Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

2019-10-19 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > The overall design paradigm is object oriented but without fancy stuff > > like overloading or inheritance. Encapsulation and aggregation must > > suffice. mick crane wrote: > This is interesting topic for me but don't know what these words > "overloading or inheritance.

Re: Top 7 Programming Languages That Employers Really Want

2019-10-18 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Doug McGarrett wrote: > [...] and I learned to use BASIC. And ? Any recognizable damage left ? :o) > (This was in the days when we had > an acoustic modem and a Teletype machine, and the mainframe was > 1500 miles away!) I had a color tv and a VIC-20 on the couch table. > Later, I

Re: what happen to blkid in buster?

2019-10-18 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Long Wind wrote: > the real problem is default path for root in X Window I dimly remember various complaints that PATH now does not change if you become superuser. See e.g. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=918754 So it is not so much related to X but to your way to become

Re: what happen to blkid in buster?

2019-10-18 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Long Wind wrote: > how can i run blkid in buster? According to apt-file "search" it is in package "util-linux". https://packages.debian.org/buster/amd64/util-linux/filelist says that it is there as /sbin/blkid If you try "blkid" with the typical $PATH of a non-superuser, then you

Re: et.al.

2019-10-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Brian wrote: > Note that there isn't any LDOSUBSCRIBER in the headers of this mail. Your spam score worsened from -10.3 to 0.1 consequentially. Shall we still believe that you are you ? Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: fixing up an armhf screwup

2019-10-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > how do I mount it to copy those 5 or so > files out of it and back to this card? I've not used the -oloop option > in a decade and have long since forgot how. Since -o loop felt neglected it decided to become optional. So, provided you have an existing mount directory (here /mnt/iso)

Re: New Linux User needs some guidance

2019-10-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, after not finding in the man page a description of cp behavior with existing target file, i looked up POSIX https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/cp.html "3. If source_file is of type regular file, [...] a. [...] if dest_file exists, the following steps shall be

Re: New Linux User needs some guidance

2019-10-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, (We are discussing this for the archive, as Larry Honaker probably needs advise for doing it on MS-Windows.) Tony van der Hoff wrote: > cp copies a file onto s file system, bit that's not what's wanted here. It does indeed. But (at least with our GNU coreutils cp) copying a data file to a

Re: New Linux User needs some guidance

2019-10-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > ... or from a fresh attempt to install the ISO onto the USB stick by > > one of the ISO-to-stick converters (unetbootin, Rufus, ...). to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Oh, they do that? Thanks for teaching me something new :-/ I have no comprehensive knowledge of that topic. Just what

Re: New Linux User needs some guidance

2019-10-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > The error message quoted by the original poster strongly suggests > that he's got that part right: it is the boot loader complaining. No. It is the wrong flavor of SYSLINUX software and much too old. Even debian-8.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso has "ISOLINUX 6.03 20150107"

Re: et.al.

2019-10-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > I wonder whether my mail provider would allow me to send via SMTP > > MAIL FROM: > > From: "Somebody Else" David Wright wrote: > It's fairly easy to find out by trying it out, I have the technical means but not the courage to challenge my provider. > Perhaps not as easy

Re: Dependencies et al

2019-10-07 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Brian wrote: > I am still wondering what use it is to "check for the existence of > that LDOSUBSCRIBER value of X-Spam-Status e-mail header *before* > replying to e-mail". How does it affect the actions one takes? As said, i use it as guideline whether to add a Cc: for the thread starter. If

Re: et.al.

2019-10-07 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > But how do Debian list servers know [that Brian is subscribed] ? > > [...] is it because the first mail hop added "envelope-from" to > > its Received: header ? Brian wrote: > I can alter that too, and still be designated LDOSUBSCRIBER. Hmm. I see you tinkered with the first

Re: New Linux User needs some guidance

2019-10-07 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, lwhona...@gmail.com wrote: > I was under the impression, if I copied the dvd image to a usb stick, > I could boot from the stick and start the install. This is true. You have to put it as image onto the raw USB stick device. https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb proposes for GNU/Linux

Re: et.al., (was: Dependencies et al, was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > To my best knowledge, "X-Spam-Status: ... tests=...,LDOSUBSCRIBER,..." > > says that the "From:" address of the mail is subscribed. Brian wrote: > Are you sure it is the From: and not the envelope From? My From: is > not subscribed. Interesting observation. So the address by

Re: Dependencies et al (was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Reco wrote: > > 1) Call me old-fashioned, but posters' personalities should not matter > > here, at this list. [...] > > The language OP is using could definitely use some improvement indeed, It would serve the general issue of constructive discussion. > > discussing OP's personality just

Re: RFE: Could crc32 be included in the debian live/installation disk?

2019-10-05 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Albretch Mueller wrote: > [...] crc32 [...] 200+K files Kids, whatever you do with one of the many "CRC-32"s, be aware that the birthday paradox predicts several identical 32-bit outcomes among 200,000 files. In the context of an intrusion detection system, a 32-bit checksum is much too

Re: testing security updates

2019-10-04 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Brad Rogers wrote: > > > If one uses sites such as spotify or amazon video to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >...but why on earth would you want to do THAT? Eeeek... ;-) Brad Rogers wrote: > *I* don't; It's the kids. I wonder whether there is a Debian Developer willing to create a package which

Re: Message threading.

2019-10-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > Suppose you read a message in the Web based archive and it is no > longer in your mailer. Either you weren't subscribed when the message > was sent or you were subscribed but have deleted the message. Using > tools available, in Debian or otherwise, can you reply

Breaking the mail thread. Was: Re: Authentication for telnet.

2019-10-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > > Hopefully this is readable. Reco wrote: > Threading is broken, as usual. This is probably due to extra characters in the "References:" header: > > From: pe...@easthope.ca > > X-Mailer: Oberon Mail (ejz) on LinuxA2 Gen. 32-bit, rev.8586 > > To:

Re: Authentication for telnet.

2019-10-01 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, David wrote: > > Oh dear, I'm sorry again, this time for mixing you up with Thomas! to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > I can't know how Thomas feels about it. I regularly run whoami to avoid any local confusion. Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: How To Install Debian 10.0.0

2019-09-26 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Saurav Sarkar wrote: > As the downloaded installation dvd is not working how can i install > debian 10.0.0 ??? You could try with a USB stick. See https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb (On MS-Windows it seems that program Rufus in "dd" mode is currently the best way to copy an image

Re: Error While Installing Debian 10.0.0 Buster

2019-09-24 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Curt wrote: > Anything to do with this (it's old but still outstanding somehow)? > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=750586 I doubt. The bug is about a netboot tarball, not about an ISO. Further it is from 2014. So if it persisted in installation ISOs since then, i'd say it

Re: Error While Installing Debian 10.0.0 Buster

2019-09-24 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Saurav Sarkar wrote: > I had downloaded debian 10.0.0 amd64 3 isos through torrent from your site. Did you verify download correctness by one of the checksum files ? E.g. https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/10.0.0/amd64/bt-dvd/SHA512SUMS or

Re: Understanding PATH$ variable

2019-09-23 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Greg Wooledge wrote: > I'd be rather surprised if there's *no* function in Python that uses > the PATH variable. Problem is that Richard Owlett expected it to work in the starter program of the interpreter (here: /usr/bin/python) when it opens the script file for reading. I assume Python

Re: Understanding PATH$ variable

2019-09-22 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > The launching instructions were to do >cd /path/to/script > then >python script.py > I thought I could "simplify" my life by doing >export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/script > and then launch by doing just doing >python script.py > > That FAILED to find

Re: confused, seems to be my normal state

2019-09-17 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: > I once wrote the "debian-10.0.0-arm64-netinst.iso" to an u-sd card, > which booted and did a net-install on an rpi-3b [...] > /dev/sde1 /media/sde1 iso9660 ro,relatime 0 0 > /dev/sde2 /media/sde2 vfat >

Re: Is Linux a single-user system ? was: When/how/why to use "sudo", "su" or "su -"

2019-09-13 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > Do you have any problem with my statement: > > Today Linux is being used by an individual who is the _only_ > > user of a standalone system (e.g. laptop). What about the really big iron ? "Linux Runs on All of the Top 500 Supercomputers, Again!" (June 2019)

Re: Install debian armhf on tablet "surface rt"

2019-09-10 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, hans.ullr...@loop.de wrote: > The "Surface RT" is capable to start of an usb-stick, but it is EFI secured. What exactly do you mean by "EFI secured" ? > However, the debian installer > (on intel hardware) can be started with uefi, too, so why should the same > not work with armhf? I just

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i now realize that Gene by "rp4" indicated some known Raspberry system. So my proposal about netboot might be hopeless according to the answers of David and didier.gaumet. -- But there is technical stuff left to discuss: I

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: > debian-10.0.0-armhf-netinst.iso > debian-10.0.0-arm64-netinst.iso SD card seems to be the intended target for netboot images. E.g. http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/installer-arm64/current/images/netboot/SD-card-images/ Maybe worth a try, if you can get

Re: mplayer won't play m4a

2019-09-03 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > All this riddling just because of silent rejection of oversized mail. Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Yes... :-( At least it was served with interesting red herrings. Now you only need to find a way to publish your attachment. Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: mplayer won't play m4a

2019-09-03 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > I can see all my recent messages through gmane.news server in > linux.debian.user group... Here i see none of you between from : Andrei POPESCU date : Mon, 26 Aug 2019 21:10:02 +0200 subject: Re: mplayer won't play m4a and from : Rodolfo Medina

Re: test, Was: mplayer won't play m4a

2019-09-03 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Curt wrote: > I guess I wasn't precise enough. news.gmane.org is the news server. > gmane.linux.debian.user is this newsgroup. I am here. So what you post to gmane.linux.debian.user ends up on debian-user mailing list too ? (I can distinguish a typical server name from a typical group name,

Re: test, Was: mplayer won't play m4a

2019-09-03 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Curt wrote: > I post to the group via news.gmane.org with a NNTP client. Can you see gmane.linux.debian.user there ? If yes: Are there recent messages from Rodolfo Medina ? E.g. this one: From: Rodolfo Medina Subject: Re: mplayer won't play m4a Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2019 13:15:24 +

Re: test, Was: mplayer won't play m4a

2019-09-03 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > Due to no interest in the original topic, i only have the file '90' > > but not a direct mailing list copy of the mail. The Wanderer wrote: > If you'd like, I could send one as an attachment, much as Rodolfo did Not needed. Your report about lack of newsgroup headers matches

Re: test, Was: mplayer won't play m4a

2019-09-03 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > I actually have two copies of that message: the one originally received > by me, and the one later provided by Rodolfo as an attachment (with the > filename '90'), which latter is the one he's been trying to reply to. Due to no interest in the original topic, i only have the file '90' but

Re: test, Was: mplayer won't play m4a

2019-09-03 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, a more elaborate theory: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GnusTutorial shows that Gnus+Emacs works on e-mail and newsgroups alike. If Rodolfo's Gnus got Andrei's message from a newsgroup rather than via mail, then it might have directed the reply to that newsgroup. I got the Cc: via mail,

Re: test, Was: mplayer won't play m4a

2019-09-03 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > One header is missing: To: ... Rodolfo Medina wrote: > So what would your theory be...? That Gnus tried to send the message to Newsgroup gmane.linux.debian.user ? That the Debian mailing list server does not accept messages without To:, Cc:, or Bcc: to a debian-list ? I had a

Re: test, Was: mplayer won't play m4a

2019-09-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, The Wanderer wrote: > >> Here's an attempt to reply to the message which Rodolfo Medina has > >> reported having trouble replying to. Has anyone else tried to reply > >> to this message, prior to this? I wrote > > I did, creating the sub-thread "Re: test, Was: mplayer won't play The

Re: test, Was: mplayer won't play m4a

2019-09-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, so the In-Reply-To theory took a blow. I'm out of ideas. Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: test, Was: mplayer won't play m4a

2019-09-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i make a test with a synthetic In-Reply-To: header like Rodolfo's. A test mail to myself went through. So it is not everywhere bad. Now i am really curious ... Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: test, Was: mplayer won't play m4a

2019-09-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, The Wanderer wrote: > Rodolfo posted a copy of that message as an attachment, just now, so > that should be check-able. I don't see anything quite odd just at a glance. Yes. Looks totally normal. > Here's an attempt to reply to the message which Rodolfo Medina has > reported having trouble

Re: test, Was: mplayer won't play m4a

2019-09-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > I don't have the mail by Andrei POPESCU in my mailbox, The Wanderer wrote: > I do. It has: > >>> In-Reply-To: <87h8664rvb.fsf@lenovo> Well, it is not about the In-Reply-To: header itself. Most of our mails here have one, with just a message id string in <>-brackets. But

Re: test, Was: mplayer won't play m4a

2019-09-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > ...And I'm replying now to the above message from Thomas... This one has no In-Reply-To header. I don't have the mail by Andrei POPESCU in my mailbox, to which you tried to reply with that header line. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2019/08/msg01294.html A

Re: test, Was: mplayer won't play m4a

2019-09-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, this is a test whether i can reply to the thread "mplayer won't play m4a". It looks like Rodolfo Medina, the thread starter cannot. See https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2019/09/msg00053.html In my recent mail to that thread i announced to reply to Message-Id: 87h8664rvb.fsf@lenovo

Re: test

2019-09-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Rodolfo Medina wrote (twice ?): > Done. Let's see... I received the direct mail Subject: Re: mplayer won't play m4a Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2019 13:15:24 + Message-ID: <87r24yx2j7.fsf@lenovo> References: <87h8664rvb.fsf@lenovo>

Re: test

2019-09-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Yes, that's the strange thing: I've been added a reply to that thread, many > times, but it was not delivered to the list neithere is being delivered nor > it will even now... And in the next mail: > Sorry, `I've been adding' Try again. Add Cc: to scdbac...@gmx.net

Re: test

2019-09-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > > I've been sending many times a message to the present group but it > > doesn't seem to have been delivered... Gene Heskett wrote: > your name has not previously been received here. The list archive has "mplayer won't play m4a" Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 13:26:00

Re: Temporary color prompt in bash script

2019-09-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Computer Planet wrote: > Is It possible to print of a string at the exit of a bash script? > e.g.: user@mypc: # bash script has just finished! [prompt] > with the prompt that remains immediately after the string printed. Do you mean something like this ? $ echo -n 'user@mypc: # bash

Re: xorriso as a backup &/or archival tool

2019-08-29 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > I will be focused on what I refer to as "archiving for posterity". and somewhere before that: > before wiping the drive Well, then you should strive for several byte-by-byte identical copies on cheap media. This would be BD-R in my case. But magnetic disks are cheaper

Re: Blu-ray discs

2019-08-29 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Jiangsu Kumquat wrote: > > I was wondering if there is any way to create a Blu-ray disc from within > > Debian? I have a 1080p video camera [...] Yes, BD media can be burnt on GNU/Linux. But the bottleneck is with formatting the UDF filesystem that would be needed for Blu-ray video. To my

Re: xorriso as a backup &/or archival tool

2019-08-29 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > Why is xorriso more appropriate for *MY* _stated_ immediate goal? This is not decided yet. We have the proposal to use xorriso with incremental backups on some raw storage devices or on some data files in filesystems on backup disks. We have the proposal to use rsync

Re: xorriso as a backup &/or archival tool

2019-08-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > Recently I was suggested I read > https://www.gnu.org/software/xorriso/ > and > http://scdbackup.sourceforge.net/main_eng.html > which led to exploring "afio archives" and "zisofs compression". afio is a sequential archiver. I used it in scdbackup mainly because

Re: xorriso: Feature Discussion re ECC / Parity, plus notes on -add ./ and -check_md5_r and zisofs 4g limit

2019-08-25 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, sorry i sent this person-to-person software discussion mail here by mistake. Just wanted to state that everybody should ignore it. But well. So if anybody has two cents about libraries for RAR, PAR2, or alike, i'd like to read.

Re: xorriso: Feature Discussion re ECC / Parity, plus notes on -add ./ and -check_md5_r and zisofs 4g limit

2019-08-25 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, JBThiel wrote: > 1)  '-add ./  -- '    fails as below. Looks like an old bug. I will investigate further. > 2)  I recently realized that -check_media  does not check the md5 unless > '-md5 on'  or -for_backup. This is a featurei explained in the man page. The MD5 verification can be

Re: To burn cd or dvd with debian 10

2019-08-24 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Simeone Dominique wrote: > I search about of software but i didn't find for burn cd or dvd? See https://wiki.debian.org/CDDVDTools for a list of links. The "Graphical" programs are supposed to explain themselves. (If not, then its hard to help with them via mail, i fear.) The "Command

Re: Assignment of Debian source package to binary packages

2019-08-22 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Knut Hengstenberg wrote: > > we want to have the information, which binary packages belong to a > > certain source package. So for example the source package 0ad has two > > binary packages: > > > > https://packages.debian.org/source/jessie/0ad Andrei POPESCU wrote: > You might be looking

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, David Wright wrote: > it appears that any subsequent mount commands have to > agree explicitly with the earlier choice. Are there other, similar > factors involved in the OP's case… Ah yes. I was similarly confused by my system's behavior on double mount and the fact that i remember to have

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Curt wrote: > Did you show your /etc/fstab file (cut and paste)? If so, I must've missed > it. See https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2019/08/msg00295.html where the attachments are kindly attached to the body text. Results from "mount" without arguments or the contents of /etc/mtab and

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-07 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > >mount -v /dev/sdc /wa1 > >echo $? Duh. "/dev/sdb2", not "/dev/sdc". (Do as i mean, not as i write.) Dennis Wicks wrote: > I'll put a note in my fstab so the next time I boot I can find it if the > mount fails again! Did i miss the report about some miracle cure beyond

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-06 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, more ideas: exit value, verbous mode. mount -v /dev/sdc /wa1 echo $? A nominally successful mount command would yield 0 as "$?". Maybe -v yields some extra insight. Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-06 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Dennis Wicks wrote: > I *cannot* mount *any* partition on /wa1 > but I *can* mount *any* partition on any other mount point. So what do you get from these shell commands ? ls -ld /wa1 /wa11 find /wa1 What happens if you create a new /wa1 ? mv /wa1 /wa1_old mkdir /wa1 mount

Re: where is my disk space

2019-08-04 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Long Wind wrote: > /dev/sda2   9.8G  9.3G 0 100% / I place my bet on the highest rated answer in https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/7950/reserved-space-for-root-on-a-filesystem-why mattdm wrote there: "Ext3 is pretty good at avoiding filesystem fragmentation, but once

Re: Buster installer on USB searches for CDROM instead of using USB drive

2019-07-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, basti wrote: > I have the same problem, with netinstall iso on usb stick it search for > cd at hatdware detection step ab abort this with an error. > > usb stick is create with unetbootin an test in kvm. Does the trick of https://askubuntu.com/questions/671159/bootable-usb-needs-cd-rom

Re: clone ACL permissions

2019-07-23 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, consider this from man setfacl: --restore=file Restore a permission backup created by `getfacl -R' or similar. All permissions of a complete directory subtree are restored using this mechanism. If the input contains owner comments or group comments, setfacl

Re: Cinnamon statt Gnome?

2019-07-22 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Franz Iberl wrote: > mit der Netinstall-ISO auf USB klappte hier meine Buster-Premiere. Ich gratuliere zum Installationserfolg. (Congrats to your installation success.) Wenn Du aber die Details in deutscher Spache diskutieren willst, solltest Du damit nach

Re: Buster installer on USB searches for CDROM instead of using USB drive

2019-07-20 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, TomK/Brian_S wrote: > I disabled all boot devices in the BIOS, except the USB drive. It works > now. This is surprising and unplausible even within the usual range of firmware madness. I understand that the "mount CDROM step" is performed by a Linux kernel on behalf of software in the

Re: Buster installer on USB searches for CDROM instead of using USB drive

2019-07-19 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, TomK wrote: > Since I began using USB flash media for the installation disk, I have > always simply downloaded DVD-1.iso, used 'dd' to write it to the USB, > booted with it, and installed Debian! This should be reported as bug towards package "debian-cd". You could try this proposal from

Re: dash/bash: exec behaviour change on Buster

2019-07-17 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, John Crawley wrote: > > In Buster, the launching dash shell dies *immediately* and the bash > > prompt returns, even while the new window is still open. tomas wrote: > that most probably is due to a change > in behaviour of "x-terminal-emulator". My suspicion too. If the x-terminal-emulator

[OT] Trustfulness. Was: Re: fix for no ssh

2019-07-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Curt quoted: > This will prevent getrandom(2) from blocking, if there is a > willingness to trust the CPU manufacturer. > Signed-off-by: Theodore Ts'o Apropos trusting strange allies: # mount debian-10.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso /mnt/iso mount: /dev/loop0 is write-protected, mounting

Re: No jigdo images yet?

2019-07-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, it is an old bug of jigdo-lite that it cannot download .jigdo and .template files via https: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=865864 So manually download the .template file too and then run jigdo-lite again. There is hope that the new system can install jigdo-lite without

Re: not wanting to delete somebody's home directory

2019-07-06 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > You sometimes will end up with a sort that like this: > 1 11 12 ... 19 2 21 ... 3 > I'm sort of hoping the reason is easy to spot, as I am fighting a headache Would the following sequence (and the image of a stern looking librarian) be more intuitive ? A AA AB

Re: Fwd: alternative Firmware for BMC's

2019-07-01 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > short question: when I read [1] (sorry just in german), it says that several > vendors install their own BMC software up there. So I ask myself which one? I guess you will have to find a place where big iron is more on topic. For us small iron owners there is still AMT if we want it

Re: Problem to locate bug

2019-06-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Julian Schreck wrote: > I could narrow it down to lxterminal (autostarted), You could start another terminal program from the lxterminal and then end the lxterminal. (I use "xterm", the old and sparse one.) You could also check whether the lxterm menus give you an opportunity to disable any

Re: DVD Burning speed

2019-06-26 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, deloptes wrote: > What does determine the DVD burning speed? Is it the DVD or the burner or > both? The drive decides according to its assessment of the medium and the speed wish issued by the burn program. The drive announces a list of possible speeds, depending on the medium. E.g.: $

Re: Problem to locate bug

2019-06-24 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, sj...@uranus.uni-freiburg.de wrote: > As far as I can see, this behaviour may only be > caused by [1-4] out of 4 programs: lxterminal, qutebrowser, evolution, > openbox. Consider to use alternatives for a few days until it is clear whether avoiding one or more of the suspects makes the

Off topic: German. Was: Off topic: Carbon. Was: Off topic: remaja (teens)

2019-06-23 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, deloptes wrote: > https://deutsch.lingolia.com/de/grammatik/verben/imperativ Reminds me somewhat of "The Hungarian Phrasebook Sketch" http://www.montypython.net/scripts/phrasebk.php (There is a lengthy link list before the sketch text begins.) "Publisher: I wish to plead

Off topic: Carbon. Was: Off topic: remaja (teens)

2019-06-22 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, (Actually this deviated sub-thread was intended to be about pros and cons of teenagers, not about our inevitable end.) deloptes wrote: > I said please - it is not a command - are you German? Your name sounds > German and your acting as well ;-) Juhwohl. "Please" with exclamation mark is to

Off topic: remaja (teens)

2019-06-22 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, deloptes wrote: > Please stop! You know what happens if you try to issue commands here, do you ? > BTW you are also a carbon dioxide producer ;-) Voluntarily i'm only part of the athmospheric carbon cycle, not of the unearthing of carbon for oxidation. I'm doing my best to reduce the

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

2019-06-22 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Curt wrote: > [...] teenager, who apparently are a PITA world-wide Especially for the carbon dioxide producers. :)) > which is somehow comforting. Yeah. Our past enthusiasm did not vanish. It's just with somebody else now. Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: Want to take over maintenance of package xsnow

2019-06-14 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Michael Stone wrote: > I don't think there's any need to orphan a package to change maintainers. Well possible. Three DDs = four opinions about packaging. :)) (I'm sitting on the fence, enjoying life as user and upstream.) Whatever, Willem Vermin already posted a RFS bug a week ago:

Re: Want to take over maintenance of package xsnow

2019-06-14 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Willem Vermin wrote: > the current maintainer of the package xsnow: > https://packages.debian.org/sid/xsnow > has let me know that he is not maintaining the package any more, and that it > is OK with him that I take over maintenance. > Can you please let me know how to proceed? See

Re: Debian standard installation media packages

2019-06-04 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Jacques Toerien wrote: > I suspect I have a corrupt usb install image. Which image exactly are you using ? Please tell the download URL and a checksum after download (MD5 or some SHA*). > Several files are missing or appear to be part files. Any corruption of files should change the image

Re: Debian standard installation media packages

2019-06-03 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Jacques Toerien wrote: > With the standard DVD image, the ‘build-essential’ meta package is not > included According to https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/list-dvd/debian-9.9.0-amd64-DVD-1.list.gz there should be build-essential_12.3_amd64.deb So you would have to be

Re: Using ISO image of installer DVD as repository - How?

2019-05-31 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, new idea after googling and finding several examples like Dan Ritter's proposal: Try the "exact path" form of "suite": deb file:///home/richard/dvdmount pool/main/ deb file:///home/richard/dvdmount pool/contrib/ or the usual form without mentioning (demanding ?) "stretch": deb

Re: Using ISO image of installer DVD as repository - How?

2019-05-31 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > deb file:///home/richard/dvdmount stretch main contrib Richard Owlett wrote: > > I now get a different error message: How about adding "/pool" to the URI ? deb file:///home/richard/dvdmount/pool stretch main contrib because i see in a mounted

Re: Ping as normal user (Was: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?)

2019-05-31 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > Currently the Default User depends on assumptions about local package > > management which are not obviously related to security. > > That's a future pitfall which just needs its unintentional cover removed. Reco wrote: > The way I see it, the "problematic" package got that

Re: Ping as normal user (Was: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?)

2019-05-31 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > "d/control: Drop Priority of libcap2" > > https://salsa.debian.org/debian/libcap2/commit/5386335db24bfff5cc85bda69dbcda6ab2d7d20d Reco wrote: > Ah, that's what is was. That change made into the stable, I've just checked. Not according to the package tracker: oldstable has

Re: Ping as normal user (Was: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?)

2019-05-31 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > The other way would be if the archive priority was changed between > different installs. This has happened in april 2016 (maybe related to bug 780721 ?) "d/control: Increase Priority of libcap2{,-bin} to important"

Re: Ping as normal user (Was: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?)

2019-05-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i pointed to: > > https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist.html#version-4- 0-1 > > [...] Packages may now depend on packages with a lower priority. [...] Curt wrote: > So it seems the reason invoked above is no longer valid due to a change in > policy. It can be legally

Re: Ping as normal user (Was: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?)

2019-05-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Curt wrote: > >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=780721 > >> (libcap2-bin is recommended but is not a dependancy of iputils-ping, > >> because "iputils-ping, as priority 'important', cannot declare a > >> dependency on libcap2-bin, which is priority 'optional'"). > Why is

Re: network installer will not boot

2019-05-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, regrettably (or to my luck ?) i don't have a NUC in reach. Intel says it should be possible to install GNU/Linux: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/05499/mini-pcs.html Suspicious is that they list particular NUC models for Ubuntu. (What about the others ?)

Re: network installer will not boot

2019-05-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, >I used F2 to shut off "secure boot". > Now, there are noises that suggest the > CD is being read, but nothing displays > on the monitor--- no warnings, no diagnostics, > just a blinking cursor in the upper-left > corner. Did you alread try legacy CSM (BIOS emulation) ? Have a nice day

Re: network installer will not boot

2019-05-26 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Blair, Charles E III wrote: > Image Authorization Fail. Googling EFI "Image Authorization Fail" yields lots of advise to disable Secure Boot or to switch to legacy CSM mode. Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: Debian Programming languages

2019-05-24 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Joe wrote: > geda-gschem and related electronics tools rely on Guile. I have Guile > libraries 1.8, 2.0 and 2.2 installed, and they increase in size from > 2.6MB to 11.8MB to 45MB. So something must still be going on... It is still the official glue language of GNU. (To my luck its use does

Re: Debian Programming languages

2019-05-24 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Glenn English wrote: > LISP was the first high level language I > learned. Thought I was going to die... Yeah. Why ain't there no Debian package with Guile ? https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/ https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=guile yields (after choosing a package)

Re: Debian Programming languages

2019-05-24 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, ghe wrote: > I don't recall seeing any COBOL, though :-) 1,122 lines of code in Buster. See https://sources.debian.org/stats/#sloc_current (Astounding how few languages are mentioned there. No Piet ? http://www.dangermouse.net/esoteric/piet/samples.html ) Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: Verifying Debian 9.9 with SHA and SHA.signatures

2019-05-24 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > I've never found any terminal commands to use the checksums, or the > signing key. Have a look at https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2019/04/msg00214.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2019/04/msg01149.html The first one gives an overview. You already seem to know most of

Re: Strange event handling problem with Xfce/LXDE - which pkg responsible?

2019-05-15 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Michael Lange wrote: > So far it has been > reported that this does _not_ happen with MacOs, Gnome, IceWm. I guess you can add Fvwm2 to this list. At least for me the script works as it should. > Since it only seems to happen with Xfce/Xfwm and Openbox/Lxde I think it > is more likely that

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