Tu as peut-être raison sur le fond, mais le choix de réutiliser une > vieille machine n'est pas que nostalgique, c'est aussi un choix écologique > (est-ce qu'un Raspberry consomme vraiment beaucoup moins d'énergie ?) A la

Re: configuracao de teclado

2019-05-02 Thread G.Paulo
Caros, todas as sugestoes ate agora falharam. Mas tem uma novidade: Ao reinicializar o computador, o teclado e suas variantes (US e US with dead keys) funcionam perfeitamente, seja no Gnome, seja no Fluxbox. Sempre! Mas... Ao fazer logout e login novamente, o teclado apresenta esse

Re: Is Debian 9 supposed to work on a Geode?

2019-05-02 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 2 May 2019 20:49:28 +0100 Brian wrote: [...] > In #917569 > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=917569 > > Francesco Poli treats upgrading one buster Soekris net5501 installation > to another one. This implies he might very well have been running that > device on

Re: Is Debian 9 supposed to work on a Geode?

2019-05-02 Thread deloptes
Björn Persson wrote: > bw wrote: >> Before you dump it, I'd sure confirm the situation, document the flags >> and file a bug against the release notes, so maybe that can get fixed in >> buster release notes? > > I filed this bug report: > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=928340

Re: How do I trace changes in configuration files?

2019-05-02 Thread Lee
On 5/2/19, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 02 May 2019 at 12:12:19 (-0400), Lee wrote: >> On 5/1/19, David Wright wrote: >> > >> > As for finding where the information went, I sometimes use >> > # find /boot /etc /home /lib /lib64 /var -type f -mmin -1440 -print | >> > less # >> > one day >> > but

Re: forcedeth?

2019-05-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 02 May 2019 14:18:53 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 02/05/2019 à 13:25, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > Ha anything been done to forcedeth since wheezy? > > Why are you asking ? > > > I have installed the LCNC version of stretch > > What is LCNC and how does if differ from vanilla stretch ?

Re: How do I trace changes in configuration files?

2019-05-02 Thread David Wright
On Thu 02 May 2019 at 12:12:19 (-0400), Lee wrote: > On 5/1/19, David Wright wrote: > > > > As for finding where the information went, I sometimes use > > # find /boot /etc /home /lib /lib64 /var -type f -mmin -1440 -print | less # > > one day > > but changing 1440 to something more appropriate,

Re: Is Debian 9 supposed to work on a Geode?

2019-05-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 May 2019 at 15:27:30 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Björn Persson (2019-05-02 15:04:53) > > bw wrote: > > > Before you dump it, I'd sure confirm the situation, document the > > > flags and file a bug against the release notes, so maybe that can > > > get fixed in buster

Re: Is there a way to install Debian iso's from an existing installation onto a USB connected drive?

2019-05-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 May 2019 at 20:21:39 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Brian (2019-05-02 19:35:07) > > On Thu 02 May 2019 at 17:09:26 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > Quoting Brian (2019-05-02 16:01:31) > > > > Which is why I have a udev rule with > > > > > > > > SUBSYSTEM=="block",

Re: Is there a way to install Debian iso's from an existing installation onto a USB connected drive?

2019-05-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Brian (2019-05-02 19:35:07) > On Thu 02 May 2019 at 17:09:26 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Quoting Brian (2019-05-02 16:01:31) > > > Which is why I have a udev rule with > > > > > > SUBSYSTEM=="block", ATTRS{removable}=="1", GROUP="floppy" > > > > > > in it. I might stop doing

Re: forcedeth?

2019-05-02 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 02/05/2019 à 13:25, Gene Heskett a écrit : Ha anything been done to forcedeth since wheezy? Why are you asking ? I have installed the LCNC version of stretch What is LCNC and how does if differ from vanilla stretch ? The network was easy to make work after the install (the installer

Re: Is there a way to install Debian iso's from an existing installation onto a USB connected drive?

2019-05-02 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 wrote: > On Thu, May 02, 2019 at 02:30:30PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: > > [...] > >> > sudo cp downloaded_image /dev/sdb >> >> That's just going to put debian-whatever.iso on the drive ... perhaps >> you meant cat? > > No. Actually cp and cat

Re: Is there a way to install Debian iso's from an existing installation onto a USB connected drive?

2019-05-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 May 2019 at 17:09:26 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Brian (2019-05-02 16:01:31) > > > > I use cat downloaded_image > /dev/sdb > > Is there some benefit to that over cp? None that I know of; it's just something I've used since isohybrids came along. > Reason I prefer cp

Re: How do I trace changes in configuration files?

2019-05-02 Thread Lee
On 5/1/19, David Wright wrote: > > As for finding where the information went, I sometimes use > # find /boot /etc /home /lib /lib64 /var -type f -mmin -1440 -print | less # > one day > but changing 1440 to something more appropriate, like 10 (mins). You can use "find -newer" and not have to

Re: Is Debian 9 supposed to work on a Geode?

2019-05-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Björn Persson (2019-05-02 15:07:00) > Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Most but not all areas that Geode CPUs previously covered, nowadays > > is covered by ARM SoCs. You may find this useful: > > https://wiki.debian.org/CheapServerBoxHardware > > Something ARM-based might well be a

Re: Is there a way to install Debian iso's from an existing installation onto a USB connected drive?

2019-05-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Brian (2019-05-02 16:01:31) > On Thu 02 May 2019 at 15:12:46 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > Quoting Albretch Mueller (2019-05-02 14:42:08) > > > something like: > > > > > > 1) download the iso's > > > > > > 2) go: /dev/sdb > > > > > > where "/dev/sdb" is the device a USB

Re: configuracao de teclado

2019-05-02 Thread Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA , Leandro
Le mer. 1 mai 2019 à 19:32, G.Paulo a écrit : > > Gnome: > Ha duas variantes de teclado: English (US) e English (US, international with > dead keys). A primeira produz os caracteres normais. A segunda nao produz o > caracter acentuado que seria esperado, mas simplesmente o proprio acento. No

Re: Is there a way to install Debian iso's from an existing installation onto a USB connected drive?

2019-05-02 Thread tomas
On Thu, May 02, 2019 at 02:30:30PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: [...] > > sudo cp downloaded_image /dev/sdb > > That's just going to put debian-whatever.iso on the drive ... perhaps > you meant cat? No. Actually cp and cat will do the same (assuming /dev/sdb is the device file). signature.asc

Re: Is there a way to install Debian iso's from an existing installation onto a USB connected drive?

2019-05-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i am trying to make sense of the title of this thread. If it is about putting an existing individual Debian installation as bootable ISO system onto an USB stick: Difficult, at best. If it is about replacing the use of Debian Live on DVD by Debian Live on USB stick, then the proposals of

Re: Is there a way to install Debian iso's from an existing installation onto a USB connected drive?

2019-05-02 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Albretch Mueller (2019-05-02 14:42:08) >> something like: >> >> 1) download the iso's >> >> 2) go: /dev/sdb >> >> where "/dev/sdb" is the device a USB disk is linked to >> >> then you would plug

Re: Is there a way to install Debian iso's from an existing installation onto a USB connected drive?

2019-05-02 Thread Brian
On Thu 02 May 2019 at 15:12:46 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Albretch Mueller (2019-05-02 14:42:08) > > something like: > > > > 1) download the iso's > > > > 2) go: /dev/sdb > > > > where "/dev/sdb" is the device a USB disk is linked to > > > > then you would plug the disk on

Re: Is there a way to install Debian iso's from an existing installation onto a USB connected drive?

2019-05-02 Thread tomas
On Thu, May 02, 2019 at 03:12:46PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: [...] > There is a cargo cult preaching the use of "dd" but that tool is like > cutting trees with scissors: The wrong tool for the job! No cargo cult at all. Each tool has its advantages. The two I appreciate in dd are: -

Re: Is Debian 9 supposed to work on a Geode?

2019-05-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Björn Persson (2019-05-02 15:04:53) > bw wrote: > > Before you dump it, I'd sure confirm the situation, document the > > flags and file a bug against the release notes, so maybe that can > > get fixed in buster release notes? > > I filed this bug report: >

Re: Is there a way to install Debian iso's from an existing installation onto a USB connected drive?

2019-05-02 Thread An Liu
if you dont want to erase the existing contents of your USB stick (or you even dont need a USB stick) then grab vmlinuz and initrd from http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stretch/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/ then place debian install iso of same version under root partition

Re: Is there a way to install Debian iso's from an existing installation onto a USB connected drive?

2019-05-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Albretch Mueller (2019-05-02 14:42:08) > something like: > > 1) download the iso's > > 2) go: /dev/sdb > > where "/dev/sdb" is the device a USB disk is linked to > > then you would plug the disk on your computer and take it from there > > For that I used to burn live DVD but

Re: Is Debian 9 supposed to work on a Geode?

2019-05-02 Thread Björn Persson
Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Most but not all areas that Geode CPUs previously covered, nowadays is > covered by ARM SoCs. You may find this useful: > https://wiki.debian.org/CheapServerBoxHardware Something ARM-based might well be a candidate, yes. Thanks for the list, but its requirements are

Re: Is Debian 9 supposed to work on a Geode?

2019-05-02 Thread Björn Persson
Michael Lange wrote: > maybe you can try to use kernel packages from Antix, they seem to be > debian compatible and still have 486 versions > (see: https://mirror.23media.com/mx-packages/antix/stretch/pool/main/l/) Hmm, possibly an option to consider. At a glance I don't see a way to combine

Re: Is Debian 9 supposed to work on a Geode?

2019-05-02 Thread Björn Persson
bw wrote: > Before you dump it, I'd sure confirm the situation, document the flags and > file a bug against the release notes, so maybe that can get fixed in > buster release notes? I filed this bug report: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=928340 Björn Persson

Re: Is there a way to install Debian iso's from an existing installation onto a USB connected drive?

2019-05-02 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Albretch Mueller wrote: > something like: > > 1) download the iso's > > 2) go: /dev/sdb > > where "/dev/sdb" is the device a USB disk is linked to Something like this, perhaps? dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M -BEGIN PGP

Is there a way to install Debian iso's from an existing installation onto a USB connected drive?

2019-05-02 Thread Albretch Mueller
something like: 1) download the iso's 2) go: /dev/sdb where "/dev/sdb" is the device a USB disk is linked to then you would plug the disk on your computer and take it from there For that I used to burn live DVD but there should be a better way lbrtchx

Re: forcedeth?

2019-05-02 Thread songbird
Gene Heskett wrote: ... > And theres no way to even trace its failure because strace is not > installed. The error message is very explicit, RTNETWORK, whatever the > heck that is, says "file exists", followed by "failed." > > Do I file a bug against forcedeth? or whats next? Or if someone is

Re: Quelle stratégie contre le vol d'un serveur ?

2019-05-02 Thread Philippe LACUEILLE chez neuf
Bonjour. Modérateurs ? Envoyé de mon iPad > Le 2 mai 2019 à 13:32, Stephane Ascoet a > écrit : > >> Le 07/05/2018 à 17:22, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : >> As tu vu l'émission d'Élise Lucet sur FR2 il y a peu, >> le danger est le chiffrage à distance d'un ordinateur. >> Le pirate (et

Re: Quelle stratégie contre le vol d'un serveur ?

2019-05-02 Thread Stephane Ascoet
Le 07/05/2018 à 17:22, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : As tu vu l'émission d'Élise Lucet sur FR2 il y a peu, le danger est le chiffrage à distance d'un ordinateur. Le pirate (et non le hacker) enverra le code de déchiffrage contre quelques bitcoins anonymes. Des entreprises sont alors

forcedeth?

2019-05-02 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; Ha anything been done to forcedeth since wheezy? I have installed the LCNC version of stretch on two machines so far, an old Dell GX520 and this machine, which has an Asus M2n-sli deluxe mobo, which has nvidia ethernet ports using forcedeth. The network was easy to make work

Re: Quelle stratégie contre le vol d'un serveur ?

2019-05-02 Thread Stephane Ascoet
Le 02/05/2019 à 12:37, Gabriel Moreau a écrit : Bonjour, helas dans le monde de l'education c'est tout l'inverse, on revient a fond sur du m$. Et quand tu dis "informatique professionnelle", tu parles des serveurs car a ma connaissance le manchot n'a jamais perce sur les postes des agents.

Re: How do I trace changes in configuration files?

2019-05-02 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 David Wright wrote: > On Wed 01 May 2019 at 18:43:47 (+0200), Erik Josefsson wrote: >> Den 2019-05-01 kl. 13:29, skrev Dan Purgert: >>> [...] >> > Or you can use a revision tool. I ran across "rcs" a few years ago, and >> > while it's not something

Re: Quelle stratégie contre le vol d'un serveur ?

2019-05-02 Thread Gabriel Moreau
Bonjour, helas dans le monde de l'education c'est tout l'inverse, on revient a fond sur du m$. Et quand tu dis "informatique professionnelle", tu parles des serveurs car a ma connaissance le manchot n'a jamais perce sur les postes des agents. Partiellement faux dans certain labo de

Re: Чому Debian не рекомендує встановлювати primary_hostname (exim) власноруч?

2019-05-02 Thread Yuri Kanivetsky
Привіт. Пройшло немало часу але все ж таки хотів відповісти. > Тепер нас тут двоє. :) > Нажаль не знаю відповіді. Якщо потрібно, можу перекласти на Англійську > для debian-user@. Але ж так кожен може :)

Re: Quelle stratégie contre le vol d'un serveur ?

2019-05-02 Thread Florian Blanc
Pam_tally On Thu, May 2, 2019, 11:15 Stephane Ascoet wrote: > Le 08/05/2018 à 17:43, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : > > de l'informatique professionnelle au profit de Linux, > > Bonjour, helas dans le monde de l'education c'est tout l'inverse, on > revient a fond sur du m$. Et quand tu

Profesjonalne Strony i Sklepy internetowe.

2019-05-02 Thread Strony, Sklepy WWW
Dzień dobry, zajmujemy się tworzeniem nowoczesnych, responsywnych /*Stron *i *Sklepów internetowych. */ Jeżeli chcieliby Państwo otrzymać bezpłatną propozycję w tym zakresie dla Państwa firmy prosimy o odpowiedź "*TAK*". - Pozdrawiamy, Twórcy Stron i Sklepów WWW.

Re: How do I trace changes in configuration files?

2019-05-02 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Erik, On Wed, May 01, 2019 at 11:35:48AM +0200, Erik Josefsson wrote: > I have tried to document my personal preferences before, but I have always > ended up with unreadable handwritten notes. > > This time I thought I should do it in a more systematic way by somehow > capture the difference

Re: Quelle stratégie contre le vol d'un serveur ?

2019-05-02 Thread Stephane Ascoet
Le 08/05/2018 à 17:43, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : de l'informatique professionnelle au profit de Linux, Bonjour, helas dans le monde de l'education c'est tout l'inverse, on revient a fond sur du m$. Et quand tu dis "informatique professionnelle", tu parles des serveurs car a ma

Re: modifier le rétro-éclairage avec python-xlib

2019-05-02 Thread Damien
salut! Le Thu, May 02, 2019 at 10:53:24AM +0200, Jean Bernon a écrit : Ces scripts posent un petit problème. Le simple utilisateur de xbindkeys n'est pas autorisé à écrire dans /sys/class et j'ai dû mettre un suid au programme xbindkeys (chmod u+s /usr/bin/xbindkeys) pour que ça marche, ce

Re: modifier le rétro-éclairage avec python-xlib

2019-05-02 Thread fab
'lut, Ces scripts posent un petit problème. Le simple utilisateur de xbindkeys n'est pas autorisé à écrire dans /sys/class et j'ai dû mettre un suid au programme xbindkeys (chmod u+s /usr/bin/xbindkeys) pour que ça marche, ce qui n'est sans doute pas top côté sécurité. Mais peut-être qu'avec

Re: modifier le rétro-éclairage avec python-xlib

2019-05-02 Thread Jean Bernon
J'ai rencontré un problème analogue sur un PC et le l'ai réglé avec deux scripts bash, l'un pour augmenter la luminosité, l'autre pour la diminuer, que j'ai liés à des touches de fonctions avec xbindkeys. Le script pour augmenter la luminosité : lum=`cat

[Hors sujet informatique] commémoration du 1er mai à Strasbourg

2019-05-02 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
> bonjour, > > en souvenir des disparut de la 2e guerre mondiale des pierres > d'achoppement ont été posées à Strasbourg le 1er mais 2019 ... > > voici l'article traitant du sujet : > http://www.stolpersteine.lautre.net/wp/poses-du-1er-mai-2019/ > > pour ceux qui n'ont pas compris l'ampleur de

Re: Recherche d'une distribution linux très légère ...

2019-05-02 Thread Stephane Ascoet
Le 29/04/2019 à 15:54, platus.olivier a écrit : La machine cible : pentium 2 300MHz 512Mo graphique radeon 64Mo. Bonjour, un ordinateur presque identique en caractéristiques tournait fort bien dans ma famille(il est actuellement helas dans un carton) sous Debian Etch pour un usage

Re: batch process jpegs

2019-05-02 Thread mick crane
On 2019-05-01 21:17, Siard wrote: mick crane wrote: I've got a bunch of jpgs from the camera where the bits I want are a bit underexposed. What I'd like is a GUI that will batch process them. [] Any suggestions for available GUI that will batch process jpgs ? First, you could install

Re: batch process jpegs

2019-05-02 Thread mick crane
On 2019-05-02 06:21, mick crane wrote: On 2019-05-01 19:15, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Quoting mick crane (2019-05-01 19:59:06) I've got a bunch of jpgs from the camera where the bits I want are a bit underexposed. What I'd like is a GUI that will batch process them. It's been a few years since

Re: Request for a Good Practice for webdev doc.

2019-05-02 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 28.04.2019 21:42, aprekates wrote: > Experimenting with wsgi and python webapp dev > i came upon issues and roads to choose mainly > regarding to installation , deployment and security > related issues. > > sudo pip install ..   or  pip install > > is virtualenv secure or is just redicect