Re: Speed of USB ports on Inspiron 1501
On 2020-03-22 17:30, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to all who replied, to either this thread or my other related one, "OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station". On Sunday, March 22, 2020 03:37:57 PM David Christensen wrote: ... So, ~$110 for better wired network performance and the convenience of one cable vs. five cables, on a machine that is overdue for replacement. The saying is, "throwing good money after bad". Perhaps. I need / want a docking station of some sort in any case (i.e., even if I later upgrade the laptop), and this looks like a reasonable choice, especially because I need VGA output to go through my KVM switch (which had to match one of my (mini-)tower computers which has only VGA output (no HDMI). (I need / want the docking station so I can easily unplug the laptop to take it to various meetings (of which there are less of lately because of the Covid19 thing). I did learn about ExpressCards / Cardbus, and found a dual USB 3.0 ExpressCard on ebay for under $10. I've ordered both and I'll see what happens. If I have to upgrade the laptop, that remains a possibility. If I am reading the user manual for my E1505 and the Intel ICH7 datasheet correctly, the ExpressCard port in my laptop should be PCIe 1x at 2.5 Gbps. I would expect your E1501 to be equivalent (?). Please let us know how the ExpressCard dual USB 3.0 adapter and docking station work with Debian. Be prompt about testing and keep all the boxes, packaging, etc., in pristine condition, so you can return everything within the time window if there are problems. David
Re: Buster without systemd?
On 2020-03-22 at 21:21, Marc Shapiro wrote: > Supposedly, one can install/upgrade to Buster while maintaining sysv > as init. Or has this changed. Over the past several months I have > been attempting to upgrade to Buster, but I have been completely > unsuccessful. > > Has anyone managed to upgrade to Buster without installing systemd, > or jumping through hoops that would drive a lion tamer mad? > > I made a copy of all of my partitions so that I could do the upgrade > while maintaining Stretch in case something went wrong. I'm glad > that I did! > > The first time that I tried this, I actually managed to upgrade to > Buster and have everything appear to work. Then I realized that I > had only done an "upgrade" but not a "full-upgrade". After that, X > would not start. I have, as I said, spent several months trying to > get X working on Buster without systemd. I have not been successful. > None of my later attempts ever got a working Buster with X, at all. How are you starting X? I start it manually from the console via startx, and in order for that to work, I've needed the xserver-xorg-legacy package and some matching settings configured locally. IIRC that around the time of the systemd switchover (not necessarily tied to systemd itself), there were changes made in the way X is to be launched, such that with the right configuration it can be run without root rights - but that if you don't have that configuration, and you're not launching X as root directly, you need this "legacy" setup. Last time I was looking at it, I don't think I found any practical way to do that configuration without systemd or some replication of part of its functionality. For what it's worth, I track current testing, and the only systemd-related packages on my system that I know of are libsystemd0 and udev. I certainly don't have any problems with starting X. I did the initial upgrade around the time of the original init-systems GR, and have been tracking testing in this way ever since; the most I've had to do is wrangle some package pins to avoid having some dependency attempt to install libpam-systemd (and therefore switch the init system to systemd) on package install or dist-upgrade, and that hasn't been particularly hard for quite some time now. -- The Wanderer The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Buster without systemd?
Supposedly, one can install/upgrade to Buster while maintaining sysv as init. Or has this changed. Over the past several months I have been attempting to upgrade to Buster, but I have been completely unsuccessful. Has anyone managed to upgrade to Buster without installing systemd, or jumping through hoops that would drive a lion tamer mad? I made a copy of all of my partitions so that I could do the upgrade while maintaining Stretch in case something went wrong. I'm glad that I did! The first time that I tried this, I actually managed to upgrade to Buster and have everything appear to work. Then I realized that I had only done an "upgrade" but not a "full-upgrade". After that, X would not start. I have, as I said, spent several months trying to get X working on Buster without systemd. I have not been successful. None of my later attempts ever got a working Buster with X, at all. Is it possible to do what I want? Or, after 21 to 22 years of using Debian (since Bo), do I have to switch to another linux distro? I would rather not have to switch, but you choose the distro that suits your needs, and if Debian no longer suits my needs then I may have to. Marc
Re: Debian 10 Installation Question
Hello, I also can recommend for you that, better if you reinstall your system from zero. The installer is very easy. If you'll confuse in the questions, it can be a good idea if you posting the question and the people will support you from here. Ciao, Imre On 2020. 03. 22. 18:58, "Brian" wrote: On Sun 22 Mar 2020 at 11:08:53 -0500, Jakub Kuzmicki wrote: > Hello, > > I recently installed Debian 10 on my Dell XPS 15 7590. I was able to get > > through majority of the installation up until the network mirroring > > portion. I skipped that part since I wasn't able to find a recognizable > > mirror to use. So now, when I turn on my computer and boot Debian, I am > > sent to the terminal. I read somewhere that I can set up the network mirror > > through this terminal. > > My question is, what can I do to fix this issue? Am I not able to boot > Debian because network mirroring is not set up? I would probably need > instructions on exactly what to type to get this done if thats the case. First follow Henning Follman's advice. Installing again will be good practice for you. At the network mirroring portion look for deb.debian.org This is best for you as a mirror. -- Brian.
Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station
Thanks to all who replied, to either this thread or my other related one, "Speed of USB ports on Inspiron 1501". In that other thread, I point out that I decided to buy a Wavlink 3.0 docking station (with HDMI, DVI, and VGA video outputs) (on sale today at Newegg) and a dual USB 3.0 ExpressCard on ebay (for under $10). Thanks to Dave Christensen for pointing out the throughput I'd need for VGA 1080p (187 MB/s at 30 fps) -- I'm hoping that won't really be a problem as I don't plan to use graphic intensive applications on the laptop, although I'm not sure whether it will be a problem -- I'll be using things like kate, kmail, and then command line stuff to work on some programs.
Re: Speed of USB ports on Inspiron 1501
Thanks to all who replied, to either this thread or my other related one, "OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station". On Sunday, March 22, 2020 03:37:57 PM David Christensen wrote: ... > So, ~$110 for better wired network performance and the convenience of > one cable vs. five cables, on a machine that is overdue for replacement. > > > The saying is, "throwing good money after bad". Perhaps. I need / want a docking station of some sort in any case (i.e., even if I later upgrade the laptop), and this looks like a reasonable choice, especially because I need VGA output to go through my KVM switch (which had to match one of my (mini-)tower computers which has only VGA output (no HDMI). (I need / want the docking station so I can easily unplug the laptop to take it to various meetings (of which there are less of lately because of the Covid19 thing). I did learn about ExpressCards / Cardbus, and found a dual USB 3.0 ExpressCard on ebay for under $10. I've ordered both and I'll see what happens. If I have to upgrade the laptop, that remains a possibility.
Re: Python_2.7
Removi e por hora tudo normal, se der algum problema reinstalo ele, obrigado. -- Ricardo Libanio On Dom, 22 mar 2020 20:30:04 -0300 osvaldoluci...@gmail.com wrote Uma sugestão, usando uma interface gráfica como o Synaptic, acesse esse gerenciador, busque o pacote que quer analisar, selecione-o e clique na guia propriedades. Nela você poderá analisar todas as dependências, os dependentes, relações com últimas versões... inclusive todos os arquivos instalados referentes àquele pacote! É uma boa forma de familiarizar-se com o sistema. att, Osvaldo Em dom., 22 de mar. de 2020 às 18:41, Ricardo Libanio escreveu: Uso a testing, removi aqui reiniciei e esta tudo funcionando, removeu um monte de coisa do node- nem sei o que é isto, vou deixar assim mesmo, valeu. Em 22/03/2020 18:33, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA escreveu: > Le dimanche 22 mars 2020 à 18:29 -0300, Ricardo Libanio a écrit : >> Olá, uso debian aqui no meu note e vejo que ele tem duas versões do >> pyton a 2 e a 3. Minha duvida é posso remover a versão 2.7 e ficar >> apenas com a versão 3.7? Ou esta versão tem dependências que >> comprometa o sistema? > Depende da versão do Debian. Creio que, a menos que estejas na > instável, deve ainda haver dependências importantes. Mas basta testar: > um apt purge python2.7 ou coisa que o valha mostrar-te-á. > > > -- > skype:leandro.gfc.dutra?chat Yahoo!: ymsgr:sendIM?lgcdutra > +55 (61) 3546 7191 gTalk: xmpp:leand...@jabber.org > +55 (61) 9302 2691 ICQ/AIM: aim:GoIM?screenname=61287803 > BRAZIL GMT−3 MSN: msnim:chat?contact=lean...@dutra.fastmail.fm > >
Re: Python_2.7
Uma sugestão, usando uma interface gráfica como o Synaptic, acesse esse gerenciador, busque o pacote que quer analisar, selecione-o e clique na guia propriedades. Nela você poderá analisar todas as dependências, os dependentes, relações com últimas versões... inclusive todos os arquivos instalados referentes àquele pacote! É uma boa forma de familiarizar-se com o sistema. att, Osvaldo Em dom., 22 de mar. de 2020 às 18:41, Ricardo Libanio escreveu: > Uso a testing, removi aqui reiniciei e esta tudo funcionando, removeu um > monte de coisa do node- nem sei o que é isto, vou deixar assim mesmo, > valeu. > > Em 22/03/2020 18:33, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA escreveu: > > Le dimanche 22 mars 2020 à 18:29 -0300, Ricardo Libanio a écrit : > >> Olá, uso debian aqui no meu note e vejo que ele tem duas versões do > >> pyton a 2 e a 3. Minha duvida é posso remover a versão 2.7 e ficar > >> apenas com a versão 3.7? Ou esta versão tem dependências que > >> comprometa o sistema? > > Depende da versão do Debian. Creio que, a menos que estejas na > > instável, deve ainda haver dependências importantes. Mas basta testar: > > um apt purge python2.7 ou coisa que o valha mostrar-te-á. > > > > > > -- > > skype:leandro.gfc.dutra?chat Yahoo!: ymsgr:sendIM?lgcdutra > > +55 (61) 3546 7191 gTalk: xmpp:leand...@jabber.org > > +55 (61) 9302 2691ICQ/AIM: aim:GoIM?screenname=61287803 > > BRAZIL GMT−3 MSN: msnim:chat?contact=lean...@dutra.fastmail.fm > > > > > >
Re: [testing] Webcam, led, micro
Le dimanche 22 mars 2020 à 04:18 +0100, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : > - Mail original - > > > De: "Gaëtan Perrier" > > À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org > > Envoyé: Dimanche 22 Mars 2020 03:53:20 > > Objet: Re: [testing] Webcam, led, micro > > Salut, > > J'ai du mal à saisir le rapport entre vokoscreen et une webcam ? > > Gaëtan > > bonjour, > > > ensuite, vokoscreen permet de créer une config pour la webcam et aussi > un fichier pour le microphone point asoundrc Ne fonctionne pas mieux niveau son que les autres logiciels. > > > ensuite, d'après la doc du rasb pi : > > Works with $> guvcview -s 320x240 -f yv12 -t 5 -n rec5sec.mkv --exit_on_close > --no_display, but not with command $> fswebcam -r 160x120 -d v4l2:/dev/video0 > test.jpg Cette commande ne concerne que la vidéo et pas l'audio. Mais sinon guvcview via sa GUI permet bien de régler le son mais l'entrée ausio SPC 1300 NC ne fonctionne pas mieux que sur les autres logiciels. Gaëtan signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Doublets cartes/sorties
Bonsoir, Je tente des tests de profiles de cartes son et j'ai besoin de les stocker sous forme de tableau comme ceci : carte1 sortie1 carte1 sortie2 carte1 sortie3 carte2 sortie1 carte2 sortie2 carte3 sortie1 Je fais ceci : pacmd list-cards | sed -n 's/^\tname: <\(.*\)>$/\1/p; s/^\t\+output:\([^:]\+\).*$/\1/p' Ainsi je n'ai pas les paires "cartes/sorties" mais tout est en ligne... Avec des boucles je ne m'en sors pas et j'ai une peur de awk. Quelqu'en saurait-il faire cela ? Merci !!! pierre estrem
Re: Python_2.7
Uso a testing, removi aqui reiniciei e esta tudo funcionando, removeu um monte de coisa do node- nem sei o que é isto, vou deixar assim mesmo, valeu. Em 22/03/2020 18:33, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA escreveu: Le dimanche 22 mars 2020 à 18:29 -0300, Ricardo Libanio a écrit : Olá, uso debian aqui no meu note e vejo que ele tem duas versões do pyton a 2 e a 3. Minha duvida é posso remover a versão 2.7 e ficar apenas com a versão 3.7? Ou esta versão tem dependências que comprometa o sistema? Depende da versão do Debian. Creio que, a menos que estejas na instável, deve ainda haver dependências importantes. Mas basta testar: um apt purge python2.7 ou coisa que o valha mostrar-te-á. -- skype:leandro.gfc.dutra?chat Yahoo!: ymsgr:sendIM?lgcdutra +55 (61) 3546 7191 gTalk: xmpp:leand...@jabber.org +55 (61) 9302 2691ICQ/AIM: aim:GoIM?screenname=61287803 BRAZIL GMT−3 MSN: msnim:chat?contact=lean...@dutra.fastmail.fm
Re: Python_2.7
Le dimanche 22 mars 2020 à 18:29 -0300, Ricardo Libanio a écrit : > Olá, uso debian aqui no meu note e vejo que ele tem duas versões do > pyton a 2 e a 3. Minha duvida é posso remover a versão 2.7 e ficar > apenas com a versão 3.7? Ou esta versão tem dependências que > comprometa o sistema? Depende da versão do Debian. Creio que, a menos que estejas na instável, deve ainda haver dependências importantes. Mas basta testar: um apt purge python2.7 ou coisa que o valha mostrar-te-á. -- skype:leandro.gfc.dutra?chat Yahoo!: ymsgr:sendIM?lgcdutra +55 (61) 3546 7191 gTalk: xmpp:leand...@jabber.org +55 (61) 9302 2691ICQ/AIM: aim:GoIM?screenname=61287803 BRAZIL GMT−3 MSN: msnim:chat?contact=lean...@dutra.fastmail.fm
Python_2.7
Olá, uso debian aqui no meu note e vejo que ele tem duas versões do pyton a 2 e a 3. Minha duvida é posso remover a versão 2.7 e ficar apenas com a versão 3.7? Ou esta versão tem dependências que comprometa o sistema? Desde já agradeço a atenção de todos.
Re: Boot process hangs at, it seems, network initialisation
Brad Rogers wrote: > Failed to start NVIDIA Persistence Daemon have you looked this up, I find it several times on ddg. what does dmesg say? Can you install systemd-bootchart and have a look at the bootchart (probably on another machine)? Bernd
Re: moyen de partager un écran
Bonsoir, Je travaille avec ça https://www.dwservice.net/ Pas testé sous Debian mais avec le système omniprésent ça fonctionne (un peu moins bien en ce moment mais on comprend pourquoi) et c'est très simple d'utilisation. Bonne soirée. Stéphane Le 22/03/2020 à 20:44, Jose CHARTERS a écrit : > Bonsoir, > > Je recherche un outil pour partager une partie de mon écran. > > Je fais du soutien scolaire de manière bénévole. > > Avec la situation actuelle, évidemment les rencontres ont été arrêtées. > Par contre, les jeunes ont toujours des devoirs et ont besoin d'aide. > > J'ai reçu aujourd'hui l'appel de l'eux des jeunes pour une aide sur un > problème de maths. Il découvrais la trigonométrie et était perdu. Je > l'ai aidé par téléphone. > > J'ai essayé avec framatalk, mais son navigateur semblait trop vieux pour > suivre. > > J'ai cherché sur le net, mais je n'ai pas trouvé ce que je cherchais. Je > pense que je n'ai pas utilisé le bon vocabulaire. > > Ce que je souhaite, c'est que nous ayons un écran partagé, pour pouvoir > y faire des graphiques chacun de son coté et que tous les deux voient ce > qui se passe sur cet écran. > > J'ai vu des moyens de communication audio, vidéo, chat, échange de > documents, mais pas de partage d'écran ou d'écran commun à travers le > réseau. > > Évidement, qui fonctionne sous Debian, car c'est mon système et je n'en > ai pas d'autres. Mais également sur le système omniprésent car, je ne > peux pas imposer Debian aux élèves. J'aimerais bien mais c'est une autre > question. > > SI cela fonctionne, je pourrais continuer à aider ces jeunes avec un > logiciel libre. > > Cordialement, > > José >
moyen de partager un écran
Bonsoir, Je recherche un outil pour partager une partie de mon écran. Je fais du soutien scolaire de manière bénévole. Avec la situation actuelle, évidemment les rencontres ont été arrêtées. Par contre, les jeunes ont toujours des devoirs et ont besoin d'aide. J'ai reçu aujourd'hui l'appel de l'eux des jeunes pour une aide sur un problème de maths. Il découvrais la trigonométrie et était perdu. Je l'ai aidé par téléphone. J'ai essayé avec framatalk, mais son navigateur semblait trop vieux pour suivre. J'ai cherché sur le net, mais je n'ai pas trouvé ce que je cherchais. Je pense que je n'ai pas utilisé le bon vocabulaire. Ce que je souhaite, c'est que nous ayons un écran partagé, pour pouvoir y faire des graphiques chacun de son coté et que tous les deux voient ce qui se passe sur cet écran. J'ai vu des moyens de communication audio, vidéo, chat, échange de documents, mais pas de partage d'écran ou d'écran commun à travers le réseau. Évidement, qui fonctionne sous Debian, car c'est mon système et je n'en ai pas d'autres. Mais également sur le système omniprésent car, je ne peux pas imposer Debian aux élèves. J'aimerais bien mais c'est une autre question. SI cela fonctionne, je pourrais continuer à aider ces jeunes avec un logiciel libre. Cordialement, José
Re: Speed of USB ports on Inspiron 1501
On 2020-03-22 10:10, rhkramer wrote: Background: I'm now thinking about buying a Wavlink USB 3.0 Display Universal Docking Station Dual Video HDMI/DVI/VGA, USB 3.0 & USB 2.0, Gigabit Ethernet Ports, Earphone & Mic in/out, Plug and Play For Windows Mac & Android 5.x Above - Black to use as a docking station for my Inspiron 1501 (because it is on sale today at Newegg). https://www.newegg.com/black-wavlink-ug39dk1/p/1DN-0023-5? reviews=all=9SIA6PF3RX9775_medium=Email_source=ShellShocker_mmc=EMC- SD032020-_-SD03222020-_-Item-_-9SIA6PF3RX9775=i-1NHD-Q7H-1Hk-27tE1G-2G- BLEn-1c-6C6-267oWf- l4P01kz1G5-7m9VI_rid=1948861950_mid=4944=cmhrcmFtZXJAZ21haWwuY29t It doesn't specifically say (in the specs) that it works with Linux, but one of the reviewers / commentors / customers mentions that he uses it with Linux (and, iiuc, that requires use of a DisplayLink driver). My other concern is with the speed of the USB ports. The description claims that it works with either a USB 3.0 or a USB 2.0 connection to the laptop (the 1501's USB ports are 2.0). I think that would work for me if the USB 2.0 port (or at least one of them) was the high speed version (480 Mbps) (vs. the "standard" USB 2.0 which seems to be 12 Mbps. (I say this because I don't (and don't intend to play games on this machine, or view things like youtube videos which might require a high video bandwidth.) getting to the question: So, I'm trying to find the speed of the USB ports. I've struck out on googling for the information online, so I started digging into trying to find the information in Linux. I found some instructions online that suggest running the command: rhk@s32:~$ cat /sys/bus/usb/devices/usb?/speed And I see this: 480 12 12 12 12 12 I've also experimented with viewing other parameters in the /sys/bus/usb/ devices/usb? Some of the results indicate that there are 6 USB "devices" (let me say, internal to the computer), but there are only 4 actual external physical ports. I don't know if maybe one of them (usb1) is 480 Mbps and the others are 12 Mbps, or maybe the 480 Mbps is either an internal port (with no physical port) or maybe something like a bus speed for the combination of all 6 USB ports. I will continue to experiment, but any suggestions are welcome. PS: I am subscribed to the mail list under a slightly different email address and will be able to view responses. I bought a refurbished Dell E1505 in 2007. It appears to have the same externals as your E1501. It works well enough with Windows XP, Debian, and FressBSD. Over the years I have invested in various upgrades and repairs -- Intel 64-bit processor (exceeds factory specifications), 2 @ 1 GB memory modules (maximum supported), 60 GB SSD, Intel Wi-Fi adapter, replacement DVD-RW drive, replacement CPU fan, replacement batteries, etc.. It is my desktop daily driver. I use a Core i7-2600S tower when I need more power. If I bought that docking station, I would connect VGA 1080p (187 MB/s at 30 fps), Gigabit Ehternet (100 MB/s), USB 2.0 keyboard (<1 MB/s), USB 2.0 mouse (<1 MB/s), and audio (<1 MB/s). The USB 2.0 ports on my E1505 max out around 30 MB/s, which is asking for problems. So, I would also need to buy an Express Card to USB 3.0 adapter (I would get the StarTech 54mm dual port USB 3.0 for $41). So, ~$110 for better wired network performance and the convenience of one cable vs. five cables, on a machine that is overdue for replacement. The saying is, "throwing good money after bad". I would put my money into a used, refurbished, etc., Dell Latitude or Precision laptop with a second-generator or newer Intel Core processor and integrated graphics. eBay has several to choose from at that price level: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=dell+latitude&_sacat=0_TitleDesc=0&_udhi=100_BIN=1=nc&_oaa=1&_dcat=177 https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313.TR11.TRC2.A0.H0.Xdell+precision.TRS1&_nkw=dell+precision&_sacat=0_TitleDesc=1&_udhi=100&_osacat=0&_odkw=dell+latitude+6520+i7-2720QM_BIN=1 Desktops are cheaper. Cosmetic grade C, incomplete, parts-only, etc., machines are even cheaper. David
Re: Debian 10 Installation Question
On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 11:27 AM Jakub Kuzmicki wrote: > Hello, > > I recently installed Debian 10 on my Dell XPS 15 7590. I was able to get >> through majority of the installation up until the network mirroring >> portion. I skipped that part since I wasn't able to find a recognizable >> mirror to use. > > Do you mean none of the mirrors worked? That means the network portion of the install failed. If you're installing from a netboot installer, that means the installer won't be able to go out and get the rest of what it needs to finish installation. So now, when I turn on my computer and boot Debian, I am sent to the >> terminal. I read somewhere that I can set up the network mirror through >> this terminal. > > My question is, what can I do to fix this issue? Am I not able to boot > Debian because network mirroring is not set up? I would probably need > instructions on exactly what to type to get this done if thats the case. > > When you mean you are sent to a terminal, do you mean you're sent to a login in a terminal? Can you log in? If so, you have installed Debian, although it might be a very minimal Debian. Can you ping anything (like "ping 8.8.8.8"? Ctrl-C to stop the ping attempts.)? If so, we can probably pick up the pieces from here (try "tasksel", and installing the X11 windowing system/Gnome/KDE/etc). If you can't ping anything, your networking is still broken, and we'll need more details. -- > Jakub Kuzmicki > -- Kent West<")))>< Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com
Re: Falha no Boot - Positivo Mobo S7 (Programa UCA)
Olá pessoal! Leandro, a Positivo não oferece nem mais informações sobre esse produto em seu suporte. Logo, na minha situação, sem chances de arriscar uma atualização de BIOS por outras referências. Mas, obrigado pela atenção! "nandre@", as fontes e baterias são todas originais - e esse problema acontece tanto com as máquinas em que as baterias não mantêm a carga quanto nas que mantêm. Também não dá para visualizar a mensagem em tela porque na etapa em que o boot pára fica apenas uma tela preta! Mas, é ótimo conhecer este tipo de erro possível. Muito obrigado! Vou continuar a pesquisar e mesmo não encontrando, basta ensinarmos as crianças a ultrapassarem este simples obstáculo! Só não vai ficar "elegante"! rs. Mas, valerá a pena - só em São Carlos são 1700 que foram comprados, no Brasil estima-se 225 mil netbooks vendidos pela Positivo aos governos! Abraços e seguimos na luta! Osvaldo Em qui., 19 de mar. de 2020 às 14:28, ndre escreveu: > Olá Osvaldo, > > ter 17 mar 2020 às 20:56:24 (1584489384), osvaldoluci...@gmail.com enviou: > > Saudações pessoal, > > > > Sou professor das séries iniciais e peço ajuda nesta lista. Estou > > trabalhando no desafio de tentar resgatar para o uso aqueles classmates > > (design da Intel) que a Positivo vendeu ao governo brasileiro no Programa > > UCA (Um Computador por Aluno). Originalmente ele veio com o Mandriva > Mini. > > Mesmo neste SO original eles estão apresentando um problema: > > *- a BIOS (Phoenix SecureCore vs ec 1.01) inicia, mas após fazer a > leitura > > completa do hardware, pára e não inicia o grub, fica uma tela preta; só > > consegue iniciá-lo na segunda tentativa. Nesta tela preta, qualquer tecla > > pressionada faz ele reiniciar.* > > > > Fiz uma customização do debian, com xfce e várias suítes de jogos do kde, > > com alguns aplicativos do projeto DebianEdu também (tudo num cartão de > 4G) > > e acho que consegui dar um fôlego maior a esses equipamentos públicos. > > Hoje, estou trabalhando com uma customização do Debian9.11/XFCE4.12. > Porém, > > estou com aquele problema no boot. Só na segunda tentativa inicializa. E > o > > mais curioso, se for curto o intervalo entre o desligamento e o novo > boot, > > ele inicializa normalmente (ou seja, na terceira, na quarta... > tentativas). > > > > Alguém conhece as razões do problema ou tem hipóteses para investigação? > > > > Agradeço muito e abraços a todos! > > Você sabe se a fonte de energia desses computadores é original > do fabricante? > > Pergunto porque tive um problema _parecido_ ao trocar uma fonte > por outra genérica. A inicialização era interrompida logo no > início com uma mensagem de erro informando a inadequação da > amperagem/voltagem. Pressionando qualquer tecla a inicialização > prosseguia. > > No seu caso, eu pesquisaria no site do fabricante acerca dos > "bios boot error codes/signal". Essas mensagens de erro > geralmente são por sinais sonoros ou luminosos. Observe se > há algum tipo de repetição luminosa parecida com um código > morse e compare com as informações do fabricante. Isso > provavelmente significa que algum componente não está > funcionando da forma esperada ou que algum conector está > com defeito. A solução seria então identificar qual o > componente/conector defeituoso e consertá-lo. > > Boa sorte! > >
Re: Speed of USB ports on Inspiron 1501
rhkramer wrote: > I don't know if maybe one of them (usb1) is 480 Mbps and the others are 12 > Mbps, or maybe the 480 Mbps is either an internal port (with no physical > port) or maybe something like a bus speed for the combination of all 6 USB > ports. > check if you have loaded xhci_* driver 480 = USB2 12 = USB1 regards
Re: Boot process hangs at, it seems, network initialisation
On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 14:00:49 -0400 Marc Auslander wrote: Hello Marc, >Could it be https://wiki.debian.org/BoottimeEntropyStarvation I thought that had been resolved some while ago. However, no amount of random keypressing resulted in progress. Thanks for the suggestion. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" Life goes quick and it goes without warning Bombsite Boy - The Adverts pgpQJRtchuWD8.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [testing] pb impression Attestation Déplacement
Le dimanche 22 mars 2020 à 17:58 +0100, François LE GAD a écrit : > Le 21/03/2020 à 23:49, Gaëtan Perrier a écrit : > > Sur ce site https://www.gouvernement.fr/info-coronavirus cette > > "première" version a été remplacée par une version qui n'a plus ce > > problème de longueur de champ mais qui depuis evince ne s'imprime pas > > bien. Depuis Acrobat Reader sous Windows l'impression est parfaite. > > J'ai ouvert le pdf dans LibreOffice pour le préremplir. > Il ne me reste plus ensuite qu'à cocher la bonne case, dater et signer. > Pas de problème d'impression avec Atril. > Atril ne permet pas de remplir le pdf directement ? Gaëtan signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Boot process hangs at, it seems, network initialisation
On 3/22/2020 10:50 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: Hello, For the first time, I'm having problems installing Debian testing on new hardware; Asus TUF X570 Plus mobo with onboard Realtek network L8200A i/f As things stand, it /seems/ that the boot process is waiting for the network interface to come up, before proceeding to start the SDDM log in manager. Switching to tty2 and logging in would appear to bear this out, as attempting to ping anything other than LAN machinery results in 'No route to host' reports. The package firmware-realtek from testing has been installed. The OS was installed using a net-install CD, so clearly, the network card is working. Having never previously encountered network i/f issues myself, I'm really rather at a loss as to how I should proceed. /etc/network/interfaces reads (comments & empty lines omitted); source /etc/networks/interfaces.d/* auto lo iface lo inet loopback /etc/networks/interfaces.d/ is an empty directory. For the sake of full disclosure, I see this; [FAILED] Failed to start NVIDIA Persistence Daemon during the boot process. I suspect it has little bearing on the issue I'm experiencing, but mention it 'just in case'. My $SEARCH foo has turned up nothing recent, only stuff from 2002, 2009 or thereabouts. IDK how to proceed. Ideas and pointers (even moral support) sought and welcomed. Thank you. Could it be https://wiki.debian.org/BoottimeEntropyStarvation (I tried to post this elsewhere - if it works forgive the double post)
[Solved] Re: Boot process hangs at, it seems, network initialisation
On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 17:43:56 +
Daniel Harris wrote:
Hello Daniel,
>are you using dhcp or static ip addresses
I never entered addresses for IP during installation, so dhcp I suspect.
>what is in /etc/resolv.conf
search home
nameserver 192.168.1.1
nameserver 2001:8b0::2020
nameserver 2001:8b0::2021
This matches with machines where networking is okay.
{time passes}
Having done some experimentation on other machines (I hadn't previously),
I can see now that network connectivity okay.
ipv6 results confused me. Mea Culpa.
Sorry for the noise and wasting of your time.
Thank you Daniel and Felix for your assistance. It's much appreciated.
I'll have to look elsewhere for a solution.
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/ _)radnever immediately apparent"
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Re: Boot process hangs at, it seems, network initialisation
So you say you can ping your local lan. That indicated your networking is working. are you using dhcp or static ip addresses what is in /etc/resolv.conf On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 5:16 PM Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 13:02:07 -0400 > Felix Miata wrote: > > Hello Felix, > > >Just a thought: try another net install, this time configuring a static > >IP via installation cmdline options. > > Two options already - yours and Daniel's. That's what's so good about > this list. > > Thanks Felix. > > I know re-installing is not a hideous task, especially at this stage > (nothing to back up, for starters) but it just seems so ... inelegant. > > -- > Regards _ > / ) "The blindingly obvious is > / _)radnever immediately apparent" > You only see me for the clothes that I wear > Public Image - Public Image Ltd >
Speed of USB ports on Inspiron 1501
Background: I'm now thinking about buying a Wavlink USB 3.0 Display Universal Docking Station Dual Video HDMI/DVI/VGA, USB 3.0 & USB 2.0, Gigabit Ethernet Ports, Earphone & Mic in/out, Plug and Play For Windows Mac & Android 5.x Above - Black to use as a docking station for my Inspiron 1501 (because it is on sale today at Newegg). https://www.newegg.com/black-wavlink-ug39dk1/p/1DN-0023-5? reviews=all=9SIA6PF3RX9775_medium=Email_source=ShellShocker_mmc=EMC- SD032020-_-SD03222020-_-Item-_-9SIA6PF3RX9775=i-1NHD-Q7H-1Hk-27tE1G-2G- BLEn-1c-6C6-267oWf- l4P01kz1G5-7m9VI_rid=1948861950_mid=4944=cmhrcmFtZXJAZ21haWwuY29t It doesn't specifically say (in the specs) that it works with Linux, but one of the reviewers / commentors / customers mentions that he uses it with Linux (and, iiuc, that requires use of a DisplayLink driver). My other concern is with the speed of the USB ports. The description claims that it works with either a USB 3.0 or a USB 2.0 connection to the laptop (the 1501's USB ports are 2.0). I think that would work for me if the USB 2.0 port (or at least one of them) was the high speed version (480 Mbps) (vs. the "standard" USB 2.0 which seems to be 12 Mbps. (I say this because I don't (and don't intend to play games on this machine, or view things like youtube videos which might require a high video bandwidth.) getting to the question: So, I'm trying to find the speed of the USB ports. I've struck out on googling for the information online, so I started digging into trying to find the information in Linux. I found some instructions online that suggest running the command: rhk@s32:~$ cat /sys/bus/usb/devices/usb?/speed And I see this: 480 12 12 12 12 12 I've also experimented with viewing other parameters in the /sys/bus/usb/ devices/usb? Some of the results indicate that there are 6 USB "devices" (let me say, internal to the computer), but there are only 4 actual external physical ports. I don't know if maybe one of them (usb1) is 480 Mbps and the others are 12 Mbps, or maybe the 480 Mbps is either an internal port (with no physical port) or maybe something like a bus speed for the combination of all 6 USB ports. I will continue to experiment, but any suggestions are welcome. PS: I am subscribed to the mail list under a slightly different email address and will be able to view responses.
Re: Boot process hangs at, it seems, network initialisation
On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 13:02:07 -0400 Felix Miata wrote: Hello Felix, >Just a thought: try another net install, this time configuring a static >IP via installation cmdline options. Two options already - yours and Daniel's. That's what's so good about this list. Thanks Felix. I know re-installing is not a hideous task, especially at this stage (nothing to back up, for starters) but it just seems so ... inelegant. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" You only see me for the clothes that I wear Public Image - Public Image Ltd pgpOZ11QK4PlE.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: table en opendata associant commune de France metrolitaine, code postal, coordonnée GPS
Bonjour, Le 21/03/2020 à 15:40, Pierre Malard a écrit : > Oui, c’est une bonne solution. Pour une fois qu’un initiative gouvernementale > soutient et promeut l’Open Data et des services en Open Source avec des >> Le 21 mars 2020 à 14:47, David Sinquin a écrit : >> >> Bonjour, >> >> avez-vous regardé sur data.gouv.fr ? >> >> Sur https://www.data.gouv.fr/fr/datasets/base-officielle-des-codes-postaux/ >> le fichier « Base officielle des codes postaux » semble correspondre >> même s'il faudrait peut-être le mettre à jour avec les données du >> fichier « Communes nouvelles » de la même page et avec >> https://www.data.gouv.fr/fr/datasets/r/c3ba421c-6745-4fab-92ab-1716b16409c9 >> (version communautaire d'OpenStreetMap France qui corrige semble-t-il >> des codes postaux). >> >> Le fichier de base donne pour votre exemple : >> 92014;BOURG LA REINE;92340;BOURG LA REINE;BOURG LA >> REINE;48.7799073627,2.31643010763 >> >> Bonne journée >> David >> >> Le sam. 21 mars 2020 à 12:53, Basile Starynkevitch >> a écrit : >>> >>> Bonjour la liste >>> >>> Pourhttps://github.com/bstarynk/helpcovid/ >>> j'ai besoin en openndata d'une association entre commune (en France >>> métropolitaine), code postal, et coordonnées GPS (latitude et longitude) >>> >>> La donnée existe dans wikipedia, mais je ne saurais l'extraire. >>> >>> Donc une table, au format CSV ou SQL, qui pour mon domicile 92340 >>> Bourg-La-Reine contiendrait >>> >>> 92340; Bourg-La-Reine; 48.7796,2.3151 >>> >>> Merci >>> >>> -- >>> Basile STARYNKEVITCH == http://starynkevitch.net/Basile >>> opinions are mine only - les opinions sont seulement miennes >>> Bourg La Reine, France; >>> (mobile phone: cf my web page / voir ma page web...) Le problème des codes postaux c'est que plusieurs communes portent le même code postal et que certaines communes ont plusieurs codes postaux (les plus grandes villes. Si on veut avoir un identifiant de commune unique, il vaut mieux choisir le code INSEE qui figure également dans la base en accès libre : c'est la première colonne. https://public.opendatasoft.com/explore/dataset/correspondance-code-insee-code-postal/table/ Amicalement, Jean-Pierre Giraud
Re: exemple de ~/.pgpass qui marche (PostGreSQL/Debian/Buster) - et aide souhaitée en OpenStreetMap.
Bonjour, Le dimanche 22 mars 2020, Basile Starynkevitch a écrit... > En français, pour le projet https://github.com/bstarynk/helpcovid (GPLv3+, > en cours d'écriture) j'ai du mal à faire un fichier ~/.pgpass qui marche. Voilà un fichier que j'ai chez moi sur localhost. 127.0.0.1:5433:MYDB:jm:myPassword 127.0.0.1:5433:MYDB:webrequest:anotherPassword J'en ai un autre sur un autre serveur, si celui là ne te suffisait pas. -- jm
Re: Boot process hangs at, it seems, network initialisation
Brad Rogers composed on 2020-03-22 14:43 (UTC): > The OS was installed using a net-install CD, so clearly, the network > card is working. Having never previously encountered network i/f issues > myself, I'm really rather at a loss as to how I should proceed. Just a thought: try another net install, this time configuring a static IP via installation cmdline options. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
Re: Debian 10 Installation Question
If you have installed debian then you can setup a mirror in /etc/apt/sources.list. But that assumes you are at a debian terminal and not some grub terminal. if you can ping out look in /etc/apt/sources and edit that file # # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 10.0.0 _Buster_ - Official amd64 NETINST 20190706-10:23]/ buster main # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 10.0.0 _Buster_ - Official amd64 NETINST 20190706-10:23]/ buster main deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main # buster-updates, previously known as 'volatile' deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main Mine looks like the above On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 4:40 PM Henning Follmann wrote: > On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 11:08:53AM -0500, Jakub Kuzmicki wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I recently installed Debian 10 on my Dell XPS 15 7590. I was able to get > > > through majority of the installation up until the network mirroring > > > portion. I skipped that part since I wasn't able to find a recognizable > > > mirror to use. So now, when I turn on my computer and boot Debian, I am > > > sent to the terminal. I read somewhere that I can set up the network > mirror > > > through this terminal. > > > > My question is, what can I do to fix this issue? Am I not able to boot > > Debian because network mirroring is not set up? I would probably need > > instructions on exactly what to type to get this done if thats the case. > > > > -- > > Jakub Kuzmicki > > So where do you think your installer should get any packages? > > Follow the install procedures and do not just skip steps because > you do not understand it, especially if you do not understand! > > Basically just hit until really ask otherwise. > > -H > > > -- > Henning Follmann | hfollm...@itcfollmann.com > >
Re: Debian 10 Installation Question
On Sun 22 Mar 2020 at 11:08:53 -0500, Jakub Kuzmicki wrote: > Hello, > > I recently installed Debian 10 on my Dell XPS 15 7590. I was able to get > > through majority of the installation up until the network mirroring > > portion. I skipped that part since I wasn't able to find a recognizable > > mirror to use. So now, when I turn on my computer and boot Debian, I am > > sent to the terminal. I read somewhere that I can set up the network mirror > > through this terminal. > > My question is, what can I do to fix this issue? Am I not able to boot > Debian because network mirroring is not set up? I would probably need > instructions on exactly what to type to get this done if thats the case. First follow Henning Follman's advice. Installing again will be good practice for you. At the network mirroring portion look for deb.debian.org This is best for you as a mirror. -- Brian.
Re: [testing] pb impression Attestation Déplacement
Le 21/03/2020 à 23:49, Gaëtan Perrier a écrit : Sur ce site https://www.gouvernement.fr/info-coronavirus cette "première" version a été remplacée par une version qui n'a plus ce problème de longueur de champ mais qui depuis evince ne s'imprime pas bien. Depuis Acrobat Reader sous Windows l'impression est parfaite. J'ai ouvert le pdf dans LibreOffice pour le préremplir. Il ne me reste plus ensuite qu'à cocher la bonne case, dater et signer. Pas de problème d'impression avec Atril. -- François
Re: Debian 10 Installation Question
On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 11:08:53 -0500 Jakub Kuzmicki wrote: > Hello, > > I recently installed Debian 10 on my Dell XPS 15 7590. I was able to > get > > through majority of the installation up until the network mirroring > > portion. I skipped that part since I wasn't able to find a > > recognizable mirror to use. So now, when I turn on my computer and > > boot Debian, I am sent to the terminal. I read somewhere that I can > > set up the network mirror through this terminal. > > My question is, what can I do to fix this issue? Am I not able to boot > Debian because network mirroring is not set up? I would probably need > instructions on exactly what to type to get this done if thats the > case. > No. The mirror is required in order to fully install the system if using a netinstall medium, and later to upgrade it. It sounds as if yours isn't fully installed. Once properly installed, it doesn't even need a network connection to boot. There are a number of reasons for boot to fail. Obviously one is if not all the necessary software has been installed, but there are other reasons. Has your recently installed system ever booted? It should have done so at the end of the installation, having reminded you to remove the installation disc/USB medium. If you never got to that point, then the installation did not complete, and the way forward is to start the installation again. Don't worry much about choosing the mirror at the appropriate stage. Any mirror will work (assuming you have unrestricted Internet access, if you don't then you should probably not use the netinstall) it's just that the geographically nearer mirrors are likely to respond a little quicker. But a mirror on the other side of the planet should work. If the system has booted at least once but does not now, that's a very different scenario. What you need to do now is to post word-for-word the messages you see when it dumps you to a terminal. In general, grub has failed to find something it needs, perhaps part of the bootloader code, perhaps a module, perhaps a complete filesystem. The error messages will give *some* clues about this. -- Joe
Debian France renouvelle ses instances
Bonjour à tous, L'assemblée générale annuelle de l'association Debian-France vient de se terminer. Pas de confinement ici, puisque tout se passe en ligne et peut donc continuer envers et contre tout. Pour rappel, Debian France est une association qui se propose de représenter Debian en France, voire en Europe puisqu'elle est la seule organisation de confiance (Trust Organization) active du projet Debian sur ce continent. Ce statut lui permet ainsi de recueillir des dons pour le projet Debian et de gérer le budget du projet qui lui incombe, en parallèle du sien. L'assemblée générale a renouvelé le tiers de son conseil d'administration, actant ainsi l'entrée de Cyril Brulebois, un développeur Debian de longue date, au sein de son organe directeur. Le CA a reconduit le bureau de 2019, mais a élu un nouveau président: Jean-Philippe MENGUAL. 2019 avait marqué un véritable redécolage de Debian France: présence marquée aux FOSDEM, au Capitole du libre, à Paris, Lyon, organisation d'une minidebconf à Marseille, d'un meet-up à Bordeaux. Elle espère faire pareil en 2020, mais avec une claire volonté de mieux associer la communauté francophone des développeurs et des utilisateurs de Debian. Tout ce que fait l'asso doit avoir un "label" Debian clair, être partagé ici, et avec le projet dans son ensemble quand un budget est nécessaire ou pour les événements d'ampleur internationale (minidebcon). Dès février, Debian France a, via Debian, soutenu la tenue d'un sprint de l'équipe Ruby par exemple. Donc l'asso espère mieux communiquer avec toute la communauté et s'articuler avec toutes ses composantes, comme debian-facile. L'enjeu, outre une promotion plus marquée de Debian (Ubuntu étant moins présent), c'est aussi d'inspirer des gens qui, en entendant parler des actions, peuvent vouloir y contribuer. Ils sont les bienvenus! Tenir les stands, participer aux choix de goodies, adhérer à l'association, candidater au conseil d'administration pour 2021, autant de choses qui aideront à faire vivre l'asso et promouvoir le projet Debian. L'asso est "trusted organization", donc gère une partie du budget de Debian, elle doit donc être composée, au CA et au bureau, de développeurs Debian (pas exclusivement mais bon). Autant dire qu'avec moins de 100 développeurs vivant en France, toute bonne volonté est bienvenue! Et toute candidature à être développeur Debian est une bonne idée si vous vous en sentez capable et en avez envie. Haut-les-coeurs donc, et merci à tous ceux qui suivent l'association et le projet! L'association remercie tous ses membres qui ont participé à l'assemblée générale et son bureau qui a géré cette année avec enthousiasme et dynamisme. Elle espère que cette année sera riche en synergies et partage, dans l'esprit du logiciel libre." Amicalement, -- Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
Re: Debian 10 Installation Question
On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 11:08:53AM -0500, Jakub Kuzmicki wrote: > Hello, > > I recently installed Debian 10 on my Dell XPS 15 7590. I was able to get > > through majority of the installation up until the network mirroring > > portion. I skipped that part since I wasn't able to find a recognizable > > mirror to use. So now, when I turn on my computer and boot Debian, I am > > sent to the terminal. I read somewhere that I can set up the network mirror > > through this terminal. > > My question is, what can I do to fix this issue? Am I not able to boot > Debian because network mirroring is not set up? I would probably need > instructions on exactly what to type to get this done if thats the case. > > -- > Jakub Kuzmicki So where do you think your installer should get any packages? Follow the install procedures and do not just skip steps because you do not understand it, especially if you do not understand! Basically just hit until really ask otherwise. -H -- Henning Follmann | hfollm...@itcfollmann.com
Debian 10 Installation Question
Hello, I recently installed Debian 10 on my Dell XPS 15 7590. I was able to get > through majority of the installation up until the network mirroring > portion. I skipped that part since I wasn't able to find a recognizable > mirror to use. So now, when I turn on my computer and boot Debian, I am > sent to the terminal. I read somewhere that I can set up the network mirror > through this terminal. My question is, what can I do to fix this issue? Am I not able to boot Debian because network mirroring is not set up? I would probably need instructions on exactly what to type to get this done if thats the case. -- Jakub Kuzmicki
Re: Boot process hangs at, it seems, network initialisation
On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 16:07:42 + Daniel Harris wrote: Hello Daniel, >One thing, but if your networking was working during the install why did >you install firmware-realtek. I would try removing that. Linux keeps Because networking was failing after the install in any case, and there was mention of lack of firmware driver rtl8168h-2.fw which is provided by firmware-realtek. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" I am alone there's nobody there I Look Alone - Buzzcocks pgpNpWuqzLzfa.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Boot process hangs at, it seems, network initialisation
dont even try and install any gui stuff. (networking should get setup even with the most minimal setup. Just do a very minimal install test networking (ping) then do a dist upgrade to testing and then installl X stuff. One thing, but if your networking was working during the install why did you install firmware-realtek. I would try removing that. Linux keeps networking stuff in so many different places now its difficult to know where the setup files are kept. I never venture out of stable nowadays so my advice may be outdated. HTH dan On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 3:50 PM Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 14:57:47 + > Daniel Harris wrote: > > Hello Daniel, > > >I would probably try a minimal debian stable (providing it works on your > >new hardware) install and if that works then do a dist upgrade to > >testing. > > I'll keep it in mind, but a previous attempt at installing stable > wouldn't give a graphical login - I found that my nVidia gfx card isn't > supported by stable's nvidia drivers. To be fair, I didn't see any > network issues, but that might have been because I got dropped to a tty > before the boot process got that far. I didn't test for networking > issues on the stable set up - I didn't get that far. > > Thank you. I'll hold off for a while yet. > > -- > Regards _ > / ) "The blindingly obvious is > / _)radnever immediately apparent" > You suck my blood like a leech > Death On Two Legs - Queen >
Re: Boot process hangs at, it seems, network initialisation
On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 14:57:47 + Daniel Harris wrote: Hello Daniel, >I would probably try a minimal debian stable (providing it works on your >new hardware) install and if that works then do a dist upgrade to >testing. I'll keep it in mind, but a previous attempt at installing stable wouldn't give a graphical login - I found that my nVidia gfx card isn't supported by stable's nvidia drivers. To be fair, I didn't see any network issues, but that might have been because I got dropped to a tty before the boot process got that far. I didn't test for networking issues on the stable set up - I didn't get that far. Thank you. I'll hold off for a while yet. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" You suck my blood like a leech Death On Two Legs - Queen pgpeDW6c2OXqL.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
exemple de ~/.pgpass qui marche (PostGreSQL/Debian/Buster) - et aide souhaitée en OpenStreetMap.
Bonjour la liste En anglais ma question est https://unix.stackexchange.com/q/574269/50557 En français, pour le projet https://github.com/bstarynk/helpcovid (GPLv3+, en cours d'écriture) j'ai du mal à faire un fichier ~/.pgpass qui marche. La base de donnée, le serveur postgresql, le programme helpcovid sonnt sur localhost et en cours de déboguage, donc on veut éviter sudo. S'il y a des gens pour m'aider sur https://github.com/bstarynk/helpcovid ils sont bienvenus. Mais en anglais s'il vous plait, le contributeur le plus actif étant indien. En particuler, je manque de compétence en OpenStreetMap. Par compétence je veux dire git commit-s. Librement -- Basile STARYNKEVITCH == http://starynkevitch.net/Basile opinions are mine only - les opinions sont seulement miennes Bourg La Reine, France; (mobile phone: cf my web page / voir ma page web...)
Re: Boot process hangs at, it seems, network initialisation
I would probably try a minimal debian stable (providing it works on your new hardware) install and if that works then do a dist upgrade to testing. probably quicker than trying to debug your issue. Good luck Dan On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 2:44 PM Brad Rogers wrote: > Hello, > > For the first time, I'm having problems installing Debian testing on new > hardware; > > Asus TUF X570 Plus mobo with onboard Realtek network L8200A i/f > > As things stand, it /seems/ that the boot process is waiting for the > network interface to come up, before proceeding to start the SDDM log in > manager. Switching to tty2 and logging in would appear to bear this > out, as attempting to ping anything other than LAN machinery results in > 'No route to host' reports. > > The package firmware-realtek from testing has been installed. > > The OS was installed using a net-install CD, so clearly, the network > card is working. Having never previously encountered network i/f issues > myself, I'm really rather at a loss as to how I should proceed. > > > /etc/network/interfaces reads (comments & empty lines omitted); > > source /etc/networks/interfaces.d/* > auto lo > iface lo inet loopback > > > /etc/networks/interfaces.d/ is an empty directory. > > For the sake of full disclosure, I see this; > > [FAILED] Failed to start NVIDIA Persistence Daemon > > during the boot process. I suspect it has little bearing on the issue > I'm experiencing, but mention it 'just in case'. > > My $SEARCH foo has turned up nothing recent, only stuff from 2002, 2009 > or thereabouts. > > IDK how to proceed. Ideas and pointers (even moral support) sought and > welcomed. > > Thank you. > > -- > Regards _ > / ) "The blindingly obvious is > / _)radnever immediately apparent" > It's your life so go your own way > Questions And Answers - Sham 69 >
Boot process hangs at, it seems, network initialisation
Hello, For the first time, I'm having problems installing Debian testing on new hardware; Asus TUF X570 Plus mobo with onboard Realtek network L8200A i/f As things stand, it /seems/ that the boot process is waiting for the network interface to come up, before proceeding to start the SDDM log in manager. Switching to tty2 and logging in would appear to bear this out, as attempting to ping anything other than LAN machinery results in 'No route to host' reports. The package firmware-realtek from testing has been installed. The OS was installed using a net-install CD, so clearly, the network card is working. Having never previously encountered network i/f issues myself, I'm really rather at a loss as to how I should proceed. /etc/network/interfaces reads (comments & empty lines omitted); source /etc/networks/interfaces.d/* auto lo iface lo inet loopback /etc/networks/interfaces.d/ is an empty directory. For the sake of full disclosure, I see this; [FAILED] Failed to start NVIDIA Persistence Daemon during the boot process. I suspect it has little bearing on the issue I'm experiencing, but mention it 'just in case'. My $SEARCH foo has turned up nothing recent, only stuff from 2002, 2009 or thereabouts. IDK how to proceed. Ideas and pointers (even moral support) sought and welcomed. Thank you. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" It's your life so go your own way Questions And Answers - Sham 69 pgpx3FKoY9RzA.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: USB-stick beschrijven
Op 21-03-2020 om 11:52 schreef Geert Stappers: > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:33:00PM +0100, Paul van der Vlis wrote: >> Op 18-02-2020 om 13:57 schreef Paul van der Vlis: >>> Hallo, >>> >>> Ik kom een raar probleem tegen, en heb wel eens vaker problemen met het >>> mounten van USB-sticks. >>> >>> In dit geval gaat het om een USB-stick met VFAT filesystem. Hij mount >>> als /media/usb0 en dus niet als /media/piet/KINGSTON of zoiets. >>> >>> Daarna kan alleen root ernaar schrijven, en Piet niet. En Piet is lid >>> van de groep "plugdev". >>> >>> Wie kent dit probleem, en hoe het op te lossen? >> >> Nog geen oplossing, wel meer testresultaten: >> >> Zoals ik al in een andere mail schreef kan ik het probleem hier >> reproduceren. Op de ene computer (een oude laptop) kan ik een USB-stick >> met VFAT gewoon beschrijven. Op een andere computer (een server met GUI) >> is het systeem met VFAT read-only. De laptop heeft een vrij nieuwe >> schone installatie. De server heeft al vele upgrades achter zich. Beide >> Debian10 en een Cinnamon desktop. >> >> Op beide heb ik nu een nieuwe user aangemaakt met helemaal lege >> homedirectory. Op de server kan er weer niet geschreven worden op de >> USB-stick, en op de laptop niet. Mijn conclusie: dit zit niet in de >> homedirectory van de user, dit is geen user instelling maar iets >> system-wide. >> >> Wat me ook opviel is dat de group "plugdev" niet gebruikt wordt. De >> nieuwe user op de laptop mag schrijven naar de USB-stick, terwijl deze >> user in geen enkele groep zit (behalve zijn eigen groep). >> >> > > Ik mis in het verhaal het mount gebeuren. > In vertalingen "aankoppelen" genoemd. > > In https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-dutch/2020/02/msg00023.html > heb ik waarschijnlijk te voorzichtig gevraagd om naar "mount" te kijken. > En teveel "Het zal wel de auto-mounter zijn". > > Als het oorspronkelijke probleem nog actueel is: Het is nog actueel, maar heeft even niet de hoogste prioriteit. > * Vind wat de mount doet > * Schakel die "dienst" uit > * Zelf de mount doen, om de gewenste mount opties te leren kennen > * Configureer "auto mount" en schakel die weer > > > Ja, voor mij zou het ook uitzoekwerk zijn. Bedankt voor de input! Inderdaad, dat is wellicht de juiste weg. Groeten, Paul -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer Groningen https://www.vandervlis.nl/
Problemes amb chrome
Bones, D'un temps ençà que de cop, algunes pestanyes del navegador se'm queden tòtil·les i de moment anava tirant endavant, en una convivència certament tensa però donat que ara tinc més temps del desitjat, ho voldria apariar. Com a info us puc deixar això: usuari@ns:~$ ps ax | grep chrome 21406 ?Sl 0:11 /opt/google/chrome/chrome --disable-webrtc-apm-in-audio-service 21416 ?S 0:00 /opt/google/chrome/chrome-sandbox /opt/google/chrome/chrome --type=zygote --enable-crash-reporter=8e5a1a31-9948-4d21-97b0-067afcd5b957, 21417 ?S 0:00 /opt/google/chrome/chrome --type=zygote --enable-crash-reporter=8e5a1a31-9948-4d21-97b0-067afcd5b957, 21419 ?S 0:00 /opt/google/chrome/chrome-sandbox /opt/google/chrome/nacl_helper 21420 ?S 0:00 /opt/google/chrome/nacl_helper 21422 ?S 0:00 /opt/google/chrome/chrome --type=zygote --enable-crash-reporter=8e5a1a31-9948-4d21-97b0-067afcd5b957, 21620 ?Z 0:02 [chrome] 21752 ?Z 0:02 [chrome] 21844 ?Z 0:02 [chrome] 21877 ?Z 0:03 [chrome] 22019 ?Z 0:00 [chrome-sandbox] 22143 ?Z 0:00 [chrome-sandbox] 22349 pts/1S+ 0:00 grep chrome usuari@ns:~$ dpkg -l "*flash*" | grep ^ii ii flashplayer-mozilla 3:32.0.0.344-dmo1+deb10u1 amd64Adobe Flash Player Si algú fos tan amable d'orientar-me una mica li agrairia molt ;-)
Re: [HS] Informatique & corona :
Le 19/03/2020 à 10:04, Francois Meyer a écrit : Le 19/03/2020 à 01:46, Philippe a écrit : Salut la liste ! ... Et dans l'enseignement, l'incapacité des outils maison à gérer l'augmentation des connexions fait que tout le monde se tourne vers les solutions propriétaires : google docs, skype, réseaux sociaux divers (mais pas mastodon). Et même le dispositif officiel proposé par le CNED est en fait un lien vers une société privée américaine. ... Quel est ce lien ? Klaus Bonne santé à tous ! François
Re: [HS] Informatique & corona :
Le 19/03/2020 à 01:46, Philippe a écrit : Salut la liste ! Ce n'est pas avec l'objectif d'ouvrir une polémique pour ou contre le coronavirus que j'ai ouvert ce fil, mais pour que chacun puisse donner de ses nouvelles ou de ce qui se passe à côté de chez lui, tant la situation actuelle nous éloigne les uns des autres. Il y a des morts, c'est triste et on y passera tous un jour ou l'autre pour une raison ou une autre quand le sort nous désignera. Occupons-nous déjà des vivants, de ceux d'entre nous qui vont déprimer tout seuls chez eux, ceux dont le conjoint ou les enfants vont prendre la tête, etc. D'aucuns s'offusquent de comportements qu'ils jugent irresponsables. Ils sont très humains et décrits par de nombreux témoins, chroniqueurs et historiens des épidémies. Contentons-nous de témoigner. Les supermarchés ont été dévalisés lundi, sans doute autant à cause de la psychose que parce que les gens se sont retrouvés sans travail et se sont occupés comme ils ont pu. La consommation de bande passante a explosé, peut-être aussi parce que des gens recherchaient des informations en rapport avec cette situation inédite. Les tentatives d'intrusion sont légèrement en hausse sur les serveurs, mais pas énormément. J'ai quand même pu croiser ou rencontrer quelques personnes IRL aujourd'hui et ça m'a fait plaisir. Vos échanges aussi. À plus tard, Ph. Gras Bon je dérive un peu, de debian au libre, et du libre à la protection des données, désolé. Et dans l'enseignement, l'incapacité des outils maison à gérer l'augmentation des connexions fait que tout le monde se tourne vers les solutions propriétaires : google docs, skype, réseaux sociaux divers (mais pas mastodon). Et même le dispositif officiel proposé par le CNED est en fait un lien vers une société privée américaine. Et framasoft, vers lequel j'essaie de rediriger mes collègues et élèves, rouspète parce que ce n'est pas leur boulot...ce que je peux comprendre. Bonne santé à tous ! François
Re: [testing] pb impression Attestation Déplacement
Le 21/03/2020 à 23:49, Gaëtan Perrier a écrit : Les liens que tu indiques pointes sur la version initiale qui était disponible ici: Et en plus le format texte n'est pas du format texte. Partez rassurés, le ministère de l'intérieur veille sur vous. C'est d'ailleurs plutôt cela qui nous inquiète. -- -- Dominique Marin http://txodom.free.fr -- «Yep. Moi j'ai un clavier à une touche. Par contre, ma souris a 102 boutons, c'est pas toujours pratique.» -- OG in: Guide du Cabaliste Usenet - Le mulot contre attaque --
