Strange system behavior and network packets...

2001-06-14 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite


Hello,
This is sort of a debian question... I have a small lan at my
home with two debian systems and a win98 connected to the Internet via
a IDSL Efficient Networks SpeedStream router. The strange behavior
is my win98 system powered-on all by itself while I was in the room (at
2AM). I was puzzled by this behavior and noticed that the bios was
set to power-on from a modem signal. I disabled this signal and shut
the system down.
I noticed some network activity on the router with only a single debian
system active on the network. After shutting down this system, I still
noticed the network lights flashing from time to time.
The next day I rebooted the debian system and tried a tcpdump to identify
the network activity. Here is a typical printout of the offending
packets:
19:30:39.258584 0:20:6f:e:bb:96 > 1:80:c2:0:0:0 802.1d ui/C
>>> Unknown IPX Data: (43 bytes)
[000] 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 20 6F 0E BB 96 00 00 00
 o..
[010] 00 80 00 00 20 6F 0E BB 96 00 00 00 00 14 00 02
 o.. 
[020] 00 0F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
 ...
len=43

Does anybody know how to decipher this output? The typical TCP/IP
packet outputs are pretty easy to figure out. (NOTE: As far as I know none
of my systems use IPX)
Is there a way to tell if this is coming from outside my LAN or is it
some strange behavior of my router? I am wondering if this could
be some type of hack attack on my systems.
Thanks for your time!
Doug Thistlethwaite



What is causing the segmentation fault?

1999-10-24 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
I think my biggest problem with this is the segmentation fault I get every time 
I try
to use the 'passwd' or 'su' commands.  Does anybody know if this is caused by 
PAM, or
are these commands corrupted?  If I need to replace them, how do I go about 
doing
this?

Doug

Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:

 Hello  Help!

 I have a potato system that was running fine until a few minutes ago...

 I used dselect to select a package and it wanted to upgrade a bunch on
 stuff.  I let it because I was interested to see how long it would take
 with my new DSL connection.

 After the upgrade I have seen these problems: (It upgraded about 50M of
 packages).

 1. I can not login to a virtual terminal.  When I try I do not even get
 prompted for a password.  I looked in my /etc/passwd file and all of the
 password fields are now :x: except for a user called 'admin'.

 2. I tried to set a password of an account and I get a segmentation
 fault when I try to run passwd.

 3. My x-server CTRL-ALT + F7 now has the following error message instead
 of a graphical login screen.
 su[4340] PAM (other) illegal module type: OTHER

 What is going on?  Please help me recover my system.  I currently have a
 single login as root where I was running dselect.  I am afraid to log
 off because I don't want to be locked out permanently.

 Thanks in advance,

 Doug

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Segmentation Fault Help!

1999-10-24 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Help!  It seems that I really screwed my system up when I allowed
dselect to update packages on my potato system.

I am having a problem with segmentation faults for the following
commands:

su
login
passwd

Because of this, I am not able to login any other processes (virtual
terminals) nor will my xserver run...  Currently the only access I have
to this system is via the single shell I had logged in to do the
'dselect' and samba services are still working so my PC look in my home
directory.  I am still able to use dselect to load packages from the
internet.

In my work with HP-UX, segmentation faults were generally caused by
incompatible binaries trying to execute on the system.  Is this the case
with linux?

How do I tell which version I should have?  If these files really need
to be updated how do I go about this?  I was playing around with telling
dselect to remove passwd, but it wanted to remove a whole bunch of stuff
and it said this was not a good idea.  I am totally stuck and as murphy
would have it, I have some database work that needs the postgresql on
the linux system... Of course, postgresql will not start up because of
the corrupt 'su' command.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Doug


Re: Segmentation Fault Help! 2nd call!

1999-10-24 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
I hope somebody has an idea on what to do with my system.  I am at a lost on 
what to
do except to remove and re-install the packages which have the bad programs in. 
 I get
major warnings against doing this by dselect so I am holding off until I can 
get some
more information on the implementations of doing this.  Please help!


Doug


Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:

 Help!  It seems that I really screwed my system up when I allowed
 dselect to update packages on my potato system.

 I am having a problem with segmentation faults for the following
 commands:

 su
 login
 passwd

 Because of this, I am not able to login any other processes (virtual
 terminals) nor will my xserver run...  Currently the only access I have
 to this system is via the single shell I had logged in to do the
 'dselect' and samba services are still working so my PC look in my home
 directory.  I am still able to use dselect to load packages from the
 internet.

 In my work with HP-UX, segmentation faults were generally caused by
 incompatible binaries trying to execute on the system.  Is this the case
 with linux?

 How do I tell which version I should have?  If these files really need
 to be updated how do I go about this?  I was playing around with telling
 dselect to remove passwd, but it wanted to remove a whole bunch of stuff
 and it said this was not a good idea.  I am totally stuck and as murphy
 would have it, I have some database work that needs the postgresql on
 the linux system... Of course, postgresql will not start up because of
 the corrupt 'su' command.

 Any help would be greatly appreciated!

 Doug

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Re: Help!!! - Potato upgrade using dselect trashed computer...

1999-10-24 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
In the dselect list I see

passwd19990827-7
shadowI do not see a package called shadow.

I am getting my debian from ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib
non-free

There is not a package called pam-apps on the list.

Do you think the segmentation faults I get with passwd, su, and login is
caused by pam or is a problem with the version of the commands?


Doug


Ben Collins wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 03:18:49PM -0700, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:
  Ben,
 
  I didn't even see pam-apps on the list in dselect.

 Then what version of passwd and shadow do you have _installed_?

 Ben


Re: Help!!! - Potato upgrade using dselect trashed computer...

1999-10-24 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite

Ben,

Out of despration, I tried the lines below instead of the ones you gave me.

Lines you had me use:
auth required   pam_unix_auth.so
account  required   pam_unix_acct.so
password required   pam_unix_passwd.so
session  required   pam_unix_session.so

Lines taken from the other.dpkg-dist

 auth required   pam_unix.so
 account  required   pam_unix.so
 password required   pam_unix.so
 session  required   pam_unix.so

I can now login under a virtual terminal so I am going to try rebooting to see 
if that clears
the xserver.  What does the difference between what you gave me and what seems 
to work?  Am I
missing some files?

Doug


Help!!! - Potato upgrade using dselect trashed computer...

1999-10-23 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello  Help!

I have a potato system that was running fine until a few minutes ago...

I used dselect to select a package and it wanted to upgrade a bunch on
stuff.  I let it because I was interested to see how long it would take
with my new DSL connection.

After the upgrade I have seen these problems: (It upgraded about 50M of
packages).

1. I can not login to a virtual terminal.  When I try I do not even get
prompted for a password.  I looked in my /etc/passwd file and all of the
password fields are now :x: except for a user called 'admin'.

2. I tried to set a password of an account and I get a segmentation
fault when I try to run passwd.

3. My x-server CTRL-ALT + F7 now has the following error message instead
of a graphical login screen.
su[4340] PAM (other) illegal module type: OTHER

What is going on?  Please help me recover my system.  I currently have a
single login as root where I was running dselect.  I am afraid to log
off because I don't want to be locked out permanently.

Thanks in advance,

Doug


Re: Help!!! - Potato upgrade using dselect trashed computer...

1999-10-23 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Ok Ben,  here they are.

One other thing to note:  During the install I had a message with modutils 
stating
that The form:
Patch[fs]=/lib/modules/2.2.10 was replaced with the form:
Patch[fs]=/lib/modules/2.2.10/fs

I could not find where to change thi.  I did find a file called 
conf.modules.old that
had command lines like those described above.  Could this be causing a problem 
with
pam?


Doug

Ben Collins wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 12:19:48AM -0700, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:
  What is going on?  Please help me recover my system.  I currently have a
  single login as root where I was running dselect.  I am afraid to log
  off because I don't want to be locked out permanently.

 Can you attach all of the files in /etc/pam.d/ aswell as your
 /etc/login.defs please? Looks to be a conffile problem, but I'm not sure
 what yet.

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#
# The PAM configuration file for the Shadow `su' service
#

# Uncomment this to force users to be a member of group root
# before than can use `su'
# (Replaces the `SU_WHEEL_ONLY' option from login.defs)
# auth   required   pam_wheel.so

# This allows root to su without passwords (normal operation)
auth   sufficient pam_rootok.so

# Uncomment and edit /etc/security/time.conf if you need to set
# time restrainst on su usage.
# (Replaces the `PORTTIME_CHECKS_ENAB' option from login.defs
# as well as /etc/porttime)
# accountrequisite  pam_time.so

# The standard Unix authentication modules, used with
# NIS (man nsswitch) as well as normal /etc/passwd and
# /etc/shadow entries.
auth   required   pam_unix.so
accountrequired   pam_unix.so
sessionrequired   pam_unix.so

# Sets up user limits, please uncomment and read /etc/security/limits.conf
# to enable this functionality.
# (Replaces the use of /etc/limits in old login)
# sessionrequired   pam_limits.so
#
# The PAM configuration file for the Shadow `chsh' service
#

# This will not allow a user to change their shell unless
# their current one is listed in /etc/shells. This keeps
# accounts with special shells from changing them.
auth   required   pam_shells.so

# The standard Unix authentication modules, used with
# NIS (man nsswitch) as well as normal /etc/passwd and
# /etc/shadow entries.
auth   required   pam_unix.so nullok
accountrequired   pam_unix.so
sessionrequired   pam_unix.so

#%PAM-1.0
auth   sufficient   pam_rootok.so
auth   required pam_console.so
accountrequired pam_permit.so
#
# The PAM configuration file for the Shadow `login' service
#
# NOTE: If you use a session module (such as kerberos or NIS+)
# that retains persistent credentials (like key caches, etc), you
# need to enable the `CLOSE_SESSIONS' option in /etc/login.defs
# in order for login to stay around until after logout to call
# pam_close_session() and cleanup.
#

# Outputs an issue file prior to each login prompt (Replaces the
# ISSUE_FILE option from login.defs). Uncomment for use
# auth   required   pam_issue.so issue=/etc/issue

# Disallows root logins except on tty's listed in /etc/securetty
# (Replaces the `CONSOLE' setting from login.defs)
auth   requisite  pam_securetty.so

# Disallows other than root logins when /etc/nologin exists
# (Replaces the `NOLOGINS_FILE' option from login.defs)
auth   required   pam_nologin.so

# This module parses /etc/environment (the standard for setting
# environ vars) and also allows you to use an extended config
# file /etc/security/pam_env.conf.
# (Replaces the `ENVIRON_FILE' setting from login.defs)
auth   required   pam_env.so

# Standard Un*x authentication. The nullok line allows passwordless
# accounts.
auth   required   pam_unix.so nullok

# This allows certain extra groups to be granted to a user
# based on things like time of day, tty, service, and user.
# Please uncomment and edit /etc/security/group.conf if you
# wish to use this.
# (Replaces the `CONSOLE_GROUPS' option in login.defs)
# auth   optional   pam_group.so

# Uncomment and edit /etc/security/time.conf if you need to set
# time restrainst on logins.
# (Replaces the `PORTTIME_CHECKS_ENAB' option from login.defs
# as well as /etc/porttime)
# accountrequisite  pam_time.so

# Uncomment and edit /etc/security/access.conf if you need to
# set access limits.
# (Replaces /etc/login.access file)
# account  required   pam_access.so

# Standard Un*x account and session
accountrequired   pam_unix.so
sessionrequired   pam_unix.so

# Sets up user limits, please uncomment and read /etc/security/limits.conf
# to enable this functionality.
# (Replaces the use of /etc/limits in old login)
# sessionrequired   pam_limits.so

# Prints the last login info upon succesful login
# (Replaces the `LASTLOG_ENAB' option from login.defs)
sessionoptional   pam_lastlog.so

# Prints the motd upon succesful login
# (Replaces the `MOTD_FILE' option in login.defs)
sessionoptional

Re: Help!!! - Potato upgrade using dselect trashed computer...

1999-10-23 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Thanks for the reply Eric,

I have attacked the output from /etc/dpkg -S pam



Eric G . Miller wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 12:19:48AM -0700, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:
  Hello  Help!
 
  I have a potato system that was running fine until a few minutes ago...
 
  After the upgrade I have seen these problems: (It upgraded about 50M of
  packages).
 
  1. I can not login to a virtual terminal.  When I try I do not even get
  prompted for a password.  I looked in my /etc/passwd file and all of the
  password fields are now :x: except for a user called 'admin'.
 The x indicates shadow passwords (you can't read 'em so don't try). I've
 seen this admin user mentioned a few times, but I don't have it...??

 
  2. I tried to set a password of an account and I get a segmentation
  fault when I try to run passwd.
 
  3. My x-server CTRL-ALT + F7 now has the following error message instead
  of a graphical login screen.
  su[4340] PAM (other) illegal module type: OTHER
 Apparently there's a PAM issue

 
  What is going on?  Please help me recover my system.  I currently have a
  single login as root where I was running dselect.  I am afraid to log
  off because I don't want to be locked out permanently.

 Perhaps, for safety (until you can fix this problem) remove root's
 password from /etc/passwd. I'm assuming no one else is using, having
 access to this account?

 Sorry, can't help ya more, but maybe you can list all of the pam related
 packages you have:

 $ dpkg -S pam

 may give an idea.
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libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_ftp.so
debhelper: /usr/share/man/man1/dh_installpam.1.gz
passwd: /usr/share/doc/passwd/README.pam.gz
libpam-modules: /usr/share/doc/libpam-modules
login: /usr/share/doc/login/README.pam.gz
imagemagick: /usr/doc/imagemagick/examples/spam.gif
libpam-runtime: /usr/share/man/man8/pam.8.gz
libpam0g: /lib/libpamc.so.0
libpam0g: /usr/share/doc/libpam0g
libpam0g: /lib/libpamc.so.0.70
util-linux: /etc/pam.d/kbdrate
libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_wheel.so
postgresql-dev: /usr/include/postgresql/access/heapam.h
libpam-modules: /usr/share/doc/libpam-modules/examples/upperLOWER
libpam0g: /usr/share/doc/libpam0g/README.gz
libpam-runtime: /usr/share/man/man7/pam-undocumented.7.gz
libpam-modules: /usr/share/doc/libpam-modules/changelog.gz
libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_mkhomedir.so
libpam-modules: /usr/share/doc/libpam-modules/changelog.Debian.gz
libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_rootok.so
libpam-modules: /etc/security/pam_env.conf
libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_unix.so
libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_access.so
login: /etc/pam.d/login
libpam0g: /usr/share/doc/libpam0g/TODO
libpam0g: /lib/libpam_misc.so.0.70
libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_filter.so
libpam0g: /usr/share/doc/libpam0g/TODO.Debian
libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_tally.so
libpam0g: /lib/libpam.so.0
libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_time.so
libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_unix_passwd.so
libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_group.so
libpam-modules: /usr/share/doc/libpam-modules/examples
libpam-runtime: /usr/share/doc/libpam-runtime/changelog.gz
libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_limits.so
libpam-runtime: /etc/pam.d/other
libpam-runtime: /usr/share/doc/libpam-runtime/changelog.Debian.gz
libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_warn.so
libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_rhosts_auth.so
libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_motd.so
libpam0g: /usr/share/doc/libpam0g/changelog.Debian.gz
libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_issue.so
libpam-modules: /usr/share/doc/libpam-modules/examples/upperLOWER/.cvsignore
libpam-runtime: /usr/share/man/man8/pam.conf.8.gz
passwd: /etc/pam.d/passwd
libpam-modules: /usr/share/doc/libpam-modules/examples/upperLOWER/Makefile
libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_nologin.so
libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_shells.so
libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_unix_acct.so
libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_permit.so
libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_env.so
libpam-runtime: /usr/share/doc/libpam-runtime
libpam0g: /lib/libpam_misc.so.0
passwd, util-linux, libpam-runtime, login: /etc/pam.d
login: /etc/pam.d/su
debhelper: /usr/bin/dh_installpam
libpam-modules: /usr/share/doc/libpam-modules/copyright
libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_stress.so
libpam0g: /lib/libpam.so.0.70
libpam0g: /usr/share/doc/libpam0g/README.Debian
libpam-runtime: /usr/share/man/man8/pam.d.8.gz
passwd: /etc/pam.d/chsh
libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_securetty.so
libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_unix_auth.so
libpam-runtime: /usr/share/doc/libpam-runtime/copyright
libpam0g: /usr/share/doc/libpam0g/copyright
libpam-runtime: /etc/pam.conf
libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_lastlog.so
libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_deny.so
passwd: /etc/pam.d/chfn
libpam-modules: /lib/security

Re: Help!!! - Potato upgrade using dselect trashed computer...

1999-10-23 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Ok, I modified the file as you show below.

Did you notice that there was a file named other.dpkg-dist that had the 
following in it?
Not sure if this is important or not.
auth required   pam_unix.so
account  required   pam_unix.so
password required   pam_unix.so
session  required   pam_unix.so

What should I do after this?  I am afraid to reboot and not be able to log in 
ever again...

I have attacked the output from dpkg -l | grep libpam

Thanks again,

Doug

Ben Collins wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 08:51:47AM -0700, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:
  Ok Ben,  here they are.
 
  One other thing to note:  During the install I had a message with 
  modutils stating
  that The form:
  Patch[fs]=/lib/modules/2.2.10 was replaced with the form:
  Patch[fs]=/lib/modules/2.2.10/fs
 
  I could not find where to change thi.  I did find a file called 
  conf.modules.old that
  had command lines like those described above.  Could this be causing a 
  problem with
  pam?

 No, completely unrelated.

  OTHER   auth required   pam_deny.so
  OTHER   account  required   pam_deny.so
  OTHER   password required   pam_deny.so
  OTHER   session  required   pam_deny.so

 Here's the problem, not sure where the settings in this file came from.
 The distributed other looks like this:

 ##
 #
 # /etc/pam.d/other - specify the PAM fallback behaviour
 #
 # We fall back to the standard UNIX access. If this is not secure enough
 # for your purpose, consider specifying pam_deny.so instead.
 #
 auth required   pam_unix_auth.so
 account  required   pam_unix_acct.so
 password required   pam_unix_passwd.so
 session  required   pam_unix_session.so
 ##

 Change /etc/pam.d/other to look like this. Also, run this and see what
 versions of the PAM libraries you have installed:

 dpkg -l | grep libpam

 Thanks,
   Ben
ii  libpam-modules  0.70-2 Pluggable Authentication Modules for PAM
ii  libpam-runtime  0.70-2 Runtime support for the PAM library
ii  libpam0g0.70-2 Pluggable Authentication Modules library


Re: Help!!! - Potato upgrade using dselect trashed computer...

1999-10-23 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
I can not log in and the passwd function still give me a segmentation fault.  I 
will remove
pam-apps.

Do I need to do anything else to get the changes I've made to be recognized?

Doug

Ben Collins wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 11:44:27AM -0700, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:
  Ok, I modified the file as you show below.
 
  Did you notice that there was a file named other.dpkg-dist that had the 
  following in it?
  Not sure if this is important or not.
  auth required   pam_unix.so
  account  required   pam_unix.so
  password required   pam_unix.so
  session  required   pam_unix.so
 
  What should I do after this?  I am afraid to reboot and not be able to log 
  in ever again...

 You should try to login. Also, do you have pam-apps installed? If so,
 remove it, and make sure that the passwd and login packages are up to
 date 19990827-x is the latest).

  I have attacked the output from dpkg -l | grep libpam

 Everything there looks ok, latest PAM.

 Ben


Re: Help!!! - Potato upgrade using dselect trashed computer...

1999-10-23 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Ben,

I could not find pam-apps at all using dselect.  While I was there, I removed 
all obsolete packages
(there were several, and this did not have any other affects).  dselect did 
want to install several
other packages but this did not help either.

I am not sure why my system ended up with shadow passwords and such.  Prior to 
this problem, I was
running potato fine without it and dselect seemed to decide on its own to 
install these extra
packages.  Is there a way to get back to where I was?

Doug

Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:

 I can not log in and the passwd function still give me a segmentation fault.  
 I will remove
 pam-apps.

 Do I need to do anything else to get the changes I've made to be recognized?

 Doug

 Ben Collins wrote:

  On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 11:44:27AM -0700, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:
   Ok, I modified the file as you show below.
  
   Did you notice that there was a file named other.dpkg-dist that had the 
   following in it?
   Not sure if this is important or not.
   auth required   pam_unix.so
   account  required   pam_unix.so
   password required   pam_unix.so
   session  required   pam_unix.so
  
   What should I do after this?  I am afraid to reboot and not be able to 
   log in ever again...
 
  You should try to login. Also, do you have pam-apps installed? If so,
  remove it, and make sure that the passwd and login packages are up to
  date 19990827-x is the latest).
 
   I have attacked the output from dpkg -l | grep libpam
 
  Everything there looks ok, latest PAM.
 
  Ben

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Question of Firewall Mail Servers

1999-09-17 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello,

I am working on adding a debian slink linux system as a fire wall to my
existing company network.  When finished, we will have an ISDN router
connected to the linux firewall machine and a separate network card
connecting the internal network to the linux system.

The mail server will be inside of the firewall and needs to receive SMTP
connections through the firewall.

My question is how is this done?  I will have fixed IP addresses for the
router and linux system, but the mailserver will have an internal
192.180... IP address.  Can this be done?  If so, where should I be
looking for information as far as setting up the linux system goes?

Thanks,

Doug


Re: Question of Firewall Mail Servers

1999-09-17 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
That was suppose to be 192.168.XXX.XXX IP addresses.

Doug

Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:

 Hello,

 I am working on adding a debian slink linux system as a fire wall to my
 existing company network.  When finished, we will have an ISDN router
 connected to the linux firewall machine and a separate network card
 connecting the internal network to the linux system.

 The mail server will be inside of the firewall and needs to receive SMTP
 connections through the firewall.

 My question is how is this done?  I will have fixed IP addresses for the
 router and linux system, but the mailserver will have an internal
 192.180... IP address.  Can this be done?  If so, where should I be
 looking for information as far as setting up the linux system goes?

 Thanks,

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Re: Install problem - Locks up during boot off of rescue disk

1999-09-16 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Thanks for the tip.  These disks didn't work, but there was another link to 
someone
else who had come up with the solution.  This one worked for me.  (I don't have 
the
link handy because I do not have web access from this system.

Doug

Thomas R. Shemanske wrote:

 The problem is a conflict between the aic7xxx driver for the 2940 card
 and the other SCSI drivers on the standard rescue disk.

 See http://www.debian.org/~adric/aic7xxx/slink/5.1.15/
 for a set of install rescue and driver disks which should get you over
 the hump.

 Best,

 T. R. Shemanske

  Subject: Install problem - Locks up during boot off of rescue disk.
  Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:55:38 -0700
  From: Doug Thistlethwaite [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org
 
  Hello,
 
  I am trying to install debian onto a Dell Optiplex GXM5133 system with
  32 Meg of memory and a Adaptec AHA-2940 bios v1.16 PCI scsi controller.
 
  I am installing off of floppys with the intention finishing the install
  via ftp.
 
  The rescue disk appears to boot fine and I get to the point where you
  press ENTER to boot for F1..F? for instructions.  When I press enter
  everything looks normal until it gets to the scsi0 lines  The system
  locks up at this point.  The last three lines are:
 
  (scsi0) Adaptec AHA-294X scsi host adapter found at PCI 12/0
  (scsi0) Narrow Channel, scsi ID=7, 16/255 SCBs
  (scsi0) Downloading sequencer code...  412 instructions downloaded
 
  The system locks up at this point.  What should I do?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Doug Thistlethwaite
 

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Install problem - Locks up during boot off of rescue disk.

1999-09-14 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello,

I am trying to install debian onto a Dell Optiplex GXM5133 system with
32 Meg of memory and a Adaptec AHA-2940 bios v1.16 PCI scsi controller.

I am installing off of floppys with the intention finishing the install
via ftp.

The rescue disk appears to boot fine and I get to the point where you
press ENTER to boot for F1..F? for instructions.  When I press enter
everything looks normal until it gets to the scsi0 lines  The system
locks up at this point.  The last three lines are:


(scsi0) Adaptec AHA-294X scsi host adapter found at PCI 12/0
(scsi0) Narrow Channel, scsi ID=7, 16/255 SCBs
(scsi0) Downloading sequencer code...  412 instructions downloaded

The system locks up at this point.  What should I do?

Thanks,

Doug Thistlethwaite


Re: Problems with the samba update

1999-08-17 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Peter,

I had a similar problem when I updated my samba to Potato.  In my case, it was 
because
I had a installed Samba on a older version of debian and I used the easiest 
shortcut
on my inital setup.  The solution to my problem was to remove the samba 
password file
and re-enter my users passwords into it.  This fixed the problem for me.

Good Luck,

Doug


peter karlsson wrote:

 Hi!

 A recent samba update (in potato) rendered all my shares non-functional. For
 some reason, no-one can mount anything, not even using the correct
 passwords, and if I try to browse my computer (from a Windows machine), it
 claims that I have to enter a password for \\computername\IPC$

 I've tried fiddling around with the configuration file, and also to move the
 old shares to the end of the new template configuration file, but I cannot
 get it to work. Does anyone have any idea what is wrong?

 Samba version is 2.0.5a-2

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Re: samba password changes after potato upgrade

1999-07-21 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Thanks for the clarification.

Doug

Martin Bialasinski wrote:

  Doug == Doug Thistlethwaite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Doug password file (I don't even remember if it was an option at that
 Doug time).  I think the latest version set the system up to use
 Doug passwords, but the file didn't have the users or passwords
 Doug available.

 And it can't. SMB uses a different algorithm than crypt which is used
 for /etc/shadow.

 So you can't just copy the crypted password into the samba password
 file.

 Ciao,
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postgresql and jdk1.2

1999-07-21 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello,

I am wondering if anybody has had luck with getting the jdk1.2 drivers
to connect to a linux postgresql 6.5 from an windoze system.  I have
been going around and around with it without any luck.  I get to the
point of trying to connect, but the passwords do not authenticate.  For
starters, I am using the example.basic that is included with the jdbc
driver for 1.2.

If some one has this working with a debian potato system, I would like
to hear from you.  I have been working with the author of the jdbc
driver and he is about to throw up his hands as the drivers works with
other linux variations.

I loaded my postgresql 6.5 from the slink archive deb files.

Thanks,

Doug


Re: samba password changes after potato upgrade

1999-07-20 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Thanks for the information!

The smbclient is in its own package.

I fixed my samba installation by re-creating the password file for samba.  I 
think
that the problem was that when I first installed samba, I did not use a separate
password file (I don't even remember if it was an option at that time).  I 
think the
latest version set the system up to use passwords, but the file didn't have the 
users
or passwords available.  I re-created the password file, and entered the users 
and
passwords by hand.  After this, samba works fine!

Thanks to all who helped on this issue!

Doug



Martin Bialasinski wrote:

  Doug == Doug Thistlethwaite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Doug One more thing about Samba.  Does anyone know why the
 Doug distribution does not have all of the tools that are described
 Doug on the samba site.

 Because the package has been broken up.

 Doug There is a file that describes a set of steps to debug problems
 Doug like I am having.  The third step call for the use of smbclient
 Doug which is not in any of the deb files as far as I can tell.

 Package smbclient.

 You could also install smaba-doc package which also has the diagnosis
 file you were reading.

 If you are looking for a package that has some specific file, look at
 packages.debian.org, which has a search engine.

 Ciao,
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Re: samba password changes after potato upgrade

1999-07-20 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Thanks for the information James, My first instalation was using plain text
passwords.  The latest version didn't transfer that setting from my old config.

Craig, I found this out before I read your message, but you are completely 
correct.  I
recreated the users and passwords and everything worked great!

Thanks again,

Doug

Daniels, Craig wrote:

 I had the same problem when I upgraded to potato with samba 2.04.  There's
 probably a better way to do this, but I fixed it using smbpasswd with the
 username for each of my users and entered a default password.  After that,
 it seems to work fine.

 Craig

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  To:   Lewis, James M.; debian-user@lists.debian.org
  Cc:   Doug Work
  Subject:  Re: samba password changes after potato upgrade
 
  Ok, I upgraded to 2.2.10 kernel but my Samba still does not recognise my
  passwords
  from my win 95 system.
 
  My old samba configuration used plain text passwords if my memory serves
  me right.  I
  think there was a problem with encription of passwords when I first
  installed it.  If
  this is the case, how do I go about setting up my system to accept
  passwords?  Any
  help pointing me in the correct direction would be greatly appriciated!
 
  Doug
 
  Lewis, James M. wrote:
 
After upgrading my system to potato, my samba services no longer work.
I get an error message saying that the password supplied is not valid.
Everything worked fine under slink.
   
If I remember correctly, part of the instructions on the old setup was
to remove password encryption so windows 95 could connect (Its been so
long, I'm not sure exactly what I did to set it up).  The latest
  version
of samba has encryption enabled for windows 95/98.
   
Where should I look to modify my configuration files?  Are there any
docs on conversion issues from the version that was stable with slink?
   
   If all you did was upgrade samba, then the problem might be
   with the kernel version.  I had a similar problem with 2.0.36
   kernel.  I upgraded to 2.2.10 and things worked right.  The
   problem was that samba could not become the connected user.
  
Thanks,
   
Doug
   
   
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Re: samba password changes after potato upgrade

1999-07-19 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Humm.  I was using 2.0.36 with slink and it worked fine.  I will checkout the
kernel upgrade and see what is up.  How stable is 2.2.10?

Doug

Lewis, James M. wrote:

  After upgrading my system to potato, my samba services no longer work.
  I get an error message saying that the password supplied is not valid.
  Everything worked fine under slink.
 
  If I remember correctly, part of the instructions on the old setup was
  to remove password encryption so windows 95 could connect (Its been so
  long, I'm not sure exactly what I did to set it up).  The latest version
  of samba has encryption enabled for windows 95/98.
 
  Where should I look to modify my configuration files?  Are there any
  docs on conversion issues from the version that was stable with slink?
 
 If all you did was upgrade samba, then the problem might be
 with the kernel version.  I had a similar problem with 2.0.36
 kernel.  I upgraded to 2.2.10 and things worked right.  The
 problem was that samba could not become the connected user.

  Thanks,
 
  Doug
 
 
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Re: samba password changes after potato upgrade

1999-07-19 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Ok, I upgraded to 2.2.10 kernel but my Samba still does not recognise my 
passwords
from my win 95 system.

My old samba configuration used plain text passwords if my memory serves me 
right.  I
think there was a problem with encription of passwords when I first installed 
it.  If
this is the case, how do I go about setting up my system to accept passwords?  
Any
help pointing me in the correct direction would be greatly appriciated!

Doug

Lewis, James M. wrote:

  After upgrading my system to potato, my samba services no longer work.
  I get an error message saying that the password supplied is not valid.
  Everything worked fine under slink.
 
  If I remember correctly, part of the instructions on the old setup was
  to remove password encryption so windows 95 could connect (Its been so
  long, I'm not sure exactly what I did to set it up).  The latest version
  of samba has encryption enabled for windows 95/98.
 
  Where should I look to modify my configuration files?  Are there any
  docs on conversion issues from the version that was stable with slink?
 
 If all you did was upgrade samba, then the problem might be
 with the kernel version.  I had a similar problem with 2.0.36
 kernel.  I upgraded to 2.2.10 and things worked right.  The
 problem was that samba could not become the connected user.

  Thanks,
 
  Doug
 
 
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Re: samba password changes after potato upgrade

1999-07-19 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
One more thing about Samba.  Does anyone know why the distribution does not 
have all
of the tools that are described on the samba site.  There is a file that 
describes a
set of steps to debug problems like I am having.  The third step call for the 
use of
smbclient which is not in any of the deb files as far as I can tell.  Where can 
I get
this program?  In step 4 it says to us an utility called nmblookup.  Is this 
file
available in a deb install file?

Thanks for your time,

Doug

P.S: The file I was looking at is http://us1.samba.org/samba/docs/DIAGNOSIS.html


Re: postgres install error from apt

1999-07-19 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
I was able to get postgresql 6.5-3 working running through the install twice as 
Oliver describes.  Once it was complete psql worked as it did
before.

Doug

Oliver Elphick wrote:

 Pollywog wrote:
   
   
   Does anyone know what the problem might be?
   
   
   running dpkg --pending --configure
   ...
   Setting up postgresql-pl (6.5-3) ...
   Enabling the PL procedural language in all PostgreSQL databases...
   Could not execv /usr/lib/postgresql/bin/psql
   Cannot select databases
   dpkg: error processing postgresql-pl (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
   Errors were encountered while processing:
postgresql-pl

 There was a filename clash between libpgsql2 and a previous release of 
 postgresql.  You will probably find that libpgsql2 is not properly
 installed.  This was because the psql executable was moved between the two
 packages and I seem to have messed up the procedure slightly.  psql is used
 by postgresql-pl's postinst script, which is why you have this problem.

 Make sure that libpgsql2 is properly installed (which will work fine the
 second time around), and you will then be able to configure postgresql-pl.

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3rd Call for help - Lost network card after Potato Upgrade

1999-07-18 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello,  I hope someone can help me with this.  It seems like it should
not to hard to fix, but without any knowledge of how or where the
network services are started / initialized, I don't think I will figure
it out without help.

I upgraded my slink system to potato using dselect about a week ago.
After
the inital runs through dselect/install/config/remove there weretwo
problems still being reported.

#1 the gcc deb file would not load because of a conflicht with an old
libg++.
#2 setserial would not configure.

I removed the old libg++272 (I think that was its name) and gcc seemed
to install fine.

The error messages during the configureation of setserial said that my
modules needed to be updated and to run
update-module force and run configure again.  Well, I did this and the

above listed fix and now my network card is no longer detected.  (Note:
I noticed the problem after I rebooted the system so I am not sure
exactly what is causing this.

I looked in my /var/log/kern.log file and found these differences before

and after the reboot.

The last line in this file has the line (note: the *date systemname* is
acutially the date time and systemname at the time of the reboot.  I
just didn't feel like typing it all in each time).

*date systemname* kernel: ne.c No PCI cards found. use io=0xNNN values

for ISA cards.

Prior to the problem (earlier in the file) I had the following:

*date systemname* kernel: ne.c v1.10 9/23/94 Donald Becher (*email
address*)
*date systemname* kernel: NE*000 ethercard probe at 0x300 00 50 4e 03 8b

d6
*date systemname* kernel: eth0: NE2000 found at 0x300 using IRQ 3


Does anyone have an idea of what I did?  How can I get my networking
re-activated?

Thank you for your time,

Doug Thistlethwaite


Re: 3rd Call for help - Lost network card after Potato Upgrade

1999-07-18 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Thanks for the reply Jim!

I have a standard NE2000 card (cheap one I got for about $20).

Everything was working fine until my last moves that I described below.  My 
network was
working after the potato upgrade until I fixed the last two problems taht 
dselect
caused.  I rebooted, and the network card was no longer detected.

The card is a ISA card.

Jim wrote:

 Hi Doug, sorry you've been missed by people on the list.  I don't read all
 the msgs (too manY) but I saw yours and I'll help if you can.

 Your network settings are going to be initialized at startup by some
 scripts in your /etc/init.d/ directory.

 What kind of card do you have?  IOW, is it ISA or PCI?  Have you ever used
 Modprobe at all?  Let me know what kind of card it is and I bet we can get
 it working.

 On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:

  Hello,  I hope someone can help me with this.  It seems like it should
  not to hard to fix, but without any knowledge of how or where the
  network services are started / initialized, I don't think I will figure
  it out without help.
 
  I upgraded my slink system to potato using dselect about a week ago.
  After
  the inital runs through dselect/install/config/remove there weretwo
  problems still being reported.
 
  #1 the gcc deb file would not load because of a conflicht with an old
  libg++.
  #2 setserial would not configure.
 
  I removed the old libg++272 (I think that was its name) and gcc seemed
  to install fine.
 
  The error messages during the configureation of setserial said that my
  modules needed to be updated and to run
  update-module force and run configure again.  Well, I did this and the
 
  above listed fix and now my network card is no longer detected.  (Note:
  I noticed the problem after I rebooted the system so I am not sure
  exactly what is causing this.
 
  I looked in my /var/log/kern.log file and found these differences before
 
  and after the reboot.
 
  The last line in this file has the line (note: the *date systemname* is
  acutially the date time and systemname at the time of the reboot.  I
  just didn't feel like typing it all in each time).
 
  *date systemname* kernel: ne.c No PCI cards found. use io=0xNNN values
 
  for ISA cards.
 
  Prior to the problem (earlier in the file) I had the following:
 
  *date systemname* kernel: ne.c v1.10 9/23/94 Donald Becher (*email
  address*)
  *date systemname* kernel: NE*000 ethercard probe at 0x300 00 50 4e 03 8b
 
  d6
  *date systemname* kernel: eth0: NE2000 found at 0x300 using IRQ 3
 
 
  Does anyone have an idea of what I did?  How can I get my networking
  re-activated?
 
  Thank you for your time,
 
  Doug Thistlethwaite
 
 
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Re: 3rd Call for help - Lost network card after Potato Upgrade

1999-07-18 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Thanks for the reply.

I am not sure if I was using module or kernel for the network card.  I have had
this system for awhile (potato is the third debian distrubution I have used, and
the network settings were setup at the very beginning.  How would I tell?  The
current kernel version seems to be 2.0.36

The /etc/init.d/network files is the same as it was before the upgrade,  what
should I be looking for?  For me to post it, I would have to type it in on this
windoze machine.

Doug

Mark Wagnon wrote:

 On 07/17/99 10:48 PM, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:
  Hello,  I hope someone can help me with this.  It seems like it should
  not to hard to fix, but without any knowledge of how or where the
  network services are started / initialized, I don't think I will figure
  it out without help.
 

 Hmm. I;m not how much assistance I'm going to be but here goes. Do you have
 support for you NIC either compiled into your kernel or as modules?

 What does your /etc/init.d/network file look like? This file is where you set
 up your network devices.

 I hope this gets this thread started, because I'veonly had my computers
 networked for a couple weeks and I'm still figuring things out.

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Re: 3rd Call for help - Lost network card after Potato Upgrade

1999-07-18 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Ok,

I went into modconf and select net and ne.

It said that this module was currently installed on my system.  It gave me two 
choices,

Exit or Remove the module from the kernel.
Where do I specify the io-0x300?  I do not see anywhere in the modconf that 
allows me to
edit anything.

Doug

Jim wrote:

 The easiest way for us to fix this would be by running modconf.  Hopefully
 nothing else is broken (which we'll find out soon).

 As root, run:
 modconf

 Then go to net and then ne and enable the module for your card.  The
 reason you aren't detecting the card?  modprobe will generally only detect
 PCI cards, unless you tell it the address to search.  In your case, your
 card's address is 0x300 and you will need to specify this as one of the
 options in modconf.  You will need to use:

 io=0x300

 as a command-line option for the module.

 That will probably take care of everything.  If not, let us know what
 troubles you run into and we'll go from there.  :)

 On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:

  Thanks for the reply.
 
  I am not sure if I was using module or kernel for the network card.  I have 
  had
  this system for awhile (potato is the third debian distrubution I have 
  used, and
  the network settings were setup at the very beginning.  How would I tell?  
  The
  current kernel version seems to be 2.0.36
 
  The /etc/init.d/network files is the same as it was before the upgrade,  
  what
  should I be looking for?  For me to post it, I would have to type it in on 
  this
  windoze machine.
 
  Doug
 
  Mark Wagnon wrote:
 
   On 07/17/99 10:48 PM, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:
Hello,  I hope someone can help me with this.  It seems like it should
not to hard to fix, but without any knowledge of how or where the
network services are started / initialized, I don't think I will figure
it out without help.
   
  
   Hmm. I;m not how much assistance I'm going to be but here goes. Do you 
   have
   support for you NIC either compiled into your kernel or as modules?
  
   What does your /etc/init.d/network file look like? This file is where you 
   set
   up your network devices.
  
   I hope this gets this thread started, because I'veonly had my computers
   networked for a couple weeks and I'm still figuring things out.
  
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Re: 3rd Call for help - Lost network card after Potato Upgrade

1999-07-18 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Thanks for all of the help!

I ended up removing the ne module and replaceing it with the io=0x300 irq=3 
specified in
the options.

I can now telnet to my system, so I think its fixed!  I will check it out the 
rest of
the way in the morning,

Doug

THANK YOU!

Doug

Jim wrote:

 The easiest way for us to fix this would be by running modconf.  Hopefully
 nothing else is broken (which we'll find out soon).

 As root, run:
 modconf

 Then go to net and then ne and enable the module for your card.  The
 reason you aren't detecting the card?  modprobe will generally only detect
 PCI cards, unless you tell it the address to search.  In your case, your
 card's address is 0x300 and you will need to specify this as one of the
 options in modconf.  You will need to use:

 io=0x300

 as a command-line option for the module.

 That will probably take care of everything.  If not, let us know what
 troubles you run into and we'll go from there.  :)

 On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:

  Thanks for the reply.
 
  I am not sure if I was using module or kernel for the network card.  I have 
  had
  this system for awhile (potato is the third debian distrubution I have 
  used, and
  the network settings were setup at the very beginning.  How would I tell?  
  The
  current kernel version seems to be 2.0.36
 
  The /etc/init.d/network files is the same as it was before the upgrade,  
  what
  should I be looking for?  For me to post it, I would have to type it in on 
  this
  windoze machine.
 
  Doug
 
  Mark Wagnon wrote:
 
   On 07/17/99 10:48 PM, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:
Hello,  I hope someone can help me with this.  It seems like it should
not to hard to fix, but without any knowledge of how or where the
network services are started / initialized, I don't think I will figure
it out without help.
   
  
   Hmm. I;m not how much assistance I'm going to be but here goes. Do you 
   have
   support for you NIC either compiled into your kernel or as modules?
  
   What does your /etc/init.d/network file look like? This file is where you 
   set
   up your network devices.
  
   I hope this gets this thread started, because I'veonly had my computers
   networked for a couple weeks and I'm still figuring things out.
  
   late
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samba password changes after potato upgrade

1999-07-18 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
After upgrading my system to potato, my samba services no longer work.
I get an error message saying that the password supplied is not valid.
Everything worked fine under slink.

If I remember correctly, part of the instructions on the old setup was
to remove password encryption so windows 95 could connect (Its been so
long, I'm not sure exactly what I did to set it up).  The latest version
of samba has encryption enabled for windows 95/98.

Where should I look to modify my configuration files?  Are there any
docs on conversion issues from the version that was stable with slink?

Thanks,

Doug


Help! Mr. Potato killed my networking!

1999-07-16 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Help!

I upgraded to potato a few days ago using dselect and I have been having
problems.  Here is the latest one (and worse one to date!)

After the upgrade, I had two problems that dselect couldn't fix itself.

#1 the gcc deb file would not load because of a conflicht with an old
libg++.
#2 setserial would not configure.

Well, I found out via this list that I needed to remove the old libg++
deb to allow the gcc to install... No problem I think...
The failure in the dselect config that referenced the setserial said
that the modules needed to be rebuilt and to type update-modules
force.  Well, I did this and the setserial is now happy,
Unfortunately, my system has lost all communications with the network!
I am not sure the setserial did it, but it happend the first reboot
after I did the two above changes to my system.

I looked in my /var/log/kern.log file and found these differences before
and after the reboot.

The last line in this file has the line

date systemname kernel: ne.c No PCI cards found. use io=0xNNN values
for ISA cards.

Prior to the problem (earlier in the file) I had the following:

date systemname kernel: ne.c v1.10 9/23/94 Donald Becher (*email
address*)
date systemname kernel: NE*000 ethercard probe at 0x300 00 50 4e 03 8b
d6
date systemname kernel: eth0: NE2000 found at 0x300 using IRQ 3


Does anyone have an idea of what I did?  How can I get my networking
re-activated?

Thanks

Doug Thistlethwaite


Lost PCI Network card after potato upgrade.

1999-07-16 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello,  I will try this question again without the attempt at humor...

I upgraded my slink system to potato using dselect 3-4 days ago.  After
the initalruns through dselect/install/config/remove there weretwo
problems still being reported.

#1 the gcc deb file would not load because of a conflicht with an old
libg++.
#2 setserial would not configure.

I removed the old libg++272 (I think that was its name) and gcc seemed
to install fine.

The error messages during the configureation of setserial said that my
modules needed to be updated and to run
update-module force and run configure again.  Well, I did this and the
above listed fix and now my network card is no longer detected.  (Note:
I noticed the problem after I rebooted the system so I am not sure
exactly what is causing this.

I looked in my /var/log/kern.log file and found these differences before

and after the reboot.

The last line in this file has the line (note: the *date systemname* is
acutially the date time and systemname at the time of the reboot.  I
just didn't feel like typing it all in each time).

*date systemname* kernel: ne.c No PCI cards found. use io=0xNNN values

for ISA cards.

Prior to the problem (earlier in the file) I had the following:

*date systemname* kernel: ne.c v1.10 9/23/94 Donald Becher (*email
address*)
*date systemname* kernel: NE*000 ethercard probe at 0x300 00 50 4e 03 8b

d6
*date systemname* kernel: eth0: NE2000 found at 0x300 using IRQ 3


Does anyone have an idea of what I did?  How can I get my networking
re-activated?

Thank you for your time,

Doug Thistlethwaite


gcc problem after potato upgrade

1999-07-15 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello,

I upgraded to potato a few days ago (I know, I should have used
apt-get!) and I have a conflict with gcc.

I get an error during configuration that says something about
gcc-2.91.66-2.deb process ending with an error because of a conflict
with /usr/bin/genclass which is also a part of libg++277-dev.

I am not sure exactly what  libg++... is so I was not sure what to do.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Doug


Re: Potato upgrade and Perl warnings...

1999-07-15 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Thanks for the reply.  Unfortunately, I used dselect to upgrade because I did 
not see any
talk about the apt-get upgrade command in time...

My system now seems to have some issues I need to work through.  I do not 
receive any
perl warning at this moment, so I think I will concentrate on fixing the 
warning I am
getting.

Doug


Mirek Kwasniak wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 14, 1999 at 09:27:06AM -0700, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:
  I finally decided to try potato because I wanted an easy way of getting
  the latest postgresql (6.5)...
 
  I was running slink and used dselect to upgrade.
 
  The biggest problem it seemed to find was a change in perl (DB1.85 -
  DB2).  It said something about using perl-5.004 to dump the DB1.85
  databases and then reload perl5.005 or use db_dump185(1) and db_load(1)
  in libc6...
 
  What is this talking about?  I only have perl loaded on my system
  because some other package required it.  I am not sure what databases
  this is talking about.  Any ideas?
 
  I have seen some references to using apt to install programs.  Which
  method is the best for someone who doesn't play with this stuff very
  often - dselect or apt?
 

 Best solution for upgrading distributions is `apt-get dist-upgrade'
 but not currently!!!

 Following suggestions on debian-list I did upgrade from slink to potato last
 night using `apt-get upgrade'.

 I had only to hold libmime-base package (new version depends on perl5.005)
 and upgraded with some troubles - four conflicts like:

 Unpacking replacement manpages-dev ...
 dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/manpages-dev_1.23-1_all.deb 
 (--unpack):
  trying to overwrite /usr/man/man3/btree.3.gz', which is also in package 
 glibc-doc

 I solved they by temporary removing of package or by concurrent installing
 `dpkg -i package1 package2'

 My `new' system wasn't pure potato distribution because some packages were
 obsolete. I went to dselect and analysed problems. I purged some not needed
 packages.

 I did one mistake: xntp3* packages are replaced by ntp*. I marked xntp3 to
 purge and ntp to install. After installing I saw that xntp3 and some other
 packages were only removed not purged. I did `dpkg --purge ...' and
 /etc/ntp.conf went away because it was xntp3 conf-file and ntp hasn't it.
 But I have backup of /etc :)

 Mirek

 I


Re: gcc problem after potato upgrade

1999-07-15 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Thanks for the quick reply!

I guess this means that dselect didn't mark the new version of the libg++
for installation.  I assume that I should select the latest version
libg++2.8.2-glibc2.1-2.91.66-2.deb and that should allow gcc to install
correctly.

Do I need to remove the old version first, or will selecting the new version
automaticly get rid of the old package?

Thanks,

Doug

Mirek Kwasniak wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 15, 1999 at 09:30:12AM -0700, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I upgraded to potato a few days ago (I know, I should have used
  apt-get!) and I have a conflict with gcc.
 
  I get an error during configuration that says something about
  gcc-2.91.66-2.deb process ending with an error because of a conflict
  with /usr/bin/genclass which is also a part of libg++277-dev.
 
  I am not sure exactly what  libg++... is so I was not sure what to do.
 
  Any suggestions?
 
 You need common version compiler and library:
 gcc-2.91.66-2.deb
 libg++2.8.2-glibc2.1-2.91.66-2.deb

 Mirek


Potato upgrade and Perl warnings...

1999-07-14 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
I finally decided to try potato because I wanted an easy way of getting
the latest postgresql (6.5)...

I was running slink and used dselect to upgrade.

The biggest problem it seemed to find was a change in perl (DB1.85 -
DB2).  It said something about using perl-5.004 to dump the DB1.85
databases and then reload perl5.005 or use db_dump185(1) and db_load(1)
in libc6...

What is this talking about?  I only have perl loaded on my system
because some other package required it.  I am not sure what databases
this is talking about.  Any ideas?

I have seen some references to using apt to install programs.  Which
method is the best for someone who doesn't play with this stuff very
often - dselect or apt?

Thanks,

Doug


Problem with postgresql jdbc package examples

1999-07-12 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello,

I downloaded the postgresql packages and the jdbc stuff and am trying to
get the included examples working.  I get the following message when I
run the basic example in the jdbc package.

Connecting to Database URL = jdbc.postgresql://dragonknoll:5432/doug
Exception caught.
java.sql.SQLException: No suitable driver
java.sql.SQLException: No suitable driver
at java.sql.DriverManager.getConnection(Compiled Code)
at java.sql.DriverManager.getConnection(DriverManager.java:137)
at example.basic.init(basic.java:34)
at example.basic.main(basic.java:168)


Does this mean there is a problem with the driver?  The postgresql.jar
file is in the classpath.  The linux system I am using is called
dragonknoll and it should be using the default port of 5432.

Any thoughts on what is going wrong?

Thanks,

Doug


Re: Changing IP address

1999-06-03 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite


Dan Willard wrote:

  You are correct that your ISP is clueless.  Going by the numbers that you
 sent, your home network and theirs are one network with the same network
 number and broadcast number.  And why your router calls out whenever a
 broadcast packet is sent.

Dan, Thanks for the information.  I was kind of thinking that they had a
problem with
what they gave me.  (see below).


   Now, provided that the numbers for your range are correct, your linux box
 is trying to take the broadcast number for your home network.  And yes, the
 first number in a range is the network number (even) and the last is the
 broadcast number (odd), your reasoning looks good to me.  Gonna take a
 little work to straighten it out.
   You should call your ISP and varify your home network numbers.  Yell at
 'em if they give you a wrong subnet, its a major security hole for both you
 and them. (Unless you are using your office's network, then different rules
 apply).
  Both your win95 and linux boxes need the same subnetmask number.  You'll
 need to change you linux box's ip to something other than 103 (100 looks
 good).  You should also change your router's subnet to match
 (204.178.54.101/29 if the router doen't like it try /21, some routers drop
 the first 8 bits) and change its network and broadcast numbers.  You will
 also probably have to change the route in the router to point to the new
 network.
   I hope I haven't forgoten anything.  Now, don't you just love computers
 and networks?

Humm

Basically, my ISP gave me three IP addresses (I had to twist his arm as
normally he changes A LOT more for static IP addresses.  I have .101,
.102, and .103 on his network with .253 being his system.  His
suggestion is to use 255.255.255.0 for the netmask, with .0 for the
network and .255 for the broadcast address.  I have asked him a few
question on this issue and I think he is already getting tired of me! :O

Oh, one more piece of information If I pull the power on my router, my
pc can't connect to the samba on the linux at all!

I have the feeling that if I push to much, I am going to become a
internet orphan again.  In my location, I am having a very hard time
trying to get ISDN service within my local calling area.  I am basically
waiting for DSL to arrive later this summer.  This said...

Is there any way for me to use the three IP addresses they assigned to
me?  I know the router (pipeline 50) has some fancy features and maybe
they can help.  I tried the following this morning after your last
message.

IPADDR .103
NETMASK 255.255.255.240
NETWORK=.96
BROADCAST= .111
GATEWAY= .101

on my linux system.  The thought was that I could use 4 bits to define
my network (FF.FF.FF.F0) and with the number 101, 102, 103, it would
define the block between .96 and .111

Unfortunately, after I changed each system to these settings, the
network still behaved in the same way.

Can I know the pipeline 50 has filters, DHCP, NAT, and other fancy
features.  Unfortunately, I do not have a manual for the device.

Thanks for the help,


Doug


Re: Changing IP address

1999-06-01 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Well,

I have now have the linux system working on my network.  I ended up changing 
the network
broadcast, and netmask to (XXX.XXX.XXX.0, XXX.XXX.XXX.255, and 255.255.255.0
respectively).  I do not know why I had to do this as my network mask was far 
more
restrictive 255.255.255.248 with my last ISP.  I guess I need to do a little 
more studying
on what each of these parameters do.

I do still have a few behavior problems (my network that is :) !

1. My windows 95 system can not see my linux samba server in network 
neighborhood (it use
to see it fine).  I can type in the link by hand \\linuxsystemid\username to 
create the
link.  Does anybody know if there is a parameter in samba that relates to 
system IP
addresses?

2. My router logs into the internet every time my windoze 95 system powers up 
and connects
to the samba servers.  I think this has to do with the netmask...

Thanks to everyone who has helped!

Doug

Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:

 I am using a 2.036 kernel I believe.

 One thing to note is this system was working perfectly on the network before 
 I was
 forced to change my IP addresses.  All I want to do is setup the new IP 
 addresses in
 the system.  I would think the only thing I would need to do is set the 
 correct IP and
 netmasks.

 Doug

 George Bonser wrote:

  On Sun, 30 May 1999, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:
 
   So far I have had a couple of people help and this is what we have come 
   up with.
  
   To change the IP address of a system the following files need to be 
   modified.
  
   ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
  
   executes without any errors.
  
   route add -net ${NETWORK}
  
   executes and gives the error SIOCADDR: invalid argument
 
  Yeah, if you are using a 2.2.x kernel, comment this line out, the network
  route is auto-added when you ifconfig the interface.
 
  George Bonser
 
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Re: Changing IP address

1999-05-31 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
I am using a 2.036 kernel I believe.

One thing to note is this system was working perfectly on the network before I 
was
forced to change my IP addresses.  All I want to do is setup the new IP 
addresses in
the system.  I would think the only thing I would need to do is set the correct 
IP and
netmasks.

Doug

George Bonser wrote:

 On Sun, 30 May 1999, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:

  So far I have had a couple of people help and this is what we have come up 
  with.
 
  To change the IP address of a system the following files need to be 
  modified.
 
  ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
 
  executes without any errors.
 
  route add -net ${NETWORK}
 
  executes and gives the error SIOCADDR: invalid argument

 Yeah, if you are using a 2.2.x kernel, comment this line out, the network
 route is auto-added when you ifconfig the interface.

 George Bonser

 Welcome to Wit's End


Re: Changing IP address

1999-05-30 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
So far I have had a couple of people help and this is what we have come up with.

To change the IP address of a system the following files need to be modified.

/etc/hosts - This was easy to figure out.

/etc/resolv.conf - Just change the DNS servers to the new IP's.

/etc/networks - I am a little confused on this one.  My system had a single 
line in
this file of:
localnet 204.178.205.224  where the IP address of the linux system was 
204.178.205.227

and the pipeline router's IP was 204.178.205.225.  How is the number 
determined?  It
must have been calculated by the install scripts as I do not remember typing it 
in.

/etc/init.d/network - Here is where I am having my problems.

I have modified the IPADDR to my new IP address of the linux system.  
XXX.XXX.XXX.103
I have left the NETMASK at 255.255.255.248 as it was set before.
I set NETWORK to the IP address of the router minus XXX.XXX.XXX.100  - IS THIS
CORRECT?
I set the BROADCAST to what it was before XXX.XXX.XXX.231 - IS THIS CORRECT?
The GATEWAY is set to XXX.XXX.XXX.101 which is the IP address of my router.

The lines:

ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}

executes without any errors.

route add -net ${NETWORK}

executes and gives the error SIOCADDR: invalid argument

The last line also gives an error SIOCADDR: Network is unreachable but I 
think that
is probably caused by the former error.

Is there anything else we need to change that is not listed above? -or- Does 
anyone
have an idea of why this error occurs and what value NETWORK shoud be?

Any ideas on an easier way to get this working?  I know during the original 
install,
it was much easier to understand and many of these parameters were calculated 
by the
script.

Thanks,

Doug



Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:

 Hello,

 I just changed my IP and as a result, I now have new IP addresses.  How
 do I go about changing the IP address of my machine?  I will need to
 change the DNS as well...

 Also, I use SAMBA and I can't remember if I had any changes to be done
 there.

 If you know what is involved in this, please point me in the right
 direction! :)

 Thanks,

 Doug

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Changing IP address

1999-05-29 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello,

I just changed my IP and as a result, I now have new IP addresses.  How
do I go about changing the IP address of my machine?  I will need to
change the DNS as well...

Also, I use SAMBA and I can't remember if I had any changes to be done
there.

If you know what is involved in this, please point me in the right
direction! :)

Thanks,

Doug


Using linux to protect a DSL connection.

1999-05-04 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello,

I am about to get a DSL connection for my home.  I have two systems at
my house (debian linux system and a windoze 95).  Both of these systems
are currently connected to a pipeline 50 (ISDN) router and the pipeline
will be replaced by a DSL gateway.  My ISP will give me two fixed  IP
addresses so each system will have it's own unique one.

I asked the ISP about firewall protection and if I needed to protect my
systems.  He had some pretty funny stories about customers who came home
to an empty paper tray because someone decided to use their printer
(network neighborhood) to print a book or two.  His suggestion was to
use the linux system to protect the win95 system -OR- make absolutely
sure the win95 system didn't have any software that allowed outside
access loaded onto it.

Ok, my little home network uses samba to serve my linux drive to the old
win95 system.  I also plan to use it for printers as well.

Now the question:

How should I protect these systems from outside hack attacks?

If I add a second network card to the linux system and set it up as a
firewall, will I still use the ISP assigned IP address or will it be
wasted?

What is the best way to configure the Samba services so it isn't a
security leak via the gateway?

What else should I think / worry about?

Thanks in advance for your time!

Doug Thistlethwaite


Which network card to buy

1999-04-26 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello,

I am setting up a Debian system as a firewall so I will  need to buy a
network cards.  Which network cards have you had good luck with?  What
should I look for and stay away from?

In looking in a catalog I have seen network cards from Intel, 3COM, SMC,
Allied Telesyn, NetGear, and Samsung.  Are there any mfg's I should stay
away from?

the system I am going to use has a built-in network card on the
motherboard.  This is a DELL Pent 133 system we purchased a few years
ago.  I have one free PCI slot on this computer, so I have two choices.

1. But 1 PCI card and use the motherboard network card.
2. Buy 2 ISA cards and just ignore the motherboard network card.

Which option would be the easiest to install?

Thanks,

Doug Thistlethwaite


Linux system as a firewall

1999-04-14 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello all,

My company is looking to changing from an dial-up ISDN connection to a
full time DSL connection.  In doing this, it has been recommended that
we use a linux system with two network cards as a firewall from our
internal systems.

What packages should I load (or not load) to give us good protection
from outside problems.  I have been using a linux system at home and
this will be the first use of linux at our company (a good start).  It
looks like they will give me a Pent 133 system with 32MB RAM and 1GB
SCSI disk for use.

Are there any special problems with doing this that I need to be aware
of?  What docs and FAQ's should I read before I get started?


Thanks in advance!

Doug Thistlethwaite


Setting up Sound

1999-02-18 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello,

Well, I finally got some noise out of my SB16 compatible sound card!  A
special thanks to everyone who helped!  

I finally got it working by using pnpdump to configure my PNP card, and
I upgraded to the 2.0.36 kernel and used make xconfig following the
Instructions in the CMI8330 Mini-Howto...  I compiled my sound as a
module.

I can now use freeamp and play mp3 files. They sound pretty good.

NOW THE PROBLEM:

Question #1: I installed the rvplayer using the .deb file in slink and
the sound from it is all static.  I tried playing the file that is in
the /usr/doc/rvplayer/examples directory and it can be heard, but there
is some strange static.  All links to the internet (radio stations) I
tried were complete static!  Even the realaudio site where it does its
demo thing.

Does anyone know how to get the rvplayer to work?

Question #2: My sound card has SB16 compatible mode, WSS mode, and a
MPU-401 mode.  I have base I/O addresses irq's and dma setting for each
of these that are setup in the isapnp.conf file.  for the MPU-401 stuff,
I had conflicting information on what to add into the sound
configuration,I had some instructions saying to set the IRQ to -1 and
other instructions to set it to 9 as my isapnp.conf file show it.  I
have tried it both ways and everything seems to work the same.  Does
anyone know how this should be set up?  

Thanks,

Doug Thistlethwaite


Re: Lost libc5 stuff after upgrade from hamm to slink

1999-02-18 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Athanasius wrote:
 
 Hi, saw your message on the debian list, just have a question, hope you
 don't mind.  Did Netscape also have problems after you removed libc5?  When
 I got libc6, it took out both wordperfect and netscape.  Unlike yours,
 however, mine said that it couldn't find libXt.so.5. What files do I need
 to add/remove to get things back to normal again?  Thanks!
 
There are two version of netscape that you can download.  One is for the
glibc and the other is for the old library.  There are three packages
that need to be added to restore the libc5

xlib6
xpm4.7
libc5

In my case, I downloaded the version that goes with the slink netscape4
installer.  This is the glibc version and it installs without a hitch. 
By adding the above three packages, it did restore my wp8 which I does
only work with the libc5 libs.

Give this a try and see if it fixes it.

Doug

PS: Your email address wasn't valid...

 At 02:50 AM 2/14/99 -0800, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:
 Thanks Bob!
 
 That did the trick.  I only had the libc5 package loaded.  When I loaded
 the  xlib6 and xpm4.7 everything started working again.
 
 Thanks again for your help!
 
 Doug
 
 
 Bob Nielsen wrote:
 
  On Sun, 14 Feb 1999, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:
 
   Hello,
  
   I was in the process of getting my system into a good configuration to
   install my sound card.  In the process of doing this, I switched from
   the hamm distribution to the slink.  Everything seemed to work ok during
   the dselect thing, but when I finished, my wordperfect 8 nolonger
   functioned.  The error message was can'tload library libXt.so.6.  I used
   locate which had its database from before the change and I found that I
   had that file (and a bunch of other ones) in the /usr/lib/libc5-compat
   directory.  The libXt.so.6 file was no longer there.
  
   Well, in my infinate wisdom, :)  I just used dselect to remove libc5
   with the thought of reiinstalling it to get the file back.  Well,  It
   erase several more packages then I bargined for (none to critical).  I
   tried to re-install the libc5 stuff and the scripts finished without any
   errors.  But the libc5-compat directory is not completely empty!
  
   What package do I need to load to get the libc5 based libraries working
   again?  So far, the only casulity I have seen is WP8, but I'll bet I
   will find others as time goes by.
 
  xlib6
  xpm4.7
  libc5
 
  Bob
 
  
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Lost libc5 stuff after upgrade from hamm to slink

1999-02-14 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello,

I was in the process of getting my system into a good configuration to
install my sound card.  In the process of doing this, I switched from
the hamm distribution to the slink.  Everything seemed to work ok during
the dselect thing, but when I finished, my wordperfect 8 nolonger
functioned.  The error message was can'tload library libXt.so.6.  I used
locate which had its database from before the change and I found that I
had that file (and a bunch of other ones) in the /usr/lib/libc5-compat
directory.  The libXt.so.6 file was no longer there.

Well, in my infinate wisdom, :)  I just used dselect to remove libc5
with the thought of reiinstalling it to get the file back.  Well,  It
erase several more packages then I bargined for (none to critical).  I
tried to re-install the libc5 stuff and the scripts finished without any
errors.  But the libc5-compat directory is not completely empty!

What package do I need to load to get the libc5 based libraries working
again?  So far, the only casulity I have seen is WP8, but I'll bet I
will find others as time goes by.

Thank,

Doug Thistlethwaite


Re: Lost libc5 stuff after upgrade from hamm to slink

1999-02-14 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Thanks Bob!

That did the trick.  I only had the libc5 package loaded.  When I loaded
the  xlib6 and xpm4.7 everything started working again.

Thanks again for your help!

Doug


Bob Nielsen wrote:
 
 On Sun, 14 Feb 1999, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  I was in the process of getting my system into a good configuration to
  install my sound card.  In the process of doing this, I switched from
  the hamm distribution to the slink.  Everything seemed to work ok during
  the dselect thing, but when I finished, my wordperfect 8 nolonger
  functioned.  The error message was can'tload library libXt.so.6.  I used
  locate which had its database from before the change and I found that I
  had that file (and a bunch of other ones) in the /usr/lib/libc5-compat
  directory.  The libXt.so.6 file was no longer there.
 
  Well, in my infinate wisdom, :)  I just used dselect to remove libc5
  with the thought of reiinstalling it to get the file back.  Well,  It
  erase several more packages then I bargined for (none to critical).  I
  tried to re-install the libc5 stuff and the scripts finished without any
  errors.  But the libc5-compat directory is not completely empty!
 
  What package do I need to load to get the libc5 based libraries working
  again?  So far, the only casulity I have seen is WP8, but I'll bet I
  will find others as time goes by.
 
 xlib6
 xpm4.7
 libc5
 
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Re: Installing Sound Card

1999-02-13 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Thanks for the reply.  Is there a way to get the card setting without going to
windows...  My system doesn't have windows on it at all.  I installed linux 
directly
onto it.  Its kind of MS free... As much as I could make it.

Doug

Mark Wagnon wrote:

 Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  I'm looking for someone who would help walk me through the process of 
  installing
  my sound card on my 2.0.33 kernel system.  I have read the howto's and such 
  and
  I am totally confused!  My attempt to generate a kernel resulted in a 1.6MB
  monstrosity that is to big to run...  I have been playing with this on and 
  off
  for 4 months...
 
  My system is a P166 64MB system running the current debian release.  The 
  sound
  card os a SoundPro Soundblaster/PRO compatible card that has absolutely no
  marking on it.  The chip it uses is a SoundPro HT1869V+ (F30446) 9729.

 I'm pretty much totally ignorant as far as setting up sound is
 concerned, but here is what I did. Your mileage may vary.

 The first thing you need to do is to find out all the info you can on
 your sound card: IRQ, I/O addresses, DMA. You can get this info from
 within win9X, buy going into the control panel, clicking on system, then
 clicking on your sound card, or something to that effect. Sorry, but I
 haven't used windows in a while :)

 Now I got a list similar (with less detail) off of another mailing list.
 I was lucky because the guy had the same card I have (SB AWE 64), and my
 setting were the same. I don't know what all the specs are. I'll
 indicate where I'm clueless with an '***', and I'll give you the values
 I entered in brackets [].

 Next get into the /usr/src/linux dir and type make xconfig.
 Then do each of these:
 click on Sound
 click y for Sound card support
 click y for Sound Blaster (SB, SBPro, SB16, clones) support
 scroll down a little ways
 click y for /dev/dsp and /dev/audio support
 click y for MIDI interface support
 click y for FM systhesizer (YM3812/OPL-3) support
 enter your I/O base address for I/O base for SB...[I entered 220]
 enter yor IRQ for Sound Blaster IRQ...[5]
 enter your DMA for Sound Blaster DMA...   [1]
 enter other DMA for Sound Blaster 16 bit DMA...   [1]***
 enter your MPU for MPU401 I/O base... [330]***
 enter -1 for SB MPU401 IRQ... [-1]***
 scroll all the way down (leaving all other entries alone)
 enter 65536 for your Audio DMA buffer size
 that's it!
 Save, exit, and recompile and you should be golden!

 I hope this isn't too confusing :)

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Re: Installing Sound Card

1999-02-13 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Thanks for the reply Andrei... Unfortunately it is a PNP card and I do not have
windoze on the system to get the port numbers from.

As for my kernel, when I tried to make it, it asked me a ton of questions and
didn't seem to have any defaults in it at all.  I ended up specifying the things
I thought I needed, but obviously I didn't know what I was doing... :)

I have played with isapnptools but I got completely confused when I was trying
to edit the DUMP output.  I don't want to screw up my system...

Any ideas on how I should proceed?

Thanks,

Doug

Andrei Ivanov wrote:

  Next get into the /usr/src/linux dir and type make xconfig.
  Then do each of these:
  click on Sound
  click y for Sound card support
  click y for Sound Blaster (SB, SBPro, SB16, clones) support
  scroll down a little ways
  click y for /dev/dsp and /dev/audio support
  click y for MIDI interface support
  click y for FM systhesizer (YM3812/OPL-3) support
  enter your I/O base address for I/O base for SB...[I entered 220]

 This value here is the first IO base that you get in Windows/Resources
 window for your sound card. The second IO base value will work for MPU401.

  enter yor IRQ for Sound Blaster IRQ...[5]

 Err...be careful here. IRQ5 seems to be a very desired IRQ, and many
 things tend to
 grab it. I know on my machine, in Windows, it was conflicting with NIC,
 and in Lin. I have my PnP modem on irq5. So, make sure first by
 cat /proc/interrupts
 that you don't have an IRQ taken already.

  enter your DMA for Sound Blaster DMA...   [1]
  enter other DMA for Sound Blaster 16 bit DMA...   [1]***

 Windows tell you the second DMA.

  enter your MPU for MPU401 I/O base... [330]***

 Put the second IO range that you get from Windows here.

  enter -1 for SB MPU401 IRQ... [-1]***
  scroll all the way down (leaving all other entries alone)
  enter 65536 for your Audio DMA buffer size
  that's it!
  Save, exit, and recompile and you should be golden!
 

 But I'm wondering what you put in that kernel of yours1.6M?
 Anyway, like Mark pointed out, just click Y for SB support, and such, as
 described up there.

 And I hope it's not a PnP card either.

 Andrew

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Re: Installing Sound Card

1999-02-13 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Thanks everyone for the help!  I may get this working yet! :)

I tried the pnpdump -c /tmp/foo and got the following message:

Port address -c (0x) out of range 0x203..0x3ff

I did a standard pnpdump /tmp/foo and the output is listed below.  In
reading the docs on pnpdump, I need to edit this file.  Where should I
start?

Also, if I want to move to the 2.2.1 kernel, what will I need to do?  Is
it as simple as using dselect to get a pre-compilied kernel, or will I
need to remove a bunch of stuff and load new version?  So far, I made if
from BO - HAMM without to much trouble.  What would this change entail?

 PNPDUMP OUTPUT attached as file foo




M.C. Vernon wrote:
 
  Thanks for the reply.  Is there a way to get the card setting without going 
  to
  windows...  My system doesn't have windows on it at all.  I installed linux 
  directly
  onto it.  Its kind of MS free... As much as I could make it.
 
 Gain 100karma points! :) I am also pure in this regard ;), so I've had to
 figure out getting these settings without DOS:
 
 You want isapnptools (section base) (and possibly pciutils (section
 admin)). As root, run
 
 pnpdump -c  foo
 
 look at foo; this should contain all the settings you want. If it is a PCI
 card and the above doesn't work, then try
 
 lspci -vv bar
 
 In either case, having set up the kernel OK, you'll want to move foo to
 /etc/isapnp.conf; this will run the script you created earlier at boot-up
 (and initialise the card to those settings).
 
 It's also worth looking at Documentation/sound in your linux source tree,
 and using the latest kernel (2.2.1)
 
 HTH,
 
 Matthew
 
 p.s a few notes on recompiling your kernel. I prefer menuconfig to xconfig
 (YYMV though). Either way, go through all the options systematically, and
 read the relevant help screens; generally try not to include too much, and
 consider having things as modules (I particularly recommend sound in this
 regard)
 
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 Debian GNU/Hurd - love at first byte# $Id: pnpdump.c,v 1.1.1.2 1998/01/07 05:17:47 fred Exp $
# This is free software, see the sources for details.
# This software has NO WARRANTY, use at your OWN RISK
#
# For details of this file format, see isapnp.conf(5)
#
# For latest information on isapnp and pnpdump see:
# http://www.roestock.demon.co.uk/isapnptools/
#
# Compiler flags: -DREALTIME -DNEEDSETSCHEDULER -DNEEDNANOSLEEP
#
# Trying port address 0203
# Trying port address 020b
# Board 1 has serial identifier 8d 01 00 01 00 01 00 a9 0d

# (DEBUG)
(READPORT 0x020b)
(ISOLATE)
(IDENTIFY *)

# Card 1: (serial identifier 8d 01 00 01 00 01 00 a9 0d)
# Vendor Id CMI0001, Serial Number 16777472, checksum 0x8D.
# Version 1.0, Vendor version 0.0
# ANSI string --CMI8330 Audio Adapter--
#
# Logical device id @@@0001
#
# Edit the entries below to uncomment out the configuration required.
# Note that only the first value of any range is given, this may be changed if 
required
# Don't forget to uncomment the activate (ACT Y) when happy

(CONFIGURE CMI0001/16777472 (LD 0

# Multiple choice time, choose one only !

# Start dependent functions: priority preferred
#   Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
# Minimum IO base address 0x0530
# Maximum IO base address 0x0530
# IO base alignment 0 bytes
# Number of IO addresses required: 8
# (IO 0 (BASE 0x0530))
#   Fixed IO base address 0x0388
# Number of IO addresses required: 8
# (IO 1 (BASE 0x0388))
#   IRQ 11.
# High true, edge sensitive interrupt (by default)
# (INT 0 (IRQ 11 (MODE +E)))
#   First DMA channel 0.
# 8 bit DMA only
# Logical device is not a bus master
# DMA may execute in count by byte mode
# DMA may not execute in count by word mode
# DMA channel speed in compatible mode
# (DMA 0 (CHANNEL 0))

#   Start dependent functions: priority acceptable
#   Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines
# Minimum IO base address 0x0530
# Maximum IO base address 0x0530
# IO base alignment 0 bytes
# Number of IO addresses required: 8
# (IO 0 (BASE 0x0530))
#   Logical device decodes 10 bit IO address lines
# Minimum IO base address 0x0388
# Maximum IO base address 0x03f8
# IO base alignment 16 bytes
# Number of IO addresses required: 8
# (IO 1 (BASE 0x0388))
#   IRQ 7, 9, 10 or 11.
# High true, edge sensitive interrupt (by default)
# (INT 0 (IRQ 7 (MODE +E)))
#   First DMA channel 0, 1 or 3.
# 8 bit DMA only
# Logical device is not a bus master
# DMA may execute in count by byte mode
# DMA may not execute in count by word mode
# DMA 

Re: Installing Sound Card

1999-02-13 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Thanks for the reply.  Questions below! :)

Jiri Baum wrote:
 
 Doug Thistlethwaite:
  Thanks for the reply Andrei... Unfortunately it is a PNP card and I do
  not have windoze on the system to get the port numbers from.
 
 In that case, you need isapnp and pnpdump.
 
 The latter gives you an initial file to work from, you just need to decide
 what IRQ etc you want - anything the card will take that's not already
 listed in /proc/interrupts
 
 One problem with the output is that it intermingles comment-comments with
 comments that you should uncomment. Fortunately, all the things you need to
 uncomment are in brackets. So it might offer you for some card:
 
 # IRQ 4, 5, 7, 10, 11, 12 or 15.
 # High true, edge sensitive interrupt
 # (INT 0 (IRQ 4 (MODE +E)))
 

I posted my pnpdump output in a previous message to the mailing list.  
There seems to be a TON of options in this file.  I see some lines:
# Card 1: (serial identifier 8d 01 00 01 00 01 00 a9 0d)
# Vendor Id CMI0001, Serial Number 16777472, checksum 0x8D.
# Version 1.0, Vendor version 0.0
# ANSI string --CMI8330 Audio Adapter--

Is this my sound card?  The vendor for the card is SoundPro according
to the 3x5 single page instruction manual that came with it... :) 
After this, it says it multiple choice time.  Am I suppose to just guess
and uncomment one line in each section?  My system has a network card,
scsi card, and sound card on the ISA bus, the video card on the PCI
bus.  Will my changing things here mess with my network card (which is
working fine) or the scsi card (not currently in use, but I want to
connect my zip drive there in the future.


 So you check /proc/interrupts, and find that it doesn't list 5 (of the
 numbers given by pnpdump). So you change the last line to:
 
 (INT 0 (IRQ 5 (MODE +E)))
 
 Note the lack of the # at the beginning of the line, and the 5.

my /proc/interrupts file has the following:
 0:   14634451   timer
 1:  11960   keyboard
 2:  0   cascade
 3: 386964   NE2000
 4: 164528 + serial
 8:   0:   14634451   timer
 1:  11960   keyboard
 2:  0   cascade
 3: 386964   NE2000
 4: 164528 + serial
 8:  2 + rtc
13:  1   math error
14:  47173 + ide0
15:  30081 + ide1
2 + rtc
13:  1   math error
14:  47173 + ide0
15:  30081 + ide1


So  what about all of the IO BASE 0x0388 type stuff?  Are there seperate
PNP setting for each function of the sound card?  If so, which ones do I
need to setup if I only want to play sound and not record any?

 
  As for my kernel, when I tried to make it, it asked me a ton of questions
  and didn't seem to have any defaults in it at all.
 
 It does have defaults, but once you've been through it once, it uses your
 previous answers as defaults.
 
 To get a fresh start, move the file .config somewhere else. I think that
 should do the trick.
 
  I ended up specifying the things I thought I needed, but obviously I
  didn't know what I was doing... :)
 
 It offers drivers for a lot of things you don't have. Just make sure you
 answer 'n' if you don't have the corresponding hardware. You don't need
 drivers for XT hard disks, Appletalk or IDE tape drives unless you have
 those things.
 
 Remember that if the new kernel doesn't recognise something, you can easily
 go back and add it in - once you've compiled the kernel once, compiling it
 again is easy.
 
 Note that with the PnP card, you'll need to tell it to make the soundcard
 driver a module.
 
 Jiri
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Thanks for the input,  I will see if I can find the .config file and
move it.  I don't remember any standard settings when I last tried it,
but I will give it a close look again.

Thanks a bunch!

Doug


Installing Sound Card

1999-02-12 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello,

I'm looking for someone who would help walk me through the process of installing
my sound card on my 2.0.33 kernel system.  I have read the howto's and such and
I am totally confused!  My attempt to generate a kernel resulted in a 1.6MB
monstrosity that is to big to run...  I have been playing with this on and off
for 4 months...

My system is a P166 64MB system running the current debian release.  The sound
card os a SoundPro Soundblaster/PRO compatible card that has absolutely no
marking on it.  The chip it uses is a SoundPro HT1869V+ (F30446) 9729.

Thanks a million!

Doug


Re: Netscape woes...

1999-02-07 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Ok, I removed the .netscape directory and now the script in 
/usr/bin/X11/netscape works
fine. (This seems to start v4.05)  This is when I get the Aborted. error 
message.

Now if I type /usr/local/netscape/netscape I still get the bus error.  I wonder 
if
anyone else is having problems with v4.5.  Something is screwy here, because 
the script
in the X11 directory (the debian thing) appears to call the exec in the
/usr/local/netscape directory...  I am confused... :O

Thanks for you help!

Doug

Rob Mahurin wrote:

 I got the bus error message repeatedly some time ago for absolutely no
 apparent reason.  I moved my ~/.netscape/ directory to .netscape.screwed/
 and ran it again, and it gave the you haven't run netscape before dialog
 and set itself up again and worked fine.  I never figured out what was
 changed, but you might try that.  Hope it helps.

 Rob

 On Sat, Feb 06, 1999 at 10:14:17AM -0800, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I hope someone can help with this.
 
  I have been using netscape 4.05 for some time without a hitch.  Recently, my
  disk ran out of space and sense then, my netscape will not run (I fixed the 
  disk
  space problem BTW).  I get the message Aborted. when I try to start it 
  from a
  command line.
 
  Today, I figured my netscape files were probably screwed up so I downloaded 
  the
  v4.5 files from netscape and installed them using the ns-install (like I did
  before).  I still get the Aborted. if I type netscape in a $ prompt (This 
  runs
  the script in /usr/bin/X11) and I get the error bus error if I type
  /usr/local/netscape.
 
  Any ideas on what is wrong with this?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Doug
 
 
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Netscape woes...

1999-02-06 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello,

I hope someone can help with this.

I have been using netscape 4.05 for some time without a hitch.  Recently, my
disk ran out of space and sense then, my netscape will not run (I fixed the disk
space problem BTW).  I get the message Aborted. when I try to start it from a
command line.

Today, I figured my netscape files were probably screwed up so I downloaded the
v4.5 files from netscape and installed them using the ns-install (like I did
before).  I still get the Aborted. if I type netscape in a $ prompt (This runs
the script in /usr/bin/X11) and I get the error bus error if I type
/usr/local/netscape.

Any ideas on what is wrong with this?

Thanks,

Doug


DB2 and Debian

1999-01-12 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello,

I have been looking at IBM's latest beta for DB2 for linux found at:
http://www.software.ibm.com/data/db2/

I noticed that it was in RPM format so I installed the  Alien/RPM/...
package and tried their db2setup script.  It still doesn't seem to want
to work.

Has anyone tried to install this program on a debian system?

Did it work  if so, what steps do I need to follow the get it properly
installed?

Finally, what version of debian should I be running?

Thanks,

Doug Thistlethwaite


Re: Network tracing software

1998-09-21 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
I did not receive any responses to this inquiry, but I was able to find a 
couple of
windows 95 applications that did the job (gag).

They are: lantrend and lanstat from www.intellimax.com.  They have a demo 
version that
did what I needed.  The fee for the full version is kind of steep.

Doug

Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:

 Hello,

 Are there any network tracing packages available for Debian?  What I'm looking
 for is something that will keep track of network activity and keep a log of 
 what
 connections are being made to my system (as well as where my systems are 
 calling
 out to).  I have a ISDN router that was activating itself when nobody was
 talking to the internet.  After a ton of searching, I discovered that one of 
 the
 win95 PC's had Real Player G2 installed and it was calling home from time to
 time...  Pretty expensive on the ole phone bill...

 Thanks,

 Doug

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Network tracing software

1998-09-17 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello,

Are there any network tracing packages available for Debian?  What I'm looking
for is something that will keep track of network activity and keep a log of what
connections are being made to my system (as well as where my systems are calling
out to).  I have a ISDN router that was activating itself when nobody was
talking to the internet.  After a ton of searching, I discovered that one of the
win95 PC's had Real Player G2 installed and it was calling home from time to
time...  Pretty expensive on the ole phone bill...

Thanks,

Doug


standard HAMM connecting on its own to internet?

1998-08-30 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello,

I am having a strange problem with my recently upgraded BO -- HAMM system.  I
have a router (pipeline 50) connected to a very small network (2 machines).  I
have noticed that my ISDN line has been active when no one is using the
computers at all.

Is there something in the standard (just upgraded) HAMM release that would
periodically connect to the internet by itself?  During the day, I get charged a
pretty large fee for access and I would like the system to only connect when I
tell it to! :)

Thanks,

Doug


Re: Installing XFSTT on HAMM

1998-08-19 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Thanks for the tips!  I got the package and it seemed to install just
fine by following your instructions.  I think the easiest order would be
to move the  fonts first before the install.  (I ran the install script
twice after it got angry about the fonts...)  If the fonts are there,
the install script does everything.

Do you (or anyone else) know how much overhead (if any) a bunch of fonts
have on the system (besides their storage space).  I ended up moving 330
ttf files from my win 95 disk.

Thanks again for your help!

Doug
   Thanks for the tips!  I got the package and it seemed to install just
fine by following your instructions.  I think the easiest order would be
to move the  fonts first before the install.  (I ran the install script
twice after it got angry about the fonts...)  If the fonts are there,
the install script does everything.

Do you (or anyone else) know how much overhead (if any) a bunch of fonts
have on the system (besides their storage space).  I ended up moving 330
ttf files from my win 95 disk.

Thanks again for your help!

Doug



Re: Installing XFSTT on HAMM

1998-08-17 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Thanks for the insight everyone!

I take it that the slink version doesn't require any library changes to work 
(like
some of the stuff post BO upgrade.  (I just upgraded last week so I have not
figured everything - or much of anything - out yet :).

I have always used the version of programs that are included in the current
release.  Can I use dselect to load/install the slink version?  I think I saw
something about dselect being replaced in slink...  Let me know if there is
anything special I need to do to install it.  Without any alternate directions, 
I
would use dselect to remove xfstt (hamm version) and them use dselect to find 
load the slink version.

more below

Stephen J. Carpenter wrote:

 On Sat, Aug 15, 1998 at 11:48:16PM -0400, Noel Yap wrote:
  The xfstt package that comes with hamm is very minimalistic in terms of
  documentation and user setup.

 yes it is...thats one of the main reasons I took over maintenance of it

  You might be better off installing the
  more up-to-date package in slink, which more-or-less takes care of
  everything for you.  Anyway, here's a brief description of what you need
  to do:
 
  1.  Put all your .ttf fonts into /var/ttfonts.

 I just want to note...that in the latest slink version This has changed
 (just a fore-warning)


So if I load the slink version do I need to do this or is the font directory
changed for this release.  I assume the .ttf files are binary so I will need to
transfer them as such.

  2.  Create an xfstt startup script in /etc/init.d and corresponding
  symlinks in /etc/rc?.d.

 make the script named xfstt the do
 update-rc.d xfstt defaults
 to make the sym links

  3.  Edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config so that it has 'FontPath unix/:7100'
  in Section Files.
 
  The hardest part is step 2, but the latest package in slink should take
  care of that for you.

 sigh yes...most of th emost recent bug reports were for that damned init.d
 scriptI have included the CURRENT init.d script below for any hamm users
 who want it...this is the on eused in slink

 NOTE you will need to change XF86Config to use the line
 Fontpath unix/:7101
 OR edit this script (port 7101 is PREFERED since it does NOT conflict with
 xfs )


So bottom line is I should:1. Load the slink package.
2. Copy my .ttf files to the font directory/var/ttfonts
3. Move the xfstt script below to my /etc/inet.d directory.
4. Edit my XF86Config file to include Fontpath unix/:7101 ... Do I need to
remove the other Font Stuff already in the file?

I will give this a try tonight when I get home.  Please let me know if I need to
do anything special I missed above.

Thanks for all of the help!

Doug



 -- /etc/init.d/xfstt 
 #!/bin/sh
 #
 # Start or stop xfstt
 # by Stephen Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 #
 # Tue,  7 Jul 1998 01:42:32 -0400

 XFSTT=/usr/X11R6/bin/xfstt

 # Change this to change the default port
 portno=7101

 test -x $XFSTT || exit 0

 case $1 in
 start)
 test -r /var/run/xfstt.pid  { echo xfstt already running 2 
 ex
 it 0 ; }
 echo -n Starting X TrueType Font Server: xfstt
 $XFSTT --port $portno 
 echo .
 ;;

 stop)
 test -r /var/run/xfstt.pid || { echo xfstt not running 2  exit
 0
  ; }
 echo -n Stopping X TrueType Font Server: xfstt
 kill `cat /var/run/xfstt.pid`
 echo .
 ;;

 force-reload|restart)
 $0 stop
 $XFSTT --sync
 $0 start
 ;;

 *)
 echo Usage: /etc/init.d/xfstt {start|stop|force-reload|restart} 2
 exit 1
 ;;
 esac

 exit 0

 end-

 -Steve

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CD doesn't work after upgrade.

1998-08-16 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello,

I have a recently upgraded 2.0 system (from an bo install).

Today I tried to mount a cd, but with no luck.  I tried:

# mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /cdrom
mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/scd0 as a block device
   (maybe `insmod driver'?)


I have also tried several other block devices that looked promising...

What is the correct command  .OR. what do I need to do to get my
CD working?

Thanks,

Doug


Installing XFSTT on HAMM

1998-08-15 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Ok, I give up! Soameone hid the docs and I can't find them!  :)

I have been trying to dig up information on installing XFSTT on my
upgraded HAMM system so my Netscape will look better.

I downloaded the relavent dpkgs and everything seemed in install
correctly.  I looked in the DOC's area and there isn't much in the way
of help to tell me what to do.

Does anyone know of a set of instructions on installing XFSTT that they
could send me?  My main (probably only) goal for using it is to make
Netscape easier to read on my little monitor.

I saw some stuff saying that I would need to move some TT fonts from my
Windoze systems to the Liinux, but I dodn't see anything that told me
exactly want to move and where to move it.

I did see some threads in the archives relating to versions of XFSTT.
Basically, have have a stock HAMM system that was upgraded from a
BO system.

Thanks,

Doug


Re: GCC lib troubles after HAMM upgrade

1998-08-10 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
That did the trick!

Thanks,

Doug

P.S: Just for future information...  Where would one find out that this was 
moved into
its own library?  I obviously didn't look in the right place.


Havoc Pennington wrote:

 On Sun, 9 Aug 1998, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:
 
  /home/src/interpreter.c:851: undefined reference to `crypt'
 

 I think crypt is in a separate library, so you need -lcrypt on the link
 line. No idea whether this changed between bo and hamm though.

 HTH,
 Havoc Pennington  http://pobox.com/~hp

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Re: What dist is vararg.h in?

1998-08-09 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Thats sys/varargs.h

Would varargs.h move between the two version of bo to hamm?  This is source code
to a mud that compiled fine under bo but now its having fits under hamm.  I was
expecting that all I would have to do is re-compile it without modifications.

Thanks for the info.

Doug

Gary L. Hennigan wrote:

 Doug Thistlethwaite [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 | Well, I bit the bullet and installed HAMM last night.  Everything went
 | pretty well with only a few error messages during the install.
 |
 | I have noticed that some of the include files I have been using in a C
 | project are now missing.
 |
 | One of them is sys/vararg.h  Which package is this in  what is the
 | best way for me to figure out where these things are in the future.

 Is that vararg.h or varargs.h? If you really are talking about
 vararg.h then you're probably out of luck. It doesn't seem to be on
 any of my Unix boxes, e.g., Linux, SGI IRIX6.2, SunOS 4.x.

 If you meant varargs.h then it is in the base gcc package, among
 others:

 % dpkg -S varargs.h

 gcc: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/include/varargs.h
 checker: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linuxchecker/2.7.2.3/include/varargs.h
 g++: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/egcs-2.90.29/include/varargs.h

 only it's not in sys.

 You should be aware that the use of varargs.h won't necessarily be
 portable because it's not ANSI. Instead you might want to look at
 stdarg.h (man stdarg) which is ANSI, and see if it suits your needs.

 Gary




GCC lib troubles after HAMM upgrade

1998-08-09 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello all,

Well, I seem to be having more problems then I expected after upgrading to
hamm.  This is probably someting simple except I can't seem to figure out where
to start looking.

I have a MUD which I have successfully compiled on my pre-upgraded bo system as
well as some redhat  erven other hamm systems!

I get the following message during the link phase:

/home/src/interpreter.c:851: undefined reference to `crypt'

(In several places)

The crypt function is defined in unistd.h  which I have included (thus no
compile time error).

Does this problem have something to do with the new libraries?  Anyone have an
ideas?  This code has compiled on other HAMM systems I have worked on...

Thanks,

Doug


Re: Changing number of colors of XServer

1998-08-09 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Thanks for the information,

How does the XServer know WHICH Screen section to use?  I notice that my file 
has
several sections labled like this.

Thanks,

Doug



(Ted Harding) wrote:

 On 08-Aug-98 Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:
  My XServer is currently configured to sue 256 colors. (8 bits).  I have
  noticed that when I start netscape I get messages telling me it can't 
  allocate
  a larger color map.  I figured that if I increased the number of colors, 
  this
  problem would go away.
 
  How do I change the number of colors on my display?

 In theory, you figure right. Netscape is colour-hungry and 256 colours is not
 enough if you have other colour-intensive applications running. (You can
 start netscape with the -install option to use a private colormap, but 
 this
 has other side-effects: try netscape -install  to see if you can live with
 it; if so, this is a fix for your immediate problem).

 Also in theory, changing the number of colours (colordepth) in X is
 straightforward. You can simply edit the appropriate part of /etc/XF86Config;
 all the necessary keywords are exemplified in the following:

   Section Screen
  Driver  Accel
  Device  Primary Card
  Monitor Primary Monitor
  DefaultColorDepth 32
  SubSection Display
 Depth8
 Modes1024x768 800x600 640x480
  EndSubSection
  SubSection Display
 Depth15
 Modes1024x768 800x600 640x480
  EndSubSection
  SubSection Display
 Depth16
 Modes1024x768 800x600 640x480
  EndSubSection
  SubSection Display
 Depth24
 Modes1024x768 800x600 640x480
  EndSubSection
  SubSection Display
 Depth32
 Modes1024x768 800x600 640x480
  EndSubSection
   EndSection

 Alternatively, run the utility which sets up X: most modern X-configurators
 offer the choice of colour depths and default depth.

 HOWEVER: In practice it gets more complicated, in that your video card has to
 be able to cope with the colour depth and resolution you request, and even if
 it can cope it may only do so if you also set certain special options in the
 card-specific XF86Config section. These options may depend not only on the
 generic card model but also on who manufactured it, i.e. different clones
 may require different setups. You have to experiment and read the card info in
 the XF86 documentation (look under /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Cards and
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc).

 That being said, the main factor is the Video RAM on the card. The rule is
 (Horizontal resolution)x(Vertical resolution)x(Bytes for colour depth) bytes
 of RAM _minimum_. (Bytes for colour depth) is, of course, 1 for 8bpp (256
 colours), 2 for 16bpp (65536 colours), and 3 for 24bpp. Paradoxically, 32bpp
 is often implemented as a packed 24bpp and may only need 3 bytes per pixel,
 i.e. you may be able to get 1280x1024x32bpp with a 4MB card, even though it
 looks as though you need 5MB.

 One complication here is that some cards insist on using half the video RAM as
 a frame buffer in which case you may not get what you might think you could
 get. Since X allows a larger Virtual screen than appears on the monitor, you
 should use the Virtual dimensions in the above calculation if relevant.

 The main symptom of a card not being able to cope with the colour depth you
 request is either a lot of fuzzy twinkling garbage, or else the screen image
 being broken up and variously wrapped round (horizontally and/or vertically).

 Hope this helps, and I hope it actually proves straightforward!
 Ted.

 
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 Date: 09-Aug-98   Time: 10:41:34
 

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What dist is vararg.h in?

1998-08-08 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello,

Well, I bit the bullet and installed HAMM last night.  Everything went
pretty well with only a few error messages during the install.

I have noticed that some of the include files I have been using in a C
project are now missing.  

One of them is sys/vararg.h  Which package is this in  what is the
best way for me to figure out where these things are in the future.  

Thanks,

Doug


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fvwm95 after hamm upgrade

1998-08-08 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello,

I upgraded my bo system to hamm last night.  Everything went pretty well, though
I did have the run the install portion of dselect several times for it to get
through without errors...

Anyhow - Everything seems to have installed fine.  But I have now noticed that
my windows manager fvwm95 does not seem to read my prior config file in my home
directory

The config info was in /home/doug/.fvwm2rc95 on my bo system and everything
seemed to work fine.

The first lines of my window-managers

/usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm95
/usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm2
...


What do I need to do so my windows manager will read my ini file?


Thanks,

Doug



Changing number of colors of XServer

1998-08-08 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
My XServer is currently configured to sue 256 colors. (8 bits).  I have noticed
that when I start netscape I get messages telling me it can't allocate a larger
color map.  I figured that if I increased the number of colors, this problem
would go away.

How do I change the number of colors on my display?

Thanks,

Doug


Changing shell

1998-08-07 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello,

What is the command that a user can use to change their default shells?  I did
it once long ago and have purged that part of my memory...

Thanks!

Doug


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Re: Changing shell

1998-08-07 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Thanks for the info  The chsh command was what I couldn't remember.

I was changing my shell on a system that I do not have root access on.  Its 
true that
I normally just edit the /etc/passwd file (on my system).  But I wouldn't want 
users
(or have to edit it for users) to use this method.

Thanks to everyone who replied!  I got my answer in about 5 minutes! :)

Doug

Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:

 Hello,

 What is the command that a user can use to change their default shells?  I did
 it once long ago and have purged that part of my memory...

 Thanks!

 Doug

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Re: Getting Samba working on BO

1998-07-21 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Thanks for the reply Mirek,

Mirek Kwasniak wrote:

 On Sun, Jul 19, 1998 at 10:30:59AM -0700, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:
 (...)
  How do I get Samba working on my BO system.  I used dselect to download and
  install it.  I have looked through the files but I have not seen anything 
  with
  debian specific information in it.  I have a win95 system on the same 
  network
  and it does not seem to see the debian system.  Is there a file telling me 
  who
  extra steps need to be done to enable it?

 Read in /usr/doc/samba: DIAGNOSIS.txt.gz, BROWSING.txt.gz.
 M$ protocol is quite good :(


I will look into the docs tonight.  I am not sure what you mean by M$ protocol 
os
quite good :(

 I run samba for two years and haven't too much problems.
 Are W95 in the same group?
 Set up samba serwer as wins server and point W95 to it.
 Maybe you have W95 with sercurity upgrade than read
 /usr/doc/samba/Win95.txt.

 Mirek

What I have done is:

1. Load the Samba using dselect and rebooted the computer.  I have looked in the
smb.conf file and the default values look reasonable to me.

2. Tried my windows 95 system and selected network neighborhood.

I am sure there is something else I am suppose to do.  I just don't know what.

Thanks,

Doug


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Getting Samba working on BO

1998-07-19 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello,

This is probably a stupid question, but I guess I'll ask it anyways.

How do I get Samba working on my BO system.  I used dselect to download and
install it.  I have looked through the files but I have not seen anything with
debian specific information in it.  I have a win95 system on the same network
and it does not seem to see the debian system.  Is there a file telling me who
extra steps need to be done to enable it?

Thanks,

Doug


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Advice on a new system

1998-07-09 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello everyone,

I am going to help one of the engineers at my company to build a personal
system.  He has expressed interest in learning about linux and would like to
have a system that will dual boot in both windows 98 and linux.  I have read
several messages on this list talking about problems with windoze messing with
linux partitions.  We are planning to assemble the PC from parts so we can
purchase specific items if needed.

The current plans are for a K6-II 300MHz system with fast wide SCSI disks.  I am
thinking of installing two drives (one for linux and the other for windoze).  I
would like to make this system very easy for the engineer to boot into either
OS.

My questions are:

1. What procedure and order should I follow in installing the two OS'es.

2. Recommendations on FW SCSI adapters?

3. We are going to want to add a CD-R drive to this system.  Should we look for
a SCSI device or use the on-board IDE interface?  Does the operation of IDE
devices compromise the access speed of SCSI devices?

Thanks!

Doug


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Re: Building Kernel for Sound

1998-06-07 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Ok, I removed the .config file and ran make menuconfig... This worked fine

I ran make-kpkg and got the following error:

s.o ipc/ipc.o net/network.a \
fs/filesystems.a \
drivers/block/block.a drivers/char/char.a drivers/net/net.a 
drivers/pci/pci.a \

/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.33/arch/i386/lib/lib.a
/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.33/lib/lib.a
/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.33/arch/i386/lib/lib.a -o vmlinux
fs/filesystems.a(fat.o): In function `fat_readdirx':
fat.o(.text+0xf85): undefined reference to `utf8_wcstombs'
fs/filesystems.a(fat.o): In function `fat_put_super':
fat.o(.text+0x204b): undefined reference to `unload_nls'
fat.o(.text+0x2068): undefined reference to `unload_nls'
fs/filesystems.a(fat.o): In function `fat_read_super':
fat.o(.text+0x2f23): undefined reference to `load_nls'
fat.o(.text+0x2f47): undefined reference to `load_nls_default'
fat.o(.text+0x2f70): undefined reference to `load_nls'
fat.o(.text+0x2f94): undefined reference to `unload_nls'
fat.o(.text+0x2fa9): undefined reference to `load_nls_default'
fat.o(.text+0x2fd8): undefined reference to `unload_nls'
fat.o(.text+0x2fe8): undefined reference to `unload_nls'
make[1]: *** [vmlinux] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.33'
make: *** [all] Error 2

Any ideas?  In the menuconfig I used the default .config and added soundblaster 
sound
only.

A second totally unrelated question...  In my shells, If I hit the BS or Delete 
key, it
deletes the character to the left of the cursor... Not ideal, but not to bad.  
In
netscape writing mail, the delete and backspace key deletes the character 
before the
cursor...  Anyone else seen this?  If so, what is the fix?

Doug

Nielsen wrote:

 On Sat, 6 Jun 1998, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:

  Ok, I have the right package now.
 
  I looked at the make-kpkg man file and its a lot more complicated then I 
  had hoped
  :)
 
  I ran make-kpkg and it just made the files again as I had before.
 
  I probably changed a ton of things in the .config file while I was messing 
  things
  up with the stuff I was doing before.
 
  What is the easiest way for me to take the kernel I am currently using (the
  default one) and add the soundblaster support. Or if there isn't an easy 
  way, what
  order of steps should I use to make a kernel?

 If the configuration is messed up, delete .config and run 'make
 menuconfig' and it will start with the default set.

 
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Re: Building Kernel for Sound

1998-06-07 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Ed Cogburn wrote:

 Doug Thistlethwaite wrote:
 
  Ok, I removed the .config file and ran make menuconfig... This worked fine
 
  I ran make-kpkg and got the following error:
 
  s.o ipc/ipc.o net/network.a \
  fs/filesystems.a \
  drivers/block/block.a drivers/char/char.a drivers/net/net.a 
  drivers/pci/pci.a \
 
  /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.33/arch/i386/lib/lib.a
  /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.33/lib/lib.a
  /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.33/arch/i386/lib/lib.a -o vmlinux
  fs/filesystems.a(fat.o): In function `fat_readdirx':
  fat.o(.text+0xf85): undefined reference to `utf8_wcstombs'
  fs/filesystems.a(fat.o): In function `fat_put_super':
  fat.o(.text+0x204b): undefined reference to `unload_nls'
  fat.o(.text+0x2068): undefined reference to `unload_nls'
  fs/filesystems.a(fat.o): In function `fat_read_super':
  fat.o(.text+0x2f23): undefined reference to `load_nls'
  fat.o(.text+0x2f47): undefined reference to `load_nls_default'
  fat.o(.text+0x2f70): undefined reference to `load_nls'
  fat.o(.text+0x2f94): undefined reference to `unload_nls'
  fat.o(.text+0x2fa9): undefined reference to `load_nls_default'
  fat.o(.text+0x2fd8): undefined reference to `unload_nls'
  fat.o(.text+0x2fe8): undefined reference to `unload_nls'
  make[1]: *** [vmlinux] Error 1
  make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.33'
  make: *** [all] Error 2
 
  Any ideas?  In the menuconfig I used the default .config and added 
  soundblaster sound
  only.

 Do you have Native Language Support turned on in the kernel config?


Not intentionally, Like I said, I was trying to get any kernel to compile so I 
started with
the default (by removing the .config file) and running menuconfig.  The only 
box I checked
was the soundblaster comp device.  Should I turn the native language support 
off?  I didn't
see anything like that when I was snooping around menuconfig.



 
  A second totally unrelated question...  In my shells, If I hit the BS or 
  Delete key, it
  deletes the character to the left of the cursor... Not ideal, but not to 
  bad.  In
  netscape writing mail, the delete and backspace key deletes the character 
  before the
  cursor...  Anyone else seen this?  If so, what is the fix?
 
  Doug
 

 This is a legacy of Linux's early history (IIRC, it had somthing to 
 do with
 the type of keyboard Linus was using when he originally wrote Linux).  The
 long answer is see http://www.ibbnet.nl/~anne/keyboard.html;.  The short
 answer is to use readline's inputrc config to control BS/Delete behavior at
 the bash shell command line.  Use Netscape resources (in Xresources) to
 control BS/Delete behavior in Netscape (see the Netscape.ad file in
 Netscape's dir).


Thanks for the info.  My keyboard in netscape seems to be working fine... I 
have no idea why
sense I didn't change anything yet...

Ah, computers!

Doug

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Building Kernel for Sound

1998-06-06 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello,

I have a soundblaster card I wanted to get working under my bo system.
My system is currently running 2.0.33 so I downloaded the source so I
could make a version with the sound blaster support.

Here is what I did

1. make menuconfig - go through list and remove all the stuff that
sounds like I don't need it.

2. make dep

3. make clean

4. make zImage - This errors out because of the kernel size.

5. make gzImage - Readme file says to do this if above didn't work

6. make modules
7. make modules_install
8. copy new kernel to /boot and make symbolic link to /linuz
9. run sbin/lilo - This errors out saying the kernel is to big!

The kernel size is about 1.4M where the one I downloaded during my
initial install is only ~600K.  Why is mine so much bigger? The last try
I gutted everything that didn't seem to be required...  Am I doing
anything wrong in my process above?

Thanks,

Doug


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Re: Building Kernel for Sound

1998-06-06 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Thanks for the input George,

I have looked all through the bo archive (using dselect) for a package called
make-kpkg.  I do not see one on my mirror by that name.

Doug

G Kapetanios wrote:

 Try the make-kpkg package.
 Then make menuconfig
 make-kpkg --revision (version nunber) buildpackage  in /usr/src/linux
 and dpkg -i kernel-imagedeb
 and you are done
 It is much simpler than the standard procedure
 George

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Re: Building Kernel for Sound

1998-06-06 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Ok, I have the right package now.

I looked at the make-kpkg man file and its a lot more complicated then I had 
hoped
:)

I ran make-kpkg and it just made the files again as I had before.

I probably changed a ton of things in the .config file while I was messing 
things
up with the stuff I was doing before.

What is the easiest way for me to take the kernel I am currently using (the
default one) and add the soundblaster support. Or if there isn't an easy way, 
what
order of steps should I use to make a kernel?


thanks again!

Doug





G. Kapetanios wrote:

 Try the make-kpkg package.
 Then make menuconfig
 make-kpkg --revision (version nunber) buildpackage  in /usr/src/linux
 and dpkg -i kernel-imagedeb
 and you are done
 It is much simpler than the standard procedure
 George

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Re: jdk1.1-runtime

1998-06-02 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
I downloaded the files listed below into my system and unpacked them using
dpkg -i XX.deb

Everything seems to install fine.  I moved a simple class I have been working on
over to the system and got the following error:

$ jre -cp /home/doug/java dens
SIGSEGV   11*  segmentation violation

Full thread dump:
Killed

I received the same error trying to run one of the demos also.

Any ideas?

Thanks again for your help!

Doug

Daniel Martin at cush wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

 I managed to find the old jdk 1.1.3v2 .debs which can be installed on
 bo (libc5 systems).

 I've put them into my public_html directory on master.debian.org -
 note that although I am a debian maintainer, I do not maintain nor
 never have maintened the jdk packages.

 md5sums:
 c875ec46c914747fd24d0e4e034c8101  jdk1.1-dev_1.1.3.v2-1.deb
 e0cb8617175008fc6a09ccfbc0c52840  jdk1.1-docdemo_1.1.3.v2-1.deb
 630b752a48d7842b53dce47cb7a9920a  jdk1.1-runtime_1.1.3.v2-1.deb

 Each of these are available via http:
 http://master.debian.org/~fizbin/jdk1.1-dev_1.1.3.v2-1.deb
 http://master.debian.org/~fizbin/jdk1.1-docdemo_1.1.3.v2-1.deb
 http://master.debian.org/~fizbin/jdk1.1-runtime_1.1.3.v2-1.deb

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Interbase on Debian

1998-05-29 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello all,

I just saw a post that lead me to a ZDNet article on Linux.  One thing
of interest for me was the linux version of interbase that is available
for redhat.  Has anyone installed this on a debian system?  If so, what
configuration / version of debian is needed.

Doug


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Re: Installing X-Windows?

1998-05-27 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
I just finished installing my X on a new system.  I assume you are using the
1.3 release of linux (bo).  I used dselect to install the system.  It took me 3
tries to get it right (I'm new to using the Debian so maybe I'm doing something
wrong... but it seemed that if you just pick all of the packages you want at
once, the install in the wrong order and give you strange error messages.  What
seemed to work best was.

#1
Dig up everything you know about your monitor and video card.  (Horz  Vert Scan
freq. of monitor, video card mfg, type, chipset,...)  I ended up looking on the
web for the monitor mfg and printing out the specs for the monitor.  As for the
video card, I looked at it physically and wrote down all of the numbers printer
on the board.  These turned out to be helpful when asked what chipset it was
using.

#2
Select the base package and a server using dselect (I don't have my system here
so you will have to look up the exact names in the descriptions).  There are
several choices of servers that will depend on your video card.  I chose the 
S3
accelerated server because of the card I had.  Install there packages (and any
required dependencies if dselect flags them).

#3
Go back and select the fonts, manuals, window managers, etc. that you want to
use.  I found that if I tried to install the window manager at the same time as
the base pkg, the WM loaded first and didn't find the required files from the
base pkg.  I'm sure that this can be solved by changing the order of the dselect
loading, but I found it easier to just run select twice.

#4
You will need to run the config script for your server.  (Its called XF86Setup I
think)  It creates the XF86Config file that tells your server what to do.  It
will ask you a ton of questions that have to do with your video card, monitor,
mouse, ...

Well, I hope this helps...  I'm pretty new at all of this, but the above worked
for me!

Doug


Ben Szyc wrote:

 I've just recently started using Debian and thought it's bout time I
 installed X-Windows but I don't have much idea where to start. Can
 someone please help me in detail if possible???
 thanx in advance
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Re: XDM autostart question

1998-05-26 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite


David A. Bandel wrote:

 Bonard B. Timmons III wrote:
 
  Doug Thistlethwaite [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   Thanks for the tip.  My /etc/X11/config files ihas the following two
   lines in it...
  
   xdm-start-server
   start-xdm
  
   My guess is that the problem is in a system init file somewhere.  Any
   idea what file calls the xdm stuff at boot time?
  
  As root, try this:
 
  /etc/init.d/xdm start
 
  The /etc/init.d/xdm can be checked for any irregularities or hints.
 
  Bake
 
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 I had the same trouble some time back.  Take a look at /etc/init.d/xdm.
 Mine was 0 bytes and xdm.dpkg-new hadn't properly replaced it.


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I will check this out tonight.  If this is the case, how do I replaced it with 
the
xdm.dpkg-new file?  can I just rename/move it, or does it need to be processed 
in
some way?

Thanks,

Doug


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Re: XDM autostart question

1998-05-25 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Bonard B. Timmons III wrote:
 
 Doug Thistlethwaite [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Quick question I hope...
 
  How do I get XDM to autostart.  I selected to not have it autostart
  during install because I was having problems with X11 in general.
 
 Please read /usr/doc/X11/README.Debian. It will tell you about what to
 edit in the /etc/X11/config file in order to make xdm autostart.
 
 In short, it looks like all you have to do is make sure that
 
 start-xdm
 
 is in there rather than
 
 no-start-xdm
 
 Bake


Thanks for the tip.  My /etc/X11/config files ihas the following two
lines in it...

xdm-start-server
start-xdm

My guess is that the problem is in a system init file somewhere.  Any
idea what file calls the xdm stuff at boot time?


Thanks,

Doug


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XDM autostart question

1998-05-23 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Quick question I hope...

How do I get XDM to autostart.  I selected to not have it autostart
during install because I was having problems with X11 in general.


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SB16 install configure

1998-05-23 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
How do I enable my SB16 card?  I did not see a option during the base
install.  I have seen AWE32 stuff, but I don't think that is the same
thing.

Where  how do I setup my card?

Thanks a ton,

Doug


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X11 HELP!

1998-05-22 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello  help!

I hope someone can help me with this problem that is getting worse and
worse...

I tired to install fvwm95 and all I got was a plain login screen that
would log into a plain window with a single xterm.  I tried to remvoe
the window manager and install another using dserver... Now I CAN NOT
LOGIN to the computer at all from the console.  When I log in I get a
colorful flash and another plain login screen.  The only way I can
connect to the computer is via a telnet.

How do I disable the X11 so I can get my console back?  Also any tips on
getting a WM working would be greatly appriciated!  I should have a
pretty much generic installation, so I'm somewhat confused to why I am
having all of this trouble.

Thanks,

Doug


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Re: X11 S3 installation

1998-05-21 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
 ... the docs you will need for x are in /usr/doc/x11...

I was not able to find the exact docs you were talking about, but I did
find the program that creates XF86Config and X11 seems to work
somewhat...  Boy that script asked me some questions I had to dig pretty
deep to figure out!

 ... I like fvwm95 to be the manager of choice...

I downloaded and installed fvwm95 and installed it using dserver.  It
did not change the appearance of the window manager very much.  I did
find a INSTALL readme file that talked about copying files to a source
directory and compiling them...  Is this required, or was that something
left over from a generic unix/linux install distribution?  Can you point
me in the direction of where I need to look to get the fvwm95 working?

What WM is the easiest to install / configure?

My X11 wm currently creates an xterm when it starts.  Once placed on the
screen, it does not let me resize or move it.  Is this normal?

What is the proper way to shutdown the X11 system when I want to work on
my system from the console?  I have been changing the init level to 1
to get out of X11, but there must be a better way then this!

Thanks!

Doug


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FYI: Netscape 3.01 archive

1998-05-21 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
I installed Netscape 3.01 last night, and it seems to be working fine.
I did have a hard time finding the correct version to download from the
Netscape servers.

Netscape has moved the old versions of their software to:
archive.netscape.com

It also appears that this site will not accept anonymous ftp access (I
tried 4-5 times before I gave up).  I ended up having to connect using a
win95 system / netscape and I downloaded the linux file using http.  If
this is the only way of getting the file, it will be a real pain for new
users who do not have other system to fall back on.

I am posting this mainly because I saw some questions about installing
netscape floating about in the last few days.

Doug


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Re: Install Questions

1998-05-20 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite


Jaakko Niemi wrote:

   I tried to send this about 5 minutes ago and my system locked up...
  If it made it, sorry for the duplication ***
 
 
  Hello there,
 
  I just setup my linux system last night and finished the generic
  install.  I have a few questions on things that didn't work as I
  expected.  I hope this is the right place to ask.
 
 
  Ok, my system is a pent 166 w/32MB RAM and two hard drives I found
  laying around (1.6GB, 2.0GB).
 
  I created a root partition of 60MB,
  /usr of 1000MB
  /var 360MB
  /home 1915MB
 
  I hope this is about correct.
 
  Anyways, My two questions / problems are:
 
  #1 I was not able to install my CD drive.  I have a Wearnes 8X CD drive
  (IDE connection and a cheap sound card.)  I found one selection on the
  driver disk for Wearnes and some other drives, but it failed on
  installation.  I did not type in any parameters because I didn't know
  what it wanted.

  You don't need any special drivers for IDE cd-roms. If you have the cd
  in the sound-cards ide-channel, it's propably more easy to move it to
  either primary or secondary channel. Then just point the installation to cd,
  just like hard disk .. /dev/hdc for master on secondary and so on...

 --j

  Thanks for the tip.  I ordered the CD a couple of weeks ago, but it has not
arrived yet.  I went ahead and downloaded the stuff from the FTP sites.  I have
noticed that the LED on the CD is on alot of the time.  I'm not sure if this is 
a
problem.

Can I read non-linux CD's just to test its operation?  If so, how would I go
about verifying the CD operation?

Thanks for your help!

Doug


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S3 video installation.

1998-05-20 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello all,

I am working on my second attempt in installing Debian on my PC.  (The
first try died when I deselected a whole bunch of packages and had
dselect delete them... oops :)

I have a Pent 166 32MB system with a Diamond Stealth 64 (S3 trio64) dram
version display card.  This system has been installed off of floppies
and I have used dselect to load all of the required  suggested
packages onto my system (via FTP).  I have two basic questions on what I
need to do next:

1: Currently I have a 80 col x 24 line generic display (I would guess).
Is there a way to have a smaller font and more columns?  I have not done
anything to tell the system what type of video card I have.


2: What do I need to do to get X11 up and running on my system?  Was it
installed with the base system, or do I need to load optional packages?
I did find and load a S3 trio64 X11 server.

Are there any docs on setting up  configuring X11?

Finally, I know there are several windows managers around.  Which one
seems to be in use the most on these types of systems?

Thank you,

Doug


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Install Questions

1998-05-19 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Hello there,

I just setup my linux system last night and finished the generic
install.  I have a few questions on things that didn't work as I
expected.  I hope this is the right place to ask.


Ok, my system is a pent 166 w/32MB RAM and two hard drives I found
laying around (1.6GB, 2.0GB).

I created a root partition of 60MB,
/usr of 1000MB
/var 360MB
/home 1915MB

I hope this is about correct.

Anyways, My two questions / problems are:

#1 I was not able to install my CD drive.  I have a Wearnes 8X CD drive
(IDE connection and a cheap sound card.)  I found one selection on the
driver disk for Wearnes and some other drives, but it failed on
installation.  I did not type in any parameters because I didn't know
what it wanted.

#2 I tried to use the FTP option in dselect and it comes up with the
following error message:

Net::FTP: Bad peer address at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.pm line 405
FTP ERROR

I was able to connect to ftp.debian.org via ftp from the shell.  Any
idea what is wrong with this?  Ideally, I would like to get this working
using the ftp option.  If I can't, what is the proper method of loading
and installing packages.

Thanks,

Doug Thistlethwaite


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Install Questionj

1998-05-19 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
 I tried to send this about 5 minutes ago and my system locked up...
If it made it, sorry for the duplication ***


Hello there,

I just setup my linux system last night and finished the generic
install.  I have a few questions on things that didn't work as I
expected.  I hope this is the right place to ask.


Ok, my system is a pent 166 w/32MB RAM and two hard drives I found
laying around (1.6GB, 2.0GB).

I created a root partition of 60MB,
/usr of 1000MB
/var 360MB
/home 1915MB

I hope this is about correct.

Anyways, My two questions / problems are:

#1 I was not able to install my CD drive.  I have a Wearnes 8X CD drive
(IDE connection and a cheap sound card.)  I found one selection on the
driver disk for Wearnes and some other drives, but it failed on
installation.  I did not type in any parameters because I didn't know
what it wanted.

#2 I tried to use the FTP option in dselect and it comes up with the
following error message:

Net::FTP: Bad peer address at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.pm line 405
FTP ERROR

I was able to connect to ftp.debian.org via ftp from the shell.  Any
idea what is wrong with this?  Ideally, I would like to get this working

using the ftp option.  If I can't, what is the proper method of loading
and installing packages.

Thanks,

Doug Thistlethwaite




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Serial Mouse Install

1998-05-19 Thread Doug Thistlethwaite
Here is another installation question I didn't figure out during the
install.  I have a microsoft compatible serial mouse I would like to use
on my new linux system.  During the inital install, I did not see any
selections for serial mice.  I saw several options for ps/2, bus, and
other types of mice.  What do I need to do to install this mouse?

Thank you,

Doug Thistlethwaite


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