[OT] Who's interested in project management collaboration tools? And...

2012-08-04 Thread Miles Fidelman
, how to reach them, and what might motivate them enough to take a look at what I'm doing? Thanks very much, Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: [OT] Who's interested in project management collaboration tools? And...

2012-08-05 Thread Miles Fidelman
Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 09:28:13PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: So... I'd really welcome any feedback on the questions who cares about project management collaboration tools, how to reach them, and what might motivate them enough to take a look at what I'm doing

Re: [fossil-users] [OT] Who's interested in project management collaboration tools? And...

2012-08-06 Thread Miles Fidelman
Folks, I hope you don't mind some interactive responses - this really is helping clarify a lot of my thinking Michael, thanks! Michal Suchanek wrote: Hello, On 5 August 2012 03:28, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: where are they and how do I get their attention? Hi

Re: [fossil-users] [OT] Who's interested in project management collaboration tools? And...

2012-08-07 Thread Miles Fidelman
Michal Suchanek wrote: On 6 August 2012 19:21, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: My personal observation has been that even with a tiny group, an email containing a list of action items very quickly yields a thread of dozens, or hundreds of follow-ups - requests for details

Update: Who's interested in project management collaboration tools?

2012-08-10 Thread Miles Fidelman
Thanks to all who've sent me comments! The new, and hopefully improved Kickstarter page and video are now up at: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1947703258/smart-notebooks-keeping-on-the-same-page-across-th Take a look! Comments welcome. So are donations, likes, tweets, diggs, +1s,

Re: ot: file sharing other than yousendit, or sendspace?

2012-08-12 Thread Miles Fidelman
: http://fex.rus.uni-stuttgart.de/ and he has it up and running for general use at: http://fex.rus.uni-stuttgart.de/fup Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ

Re: Email management workflow

2012-08-28 Thread Miles Fidelman
offer an option to download and save copies of messages for offline access (while also leaving a message on the sever) - to clean out emails from the server is easy: either delete the mails entirely, or move them to a local folder (of course, now that mail is only one machine) Miles Fidelman

Re: Please help parsing file [sed, awk, fortran, bash]

2012-08-31 Thread Miles Fidelman
would suggest python is a much better choice to a young person just starting out. For going through a file, line-by-line, and massaging the format, my first instinct would be sed. That's what it's intended for. Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice

Re: is this hard drive dying?

2012-09-13 Thread Miles Fidelman
of attempts before the drive successfully reads a data block) Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble

help using serial console w/ netboot

2012-10-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
2, but I think the issue is configuring the boot file properly.) Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks! Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ

Re: help using serial console w/ netboot

2012-10-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Hi Lars, Lars Noodén wrote: On 10/1/12 8:23 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Hi Folks, I'm trying to build a headless, remote server - using an IPMI serial terminal and PXEboot. The thing is, that I've got everything set up to the point that the install system is booting (I can see the splash

Re: help using serial console w/ netboot - SOLVED

2012-10-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Turns out that the remote serial-over-ip terminal redirects COM3, and shows up as ttys2, which makes this debian-installer/i386/boot-screens/txt.cfg: append vga=788 inited=debian-installer/i386/initrd.gz -- console=ttyS0,19200 earlyprint=serial,ttyS0,19200 turn into this: append

problems with remote install using ipmi serial-over-ip

2012-10-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
my brain here. Any thoughts on what I might try next? Thanks, Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble

Re: problems with remote install using ipmi serial-over-ip

2012-10-02 Thread Miles Fidelman
Chris Davies wrote: Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Well, I've been trying to do a remote install onto a server (Supermicro X8SIE-LN4F motherboard) - booting via PXE, and using a serial-over-IP terminal provided by the IPMI board. The serial-over-ip terminal, sort of works

Re: rdiff-backup code quality

2012-10-05 Thread Miles Fidelman
Alberto Luaces wrote: Celejar writes: A long-time, reasonably happy rsnapshot user, I decided to give rdiff-backup a whirl, in part due to its recent endorsements on this list, and promptly ran into this: http://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?29808

Re: dynamic IP assignment on servers = brain damage

2012-10-06 Thread Miles Fidelman
Tom H wrote: On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 11:56 PM, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: This thread reinforces what experienced server admins round the world have known forever: DO NOT USE dynamic network address assignment on servers. The problem in this thread is but one of many that

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread Miles Fidelman
can install on your machine to do similar things - essentially sending a one-time link my email, that allows the recipient to download the file from your machine. Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread Miles Fidelman
Brian wrote: On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 09:14:12 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: Aubrey Raech wrote: 1. Not a proper server (http, ftp) Pretty much all modern o/s's come with both a web server and ftp pre-installed. It's a matter of turning them on, and configuring them (if your target is running

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread Miles Fidelman
Brian wrote: On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 22:48:57 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 02 iun 12, 18:12:03, Brian wrote: There appears to be no advantage in using sshd in this situation. The idea of having to guide her through configuring a router and using ssh (on a Windows machine, incidentally)

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread Miles Fidelman
Christofer C. Bell wrote: That's just it. Using anything *other* than ssh is a waste of time and effort most of the time as ssh requires no setup and effort to use out of the box not only in Debian but any modern Linux/Unix. *Everything else* requires effort to setup and use. The point,

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-02 Thread Miles Fidelman
here's another interesting one: http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/woof.html From the description: --- Woof (Web Offer One File) tries a different approach. It assumes that everybody has a web-browser or a commandline web-client installed. Woof is a small simple stupid webserver that can

Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Miles Fidelman
Aubrey Raech wrote: On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 21:07:15 -0400 Miles Fidelmanmfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: here's another interesting one: http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/woof.html Woof is excellent! Woof's also in the debian package repositories, as is fex (from your previous message).

Re: what did hwinfo do to my machine?

2012-06-04 Thread Miles Fidelman
in the process? hwinfo requires some libraries that get pretty close to the hardware - perhaps a changed library is causing your problems Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian

Re: Troubleshooting Debian

2012-06-04 Thread Miles Fidelman
paiva...@gmail.com wrote: DragonDondragon...@dragondon.net writes: 1/ Check logs. Insert ways to check various logs (both CLI and GUI) 2/ Type commands (for networks use command A, for video use command B, for) Aren't the first steps: 1. Are the lights on in your house? 2.

Re: what did hwinfo do to my machine?

2012-06-04 Thread Miles Fidelman
drive maker's web site for hardware-specific diagnostics Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: what did hwinfo do to my machine?

2012-06-04 Thread Miles Fidelman
Dan B. wrote: - maybe turn on BIOS logging and see if it catches any funniness during the pre-GRUB boot process I haven't seen anything about BIOS logging in my BIOS's menus. Is it common? It is known by any other names? Award BIOS has an option under Advanced BIOS settings for DMI Event

Re: what did hwinfo do to my machine?

2012-06-04 Thread Miles Fidelman
I did a little googling on error: fd0 read error - and found this page: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/568720 It's an interesting discussion regarding the behavior of different BIOS settings vis-a-vis FDDs. Particularly noteable is this: -- Steps to debug this: *

Re: what did hwinfo do to my machine? - SOLVED

2012-06-04 Thread Miles Fidelman
Dan B. wrote: Thanks to some suggestions that somehow caused me to check basic floppy access, I discovered that the problem was ... (get ready for a big letdown) ... a loose floppy cable. It really is amazing how many things end up being hardware problems ;-) -- In theory, there is no

Re: wordpress, again

2012-06-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
, and then re-run security scans. Hope this helps. Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Transferring files between Samsung tablet and a Debian box

2012-07-12 Thread Miles Fidelman
Kushal Kumaran wrote: Ken Heard kensli...@teksavvy.com wrote: Can anyone tell me how I can transfer files between my Samsung tablet with Honeycomb and my Debian boxes with Lenny or Squeeze, using either a USB or Bluetooth connection between them? I know I can transfer them by e-mail, but that

Re: OT: A web-based mail list archive suggestion?

2012-07-14 Thread Miles Fidelman
T Elcor wrote: --- On Sat, 7/14/12, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: However, for mailing lists and forums I prefer to use a NNTP newsreader, it does a better job. I used to do that but then switched to a web-based mail list archive. It's just more convenient for me as I don't have to

Re: Outrageous sexism. Was: Re: Mail client, threads, etc...

2012-11-21 Thread Miles Fidelman
Folks (to those in the US), Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Can Debian's paranoia be tamed

2012-11-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
MPR wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: Darac Marjal wrote: Log in as root? Effectively that's what I want. BUT neither 'root' nor 'superuser' is recognized by Gnome login screen : Edit /etc/passwd and change the UID and GID for your login to 0

Re: Can Debian's paranoia be tamed

2012-11-23 Thread Miles Fidelman
Richard Owlett wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: you might try using expert mode when installing, and then answering yes when the installer asks about enabling root login, That did not work. That's rather odd. The installer always asks me to set up a root account, before setting up an account

Re: Can Debian's paranoia be tamed

2012-11-23 Thread Miles Fidelman
Richard Owlett wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: you might try using expert mode when installing, and then answering yes when the installer asks about enabling root login, That did not work. That's rather odd. The installer always asks me to set up

Re: Can Debian's paranoia be tamed

2012-11-23 Thread Miles Fidelman
Ralf Mardorf wrote: spinymouse@q:~$ sudo -i [sudo] password for spinymouse: root@q:~# ahh... that's a good one, I've always used: sudo su which does the same thing Miles -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To

Re: Can Debian's paranoia be tamed

2012-11-23 Thread Miles Fidelman
Richard Owlett wrote: As in, you were not able to log in as root, even though you'd enabled root and provided a root password during installation? That's also kind of weird. What about logging in as a normal user, and then opening a terminal window and typing su ? That was *NOT* my goal .

Re: Can Debian's paranoia be tamed

2012-11-23 Thread Miles Fidelman
Ralf Mardorf wrote: It's wise not to run a complete session as root. It's better to e.g. use a su frontend, e.g. kind of depends on what you're doing - if you're doing software installs and admin on a server (most of what I do), one spends a lot of time in root sessions -- In theory,

Re: how many users is enough? (was Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-28 Thread Miles Fidelman
to maintaining/developing those aspects of Debian and Ubuntu that are unique to the respective distros (e.g., their installers and package repositories). Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: how many users is enough? (was Re: Debian Installer 7.0 Beta4 release)

2012-11-28 Thread Miles Fidelman
Morel Bérenger wrote: (Personally, I'm suspicious of software and changes that are distribution-specific.) Are you suspicious about the Debian Linux kernel? It have distro specific patches. (But I think and hope that they are reported upstream. Did not checked.) Well, that's why I included

Re: how many users is enough?

2012-11-29 Thread Miles Fidelman
Slavko wrote: I did search and i found the source, here it is: http://raphaelhertzog.com/2010/11/22/how-ubuntu-builds-up-on-debian/ Thanks for the pointer, I just went and read it. It's a pretty good and informative read. So are the comments. Still timely and worth reading. Miles -- In

Re: Linux vs BSD (was Re: how many users is enough?)

2012-12-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
David Guntner wrote: If I recall correctly, in an earlier posting you made here you asked about the difference between BSD and Linux. If that wasn't you, I apologize, and hope that the person who asked will see the subject line and find this just the same. :-) I stumbled upon the following

Re: WiFi / Hot-Spot Open Source World

2012-12-10 Thread Miles Fidelman
evaluation or testing, much less pay $40,000 for it. Your problem is not a technical one, its a staffing problem. Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Set up a webserver

2012-12-23 Thread Miles Fidelman
Marcelo Luiz de Laia wrote: Lars Noodén lars.nooden at gmail.com writes: You can specify which directory the web server looks for, such as ~/public/www, if the default ~/public_html is not to your liking. OK! But, what do you suggest to facilitate my colleagues windows users to administrates

management tools?

2012-12-24 Thread Miles Fidelman
of what people actually use, and in what combinations, rather than what's got the buzz this week. Thanks for anything you might share. Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user

Re: management tools?

2012-12-27 Thread Miles Fidelman
Bob Proulx wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Which leads me to wonder: Those of you who run server farms on Debian, what are you using for: - initial o/s install and configuration (e.g., FAI, other things?) - software install/update/configuration (chef, puppet, ?) - virtual machine management - user

Re: Java Security Flaw

2013-01-12 Thread Miles Fidelman
Patrick Bartek wrote: For the past couple of days have been reading about a major security hole in Java 7: (http://www.zdnet.com/homeland-security-warns-to-disable-java-amid-zero-day-flaw-709713/) And was wondering if IceTea might have the same flaw. As yet I've seen no mention of it.

Re: Tomboy Notes alternative?

2013-01-21 Thread Miles Fidelman
that would work on both: - Mac desktop - headless Debian popping up a remote window under MacX (without the burden of a full Gnome or KDE desktop) Thanks! Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Tomboy Notes alternative?

2013-01-21 Thread Miles Fidelman
Slavko wrote: Hi, Dňa Mon, 21 Jan 2013 12:22:39 -0500 Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net napísal: I'm interested too. Tomboy and Gnote look useful, but both seem awfully tied to the Gnome desktop. Any comments on Zim, or anything else similar that would work on both: - Mac desktop

Re: killing a job

2013-02-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Thierry Chatelet wrote: Hi, I have 3 instances of vlc that I can not stop. Top does not give me their process number. How can I get ithem to kill them with kill +process number? Or is there athere a other way to do it? Thierry if you process tools installed you can: pkill vlc -- In theory,

Re: Anybody have a chromebook? Can it run Debian?

2013-02-02 Thread Miles Fidelman
computer specifically to support Linux? That seems just a bit backwards if you ask me. Now, if you were to say: go for hardware for which hardware-specific drivers already exist, that's another story. Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice

Re: Anybody have a chromebook? Can it run Debian?

2013-02-03 Thread Miles Fidelman
Mark Allums wrote: From: Chris Bannister [mailto:cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz] On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 09:06:55PM -0600, zxcvbob wrote: I have a different model Chromebook with an Atom processor and a SSD. It should run Debian just fine; I have Debian on an older netbook, but good luck installing

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-26 Thread Miles Fidelman
(which used to run Redhat, and before that Solaris), and who's run MacOS on my desktop for close to 30 years (with lots of strange things running under the hood, including various other environments under emulation). But that's me, Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-26 Thread Miles Fidelman
for technoweenies? Try server o/s powering an awful lot of major applications. Desktop Linux has less of a value proposition. Face it, most people use computers at work, where you've got to run MS Office - which means Windows or MacOS. Real simple. Miles Fidelman -- In theory

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-26 Thread Miles Fidelman
Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/2/26 4:42 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Mark Filipak wrote: For everyone who doesn't have their own development department to adapt Linux kernels to their widget, Linux has been a toy OS for technoweenies. That hasn't changed in 10 years and Linux has made

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-26 Thread Miles Fidelman
Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/2/26 5:08 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/2/26 4:42 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Mark Filipak wrote: For everyone who doesn't have their own development department to adapt Linux kernels to their widget, Linux has been a toy OS

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-26 Thread Miles Fidelman
Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/2/26 5:39 PM, Joe wrote: Linux is where it is without mainstream or mass interest. Enough people want it, and use it, to maintain its viability. It *is* a success. No, it isn't. Says you. There's a pretty big user base, as well as a whole slew of vendors, who'd

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-27 Thread Miles Fidelman
with it - if Apple keeps up their current direction with MacOS, they're going to lose a lot of their market to Linux Just one man's opinion, Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-27 Thread Miles Fidelman
applications. Desktop Linux has less of a value proposition. Face it, most people use computers at work, where you've got to run MS Office - which means Windows or MacOS. Real simple. Miles Fidelman Your attitude, Miles, is typical and is a large part of the problem. What's wrong

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-27 Thread Miles Fidelman
Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 27 February 2013 20:34:26 Go Linux wrote: Well, I am a liberal arts educated 70-something (and female to boot) +1 ;-) without a technical computer background like yours to brag about. I am just a lowly user with a curiosity and willingness to learn. I have

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-27 Thread Miles Fidelman
Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/2/27 11:18 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Hasn't even run it, apprently, or at least wrote in an earlier message But I don't run Linux. Now that's it in a nutshell, isn't it. Seems to me that Mark is simply a troll (certainly not a debian-user) I'm not a troll

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-27 Thread Miles Fidelman
Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/2/27 5:32 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 26 February 2013 21:35:18 Mark Filipak wrote: An OS that is difficult to install is not a friendly OS. People understand this. I find Debian GNU/Linux significantly easier to install than Windows. What a nonsensical

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-27 Thread Miles Fidelman
Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/2/27 6:34 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/2/27 5:32 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 26 February 2013 21:35:18 Mark Filipak wrote: An OS that is difficult to install is not a friendly OS. People understand this. I find Debian GNU/Linux

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-27 Thread Miles Fidelman
Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/2/27 6:53 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/2/27 6:34 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/2/27 5:32 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 26 February 2013 21:35:18 Mark Filipak wrote: An OS that is difficult to install

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-02-27 Thread Miles Fidelman
David Guntner wrote: Miles Fidelman grabbed a keyboard and wrote: AND PLEASE STOP HITTING REPLY ALL - I DON'T NEED TWO COPIES OF EVERY ONE OF YOUR POSTINGS - REPLY TO THE LIST, ONLY If you're using Procmail to filter your E-Mail, I can send you a recipe that deletes the duplicate when things

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-27 Thread Miles Fidelman
Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 2013-02-27 at 19:04 -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: In the Debian live page, dd is offered as the way to copy the ISO file to a USB stick. But the dd program offered only runs in Linux! What good is that to someone who is running Windows at the time? If I get a new

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-02-27 Thread Miles Fidelman
David Guntner wrote: Miles Fidelman grabbed a keyboard and wrote: David Guntner wrote: If you're using Procmail to filter your E-Mail, I can send you a recipe that deletes the duplicate when things like that happen... :-) Anyway, the recipe is dirt simple. The bit of code below assumes

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-27 Thread Miles Fidelman
Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: So here we have it. You are trying to run a Linux distribution from USB stick. Somehing very exotic, not for beginers. Now I dare you to prove that it is easier (or even possible) to do this with Windows. If you are complaing that doing in Linux something that is

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-02-27 Thread Miles Fidelman
Alois Mahdal wrote: Hi Miles, hi everybody! On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:56:40 -0500 Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Sure... thanks! Still, it's a good thing to train folks to reply appropriately :-) Holy ravioli! Training a troll? Gimme a break! BTW, I'd prefer good old Delete

Re: Thinking about using Debian

2013-02-27 Thread Miles Fidelman
Charles Kroeger wrote: On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 00:40:02 +0100 Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com wrote: Linux scares the crap out of me. I tell you, the thing that scares the crap out of me is a woman with a bow and arrow. Oh God no... let's not go down this rathole :-) -- In theory,

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-27 Thread Miles Fidelman
Ralf Mardorf wrote: excerpts Cities that switched from Microsoft to Linux, for their departments, switched back to Windows. Then again, I've been seeing an awful lot of government users switching to Redhat Linux. Linux isn't a replacement for Windows and Apple. If somebody needs Apple

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-28 Thread Miles Fidelman
Tom H wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: So here we have it. You are trying to run a Linux distribution from USB stick. Somehing very exotic, not for beginers. Now I dare you to prove that it is easier

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-02-28 Thread Miles Fidelman
Tom H wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Tom H wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Come to think of it, that's a good point - and even relevant to Linux advocacy. I don't think I've ever

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

2013-02-28 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 02/28/13 11:31, Richard Owlett wrote: Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 28 February 2013 16:01:03 Richard Owlett wrote: as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to Debian(tm?), Why is your seniority relevant? Just trying to convey that I've enough real-world experience to have a

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

2013-02-28 Thread Miles Fidelman
Richard Owlett wrote: Nope ;) It was the standard IBM keypunch. I spent many hours muttering at it in 1961. Ok... definitely a bit before my time. Used keypunches my freshman year at college (1971) - in a course that took us from IBM 360 batch, to 360/TSO, to Multics - but after that,

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

2013-02-28 Thread Miles Fidelman
Cybe R. Wizard wrote: It's a car punch machine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IBM26.jpg Car punch? http://www.forkparty.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/E-Honda-Car-Punch.jpg -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

2013-02-28 Thread Miles Fidelman
Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 28 February 2013 19:31:03 Richard Owlett wrote: Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 28 February 2013 16:01:03 Richard Owlett wrote: as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to Debian(tm?), Why is your seniority relevant? Just trying to convey that I've enough

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

2013-03-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Morel Bérenger wrote: Le Ven 1 mars 2013 0:20, Miles Fidelman a écrit : - also, those of us who date back a few years still think of computers as things that need some assembly and bring that view to system software as well Well, here, let me laugh. Something which needs some assembly

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-03-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Bob Proulx wrote: David Guntner wrote: Anyway, the recipe is dirt simple. ... # Duplicate Suppression. :0Whc: $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache.lock | $FORMAIL -D 8192 $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache # Take out the Trash. :0 a: /dev/null For one I use the mailing list headers List-Id

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

2013-03-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Brian wrote: On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 08:34:57 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Fair enough, but... I have to say it Back in my day, we not only had to walk to school, uphill, in both directions, in the snow, but we also had to build our computers by hand, from TTL logic gates. :-) You had TTL

Re: Installation failed - again - why am I not surprised

2013-03-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Mark Filipak wrote: Do you want to help? If no, stop reading now (I don't need more heckling). What I did: 1 - Booted Windows. 1.1 - Copied the Debian-Gnome Live ISO to an 8-GB USB. 1.2 - Shut down Windows. 2 - Booted Debian-Gnome from 8-GB USB - success! 2.1 - Shut down Debian-Gnome. 3 -

Re: Installation failed

2013-03-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Mark Filipak wrote: GRUB LILO install failures unexplained - no help. Well that makes perfect sense. GRUB and LILO boot loaders designed to work with a hard drive. You (probably) need to install a different boot loader on a USB stick - and which one is dependent on what your BIOS

Re: Installation failed

2013-03-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/3/1 3:16 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Mark Filipak wrote: GRUB LILO install failures unexplained - no help. Well that makes perfect sense. GRUB and LILO boot loaders designed to work with a hard drive. You (probably) need to install a different boot loader

Re: Installation failed

2013-03-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/3/1 3:29 PM, Go Linux wrote: --- On Fri, 3/1/13, Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Installation failed To: Shane Johnson s...@rasmussenequipment.com Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date:

Re: Caldav client on Debian

2013-03-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Mérof 42 wrote: Hi, I'm using Owncloud since few month, but with the web interface calendar is not really useful I'm looking for a simple caldav client, but I can't find one. Do you have any idea which client can I use? I'm searching a simple client, not like evolution who need a mailbox

Re: Installation failed

2013-03-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Rob Owens wrote: On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 03:16:12PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Mark Filipak wrote: GRUB LILO install failures unexplained - no help. Well that makes perfect sense. GRUB and LILO boot loaders designed to work with a hard drive. You (probably) need to install a different

Re: Installation failed

2013-03-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Rob Owens wrote: On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 03:16:12PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Mark Filipak wrote: GRUB LILO install failures unexplained - no help. Well that makes perfect sense. GRUB and LILO boot loaders designed to work with a hard drive. You (probably) need to install a different

Re: Installation failed

2013-03-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Rob Owens wrote: On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 07:14:59PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Rob Owens wrote: On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 03:16:12PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Mark Filipak wrote: GRUB LILO install failures unexplained - no help. Well that makes perfect sense. GRUB and LILO boot loaders

Re: Installation failed

2013-03-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Rob Owens wrote: On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 07:25:30PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Rob Owens wrote: On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 03:16:12PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Mark Filipak wrote: GRUB LILO install failures unexplained - no help. Well that makes perfect sense. GRUB and LILO boot loaders

Re: Installation failed

2013-03-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Brian wrote: On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 19:25:30 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: in fact, I expect that's what's happening to Mark when he tries to install GRUB - the installer is either: a) trying to install on the hdd, which he's disconnected (fail), or, The kernel has no knowledge about a non

Re: Installation failed

2013-03-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/3/1 8:13 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Brian wrote: On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 19:25:30 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: in fact, I expect that's what's happening to Mark when he tries to install GRUB - the installer is either: a) trying to install on the hdd, which he's

Re: 10 top myths of debian

2013-03-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
a pretty good reputation for being pretty secure. Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-03-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: There was once a fellow on a list I belong to whose postings were one tale of woe after another which is not that unusual for those of us who tinker and work in technology. The trouble with him was that it was all one big conspiracy against him and he was just

Re: Install failed - let's start again, without bogus assumptions, please.

2013-03-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Windows-NT 3.5 was probably the finest OS ever written Let us see who will be the first to bite the troll :) Do you really want to start a debate on best OS ever? Talk about an ugly religious argument, even if we exclude anyone dumb (or trollish) enough to

[OT] re: trolls and operating systems [was: Install failed - let's start again, without bogus assumptions, please.]

2013-03-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Windows-NT 3.5 was probably the finest OS ever written Let us see who will be the first to bite the troll :) Do you really want to start a debate on best OS ever? Talk about an ugly religious argument, even if we exclude

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-03-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Go Linux wrote: --- On Fri, 3/1/13, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati assir...@nonada.if.usp.br wrote: From: Joao Luis Meloni Assirati assir...@nonada.if.usp.br Subject: Re: I wish to advocate linux To: Martin McCormick mar...@x.it.okstate.edu Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Friday, March 1,

Re: I wish to advocate linux

2013-03-02 Thread Miles Fidelman
Brian wrote: On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 23:05:13 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Yup. And it's even obvious what he's doing, but he's too obstinate to listen. (trying to install onto the same device he's booting from, without paying attention to partitioning, telling the installer where to put

Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

2013-03-02 Thread Miles Fidelman
Lars Noodén wrote: On 03/02/2013 11:27 AM, Tom Furie wrote: On Sat, Mar 02, 2013 at 07:38:41PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: These days it is != :) (I think was not equal to, was it?) Technically, it's less than or greater than, but I suppose it amounts to the same thing :) Cheers, Tom

Re: Install failed - USB flash to USB drive [SOLVED]

2013-03-02 Thread Miles Fidelman
Wait a minute Mark Filipak wrote: I successfully installed this: debian-live-6.0.6-amd64-lxde-desktop.iso to a USB flash in Windows with this: dd bs=1M if=debian-live-6.0.6-amd64-lxde-desktop.iso od=e: dd, in Windows? which version of dd for windows did you use? (where 'e:' is the

Re: Installation failed - again - why am I not surprised

2013-03-02 Thread Miles Fidelman
Harvey Kelly wrote: On 2 March 2013 10:58, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 08:20:32PM -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: João, kindly stop responding to this thread. I want help, not noise. Bloody cheek!! Did you behave this way on other distro support

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