Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World"

On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 04:34:42PM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: [...] > ANOTHER LESSON LEARNED > > While I was experimenting with the desktop settings, I stupidly and blindly > added an exit line to cut out some 20-year old cruft in the end of the > .profile file and all of a sudden I lost my

On folders vs. directories and history [was: how to compare...]

On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 11:17:01PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 12:16:54PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > This was in the 1970s when the graphical UI was being invented. The > > idea was that the screen was to look like an actual desktop which might > > have actual file

On weeds and bikesheds [was: How to compare one folder to one directory]

On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 08:37:22PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: [...] > This discussion went into the weeds rather quickly. If you don't like the weeds... stay out of them :) For the rest, the discussion is an interesting excursion into computer history and culture. > Next they will tell you

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory

On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 12:16:54PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > This was in the 1970s when the graphical UI was being invented. The > idea was that the screen was to look like an actual desktop which might > have actual file folders on it. Every icon was supposed to be an image > of a familiar

Re: touchpad buttons sometimes stop working for several seconds

On 03/11/2023 01:55, Vincent Lefevre wrote: (EE) event14 - VEN_04F3:00 04F3:311C Touchpad: kernel bug: Touch jump detected and discarded. See https://wayland.freedesktop.org/libinput/doc/1.22.1/touchpad-jumping-cursors.html for details I can actually see 6 messages like that in

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory

I wrote: > It comes from the Xerox "desktop metaphor". The idea was to hide scary > technical jargon behind familiar office jargon. Loris Bennett wrote: > Personally I don't see "directory" as being more scary or technical > than "folder". They are both words from the pre-computer age which >

rasp pi headless setup

I tried adding the required info into /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf before first boot (as well as my pub key in .ssh/authorized_keys), but that proved insufficient to get it on the 802.11. It had been so long since the last time that I forgot about putting the wpa_supplicant.conf on the

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory (was: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?)

On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 3:18 AM Loris Bennett wrote: > > writes: > > > I concur with Nicolas: every time you say "folder", a unicorn dies. > > What's the objection to 'folder'? I don't use it myself, but it seems > fairly reasonable to me. Many desktop environments use an old hanging > folder

Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World"

On Sun, Sep 24, 2023 at 09:27 Tom Browder wrote: > Every time I set up a new host, I have to jump through the hoops trying to On my main Debian 11 host I have found one formula that works for ssh logins as well as xterm login on a Mate desktop: I followed most of the formulas on the Debian

Re: report a Debian bug

On 11/2/23 01:05, gene heskett wrote: On 11/2/23 01:46, David Christensen wrote: On 11/1/23 18:34, gene heskett wrote: So what i'm going to do next is transfer my /home, the whole MaryAnn from a 4 drive raid10 to a single 2T SSD,, and then switch /home from the raid to a single drive,

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory

> "Loris Bennett" wrote: > > Personally I don't see "directory" as being more scary or technical > > than "folder". Apparently, Americans are scared of words with more than two syllables. debian-u...@howorth.org.uk (12023-11-02): > While I belong to the 'directory is the correct term' school of

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory

"Loris Bennett" wrote: > writes: > > > On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 09:12:45AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > >> Loris Bennett wrote: > >> > What's the objection to 'folder'? I don't use it myself, but it > >> > seems fairly reasonable to me. Many desktop environments use an > >> > old hanging

Re: touchpad buttons sometimes stop working for several seconds

Some additional details: the time during which the issue occurs varies very much: from 25" to 6'20". The time between two consecutive issues also varies and can be very short, such as 30". -- Vincent Lefèvre - Web: 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog:

Re: upgrade Debian-12 : Xorg noyau 6.1.0-13 ne fonctionne pas : résolu

On Thursday 02 November 2023 19:54:58 Basile Starynkevitch wrote: > Dans certains cas, le pilote libre nouveau pourrait remplacer le pilote > propriétaire Nvidia. > https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/ J'avais tenté le pilote libre "nouveau" quand je croyais que celui de "Nvidia GeForce GT 710"

Re: apt update does not work

On Thu 02 Nov 2023 at 12:09:55 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 04:56:59PM +0100, Martin wrote: > > I have installed old distribution > > # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 9.1.0 _Stretch_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 > > 20170722-11:29]/ stretch contrib main non-free > >

Re: touchpad buttons sometimes stop working for several seconds

On 2023-11-02 22:46:13 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 02/11/2023 04:51, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2023-11-01 20:15:49 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2023-11-01 09:09:45 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > > Can you move cursor during these periods? > > > > > > Yes, no issues with the

Re: upgrade Debian-12 : Xorg noyau 6.1.0-13 ne fonctionne pas : résolu

On 11/2/23 18:58, ajh-valmer wrote: Merci à ceux qui m'ont aidé. Résolu en installant les paquets "nvidia-tesla-470" depuis ceux de Debian. J'aurais préféré installer le driver proprio nvidia, mais il n'apparaît plus, dans leur base. Allez bon pas grave, ça marche aussi bien. Bonne soirée.

Re: upgrade Debian-12 : Xorg noyau 6.1.0-13 ne fonctionne pas : résolu

Merci à ceux qui m'ont aidé. Résolu en installant les paquets "nvidia-tesla-470" depuis ceux de Debian. J'aurais préféré installer le driver proprio nvidia, mais il n'apparaît plus, dans leur base. Allez bon pas grave, ça marche aussi bien. Bonne soirée. On Thursday 02 November 2023 17:09:23

Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12

On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 10:41:06PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 02/11/2023 00:44, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 10:00:45PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > > > > Doesn't allow-hotplug means adding a network adapter (e.g. a USB one), not > > > plugging network cable into an

Re: DEBIAN 12.2 NO RECONOCE IMPRESORA HP OFFICEJET 4630

While there are some on this list who may read and write Spanish, you should subscribe to the "debian-user-spanish" list if you prefer to use Spanish. Scott Denlinger On Thu, Nov 2, 2023, 12:34 PM José Villa Ruiz wrote: > Tenía instalado en ordenador debian 11.8 y la impresora funcionaba y la

Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12

On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 11:41 AM Max Nikulin wrote: > [...] > > I am a bit surprised by a use case when temporary unplugging of cable > should be ignored. I have not tested it, but I hope, a setting, I have > noticed in docs, allows NetworkManager to handle it as well. I think it is a bit broader

Re: upgrade Debian-12 : Xorg noyau 6.1.0-13 ne fonctionne pas

On Thursday 02 November 2023 15:38:07 Sébastien NOBILI wrote: > C'est plutôt nvidia-tesla-470-driver qu'il faudrait installer. > Probablement car le module est dispo pour l'une des versions du noyau > mais pas l'autre : > find /lib/modules/6.1.0-10-amd64 -name nvidia.ko > find

Re: apt update does not work

On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 04:56:59PM +0100, Martin wrote: > I have installed old distribution > # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 9.1.0 _Stretch_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 > 20170722-11:29]/ stretch contrib main non-free > (because that was newest distribution I had on DVD with me) > > I

apt update does not work

I have installed old distribution # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 9.1.0 _Stretch_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20170722-11:29]/ stretch contrib main non-free (because that was newest distribution I had on DVD with me) I configured network and now I am trying to update the system to sid. I

Re: touchpad buttons sometimes stop working for several seconds

On 02/11/2023 04:51, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2023-11-01 20:15:49 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2023-11-01 09:09:45 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: Can you move cursor during these periods? Yes, no issues with the cursor (mouse pointer). I would still try to disable typing detection to test

Re: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?

On 2023-11-02, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > I've tried to mount filesystems (all NTFS) with different locale parameters, > still ended up with either garbled filenames or charset conversion and 'path > too long' complains from rsync. I use rsync on ntfs without locale parameter. This is my

Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12

On 02/11/2023 00:44, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 10:00:45PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: Doesn't allow-hotplug means adding a network adapter (e.g. a USB one), not plugging network cable into an existing adapter (built-in or connected earlier)? Following the man page

Re: wine virtualbox ...

Si, i ha anat força bé. Ara estic encallat però amb la gestió que fa wine amb els ports usb. Garmin Express s'executa però no troba el dispositiu suposo perquè no existeix /dev/ttyUSBx sinó alguna altra forma de arribar al dispositiu. Salutacions Jordi Sent from MailDroid -Original

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory

writes: > On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 09:12:45AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: >> Loris Bennett wrote: >> > What's the objection to 'folder'? I don't use it myself, but it seems >> > fairly reasonable to me. Many desktop environments use an old hanging >> > folder icon in their file browsers. >> >>

AW: Panic again

Good afternoon Thank You Stupid asking again. How about booting DEBIAN then read grub and other system files and post them here? Regards Sophie Von: to...@tuxteam.de Gesendet: Freitag, 27. Oktober 2023 04:26 Bis: Cindy Sue Causey Cc: Debian Users Betreff:

Re: wine virtualbox ...

Hola, jo no puc ajudar-te, però si que et demano que ens diguis com ha acabat tot plegat Gràcies per tot i molta sort!!! El dijous, 2 de novembre de 2023, Jordi (<215...@runbox.com>) va escriure: > Bon dia, estic intentant instal.lar wine per poder fer servir el > programa "Garmin Express".

Re: wine virtualbox ...

Suposo que ja ho has vist, però per si de cas... https://christitus.com/garmin-express-linux/ No serveix aquest enllaç?? El dijous, 2 de novembre de 2023, Marc FP () va escriure: > Hola, > jo no puc ajudar-te, però si que et demano que ens diguis com ha acabat tot plegat > Gràcies per tot i

Re: upgrade Debian-12 : Xorg ne fonctionne plus

Le 2023-11-02 15:05, ajh-valmer a écrit : J'ai bien tapé cette commande avec le noyau 6.1.0-10-amd64 (Xorg fonctionnel) : dpkg-query: package 'nvidia-tesla-470-kernel-dkms' is not installed and no information is available. Avant d'installer le package 'nvidia-tesla-470-kernel-dkms', C'est

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory

On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 09:12:45AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Loris Bennett wrote: > > What's the objection to 'folder'? I don't use it myself, but it seems > > fairly reasonable to me. Many desktop environments use an old hanging > > folder icon in their file browsers. > > tomas writes: > >

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory

Loris Bennett wrote: > What's the objection to 'folder'? I don't use it myself, but it seems > fairly reasonable to me. Many desktop environments use an old hanging > folder icon in their file browsers. tomas writes: > This is Microsoft jargon. It comes from the Xerox "desktop metaphor". The

Re: upgrade Debian-12 : Xorg ne fonctionne plus

> Le 2023-11-02 12:35, ajh-valmer a écrit : > > J'ai upgradé ma Debian 12, dans le /boot, je vois 2 noyaux : > > 6.1.0-10-amd64 et 6.1.0-13-amd64 > > Si je boote avec le noyau 6.1.0-13-amd64, > > Xorg ne fonctionne plus, j'aboutis à un mode console. > > Si noyau 6.1.0-10-amd64, Xorg fonctionne

Re: upgrade Debian-12 : Xorg ne fonctionne plus

Le 2023-11-02 14:21, Michel Verdier a écrit : Il faut aussi les headers de la bonne version pour que dkms compile non ? dpkg -l linux-headers\* En effet, mais c'est une dépendance de dkms [1], lui-même étant une dépendance de nvidia-tesla-470-kernel-dkms [2]. Ils devraient donc être

Re: upgrade Debian-12 : Xorg ne fonctionne plus

Le 2 novembre 2023 Sébastien NOBILI a écrit : > J'imagine que le module noyau n'a pas été correctement recompilé > à la mise à jour. > Tu pourrais essayer cette commande : > > dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-tesla-470-kernel-dkms > > Tu devrais voir passer des messages qui indiquent que le module est >

Re: wine virtualbox ...

El dj. 02 de 11 de 2023 a les 13:26 +0100, en/na Narcis Garcia va escriure: > Fa uns quants anys que jo també vaig intentar fer executar el > programari > de Garmin a GNU/Linux, i crec recordar que el problema era el mateix: > L'accés a USB. > > Em van quedar dues alternatives: Una màquina

Re: wine virtualbox ...

Fa uns quants anys que jo també vaig intentar fer executar el programari de Garmin a GNU/Linux, i crec recordar que el problema era el mateix: L'accés a USB. Em van quedar dues alternatives: Una màquina virtual (que jo feia amb Qemu) i l'aplicació web de Garmin. El 2/11/23 a les 12:54,

Re: upgrade Debian-12 : Xorg ne fonctionne plus

Bonjour, Le 2023-11-02 12:35, ajh-valmer a écrit : J'ai upgradé ma Debian 12, dans le /boot, je vois 2 noyaux : 6.1.0-10-amd64 et 6.1.0-13-amd64 C'est donc deux versions identiques, la seconde étant une version corrective de la première. Si je boote avec le noyau 6.1.0-13-amd64, Xorg ne

upgrade Debian-12 : Xorg ne fonctionne plus

Bonjour, J'ai upgradé ma Debian 12, dans le /boot, je vois 2 noyaux : 6.1.0-10-amd64 et 6.1.0-13-amd64 Si je boote avec le noyau 6.1.0-10-amd64 le système graphique Xorg fonctionne très bien avec cette carte : nvidia-detect GK208B [GeForce GT 710] Your card is supported by the Tesla 470

DEBIAN 12.2 NO RECONOCE IMPRESORA HP OFFICEJET 4630

Tenía instalado en ordenador debian 11.8 y la impresora funcionaba y la reconocía perfectamente, al actualizar a la versión 12.0 incluso 12.2, el sistema no ve la impresora, incluso haciendo una instalación limpia de la versión 12.2. Espero me puedan ayudar, pues veo en internet que en debian 12.2

Re: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?

On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 02:42:41PM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: [encodings, file systems] > I've tried to mount filesystems (all NTFS) with different locale parameters, > still ended up with either garbled filenames or charset conversion and 'path > too long' complains from rsync. I

Re: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?

Alexander V. Makartsev (12023-11-02): > It could be also a limitation or bug of overlayfs since it doesn't have > locale/iocharset/codepage parameters for mount. No, it is not: Unix file names are made of octets, not characters. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?

On 02.11.2023 12:59, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Rsync wasn't helpful in my case. It refused to recognize file names properly, complaining about charset encoding, not even with --iconv parameters. Probably because of locale differences between my system and mounted filesystems and who knows what

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory

Hi, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > I concur with Nicolas: every time you say "folder", a unicorn dies. Loris Bennett wrote: > In German there are also two words: 'Ordner' (folder/binder) and > 'Verzeichnis' (directory/catalogue). People also use both more or less > interchangeably. But if you say

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory (was: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?)

On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 09:59:20 +0100 Nicolas George wrote: Michael Kjörling (12023-11-02): I don't have a reference handy, but I do distinctly recall reading that Microsoft introduced the term "folder" specifically to also be able to refer to a concept of "something which is _not_ a directory

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory (was: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?)

Michael Kjörling (12023-11-02): > I don't have a reference handy, but I do distinctly recall reading > that Microsoft introduced the term "folder" specifically to also be > able to refer to a concept of "something which is _not_ a directory > but containing a collection of some kind of items". >

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory (was: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?)

On 2 Nov 2023 08:54 +0100, from to...@tuxteam.de: >> What's the objection to 'folder'? I don't use it myself, but it seems >> fairly reasonable to me. Many desktop environments use an old hanging >> folder icon in their file browsers. > > This is Microsoft jargon. Eek. I don't have a reference

Re: Installing on Radxa Rock Pi 4B using SD-card-images

y...@vienna.at (12023-11-02): > > I ear with ARMbian you have to use Docker to build a kernel. That makes > > a pretty strong “why not ARMbian”. > No No what? No Docker is not necessary or no it is not a reason to ditch armbian? -- Nicolas George

Re: report a Debian bug

On 11/2/23 01:46, David Christensen wrote: On 11/1/23 18:34, gene heskett wrote: So what i'm going to do next is transfer my /home, the whole MaryAnn from a 4 drive raid10 to a single 2T SSD,, and then switch /home from the raid to a single drive, thereby removing the raid10 from the culprit

Re: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?

On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 12:36:23PM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > On 01.11.2023 22:55, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > I concur with Nicolas: every time you say "folder", a unicorn dies. > > > If I say tater instead of potato would it also make you sad? > Sorry to break it to you, but

Re: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?

Am 02.11.2023 um 08:36 schrieb Alexander V. Makartsev: > Rsync wasn't helpful in my case. It refused to recognize file names > properly, complaining about charset encoding, not even with --iconv > parameters. > Probably because of locale differences between my system and mounted > filesystems and

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory (was: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?)

On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 07:50:16AM +0100, Loris Bennett wrote: > writes: > > > I concur with Nicolas: every time you say "folder", a unicorn dies. > > What's the objection to 'folder'? I don't use it myself, but it seems > fairly reasonable to me. Many desktop environments use an old hanging

Re: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?

fslint (no longer in Debian) and dupeguru may be of interest to you. I have used both. RLH

Re: Installing on Radxa Rock Pi 4B using SD-card-images

On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 08:44:31 +0100 Nicolas George wrote: y...@vienna.at (12023-11-02): Why not try ARMbian? I ear with ARMbian you have to use Docker to build a kernel. That makes a pretty strong “why not ARMbian”. Regards, -- Nicolas George No

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory (was: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?)

Hi. On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 07:50:16AM +0100, Loris Bennett wrote: > writes: > > > I concur with Nicolas: every time you say "folder", a unicorn dies. > > What's the objection to 'folder'? $ mkdir /tmp/4 $ stat /tmp/4 | head -2 File: /tmp/4 Size: 4096Blocks: 8

Re: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?

Alexander V. Makartsev (12023-11-02): > Rsync wasn't helpful in my case. It refused to recognize file names > properly, complaining about charset encoding, not even with --iconv > parameters. > Probably because of locale differences between my system and mounted > filesystems and who knows what

Re: Installing on Radxa Rock Pi 4B using SD-card-images

y...@vienna.at (12023-11-02): > Why not try ARMbian? I ear with ARMbian you have to use Docker to build a kernel. That makes a pretty strong “why not ARMbian”. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?

On 01.11.2023 22:55, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: I concur with Nicolas: every time you say "folder", a unicorn dies. If I say tater instead of potato would it also make you sad? Sorry to break it to you, but unicorns were extinct a long time ago, along with BBS', modems, MSDOS, ISA-VLB slots,

How to compare one folder to one directory (was: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?)

writes: > I concur with Nicolas: every time you say "folder", a unicorn dies. What's the objection to 'folder'? I don't use it myself, but it seems fairly reasonable to me. Many desktop environments use an old hanging folder icon in their file browsers. In German there are also two words:

Re: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?

On 01.11.2023 20:07, Nicolas George wrote: Hi. Alexander V. Makartsev (12023-11-01): I have a "/source-folder/" which contains very large tree of folders and files. The word is “directory”, not “folder”. Oh, I'm so sorry, I didn't meant to invoke wrath of the ancients. I thought about it