Re: rescue distro on 128 meg usb key?
On 10/31/06, Nicolas Pillot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2006/10/31, Matt Price [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I currently have only one usb key, which is 128 megs, and I was wondering if anyone knew of a distro that would run off of a removable medium this small. Damn Small Linux (DSL) may do the trick http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ See also Slax (http://www.slax.org/), particularly the Popcorn edition, and grml (http://grml.org/ and http://wiki.grml.org/doku.php?id=usb). Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Log File Permissions Issue
On 11/2/06, Douglas Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 01:39:44PM +1100, Duncan McDonald wrote: Hi All, I recently installed Awstats on my machine (running Sarge) and everything seems to be working except that it seems to have trouble accessing the Apache log files. As my log files belong to root and the group 'adm', when the Awstats generation script is run by 'www-data' it triggers a permission denied error. I've managed to get it running by changing the ownership of the logs to www-data, but of course when a new log file is created it reverts to root ownership. Is there a way to grant access for all log files to www-data or should I run the Awstats script as root? I don't know the correct answer but what would happen if you added 'www-data' to group adm? All group adm (admin) can do is read log files. Review the debian policy manual for this. At least this change is easily reverted. Perhaps someone who runs apache and awstats has a better answer. Perhaps this is a bug in either awstats or apache so you may want to search the bug lists for these packages on the debian website. Doug. I seem to recall once having a similar problem with Snort / ACID [0]. I believe I had to do something like Doug's suggestion. Celejar [0] http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/rdanyliw/snort/snortacid.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.6 and amd K6-II
On 11/5/06, Bernard Adrian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Second i said myself : Dummy, amd k6-II is not a 486 processor but a 686. So i got linux-image-2.6-686. It's not written on it that it works on AMD K6-II. But i tried and ... nothing append. After loading I believe that the k6 is NOT a 686. Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's up with all the attitude
into these discussions - I'm just a glutton for punishment, I guess, this time. Want REAL attitude? Try OpenBSD. Now THAT's an attitude. (And we'll leave it up to you to decide if it's good or bad... that's a judgement call I'm not prepared to discuss on a Linux list! GRIN...) Better yet, find someone who actually works on mainframes daily and listen for attitude... it's there, subtly telling you that their systems still run some of the largest data processing in the world, serious money, serious effort, serious uptime -- similar to the Dilbert Unix cartoon where the guy with the white hair, suspenders, and a smug expression says, Here's a nickel kid, get yourself a better computer., and tosses Dilbert a nickel. Mainframe guys and gals are both cool, and at the same time, somewhat odd. :-) In the end: None of the attitude matters. Either the computer does what you need it to do or it doesn't with a particular software package loaded, or it doesn't. It's a machine. It's just like an automobile or any other large complex piece of machinery -- you buy it to do something. If you bought it to play with, and not do anything useful, and then you spend your days in flamefests and have attitude online about your box full of transistor switches... you're just wasting your time. Lots of mailing list flamefests abound about whether Chevy's are better than Fords too. I like to pick on Fords, but ultimately only I care about what I drive... you really don't unless you work for Ford or Chevy. :-) Nate One of the most intelligent soliloquies I've seen in a while. Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's up with all the attitude
On 11/6/06, Steve Kemp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 03:23:27PM -0500, celejar wrote: One of the most intelligent soliloquies I've seen in a while. I'm glad you liked it. I wish you'd trimmed it from your reply so we didn't have to read it twice. Steve Sorry. Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
thttpd and php
I want thttpd to do php. php can be built as an SAPI module for thttpd [0]; is this module available in Debian? I suppose I can always use the CGI interface (package php4-cgi) or build it myself if it isn't. I'm currently using lighttpd which officially supports php via fastcgi (through php4-cgi). Celejar [0] http://lxr.php.net/source/php-src/sapi/thttpd/README -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Keypress multiplying under X and kernel 2.6.x
Hi, I've been having a weird problem with X and 2.6.x kernels (I'm currently running somewhat uptodate unstable using xserver-xorg 1:7.1.0-8 and linux-image-2.6.18-3-486 2.6.18-8). Every now and then, without any pattern or triggering event that I can determine, CPU usage spikes to 100% and a keypress is multiplied dozens, hundreds or even thousands of times. This happens across all different contexts within X, such as typing text in an application or an xterm, using an application's hotkeys, and even using the WM's (Xfce) control keys. I have never seen the problem at the console (not even when X is running and I shift back to the console with alt-ctrl-F1), and I have never seen it under kernel 2.4.x (currently kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386 2.4.27-11). Anyone have an idea about what's going on? Should I report a bug against xserver-xorg or against the kernel? Celejar -- ssuds.sourceforge.net - Home of Ssuds and Ssudg, a Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: moving /var
On 12/21/06, s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note mv doesn't work between filesystems. cp -a or tar/untar (or any other archiver) is the right way. Are you sure this is true? I think I use mv to do that all the time. Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppoe configuration - unable to ping outside
On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 10:58:27 +0530 Anuj Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Greetings, This is my first mail to to users list. Recently I installed Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 (`sarge') Welcome! I have eth0 connected to my adsl router and eth1 to my local network. I configured my adsl with pppoeconf, logs shows me I am connected, and ifconfig gives me ppp0 address too. route -n gives me ip address of my router (that is correct = 192.168.1.1), my eth0 has ip 192.168.1.3 and eth1 has 10.1.1.3 I can ping router/ local machines , but can not ping outside, my /etc/resolv.conf is updated and I tried given nameserver from my isp as well as automatically detected dns. Is your router set to be the default gateway? What is the exact output of 'route'? Does outside ping fail for the other machines on the local net or even for the box connected directly to the modem? Does ping fail even for manually entered IP addresses or only when you use DNS? Same configuration is working smoothly on Redhat/Fedora, but I am facing problems on debian. I can use redhat/fedora but so far I found debian much better (used it before), don't want to stick with redhat/fedora. regards anuj Celejar -- ssuds.sourceforge.net - Home of Ssuds and Ssudg, a Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RTF - proprietary or open?
[Back to list] On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:13:38 +0300 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Hillier-Brook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a Microsoft standard. Draw your own conclusions regarding open. I'd certainly suspect MS, but its authorship is insufficient reason to conclude that it isn't open. authorship is surely insufficient but why don't you take into account these also: - Microsoft is a company with 95% share in the office suits - convicted for monopoly practises some years before - continuously prosecuted for the same reason ever after - unwilling(to put it lightly) to comply to European Union's court rulings to make their products interoperable - strongly(to put it lightly) opposed to an evolving open standard for office documents anyway, IMHO: even if RTF is open under some interpretation it's not to be used as a critical component of OS SW. You will have noticed already that it's hard to find the license for the implementation of RTF. Have you? Hundreds of pages of technical documentation and no license makes me nervous and it's *THE* reason for me not to use RTF when the licensor is a company like Microsoft and I want to help it's main competitor. Understood. OTOH, a leading OSS product (Abiword) recommends RTF for document exchange, and that counts for something to me. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RTF - proprietary or open?
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:23:20 +0300 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/28/07, Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:13:38 +0300 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] anyway, IMHO: even if RTF is open under some interpretation it's not to be used as a critical component of OS SW. You will have noticed already that it's hard to find the license for the implementation of RTF. Have you? Hundreds of pages of technical documentation and no license makes me nervous and it's *THE* reason for me not to use RTF when the licensor is a company like Microsoft and I want to help it's main competitor. Understood. OTOH, a leading OSS product (Abiword) recommends RTF for document exchange, and that counts for something to me. if you are referring to link #2 in your original post then keep in I'm also referring to the (current?) documentation, which states: Rich Text Format Rich Text Format, or RTF, is a file format that contains all the formatting information about your file, and which can be read by almost all word processors. This is the format you should use if you need to send a file to someone who doesn't use AbiWord. 'Rich Text Format for old apps' is an older version of RTF, but applications have to be very old to need it. You should use normal RTF unless you know that you need to use the older version. mind two things: 1) it was made in 2003 - ODF was not around at the time IIUC, it was around, although it wasn't formally adopted as an OASIS standard until 2005. After all, the thread I cite in that note refers to OASIS / XML. 2) he (Dom Lachowicz) seems to be the type of guy that I use this phrase to describe: technical matters are far more important than legal ones. So he sees things from that very specific point of view. That's good if you want the damn thing[1] to just work but it's bad if you want the damn thing to serve the community for a long time. The times have changed and we can't ignore legal issues any more. If microsoft offers no clear/solid commitment regarding what we can and what we can not do with their specifications then we should be searching for alternatives as soon as possible. In between you may use the spec as long as you don't get very dependent to its usage because some day you may very well read some threats in the press about the hundreds of patents/terms/IP rights or whatever Microsoft thinks your usage violates Thanks, I understand your points. [1] a way to exchange documents with us much people as possible Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: restarting pump (DHCP) automatically when network unavailable at boot time
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 22:47:09 +0200 Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a machine in a local network, I have in my /etc/network/interfaces file: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp But after a power outage, my machine sometimes restarts while the network isn't available yet. In this case, I can no longer ssh to it. And I can't reboot it remotely. How can I make pump (the DHCP client I'm using) to try again periodically? I think I can write a script that tests if pump is running (with the ps command) and can run this script by cron. But is there a better way? I use dhclient (I know you said in a different message in this thread that you don't like it), which by default does a bunch of DHCPDISCOVERS, and if they all fail, it then goes to sleep (for 5 minutes by default), and then begins the process again when it wakes up. This behavior seems to be exactly what you need; unfortunately, I don't know anything about pump. Vincent Lefèvre [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator
Re: 'file' doesn't recognize my Abiword .ode file
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:06:57 +0200 Mathias Brodala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Celejar. Celejar, 25.06.2007 16:40: 'file' reports just 'data' when queried about an Abiword .odt file. Abiword does not support the ODT format yet. What makes you think that it did save in this format? ??? When I open the Save Dialog and click on the Save File As Type button, one of the choices in the drop down list is OpenDocument (.odt), and when selected, Abi saves as an .odt file. There's a bug here [0], Where? Sorry, forgot the note: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=383409 but the discussion indicates that 'file' is reporting 'zip'. Yeah, that’s what OpenDocuments are after all. Not the point; they are seeing .zip while I'm seeing data. Why? Regards, Mathias Thanks, Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 'file' doesn't recognize my Abiword .ode file
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:35:25 +0200 Mathias Brodala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Celejar. Celejar, 04.07.2007 02:18: On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:06:57 +0200 Mathias Brodala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Celejar, 25.06.2007 16:40: 'file' reports just 'data' when queried about an Abiword .odt file. Abiword does not support the ODT format yet. What makes you think that it did save in this format? ??? When I open the Save Dialog and click on the Save File As Type button, one of the choices in the drop down list is OpenDocument (.odt), and when selected, Abi saves as an .odt file. Now that’s odd. I don’t have that option and never had; using version 2.4.6 from Debian stock. Double-checking … no, nowhere to be found here. Apparently ODF support is a plugin, distributed in abiword-plugins. From that package's changelog: abiword (1.0.2+cvs.2002.08.10-1) unstable; urgency=low * The Truckin' release. * New upstream release (CVS). * Added OpenWriter plugin. -- Masayuki Hatta [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat, 10 Aug 2002 10:37:15 +0900 And from 'dpkg -L abiword-plugins': /usr/lib/AbiWord-2.4/plugins/libAbiOpenDocument.so /usr/lib/AbiWord-2.4/plugins/libAbiOpenDocument.la /usr/lib/AbiWord-2.4/plugins/libAbiOpenWriter.so /usr/lib/AbiWord-2.4/plugins/libAbiOpenWriter.la http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=383409 but the discussion indicates that 'file' is reporting 'zip'. Yeah, that’s what OpenDocuments are after all. Not the point; they are seeing .zip while I'm seeing data. Why? Seems to have been clarified in the mentioned report now. I don't understand. All the messages I see in the report indicate that file is recognizing the document as a zip archive, just not as an ODF document. Regards, Mathias Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrade on box not on Net
On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 20:25:09 +0100 John K Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to upgrade a box not connected to the Internet? I run etch on my home desktop and sid on my laptop but I have a machine at work that is not, and never likely to be, connected to the internet. It currently has etch installed off the 3 DVD set which I downloaded via jigdo. I know I can create updated DVDs of etch using jigdo but how could I upgrade from etch to sid with no internet connection? Is this possible or even advisable? The main reason for wanting to upgrade is This is what the apt-zip package is for. the huge difference in Open Office 2.0 to 2.2. Or could I just install OO2.2 over the stable package? Regards, John Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 'file' doesn't recognize my Abiword .ode file
On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 23:20:19 +0200 Mathias Brodala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Celejar. Celejar, 05.07.2007 21:35: On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:35:25 +0200 Mathias Brodala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Celejar, 04.07.2007 02:18: On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:06:57 +0200 Mathias Brodala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Celejar, 25.06.2007 16:40: [snip] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=383409 but the discussion indicates that 'file' is reporting 'zip'. Yeah, that’s what OpenDocuments are after all. Not the point; they are seeing .zip while I'm seeing data. Why? Seems to have been clarified in the mentioned report now. I don't understand. All the messages I see in the report indicate that file is recognizing the document as a zip archive, just not as an ODF document. Are we talking about the same report? From the report: With the attached diff file, file now displays: $ file -i magic.odt magic.odt: application/x-zip application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text And: The problem is that I don't know it's OK to display two mime types. The file is a real ZIP file and is also an OpenDocument Text file. no, it should only display one, but i (think) i have already a patch to fix that, will be uploaded in the next revision. I guess Daniel is just busy, you might want to ask for the current status in this report. We're talking about the same report. What I meant was that even before the fixes, the messages in the report indicated that file was reporting zip, and their problem was that they wanted file to report ODT. My problem is that file doesn't even seem to realize that it's looking at a zip archive. Regards, Mathias Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 'file' doesn't recognize my Abiword .ode file
On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 02:36:30 +0200 Mathias Brodala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Celejar. Celejar, 06.07.2007 02:25: On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 23:20:19 +0200 Mathias Brodala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Celejar, 05.07.2007 21:35: On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:35:25 +0200 Mathias Brodala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Celejar, 04.07.2007 02:18: On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:06:57 +0200 Mathias Brodala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Celejar, 25.06.2007 16:40: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=383409 […] What I meant was that even before the fixes, the messages in the report indicated that file was reporting zip, and their problem was that they wanted file to report ODT. My problem is that file doesn't even seem to realize that it's looking at a zip archive. Ah yes. Took me a while to figure it out: the solution is the -i option which outputs the MIME type instead of a generic description: $ file -i foo.odt foo.odt: application/x-zip Thanks! I should have been reading more carefully ... Regards, Mathias Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using apt-zip -was Re: Upgrade on box not on Net
On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 20:58:55 + (UTC) Felix Karpfen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:02:44 -0400, Celejar wrote: On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 20:25:09 +0100 John K Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to upgrade a box not connected to the Internet? This is what the apt-zip package is for. 2 simple queries: 1. ZIP drives are a thing of the past. Presumably apt-zip works equally well with usb memory-sticks; and From the package description: Description: Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media These scripts simplify the process of using dselect and apt on a non-networked Debian box, using removable media like ZIP floppies and USB keys. One generates a `fetch' script (supporting backends such as wget and lftp, in a modular, extensible way) to be run on a host with better connectivity, check space constraints of your removable media, and then install the package on your Debian box. 2. My daughter - who has broadband access - uses a Mac. Can that be used to download the packages identified by apt-zip? To be honest, I've never actually used apt-zip, so I don't know. Felix Karpfen Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to check if a DVD is damaged?
On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 18:45:56 + Manon Metten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] GSpace than a mail client. But even without GSpace I have access to my account by simply logging in at gmail.google.com. Then I can then open the Or even more simply at 'gmail.com' :) Greetings, Manon. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing a JRE plug-in
On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 00:59:02 -0400 Roberto C. Sánchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snipped discussion about the need for client side Java] The funny thing is that there are times when it is nice. For example, some companies have very restrictive policies about downloading executables. Specifically, I once needed something to help me do some quick Karnaugh maps. I found a neat little binary freeware thingy out there that was very simple. Of course, it was against policy at the place I was at to download and run it. However, I kept searching until I found a site that a Java applet that did the same thing. That time it was OK, since I was not downloading and executing the program (the browser was). I guess that many corporate IT types don't see what a gaping hole that is, but it is sufficient to get around a lot of brain damage. I've found a similar use for client side Java on public access terminals that restrict software downloads but may allow Java. For example, many of the solutions for doing ssh from a web browser involve a client side Java applet. [Yes, I know that ssh from a public terminal is inherently and unfixably insecure.] [snip] However, on the whole, you are right that most times it is just done wrong. Much like flash. AOL! Regards, -Roberto Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator
Re: [OT] google desktop on Debian
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 14:35:34 -0400 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew J. Barr wrote: Sorry if I'm ignorant but, How is this better/different than Beagle or any of the other open-source data indexing projects out there? Actually I did not know that there are open source alternatives available for google-desktop-search. Only upon reading Matthew Poer's email, I came to know that there is such a thing called beagle. Anyway, I am trying it out now and hope it works. I also prefer open source alternatives to closed source software as long as they efficiently perform the job and provide all the features. I have briefly tried recoll, and I really like it so far, although I haven't yet used it extensively (there's a debian package). You can also check out strigi. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: aptitude wants to remove these. Do I need them?
On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 00:01:42 +0530 arijit sarkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 14:07 -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: cut - My rule of thumb for this kind of questions is that if the package's name does not ring a bell, you dont need it. The beauty of Debian is that, installing it at a later time (if you find that necessary) is a breeze. It might not be the case if you are running sid though! But if you are running sid, I assume you know what you are doing... My rule of thumb: 1. install 'deborphan' package. 2. run it. 3. you can safely remove the packages listed by deborphan. It never let me down. I'm not sure deborphan would work as well for a programmer who installs development libraries as it does for a non-programmer. IIUC, deborphan (in its default operation) assumes that all libraries that don't have any dependencies can be removed, but a programmer may have installed them intentionally. [The OP mentioned that he's a programmer doing development.] Arijit Sarkar Kolkata, India Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RTF - proprietary or open?
On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 15:35:24 -0400 Roberto C. Sánchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] While I personally prefer OOo over MSO and try to encourage people to switch, it will be a long time yet before non-MS formats are considered standard. Which brings us back to my original point; why not RTF? It's apparently a fairly open format, and apparently virtually all word processors can read and write it. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator
Re: Opera is faster, but...
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:19:12 -0700 Octavio Alvarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:17:45 -0700, Orestes leal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 13:05:11 -0400 Matthew K Poer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 09 July 2007 1:06 pm, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, On an unrelated matter I installed Opera on Sid. It *is* faster than iceweasel. But because it hasn't got the ease of the adblock extension, that turns out to be a wash. Hugo Are you *begging* for a flame war? I have always thought that FireFox was faster than Opera. Did you use safe mode (no extensions)? What? Seamonkey it's the fastest. None faster than elinks. ;-) Is elinks faster than links and links2 (serious question, I don't have any idea) ? Octavio. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Opera is faster, but...
On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 19:26:32 +0200 Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 12:06:35 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, On an unrelated matter I installed Opera on Sid. It *is* faster than iceweasel. But because it hasn't got the ease of the adblock extension, that turns out to be a wash. Privoxy does a decent job of filtering ads, web bugs and other nasty things. I have the impression that it is not quite as efficient in blocking ads as the combination of adblock and filterset.G, but privoxy is certainly much better than nothing and it works with any browser. (It is just a PRIVacy enhancing prOXY that you can run locally on your desktop computer.) We discuss this every now and then (I use privoxy), but is there any convenient way to easily add stuff that privoxy misses to its config files? Also, the default Debian privoxy runs once as root; adblock can obviously be configured on a per-user basis. Of course, I suppose one could run multiple privoxies, on different ports, for different users ... Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] google desktop on Debian
On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 15:17:16 -0400 Matthew K Poer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 09 July 2007 10:17 am, Celejar wrote: On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 14:35:34 -0400 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew J. Barr wrote: Sorry if I'm ignorant but, How is this better/different than Beagle or any of the other open-source data indexing projects out there? Actually I did not know that there are open source alternatives available for google-desktop-search. Only upon reading Matthew Poer's email, I came to know that there is such a thing called beagle. Anyway, I am trying it out now and hope it works. I also prefer open source alternatives to closed source software as long as they efficiently perform the job and provide all the features. I have briefly tried recoll, and I really like it so far, although I haven't yet used it extensively (there's a debian package). You can also check out strigi. Note the debian packages for recoll is in testing. There is no debian package for strigi. There are strigi packages in Sid. raju Kamaraju S Kusumanchi Celejar Matthew K Poer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Opera is faster, but...
On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 15:45:06 -0400
Gregory Seidman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 03:25:40PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
[...]
We discuss this every now and then (I use privoxy), but is there any
convenient way to easily add stuff that privoxy misses to its config
files? Also, the default Debian privoxy runs once as root; adblock can
obviously be configured on a per-user basis. Of course, I suppose one
could run multiple privoxies, on different ports, for different
users ...
I've never seen a good reason for per-user ad blocking. If it's an ad, I
want it blocked and I'm not clear on why anyone wouldn't. On the rare
occasions when there is a false positive, privoxy has a link right in its
block page for go there anyway. If it's a false negative, it should be
added, of course.
I suppose you're right, but in principle, browsing control should be
available to normal users. I'm also not sure whether you're really
right that no user will ever want to see any ad. As for the 'go there
anyway' links, I notice them when an entire page is blocked, but not
always when individual images are, especially small ones. Am I missing
something?
As for adding stuff easily, I have an /etc/privoxy/adblock.action file
separate from any other action files (and referenced in /etc/privoxy/config).
It's very simple:
{+block }
.247realmedia.com
.2o7.net
.adbrite.com
.adbureau.net
[ 90 more lines ]
/(.*/)?adv/.*
/(.*/)?ads/
/(.*/)?adx/.*
When I run across a new ad server, I edit the file (sudoedit, actually,
though I don't think there is any reason it couldn't be user-owned) and add
another domain or pattern. I don't even have to restart privoxy, since it
is smart enough to reread changed config files.
I agree that it can be done fairly simply, but right-clicking and
selecting 'block this' is still, at least for some, much more
straightforward than the following sequence: copy the ad server's url,
switch from the browser to an xterm, open an editor, move to the
desired location within the file, paste in the url, save the file. I
know that some of this can be automated, and that cli gurus can do it
all quite quickly, but still ...
Celejar
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Sylpheed: staying in thread upon deletion
Hi, [I posted this on the Sylpheed mailing list but received no response, so I'm trying here.] Please excuse this question if I've missed some obvious menu setting or piece of documentation. I'm using thread view, separate message view and sorting by date. When I delete a message, Sylpheed jumps to the next message by date, not to what I want, the next message in the current thread. Is there any way to change this? Should I be going about this entirely differently? I could sort by thread, but I like the ability to immediately see the latest messages to arrive at the bottom of the message list. I suppose I could keep switching back and forth between sorting methods, but that's kind of awkward. Hitting 'n' for next moves me to the next message in the thread, not the next message by date; shouldn't delete behave the same way? Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sylpheed: staying in thread upon deletion
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 11:26:41 +0200 Sjoerd Hiemstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:18:50 -0400 Celejar wrote: I'm using thread view (...) and sorting by date. When I delete a message, Sylpheed jumps to the next message by date, not to what I want, the next message in the current thread. Is there any way to change this? Yes, sorting should be switched off: View Sort Don't sort If you ever want to sort the messages by date in the future, you can do so by clicking 'Date' in the Summary View, or with View Sort by date, but immediately after that, again do a View Sort Don't sort. Thanks. I mentioned in my original post that I realized that I could keep toggling sorting, but that it's a rather awkward solution. There's really no graceful way to do what I want? I'd have thought that it would be a common thing to do. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Meta-R key doesn't exist
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 08:57:14 +0200 (CEST) Antonio Regidor García [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chances are, that you also don't have a right Alt key on your keyboard, but one labeled Alt Gr instead, that is intended for entering non-ascii characters (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltGr_key). If you don't need any of these (I am not familiar with the Spanish keyboard layout, but I assume there are some accented keys on it), you can simple redefine the AltGr key as Meta_R in your X server's keyboard layout (If you have a newer 105-keys, you can also use on of those Menu or Windows keys) Thanks for your fast reply. Yes, the key has Alt_Gr printed on it. I assumed that the Alt_Gr key should work as an Alt key in conjuction with non-symbol keys (Alt_Gr-x etc.). Thanks to your link now I know that it has nothing in common with the other Alt keys. I redefined it using xmodmap, I simply wanted to know On my system, without too much tweaking, the AltGr key certainly does behave as an Alt key; it invokes menus, switches windows with Alt-Tab, etc. I'm no X expert, though, so I may be missing something. [snip] Cheers, Antonio Regidor García Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator
Re: Sylpheed: staying in thread upon deletion
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:01:09 +0200 Sjoerd Hiemstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:07:21 -0400 Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 11:26:41 +0200 Sjoerd Hiemstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:18:50 -0400 Celejar wrote: I'm using thread view (...) and sorting by date. When I delete a message, Sylpheed jumps to the next message by date, not to what I want, the next message in the current thread. Is there any way to change this? Yes, sorting should be switched off: View Sort Don't sort If you ever want to sort the messages by date in the future, you can do so by clicking 'Date' in the Summary View, or with View Sort by date, but immediately after that, again do a View Sort Don't sort. Thanks. I mentioned in my original post that I realized that I could keep toggling sorting, but that it's a rather awkward solution. There's really no graceful way to do what I want? I'd have thought that it would be a common thing to do. Yes, there is - as I see it, you did not quite understand it. Simply do 'View Sort Don't sort' once, and Sylpheed does exactly what you want!! The threads will remain sorted by date anyway, since they are added at the end. You're right; I didn't quite understand you. I didn't realize that keeping sorting off would work because of new messages being added at the end. If, on rare occasions, old messages happen to get mixed up because of moving messages between folders, then if you re-sort them by date, this should be followed by a new 'Don't sort'. Hoping I've made myself clearer now, Thanks! I'm still wondering, though, about the question I raised in my original post; if 'Next' moves to the next message within the thread even when sorting, shouldn't 'Delete' behave the same way? Regards, Sjoerd Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re(2): openvpn in spite of firewalls
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:16:42 -0700 PETER EASTHOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Not that I know of. Is there an efficient reliable way to search for a UDP port? Nmap scans UDP ports with the -sU option. [snip] Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator
Re: USB bus fails to see devices
On 14 Jul 2007 12:55:01 -0400 Haines Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm told that USB support in the Linux kernel is buggy. Is it possible a kernel bug could cause it to miss my camera but still see all other USB devices? Is it likely my kernel would support my camera, and then for no obvious reason stop? I don't believe that USB support in the 2.6 series is particularly buggy. In the 2.4 series it's apparently rather incomplete, but even there, lsusb should see the device. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
XKB broken
Hi, On my uptodate Sid system, XKB has suddenly broken. None of my XKB settings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf are active, /var/log/xorg.0.log contains the line (WW) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap and setxkbmap (even without any options or flags) invariably returns Error loading new keyboard description. Anyone (Florian?) seen this or know what I'm supposed to do? I don't recall touching any Xorg settings or installing any Xorg stuff recently, but I may be forgetting something. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XKB broken
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:05:55 +0200 Jonathan Kaye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Celejar wrote: Hi, On my uptodate Sid system, XKB has suddenly broken. None of my XKB settings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf are active, /var/log/xorg.0.log contains the line (WW) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap and setxkbmap (even without any options or flags) invariably returns Error loading new keyboard description. Anyone (Florian?) seen this or know what I'm supposed to do? I don't recall touching any Xorg settings or installing any Xorg stuff recently, but I may be forgetting something. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator Hi Celejar, I don't know if this is your problem but in the upgrade from xserver-xorg-input-keyboard 1.1 to 1.2 the name of the keyboard driver changed. In xorg.conf you need to change the driver name from keyboard to kbd in the Input Devices section relating to the keyboard. This may or may not be the cause of your problem. Thanks - I already have 'kbd'. Cheers, Jonathan Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XKB broken
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 17:32:14 +0200 Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 15:42:04 -0400, Celejar wrote: Hi, On my uptodate Sid system, XKB has suddenly broken. None of my XKB settings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf are active, /var/log/xorg.0.log contains the line (WW) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap and setxkbmap (even without any options or flags) invariably returns Error loading new keyboard description. Anyone (Florian?) seen this or know what I'm supposed to do? I don't recall touching any Xorg settings or installing any Xorg stuff recently, but I may be forgetting something. I have not noticed any problems with XKB lately, but I only use a very basic configuration. (If I remember correctly, you want to switch quickly between different layouts for different languages, etc.) If you post your configuration I can try if it works on my system. Thanks, Florian. I'm attaching my current xorg.conf. Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator xorg.conf Description: Binary data
Re: how to ssh to a linux box from an internet cafe
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:14:22 +0300 Nick Demou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll soon be on vacations without my PC. I believe that internet access from an internet cafe will be my best option. If things go for the worse how can I ssh to my debian server? I suppose that a PC in most internet cafes will be willing to download and run putty.exe but am I right? If not is there any other option? I don't know whether they will, but here's [0] a very useful list of options for when you can't install a proper ssh client. Note that *whatever* you do from a public computer that isn't under your control is fundamentally insecure; the machine could be keylogging, and even if you're using ssh key based login, if someone else is controlling the machine, any data entering the machine can in principle be sniffed and captured. I admit that I would still access my machine from a public terminal if the consequences of a compromise weren't that high and / or if I had some modicum of trust in the operator. [0] http://anyterm.org/compared.html Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to ssh to a linux box from an internet cafe
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:31:38 +0530 Masatran, R. Deepak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Leonid Grinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-07-25 Use a USB thumb disk. A portable hard drive has much better value-for-money. But it is not as resistant to shock. http://research.iiit.ac.in/~masatran/gadgets/external-drive. But flash is cheaper on an absolute basis; 1 GB sticks can be readily had for $10 US or less after rebates. It's also much smaller. Masatran, R. Deepak http://research.iiit.ac.in/~masatran/ Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XKB broken
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:17:39 +0200
Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 10:50:05 -0400, Celejar wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 17:32:14 +0200 Florian Kulzer wrote:
On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 15:42:04 -0400, Celejar wrote:
Hi,
On my uptodate Sid system, XKB has suddenly broken. None of my XKB
settings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf are active, /var/log/xorg.0.log contains
the line (WW) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB
keymap and setxkbmap (even without any options or flags) invariably
returns Error loading new keyboard description.
[...]
If you post your configuration I can try if it works on my system.
Thanks, Florian. I'm attaching my current xorg.conf.
Your keyboard section works when I put it in my xorg.conf. I get the US
keyboard layout, CTRL and CAPSLOCK are switched and ALT + SHIFT toggles
between US and GB layout. (I checked the last point with SHIFT + 3,
which produces # or £ depending on the layout.)
I don't get any of that :(
I don't see any keyboard-related error messages or warnings in my Xorg
I do, as above.
log; setxkbmap works normally, too:
$ setxkbmap -print
xkb_keymap {
xkb_keycodes { include xfree86+aliases(qwerty) };
xkb_types { include complete };
xkb_compat{ include complete };
xkb_symbols { include
pc+us+gb:2+group(alt_shift_toggle)+ctrl(swapcaps) };
xkb_geometry { include pc(pc104) };
};
This setxkbmap invocation actually works for me; what doesn't is
something like 'setxkbmap us' or even just 'setxkbmap'.
Maybe we should compare the versions of xkb-related packages and
dependencies. Here is what I have:
$ aptitude -F '%p%30v' search
'~i(input-kbd|xkb-data|xbase-clients|~Rxbase-clients)' | awk '{print $1,$2}'
cpp 4:4.1.2-3
libc6 2.6-3
libfontconfig1 2.4.2-1.2
libfreetype6 2.3.5-1+b1
libfs6 2:1.0.0-4
libgl1-mesa-glx 6.5.2-7
libice6 2:1.0.3-3
libpng12-0 1.2.15~beta5-2
libsm6 2:1.0.3-1+b1
libx11-6 2:1.1.1-1
libxau6 1:1.0.3-2
libxaw7 1:1.0.3-3
libxcursor1 1:1.1.8-2
libxext6 1:1.0.3-2
libxft2 2.1.12-2
libxi6 2:1.1.1-1
libxinerama1 1:1.0.2-1
libxkbfile1 1:1.0.4-1
libxmu6 1:1.0.3-1
libxmuu1 1:1.0.3-1
libxrandr2 2:1.2.1-1
libxrender1 1:0.9.2-1
libxss1 1:1.1.2-1
libxt6 1:1.0.5-3
libxtrap6 1:1.0.0-4
libxtst6 1:1.0.2-1
libxv1 1:1.0.3-1
libxxf86dga1 2:1.0.1-2
libxxf86vm1 1:1.0.1-2
x11-common 1:7.2-5
xbase-clients 1:7.2.ds2-2
xkb-data 1.0~cvs.20070721-1
xserver-xorg-input-kbd 1:1.2.0-1+1.2.1
zlib1g 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-5
I'm attaching mine; the only difference I see is libx11-6; I have
version 2:1.0.3-7 from unstable, and you have 2:1.1.1-1, apparently
from experimental. I'll try yours and see what happens.
Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer
Florian |
Thanks for the troubleshooting,
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Re: [Solved] XKB broken
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 02:52:15 -0400 I wrote: [snipped lots of hair pulling over my mysterious and unreproducible broken xkb system] Solved !!! /var was full. I thought I had told aptitude to remove obsolete packages from the cache, but the option was somehow unselected. 'aptitude auto-clean' freed about 1.6 GB. I seem to remember seeing somewhere that a full var can cause strange problems; I've learned the hard way, and I don't think I'll forget this too quickly. I found, by googling for the bad length in CompatMap message, the answer on a thread on a German forum [0], and very helpfully translated by Google, too. Thanks, Florian. [0] http://www.linuxforen.de/forums/showthread.php?t=210862 Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ndiswrapper build failure
Hi, I'm trying to build ndiswrapper against a self compiled 2.6.22 kernel. It fails as follows: .../modules/ndiswrapper/ndis.c:2825:47: error: macro INIT_WORK passed 3 arguments, but takes just 2 .../modules/ndiswrapper/ndis.c: In function ‘ndis_init’: .../modules/ndiswrapper/ndis.c:2825: error: ‘INIT_WORK’ undeclared (first use in this function) .../modules/ndiswrapper/ndis.c:2825: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once .../modules/ndiswrapper/ndis.c:2825: error: for each function it appears in.) I've googled, but not found anything really helpful. Apparently the kernel code changed recently, from requiring 3 to 2 arguments for INIT_WORK, but I have had no trouble through 2.6.21. Is this a bug? Do I need to change something in my kernel config? Anyone else seeing this? Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [solved] ndiswrapper build failure
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:03:10 -0400 Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm trying to build ndiswrapper against a self compiled 2.6.22 kernel. It fails as follows: .../modules/ndiswrapper/ndis.c:2825:47: error: macro INIT_WORK passed 3 arguments, but takes just 2 .../modules/ndiswrapper/ndis.c: In function ‘ndis_init’: .../modules/ndiswrapper/ndis.c:2825: error: ‘INIT_WORK’ undeclared (first use in this function) .../modules/ndiswrapper/ndis.c:2825: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once .../modules/ndiswrapper/ndis.c:2825: error: for each function it appears in.) Sorry for the noise; I had neglected to update my ndiswrapper source tree to the latest (1.47) version (it was still at 1.43). Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /bin/login listening?
On 29 Jul 2007 13:47:30 GMT Tyler Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007-07-29, Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 12:48:16PM +, Tyler Smith wrote: On 2007-07-29, Jeff D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ran rkhunter again, and then for good measure I aptitude --purged it, reinstalled, and ran again. And then I thought maybe the whole thing was compromised, so I purged it again, installed rkhunter 1.30 from sourceforge, and ran again. And I also ran chkrootkit. In all cases they showed nothing happening, except for warning me that some of my /bin executables had been replaced by scripts -- stuff like egrep, fgrep etc. So perhaps it was just a false positive. I'm going to read up on security stuff now, so maybe I'll have some idea how to proceed the next time. Its tricky. If you have been rooted, you can't trust anything on the system, including aptitude. As for reading, try the package harden-doc. That's what I was thinking. But is there any way a rootkit could interfere with my downloading and compiling from source? I was hoping that doing things 'by hand' would limit the possibilities for compromising the result. In theory, certainly. Your downloading agent is probably invoking system libraries, which may be compromised and substituting bad source. The system may not even be running your download agent at all! Or it may subsequently lie to you and assure you that it's running the downloaded app when it really isn't. Whether all this is at all plausible is a different question. I will look at harden-doc. I'm working through the Linux how-to security quick start at the moment. Thanks, Tyler Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to set network io priority for a process?
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 15:28:17 -0400 Andrew J. Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/29/07, Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm on slow dialup. Downloads of iso's take days. Yet, I still want to be able to browse the internet. I would like to set up something like trickle that will run something but limit its bandwidth so that it lower's its priority. I think the QoS or traffic shaping features of the kernel may be able to do what you want. I have issues similar to Doug's, and I have also wondered whether kernel based traffic shaping is what I need. Since we both use shorewall, which has an interface to the kernel's shaping capabilities, I suppose we ought to read shorewall-doc/html/traffic_shaping.htm Andrew Barr Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to set network io priority for a process?
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 20:11:43 -0400 Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 03:32:44PM -0400, Celejar wrote: I have issues similar to Doug's, and I have also wondered whether kernel based traffic shaping is what I need. Since we both use shorewall, which has an interface to the kernel's shaping capabilities, I suppose we ought to read shorewall-doc/html/traffic_shaping.htm As expected, shorewall can't help in this regard. Why not? Doug. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GTK+ File dialog hangs
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:07:05 +0530 Kumar Appaiah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Debian user, I am having this problem with the GTK+ file dialogs that whenever I try to save a file in any GTK+ based applications, it just keeps doing something and effectively hangs. Is someone else facing the same problem? I am on sid, by the way. libgtk2.0-0 version 2.10.13-1 Thanks! I'm not seeing this when saving a simple file with mousepad (the GTK file dialog does take an annoyingly long time to start up, though, which I believe has been discussed on the list a while back). I'm also on Sid with the same libgtk2.0-0 Kumar -- Kumar Appaiah, Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bridged Network Question
On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 22:45:43 -0400 Wayne Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Douglas Allan Tutty([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 09:47:58PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: Douglas Allan Tutty([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 03:09:48PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: I have been using an old laptop as an Access Point for our laptops to connect to the internet through the main box - modem connection. The Lan (eth0) is bridged with a Netgear WG511U PCMCIA card (ath0) to connect to the gatway computer. I think I understand your setup, although I've never used wireless. I too am on dialup and at one point had a laptop that I connected with a serial cable to a box that then connected to the box that had the modem. The AP laptop -is- connected to the gatway machine via Cat5 cable to the gateway. I set up the access box with NAT at the time by simply installing ipmasq and dnsmasq and setting forwarding. All boxes could access the internet. I never needed bridge and wonder why you're using it. Because I needed a way to connect the wireles laptops to the internet. The AP has the the wireless adapter and an ethernet adapter in it do does what you did with your laptop except it accepts wireless signals in/out. The question is whether you can accomplish this without bridging. I think you can set up both the modem box and the laptop AP as routers. Have the laptop / AP forward its wireless clients' packets to the gateway / modem box, and have that box then forward them to the internet (as you're doing now). Regards Wayne Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any suggestions on good CLI newsreaders?
On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 19:03:57 +0100 John K Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17:39 Mon 06 Aug , Amit Uttamchandani wrote: [snip] News websites such as cnn, news.com, nytimes, etc. They have too many graphics and ads which are not necessary. I guess I'm just looking for a more efficient may to read the news. links2 - no fuss Or just instruct your browser not to load images automatically. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (solved) Re: how to (dis)allow some users from using wireless router?
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 11:02:05 +0100 Liam O'Toole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 09:06:15 + (UTC) Simon Brandmair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please notice, that filtering by mac address doesn't really add any extra security. The mac address can easily be changed with ifconfig, which is IMO default on every Debian machine. While it is true that the MAC address can be spoofed, the intruder would need to have an allowed MAC address at their disposal. It would require some technical savvy to obtain one. Not very much; a scanner will report attached clients' MACs without any real effort by the 'attacker'. Liam Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (solved) Re: how to (dis)allow some users from using wireless router?
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:18:19 +1000 Adrian Levi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/13/07, Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 11:02:05 +0100 Liam O'Toole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 09:06:15 + (UTC) Simon Brandmair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please notice, that filtering by mac address doesn't really add any extra security. The mac address can easily be changed with ifconfig, which is IMO default on every Debian machine. While it is true that the MAC address can be spoofed, the intruder would need to have an allowed MAC address at their disposal. It would require some technical savvy to obtain one. Not very much; a scanner will report attached clients' MACs without any real effort by the 'attacker'. Liam Celejar Would it not be a good idea to use pppoe on the clients and use an ssh tunnel to provide security / authentication? Adrian I don't quite follow you. Can you explain in more detail? Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel compile module compile
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 02:54:55 -0400 (CDT) Orestes Leal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe this modules doesn't work 'yet' with that kernel, one Question, How do you build your kernel? it´s suggested by linux that the sources of the kernel must not be placed in /usr/src for example my kernel sources are in /kernelsource Since best practices are anyway not to build kernels as root, I unpack my kernels into $HOME/someplace. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator
Re: (solved) Re: how to (dis)allow some users from using wireless router?
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:57:45 +1000 Adrian Levi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/13/07, Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:18:19 +1000 Snipped I don't quite follow you. Can you explain in more detail? Celejar Ok, Assuming your wireless router can use an open Linux distribution or your wireless router connects directly to a linux firewall, you can use the following tools to set up proper encryption and authentication between each allowed client and the router. I have never done this but know it's possible. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point-to-Point_Protocol_over_Ethernet Using pppoe the client computer makes a connection to the wireless router, handshaking is done, The client is given an IP address for the pppoe connection. http://www.ssh.com/support/documentation/online/ssh/winhelp/32/Tunneling_Explained.html The ssh tunnel provides proper authentication and protection for the otherwise insecure and sniff able traffic that is broadcast wirelessly. This step also ensures that a non trusted client cannot transfer any data over your network. As I say earlier, I have not done this, I cannot explain any further. Good luck but this Is what I am looking to implement on my network. I'm no networking expert, but I'm afraid I don't understand how this stops untrusted clients from accessing your network. He obviously won't be able to read ssh encrypted traffic, but I think he'll still be able to log on to the router. Adrian Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim worked; had to upgrade to exim4, which, for me, doesn't work
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 18:57:13 -0600 p [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on january 2, 2007, i replaced an aging hard drive, running debian potato. for the 3+ years of running potato, i used mutt (exim and fetchmail) to handle email. ever since (jan. 2, '07), when i upgraded to sarge, i have not been able to configure exim4 (correctly), as when i fetchmail, open mutt, and look at the messages in /var/mail/me, i get the error message, mail delivery failed, for each email. when open an email, i see this refernce to localhost: the following address(es) failed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unroutable address (if i could get it to recognize my email address as: pplaw [at] pcisys.net, instead of as, [EMAIL PROTECTED], then i think it would work. that's where i'm stuck.) my googling unroutable address for exim4 entries and reading the exim4-doc-html file(s) lead me to believe that i may have to learn how to write code in order to have a realistic chance of fig- uring out how exim4 (version 4.63-17) needs to be setup. on the other hand, since it's been 8 months, and counting, it doesn't look like i'm going to be able to figure out exim4: 1. is there a way to use mutt and fetchmail without setting up exim4? (i pop3 my email from my isp.); Exim is a MTA. You need one to send mail, but there are many choices, some much simpler than exim. 'apt-cache search mta'. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ndiswrapper and essids
[I'm cc'ng Kel Modderman, the Debian maintainer of ndiswrapper and a member of the Debian Madwifi team, who has been helpful to me in the past with wireless issues] I recently had quite a frustrating time debugging a sudden ndiswsrapper failure. No errors, but the card (a Broadcom 4318 Air Force One) stubbornly refused to work. Earlier the same day, it had worked fine on my home network, and now it wouldn't work on a public hot spot, although the last time I had tried the hot spot, several weeks earlier, it had worked fine. By carefully following the ndiswrapper troubleshooting guide [0], I eventually solved the problem; the card now required the essid to be manually set before it would associate. The odd thing is that this did not used to be the case; I hadn't experienced the problem before because the card used to have the MS Windows-ish behavior of associating with an open AP automatically. I see this even now with kernel 2.6.21 / ndiswrapper 1.43, while kernel 2.6.22 / ndiswrapper 1.47 seems to require a manual setting of the essid, as above. Is this a bug, a feature or a quirk of my setup? I note that my Atheros PCMCIA card (driven by madwifi) still associates automatically, while the Broadcom one doesn't with the 2.6.22 / 1.47 combination, and I also notice that the Broadcom doesn't even with 2.6.21 when using the bcm43xx native driver. [0] http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,troubleshooting/ Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: live Debian on USB stick
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:37:23 -0600 Aenn Seidhe Priest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Feather Linux is a slim version of Knoppix. It can boot off a USB drive with a little preparation. http://featherlinux.berlios.de/download.htm And don't forget grml-small [0], which, IIUC, is the most Debian-ish of the small LiveCDs. [0] http://grml.org/faq/#grmlsmall Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Google checking my system?
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:08:13 +0200 Krzysztof Lubański [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 14:39 -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: I have noticed recently, while watching iptraf, that I am getting connections from various google addresses. [...] This happen on 4 different network boxen, while they have iceweasel running, and sitting on our networks local homepage. It may have something to do with Firefox's new anti-phishing functionality which fetches lists of phishing sites from Google: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/phishing-protection/ One guy actually gets pissed about it here: http://discuss.extremetech.com/forums/1004384653/ShowThread.aspx He says the connections are still being made even after disabling the forgery protection. Nasty if it's true. I have noticed for a while that as I type into the IW / FF Google search box, a drop down list of suggestions (separate from a list of my previous searches) appears. I don't get the impression that the browser is downloading it on the fly, so when is that being pulled in? Is that included in the application installation, or is it also something the browser is doing on its own? Krzysztof Lubanski Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Google's search term completion [WAS] Re: Google checking my system?
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:51:43 +0300 Atis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/08/07, Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have noticed for a while that as I type into the IW / FF Google search box, a drop down list of suggestions (separate from a list of my previous searches) appears. I don't get the impression that the browser is downloading it on the fly, so when is that being pulled in? Is that included in the application installation, or is it also something the browser is doing on its own? This is very cool thing, they are downloaded real-time. It also includes cool google's calculator, that knows a bunch of units, etc.. Some examples - try typing them in search bar. 2+2 15inch in cm sqrt(13)+cos(pi) Thanks! Regards, Atis Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Google's search term completion [WAS] Re: Google checking my system?
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:11:08 +0300 Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/08/07, Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have noticed for a while that as I type into the IW / FF Google search box, a drop down list of suggestions (separate from a list of my previous searches) appears. I don't get the impression that the browser is downloading it on the fly, so when is that being pulled in? Is that included in the application installation, or is it also something the browser is doing on its own? Krzysztof Lubanski It's AJAX, it's done in real time as you type. AJAX is also used in Gmail, and Gmail will periodically check for new mail without refreshing the page. That's another potential source of the connections. For more on AJAX: http://what-is-what.com/what_is/ajax.html For more on Gmail: http://what-is-what.com/what_is/gmail.html Thanks. I see that when the network is down, I don't get suggestions, so you're apparently correct, but the results are apparently cached, since any list that comes up while the network is up also comes up after I take it down. Dotan Cohen Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: entry in /etc/apt/sources.list for vlc
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 09:08:23 -0700 PETER EASTHOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Debian users, Is there an entry for sources.list to allow apt to get a package from an older or newer distribution when it is absent from the distribution installed. Specifically, I have Lenny on a machine and find that vlc is not available. Would be convenient for apt to automatically revert to etch. Thanks, Peter E. I think you want apt-pinning. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Source of Debian wisdom
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 14:00:22 -0800 Ken Irving [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 03:31:19PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote: [snip] I only use apt-get when I need to install from the source (which aptitude cannot do). I wonder why that is; the source packages are independent of binary ones. As raju and others have pointed out on the list, aptitude apparently has no equivalent to apt-get's 'source' and 'build-dep' commands. [snip] Ken -- Ken Irving, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exim4 and authentication
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:21:39 +0200 Mauro Sacchetto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My new provider requests authentication to send mail, so I found a problem with exim4 / mutt. For the port to send mail is 587, I put the line nel configurare exim4 smtp.tele2.it::587 configuring exim4. In in /etc/exim4/passwd.client I put: smtp.tele2.it:*login*:*password* and in /etc/exim4/exim4.cong.templates I put: AUTH_CLIENT_ALLOW_NOTLS_PASSWORDS = 1 But in any case I'm not able to send mail (while I receive regularly them by fetchmail/procmail. Is there anything wrong or missing? Please post the exim log (/var/log/exim/mainlog). Thanx! M. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Etch compatible wireless PCI card recommendations
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:10:56 +0200 Gyorgy Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glen Yu írta: Hi everyone, I'm going to be housemates with a co-worker of mine and he uses an Apple wireless router which allows him to send songs to his speakers via iTunes. Anyhow, the router has no ethernet ports so I'm going to need to get a wireless PCI card for my PC. I was just wondering if anyone here uses wireless PCI and what's good to use with Debian Etch. I was looking at the D-Link WDA-2320 RangeBooster G Desktop Adapter -- does anyone have problems with that? If you have any recommendations on PCI or even USB wireless adapters that will work well with Debian Etch, please let me know. Thanks! Cheers, -Glen Hello, I can recommend you: - SiS163u based wifi devices (for example: KWG-3000 USB 2.0 adapter) - ndiswrapper + win32 driver - Broadcom based devices (I'm using Broadcom 4306 with the free bcm43xx driver, this driver can only work at 11 mbit/s, but ndiswrapper+win32 driver gives 54 mbps). There two chips were extensively used by me under Linux. I'm using Broadcom 4306 (miniPCI in a laptop) now, without errors. Any Atheros-based PCI or PCMCIA card (NOT USB). My laptop has a Broadcom 4318; it works with the native (reverse-engineered) bcm43xx driver and (with what feels like better performance) ndiswrapper, but I still prefer Atheros hardware. Madwifi was designed with the company's cooperation, not via reverse-engineering, it has excellent documentation, and it works very well. [You do have to tolerate a non-free HAL]. I've used a Trendware TEW-443PI for years with excellent results, and more recently an Airnet card with no complaints (about the hardware; the company failed to honor a rebate submission). Just look for cards advertising 108MB; you don't have to use that Atheros proprietary extension to the 802.11g standard, but it's a trivial and foolproof way of locating Atheros gear. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator
Re: Exim4 and authentication
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 22:33:15 +0200 Mauro Sacchetto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Celejar wrote: Please post the exim log (/var/log/exim/mainlog). debian:~# cat /var/log/exim4/mainlog 2007-08-22 22:27:59 1INwo3-0002Kf-DI = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=samiel P=local S=770 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-08-22 22:27:59 1INwo3-0002Kf-DI == [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-53): retry time not reached for any host Is that the entire (relevant part of the) log? Try (as root) 'exim -qff' to force exim to start a queue runner and check the log. Thanx! M. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exim4 and authentication
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 00:29:41 +0200 Mauro Sacchetto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Celejar wrote: Is that the entire (relevant part of the) log? Yes! Try (as root) 'exim -qff' to force exim to start a queue runner and check the log. 2007-08-24 00:22:45 1IOL4e-0003NO-Nl == [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp defer (-53): retry time not reached for any host 2007-08-24 00:26:32 Start queue run: pid=13023 -qff 2007-08-24 00:26:32 1INp06-00012L-MG mailgw.swip.net [212.247.156.1] No route to host 2007-08-24 00:26:32 1INp06-00012L-MG == [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp defer (113): No route to host 2007-08-24 00:26:36 1IOL4e-0003NO-Nl mailgw.swip.net [212.247.156.1] No route to host 2007-08-24 00:26:36 1IOL4e-0003NO-Nl == [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp defer (113): No route to host 2007-08-24 00:26:39 1INp2U-0001Fb-S6 smtp.aliceposta.it [85.33.2.53] No route to host 2007-08-24 00:26:39 1INp2U-0001Fb-S6 == [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp defer (113): No route to host 2007-08-24 00:26:40 1INpzH-0001lT-1n mailgw.swip.net [212.247.156.1] No route to host 2007-08-24 00:26:40 1INpzH-0001lT-1n == [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp defer (113): No route to host What do u deduce from this? Take a look at this (the first google hit for 'exim no route to host'): http://lists.exim.org/lurker/message/20030714.143310.41a10181.html Apparently this could be a TCP level error. What do you get for 'telnet mailgw.swip.net 25' ? [Is the smarthost listening on port 25? What port did you tell exim to contact the smarthost on?] Thanx! M. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good fdisk Practices
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:14:42 -0700 David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 24, 2007, at 10:24 AM, Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote: If you use LVM you're stuck with a separate, non-LVM /boot partition AFAIK. Or is this outated info? I think that's true. I don't usually make the root filesystem an LVM volume, anyway. In most distributions it's quite small and making it a normal partition makes some recovery scenarios easier -- it's just one less thing that has to work for the system to boot into single user mode. I believe it is actually outdated information; GRUB apparently supports LVM these days: http://grub.enbug.org/LVMandRAID Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good fdisk Practices
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:51:14 -0400 Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All my drives have 2 partitions: a /boot (with ext2 or ext3) of about 100MB and the rest is an partition dedicated to LVM. The reason for the separate /boot is that GRUB does not know how to read files from LVM volumes, so I need to load the kernel and initrd files from an ext[23]. Everything else Apparently no longer true, as I pointed out in another message in this thread. Stefan Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wireless card for emachine?
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:48:09 -0400 Thomas H. George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been given an emachine M5310 laptop with a dead battery and am considering trying to convert it to a debian etch laptop. I can boot it with a GRML cd and lsdev reports wifi0 when an Activa wifi card is plugged in. I tried using wlanconfig but have not been able to specify a static IP address to access my home network. The machine is known to contain its own wifi and searches for dynamic addresses when I boot it with a DebianLive Gnome cd. but Debain/apps/system/network demands a root password and wont accept sudo bash so I can't set an assigned static IP address. Is the emachine worth the effort? A new battery will set me back $95. Would I also need to purchase another Linux compatible wifi card? The first question is, what wireless card is in the machine? Do lspci, and find the entry corresponding to the wireless card. Tom George Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fstab and removable usb drives
Hi, I'm experimenting with fstab lines to streamline mounting my removable usb drives (flash and HDD). I have tried 'UUID-', 'LABEL-', and '/dev/disk/by-label/', but with any of these the system refuses to boot without manual intervention when the drive isn't attached (I am told to hit ctrl-D and something about maintenance mode). This occurs even when I set 'noauto'. Am I missing something, or are such fstab lines really illegal for setups where the volume may not be attached at boot? Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fstab and removable usb drives
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:51:04 -0700 (PDT) Jeff D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Celejar wrote: Hi, I'm experimenting with fstab lines to streamline mounting my removable usb drives (flash and HDD). I have tried 'UUID-', 'LABEL-', and '/dev/disk/by-label/', but with any of these the system refuses to boot without manual intervention when the drive isn't attached (I am told to hit ctrl-D and something about maintenance mode). This occurs even when I set 'noauto'. Am I missing something, or are such fstab lines really illegal for setups where the volume may not be attached at boot? Celejar -- Hm, noauto should skip it at boot. On one of my laptops I have this: /dev/disk/by-id/xx /mnt/flash vfat user,noauto 0 0 Boots up just fine.. Thanks; I don't know what could be different about my setup (I'm running uptodate Sid), but it doesn't work for me, as above. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[solved] Re: fstab and removable usb drives
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:51:04 -0700 (PDT) Jeff D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Celejar wrote: Hi, I'm experimenting with fstab lines to streamline mounting my removable usb drives (flash and HDD). I have tried 'UUID-', 'LABEL-', and '/dev/disk/by-label/', but with any of these the system refuses to boot without manual intervention when the drive isn't attached (I am told to hit ctrl-D and something about maintenance mode). This occurs even when I set 'noauto'. Am I missing something, or are such fstab lines really illegal for setups where the volume may not be attached at boot? Celejar -- Hm, noauto should skip it at boot. On one of my laptops I have this: /dev/disk/by-id/xx /mnt/flash vfat user,noauto 0 0 Boots up just fine.. Well, with a little careful digging I found the problem. The error was fsck related; /etc/init.d/checkfs.sh runs 'fsck -C -R -A -a'. The '-A' option tells fsck to check all filesystems in fstab that don't have 0 in the last field. I had been setting mine to 2 as the installer did for the system's fixed drives; you have it set to 0. I suppose that I'll just have use 0 and perhaps remember to do a manual fsck periodically. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fstab and removable drives
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 7:18:25 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My ISP has improved my email to the point that I cannot post to newsgroups at all and even email is a struggle. The error message you describe is from fsck, which fails when trying to check the disconnected drive. The sixth (and last) field in your fstab entry must be zero. From man fstab: The sixth field, (fs_passno), is used by the fsck(8) program to determine the order in which filesystem checks are done at reboot time. ... If the sixth field is not present or zero, a value of zero is returned and fsck will assume that the filesystem does not need to be checked. Hope this helps! It does; thanks very much. I arrived at the same realization independently, hence my other message. Roby Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fstab and removable usb drives
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 00:44:29 +0100 Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:30:56 -0400 Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm experimenting with fstab lines to streamline mounting my removable usb drives (flash and HDD). I have tried 'UUID-', 'LABEL-', and '/dev/disk/by-label/', but with any of these the system refuses to boot without manual intervention when the drive isn't attached (I am told to hit ctrl-D and something about maintenance mode). This occurs even when I set 'noauto'. Am I missing something, or are such fstab lines really illegal for setups where the volume may not be attached at boot? I use what's below in fstab for manually mounting any USB device that I attach after booting up. /dev/sda1 /media/removable auto rw,noauto,user,exec,users 0 0 Be aware that this is only for the first USB drive you connect, any additional ones connected up after the first one will have to be /dev/sdb1 and so on. Change /media/removable to the mount point you want. I have no issues with booting my system with the above, nor do I have issues with mounting USB devices. Thanks. The problem was my non-zero last field, as per my other posts. BTW, mounting by label / UUID is often a better idea, especially for removable storage, since it ensures consistency of mount points even when the connection order varies. This may not be important to you, but it is to many. Graham Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: i686 Port
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:06:10 +0100 (BST) Richard Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering why debian doesn't have a port of packages optimised for i686, I realise they have support for i386, which obviously incudes everything from an intel 386 to the latest and greatest intel and amd processors (running in 32bit), ultimatley the i686 already has 'support' however I just thought it would be great if a port was available where the packages had been compiled specifically for i686 as I have noticed that when I use i686 optimised distro's such as arch, or even slackware there is a noticable performance difference. I'm no expert, but I believe the thinking is that most of the processor dependent code is in libc6, for which we do have the -i686 version, and the kernel, which also comes in -686 flavors. Richard Thompson Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: Re: i686 Port]
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:58:56 +0100 (BST) Richard Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original Message Subject: Re: i686 Port From:Richard Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Tue, August 28, 2007 8:54 pm To: Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:06:10 +0100 (BST) Richard Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering why debian doesn't have a port of packages optimised for i686, I realise they have support for i386, which obviously incudes everything from an intel 386 to the latest and greatest intel and amd processors (running in 32bit), ultimatley the i686 already has 'support' however I just thought it would be great if a port was available where the packages had been compiled specifically for i686 as I have noticed that when I use i686 optimised distro's such as arch, or even slackware there is a noticable performance difference. I'm no expert, but I believe the thinking is that most of the processor dependent code is in libc6, for which we do have the -i686 version, and the kernel, which also comes in -686 flavors. Richard Thompson Celejar Yes, I expect you are right about that, but there are other things such as services which, if they were i686 optimised I would expect to see a What do you mean by services? Is there userland (outside the kernel) TCP/IP networking code which is 686 specific? performance increase, I am also no expert, I was just jealous of arch's speed, and also suprisingly slackware's speed, which would suggest they've got something right Are you sure that you're comparing apples to apples? Are you running the exact same DE, general system load, daemons, etc.? I'm not doubting you, I'm just trying to nail down the comparison precisely. Richard Thompson Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: question about kernel source packages
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:15:08 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Mumia W.. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 08/28/2007 12:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I notice there is a source package for the kernel and a package of debian patches. Has the kernel source already been patched or would one need to patch it with all of the included debian patches when building a custom kernel? It's already patched. Doublechecking, you are absolutely positive? I believe he's correct. From the description of linux-patch-debian-2.6.22: Description: Debian patches to version 2.6.22 of the Linux kernel This package includes the patches used to produce the prepackaged linux-source-2.6.22 package, as well as architecture-specific patches. Note that these patches do NOT apply against a pristine Linux 2.6.22 kernel but only against the kernel tarball linux-2.6_2.6.22.orig.tar.gz from the Debian archive. So the prepackaged kernel source has already been patched. The patch has been applied against the mentioned Debian tarball. All this is AFAICT. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WYSIWYG editor
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:49:03 -0500 Sam Leon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Loeghmon T. Nejad wrote: What do you recommend as a good, practical WYSIWYG editor for creating simple web pages, with mostly text, some graphics and pdf, for debian Lenny please? Thanks. -- Regards, I would like to know too. I think us html noobs using linux are just out of luck :( Quanta plus has a very crappy one that I have been using though. Sam This gets asked here periodically; I'm not sure if there's a really good WYSIWYG solution. Try this thread: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/01/msg02822.html Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fstab and removable usb drives
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:05:08 +0100 Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:23:21 -0400 Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks. The problem was my non-zero last field, as per my other posts. BTW, mounting by label / UUID is often a better idea, especially for removable storage, since it ensures consistency of mount points even when the connection order varies. This may not be important to you, but it is to many. Yes, you're right. I haven't really bothered with UUID, simply because I've never been in a position where I've had to connect two removable storage devices at the same time, so haven't really had the need for it... plus I'm lazy and stuck in an old routine. ;) I have a USB HDD which I use for backup, and the backup script (rsnapshot) uses paths listed in its config files, so I need to be sure that the drive is always in the same place, since I also have flash drives which I use for sneakernet purposes. I haven't yet had a problem, but I like knowing that I'm doing things 'right' ... Glad your issue is resolved. Thanks. Graham Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: Re: i686 Port]
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:53:22 +0100 (BST) Richard Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snipped discussion about the benefit of 686 optimization of typical applications] Userspace services daemons etc, like any program will perform better on an i686 processor if they are i686 optimised :-) But again, most of the low level code the daemons will be running will be either in the kernel or libc, IIUC. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Shut down or leave on?
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:22:43 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] It does save electricity and if you are concerned about system maintenannce then all you need to do is ensure that anacron is installed and running. anacron will run the maintenance task which have been missed after bootup. Unless you have a very old machine you will probably not even notice. I've also been wondering about system maintenance on my laptop. To the extent that I grok the (default) anacron / cron interplay, anacron will run daily all the scripts in /etc/cron.daily, weekly all the scripts in /etc/cron.weekly and monthly all the scripts in /etc/cron.monthly. It won't, AFAICT, run stuff from ordinary crontabs, such as /etc/crontab or the files in /etc/cron.d. I use rsnapshot, which supplies a cron file in /etc/cron.d, which anacron apparently won't run. I suppose one must make sure that all one's cron stuff is in the directories that anacron runs, or perhaps rewrite /etc/anacrontab. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
USB Hard Drive problems
descriptor read/64, error -71 Aug 28 22:38:49 lizzie kernel: usb 5-7: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 10 Aug 28 22:38:50 lizzie kernel: usb 5-7: device descriptor read/64, error -71 Aug 28 22:38:50 lizzie kernel: usb 5-7: device descriptor read/64, error -71 Aug 28 22:38:50 lizzie kernel: usb 5-7: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 11 Aug 28 22:38:50 lizzie kernel: usb 5-7: device not accepting address 11, error -71 Aug 28 22:38:50 lizzie kernel: usb 5-7: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 12 Aug 28 22:38:51 lizzie kernel: usb 5-7: device not accepting address 12, error -71 [snip] Aug 28 22:39:27 lizzie kernel: scsi 1:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device Aug 28 22:39:50 lizzie last message repeated 4 times Aug 28 22:51:19 lizzie -- MARK -- Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fstab and removable usb drives
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 10:35:16 +0200 Jörg-Volker Peetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For removable media take a look at package pmount. Thanks. I do use pmount. Regards, Jörg-Volker. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator
Re: USB Hard Drive problems
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 03:40:17 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/28/07 22:15, Celejar wrote: Hi, I recently purchased a factory recertified Fantom Drives 120 GB USB drive. I have just begun to use it, and I'm experiencing major headaches. Every now and then (I don't see a triggering condition or chronological pattern, but I see the problem several times a day) the drive goes offline. Sometimes remounting fixes it, but at least twice (including the period after the second incident seen below in the log) it required power cycling. One of those times its status light went red; usually it stays its normal blue, including during and after the second incident below. I don't know much about HDDs; I'm including copious syslog extracts from the last couple of failures. Is this a hardware problem? Is there anything I can do? Seems to me you've got a bad drive. The red light is a bad sign. Usually it stays blue, but barring any other suggestions, I'm going to have to assume it's bad and see if I can RMA it. [snipped logs] Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
exim lost my smarthost port number
Hi, I use exim on Sid to forward my outgoing mail to Gmail's smtp server as a smarthost. I had exim configured to forward to 'smtp.google.gom::587', and the setup had been working fine for a while. Today I noticed that mail wasn't getting through, and I saw that exim had somehow 'forgotten' the port number and was apparently trying on the default port 25. Reconfiguring exim (through debconf) solved the problem. Has anyone else seen something like this? I don't actually know how long this has been happening, since most of my outgoing mail is sent by Sylpheed. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vdrift package
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:32:56 +0200 Rody [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: since the 40r1 release debian has deleted the vdrift package from their repo's. does anyone still have these packages for me to download or know how i can recreate te deb file from my installed version? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snapshot.debian.net/ Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to bind keys to commands, without requiring login?
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:27:56 +0530 Masatran, R. Deepak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to bind some keys to commands. I can do this using my window manager, but I want it to work even if (1) Nobody is logged in OR if (2) the screen is locked with a screen-saver. I am using Debian 4.0, with GDM, and Sawfish. Have you tried the standard 'xbindkeys'? Masatran, R. Deepak http://research.iiit.ac.in/~masatran/ Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:03:17 -0400 Hal Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 30 August 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: On 08/30/07 14:37, Hal Vaughan wrote: [snip] While it's just a small, niggling detail and may be just semantics, there is a true root account on Ubuntu that can be used the same as a root account on any Debian release. The only difference is it doesn't have a password on setup. You've GOT to be kidding... Right? Please? On Debian you enter the root pw at setup. You don't on Ubuntu, but when I setup a new Ubuntu system, all I do is create a root password w/ sudo and from then on it works like any other system with a root account. Is that so surprising, or did I miss something? I think that Ron understands that the root account on Ubuntu is accessible by anyone without entering a password; I seem to recall (from posts to this list) that actually no one can access the Ubuntu root account until a password has been set for it. Hal Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aptitude behaving strangely
Hi, My aptitude (uptodate Sid) has been behaving rather strangely lately. When doing updates, it seems to always hang for long periods of time while displaying the line: 99% [5 Packages 4308] or similar. No processor, network or HDD usage seems to be occurring. It subsequently generally finishes okay, although I'm not sure it is always completing the update successfully (all packages I have manually checked against p.d.o seem to be at the latest version, but I haven't been very systematic about it). It also seems to be overall more sluggish and erratic. I know this is very vague and unhelpful, but I was just wondering if anyone has been seeing anything like this. I've tried playing with sources.list, but I get similar results no matter which mirror I use (I've only tried a few), and even with apt-get. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to bind keys to commands, without requiring login?
On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 02:37:58 +0530 Masatran, R. Deepak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-08-30 On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:27:56 +0530 Masatran, R. Deepak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to bind some keys to commands. I can do this using my window manager, but I want it to work even if (1) Nobody is logged in OR if (2) the screen is locked with a screen-saver. I am using Debian 4.0, with GDM, and Sawfish. Have you tried the standard 'xbindkeys'? I tried it, but how can I make it work in spite of the screen-saver? Sorry, it was just a guess; I don't use a screensaver or DM. Masatran, R. Deepak http://research.iiit.ac.in/~masatran/ Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Aptitude behaving strangely
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:46:15 -0400 Wayne Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Celejar([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: Hi, My aptitude (uptodate Sid) has been behaving rather strangely lately. When doing updates, it seems to always hang for long periods of time while displaying the line: 99% [5 Packages 4308] or similar. No processor, network or HDD usage seems to be occurring. It subsequently generally finishes okay, although I'm not sure it is always completing the update successfully (all packages I have manually checked against p.d.o seem to be at the latest version, but I haven't been very systematic about it). It also seems to be overall more sluggish and erratic. I know this is very vague and unhelpful, but I was just wondering if anyone has been seeing anything like this. I've tried playing with sources.list, but I get similar results no matter which mirror I use (I've only tried a few), and even with apt-get. Yes. Started yesterday, here. I tried again then morning and it was still hanging at 12 PM EST when I finally was able to finish the upgrade. Wayne I don't seem to have it quite as bad as you; my updates often do finish (I sometimes kill them and just try again) after mysteriously hanging for a couple of minutes. Today I did a (possibly) successful one and pulled in about 64MB of upgrades. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A sane way to merge config file differences during package installation?
On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 23:01:46 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/02/07 04:55, Richard Hartmann wrote: Everyone will know a message like this: Configuration file `/etc/sysctl.conf' == Modified (by you or by a script) since installation. == Package distributor has shipped an updated version. What would you like to do about it ? Your options are: Y or I : install the package maintainer's version N or O : keep your currently-installed version D : show the differences between the versions Z : background this process to examine the situation The default action is to keep your current version. *** sysctl.conf (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ? What I would want is something like M: merge files interactively which would then call vimdiff, probably via $DIFF_EDITOR or some other variable if something like it does already exist. Is anyone aware of any such solution or has good suggestions on custom-creating it? Great idea! File a wishlist bug against debconf. There was a sub-thread about this back in March: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/03/msg02895.html Andrei said that there was work in progress for a merge option. Ron Johnson, Jr. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: package l 2.6.21-2-486 #1 Wed Jul 11 03:17:09 UTC 2007 i686 Lenny printing bug
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 01:14:05 +1000 Rod Lovett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi what am I doing wrong, how on earth can I send ths bug to debian so they will accept and understand and perhaps even act on it? 4x rejections with Your message didn't have a Package: line at the start (in the pseudo-header following the real mail header), or didn't have a pseudo-header at all. Your message has been filed under junk but otherwise ignored. This makes it much harder for us to categorise and deal with your problem report. Please _resubmit_ your report to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and tell us which package the report is on. For help, check out http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting. How are you sending the bug? Are you using reportbug? Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Aptitude behaving strangely
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 11:31:06 -0400 Wayne Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Celejar([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:46:15 -0400 Wayne Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Celejar([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: Hi, My aptitude (uptodate Sid) has been behaving rather strangely lately. When doing updates, it seems to always hang for long periods of time while displaying the line: 99% [5 Packages 4308] or similar. No processor, network or HDD usage seems to be occurring. --snip-- Yes. Started yesterday, here. I tried again then morning and it was still hanging at 12 PM EST when I finally was able to finish the upgrade. Wayne I don't seem to have it quite as bad as you; my updates often do finish (I sometimes kill them and just try again) after mysteriously hanging for a couple of minutes. Today I did a (possibly) successful one and pulled in about 64MB of upgrades. Did a testing and etch upgrade yesterday and overnight. Both completed in about the normal time, for me. Seems the problem (?) has been fixed. /* cross fingers */ I had the morning's successful update / upgrade, but just now experienced the strange hang on the 'Packages' line. It did clear up and complete within a couple of minutes, though. Wayne Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Shibboleths [WAS] Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:34:30 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/04/07 16:15, Kent West wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Blatant disregard of reality is a bright, shiny shibboleth that you are a student. Don't believe I've ever heard the term used that way before. I rather like it. But I suspect few today would know the etymology. But just doing a google, I find it's not an uncommon use of the word. Bummer; that just means I'm less literate than I thought. Fear not: I just today picked up that usage. Come on, Ron, that's the original, Biblical sense [0]. And we know you had a good religious education, as you've mentioned on the list ... [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibboleth#Origin Ron Johnson, Jr. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Starting MTA: why does it take so long?
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:13:02 +0200 Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have several desktop systems, and regadless of whether I leave exim4 unconfigured, or setup for local system use only, it takes quite a while to start on boot. I don't really know what the MTA is supposed to do on a laptop or desktop system, but I've read that it shouldn't be uninstallted. Is this really the case? It shouldn't be uninstalled since many daemons and system management tasks report via email, and they expect to find an MTA to send the mail with. If your system isn't connected to the internet on boot, have you configured minimal-dns? From 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config': In normal mode of operation Exim does DNS lookups at startup, and when │ │ receiving or delivering messages. This is for logging purposes and │ │ allows keeping down the number of hard-coded values in the │ │ configuration. │ │ │ │ If this system does not have a DNS full service resolver available at │ │ all times (for example if its Internet access is a dial-up line using │ │ dial-on-demand), this might have unwanted consequences. For example, │ │ starting up Exim or running the queue (even with no messages waiting) │ │ might trigger a costly dial-up-event. │ │ │ │ This option should be selected if this system is using Dial-on-Demand. │ │ If it has always-on Internet access, this option should be disabled. Thanks for any suggestions, Chris Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail filters (was Re: (solved) Re: why sarge is so noisy)
On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 17:33:13 +0200 David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use gmail, and I have a mail filter which says 'if the to contains debian.org, then tag with debian and bypass the inbox'. Filters like that make your mail much more manageable :-) This is a flawed strategy, because debian-user@lists.debian.org might be in the CC list. Or even be Bcc'd. Better (perfect, actually) to filter on List-Id: debian-user.lists.debian.org This is a flawed strategy, because debian-user@lists.debian.org might be in the CC list. Or even be Bcc'd. Better (perfect, actually) to filter on List-Id: debian-user.lists.debian.org Thanks for the information. Gmail can't filter on List-Id AFAICT, but it does have a Has the words option, and putting debian-user.lists.debian.org there works. Gmail To also matches CC, but not BCC. Have actually had a few of the latter in my main inbox (don't know how they expected replies to get back to the list) so your suggestion will help there :-) I use Gmail's free POP service, and do filtering on the client (Sylpheed) side. David. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sex spam again on the list
On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 22:08:17 +0200 Martin Zobel-Helas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] A thing every user can do is to bounce spam delivered to the lists to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best you use mutt's bounce-function or Kmails redirect function for that, so the headers don't get modified, so we can directly us that emails to train our filters to do better. The Debian m-l page [0] contains only the following: Many of the rules we use to block spammers and their messages have been reported to us by subscribers. If you wish to help us reduce the amount of spam even more, your help is very much appreciated. To report spam properly, you need to do the following: * Find a copy of the message at the list archives. * Find a SpamAssassin rule or a procmail expression to catch this type of spam. Keep in mind that this rule will be applied against all lists, and that we want to keep the false positives to a minimum. * Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the exact URL of the message, and the said filter rule, if possible. Why isn't Martin's suggestion mentioned? Martin, having his listmaster's hat on and being VERY tired, as the listmasters had a quite productive weekend with nearly up to no sleep at all. Thanks, Martin, for all the work on our behalf! [0] http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Real problem with debian user is NOT spam, but that posts don' t get posted.
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:41:15 - J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, if you want to get rid of spam, read the debian user email list with gmail and all the spam goes to a junk folder. Not so. I use Gmail and I have been seeing quite a bit of spam in the last few days. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: another script query (perl?)
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 15:04:50 +0100
Richard Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, all you script wizards.
I thought this would be easy, but I haven't found anything to crib
from...
I need a script to read a text file (actually tex) and parse lines of a
table that may or may not span newline characters in the file.
Basically, there are lines of the form
{some text} {some more text} {text c} {text d} \\
where the braces are only for clarity and do not occur in the files, and
where the bits of text may include whitespace which may include newline
characters. There may also be escaped ampersands in the text ('\'), and
the text fragments may be empty.
I suspect perl may be the way forward. I need to be able to read each
file, parse each set of three ampersands with a double backslash
breaking it into four substrings, manipulate the substrings and write
the file anew. A typical manipulation will be to take text c and copy
it to text d. I shall also try to strip leading and trailing whitespace
to tidy up the file.
Any and all pointers will be gratefully received!
Take a look at the perl Text::ParseWords module 'man
text::parsewords'). It may do what you want, depending on your needs
with respect to quoting and escaping.
richard
Celejar
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Re: debian oriented laptot suggestions
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:50:15 + (GMT) Donald Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My first question would be: Have you looked at any of the suppliers who sell with Debian preinstalled? I would definitely get a laptop/ notebook with an Nvidia graphics card. Nvidia support is excellent. ATI support (even with proprietary drivers) is not so great. I believe that Intel graphics are also well supported (my laptop has a 945GM; it works fine, but I haven't tried to do anything particularly challenging with it). Look at the internal wireless card. It's possible to get a broadcom card working but they don't work well. I've seen My Acer Aspire's (3690-2672) Broadcom 4318 does, indeed, not work with the native bcm43xx (I haven't yet tried the next generation b43 code yet) as well as I would like [0], but it works flawlessly under ndiswrapper. Note that in the thread referenced above, there's a discussion about an Acer screen flicker problem that can crop up in various contexts laptops with builtin Atheros chipset cards. Atheros, Orinoco, and Prism cards are great. However, I personally prefer wireless pcmcia cards with external antenna connectors su as Ubiquity. Atheros is certainly great (I haven't used the other two), although you'll have to accept the non-free HAL. BTW, you might consider posting questions like this on debian-laptop. [0] https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/bcm43xx-dev/2007-September/005769.html Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian oriented laptot suggestions
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 10:57:38 +0100 Richard Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 11:02:33AM +0200, Raffaele Morelli wrote: Thanx for your replies. After all, it seems that Thinkpad (IBM or Lenovo) is a good choice. As suggested by Celejar I am now going to ask on debian-laptop for more specific trouble about sound cards as my first goal is to get sound system perfectly working. Good Luck! All my laptops have been silent. But otherwise, all have run debian out of the box (not counting winmodems of course), old Thinkpads, old Dell, and even a new Acer Aspire. And the thinkpad keyboard puts all others in the shade. On my Acer Aspire (3690-2672), sound works out of the box. From lspci: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02) Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
