Re: Uninstalling Chromium

2021-07-20 Thread Keith Bainbridge

On 21/7/21 03:36, andre...@gmail.com wrote:

Good afternoon, I am uninstalling chromium from Debian 10 and the
procedure automatically installs firefox and the same happens when
uninstalling firefox. How to solve this? Thanks.


Boa tarde, estou desinstalado crhomium do Debian 10 e o procedimento
instala automaticamente o firefox e o mesmo acontede ao desistalar o
firefox. Como resolver isso? Obrigado.



Good Morning Andre

Could you please explain the process you used.


Are you using pure Debian or an alternate, like MX or lmde

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Re: Strange email behaviour................

2021-07-20 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, July 20, 2021 02:19:43 PM Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Ma, 20 iul 21, 11:37:02, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 20, 2021 08:07:22 AM Charlie wrote:
> > > Nothing happened when I ran the "filter all messages in folder" or when
> > > I ran filter "filter selected messages". So then selected, highlighted,
> > > the message and used the "move" command in Claws Mail, and selected the
> > > folder the message was to go to.
> > > 
> > > It just vanished. Attempted to find the message in every directory
> > > including Trash, but it is nowhere to be found, assume forever gone.
> > > 
> > > Can a macro or some such thing; be placed/hidden, in an email message
> > > to delete it the minute an attempt is made to move it?
> 
> In theory, yes, it's probably possible, but I think it is *highly*
> unlikely.
> 
> > From the peanut gallery, my first suspicion would be that you've somehow
> > specified the directory to move it to incorrectly.
> > 
> > It would be helpful to post the macro here, or if it is long, at least
> > the parts relevant to moving that email to the directory you specified.
> > 
> > To answer your question, yes, a macro could be written (at least in some
> > languages -- I don't use Claws mail so not sure about that) that could
> > delete the email, although I would suspect it would end up in a trash
> > folder in which you could find it.

Oops, disregard my answer / comments above, they are misleading / not on point 
-- I didn't read the original post carefully enough.

> The only realistic method that *might* work on many different clients
> would be to embed something in the HTML part. See EFAIL[1] for a past
> example. Even then, you might notice that not all clients were (fully)
> affected[2].
> 
> Also, what would be the point in deleting the message just because it's
> moved to a different folder?
> 
> The only thing that might come close would be Outlook's "recall message"
> feature, though it rarely works properly on Outlook and I seriously
> doubt Claws Mail even supports it.
> 
> 
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFAIL
> [2]
> https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/05/decade-old-efail-at
> tack-can-decrypt-previously-obtained-encrypted-e-mails/
> 
> Kind regards,
> Andrei



Re: Uninstalling Chromium

2021-07-20 Thread Christian Britz



On 20.07.21 23:00 Greg Wooledge wrote:

unicorn:~$ apt-cache show gnome-core | grep firefox
Depends: [...] firefox-esr (>= 78) | firefox (>= 78) | chromium | 
chromium-browser | epiphany-browser, [...]

In other words, it only accepts the browsers specifically stated in that
list, and will not permit you to substitute any other.
Exactly. They should simply add "gnome-www-browser | www-browser" and 
everybody could be happy. One of the reasons why I prefer Google Chrome, 
is that I am already on bullseye and Chromium was (is?) always very 
outdated on testing. I know that testing has no security support, but I 
need secuity patches in time for a package that is so close to the front 
like an internet browser. (And personally, I like the full Google 
integration of Chrome.)

I'm not even sure whether you can hack around it using equivs.  I know


You can, I remember doing it.


that works for virtual packages like www-browser or mail-transport-agent
but I don't know whether it can be made to lie about having one of those
five specific packages installed.

Using the "provides" field.


Of course, the most obvious answer is "just install firefox-esr, even if


Doing it that way currently. It actually turned out that having a second 
browser installed can be handy from time to time (knowing that 
firefox-esr in testing is also outdated sometimes).



you don't use it".  (Well, second most obvious, after "purge gnome-core".)





Re: Uninstalling Chromium

2021-07-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 01:38:12PM -0700, Weaver wrote:
> On 21-07-2021 06:17, Christian Britz wrote:
> > On 20.07.21 19:58 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >> You probably have a desktop environment installed which Depends: on
> >> a web browser.  So, when you uninstall one, it falls back to a different
> >> one, in order to satisfy this dependency.
> >>
> >> If firefox-esr is currently installed, then you can ask aptitude what's
> >> keeping it here:
> >>
> >> aptitude why firefox-esr

> > In my case it is meta package gnome-core. It is a pity that it doesn't
> > have an alternative dependency on www-browser, this would be satisfied
> > by google-chrome-stable, which I prefer over chromium.

Yeah, that is... odd.

Even more odd, there's a 9-year-old bug open for it (sort of):

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=662150

> There are plenty of others, quite stable.
> Falkon is as quick as any of them, if you're happy to work around [...]

The issue isn't that a given web browser is well- or ill-suited, but
rather that the Debian package named "gnome-core" has the following
hard-coded dependency:

unicorn:~$ apt-cache show gnome-core | grep firefox
Depends: [...] firefox-esr (>= 78) | firefox (>= 78) | chromium | 
chromium-browser | epiphany-browser, [...]

In other words, it only accepts the browsers specifically stated in that
list, and will not permit you to substitute any other.

I'm not even sure whether you can hack around it using equivs.  I know
that works for virtual packages like www-browser or mail-transport-agent
but I don't know whether it can be made to lie about having one of those
five specific packages installed.

Of course, the most obvious answer is "just install firefox-esr, even if
you don't use it".  (Well, second most obvious, after "purge gnome-core".)



Re: Uninstalling Chromium

2021-07-20 Thread Weaver
On 21-07-2021 06:17, Christian Britz wrote:
> On 20.07.21 19:58 Greg Wooledge wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 01:15:32PM -0400, andre...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Good afternoon, I am uninstalling chromium from Debian 10 and the
>>> procedure automatically installs firefox and the same happens when
>>> uninstalling firefox. How to solve this? Thanks.
>> You probably have a desktop environment installed which Depends: on
>> a web browser.  So, when you uninstall one, it falls back to a different
>> one, in order to satisfy this dependency.
>>
>> If firefox-esr is currently installed, then you can ask aptitude what's
>> keeping it here:
>>
>> aptitude why firefox-esr
> In my case it is meta package gnome-core. It is a pity that it doesn't
> have an alternative dependency on www-browser, this would be satisfied
> by google-chrome-stable, which I prefer over chromium.

There are plenty of others, quite stable.
Falkon is as quick as any of them, if you're happy to work around one or
two minor discrepancies from a stripped down process that keeps it that
way.
I have three installed, because I do a little web design work, and I
need them for checking, but to each his own.
For example, I wouldn't touch Chrome.
Cheers!

Harry.

-- 
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-- Thomas Jefferson



Re: Uninstalling Chromium

2021-07-20 Thread Christian Britz




On 20.07.21 19:58 Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 01:15:32PM -0400, andre...@gmail.com wrote:

Good afternoon, I am uninstalling chromium from Debian 10 and the
procedure automatically installs firefox and the same happens when
uninstalling firefox. How to solve this? Thanks.

You probably have a desktop environment installed which Depends: on
a web browser.  So, when you uninstall one, it falls back to a different
one, in order to satisfy this dependency.

If firefox-esr is currently installed, then you can ask aptitude what's
keeping it here:

aptitude why firefox-esr
In my case it is meta package gnome-core. It is a pity that it doesn't 
have an alternative dependency on www-browser, this would be satisfied 
by google-chrome-stable, which I prefer over chromium.




Re: Strange email behaviour................

2021-07-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 20 iul 21, 11:37:02, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 20, 2021 08:07:22 AM Charlie wrote:
> > Nothing happened when I ran the "filter all messages in folder" or when
> > I ran filter "filter selected messages". So then selected, highlighted,
> > the message and used the "move" command in Claws Mail, and selected the
> > folder the message was to go to.
> > 
> > It just vanished. Attempted to find the message in every directory
> > including Trash, but it is nowhere to be found, assume forever gone.
> > 
> > Can a macro or some such thing; be placed/hidden, in an email message
> > to delete it the minute an attempt is made to move it?

In theory, yes, it's probably possible, but I think it is *highly* 
unlikely.

> From the peanut gallery, my first suspicion would be that you've somehow 
> specified the directory to move it to incorrectly.
> 
> It would be helpful to post the macro here, or if it is long, at least the 
> parts relevant to moving that email to the directory you specified.
> 
> To answer your question, yes, a macro could be written (at least in some 
> languages -- I don't use Claws mail so not sure about that) that could delete 
> the email, although I would suspect it would end up in a trash folder in 
> which 
> you could find it.

The only realistic method that *might* work on many different clients 
would be to embed something in the HTML part. See EFAIL[1] for a past 
example. Even then, you might notice that not all clients were (fully)
affected[2].

Also, what would be the point in deleting the message just because it's 
moved to a different folder?

The only thing that might come close would be Outlook's "recall message" 
feature, though it rarely works properly on Outlook and I seriously 
doubt Claws Mail even supports it.


[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFAIL
[2] 
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/05/decade-old-efail-attack-can-decrypt-previously-obtained-encrypted-e-mails/

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Uninstalling Chromium

2021-07-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 01:15:32PM -0400, andre...@gmail.com wrote:
> Good afternoon, I am uninstalling chromium from Debian 10 and the
> procedure automatically installs firefox and the same happens when
> uninstalling firefox. How to solve this? Thanks.

You probably have a desktop environment installed which Depends: on
a web browser.  So, when you uninstall one, it falls back to a different
one, in order to satisfy this dependency.

If firefox-esr is currently installed, then you can ask aptitude what's
keeping it here:

aptitude why firefox-esr



Uninstalling Chromium

2021-07-20 Thread André Bessa
Good afternoon, I am uninstalling chromium from Debian 10 and the
procedure automatically installs firefox and the same happens when
uninstalling firefox. How to solve this? Thanks.


Boa tarde, estou desinstalado crhomium do Debian 10 e o procedimento
instala automaticamente o firefox e o mesmo acontede ao desistalar o
firefox. Como resolver isso? Obrigado.



Uninstalling Chromium

2021-07-20 Thread André Bessa
Good afternoon, I am uninstalling chromium from Debian 10 and the
procedure automatically installs firefox and the same happens when
uninstalling firefox. How to solve this? Thanks.


Boa tarde, estou desinstalado crhomium do Debian 10 e o procedimento
instala automaticamente o firefox e o mesmo acontede ao desistalar o
firefox. Como resolver isso? Obrigado.



Uninstalling Chromium

2021-07-20 Thread andrehpb
Good afternoon, I am uninstalling chromium from Debian 10 and the
procedure automatically installs firefox and the same happens when
uninstalling firefox. How to solve this? Thanks.


Boa tarde, estou desinstalado crhomium do Debian 10 e o procedimento
instala automaticamente o firefox e o mesmo acontede ao desistalar o
firefox. Como resolver isso? Obrigado.



Uninstalling Chromium

2021-07-20 Thread andrehpb
Good afternoon, I am uninstalling chromium from Debian 10 and the
procedure automatically installs firefox and the same happens when
uninstalling firefox. How to solve this? Thanks.


Boa tarde, estou desinstalado crhomium do Debian 10 e o procedimento
instala automaticamente o firefox e o mesmo acontede ao desistalar o
firefox. Como resolver isso? Obrigado.



Re: Wireguard and my Buster kernel

2021-07-20 Thread Bob Bernstein

On Tue, 20 Jul 2021, Reco wrote:

It has nothing to do with the kernel module status. I'd blame 
your ISP first, and the code quality of kernel module second.


I don't have any intuitive "feel" for kernel processes i.e. I am 
unable to discern or even form a small hunch that a given effect 
I am witnessing has its source in events in the kernel. I 
suppose there are some who do!


If not - you'll just waste your time upgrading to next version 
of wireguard.


I did the upgrade; my VPN vendor prefers us to use the latest. 
But I see no change in behaviour.


Oh well, I guess that's just life in the Big Leagues; they don't 
call it hard ball for nothing.


9-)

Thank you all.


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power symbolized by scientific knowledge, for
otherwise it will be a fatally split society-
split between a powerful elite and the
disenfranchised mass. To this we add now: an
irrational elite is the most dangerous of all.

Holton, Gerald. 1985. On the Integrity of
Science: The Issues Since Bronowski. Leonardo
18 (4), Special Issue: Jacob Bronowski: A
Retrospective (1985): 229-232.




Re: Wiki Debian "Release page" should have template (Was Re: Buster no release file)

2021-07-20 Thread Robbi Nespu

On 7/20/21 11:34 PM, Robbi Nespu wrote:

I send out this email first. So I can have a link to attach on my report 
bug later. Will replying this thread later with report bugs number, I 
hope this will be useful to prevent issue like this.


Thanks to Greg and Paul for great contribution on Debian Wiki.

p/s: Wiki Debian "Release page" == 
https://wiki.debian.org/Debian




Here the bug report https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=991322

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Re: Strange email behaviour................

2021-07-20 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, July 20, 2021 08:07:22 AM Charlie wrote:
> Nothing happened when I ran the "filter all messages in folder" or when
> I ran filter "filter selected messages". So then selected, highlighted,
> the message and used the "move" command in Claws Mail, and selected the
> folder the message was to go to.
> 
> It just vanished. Attempted to find the message in every directory
> including Trash, but it is nowhere to be found, assume forever gone.
> 
> Can a macro or some such thing; be placed/hidden, in an email message
> to delete it the minute an attempt is made to move it?

From the peanut gallery, my first suspicion would be that you've somehow 
specified the directory to move it to incorrectly.

It would be helpful to post the macro here, or if it is long, at least the 
parts relevant to moving that email to the directory you specified.

To answer your question, yes, a macro could be written (at least in some 
languages -- I don't use Claws mail so not sure about that) that could delete 
the email, although I would suspect it would end up in a trash folder in which 
you could find it.



Wiki Debian "Release page" should have template (Was Re: Buster no release file)

2021-07-20 Thread Robbi Nespu

On 7/11/21 6:44 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:

I was going to link you to the DebianBuster wiki page where I had put
the standard sources.list for buster, but it appears someone doesn't
want you to have that information.

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianBuster?action=diff&rev2=23&rev1=22

You can thank the person who goes by the name PaulWise for making your
Debian wiki a less informative and less useful place.

I *REALLY* and truly hate assholes like that.



I don't agree calling someone asshole but I  agree with Greg in-term of 
sometimes someone make Debian Wiki less informative and less useful.


This is great example, this is what I see what happening on the time line..

Timeline 1: Greg put useful information 
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianBuster?action=diff&rev1=21&rev2=22


Timeline 2: PaulWise revert the changes as he comment is as unnecessary 
changes https://wiki.debian.org/DebianBuster?action=diff&rev1=21&rev2=23


On timeline 1 and 2, The class issue are Greg added useful information 
and PaulWise remove it / revert it  (to me it likely want to tidy up and 
make it uniform like others "Debian Release" pages)


Both have own perspective and good attention.

Wiki are great in term of collective information but quite really-ugly 
on deciding which "information" should be put here and which should 
not.. worst, there is no template to follow as far I check. Plus, I 
can't found how to create template on Debian Wiki.


So.. Greg and Paul have clash on something important here. (Too be 
honest, I wish Debian move to Wiki with pull-request approval type 
rather just who-ever have Wiki approved account can do change)


The best solution and improvement are to send report to bug list as 
wishlist's to have a standard template for this "Debian Release" pages 
and this template should have standard sources.list or a link to 
https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList (this wiki page also need 
improvement, IMHO)


I send out this email first. So I can have a link to attach on my report 
bug later. Will replying this thread later with report bugs number, I 
hope this will be useful to prevent issue like this.


Thanks to Greg and Paul for great contribution on Debian Wiki.

p/s: Wiki Debian "Release page" == 
https://wiki.debian.org/Debian


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Re: MDs & Dentists

2021-07-20 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 09:46:59 +0300
Reco  wrote:

...

> You cannot catch a ransomware cryptolocker using Linux on a desktop,

Of course you can, although it's certainly much less likely than when
using Windows.

> it's definitely Windows-only kind of software. In fact, any FOSS OS has
> this advantage, unless you're using Wine (software).

It's definitely not Windows-only, although it is (at this point) still
mostly Windows:

https://hacked.com/linux-ransomware-notorious-cases-and-ways-to-protect/
https://phoenixnap.com/blog/linux-ransomware
https://linuxsecurity.com/features/anatomy-of-a-linux-ransomware-attack
https://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-version-of-ransomexx-ransomware-discovered/

Celejar



Re: VirtualBox Problem

2021-07-20 Thread Robbi Nespu

On 7/18/21 3:00 AM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
First off, let me say that I am not trying to start a war or nasty 
exchange4of insults.
That is really bad introduction like expecting Debian-user is place of 
war or nasty insult. We have CoC.




I am forced by circumstance to run a Linux program on my Windows 10 
Laptop. In order to accomplish his I have installed Buster in a 
VirtualBox v-6.1. Although the AMD Rizen 5 CPU has eight threads, of 
which the VirtualBox only allows four of the threads to be used.
 
Hmm.. so your are using windows and want to have linux program running? 
I smell XYZ problem here. Read https://xyproblem.info , Can you be 
specific of what program you mean here?


Unfortunately , perhaps not too surprisingly, neither the Windows 10 or 
VirtualBox sources seem to have a solution that I can find. Google is 
defiantly not my friend.


Again, there is no clear problem. and not sure what solution your 
are looking for.




Can anyone in Linux land be of help?

Thanks in advance,




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Re: Fwd: Re: ASTM Lab equipment protocol

2021-07-20 Thread Rob van der Putten

Hi there


On 12/07/2021 15:40, Markos wrote:




OK. Now I understand a little bit more the situation.

You are referring to this pattern:
https://www.astm.org/Standards/E1381.htm
I didn't know this standard.

What I have seen in my experience with laboratory automation with some 
instruments/equipment is that each manufacturer has its own ASCII 
communication protocol.


Therefore, it is more viable to use some standard to specify a 
communication interface but without specifying the specific protocol of 
each equipment/instrument.


The only ASTM standard for laboratory automation with this approach 
(define interface) was the LECIS standard, which is now discontinued:

https://www.astm.org/DATABASE.CART/WITHDRAWN/E1989.htm

I discovered, a few days ago, the SiLA project to standardize automation 
in the laboratory:

https://sila-standard.com/

But I still don't know the details.

I have already had to implement programs for serial communication with 
instruments and equipment in the laboratory.


But I don't remember seeing any Debian packages related to this ASTM 
standard.


The thing to do is probably to use github search and then download, 
install and test each relevant program. I found two which are programmed 
in C, so I can modify them myself if need be.


The vet however is perfectly happy with using the native skyla protocol, 
so I used this instead. They are already using my software and perfectly 
happy with it. The software simply dumps the data in a text file which 
they then can access. Nothing fancy here.
There is an other blood analyses machine heading this way, with yet an 
other protocol for which I will also write software.


In the long run ASTM is probably the way to go. With lots of googling 
you can actually find bits and pieces of the standard without having to 
pay for it.


I've found some programs for acquisition and graphic display of data 
received through the serial port.


But as they didn't have all the resources I decided to develop my own 
programs using the Tcl/Tk language, always using Debian.


I tried to document some of these projects on my website, which might be 
useful.


The material is in Portuguese but it is possible to translate it with 
the help of Google Translator: https://tinyurl.com/46vnrp68


Email-me if you have any question.



Regards,
Rob



Re: Strange email behaviour................

2021-07-20 Thread Hans
Am Dienstag, 20. Juli 2021, 14:07:22 CEST schrieb Charlie:

Are you running some spamfilter, like spamassassin, spamd or whatever? Take a 
look at the rules, maybe there is a rule "delete recognized spammails".

I am not using clawsmail, but kmail, and my rules say: If this is a spammail, 
then move it to the folder "Spam", and mark it as "read". 

So you can see false positives and false negatives and let the spamfilter 
learn by correcting things manually.

Again, looks like a spam rule for me.

Best 

Hans 

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Strange email behaviour................

2021-07-20 Thread Charlie


From my keyboard:

Hello Everyone,

Using Claws Mail 3.17.8 Debian Bullseye

Received an email from a government department. Saved the attachment.
Then attempted to run a filter that would place all future emails from
this department using this address, into a designated folder.

Nothing happened when I ran the "filter all messages in folder" or when
I ran filter "filter selected messages". So then selected, highlighted,
the message and used the "move" command in Claws Mail, and selected the
folder the message was to go to.

It just vanished. Attempted to find the message in every directory
including Trash, but it is nowhere to be found, assume forever gone.

Can a macro or some such thing; be placed/hidden, in an email message
to delete it the minute an attempt is made to move it?

Just wondering, because any emails from this department will need to be
treated differently in the future, if this is the case.

Thanks for any information.
Charlie

East Gippsland Wildlife Rehabilitators Inc..
   http://www.egwildlife.com.au/

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Re: 回复:Re: where can i find a list of wireless adapter that debian support

2021-07-20 Thread Joe
On Tue, 20 Jul 2021 17:47:21 +0800
 wrote:


> Windows is better supported because many vendors claim they support
> Windows from winxp to win10they don't mention linux  
> 
This is because all PC hardware is *designed* to work with current,
recent and near-future versions of Windows, because the manufacturer
would have no market for his products otherwise. It is more profitable
to ignore a few percent of the potential customers than to double the
development and testing effort.

-- 
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USB audio device no longer showing up

2021-07-20 Thread Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum
I've been using a Schiit Modi 3 D/A converter for my main desktop audio for a 
year or two. In the last week, it's been sporadically vanishing from PulseAudio.
It's normally plugged into a USB port on my monitor, which has several such 
ports, all of which work with other devices. When I plug it in, dmesg shows me:
[2126764.183346] usb 3-3.4: new full-speed USB device number 75 using 
xhci_hcd[2126765.035388] usb 3-3-port4: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is 
bad?[2126765.887389] usb 3-3-port4: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is 
bad?[2126765.887461] usb 3-3-port4: attempt power cycle[2126768.319399] usb 
3-3-port4: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?[2126769.171424] usb 
3-3-port4: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?[2126769.171483] usb 
3-3-port4: unable to enumerate USB device
I get similar messages from other ports; other devices show up fine. This port 
is successfully providing power to the Schiit.
Though "Maybe the USB cable is bad?" is a dubious-sounding message, I did swap 
out the existing random cable with a brand-new good-quality one, with no 
difference.
I also tried to plug the Schiit into a Debian laptop, with the same results as 
above. Confoundingly, after this test, I re-plugged it into my monitor and it 
magically started to work -- it showed up in dmesg, it started to play audio.
However, hoping it magically works isn't a good long-term solution. Is there 
any way to figure out what's causing this? Could it be a hardware problem with 
the Schiit? If so, how do I report it to them?



Re: Wireguard and my Buster kernel

2021-07-20 Thread Dan Ritter
Bob Bernstein wrote: 
> /var/log/kern.log contains these lines:
> 
> Jul 19 09:15:38 debian kernel: [69157.444725] wireguard: module verification
> failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel
> Jul 19 09:15:38 debian kernel: [69157.449554] wireguard: WireGuard
> 1.0.20200712 loaded. See www.wireguard.com for information.
> Jul 19 09:15:38 debian kernel: [69157.449555] wireguard: Copyright (C)
> 2015-2019 Jason A. Donenfeld . All Rights Reserved.
> 
> This is an old HP amd64 running as noted:
> 
> $ uname -a
> Linux debian.localdomain 4.19.0-14-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.171-2
> (2021-01-30) x86_64 GNU/Linux
> 
> Principal symptom: pervasive slowdown of all connections to remote hosts,
> notice first with my smtp smart host.
> 
> I am resigned to reinstalling my VPN, which will bring the latest Wireguard
> with it iirc, but are those kern.log lines consistent with my
> complaint/report of slowness?

Probably not. We have Wireguard installed on a hundred or so
machines, including roving laptops, and there are no issues like
that. 

Note that Wireguard will be part of the default kernel when
Bullseye becomes stable in a month or so, or if you get a
backports kernel now.

-dsr-



回复:Re: where can i find a list of wireless adapter that debian support

2021-07-20 Thread loushanguan2015
Christian Britz wrote:
On Windows, everything regarding the driver is non-free, not only the 
firmware.
Personally I can live with non-free firmware and have always enabled this.

Windows is better supported because many vendors claim they support Windows 
from winxp to win10they don't mention linux  

Ubuntu is more friendly than debian in this case, it just install 
them(including non-free firmware), hiding ugly details from user



Re: where can i find a list of wireless adapter that debian support

2021-07-20 Thread Christian Britz




At 20.07.21 11:01 loushanguan2...@sina.com wrote:

Thank Andrew, Stefan and nick!
i prefer old wifi adapter if new one often requires non-free firmware
it seems that Windows is better supported than linux in this aspect


On Windows, everything regarding the driver is non-free, not only the 
firmware.

Personally I can live with non-free firmware and have always enabled this.


finding my ideal adapter with right interface isn't easy
(usb is preferred, some pci card can't be install in my PC)
finding them at reasonable price on Chinese market isn't easy
i may have to give up, i have to put up with non-free firmware




Re: where can i find a list of wireless adapter that debian support

2021-07-20 Thread loushanguan2015
Thank Andrew, Stefan and nick!
i prefer old wifi adapter if new one often requires non-free firmware
it seems that Windows is better supported than linux in this aspect
finding my ideal adapter with right interface isn't easy
(usb is preferred, some pci card can't be install in my PC)
finding them at reasonable price on Chinese market isn't easy
i may have to give up, i have to put up with non-free firmware


Re: Wireguard and my Buster kernel

2021-07-20 Thread Reco
Hi.

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 03:46:48AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote:
> /var/log/kern.log contains these lines:
> 
> Jul 19 09:15:38 debian kernel: [69157.444725] wireguard: module verification 
> failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel

It's an out-of-tree module, so this is expected.
Moreover, it tells you that it's a self-built unsigned module, which is
expected if you happen to use dkms.


> Principal symptom: pervasive slowdown of all connections to remote
> hosts, notice first with my smtp smart host.

It has nothing to do with the kernel module status.
I'd blame your ISP first, and the code quality of kernel module second.

I.e. if you're seeing large amounts of CPU eaten by the kernel - the
kernel module is likely the problem (although it needs to be verified by
perf top). If not - you'll just waste your time upgrading to next
version of wireguard.

Reco



Wireguard and my Buster kernel

2021-07-20 Thread Bob Bernstein

/var/log/kern.log contains these lines:

Jul 19 09:15:38 debian kernel: [69157.444725] wireguard: module 
verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - 
tainting kernel
Jul 19 09:15:38 debian kernel: [69157.449554] wireguard: 
WireGuard 1.0.20200712 loaded. See www.wireguard.com for 
information.
Jul 19 09:15:38 debian kernel: [69157.449555] wireguard: 
Copyright (C) 2015-2019 Jason A. Donenfeld . 
All Rights Reserved.


This is an old HP amd64 running as noted:

$ uname -a
Linux debian.localdomain 4.19.0-14-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 
4.19.171-2 (2021-01-30) x86_64 GNU/Linux


Principal symptom: pervasive slowdown of all connections to 
remote hosts, notice first with my smtp smart host.


I am resigned to reinstalling my VPN, which will bring the 
latest Wireguard with it iirc, but are those kern.log lines 
consistent with my complaint/report of slowness?


Thank you,

--
...a society must incorporate the rationalizing
power symbolized by scientific knowledge, for
otherwise it will be a fatally split society-
split between a powerful elite and the
disenfranchised mass. To this we add now: an
irrational elite is the most dangerous of all.

Holton, Gerald. 1985. On the Integrity of
Science: The Issues Since Bronowski. Leonardo
18 (4), Special Issue: Jacob Bronowski: A
Retrospective (1985): 229-232.




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