Re: Man -K
On Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 01:54:42PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Piotr Krukowiecki wrote: I wonder why debian have man without -K option (searching through body of manpage, not only title), unlike RH or Suse RedHat uses a different program. But Suse uses the same man as Debian. Are you sure that Suse has the -L option? (I don't know how to get the hands on a suse machine). fab -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | pgp: 6F7267F5 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E | [EMAIL PROTECTED] gsm: +358 (0)40 707 2468
Re: man -- info?
On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 10:06:33AM -0500, Gregory Guthrie wrote: At 05:19 PM 05/17/2000 +0300, Fabrizio Polacco wrote: On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 06:50:43AM -0500, Gregory Guthrie wrote: Why are man pages abandoned for info? Only FSF do that. Debian _requires_ manpages for all. -- but many man pages say not maintained, use info. so it is not just formatting them, but getting the relevant info. BUGS The GNU folks, in general, abhor man pages, and create info documents instead. info docs are guides, while manpages are pages of the reference manual. Both type of docs are needed, as they serve different purposes, but only the reference is required. That attitude, to abhor reference manuals in favor of on-line guides, is like pretending to conversate only with persons with the same level of knowledge as you. The maintainer of tar falls into this category. This man page is neither complete, nor current, and was included in the Debian Linux packaging of tar entirely to reduce the frequency with which the lack of a man page gets reported as a bug in our defect track ing system. I would report this as a bug in mentality. The sentence above do not explains if the maintainer which falls in this category is the upstream maintainer or the Debian one. In the second case I would seriously object to his adherence to the spirit of the distribution. If you really want to understand tar, then you should run info and read the tar info pages, or use the info mode in emacs. Which goes back to the real problem. I, for instance, have always big problem because _any_ upgrade wants absolutely to install emacs. This hurt me so many times that I was sometimes tempted to launch a project to de-GNUify Debian, not in the anti-Freeness: in fact I'm trying hardly to assign man-db copyright to the FSF, but in the non-emacs/lisp/texinfo rebellion! I want FSF to spouse vi. But then I realize how childish it would seem, and I forget about it. Until the next upgrade :-) Going back to the problem above, the very right solution is to write the corret manpage and submit it as a patch to the debian maintainer. If he refuses, raise the problem on debian-devel, and ask for NMU. Now they do not have an excuse any-more. FSF has added a info2man program that extract the manpage from the texinfo source! I think it's a duty of the debian maintainer to keep his packages in-line with the policy. It can be boring sometimes, as with email packages where the debian maintainer has to introduce changes to the sources to comply with the debian policy about locks, or with lib packages, where the debian maintainer has to reorganize the way the lib is built to comply with the debian requirement of shipping several and different types of the same library. It's part of the job. Nobody is forced to do it, but if you want to do it, you have to follow these rules. fab -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | pgp: 6F7267F5 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E | [EMAIL PROTECTED] gsm: +358 (0)40 707 2468
Re: man -- info?
On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 06:50:43AM -0500, Gregory Guthrie wrote: Why are man pages abandoned for info? Only FSF do that. Debian _requires_ manpages for all. Info requires emacs knowledge to navigate, and are text only. Man at least has xman viewer. ever tryed man -X page ?? if it's too little, try man -TX100 page Is there any option? Have man pages been html'ed for Debian? I have seen some INternet sites with man pages online.. Newer groff has a html device which will improve in next version 1.16, not yet released. man -Thtml page will produce it already. redirect it to a file and read that page from your preferred browser. man source has a not-yet-enabled option -H that does that. Things are moving. Do you wanna help? fab -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | pgp: 6F7267F5 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E | [EMAIL PROTECTED] gsm: +358 (0)40 707 2468
Re: dip obsolete in potato?
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 10:24:51AM -0700, Gary Hennigan wrote: While it may seem unbelievable to some, one of our dialup servers at work still requires SLIP, as opposed to PPP. So I was a bit disturbed to see that the dip package disappeared from potato upon my latest apt-get upgrade. But the package wasn't removed from you rmachine, I hope. You can still use the package in slink. I've been using dip for many years now and haven't had to touch it in years. Perhaps something replaced it in those years and I didn't notice it? Anyone else use dip, or is anyone else still stuck using SLIP and doing so without dip? If so I'd like to hear about your solution. You can still use slattach in netbase. fab -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | pgp: 6F7267F5 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E | [EMAIL PROTECTED] gsm: +358 (0)40 707 2468
Need help: how to set up an irc proxy?
HI, I need to set up an IRC proxy to go around firewall limitation. On various irc sites I wasn't able to find any info. Can anybody help me, maybe just pointing to TFM? Thanx, fab -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E | [EMAIL PROTECTED] gsm: +358 (0)40 707 2468
Re: man -k doesn't work
On Tue, Jan 04, 2000 at 01:04:49PM -0500, Brian J. Stults wrote: Hi, When I type man -k [anything], I always get this result: [anything]: nothing appropriate and when you try man [anything] what do you get? If you get a manpage then it is the db to be rebuilt (mandb -c from root), if you get No manual entry for [anything] then [anything] is really not appropriate :-) It doesn't matter what I substitite for anything. I have the environment variable MANPATH set like this in .bash_profile: MANPATH=/usr/bin/man:/usr/man:/usr/share/man:/usr/X11R6/man:/usr/local/man It is always better to leave that env var unset, unless you have very specific stuff to add there. In any case, /usr/bin/man cannot go there! Use the command manpath to see if this setting is harming you; it should reply: /usr/local/man:/usr/share/man:/usr/X11R6/man:/usr/man cheers, fab -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E | [EMAIL PROTECTED] gsm: +358 (0)40 707 2468
[Pablo.Medrano@abaconet.com.ar: about groff in spanish...]
Hi,
can someone help this guy?
I don't have any answer for him.
thanx,
fab
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Subject: about groff in spanish...
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:19:14 -0300
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Hello,
My name is Pablo Medrano,
I am from Argentina and I speak little English.
I need to find (or to locate), some handbook of Groff in Spanish
There can you help me?
I want to learn the use from this program, because I need to make
some projects in Spanish for my students
(introduction to Linux - quickly help).
My students have between 8 and 12 years old .
I desire that you could understand me because I speak English like
Tarzan... {{8-)
Thank You very much...
Pablo Medrano
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Re: Man page problem: all hypens(-) are being replaced by AD
On Sun, Oct 10, 1999 at 09:02:17PM -0400, Rob Mahurin wrote: On Sun, Oct 10, 1999 at 06:59:29PM -0500, Brian Servis wrote: Hi all, Recently I all my hypens(-) in my man pages have started to show up as a highligted AD and not hypens. What would be causing this? The relevant package versions are listed below. This is hybrid slink system with lots of package compiled from potato sources. man-db 2.3.10-69n groff 1.11a-7 Perhaps you might try setting the LESSCHARSET environment variable, or the parallel for whatever pager you're using. Mine is latin1. LESSCHARSET is set inside man program. This was a bug (#46628) in version 69n . Fixed in -69p . Just apt-get it! thanx, fab -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E | [EMAIL PROTECTED] gsm: +358 (0)40 707 2468
Re: DHCP and debian
On Tue, May 25, 1999 at 08:20:42PM -0500, EXT Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: I believe there is a limitation with the 2.0.X kernel which prevents dhcp from working if you have more than one ethernet card. There may be a work-around (other than upgrading your kernel and everything else) but I don't know what it might be. I'd search around on deja.com. I also have this problem on a machine with two interfaces, and I simply start dhcp by hand from root, when I turn on the box: # /etc/init.d/dhcpc start In a few seconds it grabs the IP address. Issue /sbin/ifconfig to see that. fab -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E | [EMAIL PROTECTED] gsm: +358 (0)40 707 2468
Compaq Prosigna 500
Hi all, anybody has a Compaq Prosigna 500, and can tell me what type of network card is there? I've tryed to install an empty one, but I cannot make the network. Any hint? thanx, fab -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E | [EMAIL PROTECTED] gsm: +358 40 707 2468
left hand mouse in X
Hi, is there anybody who can tell me how to invert the buttons of the mouse under X? I have found it for gpm, but I couldn't find mention in the X manuals. thanx, fab -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E | [EMAIL PROTECTED] gsm: +358 40 707 2468
dpkg port to HP-UX
[please reply to me or to debian-devel, as I am subscribed only to it] Hi everybody, If I remember well, some time ago someone posted his results on a port of dpkg to HP-UX. Now I have to evaluate packaging systems for that platform, and I would like to push a Free solution, a debian one specifically (because it's the best :-). If someone has hints or examples, please contact me, as it would help me greatly if I can present real cases and/or working code. Thank you, fab -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E | [EMAIL PROTECTED] gsm: +358 40 707 2468
Re: Man problems
On 7 Jan, XRD Lab wrote: How do I update the database ... man -u (mandb should anyway run weekly at 6 am), but your problem 1) is related to your solution to 2). 2. I recently installed MuPAD. To access its manuals, I added the following line to /etc/profile MANPATH=$MANPATH:/usr/local/MuPAD/share/man But this somehow removes the usual man directories from the search path. How do I add new directories to the MANPATH without trashing the earlier ones in my own .bash_profile? In /etc/manpath.config just add the row: MANDATORY_MANPATH /usr/local/MuPAD/share/man and remove what you added in /etc/profile. This should solve also problem 1) Fabrizio -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | Pluto Leader - Debian Developer Happy Debian 1.3.1 User - vi-holic | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E more than 35 months are needed to get rid of the millennium. [me] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Making a debian CD
Craig Sanders wrote: On Mon, 15 Dec 1997, Nathan E Norman wrote: : export MANOPT=-Pless Is there an advantage to this way, as opposed to setting PAGER to /usr/bin/less ? no, not really. i do this only because if i set PAGER, then elm will use $PAGER instead of it's built-in viewer. since i don't use elm anymore, i should break the habit i suppose :-) If you are running hamm, now less installs /usr/bin/pager using update-alternatives (as more and most) and man uses /usr/bin/pager as default. Just unset $PAGER as well as MANOPT. fabrizio -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | Pluto Leader - Debian Developer Happy Debian 1.3.1 User - vi-holic | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: allow mount to normal user
Remco Blaakmeer wrote: Yes, but there is more to this. The disk, floppy and cdrom devices (I mean the /dev/* files for them) have permissions 0660 on a default Debian system, so that normal users can't access them. The solution to this is _not_ to make the permissions 0666, but to make the user a member of the group that owns the device, i.e. Why? Command mount is setuid root and after mount you don't need to access the /dev file that is already mounted elsewhere on the filesystem. fabrizio -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | Pluto Leader - Debian Developer Happy Debian 1.3.1 User - vi-holic | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: KDE team doesn't like Debian dist.?
E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote: Indeed. I never quite understood this strategy of putting things under /opt. Once I had problems on a SUN because the system couldn't handle the length of the PATH an MANPATH variables anymore: every package gets its own bin, lib and man directory. We should never indulge in letting this plague enter the debian file system structure. What a nightmare! Things in /opt should be installed in /opt/bin, /opt/lib, /opt/man, ecc. using symlinks and/or wrappers. Well done upstream packages which use /opt should carry an utility to install symlinks and wrappers in /opt/* or /usr/local/* at wish. The /opt idea is to isolate upstream packages from peculiarities of different OSes, not to pollute users' namespace. Check the FHS-2.0 Fabrizio -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | Pluto Leader - Debian Developer Happy Debian 1.3.1 User - vi-holic | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mount /floppy
Timothy Phan wrote: What do I suppose to put in the /etc/fstab so that any user can mount the floppy disk with just 'mount /floppy' and all user can access it. I have in my /etc/fstab : /dev/fd0/amsdos user,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd0/fd ext2user,noauto 0 0 You have also do mkdir /a /fd or any other name you like (like /a: ). Then a user mount /a if the diskette is in dos format, or /fd if its in linux format. I know there is also an automatic way to detect the disk format, check the docs (I rarely use the floppy :-). Fabrizio -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | Pluto Leader - Debian Developer Happy Debian 1.3.1 User - vi-holic | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How to use dpkg -b ??
Debian List wrote: Ok I tried the dpkg-source -x and here's the error I got: dpkg-source: error: tarfile `./mgetty_1.1.8.orig.tar.gz' contains object (mgetty-1.1.8/README.1st) not in expected directory (mgetty-1.1.8.orig) This version of mgetty is in hamm, which needs an upgraded dpkg to unpack correctly (it's in project/experimental, AFAIK). At this point you're anyway at half way; just do: cd mgetty-1.1.8 zcat ../mgetty_1.1.8*diff.gz | patch -p0 - and you're done (maybe with some old file as file.orig) dpkg-buildpackage will automagically generate a diff from the original package source. If I make changes to the original source, wouldn't that invalidate the diff file? Yes, it will overwrite the files with the old version number. You have to change the version number (first line in file debian/changelog). If you have debmake installed simply issue dch -n and you'll be editing that file _after_ the version change. Exit the editor saving the changes and issue dpkg-buildpackage or its wrapper build -rsudo (you need privileges to do build a package) pgp is needed only to sign the changes and dsc files. .deb will be OK even if you'll have an error for pgp. You'll see on the output: dpkg --build debian/tmp .. dpkg-deb: building package `mgetty' in `../mgetty_1.1.8-?_i386.deb'. fabrizio -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | Pluto Leader - Debian Developer Happy Debian 1.3.1 User - vi-holic | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E Just because Red Hat do it doesn't mean it's a good idea. [Ian J.] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: More newbie setup stuff...
Daniel Martin wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Andrew Akins wrote: Checking for languages ... de_DECan't locate Getopt/Long.pm in @INC at /usr/sbin/chmanconfig line 38. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/chmanconfig line 38. Any idea what this means? Any suggestions? install perl package before. By the way - in looking into this, I tried to discover just what the base perl installation _does_ have - unlike elvis-tiny, there doesn't seem to be a package perl-tiny or whatnot that contains this little perl. Before bo there used to be a package of perl marked essential (and therefore not removable). AFAIK there will be one also in hamm. I don't know for what reasons this perl package wasn't build as essential in bo. This make possible for someone to see this error. I have not yet understood what path is needed to get it: you are installing things by hand and have not yet installed perl, or you deselected perl in dselect? Fabrizio -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | Pluto Leader - Debian Developer Happy Debian 1.3.1 User - vi-holic | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: tty uses only bottom line of screen
James Dietrich wrote: Sorry to answer my own post, but I figured out a solution to the problem: Put the following script in some directory such as /usr/bin and while you are at the messed up terminal, type cat /usr/bin/fixvt.sh if /usr/bin is the path to the file and fixvt.sh is its name. That should clear things up. I found this on http://www.lsl.com/forum/fixvt.html some time ago and used it to clear a terminal that got messed up by catting a binary file. Try typing stty sane even if you don't see the echo of your output. If it doesn't work well try prefixing and following it with Ctrl-J: ^Jstty sane^J it should work. Let me know Fabrizio -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | Pluto Leader - Debian Developer Happy Debian 1.3.1 User - vi-holic | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: RPM packages.
David R. Kohel wrote: checking for X... (cached) libraries /usr/X11R6/lib, headers /usr/X11R6/include checking for dlfcn.h... (cached) no checking for main in -lX11... (cached) no checking for main in -lXext... (cached) no checking for main in -lXpm... (cached) no checking for main in -lglib... (cached) no checking for main in -lgdk... (cached) no checking for gtk_gamma_curve_new in -lgtk... (cached) no checking for libgimp/gimp.h... (cached) no Anyone know what is wrong here? Just remove the cache (./config.cache). Fabrizio -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | Pluto Leader - Debian Developer Happy Debian 1.3.1 User - vi-holic | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [SOLVED] man problem, bo
Christian Leutloff wrote: Pann McCuaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Somehow both permissions and ownership got changed on /tmp. Oops! me too - after upgrading from 1.3.1 to unstable. Have you upgraded too?? Do you know which package!? I've updated a whole bunch of packages 8-( With this line you can find the offending package: $ for j in `find path -name '*.deb'` ;do echo $j; dpkg -c $j | grep '/tmp/$'; done But I don't think that you'll find one. In my experience this happens when untarring directly under /tmp a tarball containing ./ Better make a new dir under /tmp and untar inside it. When happens use chmod 1777 /tmp to recreate the sticky bit. Fabrizio -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | Pluto Leader - Debian Developer Happy Debian 1.3.1 User - vi-holic | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Segmentation fault (man apropos)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since last evening I have been getting segmention faults in man and in apropos. Can anyone explain to me what that means and how I fix it? Do I have to reinstall? No need to reinstall. One of your database files (indeb.bt on each subdir in /var/catman) went corrupted (you can see the timestamp different from the others: find /var/catman -name index.bt -ls ). The right fix is to run as root: mandb -c /usr/man if the index corrupted was /var/catman/index.bt, or mandb -c /usr/X11R6/man if the corrupted was in /var/catman/X11R6, To be sure you can run simply mandb -c to build _all_ the databases. (On my system 486/120 it takes 15-20 minutes). Scott Ellis wrote: find /var/catman -type f -name index.bt | xargs rm -f Although this apparently stops the segfault, it is the _wrong_ suggestion: the user was executing apropos, and removing the database makes apropos tell nothing appropriate for every request. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before the errors started I had been fiddling around trying to figure out how to send a fax from debian. Did you insatalled new packages for that (and therefor new manpages)? I am having big troubles trying to figure out _how_ actually this corruprtion appens (although I have some theories), and any information on strange things appened before the segfault (maybe involving package installation or removal, or man interuption) may help. All of the actions described were proformed while logged in as root. I don't know if my prior actions have any relation to the errors, but have included them just in case. No, in this case I don't think that they were involved. Thanks, fabrizio -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | Pluto Leader - Debian Developer Happy Debian 1.3.1 User - vi-holic | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Re: * Formal call for the removal of Bruce Perens *
Civ Kevin F. Havener wrote: Dave, I can appreciate the fact that you don't like Bruce's handling of the project. I do like the job that Bruce is doing, however. I'll stick with Bruce until the normal time for succession comes, and probably even after that. But please, by all means continue with your plan to release an alternate distribution. It should be an interesting product. I absolutely feel the urge to shout my me too. I agree with every word Kevin wrote (and even with those between the lines). Sorry to everybody for the BAD crosspost: I was obliged. Fabrizio -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | Pluto Leader - Debian Developer Happy Debian 1.3.1 User - vi-holic | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E Just because Red Hat do it doesn't mean it's a good idea. [Ian J.] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [OFFTOPIC] cpu idle time
joost witteveen wrote: Being a Linux enthousiast, I also like to think that AIX has that additional field, because AIX actually does wait for IO, i.e., while waiting for IO it doesn't do run any other jobs in the background. It's the exact opposite: when a process is waiting for IO (for example in a select() ) that process is put on bottom of the scheduler table and isn't run until something change (IO or signal). Thus wait-for-IO is idle time instead than running the process, and this idle time should be justified: thus the waiting for IO field. There is also another fact about a process running in real-mode (AIX has a double priority queue for scheduling processes: one is normal unix mode and the other is real-mode. You can nice a process to run in real-time, and the other processes will be scheduled during wait-for-IO: no idle) Fabrizio -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | Pluto Leader - Debian Developer Happy Debian 1.3.1 User - vi-holic | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E Just because Red Hat do it doesn't mean it's a good idea. [Ian J.] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Year 2000 Debian
Andy Dougherty wrote: Groff-1.10 had a couple of problems in some of the macro packages. [...] (This may all be corrected in 1.3.1 -- I don't have access to a 1.3.1 system now to check. I know it's been reported to the groff maintainer, but I haven't checked whether the groff-1.11 fixes the problem or not.) Not. groff-1.11a is a orphaned release with only a new documentation manual for pic. The author removed his name from some files and stated it as orphaned (on 11 August 1997). If you have any fix for those oddities, please put them in a bug report and send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Fabrizio -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | Pluto Leader - Debian Developer Happy Debian 1.3.1 User - vi-holic | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: man page for mkfs.ext2 ??
Bob Nielsen wrote: On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Chris R. Martin wrote: I'm in the process of copying my Debian system to a new (larger) partition and I want to tinker with the number of inodes, etc. The man page for mkfs refers me to the man page for mkfs.ext2... but I don't have it! Does anyone know which package this belongs in? I thought I got all the man pages... I don't know why, but try 'man mke2fs' instead. It was a bug in package e2fsprogs, fixed in recent versions. It's missing a symlink from mke2fs.8.gz to mkfs.ext2.8.gz fabrizio -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | Pluto Leader - Debian Developer Happy Debian 1.3.1 User - vi-holic | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: man-db ocassionally needs to be re-installed.
Andy Spiegl wrote: This is a little off-topic, but related to man-pages, too. My problem is that - when running man -a as I always do - I often get to see man pages multiple times. Yes, and if you skip one choosing Ctrl-D its entry disappear from the next run (and from the whatis database). All are known problems, fixed in the latests versions. I've built bo (aka for Debian 1.3) version numbered 42-51, while the hamm are numbered 52 . Latest ( -44 ) went installed just yesterday into: project/experimental/man-db_2.3.10-44_i386.deb You can have the .deb binary also from ftp://ftp.icenet.fi/private/fpolacco/debian/libc5 FYI, here is a list of recent changes (post -38 in 1.3.1), from the changelog file (in reverse order, recent on top): * avoided bashism in debian/rules. * deleted bogus files with spaces embedded in name (#13888) * applied patch for alpha by [EMAIL PROTECTED] #13851 * zsoelim.l - added new start condition to avoid expansion of .so requests inside a macro definition. (fixes #2969 and #13812) * added quote around var in mkcatdirs (fixes #13738, tx M.Konarski) * added removal of tempfiles from handler for SIGINT (fixes bug#13352 Thanks to John Goerzen) * changed way to call groff adding -P-g so grops can guess a page size (fixes #13563 uncorrectly assigned to groff, thx John Kallal) * solved deletion of entries in index when skipping their display (#10483) * wiped wrong message displayed when skipping display of manpage. * avoided redundant searches for section names longer than one char. * Added removal of tempfiles via atexit(). * restored original order in search sections (3 before 2) changed by previous maintainer (don't know why) (#12192 thx Juan Cespedes) * redirecting unusefull error messages in postrm and preinst (#12224) * doesn't provide gencat anymore, but can't use libc6's gencat. (#9841) * Changed tests in postinst to work with ash (#12212 thx Herbert Xu) * Changed define of debian version for use in non-debian systems (thanx to Albert Chin-A-Young); added file include/version.h * (Italian version) Minori correzioni a mandb.m da parte di Borto. * several corrections to it's = its typos in manpages [man(1), manpath(1), zsoelim(1), mandb(8)] Fixes Bug#11440 thanx to David Damerell. * Restore correct NAMN swedish parse for whatis (bug introduced by me fixing #6497 on version -34) Thanx to John F. Bunch. (fixes #12069) * Fixed segfault using an empty arg to -S option (Bug#12074, Thx Herbert Thielen) * Fixed wrong manpath behaviour (Bug#10377, Thanx to Michael Lachmann) * reduced output in postinst (Bug#11902). * included execution of chmanconfig (which adds MANDB_MAP lines for lang manpages) inside mkcatdirs (which creates catdir hierarchies). * added debian version info to option -V * corrected a couple of italian messages that didn't work (Grazie Borto) * added nlsutils in Replaces: field of control file (fixes Bug#9943) * Ugly typo in debian/rules that made .dwww-index disappear from last version (-38): my fault! (sigh) (autoBug#10130) * dropped scan of current directory if explicitly present in PATH both as an empty entry or an explicit dot; this used to left index files here and there. (fixes Bug#10039, thanks to Giuliano Procida) * allowed non man dirs if in manpath.config (now accepts manpages hierarchies like /usr/share/ucbman) fixes Bug#9947, thanks to Richard Kettlewell. Cheers, Fabrizio -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | Pluto Leader - Debian Developer Happy Debian 1.3.1 User - vi-holic | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: man-db ocassionally needs to be re-installed.
Joey Hess wrote: You might want to refer to bug reports #10483, #11278, etc at http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/pa/lman-db.html - the maintainer is aware of the problem, and I hope he figures out a fix soon. I have all the reports, but I wasn't able to reproduce the problem in any way. I've prepared an unstripped executable that could permit you to debug the core (or reproduce the segfault while in gdb) to help me figure what's the problem. It's in ftp://ftp.icenet.fi/private/fpolacco/debian/temp/man.gz It looks that the problem is related to a corrupted database (thus rebuilding it with mandb -c fixes the problem), but it's not clear how the database went corrupted. The installation of other manpages could be the trigger because man tryes to upgrade the database when it notices a new manpage. The bug should be related with bad behaviour for unexpected input. Finding the manpage that produces this could help a lot. Fabrizio -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | Pluto Leader - Debian Developer Happy Debian 1.3.1 User - vi-holic | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xdm broken during package additions.
Young wrote: I think it added xbooks but I don't believe I added xbase again which I would expect to change everything. It replaced many of the files X uses for configuration. It shouldn't. But under Debian all configuration files are in /etc (and those for X11 are in /etc/X11 ). Did you modifyed the files directly under /usr/X11R6/lib/... as other distributions suggest? I suggest you read /usr/doc/xbase/debian.README Fabrizio -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | Pluto Leader - Debian Developer Happy Debian 1.3.1 User - vi-holic | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: why /var/tmp/ not be cleaned at boot time
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The purpose of /var/tmp is to unload the possible activity and space requirements from root. /var/tmp was created after /usr/tmp, to let /usr be read only. In fact /usr/tmp is now a symlink to ../var/tmp /tmp is to be considered less persistent than /var/tmp : ideally it should be in a ramdisk or directly in the swap. To use a small partition for / , I've deleted /tmp and put a symlink to /var/tmp to let / be on a small partition. This would also solve your problem. Fabrizio -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | Pluto Leader - Debian Developer Happy Debian 1.3.1 User - vi-holic | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Bo-Hamm was Re: ghostscript problem
Dave Restall wrote:
Please enlighten me as to the meaning of hamm ?
Because this question or a variance on it is asked SO OFTEN,
shouldn't the people who decide these things be thinking
Hey perhaps we're doing something wrong here ?.
Hamm, bo, rex are codenames.
These are persistent names that will not change during their life,
while stable, frozen, unstable, Debian-1.2, Debian-1.3 and Debian-2.0
are not persistent and are created and changed according to the stage
(maturity) of the development.
Actually stable points to bo and unstable to hamm. Later will be
created frozen pointing to hamm, and a new codeneme will appear as
unstable. After the release time, stable will point to hamm as well
as Debian-2.0 and there will be a new unstable to work on.
Therefore we currently use codenames to uniquely identify one particular
hierarchy in the ftp site.
I haven't cheched, but I think this {is,should be} explained in the
README which is displayed when you log on the debian directory in the
ftp site.
Fabrizio
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Re: Bug#8111: less package doesn't include LESSOPEN support (was Re: Warning!! PAGER=zless)
Craig Sanders wrote: 2. create a shell script called lesspipe.sh in /usr/local/bin. ...[short and rich example]... this can be extended to cover many more file types. I agree. As a suggestion for including in the less package (maybe in example) I attach my /usr/bin/lesspipe.sh, which can decompress even if the name doesn't properly say that, display manpages and other groff macro files, display sgml files as text (the HOWTOs), and show content of debian packages. Enjoy yourself :-) Fabrizio -- +--+ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Using Debian GNU/Linux ! | | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E | +--+ lesspipe.sh Description: Bourne shell script
Re: apropos core dumps
---BeginMessage--- The man package that Debian uses doesn't need the makewhatis command. Debian 1.1.xx had a bug in apropos, that is fixed in Debian 1.2 You should upgrade, but I fear that this upgrade will affect a lot of programs, not only apropos ... I don't know anything about the other questions. BTW, is there any way to install debian in a large group of computers without selecting the packages every time? Perhaps using a particular file as default packages selected? This is something that is frequently under discussion, and I think that someone should create such a command. ciao, Fabrizio -- +---+ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | fingerprint 70 1A 72 2D 2B C8 A5 63 7A C2 CC E0 2A 54 AE DA | | finger for PGP key: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| non scampa, tra chi veste da parata, chi veste una risata.[fg]| +---+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---End Message---
Re: POPmail and procmail
Daniel Stringfield wrote: When I send a message via locally, over my own network, procmail seems to process the file, but when mail comes in via 'popclient' from my ISP, it doesn't seem to be running the .forward file. Does anyone have this same situation. Maybe I am beating my head against a brick wall for nothing. OR is there a way to have 'popclient' pass the mail to procmail directly? I think you could pipe directly popclient to procmail, but I suggest you to switch to fetchmail (popclient's new name). It feeds your mail to sendmail/smail (which you say is still working in your lan) and then to procmail. Fabrizio -- +-+ | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | | fingerprint 70 1A 72 2D 2B C8 A5 63 7A C2 CC E0 2A 54 AE DA | | finger for PGP key: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | +-+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apropos: warning: can't read the fallback whatis text database.
Heiko R. Selber wrote: On Fri, 6 Dec 1996, Fabrizio Polacco wrote: On debian-user-digest Heiko R. Selber wrote: How do I create the fallback whatis database? Do I need it? It should be created automatically. Go superuser and try mandb -c I did it. It said: [...] it worked. it builds an index in /var that is used by whatis and apropos commands. You got the right direction with your original question: How do I create the fallback whatis database? Do I need it? No, you don't need it. the fallback database is a text database that can be created using whatis -M manpath -w '*' | sort manpath/whatis as stated in the whatis manpage. You can do that to quiet the warning, but at the moment you don't need that database! (you need it if you are using tkman, for example) So the problem is in the message. I've decided to downgrade this message to a debug warning so it will not appear unless you use the -d option. It will be included in the next version on man (2.3.10-16) which I hope will go in Debian 1.2. When I will upload it I will CC you the changes message. Fabrizio -- +-+ | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | | fingerprint 70 1A 72 2D 2B C8 A5 63 7A C2 CC E0 2A 54 AE DA | | finger for PGP key: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | +-+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apropos: warning: can't read the fallback whatis text database.
On debian-user-digest Heiko R. Selber wrote: Hello, when looking for manpages with apropos I always get an error message and the wildcard search fails for X related (and some other) man pages. (I use Debian 1.1.4) Look at this: BEGIN pretty good example rudi:~$ apropos -w XDraw* apropos: warning: can't read the fallback whatis text database. apropos: /usr/X11/man/whatis: No such file or directory XDraw*: nothing appropriate. rudi:~$ apropos XDrawPoint XDrawPoint (3x) - draw points and points structure apropos: warning: can't read the fallback whatis text database. apropos: /usr/X11/man/whatis: No such file or directory - END pretty good example - How do I create the fallback whatis database? Do I need it? It should be created automatically. Go superuser and trymandb -c What version of apropos are you running? Try apropos --version or dpkg -s man ciao, Fabrizio -- +-+ | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://megabaud.fi/~fpolacco/ Join the UKI Linux Project! | | fingerprint 70 1A 72 2D 2B C8 A5 63 7A C2 CC E0 2A 54 AE DA | | finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | +-+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] From miss Received: from mongo.pixar.com (138.72.50.60) by master.debian.org with SMTP; 6 Dec 1996 15:26:09 - Received: (qmail 3987 invoked from network); 6 Dec 1996 15:10:05 - Received: from softdnserror (HELO master.debian.org) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by mongo.pixar.com with SMTP; 6 Dec 1996 15:09:23 - Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Fri, 6 Dec 1996 10:10:02 -0500 From: Ami Ganguli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Ganguli Consulting Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: H C Lai [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Swap overdraft References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: RPUq62.0.S_7.cg3go@master.debian.org Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Resent-Reply-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: debian-user@lists.debian.org archive/latest/916 X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Priority: non-urgent Importance: low Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] H C Lai wrote: Thanks for all the replies so far. The impression I get is that Linux does support the 'over-commitment' mode. Kernel 2.0.0 definitely does not support this. I have a ~10 lines of small fortran test programme which basically creates a HUGE array in a common block and then tries to use a small part of it. It failed with segmentation fault on elf. But succeeds by just putting in more swap !! Hmmm. I suspect that Fortran is trying to help you out by initializing the array elements to zero. Try a C program with malloc. ... Ami. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: netscape and locale?
Dirk Luetjens wrote: Hello I get an interesting error when using netscape in combination with the wg15-locale package and LANG set to de_DE. Does anybody has an idea, how to solve this, without losing the support for the german language? If you don't need (as I think) the language support inside of Netscape, try do reset the locale variables inside the wrapper you probably use to run Netscape. Something like: #!/bin/sh LANG= LD_PRELOAD=libgnumalloc.so.5 \ exec /usr/local/lib/netscape/netscape $@ (this is needed if you use libc 5.4, otherways eliminate the LD_PRELOAD) Fabrizio -- +-+ | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://megabaud.fi/~fpolacco/ Join the UKI Linux Project! | | fingerprint 70 1A 72 2D 2B C8 A5 63 7A C2 CC E0 2A 54 AE DA | | finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | +-+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mkwhatis?
Sorry for being late, but I read debian-user-digest ... I have also missed a post with a script, I suppose as reading Bernd's reply on debian-devel. Paul Seelig wrote: How do i generate a whatis database in Debian Linux? the manpage for whatis says: To produce an old style text whatis database from the relative index database, issue the command: whatis -M manpath -w '*' | sort manpath/whatis where manpath is a manual page hierarchy such as /usr/man. The command /usr/bin/whatis and its manpage are installed by the 'man' package. The most recent version is rex/binary-i386/doc/man_2.3.10-13.1 I'm very sorry to say that the whatis manpage (in german) installed by manpages-de (and also the italian one :-( ) refers to a different version and is to be considered WRONG. I'll raise some bugs. Hope that this helps. Fabrizio -- +-+ | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://megabaud.fi/~fpolacco/ Join the UKI Linux Project! | | fingerprint 70 1A 72 2D 2B C8 A5 63 7A C2 CC E0 2A 54 AE DA | | finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | +-+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] From miss Received: from mongo.pixar.com (138.72.50.60) by master.debian.org with SMTP; 8 Nov 1996 22:42:57 - Received: (qmail 11664 invoked from smtpd); 8 Nov 1996 22:18:46 - Received: from primer.i-connect.net (HELO master.debian.org) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by mongo.pixar.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 1996 22:17:07 - Date: Fri, 8 Nov 96 22:16:27 GMT Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Skreeg Brian Skreeg) To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: dpkg-ftp directories. Resent-Message-ID: KbaRN3.0.vA4.kHxWo@master.debian.org Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Resent-Reply-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: debian-user@lists.debian.org archive/latest/1675 X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Priority: non-urgent Importance: low Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quick one this. When using dpkg-ftp which directories do I want to scan to d'load things like the new Xfree863.2? stable contrib non-free unstable . That right? Ozzy, __ _ _ / \ \ \ / / / / / |-Brian SkreegIRC:_Ozzy-| \__/ \ \ |-Lead guitarist extraordinaire-| \__/_/ |-I don't look like two zombies-| -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Missing terminfo entries?
Raymond Penners wrote: I do have /usr/lib/terminfo/a/amiga. But it is not listed in /etc/terminfo/a (here only ansi is present). I think it is there only because it is needed during the installation (and it belongs to ncurses-base). /usr/lib/terminfo/a/ansi is a symlink ti /etc/terminfo/ , but _only_ ansi (in a/ dir). ncurses by default looks for terminfo compiled files in /usr/lib/terminfo, and you have it there. Both TERMCAP and TERMINFO are unset. Setting TERMINFO to /usr/lib/terminfo doesn't help either. So, IMHO, the Debian ncurses package is broken. What kind of test did you do to say that? I just tryed tput -T amiga some cap and got the correct sequencies. I re-read your first message and noticed that you refere to Amiga terminal emulation ncurses and terminfo are not for terminal emulation, on the contrary they allow a terminal (for example an amiga running a terminal emulator) to log in the host and run curses applications. ciao Fabrizio -- +-+ | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://megabaud.fi/~fpolacco/ Join the UKI Linux Project! | | fingerprint 70 1A 72 2D 2B C8 A5 63 7A C2 CC E0 2A 54 AE DA | | finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | +-+
Re: Missing terminfo entries?
Raymond Penners wrote: Perhaps not ncurses itself, but something is wrong somewhere. Several programs such as vim (3.0-5), joe/jmacs (2.8-4) complain about a missing termcap entries (e.g. when I set TERM=amiga). Here we are. ncurses is termcap compatible but doesn't provide a termcap file. To get it you have to install termcap-compat package. a grep on the Contents file is always helpfull :-) I did not have termcap-compat installed, since it mentions: [...] You need this package if a program [...] complains about a missing /etc/termcap file. This was exactly your case. But, why those packages requires termcap? I have checked vim and found that 3.0-5 was linked using -ltermcap while 3.0-6 uses -lncurses Grab it from development/binary-i386/editors/vim_3.0-6.deb and install It works, I have tested it. For the other packages I don't know, but can imagine a similar problem. Try first to install the versions that are under unstable (development). ciao Fabrizio -- +-+ | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://megabaud.fi/~fpolacco/ Join the UKI Linux Project! | | fingerprint 70 1A 72 2D 2B C8 A5 63 7A C2 CC E0 2A 54 AE DA | | finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | +-+
Re: Missing terminfo entries?
Raymond Penners wrote: Hi, My newly installed Debian system doesn't seem to recognize less standard terminal emulations. For example, Amiga terminal emulation (export TERM=amiga) is not present. You should install ncurses-term to get /usr/lib/terminfo/a/amiga You should also NOT have the TERMCAP environment variable set. (it should be absent) so also the TERMINFO variable should be unset, or pointing to /usr/lib/terminfo Also check if exist a terminfo (or .terminfo) in your home. I think you should not have one, unless you need to customize some terminfo file. ciao Fabrizio -- +-+ | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://megabaud.fi/~fpolacco/ Join the UKI Linux Project! | | fingerprint 70 1A 72 2D 2B C8 A5 63 7A C2 CC E0 2A 54 AE DA | | finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | +-+
Re: 4 man page languages now
Christian Hudon wrote: Does anyone know if there are French manpages coming up somewhere in the pipeline? I have no news of French manpages on the table of translations that I have on http://megabaud.fi/~fpolacco/en/docs.en.html this is probably my fault, because I don't speak French and so I'm not able to browse French sites. If you (or anyone else) have any news, please let me know. ciao Fabrizio -- +-+ | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://megabaud.fi/~fpolacco/ Join the UKI Linux Project! | | fingerprint 70 1A 72 2D 2B C8 A5 63 7A C2 CC E0 2A 54 AE DA | | finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | +-+
Re: where's man ??
Ezio Manini wrote: On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, Fabrizio Polacco wrote: German (manpages-de), Spanish (manpages-es), and Italian (manpages-it). (just to be precisian :-) Oh! where the italian one? I wasn't so precisian, uh? :-) ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/development/binary-i386/doc/manpages-it_0.0a-1.deb and mirrors manpages-it_0.0a-2.deb is coming this week (minor changes). Another upstream version has come, but has only 2 pages more than this, and I'll wait more pages or other changes. If you need these 2 pages (less, lesskey) I can make it. ciao Fabrizio -- +-+ | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://megabaud.fi/~fpolacco/ Join the UKI Linux Project! | | fingerprint 70 1A 72 2D 2B C8 A5 63 7A C2 CC E0 2A 54 AE DA | | finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | +-+
Re: where's man ??
Susan G. Kleinmann wrote: The man package is in section doc. You'll also need to install the manpages (in English, German (man-NNN-de), and Spanish (man-NNN-es)). German (manpages-de), Spanish (manpages-es), and Italian (manpages-it). (just to be precisian :-) ciao Fabrizio Polacco -- +-+ | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://megabaud.fi/~fpolacco/ Join the UKI Linux Project! | | fingerprint 70 1A 72 2D 2B C8 A5 63 7A C2 CC E0 2A 54 AE DA | | finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | +-+
