Re: Downgrading to xfree86 3.x
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 08:02:59PM -0600, Jeffrey Taylor wrote: I have an old VLB video card (ATI Graphics Ultra Pro). It does not appear to be supported in xfree86 4.x. How do I downgrade to xfree86 3.x in woody? apt-get install xserver-mach32 xserver-common-v3 Debian's 3.x and 4.x versions of X can co-exist without problems. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: out of space in /var/cache/apt/archives
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 09:19:11PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote: my /var is 465M. i'm trying to do and apt-get upgrade, which i haven't in a while, and got the following message: Need to get 69.0MB/109MB of archives. After unpacking 39.1MB will be used. E: Sorry, you don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/ to hold all the .debs. ... which is true: orange:~# df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda5 93M 25M 63M 29% / /dev/hda1 29M 2.1M 25M 8% /boot /dev/hda6 6.0G 1.8G 3.8G 32% /usr /dev/hda7 30G 27G 2.3G 92% /home /dev/hda8 465M 407M 34M 93% /var /dev/hda9 465M 5.5M 435M 2% /tmp so, it's pretty full. 288M of that is in /var/cache/apt/archives, and are a lot of debs. can i safely delete these all to make room for the new ones? there's nothing here that i need for these packages to run, right? just checking. Correct. 'apt-get clean' will delete them for you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD Burner and ide-scsi emulation
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 10:34:46AM -0600, Shyamal Prasad wrote: Thomas == Thomas Nyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thomas Hi Am an old SuSEr that has just switched to Debian. Can Thomas someone give me a helping hand getting hy hdc cd-rom Thomas burner working with ide-scsi emulation If you are using a standard Debian kernel this is quite easy to do once you figure out how the modular kernels are structured. Try the archives, for example (to quote myself ;-): http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200211/msg03316.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200211/msg05280.html This really should go in the user manual or something. YMMV, but in my case all I needed to do was include ide-scsi in /etc/modules (kernel-image-2.4.20-686). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't upgrade from slink to woody!
On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 08:41:37PM +, Pigeon wrote: On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 08:32:29PM +1100, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 02:25:24AM +, Pigeon wrote: On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 01:15:04PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Could you try updating to Potato first? That way, you won't be making such a huge version leap in almost every bit of software in one step. This is definitely the recommended option... Would I not then need a set of Potato CDs? (Doing it over dialup is not an option...) But I can't upgrade to anything if apt-get update is gonna segfault on me! Upgrade apt and dpkg first, before you try anything else. apt would have undergone enormouse changes in the, what, 3 years between slink and woody. Anyhoo, give that a shot...if that still doesn't work (and I'd imagine you'll have further difficulties later on...), upgrade debconf and other important looking things first as well. On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 23:30:34 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Just guessing, but maybe it's segfaulting because some data or other has changed format and is barfing apt. Thus, old data may not cause the problems? Also, maybe it would just be best to do a fresh install, and promise yourself that you'll never get so far behind again? Possibly... it handles my single slink CD OK. I tried upgrading apt first, but of course it required me to upgrade the @$?% C libraries... which breaks every other piece of software on the system... which is why I'd wanted apt to upgrade it all in one hit, to avoid this, which I'd gathered it could cope with. Maybe I expect too much. So I took a deep breath, hid my existing system in a /oldstuff directory, and installed woody afresh... pretty smooth, congrats to the Debian team. No real problems apart from some things like exim and jed changing the syntax and location of their config files, so transferring my old configs wasn't totally hack-free. Oh yes, and svgatextmode didn't work properly - the cursor didn't wrap to a new line when typing in a long command - so I reinstalled the old one. It's a cloud with a silver lining; it gives me a system which I am better able to clear of accumulated cruft. The directions you were given to upgrade apt and the problem you encountered rang a bell so I dug around a bit and found the information. There were static versions of apt and dpkg in the potato tree (in debian/dists/potato/main/upgrade-i386/), which were prepared specifically for upgrading from slink to potato. The use of these would have avoided the C library conflict and allowed the system to be upgraded, although it wouldn't have helped with the old config files and other cruft. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cd difficult to burn
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 02:02:16PM -0500, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: What I meant was: Wanting to burn a CD, first had to copy the original CD to an iso file to my hard disk. This copying process was the difficult one, as I said. I guess is my fault for not explaining well This has worked for me: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't get sound to work (CMIxxxx)
The driver should be provided with the kernel as a module. Try this: modprobe cmpci On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 04:21:14PM -0800, Jay wrote: I installed debian from the CD as the normal install, I do think that I'm missing something but I don't know what package contains it (dselect what?) Thanks again! - Jay. ~-Original Message- ~From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] ~Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 3:00 PM ~To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~Subject: RE: Can't get sound to work (CMI) ~ ~SNIP ~ ~Did you actually compile the kernel yourself or are you using ~something that is pre-compiled? ~Your problem sounds like you are missing sound support in the ~kernel. I think you are missing soundcore.o which is core ~sound support. ~ ~ ~Hope this helps. ~ ~ ~Davor ~ ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't get sound to work (CMIxxxx)
At least some of the Debian kernel-image packages (I run kernel-image-2.4.20-686) already contain many of the CMI drivers, so compiling your own shouldn't be necessary: # grep CMPCI /boot/config-2.4.20-686 CONFIG_SOUND_CMPCI=m # CONFIG_SOUND_CMPCI_FM is not set # CONFIG_SOUND_CMPCI_MIDI is not set CONFIG_SOUND_CMPCI_JOYSTICK=y CONFIG_SOUND_CMPCI_CM8738=y # CONFIG_SOUND_CMPCI_SPDIFINVERSE is not set # CONFIG_SOUND_CMPCI_SPDIFLOOP is not set CONFIG_SOUND_CMPCI_SPEAKERS=2 On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 01:26:07PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed debian from the CD as the normal install, I do think that I'm missing something but I don't know what package contains it (dselect what?) Thanks again! - Jay. OK, now I get it. You will need to install kernel-source-2.4.18 or something like that and compile your own kernel with CMI drivers/modules either compiled in or with those modules installed. This should fix it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel-headers compiling source
On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 12:25:12PM -0500, David Z Maze wrote: Jeff Penn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have read through the kernel-header docs, am still not sure I understand what they are for. I assumed that they enable source to be compiled when using a kernel-image. If this is correct, what is the procedure for compiling i2c-source or lm-sensors-source?. If you're compiling your own kernel, you should read those packages' respective README.Debian files, which give instructions. (Essentially, after you 'make-kpkg kernel-image', 'make-kpkg modules-image'.) If you're using one of the stock kernels, you may be comparatively out of luck; I'm trying to get packages into unstable that contain precompiled modules for the provided 2.4.20 kernels. *glances at ftpmaster* 'make-kpkg --append-to-version -686 modules-image' works for me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ethernet Adapter Configuration
On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 05:33:06PM -, Kevin Smith wrote: Hi All, Well, Debian Linux 3.0r1 (powerpc) installed and working like a dream, well just about anyway. ;) I'm trying to work out the ifconfig tool and how to assign more than 1 IP address to the ethernet card. I have an IP address assigned to eth0, however, I don't know how to assign another IP address to it. This is (bizarrely enough) easy in Windows 2000 as I currently have about 8 IPs on the ethernet card, but how do I do it with Linux? I thought I could do something like this: ifconfig eth1 up. But it reports: No such device. Any ideas? Unless of course ifconfig is not infact the correct tool...? From the IP-Alias mini-HOWTO: 2. Setup the loopback, eth0, and all the IP addresses beginning with the main IP address for the eth0 interface: /sbin/ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up /sbin/ifconfig eth0 172.16.3.1 /sbin/ifconfig eth0:0 172.16.3.10 /sbin/ifconfig eth0:1 172.16.3.100 172.16.3.1 is the main IP address, while .10 and .100 are the aliases. The magic is the eth0:x where x=0,1,2,...n for the different IP addresses. The main IP address does not need to be aliased. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot run X - missing /dev/mouse
Try changing Option Protocol auto to Option Protocol ImPS/2 On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 07:29:54PM -0500, Andrew Pierce wrote: I am still not getting a mouse in X. I tried this: cat /dev/mouse moved the mouse around, and got garbage characters on the screen. This means the mouse driver is loaded and working doesn't it? Why won't it work in X? In /var/log/XFree86.0.log, I am still getting the message: Cannot determine the mouse protocol Thanks again. Andrew Hmmm, two things... Check to make sure you have support in the kernel for the mouse (or the kernel modules for ps/2 mouse loaded). Also check if gpm is running 'ps ax | grep gpm'. If it is, do a '/etc/init.d/gpm stop' and try X again (/etc/init.d/gpm start to restart it). If that does the trick, you might want to remove gpm. Ken Andrew Pierce wrote: Thanks for the reply. However, it did not fix me. I created the sym link to /dev/psaux and retested by typing: XFree86 -xf86config /root/XF86Config.new and I am still getting an error with my mouse. XF86Config.new has this section: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/mouse EndSection Now the error I get is: (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Mouse0 (type: MOUSE) (EE) Mouse0: Cannot determine the mouse protocol Thanks again for any help. Andrew Type in 'ln -s /dev/psaux /dev/mouse'. That'll create a symlink called /dev/mouse that will point to /dev/psaux (Your PS/2 mouse). Ken Andrew Pierce wrote: I am having trouble running X. I just installed Woody r1 and I do not have a /dev/mouse which is what X is looking for. I do not understand why /dev/mouse is missing and how I should go about creating it. BTW, I have a Microsoft Wheel Mouse, P2/2 interface. Thanks in advance. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Driver for Netgear PCI Ethernet board?
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 03:32:27PM -0500, Thomas H. George,,, wrote: Is there a driver available for the Netgear FA311 Ethernet board. If so, where can I get it? For 2.4.x kernels, use the natsemi.o driver. Netgear provides driver source (fa31x.c) which will work with 2.2.x (it says for Redhat, but I was able to compile it on a Debian system running 2.2.20). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: opera or other fast browser
On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 06:57:12PM +0100, Florian Sukup wrote: Hi, I'm installing Debian on an old machine. Therefore, I need a fast browser. So, I thought Opera could be a good idea. But I can't find a package including it (at least not bin/opera). Is there a debian package for it? Yes, see http://www.opera.com/download/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: File rights
On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 10:15:46AM -0800, Daniel L. Miller wrote: Can some kind soul please point me to the documention area(s) that will let me understand file/directory rights per user? I've trying to use WINE, and install some Windoze programs - and I can't get user access to create the directories/files needed (of course, I can do it as root - but I'm not supposed to do that). Daniel man chmod -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get remove exim .... wants to remove more?
On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 07:38:43PM +0100, Jean-Marc V. Liotier wrote: On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 18:54, Andy wrote: I want to install qmail to give it a test drive and thought it might be a good thing to remove exim. But look at all that will be removed below Why does Debian want to remove all those other packages? steelhead:~# apt-get remove exim Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: anacron apache at exim leafnode logrotate mailagent mailx mutt qpopper samba swat Run dselect. First select qmail, and then deselect exim. That way, the smtp dependency will remain satisfied. Unfortunately qmail can't be distributed as a binary. However there is a qmail-src package which can be used to build a binary .deb package. Hopefully that will provide mail-transport-agent and conflict with exim, making it installable without removing the other packages. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [apt] Disabling upgrade to insecure packages
On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 12:27:01PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 07:04:37PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: Well, if one could put on hold a particular version of a package (given by the user), it would be better than nothing. Is there a way to do this? You could grab the source, edit the changelog to incriment the version, and recompile. It would effectively put it on hold until a package became available with a greater version number. Other than that, I don't think so. In most cases of security alerts, both stable and unstable get prompt updates with the necessary fixes, but testing does not (until the unstable version migrates downward). I'm running testing and have used 'apt-get -b source' to grab the unstable source and build a package of the newer version, where necessary. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Making a DSL server
On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 01:18:32AM -0800, nate wrote: Michael D. Crawford said: That would be great if I could just do DHCP ethernet. But I have visited people who had DSL connections in their homes, that required them to run some windows program to authenticate. if thats the case then I reccomend not using such providers. As you will probably come accross providers that use USB modems which are not supported, or internal PCI modems.. Qwest for example used to sell an internal Intel PCI modem for DSL service(it was that or the external cisco when I ordered), which as far as I know was/is not compadible with linux(at least at the time). It wasn't even compatible with Windows 2000 (and Qwest was still providing them after Intel stopped supporting that model)! you may be better off just going with a dialup connection or ISDN. At least with dialup there are several large nation wide ISPs(and world wide) you can test with, I would expect them to use the same form of authentication throughout their POPs. nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Bob Nielsen, N7XY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bainbridge Island, WA IOTA NA-065, USI WA-028S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IP firewalls
One can use ipfwadm (or ipchains) in addition to iptables with 2.4.kernels: CONFIG_IP_NF_COMPAT_IPFWADM This option places ipfwadm (with masquerading and redirection support) back into the kernel, using the new netfilter infrastructure. It is not recommended for new installations (see acket filtering'). With this enabled, you should be able to use the ipfwadm tool exactly as in 2.0 kernels. On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 02:09:11PM -0800, nate wrote: Caleb Walker said: I am thinking about upgrading my firewall hardware soon and along with that I was thinking of installing Debian. It is running FreeBSD along with many other applications but my question is, can I use ipfw instead of iptables? I do not know how to use iptables or ipchains but I am very comfortable with ipfw. Thanks in advance. not that I know of, only ipchains and iptables .. no ipfw or ipf on linux. There used to be an ipf a few years ago but that was back in the 2.0.x days. I don't think there's ever been ipfw available for linux. my firewall is freebsd too, runs 2 NICs in bridged mode w/ipfw and my NIDS. Behind that is my NAT box which runs linux 2.2.x and ipchains. nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Bob Nielsen, N7XY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bainbridge Island, WA IOTA NA-065, USI WA-028S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: console messages flit by too fast
Shift-PgUp? On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 01:57:17AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: I can't believe this is still not solved. I boot the system. I see some ominous warnings. They scroll by so fast and are gone. E.g. something about mtab. Ok, cd /var/log; grep mtab * */* Nothing. You will answer oh, mtab, don't worry about that. But the general problem of messages that appear at boot but go off the screen is not solved for me still. Am I really supposed to hit ^S^Q like back 30 years ago? What if I am not fast enough still? You will answer: that is the fault of whatever package author for also not logging his message to syslog. But that isn't helping me: what package? the name went by too fast. Isn't there something that I can turn on to capture all these, or are we too early in the startup? Am I supposed to boot my system thru some remote terminal like the certainly must do a Linux Labs so they can scroll back? But I only have 1 equipment and am not into learning something fancy. Perhaps all the stupid questions I post about why I can't enter the audio age could be solved if I didn't miss one of those ominous messages that go by too fast. I hit ALT CTRL F1 etc. but I don't suppose those `man console(4)` tty can be scrolled backwards. -- http://jidanni.org/ Taiwan(04)25854780 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Desperate for Mplayer apt sources
On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 05:33:20PM +0800, Elijah wrote: Hello, I'm trying to install Mplayer 386 or 686 via synaptic but it seems I don't have libvidencore0. I checked out libvidencore0's dependency and it requires libc6. It doesn't seem to accept my current libc6 (currently installed) because it needs at least version 2.3 upwards. I've searched the debian site and only found libc6 version 2.2.5. Can someone help me find a newer version for this? Add the following to your sources.list: deb http://marillat.free.fr stable main $ apt-cache show libxvidencore0 Package: libxvidencore0 Priority: optional Section: libs Installed-Size: 572 Maintainer: Christian Marillat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Architecture: i386 Source: xvid Version: 20020822-0.0 Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.4-4) ^^ Filename: dists/stable/main/binary-i386/libxvidencore0_20020822-0.0_i386.deb Size: 137552 MD5Sum: aa692e8aba30e1204d5ce77888c08c8f Description: MPEG-4 Video encoder This codec is the open source video codec from Project Mayo, now developed by others people. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: old /lib/modules still there after purging kernel
On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 06:27:24AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: I long ago stopped using the older kernel, 2.2. However in /lib/modules/ I see 2.2.20/ 2.2.20-idepci/ 2.4.18-k7/ . What is the recommended way of cleaning up the older ones? Is the user supposed to just rm -r? -- http://jidanni.org/ Taiwan(04)25854780 Perhaps you have created some customized module packages and did not remove those (check the misc subdirectory). If so, just remove the appropriate packages. rm -r should be safe, however. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Woody-FreeBSD box via null modem cable
On Mon, Dec 30, 2002 at 02:14:02PM +0100, Holger Rauch wrote: Hi! I would like to connect to a FreeBSD box from Woody using a null modem cable. The FreeBSD box is already set up properly (a getty is running on one of the serial ports). The serial cable is connected to ttyS1 on my Debian box. I tried to set things up using minicom -s: 1. I entered the serial port the cable is connected to (on my Debian box): /dev/ttyS1 2. I set the modem init string to the empty string. Do I need any other software package besides minicom on my Debian box? Is there some article/howto explaining null modem cable setups in greater detail? (I was looking at the serial port console howto, but this one covers only the pin layout for null modem cables. Besides, this howto mostly deals with redirecting *boot* messages to the serial console, which is not what I'm interested in.) You could also set up slip (serial line IP) networking between the two computers over the serial port using slattach (in the net-tools package). See the Net-HOWTO for details. This typically is limited to ~115 kbps data transfers. You could then use telnet, ssh, ftp, etc. A pair of cheap NICS and a crossover cable will offer better performance, however. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fetchmail security problem and sarge
There is a new Debian security advisory about fetchmail. Since sarge does not get security updates (why not??), I built a new package using unstable source. This is not installable, because fetchmail-common does not get built. Is there any way around this? Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!
On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 09:44:23AM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: On Wed, 25 Dec 2002, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 06:36:22AM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: On 24 Dec 2002, John Hasler wrote: Bill Moseley writes: I just don't think it unreasonable that there could be periods of time when ntp can't connect to the remote hosts -- and that should not stop ntp. Chrony is designed to work with intermittent connections. Any idea why it conflicts with ntpdate? Installing it remvoed ntpdate. ntp didn't conflict with ntpdate. No idea...chrony is a lot smarter than ntpdate though; it gradually moves your clock back and forth so that running apps don't get confused, as well as tracking how inaccurate your hardware RTC is, and fixing it while it drifts. Overall, a very cool tool. Maybe I missed this in the docs, but I didn't see that it updates the hwclock during normal execution. It can be made to update the hwclock (the example they give is in a ppp-down.d script), but in my case the machine boots and ppp comes up and the only time it goes down has been a power failure. So pp-down.d scripts are not called. Did I miss something? As John Hasler recently pointed out, add 'trimrtc' to /etc/chrony/chrony.conf. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fetchmail security problem and sarge
I figured it out--fetchmail-common no longer exists with the newer version. Using --force-depends with dpkg got fetchmail to install. On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 09:18:00AM -0800, Bob Nielsen wrote: There is a new Debian security advisory about fetchmail. Since sarge does not get security updates (why not??), I built a new package using unstable source. This is not installable, because fetchmail-common does not get built. Is there any way around this? Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mixed install of Open Office 1.0.1
On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 07:11:34PM +0100, Roland Wegmann wrote: Hello I have seen there is a lot traffic because of OpenOffice. I was really happy, when I realized that OO is in unstable. I'm running testing on my iBook (11.2002) and try run do a mixed system in order to install OO. It's not necessary to have a mixed system. You can get OO 1.0.1 for testing by putting the following in /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://ftp.openoffice.tuxfamily.org/openoffice testing main contrib -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: text mode pdf and msword reader?
On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 11:30:42PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 10:57:00AM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: hello all from a gui die-hard, i have started using console extensively. mutt, vim and all :) much faster - i must say. off and on, i get mail having pdf files and word documents as attachments. i have to run x and use xpdf and abiword for these. are there any utilities that will let me read pdf files and word documents in console? Dunno about pdf, but package 'catdoc' should help with word documents. pstotext will handle much pdf stuff. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: boo lexmark (was: Which USB portable memory?)
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 11:52:58AM -0800, Vineet Kumar wrote: * p ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021220 11:45]: hi, for my sd/mmc (secure digital/multimedia card), sandisk works flawlessly, mounted as /dev/sda1. a lexmark card reader is frigid towards my linux box. ergo, ...can't recommend lexmark. lexmark also makes printers that won't work without windows, which is why we wouldn't want our wages in their wallets. good times, Vineet But so most of the others, and if we avoided all manufacturers who make winprinters, the choice would be pretty meager. One does need to check the specs before buying (the lower-end stuff is most suspect). Lexmark also makes printers with built-in PostScript, which is, in general, better supported in Linux than Windows. I'm quite pleased with my $300 Optra E312, which understands both PS and PCL. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: simple exim configuration
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 11:57:02PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: John Griffiths wrote: At 11:17 PM 12/18/02 -0700, Paul Scott wrote: What do I need to do to get exim to get mail from my ISP? Or at least where is the best document or tutorial to read to answer my own questions? exim doesn't fetch mail fetchmail fetches mail. Thanks. So that's why I had such a hard time answering my question. :( I knew that fetchmail fetched mail but I didn't realize that exim didn't. I've really been wanting to try fetchmail anyway. from the sound of it you don't really need exim (or any MTA) at all, but you might want to have it configured to forward mail to your ISP - up to you. That might be after I sort out some other parts but from your comments it looks like I don't need exim. OTOH when I tried 'apt-get remove exim' apt-get wanted to remove mutt also. if you're going to be sending all your mail from mozilla mail it might not be worth worrying about. I have been happy with Mozilla Mail for a long time but I have been wanting to learn how to use mutt and fetchmail, etc. for some time as well. if you want to use mutt then go with option 3 for a satellite system from eximconfig and set your aliases the way you need them It was the wording of option 1 that made me think it would fetch my mail even though it didn't ask me how to get to my ISP. fetchmail to get the mail, procmail to sort it, mozilla or mutt to display it, you're all set. That sounds great. Thanks. Any ideas why I can't apt-get remove exim without removing mutt? If you were to remove exim, mutt would not be able to meet its dependency requirement for a mail transport agent. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Printer Recommendations?
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 06:44:32AM -0500, Mark L. Kahnt wrote: On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 04:19, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 16 Dec 2002, Nicolaus Kedegren wrote: I could not agree more with you. A used HPLJ4 cost me $125, and a refill cartridge about $45 at the same place. Although, I do believe that the toner cartridge was full, 500 pages so far and still going strong. My personal Computer related Best Buy so far. Beats any other peripheral I have bought during the years come and gone since the Sinclair ZX80. ( Yeah, we are still alive). -- Best Regards I have a used HPLJ6, which I got for nothing because it was being thrown out. It works well with Linux but the sheets in the paper feed constantly stick together so it is difficult to use except for single pages (which I think is why it was being thrown out in the first place). AC -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]|| http://www.acampbell.org.uk using Linux GNU/Debian || for book reviews, electronic Windows-free zone || books and skeptical articles That was a design flaw of the top feeding system - the 5L also does that (I have one that is otherwise an excellent low volume printer.) Never letting the paper feed get low and fluffing the paper before you put it in each time helps considerably, but it isn't a certain solution. Apparently there is a Windows-based software tweak that can help (???) but part of the basic problem is natural static electricity. If you watch an HP printer that feeds from below the toner cartridge, they almost shake each sheet to ensure they are only pulling one now. I'm seeing the same thing with a Lexmark Optra E312 (which I picked because of a recommendation on www.linuxprinting.org). Other than that, it's a great printer for a great price ($300 two years ago, including PostScript and PCL with 4 MB RAM). The cartridges are pricey (~$100) but are good for 6000 sheets. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Printer Recommendations?
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 09:41:59AM -0600, Kirk Strauser wrote: At 2002-12-17T18:48:32Z, Jon Dick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I got mine after a few weeks, it doesn't cost you anything. It's just a bit of cardboard that you have to ram down into the paper tray so that it replaces the 'separation pad' that apparently gets worn out on older models. Does it strike anyone else as funny that a major manufacturer is sending out patches to their products in the form of little pieces of cardboard? Still, if it works... No more so than the plastic contraption with scotchbrite pads they came up with to clean the rollers of some Deskjet models. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: urgent - system slow after spamassassin
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 12:30:07PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: hello all after installing spamassassin, my system has become terribly slow! i thought that it must be becasue spamd is trying to scan all messages. so i modified ~/.spamassassin/user-prefs. here is how it looks: whitelist_from debian* whitelist_from mutt* whitelist_from vim* now i realize that this has hardly made any difference. for instance, messages from [EMAIL PROTECTED] appear to be coming from the sender. what is more, off and on, a message props up saying kmod - runaway modprobe loop assumed and stopped what is that? when my system was crawling, i tried top and it showed several exim processes - some of them defunct! how do i restore sanity with spamassassin on? for writing this e-mail, i have turned it off I experienced this also. The whitelist won't help, since the message still gets processed by spamassassin. If you use spamc, which is the daemonized version of spamassassin, it will run somewhat faster, since it is written in C rather than perl. It only helps a little, however, since it still needs to invoke multiple exim processes. I ended up also running fetchmail as a daemon as well, getting messages from my ISP every ten minutes or so to avoid being overrun by a large number of concurrent messages. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spamassasin says Debian 3.0r1 announcement is spam...
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 09:44:18AM -0500, Edward Guldemond wrote: On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 08:03:32AM -0600, Shyamal Prasad wrote: I am sure some one else noticed, or did the annoucement just fly by most people? I know this is not a bug but I am sure it is a noteworthy fact ;-) The spamassassin in sid let it through just fine. (Then again, I seriously doubt that you're running sid on your server :-)) I run testing with the cvs version of spamassassin (2.50, updated daily) which had no problems with that message. If you want to use this, put the following in your sources.list: deb http://people.debian.org/~duncf/debian/ sarge main It looks like a slightly older version (2.43) is available for stable from the same source. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dist-upgrading when tracking testing
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 04:13:42PM +, Benedict Verheyen wrote: Hi, currently i'm tracking testing/unstable and with the release of 3.0r1 i was wondering if i would have to do a dist upgrade too? I suppose not since i'm not tracking stable but when is this command usefull then if tracking testing/unstable? Well, the release of 3.0r1 won't matter, but I typically use dist-upgrade so I can catch any new dependencies. I also use -u to list what will be upgraded so I can decide to abort if I wish, When the big libc6 upgrade comes to testing, I will probably hold off for a while (I've been caught before, with unstable). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apm
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 06:34:27PM +, daves debian wrote: Am i right in thinking that I need apm compiled in the kernel to allow my system to turn its own power off when i shutdown -h now ?? All the documentation seesm to be about laptops and batt saving ? I run a full size system. Yes, but it can also be compiled as a module, not necessarily in the kernel itself. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is it possible to switch these processors?
Slot 1 processors are on a daughterboard which plugs into the motherboard, while socket 7 (and all socket*) processors plut directly into a socket on the motherboard. In many cases the socket itself will designate socket 7 or similar. Slot 1 was (IIRC) only used for Pentium 2 and some early Celeron processors. Another consideration which hasn't been mentioned is that the BIOS on one board may not be compatible with the other processor. On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 12:51:49PM -0500, Wathen, Metherion wrote: How do I find out if the processors are socket 7 or slot 1? I assumed they were both socket 7; so my question now is, is there something on the processor that would indicate the socket type? Additionally where do i go on the net to find out info on motherboards, monitors, etc., if the OEM is no longer in business or around. thanks for all the help, mw. -Original Message- From: Mike Dresser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 12:36 PM To: Wathen, Metherion Cc: Debian-User (E-mail) Subject: Re: Is it possible to switch these processors? On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Wathen, Metherion wrote: Hi all, I have an older system with a P100 processor, I have another older system with P450 processor. what dangers do i face in swapping the processors? thanks in advance. mw Most likely, is the fact the p100 is a socket 7 processor, and the p450 is a slot1 processor. Totally different connectors, different motherboards, different ram types, etc etc. Not going to happen. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X server problem
You might try installing xserver-svga, which is X 3.3.6, but is supported in woody. I used it with Diamond video cards in the past and it worked fine with 16 bpp. I don't believe the X folks are supporting a lot of the older cards in 4.x. On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 12:45:25PM -0800, Bruno Freitas wrote: Hi, I am having the following problem: Everytime I try to start the xserver, with 16 or higher bpp, I receive an error message saying that the device I am using does not support 16 bpp. My computer is a Pentium 166 MMX, 32 mb, Diamond Stealth 2500 (OS is Debian Woody). As I do not have the option to choose a svga or a proprer Diamond driver, I am using (by force) the vga option. Can you help me? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dist-upgrade (potato-woody): how to get X back up?
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 08:09:31AM -0600, will trillich wrote: On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 10:31:45PM -0800, nate wrote: will trillich said: attached is the /var/log/XFree86.0.log file (sorry for the size)... hope it sheds some light on this. i'd love to get X working again. (why was it so easy in potato? was i just lucky?) sounds to me like /dev/mouse doesn't point to your mouse device. this is a very common problem when running X -configure if your mouse is PS/2 do: cd /dev ln -s psaux mouse if it's something else..well then you may need another driver(s) for USB or something before starting X, I think the default usb mouse device in debian 3.0 is /dev/input/mice or something it's an elder box -- the mouse is a 9-pin, 2-row arrangement (db-9 i believe) which apparently indicates a serial device? gpm works fine in console mode... is there a way to funnel the gpmdata thru to X? Set the repeater type to raw in gpm.conf and set the mouse to dev/gpmdata for X. and when i do the XFree86 -xf86config /root/XF86Config.new i do get the boilerplate bitmap with a centered (immobile) pointer; but when i try startx (using the above config as /etc/X11/XF86Config) i get only snip (II) Module mouse: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 (II) MGA: driver for Matrox chipsets: mga2064w, mga1064sg, mga2164w, mga2164w AGP, mgag100, mgag100 PCI, mgag200, mgag200 PCI, mgag400, mgag550 (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device (--) Chipset mga2064w found (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a (II) Module vgahw: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.1.0 (**) MGA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 (==) MGA(0): RGB weight 888 (II) MGA(0): Matrox HAL module not found - using builtin mode setup instead (--) MGA(0): Chipset: mga2064w (==) MGA(0): Using AGP 1x mode (**) MGA(0): Using framebuffer device (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfbdevhw.a (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.0.2 (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfbdevhw.a (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Fatal server error: no screens found When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send the full server output, not just the last messages. This can be found in the log file /var/log/XFree86.0.log. Please report problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED] X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). aaugh! -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 2.2; Linux server 2.2.17 #1 Sun Jun 25 09:24:41 EST 2000 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #88 from Jesse Goerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Ever wondered WHAT DOCUMENTATION IS ON YOUR SYSTEM? And if there was an easy way to browse it? apt-get install dhelp dhelp or for those running the testing distribution, try doc-central as well. Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get update then apt-get upgrade, remaining a lots package not install
I suspect there is some missing dependency problem. Unfortunately apt-get isn't very good about identifying the specifics of these. You might try 'apt-get dist-upgrade' or use dselect. On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 02:35:41PM -0700, eric lin wrote: Dear advance linux user: under choice of source as test, I type apt-get update progeny:/home/fsshl# apt-get update Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/main Packages Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/main Release Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/contrib Packages Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/contrib Release Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/non-free Packages Hit http://http.us.debian.org testing/non-free Release Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done progeny:/home/fsshl# apt-get upgrade Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages have been kept back abiword apache apache-common apmd apt ash autoinstall balsa base-config bzip2 communicator console-data console-tools console-tools-libs cvs debhelper debian-policy dh-make dia discover dnsutils dpkg elm-me+ eog eperl eterm fileutils freetype2 gabber gedit gftp glade-gnome glimmer gmc gnome-applets gnome-control-center gnome-core gnome-help gnome-panel gnome-panel-data gnome-session gnome-utils gnomeicu gnucash gnumeric gnupg gnus groff gs gsfonts imagemagick libaudiofile-dev libbz2 libcapplet-dev libcapplet0 libdps-dev libglib1.2 libglib1.2-dev libmagick5 libnspr4 libpam-modules libpanel-applet-dev libpanel-applet0 librep9 libwww-perl lprng mc-common mozilla netpbm netscape ntp openssl parted perl-5.005-doc psgml python-dev python-doc python-gdk-imlib python-glade python-gnome python-gtk python-numeric rep rep-gtk rep-gtk-gnome samba samba-common sawfish-gnome shellutils slrn smbclient sox squid ssh swig sysklogd tetex-bin textutils util-linux vflib2 vim-gtk vm w3-el-e20 wget xchat-gnome xemacs21 xemacs21-bin xemacs21-mule xemacs21-support xemacs21-supportel xlibmesa-dev xlibosmesa-dev xpdf xscreensaver xserver-8514 xserver-agx xserver-common xserver-common-v3 xserver-mach32 xserver-mach8 xserver-p9000 xserver-s3 xserver-svga xserver-xfree86 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 124 not upgraded. progeny:/home/fsshl# then apt-get upgrade, but the result is unoptismistic, it remaining have a lots of packages can not be install although no error like to see any tech hints or opinion highly appreciate your time and effort and help sincere Eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: file system
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 11:12:54PM -0500, Bruce Park wrote: Hello Debian users, I need some help regarding file system in Linux. Currently, I have four partitions on my hard drive. I will use Grub's notation for representing an IDE primary-master hard drive hd0,0 - Windows (NTFS) hd0,1 - boot (ext 2) hd0,2 - swap (swap) hd0,3 - root (ext 3) When I boot using Grub, I'm having problems loading the linux portion. Here's what I have in /boot/grub/menu.lst title Debian GNU/Linux root (hd0,1) kernel /vmlinuz-2-4.18-bf2.4 root=/dev/hda4 ro I keep getting an error stating that it wants an ext 2 file type. I'm thinking that since boot is ext2 and root is ext3, this is causing this problem. I would like to solve this problem by converting the boot partition to ext 3. Would this solve the problem? If so, how can I perform such file conversion without losing data in that partition? I'm not aware of an incompatibility with mixed ext2/ext3 partitions, but you can easily convert by using: tune2fs -j /dev/hda2 Also edit /etc/fstab to indicate that the partition is ext3. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: grub question - please help
Try line 7 without the leading /: kernel vmlinuz-2.4.18-bf2.4 root=/dev/hda4 ro The vmlinuz in / is just a symlink to the real file and is not needed. On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 12:47:48AM -0500, Bruce Park wrote: Hello folks, I'm having a difficult time loading the linux partition in grub. I'm going to do the best that I can to explain what I understand and what I don't. I'm currenty using 2.4.-18-bf2.4 kernel. I am also using a floppy to test this. I have NOT loaded this into the MBR. Instead, the Lilo is in the MBR. My partition consits of: hd0,0 /dev/hda1WindowsNTFS hd0,1 /dev/hda2bootext2 hd0,2. /dev/hda3Swap Swap hd0,3 /dev/hda4Linux root ext3 Now, I got the Windows part down but I cannot get the linux part. I'm going to add line numbers to make this easier to read. Here's what I have so far: 1 title Linux 2 # load the boot partition to Grub 3 root (hd0,1) 4 load the kernel 5 kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda4 ro 6 # this DOES NOT WORK 7 # kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.18-bf2.4 root=/dev/hda4 ro Line 3 loads the boot partition into GRUB's root partition. In the boot partition there is NO kernel vmlinuz. There is ONLY vmlinuz-2.4.18-bf2.4. For ex: bash$ ls -l /boot | grep 'vmlinuz' -rw-r--r-- 1 rootroot not important vmlinuz-2.4.18-bf2.4 File vmlinuz exists at the Linux root partition. I did NOT load hd0,3 into Grub's root. bash$ ls -l / | grep 'vmlinuz' lrwxrwxrwx 1 rootroot not important vmlinuz-/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-bf2.4 If vmlinuz doesn't exist in the boot partition, why does that work? When I run this, it actually is executed but runs the WRONG kernel. I cannot start X because kernel 2.4.-18-3 is running instead of 2.4.18-bf2.4. When I edit line 5 to line 7, Grub states that the file cannot be found. Can someone please help me? bp -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spamassassin razor
If you let fetchmail process incoming mail via smtp and put |usr/bin/procmail in your ~/.forward file (or specify procmail as your MDA in .fetchmailrc) fetchmail will use procmail. Bob On Sat, Nov 30, 2002 at 03:51:37AM +0100, chainy wrote: I see this two packages are made for procmail, are there any others for fetchmail directly? Or am I asking a very stupid question? Thanks a lot. Chainy. On Friday 29 November 2002 18:21, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 29 Nov 2002, Matthias Hentges wrote: Am Fre, 2002-11-29 um 09.13 schrieb Nicolas SABOURET: Hi, I installed spamassassin and I use it locally (with a user's .forward and a .procmailrc, as told in the README file). I also installed razor. How can I make sure whether it is used by spamassassin or not ? 1/3 spam messages still go through spamassassin. man razor tells to use a procmail rule but /etc/spamassassin/20_body_tests.cf seems to call razor automagically. Am I wrong ? No need for a procmail rule since SA indeed uses razor if it is installed. -- Matthias Hentges [www.hentges.net] - PGP + HTML are welcome ICQ: 97 26 97 4 - No files, no URLs It slows things down a lot however. I now use the L switch with spamassassin to do local checking only. This is very much faster and doesn't result in many spam messages getting through; I can live with deleting the few that do. AC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdrecorder and IDE burners
I'm running the Debian 2.4.19-686 kernel, which does include the ide-scsi.o module (CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDESCSI=m). Put ide-scsi in /etc/modules and you should have no problems. On Sat, Nov 30, 2002 at 10:35:14AM +0800, Tim Wood wrote: I just acquired a Lite-On burner, IDE UDMA/33. I installed cdrecorder but the man page says it will only work with a SCSI drive. The kernel must be built to simulate this. According to the 2.4.19 kernel docs, this feature is not built into the deb. I have not actually tried it, as the bundled software runs underWindoze, and is highly recommended. Is this information correct? Tim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netgear FA311 Network card
If you run a 2.4 kernel, use netsemi.o, otherwise there is source for fa31x on the disk which comes with the FA311. I recall that it took a bit of experimentation to get a useable fa31x.o module. Bob On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 03:33:45PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody, I am trying to have my NIC Netgear FA311 installed. I went to the Netgear site and they say I should insert RTL8139.o, which I tried with modconf, but it doesn't work. I have tried pretty much every driver supply in the NEt section of modconf, without result. Any idea? Thanks a lot, Fabien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netgear FA311 Network card
Sorry for the typo, that should have been natsemi.o. On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 09:22:31AM -0800, Bob Nielsen wrote: If you run a 2.4 kernel, use netsemi.o, otherwise there is source for fa31x on the disk which comes with the FA311. I recall that it took a bit of experimentation to get a useable fa31x.o module. Bob On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 03:33:45PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody, I am trying to have my NIC Netgear FA311 installed. I went to the Netgear site and they say I should insert RTL8139.o, which I tried with modconf, but it doesn't work. I have tried pretty much every driver supply in the NEt section of modconf, without result. Any idea? Thanks a lot, Fabien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: samba question *Solved*
Actually you probably only needed to remove the rc2.d link, as that is the one which Debian uses by default. It might be better to leave one of the symlinks in place (under a runlevel that you don't use). That way, if you upgrade samba in the future the symlinks will not be reinstalled. Bob On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 10:10:35PM -0800, Michelle Storm wrote: being a lazy sys admin i like rcconf install it using : apt-get install rcconf run it and just choose what you wish to run and what not . Moti Thanks, worked wonderfully. Glad I did it this way. The other way would have been a pain.. (if I'm reading this correctly, there were 7 spots to modify to stop samba from auto-loading) update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/samba exists during rc.d purge (continuing) Removing any system startup links for /etc/init.d/samba ... /etc/rc0.d/K19samba /etc/rc1.d/K19samba /etc/rc2.d/S20samba /etc/rc3.d/S20samba /etc/rc4.d/S20samba /etc/rc5.d/S20samba /etc/rc6.d/K19samba Thanks to all that replied. -- Michelle Alexia Jade Storm Dragon Impersonating a Human and failing. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I add CD's to dselect package list?
man apt-cdrom On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 09:17:37AM -0500, Wathen, Metherion wrote: Hi all, I need to know how to add CD's with programs and dependencies I downloaded from Debian.org to the list searched by dselect. Thanks in advance, mw. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: psaux.o not compiled as a module?!
That's the only mouse module I had loaded so I figured it must be the one, but you're correct. Removing it does not affect my mouse operation. I guess that when I installed, something was sensed that triggered that module to be included. Digging a bit further, PS/2 mouse support IS built into the Debian kernel-image-2.4.19-686 kernel and is included in the pc_keyb.c driver. Sorry for the confusion. Bob On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 10:18:31PM +0100, Ralf G. R. Bergs wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 08:55:59 -0800, Bob Nielsen wrote: It shows up here as /lib/modules/2.4.19-686/kernel/drivers/input/mousedev.o This is a different file, namely to support mice driven via the input device (read USB mice.) -- L I N U X .~. The Choice /V\ of a GNU /( )\ Generation ^^-^^ -- Bob Nielsen, N7XY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bainbridge Island, WA IOTA NA-065, USI WA-028S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: psaux.o not compiled as a module?!
Perhaps mousedev.o is what you are looking for. This is what 2.4.19 uses for a ps/2 mouse driver. On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 06:55:18PM +0100, Ralf G. R. Bergs wrote: Hi there, all of a sudden I've got a strange problem. I'm trying to compile 2.4.20-rc2 with XFS, where psaux should be compiled as a module: CONFIG_MOUSE=m CONFIG_PSMOUSE=y However the psaux.o module is not created?! This NEVER used to be a problem... Does anyone know what could be going wrong? I wasn't able to find anything on Google... Thanks, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Version To Use? (2)
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 10:28:26AM -0800, John Floren wrote: So, I should just use the new release? Remember, my computer is really slow, I could only download with a 56K modem, and I can't download directly to the intended computer. Also, exactly how large is the current release? I don't want to spend _too_ long downloading it :-) Thanks, From a Debian newbie If the computer doesn't have a network connection, I suspect that you would be better off purchasing CDs. The full set for Debian 3.0 is 7 CDs, which is probably something 3 GB. You probably don't need them all, but it would be hard to determine which ones you really need in advance. Even downloading to another computer and burning a few CDs would be a real pain with a 56K modem. If the target computer is networked, it is pretty simple to install the base files and use apt-get or dselect to add whatever additional packages you need. Version 2.2 is slightly smaller, but not enough to justify its installation, IMHO. Linux Central has the 3.0 CD set for $14.95, which to me beats downloading several gigabytes over a modem connection. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CorelPHOTOPAINT9
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 12:27:57AM +0100, mess-mate wrote: Hi debian-users, is there any site to find the *.deb package of corelphotopaint9 ? Is there anyone who's install it without pbs ? Thanks for your info mess-mate http://linux.corel.com/products/pp9/download_instructions.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt and dist-upgrade
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 05:29:46AM +, Doug MacFarlane wrote: I just installed a system using the 4 floppies for a compact install (rescue, root image, and 2 drivers) and did the rest of the install via the net. Very nice. So, I now have a running woody that I want to upgrade to testing. I did an apt-get -s dist-upgrade, and it then said that gozer:/home/madmac# apt-get -s dist-upgrade Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Calculating Upgrade... Done 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. so it wasn't going to do anything . . . so here's my sourceslist: gozer:/home/madmac# cat /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free gozer:/home/madmac# and it's still set to stable . . . . (woody) I thought apt-get dist-upgrade would take you from woody to sarge, or sarge to sid, and so on?? I'm obviously missing something here . . . . It will, but you need to replace the instances of stable in sources.list with testing or sarge, then run apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Moving away from KDE to what?
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 11:01:16PM -0800, nate wrote: Sandip P Deshmukh said: my question - why doesnt debian turn dma on by default? dont we like fast machines? safety. Theres a lot of systems out there that do not support DMA or the driver is not mature enough. My mom's CTX laptop for example will lock up hard if DMA is turned on. I stopped using the IDE on VIA chipsets more then 2 years ago because of DMA problems(I now use Promise ATA/100 PCI cards instead). I think its a good idea to ship with it disabled though it would be nice if it was easier to turn on for the newbies. one small question - how do i know which kernel version am i using? i could not find anything that looks like kernel and has a version number of 2.4.19 in dselect the version you are running *now* can be determined from: uname -a (or more specifically uname -r) thanx a ton. does a discussion like this better suited in installation manuals of debian? not sure, I've never really used hdparm myself, I compile my own kernels and enable DMA in the kernels themselves(2.2.19) if I need them. Haven't played much with 2.4.x kernels yet. nate The more recent VIA chipsets appear to handle DMA without these problems, but I had a similar situation a few years back. At the time I thought it was the Western Digital drive, but that is now is working fine with DMA enabled on a newer motherboard with a VIA vt82c686b UDMA 100 controller. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Compiling RedHat network driver
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 10:42:30AM +1000, mdevin wrote: One further thing: Obviously you don't need this kernel-headers-2.4.18 package to compile a 2.4.18 kernel because I didn't have it and my kernel compiled OK without it. I compiled heaps of things as modules too. That confuses me? Why? This is because the kernel source includes the headers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie, what flavour for my old hardware?
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 12:50:10PM +0100, James Finch wrote: secondhand Apricot SL550, 75MHz Pentium, 0.84GB hard drive. 32 MB ram what version of debian should be used? am completely ignorant Any Debian version should work with that hardware. The only limitation would be how many packages you can install before you fill up the hard drive (you should have a reasonably-sized swap partition, 64 MB or larger). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wish us all luck...
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 06:02:23AM -0500, Mark L. Kahnt wrote: XFree86 4.2 has moved to testing - should be okay, but this is where we find out... So far it looks pretty good to me. One of my systems has an ASUS motherboard with the SiS 630 chipset and 4.1 really didn't like it. 4.2 is fine, except that it doesn't appear to support glx with that chip. On another system with a Trident CyberBlade chip, it doesn't appear to have any problems. I haven't yet given 4.2 a real workout on either system. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Microsoft's plans to kill open source: TCPA
On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 07:52:39PM +1100, Russell wrote: Alan Chandler wrote: ... If we then have a situation where Windows software has all these controls built in to it - with keys being controlled back at Redmond, and Linux with the keys being controlled by the owner of the PC (I am assuming the open source community will still use the facilities provided by the hardware - but will ensure that the software installer has the control) - then won't this just provide greater commercial pressure for people to switch to open source than now? If intel or anyone else puts the DRM controls in their chips, it'll sure be a big incentive to buy some chinese or russian clones without DRM. M$ relies on x86 hardware. Linux can be ported to anything. Someone like Sun or some other hardware maker should mass produce non x86 PCs. That'll jettison M$ *and* intel from everyones worries. Hopefully AMD will make non-TCPA x86 chips rather than caving-in to the M$/Intel collusion. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Woody kernel 2.4.18 ready for NAT? Can't make it work
It sounds like you do not have the ipmasq package installed. On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 08:09:19PM +0100, lacostej wrote: Hi, We are having trouble to set up NAT on a server to act as gateway to a private home network. I've done so on other machines, but each time compiled my own kernel. This time we tried to use Debian's. I.e. kernel-image-2.4.18-586tsc as distributed in woody 3.0 images. The machine connects correctly to the web, but NAT doesn't work. We've found this comment on the following page: http://www.aboutdebian.com/proxy.htm. You can check to see if your kernel is set up for masquerading by issuing the command: ls /proc/net/ip_masq On our installation, this displays nothing. We checked the kernel config as found in the package referenced on page: http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/kernel-image-2.4.18-586tsc.html and it seems that the kernel was compiled with everything necessary for NAT. Did we get something wrong? Is the comment stating to check /proc/net/ip_masq still valid regarding kernel 2.4.x? Do we have to compile our own kernel, or is there something we can do to correct the state. Cheers, Jerome -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Bob Nielsen, N7XY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bainbridge Island, WA IOTA NA-065, USI WA-028S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian GNU/LInux 3.0 - Win4Lin 4.0
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 08:56:58PM -0800, nate wrote: fritz said: Hello world, using Debian GNU/Linux 3.0, which works great, we have to use one business-application which is only available as Windows-programm. Trying wine and Cross-Over , both programms are unable to run our application, we are now testing Win4Lin 4.0. Unfortunately netraverse does not support Debian distributions. Therefor I am unable to install Win4Lin 4.0. you can try VMWare too. it works wonderfully under debian 2.1, 2.2 and 3.0. I don't think it is officially supported but I have never had a single issue with it. Vmware also gives many other nice benefits such as being able to undo the virtual machine, or rollback the virtual machine(sort of like snapshotting). and its the most stable app I've ever used.. i have never tried win4lin but have been using vmware since it first came out a bit over 2 years ago? maybe almost 3 now .. I've used both. VMware ran pathetically slow on a K6-350 with 128 MB, while Win4Lin was at least as fast as running it natively. However, not all apps run with Win4Lin and I didn't find anything I couldn't use with VMware. I'm sure with a faster machine (and a lot of memory, which is dirt-cheap right now) VMware would be satisfactory. Netraverse doesn't officially support Debian, but has some unofficial .deb files on their web site (you need to register to access them). You will also need to patch the kernel source and recompile. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel compilation
To upgrade your kernel, you can probably just use one of the packaged kernel-image versions. Type 'apt-cache search kernel-image'. Pick the latest 2.4 version which matches your type of processor and install it with apt-get. You may have to edit either /etc/lilo.conf or /boot/grub/menu.lst, depending on which boot loader you are using and whether you have it configured to automatically update your boot menu when a new kernel is installed. The Debian kernel packages use initrd, so you may need to configure your boot loader for that, as well. As an example, my /boot/grub/menu.lst shows the following: title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.19-686 root(hd0,1) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19-686 root=/dev/hda2 ro vga=5 initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.4.19-686 savedefault boot On the other hand, if you need/want to compile a new kernel, install the kernel-package and the appropriate kernel-source packages. Read /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz and you will learn everything you need to know about compiling and creating a Debian kernel package. Also take a look at 'man kernel-img.conf' and 'man kernel-pkg.conf', which are installed as part of kernel-package. On Mon, Dec 30, 2002 at 01:24:15PM -0600, cobb wrote: I have not been able to find a document specific to Debian on upgrading the kernel. I am running 2.2.20, but would like to use a 2.4 or better kernel. Can anyone explain it, or point me to a document SPECIFIC to Debian? I keep finding Redhat-specific information. - Jimmy ps: hi, I'm new to the list. ;D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ghostscript Problem
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/n022003l.pfb is contained in the gsfonts-x11 package, but it is actually a symbolic link to /usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts/n022003l.pfb, which is part of the gsfonts package. On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 03:02:43PM -0700, Dean Allen Provins wrote: Mike: I'm using the Debian install of ghostscript (6.53) and the matching ghostview install, so this may not answer your query, but nevertheless On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 02:53:38PM -0700, Mike Fontenot wrote: I'm hoping someone can tell me how Ghostscript (specifically, gs-aladdin 7.04 (testing)) is supposed to know where the ghostscript fonts are located (i.e., the pathname to the directory where they reside). Is there an environment variable that is supposed to be set to that directory? The fonts appear to be under /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ on my Deb 3 system. Also, can someone who has a testing system tell me where the font file n022003l.pfb is located? I.e., what do you get when you do a find . -name n022003l.pfb -print? (Note: the final character before the suffix is a lowercase L, not a numeral 1). find found them at /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/n022003l.pfb. (On my system, the above font file is located under /usr/lib/ghostscript/fonts, and also under /usr/lib/grace/fonts/type1. Also under the above [...]/ghostscript/fonts directory, there is a file Fontmap, which is a link to /etc/gs.Fontmap. There is also a Fontmap file under /usr/share/gs-aladdin/7.04, but there are no *.pfb files there.) Any help much appreciated. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ipmasq and ftp
On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 01:40:04AM +0100, Benedict Verheyen wrote: I notice that Gibraltar contains shorewall, so I may try that. I'm also going to look at fiaif. Only problem i still have is that when i log on to the system say on ttys1 for instance, that i get log messages of unauthorized access. The shorewall faq said this on it: 16. Shorewall is writing log messages all over my console making it unusable! Answer: man dmesg -- add a suitable 'dmesg' command to your startup scripts or place it in /etc/shorewall/start. Under RedHat, the max log level that is sent to the console is specified in /etc/sysconfig/init in the LOGLEVEL variable. But i don't know how to do this. I think adding dmesg -n 1 to the /etc/init.d/shorewall script would solve that but i'm not sure. That should work. I use it on all my computers and it helps keep the console clutter down. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lm-sensors and lm78 chip
Note that you also get the following: Probing for `ITE IT8705F / IT8712F / SiS 950' Trying address 0x0290... Success! (confidence 7, driver `it87') You might try 'modprobe it87'. That one works for me, although I used i2c-source and lm-sensors-source to compile modules instead of just what the kernel contains (I also had problems getting lm-sensors to work and kept trying different things until I found something that worked for me). On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 10:14:51PM -0500, Andrew Perrin wrote: Greetings- I'm trying to get lm-sensors to work, mainly to monitor the CPU temperature in my machine. I know the chip is an lm78, as reported by the following output from sensors-detect: Probing for `National Semiconductor LM78' Trying address 0x0290... Success! (confidence 7, driver `lm78') Probing for `National Semiconductor LM78-J' Trying address 0x0290... Failed! Probing for `National Semiconductor LM79' Trying address 0x0290... Failed! Probing for `Winbond W83781D' Trying address 0x0290... Failed! Probing for `Winbond W83782D' Trying address 0x0290... Failed! Probing for `Winbond W83627HF' Trying address 0x0290... Failed! Probing for `Winbond W83697HF' Trying address 0x0290... Failed! Probing for `Silicon Integrated Systems SIS5595' Trying general detect... Failed! Probing for `VIA Technologies VT 82C686 Integrated Sensors' Trying general detect... Failed! Probing for `ITE IT8705F / IT8712F / SiS 950' Trying address 0x0290... Success! (confidence 7, driver `it87') But trying to load the modules turns out to be impossible: joehill:~# modprobe i2c-isa modprobe: Can't locate module i2c-isa joehill:~# modprobe lm78 modprobe: Can't locate module lm78 And sensors doesn't see anything: joehill:~# sensors No sensors found! How do I get this working? I did select I2C support in the kernel (as modules), and have them loaded: joehill:~# lsmod Module Size Used byTainted: P i2c-dev 3744 0 (unused) i2c-proc6368 0 i2c-core 12992 0 [i2c-dev i2c-proc] sd_mod 9980 0 (autoclean) lp 6464 0 (unused) cpuid 1184 0 (unused) ac97_codec 9696 0 (unused) vfat9500 0 fat29752 0 [vfat] smbfs 32672 0 (unused) nls_cp437 4384 0 (unused) openafs 406656 2 sg 24036 0 (unused) usb-uhci 0 0 (deleted) usbcore49632 1 [usb-uhci] parport_pc 15268 1 parport23328 1 [lp parport_pc] cdrom 28960 0 (unused) sym53c8xx 56548 0 scsi_mod 80584 4 [sd_mod sg sym53c8xx] NVdriver 945056 10 Thanks. -- Andrew J Perrin - http://www.unc.edu/~aperrin Assistant Professor of Sociology, U of North Carolina, Chapel Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] * andrew_perrin (at) unc.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ipmasq and ftp
On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 09:08:43PM +0100, Benedict Verheyen wrote: Hi, yesterday i installed woody 3.0 (testing/unstable) on my server. I then installed ipmasq so it's able to share the cable connection. For the moment all works well except for ftp: i get this error in my ftp program: Error opening data socket Does anybody know what rule (for a .rul file) i can add to make sure i'm able to open an ftp connection via my server? I had this problem with a 2.4 kernel and iptables. Normal FTP uses a separate connection for data, although if you use passive mode, it will work over the main connection. If I use a 2.2 kernel with ipchains, the ip_masq_ftp module, which takes care of the data connection, will be installed and there are no problems. I find the documentation on setting up iptables to be somewhat confusing, but I figure I just haven't spent enough time on it yet. I have a different problem now however. I configured port forwarding, but if a client outside my lan tries to ftp from my server, it only works if passive mode is NOT used. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: real audio streaming
On Sun, Oct 27, 2002 at 03:42:12AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sun, Oct 27, 2002 at 02:29:14AM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: Sorry for not being clear: I want to be the client side of the stream... download the ra player for it its *.rpm tho apt-get install realplayer It'll tell you where to get it from and will mangle the RPM properly for a debian system. I noticed the installer apparently no longer exists in testing (it shows up in dselect as Obsolete/local). Perhaps alien will work with the RPM (although I haven't tried it). I kept having problems with realplayer and netscape, but it is working fine for me with mozilla. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install one from testing
On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 01:10:49AM +1100, Russell wrote: Hi all, I want to try out this color picker that looks much better than xcolors and xcolorsel: http://gcolor.sourceforge.net However, it's not debianized, so i thought of using checkinstall: http://packages.debian.org/testing/admin/checkinstall.html But checkinstall is in testing. How can i apt-get it without having to set up all that pinning stuff? (i'm only set up for stable). 1. You can check the depends and add whatever you don't have (downloading and using dpkg -i. 2. You can put the following in /etc/apt/sources.list and use 'apt-get update ; apt-get build-dep checkinstall ; apt-get -b source checkinstall': deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free (replacing the host with your favorite mirror). Then install the resulting package with dpkg -i. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which anti-spam tool?
On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 01:49:08PM +0200, Robert Ian Smit wrote: [Thanks to everyone who replied to my initial question] * Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [25-10-2002 08:09]: I like Spamassassin, myself. I use unstable, though, and don't really follow stable to know how old it is. It seems to work quite well, especially when integrated into exim as a filter. I am running stable and getting spamassassin from testing or unstable requires a considerable upgrade of other packages. I will use Spamassassin from stable at least for now. I'm running testing, but build spamassassin and spamc with the unstable version of spamassassin sources. (apt-get -b source spamassassin). There is so much information out there that I hope I have done the right thing. I run spamd/spamc with OPTIONS=-F 0 in /etc/default/spamd.conf. I have changed /etc/exim.conf to have a Spamassassin stanza in the Transports configuration and the Directors configuration. Mostly a cutpaste from : http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/config_docs/exim3_spamassassin.html As far as I can tell everything works: all messages now have extra headers and in case of spam a report gets added to the top of the message. I have some further questions. Is this setup reasonably sane? I am not sure I understand the security implication of using spamd. Ofcourse at the moment all messages still arrive at their usual destination. I want to move all spam to a seperate folder and have the ability to have future mail from certain destinations not be tagged as spam. Is using procmail recipes a flexible and easy way of doing this? Yes. You can whitelist specific destinations in ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs. I will look around for procmail information, but pointers to relevant information would be appreciated. See /usr/share/doc/spamassassin/examples/procmailrc.example. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Knoppix: Was: The *ONLY* real problem with Debian...
Read it again. Swap FILE on a MS-DOS partition. No partitioning involved. On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 08:52:04PM -0700, Shawn Lamson wrote: thanks for the reply - didnt mean for you to have to go to all of that trouble :) I will definitely look at the website before I try it anyway. I have several friends who are eager to try Linux until the word partitition comes up. There is even one guy at work who is looking into some swappable IDE/HD bay so that he can just install Linux on one disk and swap it in to try it! I guess Knoppix isnt the panacea, b/c to get these guys interested in Linux they are going to want a Desktop like KDE, but to run KDE I assume it is going to take a lot of RAM etc, meaning most likely it will require SWAP space, meaning partitioning... oh well! Shawn --- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Lamson wrote: --- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But in the case of low RAM, if a Linux partition is not available, Knoppix uses the Windows partition and creates a swap file (not a swap partition). Kent Does it use freespace on the drive, or will it destroy data from the windows partition? Shawn From the Knoppix web site at http://www.knoppix.com: /Begin quote Question: But my computer doesn't have that much RAM, so some programs on the CD won't run at all or will only run very slowly. Is there some trick that I can use to run KDE and the office programs/graphics/games? Yes. After a /swap/ partition has been initialized, Linux can add the missing RAM from an area of the hard disk that has been reserved for this purpose. KNOPPIX recognizes and automatically uses any available /swap/ partitions. Optionally, a swap partition can be added manually. However, only experienced users should try this, since repartitioning of the hard drive is required. Version 1.5 and later of KNOPPIX can use an existing DOS partition for its Linux swap data (command mkdosswapfile or in the KDE menus under Knoppix). This also allows one to work with less RAM. The swap data knoppix.swp on this partition can be erased later to free up space for other things. /End of Quote The mkdosswapfile script can be seen at: http://zork.net/pipermail/lnx-bbc/2001-August.txt (search for message1 and then scroll down a quarter of a page to the English) but here's enough snippet to probably answer your question: MESSAGE1=3DDo you want to create a swapfile 'knoppix.swp' on your existing= DOS partition $p? A swapfile allows you to use huge application packages l= ike KDE even if your computer is low on memory. You can safely delete the s= wapfile after finishing your KNOPPIX session. MESSAGE2=3DPlease specify the amount of diskspace that you want to use as = SWAP. Recommended: 60 - 128. Free: MESSAGE3=3DCreating swapfile 'knoppix.swp' on $p... ERROR1=3DSorry, not enough free space on $p. At least 60 MB required. SUCCESS=3DSwapfile 'knoppix.swp' on $p successfully created. = Shawn Lamson Debian Gnu\Linux Sid Kernel 2.4.19-custom XFree86 Version 4.2.1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrade kernel from 2.2 to 2.4
On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 12:29:02PM +0330, Arash Bijanzadeh wrote: I got to upgrade my kernel from 2.2 to 2.4 It is ok but because 2.4 using initrd.img so there is some problems init proccess. I tgives some errors about ReadOnly file system and also couldn't find mtab. Anybody have information about this matter? You need to configure lilo or grub to handle the initrd. 2.4 kernels don't use mtab, so you can ignore that message. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two Debian 3.0 reviews at Slashdot
On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 01:57:19AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 07:57:25PM -0400, Justin F. Knotzke wrote: I used RedHat a few years ago for about a month and rpm gave me such a headache that I bolted back to Debian. Heck, when I was a regular Red Hat user, we ended up moving the machines over to Debian because it was simply easier to deal with .debs. This was back when bo was current and before apt was standard. Me, too. Of course in those days Red Hat made it easy to switch, since after trying to update you usually had to wipe out the disk and install from scratch anyway. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: muttprint problem: base.def missing
I can't really help except to say that I have the exact same version of those packages and also do not have any auto.def file, but muttprint works for me without any problems. On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 04:16:45PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: i am trying to print with muttprint, but it failes with an error Latex didn't work in /usr/bin/muttprint:570. i have tracked the error down to a lacking file that latex needs when muttprint invokes it: [...] (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/inputenc.sty ! LaTeX Error: File `auto.def' not found. Type X to quit or RETURN to proceed, or enter new name. (Default extension: def) Enter file name: This file, auto.def, indeed doesn't exist on the system, and neither can I find it in the package database of sarge. Would anyone be able to help me? ii muttprint 0.63a-3 Pretty printing of mails ii perl5.6.1-7 Larry Wall's Practical E ii psutils 1.17-15 A collection of PostScri ii tetex-extra 1.0.2+20011202-3 extra teTeX library file -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: configuring CMI8738 sound card
Have you tried 'modprobe cmpci'? It works fine on my motherboard with the CMI8738 chip onboard. If this works, add cmpci to /etc/modules. Bob On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 01:40:59PM +0100, Pavel Bradut Boghita wrote: Hello everybody, I have been looking for documentation on how to set up the driver module for the C-Media CMI8738 sound card I have on one of the machines here. Including the module when I've installed Debian Woody, didn't work. I wasn't able to find a guide for doing this installation properly on this machine, the Cmedia site has guides for almost every other distribution but not Debian. Could someone please suggest some instructions for properly installing the module driver? Thanks Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passive mode with wu-ftpd
I am running a wu-ftpd server on a machine inside my NAT router/firewall, which uses ipmasq and ipchains. I have port 21 forwarded from the firewall to the ftp server with ipmasqadm. Retrieving files without using passive mode works fine from either inside or outside the firewall. From another host on my LAN, passive mode also works. However, from outside the lan using passive mode, the connection freezes after the server sends the following: 227 Entering Passive Mode (192,168,2,2,68,60) I don't know if it is relevant, but found the following in /usr/share/doc/wu-ftpd/wu-ftpd-faq.txt.gz: 14. Normal ftp clients work, Netscape ftp's fail. So, passive mode doesn't work. Apparantly ftpd needs write permission on ~ftp/dev/tcp in order to operate correctly in passive mode (Solaris). Set it to the same mode as permissions shown by ls -lL /dev/tcp, being 666. Also read the Solaris man page for ftpd for Solaris-specific information. Changed from previous versions Fix: cd ~ftp/dev chmod 666 tcp Is there an equivalent fix for Debian Linux, which doesn't have ~ftp/dev/tcp? Or is this is a firewall configuration problem, in which case what changes do I need to make there? The fact that the server is sending its 192.168.2.2 address makes me suspicious, since that is not routable. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla 1.1 plugin failure
On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 02:38:47PM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: Colin Watson wrote: On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 12:27:27PM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/local/mozilla/plugins/java2/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so [libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory] This comes up quite often - install libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1. Cheers, OK, I managed that OK. Should this be a recommended package for mozilla? Is it? $ apt-cache show mozilla-browser | grep Depends Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.4-4), libglib1.2 (= 1.2.0), libgtk1.2 (= 1.2.10-4), libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 (= 1:2.95.4-0.010810), xlibs ( 4.1.0), zlib1g (= 1:1.1.4), libnspr4 (= 2:1.0.0-0.woody.1), debconf (= 1), psmisc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Compiling a kernel for another machine
On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 04:07:04PM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote: I've got an Athlon XP 2000 system running as my desktop machine. I've also got a PIII 850 laptop and a p133 mail server. While recompiling the kernel on the laptop isn't too time consuming it still takes almost twice as long as it does on my desktop. And don't even get me started about the p133... :) Using the Debian Way of rolling a kernel, can I use my desktop to compile the kernel for the other machines? Are there any special flags, or is there any special optimization that is done at compile time that I might lose if I compile on a machine other than the one the kernel is going to be run on? Eventually, I'd like to do all of my compilation on my desktop, but for now I'd be content with just the kernel. Though if anyone has any general tips on the subject, they'd be very much appreciated. I take it you've never compiled a kernel on a 386 (type 'make', come back the next morning to see if it succeeded)! Actually, this is (IMHO) one of the biggest pluses for the Debian method of kernel compilation/packaging. Compile on the desktop using make-kpkg and transfer the file over to the other computer(s). You can choose 386 and have the kernel not be CPU-dependent but I believe it is also possible (although I haven't tried it) to compile an optimized kernel on a machine with a different series of CPU (within the i386 family). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Linux Compatability
On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 11:50:19PM +0900, Nick Hastings wrote: Howdy, * Marcus Bendall [EMAIL PROTECTED] [021014 16:11]: I am considering using Debian Linux, but I have one question. Can you install Debian onto a computer running Windows 98, and keep 98 as the main OS so that it automatically runs on startup, and then run Debian if I want from Windows? As other posters have stated, you can install and run either. More specifically you can _boot_ to either. You can not run Debian _from_ Windows. You might be able to use loadlin to boot Debian from Windows. Several years ago I set up a simple script with a Linux icon on my Windows 95 desktop which booted Linux with a couple of clicks. You can't just return to Windows on exiting Linux, but will have to reboot. I don't know if loadlin is compatible with XP, however. This is a very important distinction. You have to shutdown Windows and then boot to Debian. However it is possible to run Windows from Debian. To do this you need to use some sort of virtual machine like VMware, but I guess this is going a little bit further than what you want. I've used both VMware and Win4Lin. They are fine for casual Windows use (Win4Lin is faster, but won't run some applications). Wine is getting better all the time, but probably won't meet your needs yet. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ADSL, routers firewalls etc.
Since you have a static IP, you probably have a bridged setup (by far the easiest method). If you get a modem with routing and firewall included, that will take the place of your firewall machine. In addition to what has been mentioned, you need to check with your telephone provider (as well as your ISP) to make sure that you get a modem which is compatible with the technology they use. There are differences. On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 09:43:55PM +0800, Crispin Wellington wrote: On Mon, 2002-10-14 at 21:29, Tom wrote: I have already purchased a Hub for the network which consists of a Debian MySql and Apache server, another Debian firewall box and some Win boxes. My confusion lies in both terminology and setup. I imagined before starting that I would need to set up a firewall machine with 2 network devices. The firewall would then manage security and masquerading, where the external eth device will be allocated the static IP (Non-NAT) I have been given by my ISP. However research of the most common Ethernet DSL modems (cheapest about $100 / £ 66) suggests that 1) the modem has NAT, firewall etc all built in. 2) many manufacturers combine a network hub and modem. 3) the modem itself must be assigned an IP not the machine it is fixed to I'm assuming therefore that the firewall machine is not required. I had previously thought that a gateway machine such as a firewall was necessary for me to be able to SSH to do remote admin. Also I have already purchased a hub and the firewall machine (old box knocking around) therefore I was hoping to just get a modem. I do not have USB. Any comments welcome, and thanks in advance for reading this far! It all depends on how your ISP configures your DSL. There are two ways that ADSL ethernet modems operate. One is PPPoE (PPP over Ethernet) and the other is Bridged. I always have a gateway with two Network cards. One will attach to the DSL modem via cat5, the other connects to your inside network (your hub/switch). This requires buying a DSL modem and a switch/hub (which you already have). If your ISP uses bridged mode then you'll assign the external ethernet cad your allocated IP address/netmask/gateway etc. If your ISP uses PPPoE (by far the most common) then you wont configure the external network card at all, and you will run a pppoe connection that will be assigned your IP etc via a PPP connection over the ethernet card. In both cases the modem is not assigned an IP. In PPPoE, neither is the Ethernet card. If the modem were assigned an IP (or two, one for each interface) it would be called a router (you can get DSL routers). Kind Regards Crispin Wellington -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Routing doesn't start automatically
I'm not that well versed on calculating netmasks and broadcast address, but these look a bit strange. You might try the standard settings: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.14 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.0.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 gateway 192.168.0.3 On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 02:48:49PM -0400, Andrew Perrin wrote: Greetings- In setting up my new machine, I've run into an odd problem. When the machine boots, the routing table doesn't get restored correctly. I have to type the following: route add 192.168.0.3 eth0 route add default gw 192.168.0.3 in order to use any networking. Here's my /etc/network/interfaces: # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8) # The loopback interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The first network card - this entry was created during the Debian installation # (network, broadcast and gateway are optional) auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.14 netmask 255.255.255.252 network 192.168.0.12 broadcast 192.168.0.15 gateway 192.168.0.3 Any ideas? -- Andrew J Perrin - http://www.unc.edu/~aperrin Assistant Professor of Sociology, U of North Carolina, Chapel Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] * andrew_perrin (at) unc.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Routing doesn't start automatically
On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 11:45:00AM -1000, Joseph Dane wrote: Bob Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not that well versed on calculating netmasks and broadcast address, but these look a bit strange. You might try the standard settings: a netmask of 255.255.255.0 could only be consider standard in a LAN environment. the mask in the original message (255.255.255.252) is typical of a DSL environment. it allows 4 addresses on the local network: the user's computer, the router, the broadcast address, and a network address (which is never actually used, AFAIK). Since he is using private network addresses, it shouldn't matter if a /24 netmask is used. With an ISP-assigned block of addresses, it is a different matter, of course. In any case, the netmask shown does not include the gateway which was defined, which is why he had to define it separately. The network and broadcast addresses aren't really required in the interfaces file (the network address IS required for 2.0.x kernels, according to the interfaces man page.) I just checked on my machine. I've got a file called /etc/init.d/network which brings up the interfaces and updates the route tables. it says: # In new Debian installations, this file is deprecated in favour of # the ifup/ifdown commands (invoked from /etc/init.d/networking), which # can be configured from the file /etc/network/interfaces. so I guess I'm using an out-of-date method. As I recall this changed in woody, possibly before (I started running woody right after slink was released and don't recall exactly when it changed, but it has been a while.) The old method should still work. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Routing doesn't start automatically
On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 05:58:46PM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote: # In new Debian installations, this file is deprecated in favour of # the ifup/ifdown commands (invoked from /etc/init.d/networking), which # can be configured from the file /etc/network/interfaces. so I guess I'm using an out-of-date method. As I recall this changed in woody, possibly before (I started running woody right after slink was released and don't recall exactly when it changed, but it has been a while.) The old method should still work. Make that potato, not slink. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rebuilding the Kernel Mini HOW TO
On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 11:08:46AM +1000, Russell wrote: Michael Olds wrote: Thank you, I am still in a fog in terms of simple things like symlinks. What you want is to end up with a link in the linux directory called kernel-source-2.4.18 that links to /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18. So how should that be said? [ ]1.d create a symbolic link to kernel-source-2.4.18 from /usr/src/linux $ ln -s /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18 /usr/src/linux No. I don't know if you even *need* the linux symlink. But if you do, the symlink is /usr/src/linux and it points to /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18. AFAIK, the symlink is mostly used when compiling source which looks for headers in /usr/src/linux/include. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Realtek 8029 NIC Problem !!
On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 02:37:24PM +0200, Cuno Sonnemans wrote: Bob Nielsen heeft geschreven: What kernel version are you running? It is included in all the 2.2 and 2.4 stock Debian kernels I have tried. I Use kernel 2.2.20, so how can I activate the ne2k-pci driver If you have installed the Debian kernel-image-2.2.20 package, the ne2k-pci.o driver included. Check /lib/modules/2.2.20/net to see if it is there. If so, add a line ne2k-pci to /etc/modules and it should be loaded at boot time. 'modprobe ne2k-pci' should also work. In any case, you should not get a message that the kernel cannot find the module. I just checked and the ne2k-pci module is also included in the idepci and compact installation kernels, so it should work with these also. I generally only use these kernels to install Debian and replace them with a kernel-image package after the system is installed (or in a few cases compile my own, but only if I need additional features). If you have compiled your own, check the config file to verify that you have indeed selected this module. Prior to the availability of the ne2k-pci driver, I used one with the ISA NE2000 driver. On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 02:45:14AM +0200, Cuno Sonnemans wrote: Birzan George Cristian heeft geschreven: First of all, no need to send the mail twice... Second, did you try ne2k-pci (modprobe ne2k-pci)? OK, I tried Result: Can't locate ne2k-pci module. I've read some where that the ne2k-pci module is standard in modern linux distributions, strange So how do i compile the module ??? I have the ne2k-pci source already !! Oeps, wrong adress sorry On Sun, 2002-10-13 at 03:01, Cuno Sonnemans wrote: I can't get my Realtek 8029 NIC to work with Debian 3.0, it works fine with WXP and Mandrake. The NIC is an PCI based ne2000 clone !! I/O Base : DC00 H IRQ: 10 The card is recognized on startup !!! How can I get it to work ??? Or do I need the driver, if so where can I find a linux driver for the Realtek 8029 PS. I tried modconf already no module there that will work. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: compiling and building software
On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 11:01:53PM -0400, Rodney Green wrote: Hello. I recently installed a base Debian system by using the rescue and root floppies and installing the rest from the Internet. Since I installed only the bare system I didn't have a compiler installed (at least I don't think I did) and couldn't build some stuff I downloaded. I want to build and install the latest version of Postfix but I'm getting a Make error message about missing something (see below). My question is.. What are the required libraries and packages needed to compile most software? I'm used to using Slackware and it installed most everything I needed. I'm new to Debian and I'm uncertain on what all I need. The make process is failing with this message: No db.h include file found. Install the appropriate db*-devel package first. Thanks! Rod I'm not familiar with compiling postfix, but if you set your sources.list to include source, you can run 'apt-get --build-dep postfix' and it will downloaded the needed dependencies. If you want to build a newer version than the Debian source, you might need some additional, but this should get you there in most cases. Adding -s to the above command will show you what apt-get wants to download without actually getting any files. You can then download the Debian source and create a package with 'apt-get -b source postfix'. You can set the source information to unstable or testing, even if you are running stable (or to unstable if you are running testing). I have often done this to get a newer version of a package than exists in my distribution. It doesn't always work, but I've had pretty good success. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Non-english characters in mutt (was: Locale and date/time settings)
Got it working, thanks. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Non-english characters in mutt (was: Locale and date/time settings)
Along this same line, is there a locale setting which would allow mutt to display non-English characters? Now they all show up as ?. Bob On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 03:37:46PM -0400, David P James wrote: Colin Watson was roused into action on 2002-10-07 12:01 and wrote: On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 11:06:31AM -0400, David P James wrote: I did this, and the right format is used, but unfortunately the '-'s were replaced by other characters. This is somewhat frustrating; for starters, why is the default date format on the 'internationalist' Debian OS the illogical US standard? There's nothing we can do about it: it's how the C locale is defined. And second, why is there no easy-to-use ISO format date? Right now I'm using the German standard, which is better than what I had, but still not what I want. There's en_DK, which despite being a joke invention (http://www.xfree86.org/pipermail/i18n/2001-April/001727.html) seems to produce what you want. Thank you Colin. Sorry if I sounded a bit terse earlier; I had just gone through the process of generating half a dozen or so different locales with none of them turning out to use the ISO format. I had begun to wonder what en_DK was though, as I could figure out most of the rest (I knew DK was Denmark but English_Denmark didn't seem to make any sense). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: knoppix
On Sat, Oct 05, 2002 at 10:36:57PM +0200, el wrote: does anybody here know of a downloadable, STABLE version of knoppix? i searched all resources i could think of. the knoppix-forum (http://www.linuxtag.org/forum/) is not reachable. all i found were beta-versions, switching from ? 05/02 = vers. 2.1b to 08/02 = vers. 3.1b 10/02 = for my rescue tasks i could really need a stable version, if available ... See the links at http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/ for the released version of 3.1. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ghostscript 7.04...
On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 05:17:36PM -0600, Mike Fontenot wrote: Bob Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try gs-aladdin instead of ghostscript. It has a more-restrictive license and is in non-free (the older versions are GPL'd and exist in main). I don't know about woody, but sarge has 7.04. It actually WAS gs-aladdin that I installed on my potato system from woody, and it still has problems with the equations in my groff file. It sounds like gs-aladdin on sarge is exactly what I need. But can I install that on my potato system, and if so, how do I do it? If you already have the correct depends, just download it and install with dpkg. Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.4-4), libpaperg, libpng2 (= 1.0.12), xlibs ( 4.1.0), zlib1g (= 1:1.1.4), gs-common If not, you might be able to build a package from the Debian source package. You will need to put the sarge source in /etc/apt/sources.list and run 'apt-get build-dep gs-aladdin ; apt-get -b source gs-aladdin ; dpkg -i gs-aladdin*deb' -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Email (Solved)...next...POP3 setup
On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 11:49:31AM -0700, Michael Olds wrote: Carel, OK, I got it. It was the permissions on the K-mail client program itself. It was root root for userme and root is set to receive no mail. ...now...on to POP3 configuration...I am using qpopper. I see the qpopper.conf in /etc/ but the package installed with no configuration dialog and the instructions say to configure using ./configure which I assume is from the install directory, only there is no install directory... Those instructions are from the original .tar.gz source. ./configure is used to create the Makefile prior to compiling the program. The source documentation is usually (?) installed as part of a Debian package, but since it is already compiled, you do not need to do this. There is probably something else in the documentation which describes what configuration you need to do, if any. Check the file listing dpkg -L qpopper and see what was installed. Check any man pages shown. ...or...any better suggestions for a POP3 server? I have used both qpopper and cucipop, but am currently running popa3d, which doesn't require any configuration and is both simple and secure. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ghostscript 7.04...
Try gs-aladdin instead of ghostscript. It has a more-restrictive license and is in non-free (the older versions are GPL'd and exist in main). I don't know about woody, but sarge has 7.04. Bob On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 02:14:37PM -0600, Mike Fontenot wrote: The versions of ghostscript in potato and in woody don't do an adequate job of converting postscript to pdf (for a postscript file that I produced using groff, with some eqn equations). I've been advised by Derek Noonburg that I need a newer version of ghostscript: version 7.04 (potato has 5.10, and woody has 6.50). How do I determine if there is a debian package for ghostscript 7.04 anywhere, and if so, how can I install it on my potato system? (I've already installed the woody version of ghostscript on my potato system). Mike Fontenot [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Woody Installation Problems II
On Sun, Sep 29, 2002 at 09:15:39PM +0200, Daniel Fabian wrote: Look up your laptop on http://linux-laptop.net (although they seem to be down at the moment )^8 ) to see if there's any known issues with it. If there's not anything outstandingly difficult, try again, but choose a very minimal install at first - this'll give you a (hopefully) functional system that you can then add to, and at least see the error messages when it fails. This is what I had to do with my laptop (an old Thinkad) because there are some problems with the sound card. You ave to use a workaround, well documented, but I couldn't set it up until I had an installed system, but I couldn't install the system because it kept hanging . . . you get the picture. The very minimal install approach worked for me, though. [Update:] Try 4: This time it's docbook that causes it to hang. With all the beeping again. Is there anything these packets (cxref, esound-common and docbook) have in common? The VERY minimal install is a good idea. It's worked for me also. None of these packages (cxref, esound-common, docbook) would be included in a minimal system. I suspect the problem has nothing to do with any of them, but if you can get a small system functional, hopefully you will be able to capture the error messages when you do reach the point of failure. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFree86 Problems [continues Woody Installation Problems II]
On Sun, Sep 29, 2002 at 11:45:43PM +0200, Daniel Fabian wrote: Hi List, Sorry to bother you all again. As some of you told me, I setup a minimal system, and installed xfree86 and kde with apt-get. Now that the installed completed correctly, I'm experiencing my next problem: startx sets my screen into graphic mode and I see two stripes in gray (looks somehow like the screen does not support a that high color depth, but in windows I have 32bit color depth, and in xfree, I set it to 16). The according section in XF86Conf-4 is probably Device and the Driver option is set to sis (it's a SIS630 chip onboard). I have some experience with linux in a server environment, but I have absolutly zero experience with linux as desktop, so I can't really help myself. I read up on my laptop on linux-laptop.net (well, the google cache, it's down again), but did not find anything usefull. I had similar problems with the xserver-xfree86 driver and the SIS630 onboard video in one of my systems. If you check the driver status document at http://www.xfree86.org/4.2.0/Status30.html#30, you will see that for the SiS630, there are some problems with this version. I replaced that with the xserver-svga driver. Yes it is 3.3.6 not 4.x, but with this driver, I find the video to be quite satisfactory (although I haven't tried anything really demanding.) This version of the older driver works with the other components of X 4.x. Hopefully a future version of the X 4.x driver will fully support the 630. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Defeting Crappy Bios
Compaqs tend to be problematic. I've worked with several (starting in 1984 with an 8086 DeskPro) and have run into problems of some sort with every one. If you can get to the BIOS setup, possibly you can configure it to boot to a CD-ROM or hard drive. Try hitting the F10 key during the boot process. Friends don't let friends buy Compaq. On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 01:15:39AM -0400, TooMany Mirrors wrote: I have a compaq computer I got for $30.00 and though a good price, has a really awful bios feature that not only only lets me boot to a floppy it won't boot to anything but a windows boot disk. I hostly can't explain it, but that is the state of things, so don't ask :) So my question is if there is a way to boot to a windows floppy, I have a win98 disk available so it's idea for me, and still install Linux. I'm also concered about being able to boot linux once it's install (if it's installed :) ) Thanks for any tips. By the way it's a Compaq Presario 4714 with a Pentium 1 and 24MB mem so on an so forth. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian 3.0r0 installation Problems
On Sat, Sep 28, 2002 at 03:03:28PM +0200, Daniel Fabian wrote: did you look at this site which covers installing linux on IPC laptops http://www.linux-laptop.net/ipc.html It's probably the SIS 630 graphics adapter. I had problems with it installing SuSE 7.2 too. Redhat worked without problems. Does debian have a graphical installation? Is there a way to install it text only, so I can later change the framebuffer settings? I've installed Debian on a desktop with the SiS 630 (ASUS TUSI-M motherboard) without any problems (I had to use X3.3 xserver-svga for X instead of X4.1). I haven't yet tried using framebuffers, however. The Debian installation is entirely text-based, using ncurses. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: question about editors for lil.conf and other configuration files
nano is included in base, I believe. It is a clone of pico, which is the default editor for pine. On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 01:49:37PM -0600, Scott B. Berry wrote: Hello everyone, I am wondering if there are any other editors included in the base system besides vi? I don't care for it much. If not, how can I get some other editors to and other programs. i don't havemy modem set up yet but definitely need something differnt. Scott Berry Msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo Messenger: electronicman1960 If you are interested in scanning and you are blind please come join our police scanner list. To subscribe send a message to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: connect 2 computers with USB
On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 07:38:36PM -0400, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: --Geoff Crompton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (on Friday, 13 September 2002, 09:26 AM +1000): On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 01:32:02PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 03:28:45PM +0200, Robert Ian Smit wrote: | On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 03:17:00PM +0200, Olivier Esser wrote: | Is it possible to connect two computers with a USB cable? | | Yes, but it won't get you a network if that is what you | want. Sure it will. Ok, the network will be very small (precisely 2 machines), but it is a network. If you want to share your Internet connection, then one of the machines would need another connection to the outside world, and you would need to find a way to proxy/masquerade requests. The former condition is easy, but the latter I'm not sure about. -D What sort of drivers do you use? And what sort of usb cables do you use to plug each computer into each other? I did some research on this a couple years ago, and have followed it ever since. You need special USB devices to do this -- such a device allows two usb hubs to connect and communicate with each other, as well as to communicate information about their systems. It's basically a point-to-point network. It is NOT as simple as getting a cable and connecting the two controllers, however -- it's a device that sits between the two computers and to which each computer is plugged. And they are no cheaper than going out and getting a couple of network cards and a hub -- but are more of a pain to set up and considerably slower. Go get a couple cheap network cards and a four-port ethernet hub. It's easier and cheaper. If you will never need to connect more than two, get the cards, forget the hub and get a crossover cable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing new kernel
On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 09:54:10AM +0530, J.S.Sahambi wrote: Sorry, I meant kernel-image-2.4.19-686 (I think this is the latest!) Currently I have kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4. If I install the new kernel image with the command: apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.19-686 , 1) will it install the kernel in a saparate dir and not mess up the dir of older kernel? It will install the kernel in the same directory, /boot, but it will have a unique name (vmlinuz-2.4.19-686). 2) will it add one more item inthe lilo for the new kernel and so that In can select the older kernel at boot time, in case I want? IIRC (I use grub), the older kernel gets labelled something like OldLinux, while the new one will be Linux. Grub will show many more possibilities if the kernels exist. 3) and will I be able to remove this new kerenl in case I want and still have the older kernel on the system. Yes. 4) do I have to install any other package apart from kernel-image-2.4.19-686? like kernel-header, etc? No (some self-compiled programs get the headers from kernel-headers or kernel-source, however). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: i810 video and Debian 3.0
On Sun, Sep 08, 2002 at 09:09:11AM +0100, Peter Whysall wrote: On Sun, 2002-09-08 at 07:44, Evan Burkitt wrote: I recently installed version 3.0 of Debian on a Dell GX110, which has a built-in video adaptor based on the Intel i810 controller. I set up Xfree86 during installation from Debian packages, but it fails to start due to a missing agpgart module. I looked at the source distributions for XFree86 and the agpgart module doesn't appear to be in the 4.x distribution, and the file in the 3.x distribution doesn't support the v2.4 Linux kernel. If I have to, I can install a video card in a PCI slot and override the built-in hardware, but I'd prefer not to spend the money or disturb the Win2K installation that the computer dual-boots. Any recommendations on how I can get X to work with my existing hardware? The missing module is a kernel module - not an XFree86 one. Here's the relevant bits from my config (BX440 board): CONFIG_AGP=y CONFIG_AGP_INTEL=y # CONFIG_AGP_I810 is not set # CONFIG_AGP_VIA is not set # CONFIG_AGP_AMD is not set # CONFIG_AGP_SIS is not set # CONFIG_AGP_ALI is not set # CONFIG_AGP_SWORKS is not set CONFIG_DRM=y As you can see, there's a specific option for i810 AGP. It can be compiled into the kernel, or as a module. You can find these options in the Character Devices section, if you use menuconfig or xconfig. I don't know what kernel version you are using, but the Debian 2.4.19-686 kernel package has this already defined: CONFIG_AGP=m CONFIG_AGP_INTEL=y CONFIG_AGP_I810=y CONFIG_AGP_VIA=y CONFIG_AGP_AMD=y CONFIG_AGP_SIS=y CONFIG_AGP_ALI=y CONFIG_AGP_SWORKS=y -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to make kernel-modules-version.deb?
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 04:01:11PM -0700, Eric Richardson wrote: Hi, I've been able to to use make-kpkg kernel-image to create a custom kernel .deb file from a kernel source package. All the modules are compiled and I tried make-kpkg modules-image but no deb file gets created. How do I create the modules deb file? Any modules specified in .config get included in the kernel .deb package. If you have module source in /usr/src/modules, then 'make-kpkg modules_image will create a package for those modules. On a related note, does the kernel installer create the initrd.img? preinst or postinst or ? make-kpkg --initrd See man make-kpkg(1), kernel-img.conf(5), man kernel-pkg.conf(5) for more information. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Woody on a 486/50
On Fri, Sep 06, 2002 at 03:14:23PM -0400, David Sanders wrote: I'm trying to install Woody on a 486/50 with 8MB RAM SCSI CD/HD. I boot with a DOS floppy, go to CD:\install and execute boot.bat. Everything seems to be working until it outputs something like: RAMDISK: Found compressed image at sector 0 Then it hangs and locks up the machine requiring a CTRL-ALT-DEL Any suggested remedy? David Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandersweb.net I believe 16 MB is the minimum nowadays, at least with ramdisk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't find /usr/src/linux/..
On Thu, Sep 05, 2002 at 11:28:46PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm probebly stupid but on my debian 3.0 system there is no /usr/src/linux Is there a package I should install Install a kernel-source package for the kernel version you wish, then untar it and create a symbolic link to /usr/src/linux. Or if you only need the includes, install the kernel-header and symlink to that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installed kernel source but still no modversions.h!
On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 07:21:22PM +0100, Alex Hunsley wrote: Alex Hunsley wrote: I'm trying to compile the 3c90x netcard driver from 3com. First time I try, I get this: 3c90x.h:22: linux/modversions.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:13, from 3c90x.h:36, from 3c90x.c:1: so I remembered I need to install the kernel source. I've installed it (and made sure it's at /usr/src/linux) and followed the instructions at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/PCTel-MicroModem-Config/trouble.html#AEN468 - in other words, I did make config followed by make dep. For make config I just answered 'default' to all the qeustions (by holding down return!) After 'make dep', the file include/modversions.h still wasn't there. What am I doing wrong? I did a find on modversions.h and it's sitting in /usr/src/linux/include/linux, which is the wrong place? I assumed that the kernel source tar should be untarred and have it's contents put into /usr/src/linux, am I wrong about this? This occurs because Debian supplies its own versions of the include files with libc6, instead of symlinking /usr/include/linux to /usr/src/linux/include/linux. See /usr/share/doc/libc6/README.Debian.gz. Specifically, If there is just one particular program/package that needs different headers, and your kernel of choice is installed in the usual place, you can use the -I/usr/src/linux/include option on the gcc command line, when compiling that specific program. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
