Re: What's a debian kid look like?
Australian, 21 years old, of equally mixed Tongan and Scots descent. Computer science undergrad (got into my course on the strength of my English and Literature marks, though, heh heh. Hooray for bizarre statewide marking systems! :). Happy hip-hop, electronic and rock fan. Like Python a lot, but mostly program in C for school. Student of Shintaiikudo karate. Left-leaning. Intimidated by crowds. Mostly amiable. Done :). -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midspark.net/shazbot/
Re: Nautilus in Woody Questions
On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 11:10:18PM -0500, Glen Snyder wrote: I installed Nautilus from testing, and let it redraw the desktop. I'm using sawfish with gnome. Nautilus drew some nice icons with sym-links. Anyway, it threw the icons underneath the Sawfish icons, so it looks lousy. I tried deleting the old icons, but they reappear when I login. I can't seem to drag them out of the way, either. Suggestions? Sawfish is a window manager and a window manager only, so it shouldn't be drawing any desktop icons. Are you sure you're not still running GMC or something similar? Another oddity: If I open html files with Nautilus, they are displayed as raw html textincluding nautilus-help (I had to use konqueror to open it). You need nautilus-mozilla. Hope this helps :). -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midspark.net/shazbot/
Re: how to disable gnome panel
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 11:18:53PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: My problem with numerous GNOME apps (goats comes to mind) is that they start the panel. This is one of several extremely annoying GNOME behaviors. Any possibility to override? Maybe you're having this problem because goats isn't a GNOME app proper, but a panel applet? Other panel applets have the same (irritating) behaviour, but I've never encountered it in any real GNOME applications. I'm not sure if this is something you can override. Probably not, unfortunately. If you're averse to running the panel for screen real-estate rather than memory considerations you could create a tiny little floating panel that contained only goats... I probably wouldn't even if I could, though, it's a pretty sensibilities-offending prospect :). -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midspark.net/shazbot/
Re: how to disable gnome panel
On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 01:23:29AM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: ...though that does suggest maybe I want to look at gnome-gnoteswhich doesn't exist. Bad news, gnotes is actually another applet (it's in gnome-applets) :). It's not so much the memory (thought that's an issue), it's just a matter of environment / desktop control. I don't like GNOME. There are a few apps which are reasonable. I'll use them. Loading the entire environment for a single goddamned little utility is a joke though. I think restricting panel applets to running within the panel is a reasonable move, as most would probably not make much sense running outside of it, and probably depend on the panel in strange and mysterious ways. I think the problem here is that goats (and other apps that have had the same problem, assuming [probably dangerously :)] that our problem is that these panel-loading apps are indeed panel applets) should be a proper, full-fledged application that has panel representation if the user requests it, rather than a top-heavy panel app. There's a distinction between integration and interoperability I'd thought we'd learned in the 1990s. Hey, we're still making usability errors that the Mac got right almost twenty years ago. We learn slow :). -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midspark.net/shazbot/
Re: how to disable gnome panel
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 06:02:59PM +0800, Yu wrote: I want to use window maker as my window manager and I also install gnome on my woody box but it's to crowded with window maker dock and gnome panel together . So I want to disable my gnome panel. but I read the help document ,it says I must have one panel on my desktop Is apt-remove the only to get rid of gnome panel? Is there any other way to disable gnome panel not to uninstall it? Thanks Are you using a display manager, like gdm or xdm? (that is, do you have a graphical login?) Or do you start X from the console with startx? If the latter, just edit .xsession in your home directory so it contains wmaker and whatever other programs you'd like to run at startup -- ie, wmaker nautilus If you're using GDM or something similar you'll need app-specific instructions. So, let the list know where you're at :). That said, there's not much point in having the Gnome panel installed if you're not planning on using it :). -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midspark.net/shazbot/
[quickly veering OT] Re: File Manager
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 11:57:29AM +0100, Joachim Trinkwitz wrote: Both suffer from the same inability to deal with floppy drives in a sane way, wrt mounting/umounting (Nautilus most, cause there isn't even a default floppy icon on the desktop). Sorry all you Unix Wizards, but I'm dealing with many users who comes from the Wonderfull Windows World, and they are incurably used to use the floppy drive in that Worlds Way, and this is the point where the _greatest_ aversions against Linux are arising -- really, if this problem goes away for them, I bet nearly all would be satisfied with a desktop like GNOMEs (I don't appreciate KDE very much, but if it has a working solution for the floppy drive, I think I will migrate my users to this desktop). Nautilus tends in most cases towards the Mac way of doing things, which, different though it may be, is usually more usable than the Windows way. Nautilus ideally should create a floppy icon on the desktop when a user inserts a disk (and, in turn, destroy it when he removes the disk), which IMHO is a more sane approach than having an always-present floppy icon that only works if a disk is in the drive. You may want to keep an eye on Linux Mandrake, though, as they've put a couple of guys on to hacking up Nautilus so that it follows Windows conventions. Or you could use KDE. Whatever :). -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midspark.net/shazbot/
Re: how to disable gnome panel
On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:08:20PM +0100, Michael Wagner wrote: I don't think this is the right way. I think that the calling of the windowmanager must be the last argument in ~/.xsession. Like this: snip! PS: If this is not right, can somebody correct me? I am the king of idiots. You are indeed right :). -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midspark.net/shazbot/
Re: BIG xwindow apps
On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 12:45:59AM -0800, Craig Dickson wrote: I have never tried to use X on anything less than 1024x768, but why should it be any worse than running MS Windows at the same resolution? (Purely considered as a graphical display -- ignore the issue of MS Windows crashing left and right.) It often just feels like X app authors assume all users run at fairly high resolutions, and Windows app authors don't. In terms of cramped-ness, Windows at 800 by 600 feels about the same as X at 1024 by 768. This is of course completely subjective, and certainly dependant on the kinds of apps you want to run (the Gnome desktop environment, in my case), but yeah. There you go :). -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midspark.net/shazbot/
Re: File Manager
On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 10:58:23PM +0100, Arnout Bruinsma wrote: L.S. I'm looking for a file manager for use under Window Maker. In SuSe I used xfm but I can't find an xfm Debian package. I hope somebody has a suggestion If you can spare the memory, try Nautilus :). -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midspark.net/shazbot/
Re: files in /var/cache/apt/archives
On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 09:23:33AM +0700, Oki DZ wrote: I donwloaded several .deb files, and then transferred to my machine. I'd like the newly stored files get recognized by apt-get; so that when I do apt-get dist-upgrade, I don't have to download some of the files that are already in the directory. Moving them into /var/cache/apt/archives should be enough -- it's what I did (often :) when I was still playing around with Debian and installing and reinstalling it daily. BTW, if I just installed the files using dpkg (I want to upgrade to Woody), would that make my system to be Woody? (I'm afraid that there some magical things behind apt-get dist-upgrade.) Pretty much! :) -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midspark.net/shazbot/
Re: Potato system (Re: Help with X (after upgrade to Woody))
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 12:28:25PM +0700, Oki DZ wrote: I believe that I've been using Potato; at least, I did an apt-get dist-upgrade on it (on my system). Anyway, what is the right sequence? Potato - Sid - Woody? Sid - Potato - Woody? or Potato - Woody - Sid? The last one is the closest -- Potato (stable, version 2.2), Woody (testing, version 3.0?) and then Sid, which is permanently unstable. So when Woody is released, it'll be Woody (stable), some other Toy Story name (testing), and Sid again. Hope this helps :). -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midspark.net/shazbot/
Re: Newbie installation: any autodetection of devices?
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 04:07:22PM +0700, Oki DZ wrote: To get into X Window, RedHat would be better than Debian. Yup. Or, better yet, Mandrake! Then move them on to Debian after a couple of months, when they're a bit more world wise :). But for installing individual packages, I think .deb is better than .rpm. Well, it's due to apt-get, I believe. Yes! But also, and a lot of people who only really glance at Debian before installing Red Hat or similar, is the fact that Debian packages are generally of a very very high quality. Packages are maintained by people that care about the software they're packaging and (generally) understand the Debian system very well. And when there's something wrong with a package, bugs are filed and generally stomped on quick-smart. I recall Red Hat packages varying pretty wildly in quality when I last played around with a Red Hat system. -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midspark.net/shazbot/
Re: Desktop icons in Gnome 1.4 (woody)
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 10:10:24PM +0100, Dominique Deleris wrote: I'm using Gnome 1.4 + Sawfish from Woody. When I create a new shortcut on the desktop, I can't customize its icon... What are you using to draw the desktop? Nautilus? GMC? -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midspark.net/shazbot/
Re: Help with X (after upgrade to Woody)
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 11:49:47PM -0800, jennyw wrote: I just tried to upgrade a Potato installation to Woody. A lot of things went wrong (details at the end of the message) but the main problem now is that X doesn't work. At one point in time while doing apt-get dist-upgrade the installer strongly suggested installing xserver-xfree86 instead of using older xservers (I was using mach64 previously). Then it was unable to continue. So I typed apt-get install xserver-xfree86 and was able to continue until it said that xserver-mach64 was missing. I then typed apt-get install xserver-mach64 and was then able to continue with apt-get dist-upgrade. Righty-oh. My knowledge of X is probably only slightly more rounded than yours, but I've been through all this so I might be able to help :). xserver-mach64 should not have been required. I mean, you can use it if you want, but like the installer recommends, if you can use xserver-xfree86, you should. And! Your card is supported in XFree86 4.1, so there's not reason not to :). How did it complain about missing xserver-mach64? Was it because there were packages that were to be installed depended on it? What were they? Anyway, the first thing you should do is try to apt-get remove (or dpkg --purge, if you're feeling vindictive and don't mind handling getting rid of its dependants manually :) xserver-mach64, 'cause you don't need it and its presence only complicates things. Once you've done that, try dpkg-reconfigure'ing xserver-xfree86. And once you've done that, try to get X running again and report what happens :). When it set xserver-xfree86 it asked for a module. I chose ati since that seemed the most logical to me of the choices offered (there was no option for mach64). The install of X continued smoothly. Unfortunately, now X won't load. And I'm not sure how to change the default xserver ... what config file is this in? Er, I'm not sure there is a config file to change the default xserver (I'm waiting to get shouted down for saying something so wrong, though :); programs like startx just launch /etc/X11/X, which is a symlink to your X server of choice (so, in your case, you'd want it to be /usr/bin/X11/xserver-xfree86 or somesuch). For version 4+ X servers, I think you list your card somewhere in XF86Config-4 so it knows which module to load, but that should get sorted out by apt when you install xserver-xfree86. Hopefully. Maybe. Also: when you say X won't load, what do you mean? Does it go straight to console when you boot up? What happens when you try startx or something similar? What's in .xsession-errors? P.S. The whole story with the upgrade to Woody goes like this ... story snipped This is a familiar tale, and I'm sure not only to myself :). Hope some of this helps. Keep on truckin', you'll get everything sorted eventually :). -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midspark.net/shazbot/
Re: Help with X (after upgrade to Woody)
On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 01:21:23AM -0800, jennyw wrote: Anyway, the first thing you should do is try to apt-get remove (or dpkg --purge, if you're feeling vindictive and don't mind handling I just tried this; same results as before. We need to know what these results were! :) xserver-mach64 is not needed, so any packages that depend on it can almost certainly go when you ditch it. How it is complaining? Also: when you say X won't load, what do you mean? Does it go straight I start X using /etc/init.d/gdm start. The screen blinks for a bit, then it stops, then it blinks for a bit more, then it stops, then it does it again. I assume it's trying the three video modes (640x480, 800x600 and 1024x768) that I selected, and is finding that none of them works. By the way, my system apparently has no startx. Don't use gdm until you get X working. gdm could be introducing more hassles, and certainly more complexity than we need right now :). And for startx: # apt-get install xbase-clients Any other suggestions? I did have this working well under Potato. Potato uses version 3 X servers; Woody and unstable support both the version 3 X servers and the shiny and new version 4 one. We're trying to get the shiny and new version going :). -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midspark.net/shazbot/
Re: Potato system (Re: Help with X (after upgrade to Woody))
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 08:41:03AM +0700, Oki DZ wrote: Long ago, I used unstable, which was potato. Now, I use unstable, and I thought it was potato. That sounds a bit like a koan :). I guess, now I'm using a potato system with woody's apps. Correct? It sounds like you've just been unstable for a long long time, which would mean Potato and Woody packages would've at one time been installed on your system, but that you've been using Sid the whole time :). -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midspark.net/shazbot/
Re: Ximian Gnome on Woody?
On Sun, Nov 25, 2001 at 09:09:24PM -0800, jennyw wrote: It helps to know why people are suggesting to not go with Ximian. I guess if the same stuff is available via apt there's not much of a point. This is not the only reason -- Ximian's packages often conflict a bit nonsensically with packages (and not necessarily Gnome-related ones) from Debian main, and don't integrate as nicely with a Debian system as the real packages do. I currently have Potato on a system that I'm going to upgrade to Woody at one point. I was thinking of installing Ximian Gnome on it in the meantime ... is this going to cause huge problems? Should I just upgrade to Woody and not even bother with Ximian in the meantime? How soon are you planning on upgrading? If not for a while, go Ximian, as the packages are recent and Ximian's Gnome distribution is pretty nicely polished. If soon, then don't bother, as it's not worth the trouble rooting out all of your Ximian packages when time comes to move to Debian's own. -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midspark.net/shazbot/
Re: Ximian Gnome on Woody?
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 09:18:27AM -, Liam Ward wrote: On that note, if anyone has backed out Ximian Gnome and could outline the steps, I'd appreciate it. Someone cleverer than I am has probably automated this, but I just did # dpkg -l | grep ximian and purged all the packages listed. Tedious, but it did the job :). -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midspark.net/shazbot/
Re: Missing /dev/mouse
On Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 11:44:18PM -0600, MysteryMeat wrote: I've got it just plugged in a normal, plain PS/2 plug. I don't think it needs any special device doohickey, but it's an optical mouse that has a USB-to-PS/2 plug. Any idea where I could find the device to symlink to? # ln -s /dev/psaux /dev/mouse :) -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midspark.net/shazbot/
Re: fish tank desktop background?
Related: I've now seen, twice, a little fish swim across my gnome desktop. I have three widescreen displays so this lasts for several minutes. I think it is an easter egg in Nautilus perhaps? So I'm not going crazy! I've seen something similar. I don't have Nautilus installed though. Gnome itself? Gnome panel easter egg :). -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midspark.net/shazbot/
Re: mozilla questions
1. cannot access hotmail...i.e. when I click on sign-in status bar just says done but nothing happened AFAIK hotmail uses https, a protocol mozilla are not yet supporting. Mozilla supports https; the problem with Hotmail is that it uses a self-signing certificate, which is something that Mozilla doesn't quite yet support. Or, er, something. I've got no idea what this means, but that's how it is at the moment :). -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.pipeline.com.au
Setting tab length universally
Hi, I was just wondering if there was some method of universally setting tab width. I find eight spaces a bit too much, and although I have found methods of changing it in some applications, it'd be nice if I could change it in one place and never have to worry about it again. Advice or pointers to some Ms to Fing R would be much appreciated :). -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midspark.net/shazbot/bang.php
Re: removing xfs
On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 01:21:27AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: version 4.0.1so, afaik, X doesn't need either xfs or xfstt since there is a built in font server already but I could be wrong... You're right :). What are your font paths? You may just not have a line in your X config file that points to where your fixed font is stored. -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.pipeline.com.au
Re: debian-user-digest Digest V101 #1003
what the hell is this? I am the only one getting this or others are getting this too I have received 6 such mails. regards harsha Only six? Lucky guy :). -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.pipeline.com.au
Re: libphp4 and libpcre3 in unstable
Yesterday I updated my unstable installation with Dselect. When I got through, everything worked except that apache wouldn't run. I now get the following set of error messages when I try to start it. Syntax error on line 111 of /etc/apache/httpd.conf: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so into server: /usr/lib/libpcre.so.3: undefined symbol:atexit It's a known bug in the php4 package (you were close! :). Try # export LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libpcre.so.3 # apachectl start Works for me. -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.pipeline.com.au
Re: nautilus soooooooo slow to load
On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 03:17:07PM -0700, Shriram Shrikumar wrote: I have a PII 400MHz with 256Mb Memory BUT. it takes a good few seconds for nautilus / netscape or anything like that to load up. Is this normal ? Nautilus is pretty notorious for not being the quickest starter off the block. Which version of Netscape are you running? -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.pipeline.com.au
Re: Browser Problem
On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 09:26:06AM -0500, Leonard Leblanc wrote: I am trying to find a browser that interprets html very close to the same way as Internet Explorer. The reason I am trying to find this is I am a web developer and absolutely love using linux except I find it hard to know what the page is going to look like under windows since most people who are going to be going to the site(s) are going to be running windows. Hi Leonard, I've found that Mozilla (and browsers that incorporate its rendering engine, like Galeon and Netscape 6) renders similarly to recent versions of IE, but if you want to be sure your page will render consistently across browsers, there are only really two things you can do: write extremely simple HTML (ie, no tables, no stylesheets, no frames, pretty much no nothin'), or test your pages in the browsers you'd like to cater for. There is unfortunately no adequate substitute for the real thing :). -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.pipeline.com.au
Re: Browser Problem
There is unfortunately no adequate substitute for the real thing :). (just after reading Frederic's e-mail) ...or I could just be completely wrong, heh heh :). -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.pipeline.com.au
Re: Startx
I just installed 'Woody' on my system but when I try to start X with the 'startx' command, I get an error saying that the command can't be found. What do I have to do to fix this? # apt-get install xbase-clients X is a bit notorious for not wholly surviving the dist-upgrade from Potato to Woody, so you may have to reinstall or reconfigure many of the packages in task-x-window-system. Also, if you could make sure to send your e-mails in plain text in future, that would be great. Regards, -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.pipeline.com.au pgpnx2IZ3pGh7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: php4 not working
I installed php4 on my potato system and is not working in the sense, when I call a php4 file, the browser gives download option instead of rendering it on screen. Php3 was working fine but for some applications I upgraded it to php4 and I am in trouble now. Look for the line AddType application/x-httpd-php3 .php3 in either srm.conf or httpd.conf. If PHP3 used to work, it ought to be in one of them. In order to get PHP4 working, change it to AddType application/x-httpd-php insert php file extensions here Also, make sure the LoadModule php4_module etc. etc. line in either srm.conf or httpd.conf (I can never remember which is which -- thank God they've been consolidated in later releases :) is uncommented. Hope this helps. -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.pipeline.com.au
Re: Galeon installation (compiling from source) fails: no vfs?
I would think upgrading to GNOME 1.2.0 would be a pain with potato but I might be wrong. Someone may have built a package for stable. Check the archives. Someone else might chip in with the way to do this. hth, kent Kent, I'm running Debian unstable, kernel 2.4.4,, using the S3 X server. See above. I'm using sid/unstable, and am running Gnome 1.4 :). -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.pipeline.com.au pgpfiqNroEZLs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Galeon installation (compiling from source) fails: no vfs?
Christophe You need the libpanel-applet (and dev) package. The configure give a false impression : when everything goes right you can see somthing like : checking for additional GNOME modules... vfs applet but when a modules is not present the uotput is more than confusing. That did it. Thanks a bunch :). -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.pipeline.com.au pgpK2y6YKLufj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Galeon installation (compiling from source) fails: no vfs?
I'm attempting to get the Galeon source compiled (acquired from the sourceforge ftp server), but ./configure fails with this message: checking for GNOME - version = 1.2.0... yes checking for additional GNOME modules... vfs*** applets library is not installed configure: error: *** GNOME 1.2.0 or better is required. *** gnome-vfs 0.6.0 or better is required. I have both the libgnome-vfs0 and libgnome-vfs-dev packages installed, and couldn't turn up any other packages mentioning vfs at http://packages.debian.org/. I'm pretty sure I've got all of the base gnome packages installed I'm running Debian unstable, kernel 2.4.4,, using the S3 X server (3.3.6) Help would be greatly appreciated :). -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.pipeline.com.au pgphoxmlEYot4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Best way to setup a Soundblaster Live card
Rob, As a newbie, can someone tell me how this is done? I have compiled 2.4.5 with OSS support and now just need to add the users to this group Go root, edit /etc/group, find the audio line, and add the users you'd like to have access to sound. So, the untouched line'll look something like this: audio:x:29: and you want to change it so it looks like this: audio:x:29:usera,userb,userc And there you go! :) -- Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.pipeline.com.au pgpe5t85eTXGs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Starting X/Gnome
On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 02:04:27PM +0200, HawkY wrote: Where can I define what I want to launch at startup? (I don't want X to be started at startup.) Your default runlevel is specified in /etc/inittab (it's probably 2), and the programs that are launched for each runlevel are specified in its rc directory (that is, all the programs that launch at runlevel two are specified in /etc/rc2.d, and all the ones for runlevel five are specified in /etc/rc5.d, etc.). If there's something in there that you don't want to run, just remove it. There's a proper Debian way of doing this, but, er, I don't know it :). In your case you probably want to remove S99gdm or S99xdm from /etc/rc2.d. I've installed Gnome, but I want to launch it. (I might be wrong. I don't really know much about X.) Edit .xsession (in your home directory), so that it contains exec gnome-session Then type startx and hit enter. When X is started, I get a login prompt. (Big white window with large black letters.) If I enter the data, it launches WMaker. Is it Gnome? Nope. Gnome is a desktop environment -- like MS Windows, with a file manager and help system and method of launching programs and a window manager and blah blah blah :) -- whereas WindowMaker is just (just, he says! :) a window manager. (I'd like to install Ximian Gnome but when I try to launch Red Carpet I get a message: GTK error: Error opening display or something.) Is it beaceuse X is still running? (When I press ctrl+alt+f7.) Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file so that it contains deb http://red-carpet.ximian.com/debian stable main and then run apt-get update apt-get install task-ximian-gnome ...although it sounds like you've got Ximian Gnome installed already, if you've got Red Carpet on your system. It sounds like you're getting that GTK error because you're trying to run Red Carpet from a console -- you'll need to run it from a virtual terminal like xterm or rxvt while you're in X. Cheers! Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.pipeline.com.au/tonga/
Re: Sawfish screwed up after upgrade
Have you installed the sawfish-gnome package? Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.pipeline.com.au/tonga/ - Original Message - From: Larry Elmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 2:39 PM Subject: Sawfish screwed up after upgrade After upgrading to 'Unstable', Sawfish reverted to default settings and any attempt to use the Gnome Control Center to change those settings results in the Gnome Control Center being locked up. Has anyone else had a problem like this? I've tried purging all packages that might be related to this problem, then deleting all directories and files still left behind by those packages, then reinstalling the packages. No luck. Any ideas? Larry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keyboard lockup
Seems to be a fairly common problem with recent versions of GDM. Try downgrading it :). Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.pipeline.com.au/tonga/ - Original Message - From: Andre Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 6:04 PM Subject: Re: Keyboard lockup * Casey Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED], 20010405 09:10 +0200: LILO comes up and I hit Enter to boot linux. The boot process proceeds in the normal fashion. No error messages, everything is fine. Then the GDM login box comes up so I can log in to X. At this point the keyboard doesn't work. I can't type in my username. I tried pressing CTRL-ALT-F1 to get to a virtual terminal, but that won't work either. Nothing. It's as if the keyboard completely died.
Re: desktop and x
Hi Norton, Try # apt-get install task-x-window-system I can't remember the address of kde's debian packages, sorry, but the above command should get you at least into X Windows :). Cheers, Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.pipeline.com.au/tonga/ - Original Message - From: Norton Seron To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 11:41 PM Subject: desktop and x Hi, please help me. i downloaded the debian package (stable) and installed it, i can boot it and log in as root. But i cannot startX .is this because i have to download another package and if so what and where is it? how do i get to put kde2 on and other stuff like that please reply Norton Seron [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No XF86Config-4
Have you tried running xf86config? Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.pipeline.com.au/tonga/ - Original Message - From: Ben Pharr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 3:12 PM Subject: No XF86Config-4 I have just done a fresh install of woody and there is no XF86Config-4. I have install-ed, --reinstall-ed, and dpkg-reconfigure-d several times on xserver-xfree86, xfree86-common, and xserver-common. Any ideas? Ben Pharr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SourceForge binaries
Do you absolutely have to use apt-get to isntall it? You could just use dpkg -i packagename.deb while you're in the the directory the package is in. Apologies if this is not what you're after. Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.pipeline.com.au/tonga/ - Original Message - From: Phil Reardon,,, [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 11:27 AM Subject: SourceForge binaries Hi. I want to apt-get a .deb file I downloaded from SourceForge (gpltrans) It is not available from the debian archive or any mirrors. What line would I add to sources.list so I apt-get it from my home directory? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keyboard not responding
I had this same problem when I tried upgrading to Ximian Gnome beta 1 - having gdm start up on booting resulted in not being able to type anything in, but booting into a plain console, going root, and then running gdm resulted in it working fine. I'm afraid I couldn't figure out how to fix it, so I just downgraded to the last stable release and haven't had any trouble since :). Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.pipeline.com.au/tonga/ - Original Message - From: Vadim Kutsyy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian-User debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 6:17 AM Subject: RE: Keyboard not responding On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 09:06:29PM -0500, Vadim Kutsyy wrote: I have dual boot, and when I tried to login back to Debian, key board doesn't respond. I can type selection in Lilo, and work in win2k, but as soon as I am getting to gdm screen, I can not type anything, ctr-alt-del and ctr-alt-f1 don't work either. Could anyone recommend who I can get in to Debian Boot in single user mode. Append ' S' to the label you type at lilo prompt, btw 'linux S'. to see what is wrong? Have you modified gdm.conf to allow graphical login on ttys other than tty7 ? If so you should edit your /etc/inittab and disable some ttys. I can log in via 'linux single', no problem. I can start gdm from there, no problems at all. I have not edited gdm.conf recently, and given that I can start it from single mode, I don't think it is the problem with gdm. Interesting thing is that tty6 was edited yesterday, probably by one of the upgrades (I hope). I was trying to comment out ty6 from /etc/inittab, didn't help. What else can I check? I am thinking about installing say kdm instead of gdm to try, but I don't think that would make any difference. Thank You, Vadim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can't launch X
Try ln -s [insert path to XFree86 server here, probably something like /usr/bin/X11/XFree86] /etc/X11/X Worked for me :). Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.pipeline.com.au/tonga/ - Original Message - From: dko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 1:42 AM Subject: can't launch X i have a stable debian and i decided to upgrade it to unstable release. now i can't start KDE anymore. when i launch startx i have the following error message X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (no such file or direcotry), aborting. giving up. xinit: connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New user missing his true-type fonts
Hi, I'm a relatively new Debian user (I converted from Mandrake a month or two ago) and am having a lot of trouble getting true-type fonts working. I'm running a straight, recently upgraded (via ftp.au.debian.org) version of Potato, and the S3 X Server (3.something, whichever is distributed with Potato :). I've tried installing xfstt -- I apt-get installed it, everything seemed to go okay, I put some true-type fonts in its default directory and it ran and all, but to no avail; webpages that use Verdana, Georgia and all the other MS fonts still look awful. Help would be much appreciated. My current lack of ttf support is about the only thing keeping me from spending all of my time in Debian :). Thanks for your time! Andrew Sione Taumoefolau [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.pipeline.com.au/tonga/
