Printing with lprng; no CUPS! :-)

2007-06-13 Thread s. keeling
This is on Etch with Desktop Environment de-selected on install (no Gnome or KDE :-). Perhaps my mistake was in installing xserver-xorg before printer configuration. Surely then, it would notice there'd be no web browser it could be configured with? Or can you confure CUPS with w3m? :-P It's

Re: Printing with lprng; no CUPS! :-)

2007-06-13 Thread s. keeling
CaT [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 10:36:57PM +, s. keeling wrote: This is on Etch with Desktop Environment de-selected on install (no Gnome or KDE :-). Perhaps my mistake was in installing xserver-xorg before printer configuration. Surely then, it would notice there'd

Re: Printing with lprng; no CUPS! :-)

2007-06-14 Thread s. keeling
CaT [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 01:29:49AM +, s. keeling wrote: Good for you, I'm glad for you; and irrelevant. Yes, CUPS works. What if you don't want to use CUPS? Have you not seen all the posts Then don't use it. Sigh. My point is, that's far easier said than

Re: Printing with lprng; no CUPS! :-)

2007-06-14 Thread s. keeling
Anthony Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 14 Jun 2007, CaT wrote: Then don't use it. I gave up on CUPS a long time ago. I did have it working but the results Previous to this non-DE install, I did a full Etch install just to see what it was like. I had CUPS working. It printed one

Re: Printing with lprng; no CUPS! :-)

2007-06-14 Thread s. keeling
JWS [EMAIL PROTECTED]: S. Keeling wrote: So, perhaps ca. two thousand, six hundred, and ninety five files which have nothing to do with my printer? At least they're all Astonishing. I've never understood the reason for having CUPS at I've never liked it from the first time I saw

Re: Printing with lprng; no CUPS! :-)

2007-06-14 Thread s. keeling
Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 17:21:50 +, s. keeling wrote: Damned near everything drags in CUPS. I already had lprng installed, and foomatic-* wanted to remove it and install CUPS. Should I just Is it really that bad as far as CUPS is concerned? I

Re: Printing with lprng; no CUPS! :-)

2007-06-14 Thread s. keeling
Larry Irwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've got about 300 servers out there using lprng. My 1st run-in with cups gave me some surprises. 1) Removing cups generally removes X, desktop, etc... That's one of the best reasons I can think of for not installing it in the first place. So! If you want

Re: Printing with lprng; no CUPS! :-)

2007-06-14 Thread s. keeling
Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OK, I see, libgtk2.0-0 might be difficult to avoid on a desktop system and it depends on libcupsys2 in Lenny and Sid. However, the foomatic-* packages do not seem to depend on any CUPS packages. foomatic-filters and foomatic-filters-ppds both recommend

Re: Got a boot error when starting up

2007-06-14 Thread s. keeling
yong lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am not a Linux expert. I hope someone would kindly help me or give me some suggestions to fix the problem. I just installed a pre-made/customized Linux 2.6.x kernel. I converted its installation package from the .rpm format to a .deb format using alien

Re: Printing with lprng; no CUPS! :-)

2007-06-14 Thread s. keeling
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 06/14/07 16:19, s. keeling wrote: [copious output snipped] I rest my case. User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1pl1 (Debian) No wonder it wanted to pull in 145 packages: you're a text mode octogenarian! You're probably also running NetBSD on a VAX 11/785

Re: Printing with lprng; no CUPS! :-)

2007-06-14 Thread s. keeling
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: s. keeling wrote: (0) heretic /home/keeling_ aptitude -s install foomatic-gui ... The following packages will be automatically REMOVED: lprng toncho/~ sudo apt-get -s install foomatic-gui Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree

Re: Printing with lprng; no CUPS! :-)

2007-06-15 Thread s. keeling
Jan Willem Stumpel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So, in other words, Debian sans CUPS isn't possible. You may not have to actually run it, but you have to have it installed. That's ridiculous. This is viral software. True. Unfortunately this virus has already spread widely.. At least 144

Re: Printing with lprng; no CUPS! :-)

2007-06-15 Thread s. keeling
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: s. keeling wrote: (0) heretic /home/keeling_ aptitude -s install foomatic-gui ... The following packages will be automatically REMOVED: lprng toncho/~ sudo apt-get -s install foomatic-gui Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree

Re: Printing with lprng; no CUPS! :-)

2007-06-15 Thread s. keeling
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 06/15/07 11:20, s. keeling wrote: Well, I guess my system must be broken in some way, though I fail to understand why it works so well if it's broken. At least apt-get foomatic-gui is a very high-level python GNOME app. You don't have any GNOME

Re: Printing with lprng; no CUPS! :-)

2007-06-15 Thread s. keeling
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: s. keeling writes: Well, I guess my system must be broken in some way, though I fail to understand why it works so well if it's broken. At least apt-get doesn't try to blow away lprng: There is still something odd here. I don't have most of those

Re: Printing with lprng; no CUPS! :-)

2007-06-15 Thread s. keeling
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: s. keeling writes: There is no Gnome or KDE on this thing, yet xscreensaver works just as it always has. And why wouldn't it? It doesn't depend on any Gnome or KDE stuff. That's what I'm saying. It doesn't need them. I also see there's an xscreensaver

Re: Printing with lprng; no CUPS! :-)

2007-06-16 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Daniel Burrows: On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 06:20:36PM +, s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There is still something odd here. I don't have most of those packages installed (I don't use a desktop environment) but apt

Re: Upgrading thousands of boxes via APT

2007-06-17 Thread s. keeling
Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I was wondering if there's a Debian specific tool that could facilitate managing thousands of machines via APT. I'm aware that many people would recommend a sync option, where 1 machine serves as the master, and the others sync off of that. Perhaps that is the

Re: Upgrading thousands of boxes via APT

2007-06-18 Thread s. keeling
Bob Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED]: s. keeling wrote: Ben wrote: I was wondering if there's a Debian specific tool that could facilitate managing thousands of machines via APT. I'm aware that many people would recommend a sync option, where 1 machine serves as the master

Re: firefox slows system

2007-06-18 Thread s. keeling
Russell L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Over the past few weeks, all the tasks on my desktop machine (Debian Etch, Gnome desktop, typically booted twice daily) have been getting ever more sluggish. Others have suggested disabling pango if you've no need for foreign language support. export

Re: filtering processes

2007-06-19 Thread s. keeling
Jhair Tocancipa Triana [EMAIL PROTECTED]: pol writes: I would like to display running processes together with their time elapsed since they were launched (real time, not the time spent by the cpu) and sort them with time. ps -eo pid,comm,args,etime Wow. :-) Nothing he couldn't

Re: OS File Permission issue (chown -R root.root ../)

2007-06-19 Thread s. keeling
Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OK.. So i was in my /root/ directory and put just one too many .s in By /root/, do you mean root's $HOME (~root), or do you mean root of the filesystem, /? the line... Now i have a lot of files that i own!! -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is

Re: shrink /home

2007-06-21 Thread s. keeling
Marcelo Chiapparini [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I need to shrink my /home partition (/home has its own partition in the system). It is formatted in xfs, so shrink is not supported. In order to shrink it I am planning to use gparted in the following way: 1 - To do a backup of all files in the

Re: how to find the specs of a monitor

2007-06-21 Thread s. keeling
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 07:56:01PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: It is not stupid at all. The problem is that I do not know the model of this monitor. All it says on the LCD panel is that it is a Dell monitor.

Re: Unexpected irq trap when booting

2007-06-21 Thread s. keeling
Jacob S [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:34:43 -0700 Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 06:49:41PM -0500, Jacob S wrote: Good thought, but acpi=off did not make any (noticeable) difference. It still hung during boot with an

Re: scripting - cat breaking line

2007-06-24 Thread s. keeling
L.V.Gandhi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --=_Part_150443_25730719.1182692831198 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline T24gNi8yMy8wNywgR2FicmllbCBQYXJyb25kbyA8Zy5wYXJyb25kb0BnbWFpbC5jb20+IHdyb3Rl

Re: time zone

2007-06-24 Thread s. keeling
j j [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The time on my desktop is set to UTC. I'll like to read it EST. Is there See /etc/default/rcS Please don't post html to mailing lists. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling Linux

Re: size and position of iceweasel window

2007-06-25 Thread s. keeling
Steve Kleene [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 17:13:55, I wrote Is there a way to make the iceweasel window consistently pop up at the same position every time? On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 20:18:09 +0100, Liam O'Toole replied: That's been a bug in firefox/iceweasel for as long as I

Re: time zone

2007-06-25 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from j j: See /etc/default/rcS rcS is supposed to check /etc/localtime or /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Eastern. I dont have those files. Can I generate those files with a text editor? Weird. No, those come in (or are created by?) the tzdata package. aptitude update aptitude

Re: micro debian

2006-10-28 Thread s. keeling
Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Douglas Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For ancillary computer uses (e.g. a firewall), having an install option that focuses on a small footprint would be usefull, eg. no man pages, AFAIK small regular debian packages include the man pages and docs and

Re: switching from mbox to maildir in mutt, exim, etc.: how?

2006-10-28 Thread s. keeling
Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm looking at my system backups and notice that there is some clutter form mbox files being updated almost daily. I think the clutter would be reduced by switching to maildir (true?), but I wonder about other consequences of such a switch. In particular,

Re: Good reader for /usr/share/doc/ and/or man pages ?

2006-10-28 Thread s. keeling
Ralph Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 10/27/2006 05:50 AM, HXC wrote: I am searching for a reader that 'automatically' reads /usr/share/doc/ and/or man pages. It would be especially great it such a program would list the available (Debian) readme's available in the /usr/share/doc

Re: Recent spam increase

2006-10-28 Thread s. keeling
David Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I didn't explain that fully as it didn't seem relevant to the point I was trying to make. I receive the vast majority of my mail directly by SMTP to the machine which has my personal mail store. Do a 'dig tonix.org mx' (my domain) and you'll get

Re: mutt, gnome terminal, xemacs, gnuserv, debian etch

2006-11-05 Thread s. keeling
Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 02:47:21PM -0600, Russell L. Harris wrote: The package chain is as follows: INCOMING MAIL: pop3 server @ my ISP -- getmail4 -- maildrop -- [maildir] -- mutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fetchmail -- procmail -- mutt Does

Re: timezone and clock error

2006-11-05 Thread s. keeling
Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 2006-11-02, Dean Allen Provins wrote: Hello: It seems that the PC clocks here in Alberta are still on daylight savings time. This is odd as Alberta's clocks switched back last weekend. /etc/timezone contains: Canada/Mountain

Re: Using sysctl in debian considered harmful?!

2006-11-11 Thread s. keeling
David Clymer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Someone has been trying to convice me that advising someone to use sysctl or sysctl.conf to query, or set kernel parameters is dangerous, or unsupported in Debian. In particular, enabling/disabling ip forwarding. I happen to think this is BS. 'Sounds like

Re: mutt, gnome terminal, xemacs, gnuserv, debian etch

2006-11-12 Thread s. keeling
Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 07:15:54PM +, s. keeling wrote: Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 02:47:21PM -0600, Russell L. Harris wrote: The package chain is as follows: INCOMING MAIL: pop3 server @ my ISP

Re: Daily update package archive

2006-11-12 Thread s. keeling
T [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What is the recommended way to 'aptitude update' daily and update the files in /var/cache/apt/archives/ as well (without actually install anything)? Or, anywhere I can read up about it? man aptitude: -d, --download-only Download packages to the

Re: ASCII file to ISO-8859-* to UTF-8

2006-11-12 Thread s. keeling
Andrea Ganduglia [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi. I have a lots ascii file with ecoding iso-8859-* and I must convert those in UTF-8. How? man recode -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling Linux Counter #80292 - -

Re: ASCII file to ISO-8859-* to UTF-8

2006-11-13 Thread s. keeling
ochnap2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sunday 12 November 2006 10:52, Andrea Ganduglia wrote: Hi. I have a lots ascii file with ecoding iso-8859-* and I must convert those in UTF-8. How? convmv (0) heretic /home/keeling_ aptitude show convmv ... Description: filename encoding conversion tool

Re: test2 please ignore

2006-11-16 Thread s. keeling
Debeselis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is an excellent way to get yourself killfiled. Potential spammers do this sort of crap all the time. It doesn't fool anyone. There are many, far better, venues with which to test email transport functionality. Flooding tens of thousands of mailing list

Re: brute force ssh login attempts and how to Disrupt them

2006-11-16 Thread s. keeling
Martin McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: One day, I noticed one of those attacks starting. What Much simpler: % /etc/init.d/ssh stop sshd is only necessary to ssh *in* to the box. If you've so far managed to remain ignorant of the sshd attacks going on, you might need to reconsider

Re: Most SQL efficient open source CMS available? Thanks!

2006-11-21 Thread s. keeling
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: s. keeling writes: My guess is postgres is what you need. PostgreSQL, to be exact. The package in Sarge is postgresql. Sid Thanks. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling

Re: Maze of Twisty Turny Little Package Managers

2006-11-28 Thread s. keeling
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It appears that there are a lot of tools for managing packages and dependencies on debian - dpkg, apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, . There is only one package manager in Debian: Dpkg. Apt is a dependency-resolving library that runs on top of Dpkg.

Re: aptitude --mind-your-own-business option?

2006-12-09 Thread s. keeling
Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [very entertaining discussion snipped] the automatically remove unused packages option. When in doubt, run aptitude install -sf, check what it wants to do and smack it over the head with keep-all if you do not like what you see. (0) heretic /home/keeling_

Re: Replacing running kernel

2006-12-11 Thread s. keeling
Sami Liedes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I wondered if anyone can help me fix things. I think I might have misconfigured something. You have not. I clearly remember getting big warnings and a _question_ that allows me to break off when installing a kernel that replaces the currently running

Re: installing gutenprint on Debian

2006-12-12 Thread s. keeling
Michael Fothergill [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have been looking on linuxprinting.org for help finding a driver for my Epson D88 that doesn't like being configured at the moment. The site says that the driver for the D88 lives in the Gutenprint package. Going on the sourceforge site to dow

Re: moving /var

2006-12-21 Thread s. keeling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 01:41:11PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 14:36 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently tried to move /var to a new partition. Booted from some live cd, moved it and edited /etc/fstab to suit. Broke the

Re: ignore additional launches

2006-12-21 Thread s. keeling
Mark Grieveson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello. I set up a computer in a homeless shelter, with access to the Bravo. :-) One problem, though, is some people feel that to press the mouse more will speed up the opening of an application (like Firefox, for example.) They'll repeatedly press

Re: moving /var

2006-12-22 Thread s. keeling
celejar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 12/21/06, s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note mv doesn't work between filesystems. cp -a or tar/untar (or any other archiver) is the right way. Are you sure this is true? I think I use mv to do that all the time. I stand corrected. It was that way

Re: Why Disable Root ssh login?

2006-12-24 Thread s. keeling
David Jardine [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, Dec 23, 2006 at 10:55:43AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: Michelle Konzack writes: Passwords long as a rat-queue are realy secure... What is a rat-queue? It could be what lines up along the rail of a sinking ship, but I think she meant rat's

Re: questions for when Etch goes stable

2006-12-24 Thread s. keeling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hope something starts to work soon. It has before. If you are on adial-up, I hope you have a package caceh somewhere so you won't have to repeatedly download the same packages as you try different approaches. The various package managers are all

Re: A market perspective on the impact of dunc-tanc

2006-12-26 Thread s. keeling
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Default User wrote: IMHO, the idea of paying privileged, pet, mercenary developers, while others work for free, was a VERY BAD IDEA! Well, that's your perogative. However, who said they were privledged or pets or mercenaries? With all respect to the

Re: xprint config

2007-07-10 Thread s. keeling
Adam Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: does anybody here have any xprint config experience? My old workstation is getting a bit bloated, xprint is up the creek and I can't print to file / PS / PDF. I can't see anything visibly wrong with the configuration. I tried deinstalling and reinstalling,

Re: lpd: cron.daily found errors, run checkpc for details

2007-07-10 Thread s. keeling
Kees de Koster [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm running Debian Testing on a server, after the update on last Friday I get from logcheck the error 'Jul 7 06:58:00 minidragon lpd: cron.daily found errors, run checkpc for details.' If I run checkpc I get the message 'Warning - lp: cannot stat lp

Re: [OT] Interview with Con Kolivas on Linux failures

2007-07-26 Thread s. keeling
Bob Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David Brodbeck wrote: To me it always smacked a little of me-too-ism, too ... the GNU folks felt Linux wasn't GNU-ish enough, so they had to go write their own kernel. The GNU Hurd has existed long before Linux existed. Hurd has been in development

Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat....

2007-07-28 Thread s. keeling
Michael Fothergill [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: Tommi Asiala [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael Fothergill wrote: I suggest you should try this new thing called Searching the web. It can give you nice links to web pages such as: http://wiki.debian.org/PDFViewers Don't suspect, read the web

Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat....

2007-07-28 Thread s. keeling
Brad Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:57:11 -0500 John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you actually _need_ acroread? Xpdf isn't good enough? IIRC, Xpdf doesn't have the ability to do form filling. With acroread, you can fill out forms (they have to be set up to

Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat....

2007-07-28 Thread s. keeling
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 07/28/07 13:46, Michael Fothergill wrote: I was wrong. As Jesus said in the Bible O, ye of little faith. I Yeshua didn't speak English. But that's a way different topic. You spelt $DEITY wrong. I spell it Murphy. -- Any technology

Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat....

2007-07-28 Thread s. keeling
Andrew J. Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 7/28/07, s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yeshua didn't speak English. But that's a way different topic. You spelt $DEITY wrong. I spell it Murphy. *starts popcorn in the microwave* Uhhh ... That means

Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat....

2007-07-28 Thread s. keeling
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: s. keeling writes: That means Your comment contains negative information value, and I'm going for a walk? As in, So, what do you think about goldfish? No. It means A flamewar is about to start and I am going to sit back, eat popcorn, and watch the show

Re: cups yet again

2007-08-06 Thread s. keeling
graham [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 05:02:07PM +0100, graham wrote: Yet another cups problem (the one program which makes me feel like I do when running windows - like putting a foot through the computer). So why run cups? Use LPRng and

Re: replacement for apt-listchanges?

2007-08-06 Thread s. keeling
Vincent Lefevre [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 2007-08-06 15:13:10 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: because breakage due to python occurs too frequently), it is important I still don't have any evidence that python breaks frequently. This is based on personal experience. Unfortunately I haven't kept

Re: Needed: spamtrap for...

2007-08-09 Thread s. keeling
Eric d'Alibut [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm sure anyone with responsibility for spam filtering has seen messages, many of them, which meet the following criteria: HTML formatted empty body one attachment, which is a pdf file Is there a spamassassin test which would score such messages

Re: Sarge-Etch Upgrade Minor Problems

2007-08-09 Thread s. keeling
Glennie Vignarajah [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Le Wednesday 08 August 2007, Aikins, Ronald (Ron) (CIV) disait: The default settings for vi have been changed. Display looks weird in terms of colors, etc. Can't figure what vi/vim file needs changing. I have backups of course of all pre-upgrade

Re: newbie here - system administration question

2007-08-10 Thread s. keeling
Per olof Ljungmark [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Where except on the local machine can I find Debian man pages? http://manpages.debian.net/ is not very informative I'm afraid... FWIW, I've always considered a *nix box which doesn't have manpages installed, a clumsily installed *nix box. Newbie:

Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?

2007-08-10 Thread s. keeling
ss11223 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Aug 10, 10:30 am, s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just remember to tell you editor to inserts spaces as tab and set the tab width to something reasonable like 4. E, yuck! It's code like that which makes me

Re: newbie here - system administration question

2007-08-10 Thread s. keeling
Per olof Ljungmark [EMAIL PROTECTED]: s. keeling wrote: Per olof Ljungmark [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Where except on the local machine can I find Debian man pages? http://manpages.debian.net/ is not very informative I'm afraid... [snip] And, if the online manpages does not work, why link

Re: Recomendations - becoming a C soldier.

2007-08-10 Thread s. keeling
Orestes leal [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi folks, 2 weeks ago I began to learn C, my advances are very good, my question it's that, The topic sounds funny but it's mostly serious, QUESTION: Studying C 'every day' 4 hours with good understanding, writing at least 10 programs to test this

Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?

2007-08-10 Thread s. keeling
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just remember to tell you editor to inserts spaces as tab and set the tab width to something reasonable like 4. E, yuck! It's code like that which makes me happy for emacs: C-x h# mark entire buffer M-x untabify # replace

Re: shutdown

2007-08-12 Thread s. keeling
Mark Grieveson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello. I'm using Debian Etch. My machine does not completely shutdown -- I'm required to manually press the button (it's like being back in Check /var/log/messages for anything mentioning ACPI. The kernel may have decided your mboard is too old and has

Re: Source of Debian wisdom

2007-08-19 Thread s. keeling
Mark Neidorff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recently I've set up a Debian Etch box which I'm nearly ready to bring up full time (currently using a different distribution...been a linux user for over 10 years). Fourteen here. :-) Here's an example of what this message is about: I've been reading

Re: Disadvantages of Iceweasel instead of Firefox

2007-08-25 Thread s. keeling
Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As you all know, Debian Etch released with Iceweasel instead of Firefox. This is totally okay, but some applications (like X-Chat or Gaim/Pidgin) still uses firefox %u command instead of iceweasel %u for Never had this problem. The only problem I bumped

Re: Good fdisk Practices

2007-08-25 Thread s. keeling
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 08/24/07 11:16, David Brodbeck wrote: Also, is there any good reason to have a separate /boot on a modern system? I always thought /boot was just a kludge to get around old BIOSes that couldn't load anything that wasn't on the first part of the I

Re: cannot logoff/shutdown properly

2007-08-25 Thread s. keeling
Manu Hack [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 8/24/07, Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would still like to know whether your system hangs if you try to switch to a terminal without shutting down gdm. If I have a graphical login prompt and press CTRL + ALT + Back I can go to a text mode

Snmpwalk: Timeout: No Response from 192.168.1.36 (was: Re: I hope You are satisfied now :))

2007-09-01 Thread s. keeling
dunkel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The original problem was: However if I run snmpwalk -v 1 -c public 192.168.1.36 system on the stable box, with 192.168.1.36 the IP address of the testing box, i get: Timeout: No Response from 192.168.1.36 snmpd is up and running, I can ping both ways, there

Re: Help! Update screwed my box up 'automagically'!

2007-09-02 Thread s. keeling
Jeff D [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For your video problem, you can try : dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver Just a nit; that should be xserver-xorg. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -

Re: What uses xorg process?

2007-09-02 Thread s. keeling
Thomas Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: According to top, the xorg process uses ~25-40% of my AMD 3000+ CPU several times a minute for several seconds at a time. I suspect some other program uses xorg to execute its code for it. How do I find out what process uses the xorg process to do its

Re: Problems regarding sound ... Or udev?

2007-09-05 Thread s. keeling
Chris Lale [EMAIL PROTECTED]: vivek shah wrote: I am using Debain Etch on my Acer laptop and it was running fine till the sound stopped working suddenly. I was playing a movie on [snip] Please note I did no upgrade or package install when this problem occured. It just

Re: mail messages with only html

2007-09-15 Thread s. keeling
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 09/13/07 17:36, Richard Lyons wrote: This is becoming more of a problem. There is a growing number of firms that are incapable of sending out normal emails. They insist on sending blank messages with an html attachment only. Of course this is usually

Re: cdrecord problem - Correction

2007-09-17 Thread s. keeling
Thomas H. George [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Joerg Schily's original cdrecord works perfectly. Apparently I have a box of bad blank cdrw disks, 100 of them unfortunately. I tried cdrw disks from another box and cdrecord ran the Lite-On drive at 25x with no problems. fwiw, I've heard a lot

Re: Sex spam again on the list

2007-09-18 Thread s. keeling
Peter Teunissen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, September 18, 2007 04:39, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Such a system is implemented by spamcop (www.spamcop.net). Their block list, For directly blocking mail however, you'd be better of using the zen.spamhaus.org combined blocklist wich

Re: LPR and CUPS

2007-09-20 Thread s. keeling
Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 06:35:15PM -0500, cothrige wrote: Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cupsys-bsd package provide /usr/bin/lpr. you should not need to install an additional package to get lpr functionality.=20 Well,

Re: [for the moderators] I'm sorry

2007-09-21 Thread s. keeling
Lo'oris [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I was really believing I was posting to the debian/Italian mailing list, sorry for bothering you twice. Have a good work. Belissimo? I've no idea what you're talking about, but non-native English speakers with your ability with English are welcome here. Your

Re: where is kernel-headers for etch

2007-09-21 Thread s. keeling
Serena Cantor [EMAIL PROTECTED]: etch use kernel 2.6.18 where is its kernel header? I've been trying compiling driver for rt2500-based card, Certainly, the card does not work out of the box on etch as some said. I've been taken in. aptitude update aptitude search $KEYWORD spits

Re: How encrypt cron output mail [was: exim4 with gpg?]

2007-09-22 Thread s. keeling
Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 06:17:38PM +0200, Peter Jordan wrote: Douglas A. Tutty, 09/22/07 17:24: On Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 04:42:25PM +0200, Peter Jordan wrote: i run debian etch with exim4 (smarthost configuration) for outbound emails. Is it

Re: ls sort order: new, bad, behaviour

2007-09-22 Thread s. keeling
Eric d'Alibut [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Last night I installed, and then removed, the ftpd and proftpd debs, Glad I don't use 'em. in that order. Now I cannot by hook or crook get 'ls' to behave as it did before those ftp experiments. 'ls' now sorts strictly by filename -- including directories

Re: ls sort order: new, bad, behaviour

2007-09-23 Thread s. keeling
Eric d'Alibut [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 9/23/07, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: namely, an 'ls' that sorts directories first, and ordinary files afterwards? Do others actually see that behaviour in terminals? Sure. That's how it works for me. Not for me. I get all dotfiles

Re: binary packages versus source

2007-09-24 Thread s. keeling
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: THe binaries you download from debian repositories are built using an automatic system. THat system must be stable and reliable. So, it uses and older, more tested and stable version of gcc to compile.=20 No, the debian

Re: binary packages versus source

2007-09-24 Thread s. keeling
pietia [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Joey Hess pisze: No, the debian buildds run unstable (except for the buildds used to build updates for stable). for whitch architecture are optimized ? less /boot/config-$(uname -r) -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.

Re: How to reply in the mailing lists

2007-09-24 Thread s. keeling
Sid Arth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Im sorry if this isnt the best place to voice such a question, but I Perfect place. am a bit new to mailing lists and so on. I was wondering how to reply to a message but in a way so everybody in the list gets it, but without starting a whole new thread. Hit

Re: binary packages versus source

2007-09-25 Thread s. keeling
pietia [EMAIL PROTECTED]: s. keeling pisze: pietia [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Joey Hess pisze: No, the debian buildds run unstable (except for the buildds used to build updates for stable). for whitch architecture are optimized ? less /boot/config-$(uname -r) No, probably

Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-25 Thread s. keeling
Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mark Phillips wrote: Mike, you have to realize that support is provided by volunteers who have lives (families, children, jobs, little league, etc.) outside of supporting the software. There is no guarentee of any support when you install Debian. But it

Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-25 Thread s. keeling
Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mike Bird wrote: On Tuesday 25 September 2007 12:45, Mike McCarty wrote: I'm not trying to be mean, either. I'm reporting a single event. We're all volunteers here. You too. If you find time I guess some of us would appreciate your posting links to

Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-25 Thread s. keeling
Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Martin Marcher wrote: Why is it that simple statments, preceded by disclaimers indicating that they are not complaints, get treated as complaints? Hello, I'm interested in the job offer you posted on Sarcasm is unbecoming, especially since I

Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-25 Thread s. keeling
Roger B.A. Klorese [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kent West wrote: Like he said, he's not complaining, or asking for help, or asking for information; he's just saying that we have room for improvement. Well, yes, but it remains to be seen whether everyone considers this room for improvement. A

Re: xmodmap again - not solved after all

2007-09-26 Thread s. keeling
Mumia W.. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 09/25/2007 09:25 AM, Anthony Campbell wrote: I've twice thought I'd solved this one but no. To recap: my .xinitrc contains the line: xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap. which has worked for many months or even years. In the last couple of weeks the command is not being

Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-26 Thread s. keeling
Nate Bargmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007 Sep 26 04:27 -0500]: Btw, THIS IS ALL VOLUNTEER WORK HERE. fyi. Yup. And I for one appreciate our Debian Volunteer Overlords. ;-) Ah geez. You made me laugh. I even considered typing LOL ... Crap! -- Any

Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-26 Thread s. keeling
Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nate Bargmann wrote: keeling: Plenty of stuff, lots of replies and multipost threads. Can't see any bug reports. Guess it's off to the BTS to search there. Drat. How 'bout that? Search of the BTS for submitter reports no reports found. Huh? What

Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-26 Thread s. keeling
Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Roger B.A. Klorese wrote: a lot of time working on non-goals; the question at hand is whether adoption by the level of user in question is or is not a goal. I'm satisfied to leave that up to the individual. It's none of my business. Caveat emptor

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