Re: shadow password support

There are shadow packages in project/experimental. We plan authentication support (not just shadow) for 1.3 . Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3

Re: dual pentium

Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: how to rebuild mgetty_0.99.2-6

to install the debmake package if any part of its utilities was used to produce that package. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM

Re: Debian 1.2 install problem - short memory

relocate that 384k. There are some quite large device drivers that you don't need. That laptop uses IDE disks, right? Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3

Re: Debian 1.2 rescue disk reboots Toshiba Tecra laptop

Yes, it uses a bzImage kernel. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: cdrom problem during installation

Gee, these CD drivers are no fun at all. Did you try placing a CD in the drive? (or removing the CD?). Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3

Re: Debian 1.2 rescue disk reboots Toshiba Tecra laptop

Can you send me the patch? I guess it effects SysLinux, which is what we are using. I'll have to make another floppy image. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95

Re: 1.2 Upgrade Experience

I think dpkg-ftp needs to sort the packages into dependency order before it retrieves them (since it generally doesn't get them all at once when doing a major upgrade). Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP

mirror up-to-dateness report

archive isn't what is listed in README.mirrors. This report will become more reliable over the next week or so, and will become a regular feature on our web site. To check the up-to-dateness of your mirror, read the file timestamp.txt in the root of its Debian mirror. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce

Re: Kernel assumes 486

The kernel for Debian 1.2 is built for a 386. It's time to upgrade that 1.1 system! Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e

Re: Installing 1.2 on a headless machine

because there is so little space. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL

Re: dpkg package database error

Measuring the bandwidth of a mirror puts a significant load on the mirror and the measuring site, and network links in between - I'd prefer to have mirror customers make their own determination of their throughput by performing real file transfers. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens

Re: Debian and Windows95

Back up your Linux system just in case Windows 95 clobbers its partition. Make a boot floppy, and make sure the floppy works. Then you should be able to safely install Windows 95. The easiest way to restore LILO is probably to re-install the package. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL

Re: Buzz (Lightyear) Where Are You?

-- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Recompiled Kernel route error:)

I don't know if this will solve your problem, but I'd strongly suggest you upgrade your kernel to 2.0.27 . 2.0.0 had many known problems. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6

Re: Has anyone installed on a Toshiba T2115CS?

There is a kernel bug that kills the Toshiba Tecra. My next boot disk set (tomorrow evening if I'm lucky) will fix it. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24

Re: 99.9% load in /sbin/sylsogd - upgrade errors

Look in /etc/syslogd.conf, and make sure all of the log files are there. It's generally a missing news log file. Briuce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3

Re: Whats in a name?

Debian is for Deb and Ian Murdock. Ian founded the Debian project. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word

Re: Rawrite2 Permision Denied

of problem on NT and OS/2. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: x startup error

Install the cpp package or the gcc package. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL

Re: qmail, was RE: mta suggestions?

I'll try to get a 1200K rescue disk built - I'm still working on the install set for 1.2.1 . Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM

Bruce off-line due to flood

will be to the project before then. The developers have my phone number if someone needs to reach me in the next few days. Thanks Bruce Perens Debian Project Leader -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4

Need information from people who have had problems with booting

send him information on what drivers hang up your system, etc. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail

Re: Gold v. Green Debian CDs

. Don't be surprised if some drives can't read a CD-R. In many cases you can't solve the problem except by changing to a different drive. Thanks Bruce Perens -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6

Are you waiting for Bruce to do something?

proceed in my absence. I'll be at USELINUX all day Thursday and Friday. Thanks Bruce Perens -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM

Debian Ham Radio operators at Uselinux

Try calling K6BP Thursday or Friday on 146.940- PL 131.8 . Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word

Someone please answer user question on Trident 94xx?

I think the latest X deals with this, but I don't know for sure. Please write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] directly. Thanks Bruce --- Forwarded mail from Fabrice Chapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:46:26 -0100 From: Fabrice Chapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Need information from people who have had problems with boot

, etc. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble

Re: Best Debian CD?

I think all existing silver Debian CDs are parts of sets. Infomagic - 6 CDs. Pacific Hightech - January edition of their Monthly CD, also contains redhat updates and contrib, Java, and Linux Gazette. Linux Systems Labs - BINARY only RH, Slackware, and

Re: Best Debian CD?

On Jan 14, 7:05pm, Nathan L. Cutler wrote: Nothing against Richard personally, but I find this message disturbing. Never judge a book by its cover, as the saying goes. This applies doubly to Linux! Aren't we attracted to it so much for the very reason that it is the very antithesis of

Are you _STILL_ waiting for Bruce to do something? :-)

write back to me. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL

Debian Leader appearing on Long Island and Rochester N.Y.

, and plan to visit France and England in May (although that date could change). Thanks Bruce Perens Debian Project Leader -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76

Re: Problems with 1.2 Install Disks

Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL

Serious mis-perception of reality going on here.

with the knee-jerk response from a number of you. Bruce Perens -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Announcement: Debian Official CD Policy

to correspond with me personally. For some reason discussing this on the list leads to massive distortion. Perhaps personal email will work better. Thanks Bruce Perens Debian Project Leader -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key

Withdrawl of fee for producing Debian CDs

in it. Thanks Bruce Perens Debian Project Leader -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word

Re: getting kicked off my account

when this happens. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Donations to the Debian project

this week. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Donations to the Debian project

Has anyone looked into taxes? How is Debian setup? Is there offical paper(in the eyes of fed./state/country)? We've looked, but little has been done. We have a treasurer volunteer (Bruce said, breathing a great sigh of relief that he would not be stuck with the job). Thanks

Re: Why does no one care that Brad Spengler of GRSecurity is blatantly violating the intention of the rightsholders to the Linux Kernel?

Thank you. I did not have a copy of the Grsecurity Stable Patch Access Agreement before, and I've linked it to my article . IMO it's quite imprudent of them to put down in writing how they

Re: Why does no one care that Brad Spengler of GRSecurity is blatantly violating the intention of the rightsholders to the Linux Kernel?

Hi Bradley, I was proceeding after others in the community had already made contact and were rebuffed. I have definitely looked at the principles of GPL-oriented enforcement that SFC is currently distributing. I have some issues with your current policy. Let's discuss the policy of forgiveness

Re: If no enforcement takes place between two parties (GPL) Was: Re: Why does no one care that Brad Spengler of GRSecurity is blatantly violating the intention of the rightsholders to the Linux Kernel

Bradley is uncomfortable with your (not mine) cc list. You should drop him from the next message. Things are different for a collective work. I don't believe Linus can represent the desires of all copyright holders.

Re: If no enforcement takes place between two parties (GPL) Was: Re: Why does no one care that Brad Spengler of GRSecurity is blatantly violating the intention of the rightsholders to the Linux Kernel

A laches might be created if all of the rights holders actually had the capability to enforce and were refraining from doing so. But they are restrained by finances. So, I don't believe there is any laches.

Re: If no enforcement takes place between two parties (GPL) Was: Re: Why does no one care that Brad Spengler of GRSecurity is blatantly violating the intention of the rightsholders to the Linux Kernel

Well, you are confusing civil and criminal law. I assure you winning a laches defense is no sure thing, nor does it necessarily win the entire case, it is more likely to only limit the period of the offense for which the plaintiff may seek damages. And being a passive participant in Linus

Re: If no enforcement takes place between two parties (GPL) Was: Re: Why does no one care that Brad Spengler of GRSecurity is blatantly violating the intention of the rightsholders to the Linux Kernel

e's status as a minor) >> > > Though it is said "one who represents himself usually has a fool for a > client", that does not mean one is legally or physically incapable of > mounting a case, thus if one does sit on one's cause of action (regardless > of finances), laches may appl

Re: Why does no one care that Brad Spengler of GRSecurity is blatantly violating the intention of the rightsholders to the Linux Kernel?

I think I'll be able to write something to inform present and potential customers of the lawsuit risk and their position as contributory infringers. This is more effective than writing to the company. Thanks Bruce On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Richard Stallman wrote:

Re: Why does no one care that Brad Spengler of GRSecurity is blatantly violating the intention of the rightsholders to the Linux Kernel?

I published an advisory regarding Grsecurity at http://perens.com/blog/2017/06/28/warning-grsecurity-potential-contributory-infringement-risk-for-customers/ Thanks Bruce On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: >> >> I am not trying to study the

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