installing debian packages to an other fs as root

1997-08-09 Thread Martin Steigerwald
like a way to get it to boot from a rescue discs, but I dont think that this is possible as I have to get the packages from the internet cause the cd-rom drive is broken and I have only Debian 1.2 CD. -- |_| _ |o _ _ Martin Steigerwald | |(/_||(_)_ http://home.pages.de/~helios

dpkg from rescue disc

1997-08-11 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi! Is it possible to run dpkg from a system only booted by an rescue disc. If that libreadline package is still on the harddisc I then might be able to fix my system really easily. -- |_| _ |o _ _ Martin Steigerwald | |(/_||(_)_ http://home.pages.de/~helios -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM

system rescued, some quirks left

1997-08-15 Thread Martin Steigerwald
not here, I tried in a shell. I re-installed all base packages with dpkg and there a no dependency problems anymore. In which package can I find the above two commands? -- |_| _ |o _ _ Martin Steigerwald | |(/_||(_)_ http://home.pages.de/~helios -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail

Re: kernel for m68k 68060 amiga 4000 tower ?

1997-08-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
or installed the old files (but I dont want to redownload base13.tgz all again.) -- |_| _ |o _ _ Martin Steigerwald | |(/_||(_)_ http://home.pages.de/~helios -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

StarOffice installation

1997-08-26 Thread Martin Steigerwald
. That might stop swapping. -- |_| _ |o _ _ Martin Steigerwald | |(/_||(_)_ http://home.pages.de/~helios -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Re: looks better

2007-09-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi George, Am Montag 10 September 2007 schrieb George Adamides: Dear Martin and all, Thank you for your help. OK I used the commands you suggested aptitude install xserver-xorg kde-core and aptitude install kdat and I believe things were OK. Now I have the following info

Re: Backup/Restore software?

2013-08-04 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi David, Am Donnerstag, 11. Juli 2013, 17:42:27 schrieb David Guntner: I've been religiously backing up my Windows machine for years with a program called Acronis True Image. It works well, lets me backup my system to a second hard drive in the computer, and will do a weekly full backup and

Re: encrypted USB backup.

2013-08-04 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 3. August 2013, 14:33:26 schrieb Hendrik Boom: On Wed, 03 Jul 2013 01:03:39 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 17:00:35 -0400, Rob Owens wrote: - Original Message - From: Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com What is the recommended way to set up part

etckeeper (was: Re: Backing up system customization: …)

2013-08-04 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 1. Februar 2013, 17:00:59 schrieb Brad Alexander: etckeeper - A package that places a git repo under /etc, and captures changes to /etc config files, mainly by puppet and apt, which both have hooks files to implement changes. The truly paranoid could combine/clone all of the git

Re: Mysterious hangs since upgrading to Wheezy

2013-08-04 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi David! Am Sonntag, 4. August 2013, 08:31:21 schrieb David Guntner: […] Since I upgraded from Squeeze to Wheezy yesterday, I've noticed periodic hangs, where the system seems to just be *seriously* loaded down. It happened again this morning - it was so bad I was just about to press the

Re: Wheezy rkhunter hidden process found

2013-08-04 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi David, Am Sonntag, 4. August 2013, 09:25:18 schrieb David Guntner: And the saga continues! :-) In this morning's reports, I found the following notation from rkhunter: Warning: Hidden processes found: HIDDEN Processes Found: 1 sysinfo.procs = 519 ps_count = 521 Is this

Re: owncloud no longer in wheezy

2013-08-09 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 9. August 2013, 13:09:14 schrieb Jochen Spieker: Joel Rees: On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Sean Alexandre s...@alexan.org wrote: (I had installed owncloud on a wheezy box when wheezy was testing. I want to install it again, but this time on wheezy stable.) According to the

Re: owncloud no longer in wheezy

2013-08-09 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 9. August 2013, 12:11:30 schrieb David Guntner: Martin Steigerwald grabbed a keyboard and wrote: Does it need to be in backports? That's the preferred location, AFAIK. I think a co-worker has installed it from Sid. I think backports are just created for packages

Re: Migrating 32 - 64

2013-08-11 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 10. August 2013, 20:25:46 schrieb Gregory Seidman: I have a low-cost (i.e. old and refurbished) server at home, but it's showing indications of impending hardware failure (e.g. the on-board NIC was being reset automatically every 2 seconds for a while because it was hanging). As a

Re: NOT QUITE: headphones still don't work.

2013-09-17 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Hendrik, Am Dienstag, 17. September 2013, 00:32:49 schrieb Hendrik Boom: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 00:02:29 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 21:43:21 +0100, Klaus wrote: Can this be another instance of a muted Master switch? What do get for: $ amixer info $ amixer contents

Re: SSD as Cache?

2013-11-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Jochen, hi Paul, Am Freitag, 8. November 2013, 17:24:22 schrieb Jochen Spieker: Paul Johnson: On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 8:12 AM, basti black.flederm...@arcor.de wrote: Can this cache moved to SSD? Months ago I read articles about SSD and Flash Memory like: - Disable logging on SSD -

Re: newer kernels from experimental?

2013-03-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 14. März 2013 schrieb Gary Dale: On 13/03/13 09:00 PM, Brad Alexander wrote: While it isn't quite getting long in the tooth, sid is still sporting the 3.2.x kernel. Now as I recall, Greg KH said that this would be the next long term support kernel, but I would like to play

Re: newer kernels from experimental?

2013-03-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 14. März 2013 schrieb Brad Alexander: While it isn't quite getting long in the tooth, sid is still sporting the 3.2.x kernel. Now as I recall, Greg KH said that this would be the next long term support kernel, but I would like to play with some of the newer features from the

Re: A home directory on removeable storage ...

2013-04-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 10. April 2013 schrieb peasth...@shaw.ca: ... is possible. I understand the concept of mounting the filesystem. Additionally there can be a backup home directory which stays with the machine, on a hdd for example. I imagine that when the machine powers up without the

Re: which operation leads to the close all opening terminals

2013-04-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 10. April 2013 schrieb Benjamin Egner: On 04/10/2013 06:01 PM, lina wrote: Hi, Right now, I have three or four terminals open, with 1 to 5 tabs in each terminal, most are ssh out. In one terminal, I typed more just one blink, all those terminal-emulators gone.

Re: BTRFS Kernel Panic

2013-04-12 Thread Martin Steigerwald
On Thursday 11 April 2013 23:23:30 Roger Leigh wrote: You could also try upgrading to a newer kernel e.g. 3.8.x. I've done this myself due to btrfs issues with older kernels; you might need to hand-build it though since Debian doesn't yet have it. See kernel-package. Debian has it in

Re: Problem with xz on very small system

2013-04-12 Thread Martin Steigerwald
On Friday 12 April 2013 15:59:06 David Goodenough wrote: On Friday 12 Apr 2013, Claudius Hubig wrote: Dear David, Hi David, David Goodenough wrote: I have a PcEngines WRAP board, which has 64MB of memory and a CF disk. Unpacking replacement traceroute ... dpkg-deb (subprocess):

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 17. April 2013 schrieb Jonathan Dowland: My laptop is at 112 days. Of course it hasn't actually been on all of those days. Had about 200 days on a hibernating workstation at work. And its nice in Juni or July to type who and see 18 Apr as login time for display :0 :) Ciao, --

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 17. April 2013 schrieb Stan Hoeppner: Linux greer 3.2.6 #1 SMP Mon Feb 20 17:05:10 CST 2012 i686 GNU/Linux 22:35:31 up 412 days, 10:05, 1 user, load average: 1.18, 0.97, 0.44 mondschein:~ uprecords # Uptime | System Boot up

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 18. April 2013 schrieb Vincent Lefevre: On 2013-04-17 17:22:32 +1030, John Elliot wrote: $ uptime 16:51:12 up 1136 days, 17:01, 1 user, load average: 0.22, 0.12, 0.08 I got on 2012-11-01: 10:48:16 up 1150 days, 8:00, 1 user, load average: 0.83, 0.69, 0.31 But

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 19. April 2013 schrieb Karl E. Jorgensen: Hi On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:32:45PM +0100, Raffaele Morelli wrote: Hi, I have a debian wheezy server up, I would like to free some space on rootfs but can't guess how... Here follows the filesystem, any hints? regrds /r

Re: rootfs

2013-04-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 19. April 2013 schrieb Kevin Chadwick: Hi, I have a debian wheezy server up, I would like to free some space on rootfs but can't guess how... Here follows the filesystem, any hints? regrds /r debian:~# df -h File system Dim. Usati Dispon.

Re: rootfs

2013-04-23 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. April 2013 schrieb Kevin Chadwick: Don't believe opinion as fact just because it's on a server hosted by freedesktop.org. Rusty Russel and the FHS is a more authoritative (and correct) source, I suggest you read it. I never split up / and /usr for the last century or

Re: VIA system freezing since upgrade to wheezy

2013-05-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 18. Mai 2013, 18:21:51 schrieb Mark Carroll: I have a small low-power mini-ITX system that I use as our home router. It is VIA C7 based with VIA CN700, VT8237, etc. on the motherboard. Mainly it just sits there moving packets through iptables, via RTL-8139 and VT6102 (Rhine)

Re: Searching for process filling root FS.

2013-05-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Sthu, Am Montag, 20. Mai 2013, 12:06:11 schrieb Sthu Deus: Good time of the day. I watch carefully disk space on my root device i try to find the culprit that fills the space. For example, i have free space only 100 MiB. After 2-3 hours space is gone. After reboot i see the space

Re: MySQL slow and high load with Debian Wheezy (was: [whole mail text])

2013-05-24 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Andrei, How could that KMail can answer from the subject if marked, but I strongly second Lisi´s notion of putting a legible text into the mail body and using a fine descriptive and short enough subject for the mail. Am Donnerstag, 23. Mai 2013, 11:15:29 schrieb Andrei Hristow: Hi, I have

Re: How to get Dot files out of the way via shell scripts

2013-07-11 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 11. Juli 2013, 09:55:20 schrieb Andrei POPESCU: append command:cdto .profile 3. Modify /etc/passwd: login_dir == /home/user/.rc == example:

Re: expresscard esata experiences anyone?

2013-07-12 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Zenaan, Am Freitag, 12. Juli 2013, 23:43:55 schrieb Zenaan Harkness: Any experiences with ExpressCard54 (or 34 for that matter) eSATA laptop cards someone can share? Wondering of course about linux support. Have an Delock ExpressCard34 eSATA card here, works just fine. martin@merkaba:~

Re: Mail without MUA?

2014-01-07 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 7. Januar 2014, 19:36:24 schrieb Hans-J. Ullrich: However a MUA won't download emails from a MTA, but from a POP or IMAP server. Yes, of course from the pop3 server of my provider. What makes you think they were downloaded. I think, they were downloaded, for two reasons.

Re: Number of Procs

2014-01-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 8. Januar 2014, 11:40:36 schrieb Hudson Flavio Meneses Lacerda: Hi. Hi Hudson, Sometimes, the system raises a lot of processes, causing considerable delay to respond any input action. This moment, there are 312 processes running (in a personal laptop - Debian testing). Here is a

Re: Number of Procs

2014-01-09 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 9. Januar 2014, 07:52:55 schrieb Jeff Bauer: On 01/08/2014 10:41 AM, Hudson Flavio Meneses Lacerda wrote: hudson@musix:~$ free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 435412 22 0 2

Re: Hey humans, I'm a machine

2014-01-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 17. Januar 2014, 22:37:30 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: once you build me, but nowadays I'm more gifted than you humans. Is there any on-topic stuff going on on this mailing list anymore? I observe myself clicking on ignore message on whole mail threads quite often these days. Actually I

Re: POP3 softwares.

2014-01-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 18. Januar 2014, 21:46:15 schrieb Peter Easthope: Problem Given a remote POP3 server which provides SSL. Also a MUA on a local host, which retrieves by POP3 when activated by the user and lacks SSL. Try to move messages from the server to the MUA. Candidate Solution Let

Re: Minimizing shell access on my VPS

2014-01-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 18. Januar 2014, 01:23:16 schrieb Aubrey Raech: Hey debian-user list-- I have a friend in another country who only uses Windows, and I wanted to show him a programming project I've been working on. This program only runs on GNU/Linux as of now, and is accessed through the

Re: Minimizing shell access on my VPS

2014-01-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 18. Januar 2014, 19:12:18 schrieb Bob Proulx: Unix-like systems have been multiuser machines forever. Personally I create accounts for people often and know that the file permissions do their job to keep people restrictions presented. If I have files that I don't want other

Re: how to remove ? directory

2014-01-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 28. Januar 2014, 15:16:57 schrieb lina: ls: cannot access .gvfs: Permission denied d? ? ?? ?? .gvfs a# rm -rf .gvfs rm: cannot remove `.gvfs': Is a directory any advice, I think the .gvfs being introduced long time ago when I tried to

Re: Mysterius Download

2014-02-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 28. Februar 2014, 16:14:07 schrieb Andrei POPESCU: On Vi, 28 feb 14, 10:06:12, Markos wrote: How to find out which program is doing this mysterious download and block this download? nethogs nethogs is sufficient for TCP and user processes. There is also atop, but it needs a

Re: Zimbra mail........

2014-03-03 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 17. Januar 2014, 09:38:17 schrieb Charlie: From my Keyboard: Just a quick question. Does anyone use Zimbra mail and know something about setting it up. Have changed to a new ISP and they us Zimbra mail. They set up the default account without too much trouble other

Re: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 3. März 2014, 20:50:09 schrieb Steve Litt: Hi everyone, I just checked with my local Linux group (GoLUG), and the opinions there are that systemd is not a particularly good thing. I also heard from our LUG's most vociferous proponent of Daemontools that Daemontools wouldn't be a

Re: Voice control

2014-04-13 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Brian! Am Sonntag, 13. April 2014, 05:21:09 schrieb brian: My wife has contracted RSD (otherwise known as CRPS) affecting her hands, and it's become very painful for her to use her PC. She can cope with a mouse, just, but typing is a major problem for her. Does anyone have any

Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...

2014-04-13 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hello! Am Samstag, 12. April 2014, 21:03:36 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: On Sat, 2014-04-12 at 20:48 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I experience issues with Debian lists :(. _With Debian lists only_ :(. :( I'm still subscribed to d-community-offtopic, I checked it, however, my latest mail

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-15 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 15. April 2014, 11:41:34 schrieb Richard Hector: On 15/04/14 02:03, Stan Hoeppner wrote: I certainly wouldn't jump to conclusions that they're a bank therefore they use IBM mainframes therefore they don't use OpenSSL therefore they're invulnerable, I jumped to no

Re: KDE 4.12 Packages on Unstable

2014-05-01 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi David, Am Donnerstag, 1. Mai 2014, 12:31:09 schrieb David Baron: These have higher version numbers than those on experimental Correct. Safe to install? I am using the KDE from experimental since, well, Qt/KDE Debian devs uploaded it there. And I upgraded to the unstable version

Re: Iceweasel from experimental

2014-05-03 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 3. Mai 2014, 06:54:14 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: Hi, does somebody use Iceweasel from experimental? On my Arch I upgraded to Firefox 29.0, on Debian I will stay with Iceweasel 29.0, but the day might come, when there is no choice anymore and we all need to use = 29.0. I use it.

Re: Cron 101: Cron message /bin/sh: root: command not found

2014-05-11 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 11. Mai 2014, 10:37:31 schrieb Ron Leach: List good morning, Hi Ron, I do regret asking such a basic question about cron, but I cannot seem to get rid of what I think is a mis-configured entry, somewhere. We have a server running Lenny (still), its role is solely to provide a

Re: Cron 101: Cron message /bin/sh: root: command not found

2014-05-11 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 11. Mai 2014, 11:53:30 schrieb Ron Leach: On 11/05/2014 10:48, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Look into - /etc/cron.d - crontab -l It would not make much sense, but maybe someone added a call to /etc/cron.hourly there. server4:/# crontab -l # /etc/crontab: system-wide

Re: apt-get update: unnecessary use of disk space

2014-06-15 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 16. Juni 2014, 05:59:20 schrieb Chris Bannister: Hi, Hi Chris, Does this seem necessary? root@tal:~# apt-get clean root@tal:~# df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda536G 34G 266M 100% / [...] root@tal:~# apt-get update Hit

Re: systemd (was ... Re: Article on swift, responsive computers)

2014-06-16 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 16. Juni 2014, 10:11:00 schrieb Chris Bannister: On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 03:33:43PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: For the record I am using systemd without any issues, but then I am doing so on desktop systems. I just dislike the increasingly monolithic architecture of systemd.

Re: install kate (4.13.1 , testing) in debian stable

2014-06-26 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 26. Juni 2014, 18:54:50 schrieb sppmg: Hi all I want install kate 4.13.1 in debian stable, but the kde is 4.8 in debian stable . I followed kate official tutorial (http://kate-editor.org/get-it/) ,and get source by git and apt-get source. but I always get 4.8 version kate

Re: Replacement for dspam

2014-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hello! Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 12:10:44 schrieb Jonathan Dowland: On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 11:26:56PM +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote: Ok, I already fail at the first step: call crm114 from Postfix so that it uses user-specific spam/ham CSS files. My web search suggests nobody has ever done

Re: Replacement for dspam

2014-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 13:55:43 schrieb Erwan David: On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 01:45:55PM CEST, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de said: Hello! Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 12:10:44 schrieb Jonathan Dowland: On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 11:26:56PM +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote: Ok, I

Re: Copy machine?

2014-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 18:45:13 schrieb Chris: Dear All, Hi Chris, is it possible to rsync a virtual machine to a physical machine? I've tried this, but only a third of all kernel modules were loaded, especially the network card driver was missing. For the sake of completeness: this

Re: Replacement for dspam

2014-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 18:03:20 schrieb Erwan David: Le 18/07/2014 14:10, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 13:55:43 schrieb Erwan David: On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 01:45:55PM CEST, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de said: Hello! Am Freitag, 18. Juli

Re: Replacement for dspam

2014-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 18:03:20 schrieb Erwan David: Le 18/07/2014 14:10, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 13:55:43 schrieb Erwan David: On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 01:45:55PM CEST, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de said: Hello! Am Freitag, 18. Juli

Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd

2014-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 13:19:21 schrieb The Wanderer: On 07/18/2014 12:56 PM, Slavko wrote: Ahoj, Dňa Fri, 18 Jul 2014 18:10:58 +0200 Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org napísal: That's quite afalse this... count every package which depends direectly or indirectly on systemd, often

Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd

2014-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 13:19:21 schrieb The Wanderer: On 07/18/2014 12:56 PM, Slavko wrote: Ahoj, Dňa Fri, 18 Jul 2014 18:10:58 +0200 Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org napísal: That's quite afalse this... count every package which depends direectly or indirectly on systemd, often

Re: Replacement for dspam

2014-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 20:26:57 schrieb Erwan David: Le 18/07/2014 19:56, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 18:03:20 schrieb Erwan David: Le 18/07/2014 14:10, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 13:55:43 schrieb Erwan David: On Fri, Jul 18

Re: Replacement for dspam

2014-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 21:23:20 schrieb Erwan David: This does not seem to scale well with different spam/ham token set per user. Huh? Just copy the CRM114 folder to another home and empty the spam/ham token files? In my setup there are no home dir, no users on server. spam

Re: Sid Systemd upgrade

2014-07-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 20. Juli 2014, 11:00:15 schrieb David Baron: How safe are these on new 64bit system (dist-upgraded to Sid)? Which do you mean by these? -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-07-21 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 21. Juli 2014, 07:30:40 schrieb Erwan David: systemd-shim is no more an option in testing. the whole systemd with all its bugs (very low shutdown, no suport for policy-rc.d, etc..) is forced to users. It was said that we would have a choice. Were is the choice ? Were is

Re: Sid Systemd upgrade

2014-07-21 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 21. Juli 2014, 08:16:57 schrieb Miles Fidelman: Erwan David wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 10:36:30PM CEST, Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org said: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 03:09:40PM +0200, Erwan David wrote: Problem is where do we get the knowledge to repair mannually ? I do

Re: Is xhost +si:localuser:root safe?

2014-07-22 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 22. Juli 2014, 17:48:24 schrieb Vincent Lefevre: To be able to save/restore the XKB keymap in a /etc/pm/sleep.d script (as a workaround for Debian bug 633849), xkbcomp needs to have access to the display. The simplest solution I've found is a xhost +si:localuser:root in my

Re: /root is full

2014-07-29 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Haines, Am Dienstag, 29. Juli 2014, 09:22:02 schrieb Haines Brown: This is such a classic problem that I hesitate to raise the question. The df below shows that the usual suspects for root partition being full are broken out. The / partition is 500 Mb. In the past I have only used about 50

Re: /root is full

2014-07-29 Thread Martin Steigerwald
No need to CC me. I am subscribed Am Dienstag, 29. Juli 2014, 14:16:02 schrieb Haines Brown: On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 05:08:01PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: […] I suggest something like merkaba:~ du -d 1 -hx / | sort -rh | head -10 20G / 16G /usr 2,7G/var 1,2G

Re: KMail send function defaulting.

2014-08-04 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 3. August 2014, 23:59:15 schrieb Weaver: Greetings all, I'm running SID, and lately there have been a number of KDE updates. I find, after last night's updates that KMail's send function doesn't work anymore. The message I'm getting from the pop-up is: 'Failed to get D-Bus

Re: systemd fails to poweroff - A stop job is running for Session 2 of user $USER

2014-08-12 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 12. August 2014, 17:48:10 schrieb Michael Biebl: Am 12.08.2014 17:16, schrieb Hugo Vanwoerkom: Right. Debian Sid. 'halt' does not poweroff with systemd. Well, yeah. halt is not supposed to power off your system. Interestingly in the last ten years I have used halt exactly to

Re: Got skype 4.2 to connect again

2014-08-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 19. August 2014, 18:40:30 schrieb Hans: Hi folks, Hi Hans! I managed to get an older version of skype (the multiarch debian package) getting connected to skype. As you might have noticed, the new version is pulseaudio needed /what a crap!) and the older version (4.2) inhibits to

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 19. August 2014, 16:59:45 schrieb Haines Brown: On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 09:03:44PM +0100, Michael Jones wrote: New version socks, no audio due to the removal of alsa support I have similar problem, no audio with new version. So let me ask, did you install pulseaudio and doing

Re: skype error

2014-09-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 6. September 2014, 19:17:52 schrieb Hans: What can be done with this? You can try this little hack on the older linux version skype-4.2.: - Install the 4.2 package. - start a hexeditor and open the file /usr/bin/skype - search for 4.2.0.11 and change this to 4.3.0.37 - save

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

2014-09-15 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 15. September 2014, 21:55:29 schrieb Joe: On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 20:32:45 +0200 Bartosz Olender bartek.olen...@gmail.com wrote: W dniu 15.09.2014 19:39, Joe pisze: On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 11:07:35 -0400 Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 09/15/2014 03:31 AM,

But there is a choice to not use systemd (war: Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community)

2014-09-16 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 16. September 2014, 08:46:36 schrieb Charlie: On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 23:48:02 +0200 Martin Steigerwald sent: I have mixed thoughts and feelings about systemd… but on the other hand I think discussing this further here… is… a waste of time – as it won´t change anything. I'm

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 17. September 2014, 17:16:57 schrieb T.J. Duchene: I'm asking this on the user list not because I am trying to incite yet another debate over the merits of Systemd, but because I am assuming that the user list probably has the best chance of reaching out to the most people to get

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 18. September 2014, 11:02:11 schrieb Brian: On Thu 18 Sep 2014 at 11:27:32 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: The following packages will be REMOVED: Install systemd-shim first. It was installed as I ran the apt commend and it still is, cause if systemd doesn´t boot I like to say

Re: Again skype 4.2 does not connect - new workaround

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 14:20:59 schrieb Hans: Hi folks, Hi Hans, Microsoft again is working against us. They have fixed the version patch. But don't hesitate: Here is a workaround I figured out. I can still connect. With the same version patches 4.2 skype as before. Maybe was

Re: Faking it with skype

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 22:42:52 schrieb Bret Busby: On 20/09/2014, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2014 08:00:16 Bret Busby wrote: On 20/09/2014, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2014 07:32:54 Bret Busby wrote: It

Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 17:41:54 schrieb Hans: As in the other thread again, it still works here. With version patched 4.2. At least I can see online state of buddies after login in and it does log in. Ciao, Did you real disconnect or just close the application? Try to

Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion?

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 19:19:07 schrieb Hans: I wonder about a solution I can install on my server. It would just act as a router and the connection would be between clients directly. A solution that is *fully* and *completely* under *my* control and *will work as is* until *I*

Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 21:14:08 schrieb Reco: Hi. Hi Reco, On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 18:59:56 +0200 Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote: I wonder about a solution I can install on my server. It would just act as a router and the connection would be between clients directly

Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 20:11:44 schrieb Brian: On Sat 20 Sep 2014 at 20:52:35 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 21:14:08 schrieb Reco: http://tox.im Free software, decentralized, should do most of the things you expect from IM. Not in Debian

Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 19:13:43 schrieb Hans: Hmmm, I see. I just started the application with auto login and that did still work. But when I logoff from within the application I cannot login again. There is lots of binary data in ~/.Skype. Yes, but you can relogin

Re: There is no choice

2014-09-21 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 21. September 2014, 08:59:16 schrieb Miles Fidelman: Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2014 21 Sep 06:52 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: The issue of the day (week) on debian-devel seems to be systemd-shim -- which kind of has to work for anyone to use an alternate init system; but seems

Re: There is no choice

2014-09-22 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 22. September 2014, 03:41:53 schrieb lee: Andrew M.A. Cater amaca...@galactic.demon.co.uk writes: Jessie freezes no later than November 5th 2014. Allow folk who are trying to work on the distribution to work on it and not to have to intervene in this sort of discussion, please.

Re: More FUD for everyone: Computers Are Dangerous! (Users are devs, after all.)

2014-09-23 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 23. September 2014, 11:02:47 schrieb Joel Rees: There are some people who are trying to squelch conversations on this list with cries of FUD! FUD! Honestly: I stopped reading there. Ciao, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F

Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream (was: Re: There is no choice)

2014-09-23 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 22. September 2014, 23:50:46 schrieb lee: Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de writes: Am Montag, 22. September 2014, 03:41:53 schrieb lee: Andrew M.A. Cater amaca...@galactic.demon.co.uk writes: Jessie freezes no later than November 5th 2014. Allow folk who are trying

Re: find

2014-09-24 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 24. September 2014, 17:29:22 schrieb Gokan Atmaca: Within a directory backup tar.gz files you want to delete older than 1 day. I'm doing this as follows. But do not be. find /backup/ +1 -delete -mtime Can you help? find /backup -mtime +0 -delete find counts days as

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-25 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 25. September 2014, 01:45:50 schrieb lee: Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de writes: Am Montag, 22. September 2014, 23:50:46 schrieb lee: Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de writes: Do you really think they will be able to prevent all the other software from

About dependency creep (was: Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream)

2014-09-25 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 25. September 2014, 12:09:20 schrieb martin f krafft: also sprach lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de [2014-09-25 01:45 +0200]: Just one day they might wake up and find out that it was a very bad idea to depend on systemd, and then it'll be difficult to do without. That day was

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-26 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 01:58:44 schrieb lee: Or to *help*. Make a logind that does not depend on systemd. Offer it to the upstreams that need it. I'm sure it would be ignored or rejected --- even if I had the knowledge to make anything like that and was able to keep up

systemd and server use (was: Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream)

2014-09-26 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi! Am Donnerstag, 25. September 2014, 22:53:09 schrieb The Wanderer: On 09/25/2014 at 06:09 AM, martin f krafft wrote: But dependency creep is unfortunately nothing new ever since we declared next year the Year of Linux of the Desktop and forgot that the Universal Operating System should

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-26 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 10:43:14 schrieb Andrei POPESCU: On Vi, 26 sep 14, 01:58:44, lee wrote: Again, I consider it to be totally futile to try to convince the makers of systemd to fix the issues it brings about. They cannot be unaware of them, so obviously they don't want to fix

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Miles, Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 11:09:07 schrieb Miles Fidelman: Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Donnerstag, 25. September 2014, 01:45:50 schrieb lee: Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de writes: Am Montag, 22. September 2014, 23:50:46 schrieb lee: Martin Steigerwald mar

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 14:51:01 schrieb Miles Fidelman: John Hasler wrote: Miles Fidelman writes: the technical committee selects takes a vote that essentially imposes systemd on all of the upstream developers and packagers Where the hell do you get that from? Isn't that

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 13:08:50 schrieb The Wanderer: On 09/26/2014 at 12:44 PM, Martin Read wrote: On 26/09/14 16:09, Miles Fidelman wrote: - but the resulting impacts should be taken up with each and every upstream developer? As far as I can see, the issue that people are

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 19:08:13 schrieb Ric Moore: On 09/26/2014 05:08 PM, green wrote: Ric Moore wrote at 2014-09-26 14:18 -0500: Change is certainly needed when any pimple face kid can edit and hide his doings from a text log with nano. I think the change is necessary to harden

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 27. September 2014, 22:04:38 schrieb lee: Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: On Vi, 26 sep 14, 01:58:44, lee wrote: Again, I consider it to be totally futile to try to convince the makers of systemd to fix the issues it brings about. They cannot be unaware of

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