Re: UUIDS
On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 12:37:20AM +0100, mick.crane wrote: > I'm sure it used to be that you could swap linux discs between PCs and it > would sort itself out but I try swapping disks about and booting and they > complain > "Cannot find UUID..lots of identifying numbers" > and gives intramfs prompt. The system seems to try to mount the root file system, which seems to be specified in the fstab by UUID. It doesn't. This can have several reasons: 1) the root fs is somehow broken 2) some rescue procedure has changed the UUID 3) perhaps some more > Am I supposed to be able to sort it out from there? In theory, yes. Knowledge and practice with initramfs doesn't to seem widespread, alas. See here [1]. *If* you know which one is your root partition, you might try to mount it and exit the initramfs shell for the boot process to continue. Alternatively, you might want to boot a rescue system, find out whether you are 1) or 2) above. In case 1) fix, in case 2 boot again with "root=..." and fix your initramfs afterwards. In case 3) try to gather more info and come back :) HTH [1] https://wiki.debian.org/initramfs -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: UUIDS (addenum)
Am 28.05.2023 um 01:37 schrieb mick.crane: > (...) > and gives intramfs prompt. > Am I supposed to be able to sort it out from there? > like how? > mick oh the initramfs prompt... that is not the place to fix it easily. much easier to stop while booting grub (like asking for the menuitem, you are used to boot into, read that and next get a grub prompt (c) and boot the system by hand. Of course, i did play with grub before in order to be accustomed to do that in case of emergency. the grub help command is just barely enough to be reminded of what you already know, not more. And you should know, thet the idea behind UUID#s (Unique Universal Identifiers) is, that they should be unique (at least on one system). maybe just removing one of the duplicates can be enough to circumvent the error?
Re: UUIDS
Am 28.05.2023 um 01:37 schrieb mick.crane: > I'm sure it used to be that you could swap linux discs between PCs and > it would sort itself out but I try swapping disks about and booting and > they complain > "Cannot find UUID..lots of identifying numbers" > and gives intramfs prompt. > Am I supposed to be able to sort it out from there? > like how? > mick > > I am juggling with disks and partitions frequently. And would like you to be awarem that there are different UUID#s involved. One resides in th filesystem ext2/3/4 itself, and can be modified with tune2fs -U (while fs is at rest/unmounted) The other one site inside GPT, but you can change that also ((s)gdisk is your friend). But all that is meaningless, if you dont find the other end of the equation (like fstab, or grub scripts) that reference the said UUID's. But step by step you will get there, just be prepared to reboot several times and work your way up the chain.
Re: UUIDS
On 5/27/23 16:37, mick.crane wrote: I'm sure it used to be that you could swap linux discs between PCs and it would sort itself out Yes. Please add that to my list of reasons for preferring BIOS-MBR booting: https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user@lists.debian.org/msg792977.html but I try swapping disks about and booting and they complain "Cannot find UUID..lots of identifying numbers" and gives intramfs prompt. Am I supposed to be able to sort it out from there? like how? mick I had a similar experienced yesterday. The solution was to boot the computer into Setup, reset to defaults, reboot into Setup again, disable all disks except the one I want, create a boot table entry for that disk, save settings, and reboot into Debian. David
Re: GPT backup table, was Re: virtualisation
On 5/27/23 07:42, mick.crane wrote: On 2023-05-27 10:33, Michael wrote: On Friday, 26 May 2023 11:47:04 CEST, Thomas Schmitt wrote: (And as mick.crane already noticed, it is a bit awkward to create an extended partiton 2 only to fill it nearly up with logical partition 5. I wonder what entity decided to do so.) on my debian 11 test vm with default installation it is exactly the same: root@debian11test:~# fdisk -l /dev/sda Disk /dev/sda: 20 GiB, 21474836480 bytes, 41943040 sectors Disk model: VBOX HARDDISK Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disklabel type: dos Disk identifier: 0x2e739d33 Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type /dev/sda1 * 2048 39942143 39940096 19G 83 Linux /dev/sda2 39944190 41940991 1996802 975M 5 Extended /dev/sda5 39944192 41940991 1996800 975M 82 Linux swap / Solaris greetings... I just installed bookworm on another SSD disk. The installer said it was going to partition the disk one for the / and another for swap After the installation the extended partition was there. That sounds like d-i did what you told it to do: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s03.en.html#di-partition 6.3.4.2. Guided Partitioning All files in one partition Is this some attribute of pre formatted SSDs Unlikely. I didn't zero the disk as my old systemrescueCD CD failed to successfully boot. I'll get a more recent copy. mick d-i includes a rescue shell. You can use dd(1) to zero disks. David
Re: UUIDS
mick.crane composed on 2023-05-28 00:37 (UTC+0100): > I'm sure it used to be that you could swap linux discs between PCs and > it would sort itself out but I try swapping disks about and booting and > they complain > "Cannot find UUID..lots of identifying numbers" > and gives intramfs prompt. > Am I supposed to be able to sort it out from there? > like how? It depends on what can't find what. If UEFI BIOS are involved, it can be both easier and harder to deal with than for MBR booting. Lots of buggy UEFI BIOS are around to complicate what should make things easier harder. A fix could be as easy as either clearing NVRAM of existing entries, or booting removable media to run efibootmgr to either clear existing entry(s) and/or add a new one. It's also possible the ESP partition's UUID is included in the initrd and needs to be overridden with rd.hostonly=0 and/or rd.auto=1 on Grub's linu line. So tell us, is this with UEFI, MBR, or a mixture? What hardware was in the source, and what in the destination? How many disks in the destination? How many operating systems on the disk(s)? Can you boot an installed system using installation media? As always, as long as required drivers are included in the initrd, if you know enough about device names, filesystem LABELs and filesystems involved, booting can be accomplished manually from a Grub prompt without involving UUIDs, but from an initramfs prompt it can be harder or impossible. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata
Re: laptop stopped getting to desktop after latest updates [RESOLVED]
On 2023-05-19 23:32, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Debian/Bookworm on an ASUS FA506IC laptop. It's got an AMD Ryzen processor but an NVidia graphics card that provides me with great evidence for why I had previously avoided NVidia cards. I'm running Bookworm because I couldn't get it work on Bullseye. It'd been running OK with the proprietary drivers (but not the Nouveau) until earlier today. I don't use it very often so it was probably a few weeks since I last updated it. I had trouble the previous time I'd updated it too, but that was the move to the non-free-firmware section that messed it up. Once I added the new section to the sources, things worked again. The symptoms I'm getting are the same as what it used to display when I tried to use sddm to start the desktop. Gdm3 and lightdm both worked in the past but now I'm getting the same symptom with all of them - a blank screen with a cursor flashing in the top-left corner. At that point I can't even bring up a text console, but I can reboot (ctrl-alt-del still works). I can boot to a recovery mode and start the network, but not sure how to track this down. Removing and reinstalling the NVidia driver didn't help. Trying to start the desktop without the NVidia driver (and firmware) installed also didn't work. I still get the system booting to a blank screen with a flashing cursor in the top let corner. Any ideas? Thanks. I got some time this afternoon to play around with the system. My first effort was to go back to Debian/Bullseye (11.7) and do a fresh install. Surprisingly, it worked this time. I could boot into Gnome without problems. However I had no wifi. Changing to sddm however led to failure to reach a login screen. Installing lightdm let me select Plasma 5 however. This is all with the Nouveau drivers. However the wifi issue needed to be resolved. It turns out there are working (non-free) drivers available but they require a more recent kernel. I added bullseye-backports and installed the newer kernel and firmware-misc-non-free. This led to a failure to reach a login screen (in fact, the boot appears to hang after producing about 4 lines of output but booting to recovery mode let me see that it failed loading the Nouveau drivers). Installing the nvidia-driver allowed the system to reach a graphical login but the system was not very stable. The difference in kernel versions was giving me a lot of errors so I tried to upgrade completely to Bookworm. That got me back to the point I was at when I first posted my original problem. I couldn't get to a working graphical login. This led me back to the Debian site to download the latest Bookworm installer. The RC3 netinst is problematic - it didn't recognize my /home partition as formatted and ended up wiping it out. And when I rebooted into the installed system, it left me at a grub prompt. But when I rebooted and selected the boot partition manually through the BIOS, I was able to boot into the system. I ran update-grub and it's now booting properly. Surprisingly, I was even able to switch to sddm and get into Plasma 5 (Wayland!), all while using the Nouveau drivers. And wifi just worked!
Re: UUIDS
On May 27, 2023 4:37:20 PM PDT, "mick.crane" wrote: >I'm sure it used to be that you could swap linux discs between PCs and it >would sort itself out Yes, it still works like that. I do it frequently. but I try swapping disks about and booting and they complain >"Cannot find UUID..lots of identifying numbers" >and gives intramfs prompt. My guess is that the system was originally spread out on multiple disk drives. Fstab has links to partitions that are not at the same location. >Am I supposed to be able to sort it out from there? >like how? Review fstab and see what the links are, and remark out (#) the suspect and try again. Best of luck 爛 >mick > >
UUIDS
I'm sure it used to be that you could swap linux discs between PCs and it would sort itself out but I try swapping disks about and booting and they complain "Cannot find UUID..lots of identifying numbers" and gives intramfs prompt. Am I supposed to be able to sort it out from there? like how? mick
Re: Weird behaviour on System under high load
On 5/27/23 15:28, Christian wrote: New day, new tests. Got a crash again, however with the message "AHCI controller unavailable". Figured that is the SATA drives not being plugged in the right order. Corrected that and a 3:30h stress test went so far without any issues besides this old bug https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=947685 Seems that I am just jumping from one error to the next... 3 hours and 30 minutes? Yikes! Please stop before you fry your computer. 10 seconds should be enough to see a problem; 1 minute is more than enough. David
Re: NetworkManager, Iphone, Bullseye, and Bookworm
On 27.05.2023 22:43, Charles Curley wrote: I recently upgraded from an iPhone 8 to a 14. All of my various WiFi capable computers worked great with the iPhone 8's Personal Hotspot. However, the new iPhone does not appear to like Bullseye. Two computers show the same symptoms: the iPhone does not seem to like the password previously stored and known to work. On one, I even moved the old connection file aside and tried creating a new connection file. I entered the password, and had repeated requests to provide the password. However, I have Bookworm on an ancient IBM R51. That got on the Personal Hotspot immediately with no fuss. I also ran a recent live CD of Bookworm on one of the two failing Bullseye machines, and that worked immediately. On one of the Bullseye machines, I upgraded NetworkManager from backports. No go. So, is there something in that mess of dependencies that NetworkManager rides herd on that I should upgrade, preferably from Bullseye backports? Other thoughts? (Aside from install Bookworm immediately.) Probably, an updated "wpasupplicant" package is what you need. The version in "bullseye-backports" is slightly older, so you might need to build a backport from sources in "bookworm". $ rmadison wpasupplicant wpasupplicant | 2:2.7+git20190128+0c1e29f-4~bpo9+2 | stretch-backports | amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x wpasupplicant | 2:2.7+git20190128+0c1e29f-6+deb10u3 | oldstable | amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x wpasupplicant | 2:2.9.0-21 | stable | amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x wpasupplicant | 2:2.10-8~bpo11+2 | bullseye-backports | amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x wpasupplicant | 2:2.10-12 | testing | amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x wpasupplicant | 2:2.10-12 | unstable | amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x -- With kindest regards, Alexander. ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org ⠈⠳⣄
Re: Weird behaviour on System under high load
> Ursprüngliche Nachricht > Von: David Christensen > An: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Betreff: Re: Weird behaviour on System under high load > Datum: Fri, 26 May 2023 18:22:17 -0700 > > On 5/26/23 16:08, Christian wrote: > > > Good and bad things: > > I started to test different setups (always with full 12 core stress > > test). Boot from USB liveCD (only stress and s-tui installed): > > > > - All disks disconnected, other than M2. Standard BIOS > > - All disks disconnected, other than M2. Proper Memory profile for > > timing > > - All disks disconnected, other than M2. Memory profile, > undervolted > > and overclocked with limited burst to 4ghz > > - All disks connected. Memory profile, undervolted and overclocked > > with > > limited burst to 4ghz > > > > All settings so far are stable. :-/ > > Will see tomorrow any differences in non-free firmware and kernel > > modules and test again. > > > > Very strange... > > > If everything is stable, including undervoltage and overclocking, I > would consider that good. I think your hardware is good. > > > When you say "USB liveCD", is that a USB optical drive with a live > CD, a > USB flash drive with a bootable OS on it, or something else? If it > is > something that can change, I suggest taking a image of the raw blocks > with dd(1) so that you can easily get back to this point as you > continue > testing. > New day, new tests. Got a crash again, however with the message "AHCI controller unavailable". Figured that is the SATA drives not being plugged in the right order. Corrected that and a 3:30h stress test went so far without any issues besides this old bug https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=947685 Seems that I am just jumping from one error to the next... > > AIUI Debian can include microcode patches (depending upon processor). > If you are using such, I suggest adding that to your test agenda > first. > > > Firmware and kernel modules seem like the right next steps. > > > David > >
Re: thunderbird missing arrows for scrolling through list of email messages
On 5/26/23, zithro wrote: > On 05 May 2023 18:07, Lee wrote: >> On 5/4/23, zithro wrote: >> I think you also need >> user_pref("widget.gtk.overlay-scrollbars.enabled", false); >> >> and this is also nice >> user_pref("widget.non-native-theme.scrollbar.size.override", 20); > > I tried them all, but now there's a simple GUI option (see my other post > in this thread) ! \o/ yes, but Settings -> General -> Browsing -> Always show scrollbars shows a too-thin scrollbar with no up or down arrows at either end. >> From there I can select the Chicago95 theme as any user and if there's >> anything I don't like I can, once I figure out wtf needs to be changed >> (which can be a non-trivial task for me), make the change. > > That was my point, wtf needs to be changed ?! ^^ That's why I picked the Chicago95 theme .. it was _real_ close to what I wanted. Then again, I wanted different colors & I couldn't figure out how to get everything changed the way I wanted so I went back to the default :( The changes I've got now are: lee@spot ~/Templates/Chicago95-2.0.1/Theme $ diff -u5 -r Chicago95 /usr/share/themes/Chicago95 Only in Chicago95: cinnamon Only in Chicago95: gnome-shell diff -u5 -r Chicago95/gtk-3.0/settings.ini /usr/share/themes/Chicago95/gtk-3.0/settings.ini --- Chicago95/gtk-3.0/settings.ini 2020-06-29 10:33:20.0 -0400 +++ /usr/share/themes/Chicago95/gtk-3.0/settings.ini2023-05-27 17:10:25.257049595 -0400 @@ -1,4 +1,14 @@ [Settings] gtk-auto-mnemonics = 0 gtk-visible-focus = automatic gtk-menu-images = true + +gtk-menu-popup-delay=0 +# LR: delay between pointing the mouse at a menu and that menu opening (in milliseconds) + +gtk-primary-button-warps-slider = 0 +# LR: warp slider to click position (true) or move scrollbar by one page (false) + +gtk-overlay-scrolling = 0 +# LR: 0: always show scrollbars 1: hide the scrollbar until a mouseover + Only in Chicago95: gtk-3.22 Only in Chicago95: gtk-3.24 Only in Chicago95: index.theme Only in Chicago95: metacity-1 Only in Chicago95: misc Only in Chicago95: xfwm4_hidpi > I checked some themes in /usr/share/themes and ... well, I'll use my > theme as it is ! I hope you've got a better set of themes than I have - I tried all of them and didn't like any :( Regards, Lee
Re: Data Error Messages
I found an interesting thread from 3 years ago that might be related. Now don't laugh :-) Do you have a USB hub attached? Search the archives of this list for "EXT4-fs failed to convert unwritten extents to written extents -- potential data loss!" On Sat, May 27, 2023, 1:51 PM Mick Ab wrote: > A desktop PC is running Debian 11 with an AMD Ryzen CPU. > > The system has been running well, but now the following error messages > have been seen :- > > Message from syslogd@piglit at May 27 13:58:09 ... > kernel:[2083218.760570] EXT4-fs (dm-0): failed to convert unwritten > extents to written extents -- potential data loss! (inode 394119, error > -30) > [3135811:3135811:0527/135811.569191:ERROR:gpu_memory_buffer_support_x11.cc(49)] > > dri3 extension not supported. > > Message from syslogd@piglit at May 27 13:58:09 ... > kernel:[2083218.760570] EXT4-fs (dm-0): failed to convert unwritten > extents to written extents -- potential data loss! (inode 394119, error > -30) > > Any thoughts about why the above is happening, please ? > > The Opera browser was running at the time. Subsequent to the above > messages, it was found that neither the Opera or Chrome browser could be > opened. Firefox has been opened but seems to run in a basic mode. >
Data Error Messages
A desktop PC is running Debian 11 with an AMD Ryzen CPU. The system has been running well, but now the following error messages have been seen :- Message from syslogd@piglit at May 27 13:58:09 ... kernel:[2083218.760570] EXT4-fs (dm-0): failed to convert unwritten extents to written extents -- potential data loss! (inode 394119, error -30) [3135811:3135811:0527/135811.569191:ERROR:gpu_memory_buffer_support_x11.cc(49)] dri3 extension not supported. Message from syslogd@piglit at May 27 13:58:09 ... kernel:[2083218.760570] EXT4-fs (dm-0): failed to convert unwritten extents to written extents -- potential data loss! (inode 394119, error -30) Any thoughts about why the above is happening, please ? The Opera browser was running at the time. Subsequent to the above messages, it was found that neither the Opera or Chrome browser could be opened. Firefox has been opened but seems to run in a basic mode.
Re: GPT backup table, was Re: virtualisation
> Back in the (DOS/w95) days, you would usually create one primary and one > extended, and populate the extended with as many partitions as you want. IIRC the reason why there was still that one primary was that you could only boot to a primary partition. BTW, I don't use extended partitions any more, but I reproduce the above structure because I typically have one smallish [the 500MB HDDs of our 64bit DEC Alpha workstations felt quite spacious back then] partition for /boot and a second for LVM :-) Stefan
NetworkManager, Iphone, Bullseye, and Bookworm
I recently upgraded from an iPhone 8 to a 14. All of my various WiFi capable computers worked great with the iPhone 8's Personal Hotspot. However, the new iPhone does not appear to like Bullseye. Two computers show the same symptoms: the iPhone does not seem to like the password previously stored and known to work. On one, I even moved the old connection file aside and tried creating a new connection file. I entered the password, and had repeated requests to provide the password. However, I have Bookworm on an ancient IBM R51. That got on the Personal Hotspot immediately with no fuss. I also ran a recent live CD of Bookworm on one of the two failing Bullseye machines, and that worked immediately. On one of the Bullseye machines, I upgraded NetworkManager from backports. No go. So, is there something in that mess of dependencies that NetworkManager rides herd on that I should upgrade, preferably from Bullseye backports? Other thoughts? (Aside from install Bookworm immediately.) -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/
Re: GPT backup table, was Re: virtualisation
On 26 May 2023 11:47, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, mick.crane wrote: root@pumpkin:~# fdisk -l /dev/sda Disk /dev/sda: 223.57 GiB, 240057409536 bytes, 468862128 sectors ... Disklabel type: dos ... Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type /dev/sda1 * 2048 466862079 466860032 222.6G 83 Linux /dev/sda2 466864126 468860927 1996802 975M 5 Extended /dev/sda5 466864128 468860927 1996800 975M 82 Linux swap / Solaris Michael wrote: as i interpret this, the disk in questions has a dos partition table... Indeed. (And as mick.crane already noticed, it is a bit awkward to create an extended partiton 2 only to fill it nearly up with logical partition 5. I wonder what entity decided to do so.) IIRC, DOS types are limited to 4 "primary" partitions (or 2 ?), but extended partitions have no such limit, and can contain any number of others. Back in the (DOS/w95) days, you would usually create one primary and one extended, and populate the extended with as many partitions as you want. This way was used to avoid making mistakes : how many primary partitions do I have in the "root" table ? It's from memory, so 30 years old ^^
Re: GPT backup table, was Re: virtualisation
mick.crane wrote: > > I just installed bookworm on another SSD disk. > The installer said it was going to partition the disk one for the / and > another for swap > After the installation the extended partition was there. > Is this some attribute of pre formatted SSDs Nah, this is just the default. Run the partitioner yourself, get it to happen the way you want it to be. -dsr-
Re: GPT backup table, was Re: virtualisation
On 2023-05-27 10:33, Michael wrote: On Friday, 26 May 2023 11:47:04 CEST, Thomas Schmitt wrote: (And as mick.crane already noticed, it is a bit awkward to create an extended partiton 2 only to fill it nearly up with logical partition 5. I wonder what entity decided to do so.) on my debian 11 test vm with default installation it is exactly the same: root@debian11test:~# fdisk -l /dev/sda Disk /dev/sda: 20 GiB, 21474836480 bytes, 41943040 sectors Disk model: VBOX HARDDISK Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disklabel type: dos Disk identifier: 0x2e739d33 Device BootStart End Sectors Size Id Type /dev/sda1 *2048 39942143 39940096 19G 83 Linux /dev/sda2 39944190 41940991 1996802 975M 5 Extended /dev/sda5 39944192 41940991 1996800 975M 82 Linux swap / Solaris greetings... I just installed bookworm on another SSD disk. The installer said it was going to partition the disk one for the / and another for swap After the installation the extended partition was there. Is this some attribute of pre formatted SSDs I didn't zero the disk as my old systemrescueCD CD failed to successfully boot. I'll get a more recent copy. mick
Re : Re: outil libre et simple de discussion et de partage de ressources ?
Bonjour à tous, Je n'y connais pas grand chose mais je vois que Jami est basé sur SIP. Pourquoi ne pas utiliser SIP ? Dans wikipedia il est écrit : SIP n'est pas seulement destiné à la VoIP mais aussi à de nombreuses autres applications telles que la visiophonie, la messagerie instantanée, la réalité virtuelle ou même les jeux vidéo en ligne. Bonne réflexion Cassis - Mail d'origine - De: firenze.rt À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Envoyé: Thu, 25 May 2023 10:17:53 +0200 (CEST) Objet: Re: outil libre et simple de discussion et de partage de ressources ? http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;> Bonjour tout le monde,Jami est un logiciel qui volue trs vite. Il est donc difficile de dire catgoriquement sil est compltement fonctionnel ou pas. Cest surveiller.Personnellement, Jami ne ma jamais pos de problme pour lusage que jen fais (clavardage, partage de fichiers, visioconfrence 1:1).Ce que que je note, cest que les performances de Jami semblent largement tributaires du dbit de connexion disponible.Pour le clavardage, le partage de fichiers, ou un simple appel audio lADSL suffit ; mais pour une visioconfrence avec une qualit vido acceptable, la fibre est chaudement recommande.La fonctionnalit du point de rendez-vous, qui permet de transformer lordinateur hte en serveur de visioconfrence, permet aussi de palier la faiblesse du dbit de connexion des autres participants.La prise en main de Jami est similaire Skype, la diffrence que la cration dun compte ne ncessite absolument aucune donne personnelle et peut se faire hors-ligne. Les donnes du compte ne sont stockes que localement. Si on veut utiliser un mme compte sur un autre appareil, il faut le dupliquer partir dun fichier de sauvegarde.Il faut aussi noter que si on a le choix, il vaut mieux utiliser Jami sur un ordinateur de bureau (desktop/laptop) que sur un ordiphone (smartphone) ou une tablette. En dpit des progrs qui on t faits jusque-l, Jami reste gourmand en nergie.Pour en savoir plus :https://jami.net/; target="_blank">https://jami.net/@+Firenzeenvoy : 22 mai 2023 20:41de : Hugues Larrive hlarr...@pm.me : RogerT roger.tar...@free.frCc: debian-user-french@lists.debian.orgobjet : Re : Re: outil libre et simple de discussion et de partage de ressources ?Bonjour,La dernire fois que je me suis intress ce sujet javais trouv jami :Description-en: Secure and distributed voice, video, and chat platform - desktop client Jami is an end-to-end encrypted secure and distributed voice, video, and chat communication platform that requires no central server and leaves the power of privacy and freedom in the hands of users. . To some degree Jami provides similar functionality like Telegram, BigBlueButton, Jitsi Meet, etc do. . Jami supports the following key features: * One-to-one conversations * File sharing * Audio calls and conferences * Video calls and conferences * Screen sharing in video calls and conferences * Recording and sending audio messages * Recording and sending video messages * Functioning as a SIP phone software . Jami client applications for several desktop and mobile operating systems and platforms are available on https://jami.net/, making Jami an interoperable, cross-platform communication framework. .Je nai toujours pas eu loccasion de le mettre en uvre ou de le tester.Quelquun un retour dexprience partager sur jami ?@+Hugues--- Original Message ---Le dimanche 21 mai 2023 13:42, RogerT roger.tar...@free.fr a crit:Excellent. Si Framasoft lutiliseMerci. Le 19 mai 2023 12:25, Fab f...@kaz.bzh a crit : lut, Si on veut ou doit exclure Whatsapp, et mme Signal/Telegram/etc. , quel outil similaire et libre peut-on installer en un clin doeil sur un hte debian pour quiper un groupe de travail ? Mattermost ? cest ce quutilise Framasoft pour les milliers dquipes quils hbergent. Ainsi que de nombreux CHATONS. a+
Re: [SOLVED] Re: After upgrade to bookworm: Keyboard layout
Le 27 mai 2023 Hans a écrit : > The entry "acer_laptop" worked always well, but I also tried "pc-105" during > the time of the > issue, which also did NOT work. it's "pc105", but that don't change anything
Re: [SOLVED] Re: After upgrade to bookworm: Keyboard layout
Am Samstag, 27. Mai 2023, 13:26:04 CEST schrieb Jörg-Volker Peetz: Hi Jörg, yes, of course, but I guess, it does not content any usefull information, because I checked it before at the time the issue was active. There is no differnce to the actual state. But anyway, here it is: snip # KEYBOARD CONFIGURATION FILE # Consult the keyboard(5) manual page. XKBMODEL="acer_laptop" XKBLAYOUT="de" XKBVARIANT="nodeadkeys" XKBOPTIONS="terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" BACKSPACE="guess" --- snap --- The entry "acer_laptop" worked always well, but I also tried "pc-105" during the time of the issue, which also did NOT work. Best regards Hans > Could you show us the content of your /etc/default/keyboard ? > Regards, > Jörg.
Re: [SOLVED] Re: After upgrade to bookworm: Keyboard layout
Could you show us the content of your /etc/default/keyboard ? Regards, Jörg.
Re: GPT backup table, was Re: virtualisation
On Friday, 26 May 2023 11:47:04 CEST, Thomas Schmitt wrote: (And as mick.crane already noticed, it is a bit awkward to create an extended partiton 2 only to fill it nearly up with logical partition 5. I wonder what entity decided to do so.) on my debian 11 test vm with default installation it is exactly the same: root@debian11test:~# fdisk -l /dev/sda Disk /dev/sda: 20 GiB, 21474836480 bytes, 41943040 sectors Disk model: VBOX HARDDISK Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disklabel type: dos Disk identifier: 0x2e739d33 Device BootStart End Sectors Size Id Type /dev/sda1 *2048 39942143 39940096 19G 83 Linux /dev/sda2 39944190 41940991 1996802 975M 5 Extended /dev/sda5 39944192 41940991 1996800 975M 82 Linux swap / Solaris greetings...
Re: os-prober Just a Rant
On Fri, 26 May 2023 22:15:53 + (UTC) bw wrote: > > There is an etc/default/grub.d, which by analogy with other .d > > directories, can contain user overrides which are not touched by > > upgrades, but I made a quick attempt here which failed and I didn't > > have time to mess around with it. I can't find an example of doing > >it correctly on the Net, which is surprising, all the references I > >find are just for /etc/default/grub. Maybe someone here knows the > >right way? > > > > -- > > Joe > > $ cat /etc/default/grub.d/grubtweak.cfg > # If you change this file, run 'update-grub' afterwards to update > # /boot/grub/grub.cfg. > # For full documentation of the options in this file, see: > # info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration' > > # see /etc/grub.d/40_custom > GRUB_DEFAULT=plasma > > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash ipv6.disable=1 loglevel=3 > acpi_backlight=vendor" > > # use video=SVIDEO-1:d to fix screen flicker prob on two screens w/ > plasma desktop # can do this in 40-custom, SVIDEO-1 does not appear > in fluxbox? # i915 is broken, disabling video outputs doesn't work > > GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true" > > #GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=y > > GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER="true" > Thank you. -- Joe