Re: disable auto-linking of /bin -> /usr/bin/

2024-01-09 Thread Tim Woodall
On Wed, 10 Jan 2024, Jeffrey Walton wrote: I think some programs can break, like those that assume / and /usr are both mounted early in the boot process. I think the only guarantee is / will be mounted early, and all programs needed to boot are available from /. I thought there was a

Re: disable auto-linking of /bin -> /usr/bin/

2024-01-09 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 12:49 AM wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 05:06:33AM +, miphix wrote: > > If you were to issue 'ls -l /' You'll find that /bin, /sbin, > > lib{32,64,x32} are linked to their counterparts in /usr/. I under- > > stand the logic in doing so. However, for specific

Re: disable auto-linking of /bin -> /usr/bin/

2024-01-09 Thread Tim Woodall
On Wed, 10 Jan 2024, miphix wrote: If you were to issue 'ls -l /' You'll find that /bin, /sbin, lib{32,64,x32} are linked to their counterparts in /usr/. I under- stand the logic in doing so. However, for specific reasons that would require exhaustive explanations that I would prefer to save us

Re: disable auto-linking of /bin -> /usr/bin/

2024-01-09 Thread tomas
Hi, miphix On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 05:06:33AM +, miphix wrote: > If you were to issue 'ls -l /' You'll find that /bin, /sbin, > lib{32,64,x32} are linked to their counterparts in /usr/. I under- > stand the logic in doing so. However, for specific reasons that would > require exhaustive

disable auto-linking of /bin -> /usr/bin/

2024-01-09 Thread miphix
If you were to issue 'ls -l /' You'll find that /bin, /sbin, lib{32,64,x32} are linked to their counterparts in /usr/. I under- stand the logic in doing so. However, for specific reasons that would require exhaustive explanations that I would prefer to save us all from me doing, I would like to

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Filling the FAT

2024-01-09 Thread David Wright
On Tue 09 Jan 2024 at 15:30:49 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote: > David Wright [2024-01-09 10:07:26] wrote: > > but what seems most likely is that the root directory filled up. > > The size of that is fixed when formatted, at least up to FAT16. > > Long filenames will eat it up more quickly still. >

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-09 Thread David Christensen
On 1/9/24 14:34, David Christensen wrote: You can always run smartctl manual ... Correction: manually To get protection against two-device failure, you need 3-day mirrors ... Correction: 3-way Perhaps other readers with madm, ... Correction: mdadm David

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-09 Thread David Christensen
On 1/9/24 05:11, The Wanderer wrote: I have an eight-drive RAID-6 array of 2TB SSDs, built back in early-to-mid 2021. Within the past few weeks, I got root-mail notifications from smartd that the ATA error count on two of the drives had increased ... On Sunday (two days ago), I got

Re: Kernel compiling 6.5 and beyound

2024-01-09 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-01-09, HP Garcia wrote: > What dependencies did you install? All are installed with those commands, thanks Debian :) apt build-dep linux apt install build-essential libncurses-dev (last one for running menuconfig with ncurses)

Re: Change suspend type from kde menu

2024-01-09 Thread Valerio Vanni
Il 07/01/2024 06:44, Max Nikulin ha scritto: It seems neither su nor sudo add process to the user context (proper cgroup, XDG session), so attempts to talk to the systemd user session through D-Bus fail. setpriv --reuid 1000 --regid 1000 --init-groups --reset-env -- \    env

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Filling the FAT

2024-01-09 Thread Stefan Monnier
David Wright [2024-01-09 10:07:26] wrote: > but what seems most likely is that the root directory filled up. > The size of that is fixed when formatted, at least up to FAT16. > Long filenames will eat it up more quickly still. Long file names are actually kept in a (hidden) files, so they don't

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-09 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-01-09 at 14:01, Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 9 Jan 2024 13:25 -0500, from wande...@fastmail.fm (The Wanderer): > Within the past few weeks, I got root-mail notifications from smartd that the ATA error count on two of the drives had increased - one from 0 to a fairly low

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-09 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 9 Jan 2024 13:25 -0500, from wande...@fastmail.fm (The Wanderer): >>> Within the past few weeks, I got root-mail notifications from >>> smartd that the ATA error count on two of the drives had increased >>> - one from 0 to a fairly low value (I think between 10 and 20), the >>> other from 0 to

Re: Change suspend type from kde menu

2024-01-09 Thread Valerio Vanni
Il 06/01/2024 17:38, Max Nikulin ha scritto: On 06/01/2024 00:07, Valerio Vanni wrote: Now I'm looking: services are ├─/MainApplication ├─/Player ├─/Television ├─/TrackList └─/org    └─/org/kde └─/org/kde/kaffeine I tried to introspect the more likely, MainApplication and Television

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-09 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 9 Jan 2024 10:21 -0500, from wande...@fastmail.fm (The Wanderer): >>> Model Family: Samsung based SSDs >>> Device Model: Samsung SSD 870 EVO 2TB >> >> These may or may not be under warranty, > > I would be surprised if there were warranty coverage at > this point, but might look a bit

Re: Change suspend type from kde menu

2024-01-09 Thread Valerio Vanni
Il 06/01/2024 16:19, Max Nikulin ha scritto: On 06/01/2024 19:44, Valerio Vanni wrote: systemd-run --unit=kaffeine-resumed --uid="$kafuid" --gid="$kafgid" \    env XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/"$kafuid" $kafdis XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=KDE \    /usr/bin/kaffeine --lastchannel > /dev/null 2>&1

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-09 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-01-09 at 11:21, Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 9 Jan 2024 08:11 -0500, from wande...@fastmail.fm (The Wanderer): > >> Within the past few weeks, I got root-mail notifications from >> smartd that the ATA error count on two of the drives had increased >> - one from 0 to a fairly low value (I

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-09 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-01-09 at 11:12, Curt wrote: > On 2024-01-09, The Wanderer wrote: > >> My default plan is to identify an appropriate model and buy a pair >> of replacement drives, but not install them yet; buy another two >> drives every six months, until I have a full replacement set; and >> start

Re: Donate money

2024-01-09 Thread gene heskett
On 1/9/24 12:53, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Tue, Jan 09, 2024 at 11:30:52AM +1000, David wrote: Perhaps the Debian Project, represented in the media as `an unaccountable collective of hackers', will be next. Debian doesn't sell any products or services and doesn't take donations; the

Re: Donate money

2024-01-09 Thread David
On Tue, 2024-01-09 at 17:53 +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Tue, Jan 09, 2024 at 11:30:52AM +1000, David wrote: > > Perhaps the Debian Project, represented in the media as `an > > unaccountable collective of hackers', will be next. > > Debian doesn't sell any products or services and

Re: Donate money

2024-01-09 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Tue, Jan 09, 2024 at 11:30:52AM +1000, David wrote: > Perhaps the Debian Project, represented in the media as `an > unaccountable collective of hackers', will be next. Debian doesn't sell any products or services and doesn't take donations; the organisations that take donations on

Re: Where to report CVEs missing from the security tracker ?

2024-01-09 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2024-01-09 16:57 +0100, Jorropo wrote: > Hello, there are 6 CVEs on the golang-go package which are not on > https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/status/release/stable They are there, just not shown by default. Toggle the "include issues tagged no-dsa" checkbox to see them. > I

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Filling the FAT (was: playing CDROM music questions)

2024-01-09 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jan 09, 2024 at 10:57:29AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >>What are you talking about? FAT does not get “overloaded” by long > >>filenames. > > Seen it happen; > > I have serious doubts about the "it". > > > Long filenames, mixed case, and files saved at the beginning of > > a session

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Filling the FAT (was: playing CDROM music questions)

2024-01-09 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 10:07:26 -0600 David Wright wrote: Hello David, >The size of that is fixed when formatted, at least up to FAT16. >Long filenames will eat it up more quickly still. Create >subdirectories and the problem goes away. Yes, this is exactly what I experienced. So not the FAT at

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-09 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 9 Jan 2024 08:11 -0500, from wande...@fastmail.fm (The Wanderer): > Within the past few weeks, I got root-mail notifications from smartd > that the ATA error count on two of the drives had increased - one from 0 > to a fairly low value (I think between 10 and 20), the other from 0 to > 1. I

Where to report CVEs missing from the security tracker ?

2024-01-09 Thread Jorropo
Hello, there are 6 CVEs on the golang-go package which are not on https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/status/release/stable I couldn't find them either there https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?dist=unstable;package=golang-go The list is: - CVE-2023-29409

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-09 Thread Curt
On 2024-01-09, The Wanderer wrote: > > My default plan is to identify an appropriate model and buy a pair of > replacement drives, but not install them yet; buy another two drives > every six months, until I have a full replacement set; and start failing > drives out of the RAID array and

Re: Kernel compiling 6.5 and beyound

2024-01-09 Thread HP Garcia
What dependencies did you install? ~Herb On Tue, Jan 9, 2024, 7:23 AM Michel Verdier wrote: > On 2024-01-08, Herb Garcia wrote: > > > I was able to compile Linux kernel 6.1.X. > > > > When I tried compiling kernel 6.5.x and ran into issues. > > > > I download the required dependencies as

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Filling the FAT (was: playing CDROM music questions)

2024-01-09 Thread David Wright
On Tue 09 Jan 2024 at 10:57:29 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote: > >>What are you talking about? FAT does not get “overloaded” by long > >>filenames. > > Seen it happen; > > I have serious doubts about the "it". > > > Long filenames, mixed case, and files saved at the beginning of > > a session of

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Filling the FAT (was: playing CDROM music questions)

2024-01-09 Thread Stefan Monnier
>>What are you talking about? FAT does not get “overloaded” by long >>filenames. > Seen it happen; I have serious doubts about the "it". > Long filenames, mixed case, and files saved at the beginning of > a session of copying multiple files would be lost because the FAT was > filled, and

Re: playing CDROM music questions

2024-01-09 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 16:15:27 +0100 Nicolas George wrote: Hello Nicolas, >Pictures or it did not happen. Didn't bother because it appeared to be a well-understood phenomenon, based on my limited research. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-09 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-01-09 at 09:38, Dan Ritter wrote: > The Wanderer wrote: > >> So... as the Subject asks, should I be worried? How do I interpret >> these results, and at what point do they start to reflect something >> to take action over? If there is not reason to be worried, what >> *do* these alerts

Re: playing CDROM music questions

2024-01-09 Thread Nicolas George
Brad Rogers (12024-01-09): > Seen it happen; Long filenames, mixed case, and files saved at the > beginning of a session of copying multiple files would be lost because > the FAT was filled, and overwritten from the start by files added later > in the session. > > We are talking in excess of

Re: playing CDROM music questions

2024-01-09 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 13:25:52 +0100 Nicolas George wrote: Hello Nicolas, >What are you talking about? FAT does not get “overloaded” by long >filenames. Seen it happen; Long filenames, mixed case, and files saved at the beginning of a session of copying multiple files would be lost because the

Re: SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-09 Thread Dan Ritter
The Wanderer wrote: > So... as the Subject asks, should I be worried? How do I interpret these > results, and at what point do they start to reflect something to take > action over? If there is not reason to be worried, what *do* these > alerts indicate, and at what point *should* I start to be

Re: Filezilla werkt niet?

2024-01-09 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Hoi Arjen, Op 05-01-2024 om 17:54 schreef Arjen Bax: Hoi Paul, Verbazingwekkend dat sftp met filezilla niet werkt en met de standaard sftp-client wel. Inderdaad heel raar. Bij twee Windows klanten lukte het wel met WinSCP, en mij lukte het ook wel met gFTP. Hetzelfde probleem ook bij een

SMART Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt rising - should I be worried?

2024-01-09 Thread The Wanderer
This is not directly Debian-related, except insofar as the system involved is running Debian, but we've already had a somewhat similar thread recently and this forum is as likely as any I'm aware of to have people who might have the experience to address the question(s). I would be open to

Re: playing CDROM music questions

2024-01-09 Thread Nicolas George
Brad Rogers (12024-01-09): > Depends; I ended up buying three smaller sticks, because the > limitations of the file system meant that the File Allocation Table > got filled up wy before the larger capacity memory sticks did. The USB sticks we were discussing in this thread are way below the

Re: playing CDROM music questions

2024-01-09 Thread Nicolas George
Haines Brown (12024-01-08): > and that seems to have fixed the buffer problem. Nice. > The scripts folder is in my path. I holds many commands I regularly > use. > > Turns out that the "play" command was earlier taken by another > application. So I changed the command from play to Play, and

Re: Kernel compiling 6.5 and beyound

2024-01-09 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-01-08, Herb Garcia wrote: > I was able to compile Linux kernel 6.1.X. > > When I tried compiling kernel 6.5.x and ran into issues.  > > I download the required dependencies as required per > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v6.7/process/changes.html#changes To compile 6.5 I do apt

Re: VAX emulation/simulation (was Re: systemd-timesyncd)

2024-01-09 Thread gene heskett
On 1/9/24 03:15, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: You ruined my day :-) It was not my fault. Send complaints to the people who convened as "High Sierra Group" in 1986. Something similar to IBM's kludgiest relic of the early 1960s has appeared in linux? The unixoid

Re: VAX emulation/simulation (was Re: systemd-timesyncd)

2024-01-09 Thread Nicolas George
Bret Busby (12024-01-09): > Whilst, as I previously made the point, this is all off-topic for a Debian > operating system users mailing list, one (and, only one) of the applications > of version numbers as part of file descriptors, with (in the case of > VAX/VMS) up to the last seven versions of a

Re: VAX emulation/simulation (was Re: systemd-timesyncd)

2024-01-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Bret Busby wrote: > Whilst, as I previously made the point, this is all off-topic for a Debian > operating system users mailing list But i found a premium excuse in the debian-cd and debian-live ISOs. :o) > the last seven versions of a file, being retained, was a > useful tool for software

Re: serial-getty-ac8jik2j76sc5ckafg5...@public.gmane.org does not start

2024-01-09 Thread Anssi Saari
Rainer Dorsch writes: > Hello, > > I tried to start a serial console on ttyS0, but when I try to start the > serial-getty service, it does not return: > > root@master:~# systemctl status serial-getty@ttyS0.service > ○ serial-getty@ttyS0.service - Serial Getty on ttyS0 > Loaded: loaded

Re: dmesg reporting lots of errors apparently emanating from a Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller ...

2024-01-09 Thread Hans
I discovred on some BIOSes undocumented features: Some options can be enabled when set UEFI active, or also when setting a boot password and a BIOS password. Sometimes even new settings appear, when passwords are set. I know, this sounds weired, but as I said: this ware undocumented. Also

Re: VAX emulation/simulation (was Re: systemd-timesyncd)

2024-01-09 Thread Bret Busby
On 9/1/24 16:02, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: The idea that we need version numbers embedded in filenames involuntarily may be "natural" to somebody. I have never seen any version other than ";1" (and ISOs which simply ignore the specs about file names). It's a

Re: dmesg reporting lots of errors apparently emanating from a Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller ...

2024-01-09 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Jan 09, 2024 at 04:50:28AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 1/6/24, Albretch Mueller wrote: > > I may not even have an NVMe card in my computer as the manufacturer > > claims. > > My DELL Inspiron 5593 actually does have a M.2 512GB KIOXIA NVMe SSD, > which I need to use! The

Re: VAX emulation/simulation (was Re: systemd-timesyncd)

2024-01-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > You ruined my day :-) It was not my fault. Send complaints to the people who convened as "High Sierra Group" in 1986. > Something similar to IBM's kludgiest relic of the early 1960s has appeared > in linux? The unixoid community added System Use Protocol and