Re: Listing packages installed from experimental
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 8:25 PM, David Glover-Aoki da...@gloveraoki.net wrote: I'm running wheezy but have some packages installed from experimental. How can I list all the packages currently installed from experimental? aptitude search ~S ~i ~Aexperimental That doesn't work as expected for me. I am running Jessie, with only one package from Sid, as verified with apt-show versions mentioned earlier, and confirmed with apt-cache policy. I have set the pin priority of sid to 1 in /etc/apt/preferences do that there is no automatic upgrade to the packages from unstable. When I run: $ aptitude search ~S ~i ~Aunstable I get a lot more than only the packages that where installed from sid though. The installed packages for which the version in Jessie and Sid is the same are included in the list too. Is it possible to create a query in aptitude that shows the packages are *really* taken from sid ? pgpdUzaFFZypQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Listing packages installed from experimental
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com writes: When I run: $ aptitude search ~S ~i ~Aunstable I get a lot more than only the packages that where installed from sid though. The installed packages for which the version in Jessie and Sid is the same are included in the list too. Is it possible to create a query in aptitude that shows the packages are *really* taken from sid ? You can check from where these packages are coming with: aptitude search -F %p %t %v ~S ~i ~Aunstable %p : name of package %t : name of archive %v : version Since Sven posted the same search, I have to assume that I haven't used the wrong short options. I don't have the time to check the documentation but you could try the long options just in case: aptitude search -F %p %t %v ?narrow(?installed,?archive(unstable) I added a missing closing brace, and piped the output to grep, and that gives me the result I want: $ aptitude search -F %p %t %v ?narrow(?installed,?archive(unstable))|grep -v testing As the archive names are now listed in the output, I filter the output further with grep. pgpfUQ_7SdcUQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Kernel 3.14.x bug? rm, mv root-owned files
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz writes:
On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 04:45:37PM +0200, Filip wrote:
Removing a directory entries no relation whatsoever to the permissions
of the file.
Parse error! Does not compute! :)
--
If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the
oppressing. --- Malcolm X
What I mean to say was: The permissions on the file have no bearing on
whether or not you can unlink it's directory entry.
But really, it's a white lie ;-)
Because, it's possible to set the 'immutable' attribute ('chattr +i') on
the file which will prevent anyone from linking or unlinking the file,
and also prevents all write operations. But that is not really part of
the regular permission system, but more of a file system feature. And
it's not something to be casually used by end-users because a regular
user can't change the attribute.
Let's create a file and set the +i attribute:
$ touch imm
$ chattr +i imm
chattr: Operation not permitted while setting flags on imm
$ ls -l imm
-rw-r--r-- 1 filip filip 0 Jun 9 10:37 imm
$ sudo chattr +i imm
$ lsattr imm
ie-- imm
Permissions on the file on on the containing directory look quite
ordinary:
$ ls -ld .
drwxr-xr-x 2 filip filip 4096 Jun 9 09:57 .
$ ls -ld imm
-rw-r--r-- 1 filip filip 0 Jun 9 09:47 imm
Now let's try some operations:
$ echo test imm
bash: imm: Permission denied
$ mv imm newname
mv: cannot move ‘imm’ to ‘newname’: Operation not permitted
$ rm imm
rm: remove write-protected regular empty file ‘imm’? y
rm: cannot remove ‘imm’: Operation not permitted
$ ln imm newlink
ln: failed to create hard link ‘newlink’ = ‘imm’: Operation not permitted
We are not allowed to do very much with it.
Well at least reading works:
$ cat imm
$
It's an empty file, so the content is not very exciting, but try it
yourself with a file that contains data if you don't believe me ;-)
Now remove the attribute:
$ chattr -i imm
chattr: Operation not permitted while setting flags on imm
$ sudo chattr -i imm
$ lsattr imm
-e-- imm
And now we can remove the file:
$ rm imm
$ ls imm
ls: cannot access imm: No such file or directory
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Re: PulseAudio (was Re: Sid Foibles)
Rusi Mody rustompm...@gmail.com writes: JFTR: I try to stay with xfce if possible. But parole was not working and I had to install totem. This brought in a lot of gnome stuff -- including PA. And the next I knew, sound had stopped working. Started working when I removed PA. [I may have got some details wrong... this is my memory of it] Why not use vlc as media player? It doesn't pull in loads of desktop-specific dependencies, and it's flexible in letting choose which output backends to use for audio and video. If one backend doesn't works, there will surely be an alternitive on that does. There's even an ascii art backend for video ;-). pgpHAvYXkjhHG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Auto-emptying of trash.
Sharon Kimble boudic...@skimble.plus.com writes:
Revisiting a question that I asked in March last year about how to
auto-empty a trash bin.
This has worked very well until today, when on one of my drives it
also deleted the trash bin as well, so my follow-on script to give
me the size of my trash bin failed as there wasn’t a trash bin to
evaluate!
Here is the script lines -
find /media/boudiccas/back2/.Trash-1000 -type f -mtime +$days -delete;
find /media/boudiccas/back2/.Trash-1000 -depth -type d -exec rmdir
--ignore-fail-on-non-empty {} +;
and this is the evaulation script line -
echo 'Back2' - $(du -sh /media/boudiccas/back2/.Trash-1000 | cut -f1)
How can I get it such that it empties the trash bin but does not
delete the bin itself please?
Thanks
Sharon.
Add '-mindepth 1' to the conditions, so the that actions actions in the
find command only apply to the directory levels below the starting
level.
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Re: Should I install chkrootkit?
Joe j...@jretrading.com writes: next question: how does one see a 'hidden file' if one receives a warning in rkhunter about having two on your system? I can always delete /etc/.java and /etc/.fstab but what then? (why the 'dot' in front of the .java and .fstab) Warning: Hidden directory found: '/etc/.java' Warning: Hidden file found: /etc/.fstab: ASCII text thanks for your considerable comment so far Most GUI file managers have a setting in the View menu or Preferences for displaying hidden files, the dotted files are normally some kind of system or configuration file, which you usually don't want cluttering a display of work files. You'll find plenty of dotted files and directories in your home directory. You might want to install mc, the Midnight Commander, and run it from the command line for this kind of task. It shows everything and has a simple and fairly robust text editor built in, as well as many file processing commands. It's also easy to run as root using su or sudo, with a GUI file manager you'll have to call it from the command line or locate a 'File Manager as Root' menu entry. I don't like running GUI file managers as root because I may forget, but I know if I'm using mc, I'm doing something a bit non-standard, and I need to be careful. I also don't have complete faith in GUI text editors to show me what's really there, and I don't really like resorting to a hex editor for what are basically text files, so mc is a good compromise. For me, anyway. -- Joe Dired mode in emacs is also very good for this. You can tranparantly access files as root or on remote servers, it handles compressed files, encrypted files, tar files, files under version control etc. It can be used with a gui interface and it works just as well in text mode. And it has an editor too ;-). To view the files in /etc, you would use C-x C-f (find-file) and type /sudo::/etc when prompted for the filename. Or /su::/etc if you haven't set up sudo. If you are running emacs as root, you can just type /etc. And, of course the -A option for ls will also show you the file starting with a dot. $ ls -lA pgpAzBS3T7thr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Should I install chkrootkit?
Charles Kroeger ckro...@frankensteinface.com writes: On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 14:30:02 +0200 David Guyot david.gu...@europecamions-interactive.com wrote: Anyone saying that Debian and its software are flawless lies or doesn't know what's he is talking about. How true. And by the way, I have had chkrootkit installed for a long time and the other day I ran it after an upgrade and voilà: Searching for Suckit rootkit... Warning: /sbin/init INFECTED as a Sysadmin what do you suggest I can do to rid myself if this? Looking into /sbin/init only shows a lot of stuff that looks like modern art. I await your help, RSVP -- CK Do you have systemd-sysv installed ? When that package is installed /sbin/init is a symlink to systemd and I have heard that chkrootkit gives false positives for the suckit rootkit with that. You could double-check with rkhunter. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87lhta2rud@orac.fil
Re: Kernel 3.14.x bug? rm, mv root-owned files
The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm writes: On 06/05/2014 11:37 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: jimmy wrote: // --- remove (delete) a file owned by root, should not be allowed, but is allowed. Here, it says the file is 'read-only' so it warns about it, but of course rm -f would work, too: Why do you think it should not be allowed? It is allowed. If you don't want a user to modify the directory then change the permissions of the directory. In this case, however, the user isn't just modifying the directory; the user is modifying a file in the directory, by deleting that file. $ rm -v /tmp/testing/newjunk1.txt rm: remove write-protected regular file ‘/tmp/testing/newjunk1.txt’? y removed ‘/tmp/testing/newjunk1.txt’ Sure. Because tst1 owns /tmp/testing. I'm confused as to why that's enough. Yes, moving a file affects only data stored in the directory node which contains the file (and the directory node where the file is being moved to, which may be the same one). But deleting a file does not affect only data stored in the directory node which contains the file; it affects data stored in the file itself. (Assuming that there is only one hardlink to the file and the file is not presently open in any currently running process, which is often a reasonable assumption - and even when it is not, I don't think the permissions behavior of 'rm' should be different depending on the number of hardlinks to the file.) As such, it seems as if deleting a file *should* require write permission to that file. I makes perfect sense to me. rm doesn't actually delete files. It unlinks a directory entry. If this was the last link to the inode that constitutes the file (no links in other directories an no open file handles), the inode is deleted as a side effect. Removing a directory entries no relation whatsoever to the permissions of the file. Is there something I'm missing here? -- The Wanderer Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. A government exists to serve its citizens, not to control them. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/8761ke2j1q@orac.fil
Re: chromium doesn't launch
Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com writes: Anybody have any ideas why? grep of Xorg.0.log or whatever that was produced this error message, I have no idea whether it's relevant: AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/dri/unichrome_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/dri/unichrome_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. unichrome_dri.so provides direct rendering support for Via Unichrome graphics adapters. Direct rendering is used by Opengl for 3d accelleration. So, it doesn't have much to do with the Chromium web browser. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/871tv22i2g@orac.fil
Re: Which file to initialize X? (was Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro)
Joel Roth jo...@pobox.com writes: I would be interested in having a summary. For my purposes, I use startx, and 'man startx' tells me to put my initializations in .xinitrc, and does not refer to any other init files. I used to have an .xsession file, which eventually stopped working. 'man xsession' gives some other, more complicated advice. I guess it's time to start reading about this. :^) Regards, Joel -- Joel Roth When you run startx, it starts /etc/X11/xinitrc, which in turn start /etc/X11/Xsession. /etc/X11/Xsession does the necesarry initializations for your X session and it run the session scripts for the packages that have installed so that these packages are also initialized properly. If ~/.xession exists it is also run. Xsession is also started by the display manager, after you have logged on. The display manager doesn't use xinitrc. In some display managers, you also have a menu where you can select one of the sessions from /usr/share/xsessions instead of the 'default' xsession. For example all desktop environments and most window managers install a session file there, These are also started from /etc/X11/Xsession. If you create your own .xinitrc, all this is bypassed, and you are completely responsable for setting up your X session. The .xsession file, on the other hand will give the the same environment whether you use a display manager or start the X server with startx. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87ioody8pa@orac.fil
Re: upgrade? broke exim4
Mike McClain mike.j...@nethere.com writes: Mihamina Rakotomandimby mihamina.rakotomandi...@rktmb.org wrote: Does your Exim listen on IPv4 localhost? I think so. At leastwhen I run 'do netstat -tlpn | grep :25', I see: tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:250.0.0.0:* LISTEN 22669/exim4 until exim4 quits since it can't connect to port 25 leaving this: socket bind() to port 25 for address ::1 failed: Cannot assign requested address: daemon abandoned in /var/log/exim4/paniclog. Can anyone suggest what's necessary to connect to port 25? I've compared a month old backups copy of /etc/* to what's there today but see no differences that would account for losing the ability to grab email. It tries to bind to the ipv6 adress of the local interface. Maybe ipv6 is disabled in your system. Do you see the ::1 address when you run 'ip addr' ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87sinkua40@orac.fil
Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro
Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com writes: I recommend using .Xresources loaded into the xrdb at start time. It makes the most general sense to me. That way customizations are a property of your $DISPLAY and not a property of your $HOME. But either works if you understand the search and merge order. Bob Yeah, I guess when you start X application that run on a remote machine, it can get ugly really fast when you need to figure what resources will actually be used if you rely on anything else than .Xresources. Because, if I understand correctly, it will look for some resources in files on the remote machine (for example if you set XENVIRONMENT on the remote server), but for the .Xresources it will will use the values on the local system. So yeah, don't complicate your life more than is needed and stick to .Xresources and xrdb. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87egz5vdrd@orac.fil
Re: Crypt data on the fly
On Mon, 2 Jun 2014 18:32:30 +0200 L.M.J linuxmasterj...@free.fr wrote: Hi, This may be a nasty/bad idea, but I still ask : I sync my data to a cloud storage online service. I do NOT want to crypt my 60GB data at home, but I want them crypted on the cloud, so, when I rsync the data, I would like to send encrypted files on the fly. I want to have encrypted files, not rsync a 60GB encrypted partition. Any ideas ? Thanks I like to keep things simple. I just create encrypted archives on the local disk with dar and then push them remote server with rsync. Dar encrypts and compresses the data, slices it up in nice managable archive files, and keeps all extended attributes intact. I can also create incremental backups. You could do the same with tar but it would be a bit more complex. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140602203817.5625f...@orac.fil
Re: Crypt data on the fly
On Mon, 2 Jun 2014 21:21:03 +0200 L.M.J linuxmasterj...@free.fr wrote: Le Mon, 2 Jun 2014 20:38:17 +0200, Filip fi...@fbvnet.be a écrit : I like to keep things simple. I just create encrypted archives on the local disk with dar and then push them remote server with rsync. Dar encrypts and compresses the data, slices it up in nice managable archive files, and keeps all extended attributes intact. I can also create incremental backups. You could do the same with tar but it would be a bit more complex. I will check it out, require to double the space before upload. Problem : I change a file, run DAR, it will slices data into new archive files, since that's binary, it will rsync everything again, no ? I guess i will loose the rsync granularity... Yes, dar creates new archive files on each run. But you can create an incremental backup with only the changes. I have a script that creates a full backup ones per week, and an incremental backup relative to the weekly full backup on other days. I delete archives older than one month. That's enough for my needs, but you can implement any backup scheme with it however, with multiple levels of incremental backup. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140602214212.031b5...@orac.fil
Re: Create backup of system-connections on a USB stick
On Sat, 31 May 2014 22:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Horatio Leragon hlera...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Sunday, June 1, 2014 1:24 PM Subject: Re: Create backup of system-connections on a USB stick PS: Also read man chown man chmod I have read those man pages whose contents are only useful to those with a background in IT and computer science. What I see in them are just heaps of formulae which I do not know how to apply. What I need are examples of how to use those formulae. Unfortunately man pages are lacking in them. http://www.linux.org/threads/file-permissions-chmod.4094/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140601093442.45a2b...@orac.fil
Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro
On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 13:09:11 -0400 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 13:18:11 +0200 David Dušanić ivanovne...@gmail.com wrote: 31.05.2014, 18:59, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com: On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:51:13 -0400 Tony Baldwin t...@tonybaldwin.info wrote: Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last just manages windows category, and, in fact, don't even include a panel, which I think JWM has by default. You're just the person I need to talk to, Tony. Right now I've switched over from Xfce to Openbox, and like it. Except for one thing: the fonts look a whole lot worse on Openbox, and I have very bad vision, so this isn't aesthetics: It affects the speed at which I work. Do you know of a way to make fonts on Openbox look like the ones on Xfce? I would make an .Xdefaults/.Xresources in your home folder with this e.g.: Xft.autohint: 0 Xft.antialias: 1 Xft.hinting: true Xft.hintstyle: hintslight Xft.dpi: 96 Xft.rgba: rgb Xft.lcdfilter: lcddefault I added those to my ~/.Xdefaults, and whether I set Xft.dpi to 96, 48, or 192, it always looked the same, so I doubt that these things are being read or acted upon. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance It should be ~/.Xresources You can check if they are read with $ xrdb -query or load them manually with $ xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140601191820.3ae9a...@orac.fil
Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro
On Sat, 31 May 2014 12:59:06 -0400 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:51:13 -0400 Tony Baldwin t...@tonybaldwin.info wrote: Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last just manages windows category, and, in fact, don't even include a panel, which I think JWM has by default. You're just the person I need to talk to, Tony. Right now I've switched over from Xfce to Openbox, and like it. Except for one thing: the fonts look a whole lot worse on Openbox, and I have very bad vision, so this isn't aesthetics: It affects the speed at which I work. Do you know of a way to make fonts on Openbox look like the ones on Xfce? See here: https://lists.debian.org/20140515211401.2c51f...@orac.fil -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140531201255.5ae35...@orac.fil
Re: Gnome 3 password-protected screensaver / Jessie
On Wed, 28 May 2014 18:31:52 -0400 Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net wrote: Does such a thing exist and how can I activate it if it does? Last time I checked it was still included, and you could set up up with the standard settings menu in gnome-shell. Blank screen only, of course. But as they are prone to remove functionality, I wouldn't be surprised that someone decided that none should want to lock their screen and they took it out... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140529005450.43c5d...@orac.fil
Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.
On Sun, 25 May 2014 20:00:33 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sun 25 May 2014 at 00:12:57 +0200, Filip wrote: You can mount/unmount in xfe. When you have plugged in a hotpluggable medium, it gets and entry under /media. If you right click on it, you have the mount/unmount option. What program does xfe use for mounting? It certainly doesn't do anything for me when it is installed without its Recommends:. From what I can tell, it calls mount and umount as external commands. In order to be able to mount from the command line as normal user, I already had the following entries in /etc/fstab. /dev/sr0/media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 /dev/sdb1 /media/usb0 autorw,user,noauto 0 0 /dev/sdb2 /media/usb1 autorw,user,noauto 0 0 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140525213814.453a8...@orac.fil
Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.
On Sun, 25 May 2014 15:49:27 -0400 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: Yes. I downloaded and installed xfe, (admittedly, this was for my Ubuntu 13.10 box) and what I found is it doesn't show mountable drives like Thunar does, so you can't mount an arbitrary device from xfe. Also, my xfe installation dumps core with an illegal window parameter when you right click on anything and pick properties. Other than those two things, xfe looks like an excellent file manager. The coredump must be an Ubuntu thing. I never had it coredump on me, neither in Wheezy or the latest testing. Or maybe it's the window manager. Was it running under Openbox ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140525224542.14096...@orac.fil
Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.
On Sun, 25 May 2014 22:45:42 +0200 Filip fi...@fbvnet.be wrote: On Sun, 25 May 2014 15:49:27 -0400 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: Yes. I downloaded and installed xfe, (admittedly, this was for my Ubuntu 13.10 box) and what I found is it doesn't show mountable drives like Thunar does, so you can't mount an arbitrary device from xfe. Also, my xfe installation dumps core with an illegal window parameter when you right click on anything and pick properties. Other than those two things, xfe looks like an excellent file manager. The coredump must be an Ubuntu thing. I never had it coredump on me, neither in Wheezy or the latest testing. Or maybe it's the window manager. Was it running under Openbox ? I found the following bug report for it: http://sourceforge.net/p/xfe/bugs/171/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140525230535.067ac...@orac.fil
Re: Wish to ALMOST clone a logical partition
On Sat, 24 May 2014 12:07:04 -0500 Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: I'm running a series of experiments tweaking my Debian install. The procedure I wish to follow is: 0. Primary partition will have a normal install and will NOT be modified Grub2 installed to a second primary partition 1. install a minimal system to a logical partition 2. clone that partition to four additional logical partitions 3. Tweak the copies to have unique a. hostname b. partition label c. UUID Running dd from the master on the primary partition satisfies cloning function. Labeling partition done easily with gparted etc. Hostname can be set in /etc/hostname . How can I have each of the clones have a unique UUID. All partitions will be bootable and I suspect Grub could have problems. The test machine is physically isolated and will be only for this test - i.e. no security concerns. TIA A bit too obvious, probably, but can the testing not be done in a vm ? Anyway, I you want to the the UUID, you should be able to do that with garted. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140524192531.3578d...@orac.fil
Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.
On Sat, 24 May 2014 14:30:33 -0700 bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Sat, 24 May 2014 23:09:04 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote: xfe Nice, I didn't know it. I likely will use it in the future. i run openbox and one thing i would really like is an automounter for things like flash drives. any suggestions ? You can mount/unmount in xfe. When you have plugged in a hotpluggable medium, it gets and entry under /media. If you right click on it, you have the mount/unmount option. For real automounting, you can configure autofs, which is the Linux variant of the Unix automount deamon. http://www.autofs.org/ You really don't need GVFS or KIO. For remote transparant filesystem access, without NFS or Samba: sshfs, davfs, curlftpfs... (all based on the fuse kernel module) $ mkdir mnt $ sshfs filip@deb.local:/home/filip mnt $ df |grep mnt filip@deb.local:/home/filip 9717280 3673648 5526976 40% /home/filip/mnt $ ls -l mnt total 8 drwx-- 1 filip filip 4096 May 1 17:06 Mail drwxr-xr-x 1 filip filip 4096 May 1 17:03 s $ fusermount -u mnt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140525001257.2addc...@orac.fil
Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.
On Sat, 24 May 2014 21:50:32 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 15:34 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: feh to set the root window to a nice background image. I use feh --bg-scale for my Arch's JWM, but Esetroot -m for my Debian's JWM. Perhaps Esetroot is obsolete. Both are fine. Did anybody already mention a terminal emulation? IMO a good terminal emulation is ROXterm Yes, Roxterm is basically what gnome-terminal would and should be if it wasn't crippled by gnome. and Sublime Text might be a good editor, I still tend to use Pluma (quasi Gedit). There are only two editors worth learning: emacs and vi/vim. Both are very different and each has it's fans. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140525002741.2c536...@orac.fil
Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.
On Fri, 23 May 2014 10:08:56 -0400 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Fri, 23 May 2014 12:46:14 +0300 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Mi, 21 mai 14, 08:58:00, Joe wrote: The other medium-weight DE is LXDE. If there is an even lighter weight DE than LXDE I'd be very interested. Kind regards, Andrei Well, I mean, if lightness is your sole priority, drop all the way back to fvwm2. It would probably run on a 16MB 286. I think you'd need to run X without a window manager to get lighter than fvwm2. As far as practical interfaces for serious desktop work, I wonder if OpenBox is lighter weight than LXDE? If so, *highly* recommend OpenBox: It's wonderful. Here's some documentation I wrote about it: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/openbox/index.htm SteveT Openbox works very well. It's not a complete desktop environment of course, just one component, so you will need to pick and choose the applications to make it a workable environment. Which is actually a good thing because the application that are part of a desktop environment are usually somewhat poor. You can run tint2 to provide replace the taskbar/system tray/desktop pager functionality. feh to set the root window to a nice background image. xfe is a fast and easy to use file manager (not based on Gtk or Qt, and not even on Fltk but on the somewhat unknown Fox toolkit) wmctrl is a very useful tool to use in rc.xml for fast fast switching between applications: For example: keybind key=W-e action name=Execute commandwmctrl -x -a emacs.Emacs/command /action /keybind Switches to the desktop where emacs is running, and focuses the window in one keypress. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140523174244.32f2ea5e@mycroft
Re: KDE locks up periodically
On Fri, 23 May 2014 11:30:26 -0400 Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net wrote: On 23/05/14 09:37 AM, Christopher Judd wrote: On Thursday, May 22, 2014 05:45:26 PM Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Debian/Jessie on an AMD64 system. The problem I'm having is that every several minutes or so, KDE lock ups. It doesn't totally freeze but applications might get slow or even stop responding entirely for a minute or two. Dolphin is particularly bad. It seems to lock up the longest. However even a game like kreversi doesn't respond for a period. The mouse responds, as does keyboard input in konsole, but sometimes even Kicker (or whatever they're calling the launch bar these days) stops responding. Iceweasel and Icedove also stop responding when the system all but locks. I've checked Top and Iotop but nothing seems to be causing excessive disk or cpu activity. Even virtuoso, which has been implicated in some slowdowns, seems to be behaving itself. Killing it doesn't help. I've been working in Gnome for the last half hour without incident, so It's probably not a hardware or network issue. However, I prefer KDE and would like to get back to it. Any ideas? I don't have any idea what is causing this, but I have KDE setup with six virtual desktops. When an application freezes (Opera or Dolphin, usually), switching desktops and returning generally fixes it. It doesn't happen nearly as often as you describe, however, maybe a few times a day. Thanks Chris, but it's not the same problem. Switching virtual desktops has no effect in my case. And the lockup appear to be periodic - about every 10 - 15 minutes, lasting a minute or two. There also appears to be continuous disk activity at the time, but iotop doesn't show any particular application hogging the disk. Interestingly, I can launch kreversi and it will often appear on the desktop while this is happening, but I won't be able to make a move in it until the lockup the finishes. However, top also doesn't show any unusual cpu activity. I had been suspecting a hardware or network issue (I had a similar problem twice recently - once resolved by reducing my nfs share connections and the other by replacing a network switch), but this time switching to Gnome from KDE corrected the problem. Since I have the same applications running (including dolphin and kontact) plus an extra terminal (to launch konsole) over the same number of desktops, this indicates that it is something in the kde desktop environment. If you create a new user, and run everything with the defaults, do you still have those lockups ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140523175055.317b0b92@mycroft
Re: Setting up a home gateway/router
On Fri, 23 May 2014 06:57:15 +0200 csanyi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I wish to set up my home headless power pc box as a gateway/router ( GW ). I can connect to it with SSH only. Before, I set up this GW to get an IP address from my ISP with dhcp.client. Now, I ask a static IP address for this GW and don't know how to setup eth0 interface so I can connect to Internet from this GW and to forward Internet connection to my LAN. My ISP | --- eth0 ( GW ) --- eth1 | LAN This is my home network that I want to set up. The state of this setup so far is that that I can SSH into GW only, but can't reach the Internet, and from LAN I can't reach Internet too. Can I get advices how to setup my home network? -- Regards, from Paul Are the ip adresses on your LAN publicly routable ? Probably not ? You will need to set up network address translation to masquerade all your internal traffic as coming from the public ip address assigned by your ISP. This requires some trickery with iptables. You will need a firewall too, anyway. The shorewall documentation gives some guidelines on how this can be done, and shorewall is more managable than manipulating iptables directly. http://www.shorewall.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140523210244.0fc88...@orac.fil
Re: media 'slideshow': movies + pictures
On Fri, 23 May 2014 18:37:35 +0200 Wim Bertels wim.bert...@khleuven.be wrote: Hallo, does anyone know a free program to display pictures and movies as a presentation (mplayer and vlc don't seem to do that) eg ideally as simple as: $ programX -r media/ would show them in a random order where /media has a tree subdir structure containing movies and pictures mvg, Wim feh does it for images. $ feh -r -z -D 10 Pictures/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140523214427.4c810...@orac.fil
Re: wireless can DHCP but not DNS?
On Thu, 22 May 2014 15:08:36 -0400 Tom Roche tom_ro...@pobox.com wrote: summary: box ethernets via wire, but all wireless fails, including known-good providers: `ifconfig -a` shows a wireless IP#, but `nslookup` fails. How to fix or debug? details: I'm running LMDE UP8 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Mint#Linux_Mint_Debian_Edition http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2544 up-to-date on a new ThinkPad (new to me, anyway :-) with $ inxi -Fxz System:Host: filter Kernel: 3.11-2-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit, gcc: 4.8.1) Desktop: Cinnamon 2.0.14 Distro: LinuxMint 1 debian ... Network: Card-1: Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6200 driver: iwlwifi ver: in-tree: bus-ID: 03:00.0 IF: wlan0 state: down mac: filter Card-2: Intel 82577LM Gigabit Network Connection driver: e1000e ver: 2.3.2-k port: 1820 bus-ID: 00:19.0 IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: filter I run wired ethernet at home and work, and installed debian on the newer laptop via wire without problems. I also have an older laptop with an older LMDE (UP5) which I won't be updating until I get everything working on the newer box :-( Wireless works as expected on the older laptop, including at the following locations: * home (FreedomPop Hub Burst modem/router, security=WPA personal with encryption=AES) * nearby municipal wireless (unsecured) * work (security=WPA enterprise) But at each of those locations, wireless fails on the newer laptop in the same way: I can DHCP (at least, I get an IP address) but not DNS ... which makes no sense to me! For example: At home I can enable wireless on the modem/router, then startup the older box. It autoconnects to that SSID, and then me@OldBox:~$ date ; nslookup www.google.com ; date Thu May 22 13:08:43 EDT 2014 Server: 192.168.15.1 Address: 192.168.15.1#53 ... me@OldBox:~$ date ; sudo ifconfig -a Thu May 22 13:08:45 EDT 2014 ... wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr filter inet addr:192.168.15.56 Bcast:192.168.15.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: filter Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:40217 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:32431 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:15583645 (14.8 MiB) TX bytes:9273602 (8.8 MiB) I can then browse to pages normally (using firefox). I then disable the old box's wireless (via NetworkManager), enable the new box's wireless, and connect ... or at least, NetworkManager gives connection notification. But when I do me@NewBox ~ $ date ; nslookup www.google.com ; date Thu May 22 13:11:22 EDT 2014 ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached Thu May 22 13:11:37 EDT 2014 me@NewBox ~ $ date ; sudo ifconfig -a Thu May 22 12:53:07 EDT 2014 ... wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr filter inet addr:192.168.15.71 Bcast:192.168.15.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: filter Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:998 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1099 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:77446 (75.6 KiB) TX bytes:177995 (173.8 KiB) FWIW, I have the same wireless experience at the other locations (open municipal wifi and secured wifi @ work): older box just works, newer box connects and gets IP# but can't DNS (or browse). Given that the older box (and in the latter cases, lots of other devices) works with these SSIDs, I suspect they are not misconfigured. Given that NetworkManager seems happy, and DHCP at least partly works, on the newer box, I suspect the newer box does not have a hardware problem. So I tend to suspect a software problem on the newer box. Am I missing something? Mostly I'd like to know, 1. How to fix or debug the newer laptop? 2. How can the newer box get an IP# but no DNS server#s? I've used DHCP for many years but don't recall seeing this behavior before, except with misconfigured routers--which does not seem to apply in this case, because, in every instance, the old box works as expected. Your assistance is appreciated, Tom Roche tom_ro...@pobox.com - Can you access the internet at all or is it only the DNS ? Try retrieving the Debian homepage $ wget http://130.89.148.14 - Compare /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/nsswitch.conf between the two systems. - Compare $ ip route between the two systems. - ifconfig is deprecated, and i've seen case where it gives wrong information. use ip addr $ ip addr - Are you, by any chance, blocking things with iptables ? $ iptables -n -L -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:
Re: Console font
On Thu, 22 May 2014 16:10:08 -0400 john s. jrs...@cogeco.ca wrote: On Thu, 22 May 2014 16:06:47 +0200 Francesco Ariis fa...@ariis.it wrote: On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 09:34:21AM -0400, john s. wrote: How can I increase the size of the console font? It depends on your terminal emulator. I suppose it's gnome-terminal. Can you check and report back? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140522140647.ga6...@x60s.casa This is a new install without no desktop ie. just the base installion # dpkg-reconfigure console-setup or if want to do it manually: setfont. The Terminus font is a nice easy readable font for the console. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/2014054346.3087e...@orac.fil
Re: Systemd and vt9
On Tue, 20 May 2014 23:53:04 -0700 Marc Shapiro marcns...@gmail.com wrote: I have been reading a lot of posts (here and in devel) about the upcoming change to Systemd as the default init system in Jessie. I came acrosss a post along the wasy that mentioned a debug option that would open a root shell in vt9. This could cause a problem for me as I always have an X session running in vt9 (as well as one on vt7 and one on vt8). Yes, there are three X sessions always running on my system. Mine, my wife's and my daughter's. All it takes is a Ctl-Alt-Fx to switch between sessions so there is no need for all three of us to use a single X session, or to log out and back in as a new user. Everything is always just as I left it when I return to the computer, even if both my wife and daughter have been using it for hours. I accomplish this by using an alias for startx in each of our logins. I use: alias startx='clear; startx -- :0 vt07' for myself, alias startx='clear; startx -- :1 vt08' for my wife, and alias startx='clear; startx -- :2 vt09' for my daughter. So can anyone who is actually using Systemd now (I am still on Wheezy, BTW) tell me if this is going to be an issue for me? Can I do this once my box has been converted to Systemd? What about that root login on vt9? Marc The debug shell on vt9 is not active by default. You only want to enable that when you have boot problems, as it gives you a root shell without requiring any authentication. $ systemctl status debug-shell debug-shell.service - Early root shell on /dev/tty9 FOR DEBUGGING ONLY Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/debug-shell.service; disabled) Active: inactive (dead) Docs: man:sushell(8) But even if the debug shell is running, the X server can still start on vt9. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/2014052050.6a9d1...@orac.fil
Re: Systemd and vt9
On Wed, 21 May 2014 21:49:06 +1200 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:53:04PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: So can anyone who is actually using Systemd now (I am still on Wheezy, BTW) tell me if this is going to be an issue for me? Can I do this once my box has been converted to Systemd? What about that root login on vt9? Don't convert to systemd then. Systemd is going to be the default init system for new installs. If on an upgrade you find that you are running systemd you won't be the only one upset! That is when the sh*t will really hit the fan. Too late, I have already upgraded before I knew I was supposed to be terrified of it. Will it take long before bad things start to happen ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140521121458.75d8b...@orac.fil
Re: Systemd and vt9
On Wed, 21 May 2014 20:47:25 +1000 Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote: The closer to stock-standard install you are, the easier _should_ be your upgrade to systemd init. If it's already happened, and everything's running for you, you're gold! Nothing to worry about now :) Enjoy your faster reboots, Zenaan I was only being sarcastic. I don't understand all this worry about systemd. At least not if you're running Linux based system, as an end-user. Yes, other free operating systems that that can't currently run systemd will have a problem because as more and more software depends on it they will see themselves unable to run a lot of software. That is a legitimate worry. There threatens to emerge a gap between more pure Unix-like systems like the BSD's and systems like Linux that are starting evolve beyond that. non-issue. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140521132859.04b32...@orac.fil
Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.
On Wed, 21 May 2014 05:52:18 -0400 Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:57:29AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mostly terminal window. i am new to gnome and xfce. so my question is, are all the applications from gnome will be available in xfce, is it like a layer on the top of gnome 3. are all gnome utilities will be available as well? like system monitor etc. ---end quoted text--- I'd stay away from Xfce4 it hasn't had much activity from the developer for *some* time. However Cinnamon is a good alternative as it's actively maintained and uses the less buggy GTK3. MATE afaik is built with the GTK2 stuff that is quite buggy. Or with Gnome-Shell there is fallback and other modes that will probably give you the familiar interface. Mate intents to support both GTK2 or GTK3, and leaves it up the the distributions what they choose to build with. And GTK2 is more buggy then GTK3 ? Really ? That being said maybe give Gnome-Shell some time - I disliked it at first, but after a month came around and can appreciate it. There are a plethora of gnome-shell extensions also that can help one customize the shell to look like the traditional desktop. I had the opposite reaction. I didn't instantly dislike it when it came it, and thought that the detractors where just too close minded to try out new improved interface concepts. After having used it for one and a half years however, I have grown to absolutely dispise it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140521140555.4f5f4...@orac.fil
Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.
On Wed, 21 May 2014 22:31:18 +1000 Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote: On 5/21/14, Filip fi...@fbvnet.be wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2014 05:52:18 -0400 Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:57:29AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mostly terminal window. i am new to gnome and xfce. so my question is, are all the applications from gnome will be available in xfce, is it like a layer on the top of gnome 3. are all gnome utilities will be available as well? like system monitor etc. I had the opposite reaction. I didn't instantly dislike it when it came it, and thought that the detractors where just too close minded to try out new improved interface concepts. After having used it for one and a half years however, I have grown to absolutely dispise it. Your experiences would be interesting to me, given how long you've used it for. If you would itemize the key problems/frustrations/bug-bears, that would be appreciated. I'll leave it to you to decide whether to post to debian-user or to d-community-offtopic :) Thanks Zenaan I was initially attracted to the somewhat minimalistic impression it gave, but I mistakenly thought that under that minimalistic appearance there is a lot of hidden power under the hood. How wrong I was ! It's incredible uncustomizable (don't talk to me about the crappy undocumented plugin system), and they really seem to expect you to use the whole thing exactly as it is configured by default, and seem to arrogantly think that they know better what you should want than you know yourself. In every release functionality is removed because they decided for you that you shouldn't want to use that: Want to have nice screen effect in your screensaver ? No way! Blank screen is all you getting from us from now on. Want to change the theme ? Absolutely not supported! You can use an unofficial plugin that can can install with the unsupported gnome-tweak-tool, but we will make sure that the interface changes with every GTK release so the all themes are completely or semi-broken unless they are constantly updated by the maintainer. But that's a good thing because you're supposed use our superior default theme even though it's utterly boring. Split screen in the filemanager ? We removed that! You don't need that, you idiot. Transparancy in gnome-terminal ? ... well you know the drill by know don't you ? There comes a point when it's just too much. Then there is the way they maintain the GTK3 library. They maintain it as if it's a gnome only thing and completely ignore the fact that it used to be a cross-desktop toolkit and it's almost as if they have a Microsoft-like attitude and view other projects as if they are competition that has to be crushed. For my part, I wouldn't mind if the GNOME project dwindles into irrelevancy, and hopefully the MATE project can carry on the gnome legacy in a more sane way. I'm using openbox+tint2 now, for what it's worth. Minimalism without the straightjacket. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140521152038.52897...@orac.fil
Re: Accelerated driver for Intel video driver?
On Mon, 19 May 2014 19:18:38 -0400 Brad Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote: I hope I don't run afoul of the self-imposed list monitors or otherwise fan a flame war...:) I have been using nvidia cards in my computers for so long that I haven't really kept up with the state of Intel... My problem is that when I try to play a video on this machine, either with mplayer or vlc, the video starts, and I will get about 1/2 of the frame that is actually playing, usually it is at the top. The audio plays normally. This happens whether in a window or full screen. The machine in question is a Dell Inspiron 5537 laptop with 6GB of RAM that has an Intel Haswell ULT video card in it. lspci shows me: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: Dell Device 05e9 Looking through /var/log/Xorg.0.log, it appears to be loading several modules, including [ 36918.029] (II) LoadModule: glx [ 36918.127] (II) LoadModule: intel [ 36918.168] (II) LoadModule: vesa [ 36918.195] (II) LoadModule: modesetting [ 36918.197] (II) LoadModule: fbdev [ 36918.219] (II) LoadModule: fbdevhw [ 36918.248] (II) LoadModule: fb [ 36918.293] (II) LoadModule: dri2 [ 36919.740] (II) LoadModule: evdev [ 36919.926] (II) LoadModule: synaptics Other apps seem to behave normally. I can play youtube videos, for example. Please let me know what other information I can provide. Thanks, --b Intel video is normally working out of the box, but for newer hardware you also need up to date software. So if you are on 7.5, try upgrading Jessie. For example, I couldn't get 3d accelleration working on the integrated adapter of my i5-4570S on Debian 7.3, and upgrading to testing solved it. You can check if it's the same problem with: $ glxinfo | grep renderer If there is something with LLVM in the output, it's not working and falling back to software emulation. While you're at it, you can also try glxgears. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140520080832.258a1...@orac.fil
Re: Debian 5 -- data is plural.
On Tue, 20 May 2014 17:03:16 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: (Sorry, Ken. resending correctly to list.) On Tuesday 20 May 2014 16:00:42 Ken Heard wrote: Please note everybody that the word data is plural. The beginning of the last line quoted above should consequently read all the scientific data *are* backed up. Other posts in this thread make the same error. The singular of data is datum. This is of course, gramatically correct. But I would argue that, although in formal writing it should certainly be treated as a plural, in colloquial speech it no longer is. I would also argue that emails are colloquial speech not formal writing. This does not apply in the same way to all of your group. Where it is needful to have both a singular and a plural, as in bacterium/bacteria and criterion/criteria it would be perverse to make a plural by putting an s on the plural! (Though some people do.) Language changes, whether one wishes it or not. We no longer speak the English of Shakespeare or the King James' Bible. I still sometimes catch myself using the present subjunctive in speech. I do not think that I am correct to do so. For this usage it is dead. Indeed, for all intents and purposes, the imperfect subjunctive is dead. Lisi The dictionary agrees with you. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/data Both constructions are standard. The plural construction is more common in print, evidently because the house style of several publishers mandates it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140520181615.20724...@orac.fil
Re: Debian 5 -- data is plural.
On Tue, 20 May 2014 14:49:02 -0400 Ken Heard kensli...@teksavvy.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-05-20 12:16, Filip wrote: On Tue, 20 May 2014 17:03:16 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: (Sorry, Ken. re-sending correctly to list.) On Tuesday 20 May 2014 16:00:42 Ken Heard wrote: Please note everybody that the word data is plural. The beginning of the last line quoted above should consequently read all the scientific data *are* backed up. Other posts in this thread make the same error. The singular of data is datum. This is of course, grammatically correct. But I would argue that, although in formal writing it should certainly be treated as a plural, in colloquial speech it no longer is. I would also argue that emails are colloquial speech not formal writing. This does not apply in the same way to all of your group. Where it is needful to have both a singular and a plural, as in bacterium/bacteria and criterion/criteria it would be perverse to make a plural by putting an s on the plural! (Though some people do.) Language changes, whether one wishes it or not. We no longer speak the English of Shakespeare or the King James' Bible. I still sometimes catch myself using the present subjunctive in speech. I do not think that I am correct to do so. For this usage it is dead. Indeed, for all intents and purposes, the imperfect subjunctive is dead. Lisi The dictionary agrees with you. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/data Both constructions are standard. The plural construction is more common in print, evidently because the house style of several publishers mandates it. The Oxford English Dictionary however agrees with me. Regards, Ken No it doesn't. http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/data?q=data In modern non-scientific use, however, it is generally not treated as a plural. Instead, it is treated as a mass noun, similar to a word like information, which takes a singular verb. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140520210248.367c2...@orac.fil
Re: systemd - excessive session-creation time
On Sun, 18 May 2014 02:34:35 -0400
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net
wrote:
Although initial tty session (from boot) is quicker than with
sysvinit, additional tty sessions are very slow to start, in the
order of 5 seconds (which seems like an eternity).
Additionally, this slow tty/session creation time is seen when:
*) exiting X - ie logout back to terminal (from startx)
*) Shutdown from XFCE logout/shutdown dialog
When exiting X from a startx at the linux tty, there appears to be a
large session tear-down time.
In addition, a similarly long duration is seen when (as stated)
starting another linux vt.
By default, other than tty1 (via
/etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/getty@tty1.service), VTs are
started dynamically as needed.
If you want tty2 to be available permanently and persistently through
reboots, run:
systemctl enable getty@tty2.service
systemctl start getty@tty2.service
The first command will create a
/etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/getty@tty2.service symlink to
/lib/systemd/system/getty@.service, which is more or less similar
to, in the case of a hypothetical getty@tty2 sysvinit script, having
update-rc.d enable getty@tty2 create
/etc/rc{2,3,4,5}.d/Sabgetty@tty2 and /etc/rc{0,6}.d/Kcdgetty@tty2
symlinks to /etc/init.d/getty@tty2.
And you can set the maximum number of dynamic VTs
in /etc/systemd/logind.conf. Default is 6.
#NAutoVTs=6
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Re: Max number of loop devices OR efficient search of Debian documentation
On Sun, 18 May 2014 15:15:34 + (UTC) Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: On 2014-05-18, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: My current instance is attempting to modify the max number of loop devices. One pellet of Google buckshot reminded me that it can be reset for the next re-boot under /etc/modprobe.d . But I want to reset it on the fly. I'm reading you can *add* another loop device on the fly with the mknod command: mknod -m 660 /dev/loop8 b 7 8 But I guess that covers only half of the word modify. You can create devices nodes with that in the filesystem, but they will not work unless they also exist in the kernel. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140518173502.2c0b7...@orac.fil
Re: latest sendmail on testing
On Sun, 18 May 2014 13:07:10 -0400 Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Filip fi...@fbvnet.be writes: On Sat, 17 May 2014 17:08:10 -0400 Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Filip fi...@fbvnet.be writes: [...] I would have thought the install of a pkg would also create any needed directories for the pkg to operate. Is it normal for user to create these things? No, it's not normal. The post-install scripts should create a working initial configuration where it at least starts up. Try reinstalling with the --reinstall option. apt-get install sendmail --reinstall apt-get install sendmail-base --reinstall apt-get install sendmail-bin --reinstall Does that give any errors ? Just those I mentioned that only required moving a few lines in sendmail.mc However I'm still seeing something in the smtp conversation output about not being able to write somewhere... The message is too damn cryptic be very helpful. (see below). If you are running version 4.14.4-5.. maybe you could post the perms on: /var/spool/clientmqueue (Its a directory that should be created during install but is not). And: /var/lib/sendmail (There should be another directory here named /var/lib/sendmail/host_status but it didn't get created during install either) ---- ---=--- - Tail of smtp conversation: 250 2.0.0 Verbose mode MAIL From:rea...@rdr.local.lan SIZE=289 AUTH=rea...@rdr.local.lan 250 2.1.0 rea...@rdr.local.lan... Sender ok RCPT To:rea...@newsguy.com DATA 250 2.1.5 rea...@newsguy.com... Recipient ok 354 Enter mail, end with . on a line by itself . 421 4.3.0 collect: Cannot write ./dfs4IGodqZ004450 (bfcommit, uid=0, gid=122): No such file or directory QUIT rea...@newsguy.com... Deferred: 421 4.3.0 collect: Cannot write ./dfs4IGodqZ004450 (bfcommit, uid=0, gid=122): No such file or directory Closing connection to [127.0.0.1] --- - ---=--- - I can't figure out where the damn thing is trying to write, perhaps the root uid should be something else? ---- ---=--- - perms on /var/spool stuff: total 32 drwxr-xr-x 2 rootroot4096 May 16 16:48 anacron This one I created by hand and took the perms from the similar named directory mqueue-client which did exist *** drwxrws--- 2 smmsp smmsp 4096 May 17 14:41 clientmqueue drwxr-xr-x 5 rootroot4096 May 16 16:20 cron drwxr-x--- 5 Debian-exim Debian-exim 4096 May 16 16:35 exim4 drwxr-xr-x 3 rootroot4096 May 16 16:18 libreoffice lrwxrwxrwx 1 rootroot 7 May 16 15:47 mail - ../mail drwxrws--- 2 smmta smmsp 4096 Feb 15 19:32 mqueue drwxrws--- 2 smmsp smmsp 4096 May 18 12:50 mqueue-client drwx-- 2 rootroot4096 Mar 28 08:10 rsyslog ---- ---=--- - ls -ld /var/lib/sendmail I changed this to what you see, from: drwxr-s--x drwxrws--x 3 smmta smmsp 4096 May 18 12:49 /var/lib/sendmail ls -l /var/lib/sendmail/ -rw-rw 1 root smmsp0 May 17 21:55 dead.letter drwxrws--- 2 root smmsp 4096 May 18 12:49 host_status I have this: drwxr-s--- 2 smmta smmsp 4096 May 18 19:46 /var/spool/mqueue drwxrws--- 2 smmsp smmsp 4096 Feb 16 01:04 /var/spool/mqueue-client drwxrwsrwt 2 root mail 4096 May 18 19:46 /var/mail drwxr-s--x 2 smmta smmsp 4096 May 18 19:40 /var/lib/sendmail mqueue-client instead of clientmqueue. # dpkg -L sendmail-bin|grep client /var/spool/mqueue-client sendmail package version 8.14.4-5 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140518200525.5648e...@orac.fil
Re: systemd situation in Jesssie
On Mon, 19 May 2014 04:11:29 +1000 Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 3:43 AM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: I'm with Sven here. Install systemd-shim and systemd-sysv will not be installed. One consideration might be https://lists.debian.org/1399888483.5437.804.camel@dsp0698014 As far as GDM is concerned, any bug reported with systemd-shim installed will be ignored. The bug script should probably be updated to that effect, BTW. I just read that post and its follow-ups; my understanding is that this is not a reason for avoiding systemd-shim. It's either a statement of annoyance with no real significance, or a reason for avoiding GNOME. (And more likely the former.) Chris Angelico There are other reasons to boycot GNOME though. Look at the latest 'feature' in they put in GTK+ 3.12: http://redmine.audacious-media-player.org/boards/1/topics/1135 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140518205113.6664d...@orac.fil
Re: Vertualbox installation errors
On Fri, 16 May 2014 12:06:51 -0700 Gary Roach gary719_li...@verizon.net wrote: Here is an attempt to answer all of the questions and suggestions: I am definitely installing Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 ( I checked the grub config files) You'll have to stop telling only half of the story, if you want help with this. You have been asked for the output of dpkg --print-architecture multiple times now. I try to never use anything but the standard Debian distros. To do otherwise is inviting all sorts of problems. I religiously upgrade and update my system using Aptitude - especially before adding new software. Good. What is a paquet?. VirtualBox is obviously installing 32 bit headers but since this is the only program that I am aware of that does this, what is the problem? The problem is that the 32 bit kernel modules that are compiled with it will not work with your 64 bit kernel. As be seen for your icedove version, it's not the only thing that is installed in 32 bit versions. Another comment on the above and the Mozilla User Agent comment: I am sure that much of the software in the Wheezy distro is not 64 bit software ( Mozilla included) and usually co-exists nicely with the 64 bit system. Only a very tiny amount of software is not available in 64 bit version. Nice idea about using the VirtualBox:amd64 program but no joy. The program requires a 64 bit version of a Python library that is not included in the distro. Somebody needs to correct this. Again, tell the whole story. Which library? What is the output of apt-get ? If amd64 included in dpkg --print-foreign-architecture ? Any ideas will be sincerely appreciated. I really need to get this problem solved. Gary R. Based on the incomplete information you have given: You will either have to either : - find a way the install 64 bit virtualbox, with 64 bit kernel modules on your 32 installation with 64 bit kernel - downgrade your kernel to 32 bit, so that it matches the rest of your architecture: linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae - Reinstall as a pure 64 bit system - Reinstall as a pure 32 bit system -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140517102729.426d0...@orac.fil
Re: latest sendmail on testing
On Sat, 17 May 2014 12:07:56 -0400 Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Recent install of jessie as vbox guest vm on win 7 64bit Preferring sendmail to exim I installed the testing package for sendmail and of course that uninstalled a few things, including exim. So, my first run at sendmail , just starting the service # service sendmail start [] Starting Mail Transport Agent (MTA): sendmailcan not chdir(/var/spool/clientmqueue/): No such file or directory Warning: Cannot use HostStatusDirectory = /var/lib/sendmail/host_status: No such file or directory I would have thought the install of a pkg would also create any needed directories for the pkg to operate. Is it normal for user to create these things? No, it's not normal. The post-install scripts should create a working initial configuration where it at least starts up. Try reinstalling with the --reinstall option. apt-get install sendmail --reinstall apt-get install sendmail-base --reinstall apt-get install sendmail-bin --reinstall Does that give any errors ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140517212752.236ac...@orac.fil
Re: Vertualbox installation errors
On Sat, 17 May 2014 12:34:12 -0700 Gary Roach gary719_li...@verizon.net wrote: On 05/17/2014 11:04 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 17 mai 14, 10:29:43, Gary Roach wrote: On 05/17/2014 08:49 AM, Tom Furie wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 08:23:07AM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: Sorry, I thought I had. --print-architecture = i386, --print-foreign-architectures = amd64 And there it is - you are running a 32-bit system with a 64-bit kernel. Cheers, Tom And how do I correct this? Simple: install linux-image-686-pae, which will pull in the current kernel for your release. Complicated: reinstall using Debian amd64. Note: All of my source.list entries are prefaced with [arch=amd64,i386]. This is not really necessary unless you want to use different sources per arch (which is not your case, you're using the same sources). Kind regards, Andrei I think we have a misunderstanding here. I am running a 64 bit system. While I can boot to the linux-image-686-pae kernel, this will set up a 32 bit OS which is not what I want. I'm running an Intel DP55KG board with an i5-750, 4 core 64 bit buss processor and would like to use the full capability of the board. If the software is thinking that I am running a 32 bit system, then something desperately needs correcting. But what? Gary R. To get a full 64 bit system, reinstall from an amd64 installation medium. There are no shortcuts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140517214543.5b464...@orac.fil
Re: systemd situation in Jesssie
On Sat, 17 May 2014 22:45:53 +0300 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Sb, 17 mai 14, 20:20:28, Erwan David wrote: I do not know, I check at upgrade time. And Is there somewhere a migaration doc explaining what to do to replace invoke-rc.d, invoke-rc.d is only meant for scripts, you should be using service (which works fine with both initscripts and systemd). policy-rc.d, What are you using it for? how to get logs (because of journald), etc... Not sure what you mean here, logging works just as it used to. Yes, journald is set up to forward to syslog, so you can continue to use the logs in /var/log as before. Unless you create directory /var/log/journal the binary log will only be kept in memory. You can still view it with journalctl. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140517221841.7d3cf...@orac.fil
Re: latest sendmail on testing
On Sat, 17 May 2014 17:08:10 -0400
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote:
Filip fi...@fbvnet.be writes:
[...]
I would have thought the install of a pkg would also create any
needed directories for the pkg to operate.
Is it normal for user to create these things?
No, it's not normal. The post-install scripts should create a
working initial configuration where it at least starts up.
Try reinstalling with the --reinstall option.
apt-get install sendmail --reinstall
apt-get install sendmail-base --reinstall
apt-get install sendmail-bin --reinstall
Does that give any errors ?
It gives the same errors I saw when I first installed sendmail.
I didn't even mention them in my OP since it was easy enough to fix
(more below on that)
These are not the errors I posted about.
Its not the actual installation but the part when `make' is run in
/etc/mail I think.
But have included the full output at the end since I don't know enough
to know what might help:
---- ---=--- -
When I saw these comments below the first time, I just moved the lines
indicated in sendmail.mc and reran `make'.
But those other errors, the ones I posted about concerning missing
directories in /etc/lib/sendamil and /var/spool/ do not come up until
you actually start trying to use sendmail.
Attempting to make things easy for someone to help... I'm putting here
what I think are the only actual errors and fuller output below:
[...]
Creating /etc/mail/sendmail.cf...
*** ERROR: FEATURE() should be before MAILER()
*** MAILER(`local') must appear after FEATURE(`always_add_domain')***
ERROR: FEATURE() should be before MAILER() *** MAILER(`local') must
appear after FEATURE(`allmasquerade')*** ERROR: FEATURE() should be
before MAILER() [...]
---- ---=--- -
Full ouput:
Preparing to unpack .../sendmail-bin_8.14.4-5_i386.deb ...
Unpacking sendmail-bin (8.14.4-5) over (8.14.4-5) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.6.7.1-1) ...
Setting up sendmail-bin (8.14.4-5) ...
update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of
alternative /usr/lib/sm.bin/sendmail because link group sendmail-mta
is broken update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of
alternative /usr/lib/sm.bin/sendmail because link group sendmail-msp
is broken Saving old /etc/mail/sendmail.cf
as /etc/mail/sendmail.cf.old ... [ ok ] Stopping Mail Transport Agent
(MTA): sendmail. Updating sendmail environment ... Reading
configuration from /etc/mail/sendmail.conf. Validating configuration.
Writing configuration to /etc/mail/sendmail.conf.
Writing /etc/cron.d/sendmail. Reading configuration
from /etc/mail/sendmail.conf. Validating configuration.
Writing configuration to /etc/mail/sendmail.conf.
Writing /etc/cron.d/sendmail.
Could not open /etc/mail/databases(No such file or directory),
creating it. Reading configuration from /etc/mail/sendmail.conf.
Validating configuration.
Creating /etc/mail/databases...
Checking filesystem, this may take some time - it will not hang!
... Done.
Checking for installed MDAs...
sasl2-bin not installed, not configuring sendmail support.
To enable sendmail SASL2 support at a later date, invoke
/usr/share/sendmail/update_auth
Creating/Updating SSL(for TLS) information
Creating /etc/mail/tls/starttls.m4...
You already have sendmail certificates
*** *** *** WARNING *** WARNING *** WARNING *** WARNING *** *** ***
Everything you need to support STARTTLS (encrypted mail transmission
and user authentication via certificates) is installed and configured
but is *NOT* being used.
To enable sendmail to use STARTTLS, you need to:
1) Add this line to /etc/mail/sendmail.mc and optionally
to /etc/mail/submit.mc:
include(`/etc/mail/tls/starttls.m4')dnl
2) Run sendmailconfig
3) Restart sendmail
Checking {sendmail,submit}.mc and related databases...
Reading configuration from /etc/mail/sendmail.conf.
Validating configuration.
Creating /etc/mail/databases...
Reading configuration from /etc/mail/sendmail.conf.
Validating configuration.
Creating /etc/mail/databases...
Reading configuration from /etc/mail/sendmail.conf.
Validating configuration.
Creating /etc/mail/Makefile...
Reading configuration from /etc/mail/sendmail.conf.
Validating configuration.
Writing configuration to /etc/mail/sendmail.conf.
Writing /etc/cron.d/sendmail.
Disabling HOST statistics file(/var/lib/sendmail/host_status).
Creating /etc/mail/sendmail.cf...
*** ERROR: FEATURE() should be before MAILER()
*** MAILER(`local') must appear after FEATURE(`always_add_domain')***
ERROR: FEATURE() should be before MAILER() *** MAILER(`local') must
appear after FEATURE(`allmasquerade')*** ERROR: FEATURE() should be
before MAILER() Creating /etc/mail/submit.cf...
Informational: confCR_FILE file empty: /etc/mail/relay-domains
Informational
Re: Vertualbox installation errors
On Thu, 15 May 2014 08:43:01 -0700 Gary Roach gary719_li...@verizon.net wrote: Note: I am running an Intel i5-750 processor and Wheezy with uname -a giving: Linux supercrunch 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.57-3+deb7u1 x86_64 GNU/Linux . . . Processing triggers for menu ... Setting up libgsoap2 (2.8.7-2) ... Setting up virtualbox (4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u3) ... [ ok ] Stopping VirtualBox kernel modules. [] Starting VirtualBox kernel modules[] No suitable module for running kernel found [FA failed! failed! I'm obviously using the standard Debian packaging system for installation and the recommended additional installation packages are being installed, but the headers that are being installed are for a 32 bit processor while I have a 64 bit installation. Could that be the problem. So what am I doing wrong. Gary R. You have the following User-Agent header in your e-mail: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/24.5.0 Look carefully, Linux i686 on x86_64. So it would seem you're not on a 100% 64bit installation. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140515181800.1a5fc...@orac.fil
Re: Vertualbox installation errors
On Thu, 15 May 2014 08:43:01 -0700 Gary Roach gary719_li...@verizon.net wrote: Note: I am running an Intel i5-750 processor and Wheezy with uname -a giving: Linux supercrunch 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.57-3+deb7u1 x86_64 GNU/Linux . . . Processing triggers for menu ... Setting up libgsoap2 (2.8.7-2) ... Setting up virtualbox (4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u3) ... [ ok ] Stopping VirtualBox kernel modules. [] Starting VirtualBox kernel modules[] No suitable module for running kernel found [FA failed! failed! I'm obviously using the standard Debian packaging system for installation and the recommended additional installation packages are being installed, but the headers that are being installed are for a 32 bit processor while I have a 64 bit installation. Could that be the problem. So what am I doing wrong. Gary R. What does $ dpkg --print-architecture $ dpkg --print-foreign-architecture say ? I suspect that you are on multiarch and your default architecture is i386, but you kernel is amd64. In that case try if: $ apt-get install virtualbox:amd64 works. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140515193804.410cb...@orac.fil
Re: Font rendering (was:Can't login to Xfce after reboot in Debian 7.5)
On Fri, 16 May 2014 00:29:22 +0600 Muntasim Ul Haque tranjees...@inventati.org wrote: Also, is there any better alternative to Infinality for Debian. I want better font rendering. The default font rendering is bad. Also changing the anti-aliasing and other doesn't make a big difference. -Muntasim Ul Haque / / Font rendering is all a matter of taste, and it also varies from monitor to monitor. All I can say is my fonts don't look any worse on Debian compared to other distributions. I have customized the following ~/.fonts.conf and I'm happy with it. I don't have the Microsoft fonts installed so I use appropriate font substitutions: ?xml version='1.0'? !DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM 'fonts.dtd' fontconfig match target=font edit mode=assign name=rgba constrgb/const /edit /match match target=font edit mode=assign name=hinting booltrue/bool /edit /match match target=font edit mode=assign name=hintstyle consthintslight/const /edit /match dir~/.fonts/dir match target=font edit mode=assign name=antialias booltrue/bool /edit /match match target=font edit mode=assign name=lcdfilter constlcddefault/const /edit /match match target=pattern test name=family qual=any stringHelvetica/string /test edit name=family mode=prepend binding=same stringLiberation Sans/string /edit /match match target=pattern test name=family qual=any stringArial/string /test edit name=family mode=prepend binding=same stringLiberation Sans/string /edit /match match target=pattern test name=family qual=any stringTimes New Roman/string /test edit name=family mode=prepend binding=same stringLiberation Serif/string /edit /match match target=pattern test name=family qual=any stringGeorgia/string /test edit name=family mode=prepend binding=same stringDejaVu Serif/string /edit /match match target=pattern test name=family qual=any stringVerdana/string /test edit name=family mode=prepend binding=same stringDejaVu Sans/string /edit /match /fontconfig Some, but not all applications use the X resources for Xft settings, and seem to ignore .fonts.conf, so, set those too. ~/.Xresources gets automatically read by the default X session scripts in /etc/X11, if your setup is standard. Xft.antialias: 1 Xft.autohint: 0 Xft.dpi:96 Xft.hinting:1 Xft.hintstyle: hintslight Xft.lcdfilter: lcddefault Xft.rgba: rgb If you use something like Gnome, it will bluntly overwrite the X resources with settings of it's own though. KDE may do bad things like that too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140515211401.2c51f...@orac.fil
Re: No suspend-to-disk with kde
On Tue, 13 May 2014 18:39:43 +0200 Hans hans.ullr...@loop.de wrote: Hi folks, I am looking for a problem in KDE. Problem: I cannot suspend to disk in KDE from the menu. The button exists, but has no effekt. Suspend-to-ram is working well in KDE. On the other hand the commands hibernate-disk and hibernate-ram as root are working well. In the big desktop environments, suspend and hibernate is triggered by sending a request via dbus to upowerd. You can simulate it on the command line with: $ dbus-send --print-reply --system \ --dest=org.freedesktop.UPower \ /org/freedesktop/UPower\ org.freedesktop.UPower.Hibernate UPower doesn't do the actual hibernate but in it's turn has to forward the request to a backend, which could be pm-suspend (from pm-utils), or systemd-logind, or maybe something else. There is so many layers where things can go wrong. Those developers of big bloated desktop environments sure like to make things ugly and complex, when they could be simple and straightforward. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140514231039.35c8f...@orac.fil
Re: Debian Linux 7 and Realtek soundcards
On Tue, 13 May 2014 13:55:04 +1000 Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: $ lspci | grep audio Use instead: $ lspci | grep -i audio Why? Why when searching for audio would you need case-insensitive?? Multimedia *audio* controller An extra three keystrokes for no gain. Extra noise, no signal. $ lspci |grep audio $ lspci |grep -i audio 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller (rev 06) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04) And there are even sound cards where the string audio isn't in the description. example: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0ccd:0077 TerraTec Electronic GmbH Aureon Dual USB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140513081619.6a951...@orac.fil
Re: Can't get Apache to display a directory
On Mon, 12 May 2014 20:16:39 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote: I recently upgraded a back-end server from wheezy to jessie, and with the upgrade, Apache went from 2.2 to 2.4. There are a lot of changes to Apache between 2.2 and 2.4, especially in the area of authentications, authorizations, snip Basically, I want a configuration that allows all users to view all documents and all directories under /var/www/html. I don't want to have to define userids or passwords. No authentication of users will be done. Query your favorite search engine for Upgrading apache from 2.2 to 2.4 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140513084826.63ba2...@orac.fil
Re: kernel security upgrade bollixed need help
On Mon, 12 May 2014 20:34:37 -0600 Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote: I was responding to a recently received security message about the linux kernel in Wheezy. I thought I had things configured so that the repaired kernel would come from the security repository automagically, but ... It did appear to be downloading a new kernel and installing it, but when it finished nothing appeared to have been changed. I can't retry because my system appears to have set flags that the upgrade has been done. but there are no new files in /boot or updated symlinks in /. I installed the security update last night. This is what it looks like (after reboot): $ ls -l / |grep boot drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 May 12 16:53 boot lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root30 Apr 5 12:37 initrd.img - /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-4-amd64 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root26 Apr 5 12:37 vmlinuz - boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64 $ ls -l /boot total 15032 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 129206 May 12 11:42 config-3.2.0-4-amd64 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 12 16:53 grub -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10276510 May 12 16:53 initrd.img-3.2.0-4-amd64 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2111641 May 12 11:42 System.map-3.2.0-4-amd64 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2838176 May 12 11:42 vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64 $ strings /vmlinuz|grep deb7u1 3.2.0-4-amd64 (debian-ker...@lists.debian.org) #1 SMP Debian 3.2.57-3+deb7u1 After reboot: $ uname -v #1 SMP Debian 3.2.57-3+deb7u1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140513090418.0b5b9...@orac.fil
Re: Debian Linux 7 and Realtek soundcards
On Tue, 13 May 2014 16:55:43 +1000 Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: Why? Why when searching for audio would you need case-insensitive?? Multimedia *audio* controller An extra three keystrokes for no gain. Extra noise, no signal. $ lspci |grep audio $ lspci |grep -i audio 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller (rev 06) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04) That would be a good reason :) Except that I can't reproduce your results, or understand how they're relevant to Brett's question :( Curious... Are you running Debian Linux? Which release? pciutils 1:3.1.9-6 Debian Jessie, pciutils 1:3.1.9-6. HP hardware. It all depends on the hardware ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140513091226.197b5...@orac.fil
Re: Debian Linux 7 and Realtek soundcards
On Sun, 11 May 2014 14:53:06 +0800 (WST) Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: I am therefore wondering whether, somewhere, packages exist (.deb packages, that make installation relatively easy for those of us not skilled in the black arts), for the hardware drivers that may be on the firmware ISO's. Firmware is not the same as driver. Firmware is code that needs the be present in the hardware device itself. Sometimes this firmware is build to the device and sometimes the driver needs to load the firmware into the device each time. The driver on the other is part of the kernel. So, the fact that sound doesn't work can be because of a missing driver instead of missing firmware. If this is new hardware, there is a chance that the kernel in the stable release doesn't have a driver for your soundcard. You can try to upgrade your kernel to a more recent versions from backports (see backports.debian.org). If it still doesn't work, check $ lsusb | grep -i audio to get more details on what sound card is installed. Then you can do a targeted search for that card. I do not know whether the firmware ISO's allow a user to choose which desktop environment is installed, You don't need the sound during the installation, so there is no need to use the firmware iso just for that. If it was your network card that wasn't working, it's another matter, as it's hard to do a netinstall without net :), which is why there is a netinstall iso with firmware. and the procedure that I found, for dealing with the .tar.bz files from the Realtek web site, seem too complicated. That's almost never needed. In Linux, the drivers are integrated in the kernel. You can never just install a binary driver from a separate site like you do on windows. If there is a separate driver, it will be a source patch which has to be recompiled specifically for the kernel you are running. So, in short, just try if a more recent kernel fixes it first. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140511105519.1f187...@orac.fil
Re: Cron 101: Cron message /bin/sh: root: command not found
On Sun, 11 May 2014 10:37:31 +0100 Ron Leach ronle...@tesco.net wrote: I'm missing some aspect of cron configuration, or perhaps some other cron file somewhere. root doesn't have a /home directory, so there isn't a crontab in it, and the only user existing on the system doesn't have a crontab in its home directory, either. Look in /var/spool/cron/crontabs. That is the location of the per-user crontabs. If someone copied the line 17 * * * * rootcd / run-parts--report /etc/cron.hourly in there, you would get the error you mentioned, because root will be interpretet as the command to run, because these crontabs have a different format. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140511124340.7ef7a...@orac.fil
Re: Cron 101: Cron message /bin/sh: root: command not found
On Sun, 11 May 2014 12:07:47 +0100 Ron Leach ronle...@tesco.net wrote: Filip, the comment suggests that I shouldn't edit this file here. Do you have any idea where, or what, its 'master' version might be? The correct way to edit the per-user crontabs it with # crontab -u user -e -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140511131352.29880...@orac.fil
Re: you don\u2019t know if you don\u2019t ask
On Sun, 11 May 2014 12:23:19 +0100
Sharon Kimble boudic...@skimble.plus.com wrote:
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz writes:
--8---cut here---start-8---
locale
LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=en_GB:en
LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_TIME=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_MONETARY=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_PAPER=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_NAME=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_GB.UTF-8
--8---cut here---end---8---
Sharon.
And 'locale -a' also shows en_GB.UTF-8 ?
Does the problem only occur when you paste into emacs ?
Is there something special in your .emacs file ? Try starting emacs
without init file ('emacs -q').
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Re: Can't boot after harddrive replacement
On Sun, 11 May 2014 22:38:20 +0300 Itay Furman it...@fastmail.fm wrote: I guess the output of mount above shows that there is a problem with the file system(s) and devices. Nevertheless, I also believe that I have problems with the bootloader. When you boot the installation DVD, there is an option 'rescue mode' in the initial menu that comes up. Look under 'advanced options'. Have you tried that ? Follow through the steps, and you will get a menu where you have two options that should help you: - reinstall the bootloader - 'start a shell in the installer environment'. This will set up the chroot environment for you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140511222535.5e41f...@orac.fil
Re: policykit and systemd
On Sat, 10 May 2014 13:02:17 +0200 Slavko li...@slavino.sk wrote: iuA policykit-1 piA libpam-systemd piA systemd E.g. policykit is updated and libpam-systemd and systemd installed as dependencies. There is not installation of the systemd-sysv (it is not installed yet of course)... regards Policykit used to depend on consolekit to keep track of the user sessions, but consolekit is not maintained anymore and that functionality has been moved into systemd-logind. This is similar to how dbus has been part of systemd for a long time now. This is not related to systemd being used as the init system or not. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140510135246.5ce79e69@mycroft
Re: Default supported service manager in Wheezy
On Fri, 09 May 2014 17:24:13 +1000 Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/05/14 16:19, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: Hi all, A long time ago, when I was young ;-), services used to be managed with invoke-rc.d ... And starting/stopping is one thing, but especially confusing is, how do you disable/enable a service: insserv -r foo update-rc.d foo disable systemctl disable foo All have subtle differences in behaviour. But which one is correct ? You could say, systemctl on systemd and update-rc.d on sysv-init, but is that true ? Should insserv ever be used direcly or is this a low level tool used by the others ? The man page seems to suggest that: insserv is a low level tool used by update-rc.d which enables an installed system init script and also: -r, --remove Remove the listed scripts from all runlevels. ^^^ Yet this wiki tell me to use insserv: https://wiki.debian.org/Daemon?highlight=%28insserv%29#Enabling_daemons ? And insserv -r now seems to only remove the service from the default runlevel instead all all runlevels. Quoting the wiki: To disable a daemon at its default runlevels, execute ^^^ If insserv -r removes the link, is there a chance will it get silently recreated when dpkg updates or reinstalls the package ? That would be one reason not to use it. So yeah, it raises many questions. For me at least ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140509102236.764c50e5@mycroft
Re: Default supported service manager in Wheezy
On Fri, 9 May 2014 10:22:36 +0200 Filip fi...@fbvnet.be wrote: If insserv -r removes the link, is there a chance will it get silently recreated when dpkg updates or reinstalls the package ? That would be one reason not to use it. So, I did a test. insserv -r does delete the link in all runlevels. And a subsequent apt-get install --reinstall recreates the link, and in doing so it gets silently reenabled. With update-rc.d, the link is renamed from S... to K.., and apt-get install --reinstall recognizes it as a configuration file and leaves it alone, which is as it should be. My conclusion: if you don't want the services that you thought you had disabled to be re-enabled behind you back when you run an upgrade, don't use insserv -r as the wiki page tell you to, use update-rc.d, at least for sysvinit. But then, what about a system that boots with systemd. systemctl or update-rc.d ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140509112320.60e0221f@mycroft
Re: How to go back to sysvinit (was: Re: systemd-fsck?)
On Fri, 09 May 2014 13:09:24 +0200 Ansgar Burchardt ans...@debian.org wrote: Installed packages: ii libpam-systemd:amd64 204-10 ii libsystemd-daemon0:amd64 204-10 ii libsystemd-id128-0:amd64 204-10 ii libsystemd-journal0:amd64 204-10 ii libsystemd-login0:amd64 204-10 ii systemd 204-10 ii systemd-sysv 204-10 ii sysvinit 2.88dsf-53 ii initscripts2.88dsf-53 ii sysv-rc2.88dsf-53 Which ones can I safely remove when going back to sysvinit? You need to replace systemd-sysv with sysvinit-core. # apt-get install sysvinit-core systemd-sysv- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140509170857.58faf07b@mycroft
Re: Hibernate doesn't work (Wheezy, GNOME Shell)
On Sat, 10 May 2014 05:25:03 +0800 A Debian User deb...@openmailbox.org wrote: Hello all! When I click on the account menu on the upper left and click on Hibernate, the screen just goes blank. It stays blank for ages. Does it work when you run 'hibernate' from a shell prompt ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140510074611.3b617...@orac.fil
Re: /etc/modules not loading b43
On Tue, 06 May 2014 17:46:29 -0500 Kent West we...@acu.edu wrote: How can I get the module to load at startup instead of me having to manually modprobe it every time? Thanks! Try this: - On a freshly booted system, run modprobe -v b43 - Add the printed modules in /etc/modules the same order as listed - reboot - If it doesn't work look in dmesg for any error messages for these modules -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140507080154.64502...@orac.fil
Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
On Sun, 04 May 2014 21:18:14 -0400 Theodore Alcapotaxis theota...@mail.com wrote: Safe from what? from whom? It's not safe from spying eyes. If you run a tool like bleachbit, you may think that you have deleted all your history, but at first sight the version shipped by Debian doesn't delete the Zeitgeist database. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140505080804.647a8...@orac.fil
Re: How do I mount under /run from /etc/fstab in 7.0/wheezy?
On Mon, 5 May 2014 12:58:34 -0600 Jacob Anawalt jlanaw...@gmail.com wrote: Is it a bug that fstab mounts under /run fail? Is there a hook in some other config to make them work? Is it always a bad idea to mount under /run? I would like to understand that. Then I will have more options when I pop the stack and return to Y and my learning won't be sidetracked with a case based only on Y. Thank you, /run is a ram based filesystem, so there is no persistence of data after a reboot. When you mount something from fstab, the mount point directory must already exist. Unless something earlier in the bootprocess executed an mkdir to create the mountpoint, it will not exist and your mount will fail. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140505221227.1d7e9...@orac.fil
Re: Mailman-issue *mailinglist loops back to myself
On Tue, 6 May 2014 00:21:28 +0200 Anton Mueller an...@am-news.eu wrote: The server returns *mailinglist* loops back to me I think that misconfigured something. When an MTA gives an error message like that, it usually means that it doesn't recognize that the e-mail should processed for local delivery, and it sends tries to send it to a remote destination, which doesn't work as the destination is actually itself. Most likely, you have configure postfix so that it correctly recognizes its own domains for which it has to deliver locally. I use exim myself, and I can only guess how exactly this should be done in postfix. I would check the parameters 'mydomain', 'myhostname', 'mydestination'. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140506010615.7077f...@orac.fil
Re: WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /home/username/.cache/keyring-XXXXXX/pkcs11: No such file or directory
On Sat, 3 May 2014 22:15:27 -0600 Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote: I'm running Wheezy and using xfce4. Aptitude shows no sign of 'mate-*' packages mentioned above. I wonder how this could be ..., probably an error on my part... but what? Wheezy is the stable release, so the Mate packages will not be available there anytime soon. Package updates are only for security patches and bugfixes there. There are some Mate packages in sid and testing though: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=matesearchon=namessuite=allsection=all Which means that there is a good chance that Mate will be included in the next release. The Mate developers also provide some .deb packages of their own, and these are targeted for Wheezy. But these are not part of the official Debian repositories. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140504083712.29fcc...@orac.fil
Re: Question about wheezy-backports
On Sat, 3 May 2014 23:28:22 -0600 Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote: Is there also a simple list of backported debs that I can browse on the web to know what is available, or a wiki pointer? I'd rather not subscribe to another list and monitor it regularly just for the very rare occation when I actually need a backport. TIA For a list of all the packages in the backports repository: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/allpackages When you have the repository in /etc/apt/sources.list, and you want to check if there is a newer version of a particular package, use apt-cache policy package name You may need to run 'apt-get update' first to sync the package indexes if you don't upgrade often. Once you have installed a package from backports, updates to that backport will be automatic though. You only need to explicitly specify the backports target for the initial update from stable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140504091239.008d3...@orac.fil
Re: [multiarch] easy fix for interarchitectural package conflict?
On Sun, 04 May 2014 17:10:28 -0400 Tom Roche tom_ro...@pobox.com wrote: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/05/msg00291.html [Tom Roche Sun, 04 May 2014 16:04:30 -0400] me@it ~ $ inxi -r Repos: Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list deb http://packages.linuxmint.com debian main upstream import deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/ testing main contrib non-free deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/security testing/updates main contrib non-free deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest/multimedia testing main non-free deb http://extra.linuxmint.com debian main me@it ~ $ sudo aptitude -s install icedtea-7-plugin:i386 ... The following packages have unmet dependencies: libgif4 : Conflicts: libgif4:i386 but 4.1.6-10 is to be installed. libgif4:i386 : Conflicts: libgif4 but 4.1.6-10 is installed. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/05/msg00294.html [Sven Joachim Sun, 04 May 2014 22:21:45 +0200] [you have an] older version of libgif4 than the one in jessie/sid[, since] Multiarch support was enabled in 4.1.6-11 back in December 2013. So how to get a multiarch version of libgif4? My guess is, the sequence 1. add a repository 2. update packages 3. update package=libgif4:i386 4. install package=icedtea-7-plugin:i386 5. remove repository ... is that correct? If so, which repo to add? My guess is deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free No? TIA, Tom Roche tom_ro...@pobox.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140504234623.4b7b4...@orac.fil
Re: [multiarch] easy fix for interarchitectural package conflict?
On Sun, 04 May 2014 17:10:28 -0400 Tom Roche tom_ro...@pobox.com wrote: ... is that correct? If so, which repo to add? My guess is deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free No? TIA, Tom Roche tom_ro...@pobox.com At this point, you should install the non-standard browser in a virtual machine with a 32 bit version of debian stable. When it's installed, create a script with that uses ssh X forwarding with (ssh -X) to transparently run it on the desktop of your host system. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140504235529.266b7...@orac.fil
Re: `ls` shows file, `bash` says No such file ???
On Fri, 02 May 2014 22:25:34 -0400 Tom Roche tom_ro...@pobox.com wrote: For background on my problem (and why I very much need to solve it), see http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=190t=166506p=855700#p855700 But the essence of the problem appears to be me@it ~ $ /usr/local/share/firefox-3.6.28/firefox-bin bash: /usr/local/share/firefox-3.6.28/firefox-bin: No such file or directory [127]me@it ~ $ lsalh /usr/local/share/firefox-3.6.28/firefox-bin -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 44K Mar 6 2012 /usr/local/share/firefox-3.6.28/firefox-bin Try the following: file /usr/local/share/firefox-3.6.28/firefox-bin ldd /usr/local/share/firefox-3.6.28/firefox-bin The first command will tell you what kind of file it is, and the second will list the shared libraries that it is linked to (assuming it actually is a dynamically linked executable). This is a completely non-standard installion, and my guess is that the dynamic linker doesn't have the path to the libraries. Look in /etc/ld.so.conf and /etc/ld.so.conf.d what path names are configured in the dynamic linker. You probably need to add a new path with the location the non-standard firefox libraries. Try to find where the libraries are installed (somewhere under /usr/local/share maybe ?), and create a new .conf file in /etc/ld.so.conf.d After that, run ldconfig -v to rebuild to ld.so cache. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140503081010.5d5fd...@orac.fil
Re: `ls` shows file, `bash` says No such file ???
On Sat, 03 May 2014 08:27:48 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: If the OP should add /usr/local/share/firefox-3.6.28/ to a file in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ the libraries likely will conflict with regular libraries. I don't expect this. Multiple architectures can coexist, and libraries are versioned. If it worries you, you can also set the library location temporarily with in environment variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH instead. $ export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/path/to/libraries:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140503094649.7560e...@orac.fil
Re: icedove strange language behaviour
On Sat, 03 May 2014 10:14:56 +0200 François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr wrote: On every opened window everything is in French (fichier, Edition, Affichage... etc.) except for icedove which is in English on only one user account (on other accounts, icedove is in French). Where does icedove reads its language config on a user account? The iceweasel language package (iceweasel-l10n-fr for French) needs to be installed. Go to about:config, and check the following settings: general.useragent.locale intl.locale.matchOS intl.locale.matchOS is true by default, which means it takes the settings from the environment variables. If false, it takes the setting from general.useragent.locale. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140503111558.389df...@orac.fil
Re: icedove strange language behaviour
On Sat, 03 May 2014 11:29:43 +0200 François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr wrote: Yes! And this problem concerns ice*dove* not ice*weasel* Ok, then the language package is icedove-l10n-fr. The settings for icedove are the same as for iceweasel. Instead of about:config, go to the 'advanced' tab and select 'config editor'. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140503125257.254d8...@orac.fil
Re: icedove strange language behaviour
On Sat, 03 May 2014 13:49:27 +0200 François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr wrote: Le 03/05/2014 12:52, filip a écrit : On Sat, 03 May 2014 11:29:43 +0200 François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr wrote: I went to Language in the extension menu and I could see Français Language pack is disabled version 3.1.1195 in incompatible with icedove 24. icedove-l10n-fr is installed and seems to provide a wrong version of the French language pack or icedove read this language pack from elsewhere (but where?) and this override the icedove-l10n-fr I don't know! How can I find this? What does 'apt-cache policy icedove-l10n-fr' say ? The correct version is provided by the security update repository (1:24.3.0-1~deb7u1) If that is ok, there is probably an old version left over in the user profile that is masking the system-wide package. Try starting with a blank profile: quit icedove if it is still running $ mv .icedove icedove.saved $ icedove It will then start with the defaults. If you get the user interface in French, the extension will need to be purged from the profile. (check here:http://kb.mozillazine.org/Uninstalling_add-ons) To restore the user profile, exit icedove, and put back the original directory. $ rm -r .icedove $ cp -rp icedove.saved .icedove -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140503145811.2d6c9...@orac.fil
Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments
On Sat, 3 May 2014 10:53:51 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: If networking in d-i had been set up to use wifi the assumption breaks down as, without a DE, there is no connectivity for the booted system. This would most likely leave an inexperienced user completely stuck. There are many places where an inexperienced user can become stuck. It's an opportunity to become an experienced user. Even an experienced user might find it frustrating to have to deal with /etc/network/interfaces at this stage. Do not be afraid of /etc/network/interfaces ;-) In that case, just plug it in to the wired network, and make sure the following lines are uncommented in /etc/network/interfaces allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp and run: service networking stop service networking start The time to get frustrated, is when the interface doesn't come up because the card is not supported by the kernel ;-) The benefit of not selecting a desktop task at the start of the install or accepting the Debian default DE during the install is unclear. It implies the user is experienced enough to know where they are going; You are correct, I am an experienced user who knows where he is going. I like to do it in stages. First get the operating system installed, and worry about the applications afterwards. Otherwise, you can waste a lot of time waiting for the application packages to install, and then discover that you made a mistake during installation and it doesn't boot. the objective might be apt-get install xfce4, which gives a different set of packages from apt-get install task-xfce-desktop. tasks-xfce-desktop is a meta package that includes xfce, and also a set of additional packages that are typically used on a desktop system, like libreoffice and iceweasel. Also, I'm not sure if package xfce will install a display manager for you. The desktop task packages do. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140503151104.06e9e...@orac.fil
Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments
On Sat, 3 May 2014 15:31:52 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: I can think of better ways of forcing experience on someone. I'm not forcing anything on anyone. I'm just sharing what works consistently for me. You can do it in whatever way that makes you happy. The Xfce4 metapackage doesn't install a DM or libreoffice or iceweasel. Which is exactly, why I recommended to install task-xfce-desktop instead. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140503165624.33217...@orac.fil
Re: OT: Upgrade debacle........
On Fri, 02 May 2014 09:11:03 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: Alternatively I run su or sudo -i and than continue using commands without sudo. sudo -s is probably a better than sudo -i, if you want the current directory to remain the same. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140502093507.3fa66106@mycroft
Re: jigdo have 10 DVDs, and HTTP/FTP only 3
On Fri, 02 May 2014 15:12:05 +0200 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: What is the content difference between jigdo and http ISOs? ( I know what is jigdo and how it works, my question is about the content of the ISOs. ) The content of the DVD's can be found here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/7.5.0/amd64/list-dvd/ You can also use the cdimage search tool: http://cdimage-search.debian.org/ With http, you can only download the first three DVD's. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140502154115.1f4b3010@mycroft
Re: Debian 7.x and desktop environments
On Fri, 2 May 2014 15:58:00 +0800 (WST) Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: Also, in case it is needed, is an installable firmware version of Debian 7.5, available with CD/DVD ISO images available, and, if so, does that provide for choosing which desktop environment(s) to install? The official DVD's don't include the non-free firmware binaries, but you can download a separate tarball with the firmware. There is also an not so well advertised netinst image which already includes the firmware here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/7.5.0/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-7.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso I never install the desktop environment from the iso installer. Just install the base system, and after the system had booted, and assuming the network is configured correctly just run aptitude, and go to tasks-End user, and select one of the desktop environments. Or just run one of: apt-get install task-xfce-desktop apt-get install task-gnome-desktop apt-get install task-kde-desktop apt-get install task-lxde-desktop -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140502231530.29bbf...@orac.fil
Re: name resolution
On Thu, 1 May 2014 12:48:47 +0530 L V Gandhi lvgl...@gmail.com wrote: Resolving www.nse-india.com... failed: Name or service not known. wget: unable to resolve host address `www.nse-india.com' If you have the dnsutils package installed in the virtual machine, try looking up the name with dig. Look in /etc/resolv.conf on your host system what name server it uses. Then in the virtual machine, run: (replacing 192.168.1.1 with the actual ip address of the name server) dig @192.168.1.1 www.nse-india.com That should tell you if the name server is accessible at all from the virtual machine, or if there is a routing problem or a firewall that is blocking access. If it's a network problem, you will see something like: ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached It's also possible that name server is restricting the ip addresses from where it allows queries, and your vm is not in the allowed range. In that case, you will get something like this: ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: REFUSED, id: 7248 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available If the dns is working fine, you will get ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 9178 and the list of dns records it found. In that case, you just need to set up /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/nsswitch.conf on the vm. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140501160328.6cb72...@orac.fil
Re: doc-linux-text Not in Wheezy?
On 04/29/2014 12:22 PM, Paul Lane wrote: Searched archive and found nothing regarding any discussion of it being removed. I did find it available for Squeeze. However, as I stated it is not found in the package lists for Wheezy. Has it been renamed, removed, or otherwise squashed? It has been removed. You can find the discussion here: http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/doc-linux.html https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=668078 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/535f7ea2.9070...@fbvnet.be
Re: Shorewall blocks Internet on boot-up
On 04/28/2014 07:15 PM, Charles Kroeger wrote: I'm running a Jessie/ Sid mixture and after a recent dist-upgrade Shorewall blocks all Internet access unless it is 'stopped' and restarted: When shorewall is started, it sets the iptables in the kernel which do the actual work. It's possible that another process is also setting iptables behind shorewall's back. Run iptables -n -L and save the output to a file. When you have the problem again, list the iptables once more and compare the output with the saved version. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/535e9c7e.8050...@fbvnet.be
Re: Jajko z trąbką czyli... ?
Dnia 2010-02-11, czw o godzinie 21:56 +, Jan Wideł pisze: Hej, czym się różni zwykłe jajko od jajka-trunk? w opisie różnicy nic nie ma. Package: linux-image-2.6.32-trunk-amd64 (2.6.32-5) Linux 2.6.32 for 64-bit PCs The Linux kernel 2.6.32 and modules for use on PCs with AMD64 or Intel 64 processors. This kernel also runs on a Xen hypervisor. It supports only unprivileged (domU) operation. Package: linux-image-2.6.32-1-amd64 (2.6.32-6) Package: linux-image-2.6.32-1-amd64 (2.6.32-6) Linux 2.6.32 for 64-bit PCs The Linux kernel 2.6.32 and modules for use on PCs with AMD64 or Intel 64 processors. This kernel also runs on a Xen hypervisor. It supports only unprivileged (domU) operation. Zdaje się, że linux-image-trunk trafił do repozytoriów wcześniej, kiedy jeszcze nie było wydanej stabilnej wersji jajka 2.6.32. Podejrzewam, że w tej chwili trunk będzie wycofywany na rzecz -1- (: signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Gwibber: call for testing
Dnia 2009-07-08, śro o godzinie 20:47 +0700, Rustam pisze: I'm now using 1.2.0 (as you asked), but I couldn't build-dep gwibber since there are missing dependecies I guess. So, I tried the old way by extracting the gwibber_1.2.0+bzr346.orig.tar.gz, but first I must download the python-moko (1.0 doesn't need it). Thank you very much for replying for my call (: Is there a chance that you could provide which specific packages couldn't be satisfied when you tired to build-dep gwibber? -- Filip Chabik deb...@hadret.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Gwibber: call for testing
Hi all!
I hope everybody knows what is Gwibber, and if not, check this site out
[1]. Recently package of that application entered [2] and every Debian
user can install it on his system. Here are links, that might be useful:
- URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/gwibber
- Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable
main contrib non-free
- dget
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/gwibber/gwibber_1.2.0
+bzr346-5.dsc
I'd like to ask everyone of you to try it and test it. It's working fine
for me, but my sponsor have some issues on two different systems. Here
are errors he is encourting:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/gwibber/microblog/__init__.py,
line 51, in get_data
for message in method(client):
File /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/gwibber/microblog/twitter.py,
line 232, in receive
for data in self.get_messages():
File /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/gwibber/microblog/twitter.py,
line 173, in get_messages
urllib.urlencode({count: self.account[receive_count] or 20})))
File /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/gwibber/microblog/twitter.py,
line 168, in connect
url, data, headers = {Authorization: self.get_auth()})).read()
File /usr/lib/python2.5/urllib2.py, line 124, in urlopen
return _opener.open(url, data)
File /usr/lib/python2.5/urllib2.py, line 387, in open
response = meth(req, response)
File /usr/lib/python2.5/urllib2.py, line 498, in http_response
'http', request, response, code, msg, hdrs)
File /usr/lib/python2.5/urllib2.py, line 425, in error
return self._call_chain(*args)
File /usr/lib/python2.5/urllib2.py, line 360, in _call_chain
result = func(*args)
File /usr/lib/python2.5/urllib2.py, line 506, in http_error_default
raise HTTPError(req.get_full_url(), code, msg, hdrs, fp)
HTTPError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
and also [3]. If anybody got it working or not -- please let me know and
also provide some error debug if it is possible.
[1] https://launchpad.net/gwibber
[2] http://mentors.debian.net
[3] http://pastebin.com/m2feffa86
With best wishes
--
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Re: odpowiednik winamp sterowany z www ?
Dnia 2009-07-05, nie o godzinie 12:26 +0200, Marek pisze: konsolowych plajerów jest kilka, chciał bym web, bo opera czy firefox to narzędzie standardowe we windzie i obsługiwane jak całą reszta czyli klikane Ampache może? http://ampache.org/ -- Filip Chabik deb...@hadret.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-polish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: USB-stöd
Kontrollera om din kärna stödjer USB. Det är inte så att Linux saknar USB-stöd, det har funnits länge, men detta är fri mjukvara så modifikationer finns i omlopp. Själv laddade jag ner en CD-bild som jag trodde var officiell men där USB var hackad bort ur kärnan. Har inte uppgraderat än för jag använder inga USB-prylar. On Sun, 4 Dec 2005, Tommy Zackariasson wrote: Hej! En fråga från en glad amatör: Jag får inte mitt usb-minne eller min usb-anslutna webbkamera att fungera i i min nyinstallerade sarge. Om jag kör ett program som heter usbview så finns de listade där, men blir inte monterad vad jag kan se. Misstänker själv att jag måste byta till en nyare kärna (2.6) Hur gör man det på ett risfritt sätt i så fall? Tacksam för svar. /Tommy -- Reclaim Your Inbox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Starting USB in Debian with kernel 26
I have trouble with starting Debian.It starts,normaly load modules for bttv,tuner,audio,pci [success] and then was printed to console usb and then starting not continue.I tried reboot,but,it was still same. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Starting USB in Debian with kernel 26
I have trouble with starting Debian.It starts,normaly load modules for bttv,tuner,audio,pci [success] and then was printed to console usb and then starting not continue.I tried reboot,but,it was still same. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problemy z ssh
Użytkownik Miros/law Baran napisał: 22.06.2005 pisze Radosław Maliborski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): i najlepiej wypelnic go potem zerami... a kolega to przypadakiem niedawno sie z windowsow przesiadl, ze ma takie windowsowe zapedy? w niektorych kregach twierdza ponoc, ze to rozwiazuje kazda pierdolke w windzie... no chyba, ze to jakis domowy serwer, chociaz nie zaszkodzi poweszyc, co i jak kto napsul. Kolega chyba nie ma doświadczenia. W przypadku skompromitowania systemu należy 1) zatrzymać go, 2) zdjąć obrazy dysków do późniejszej analizy 3) wykonać format reinstall -- zwłaszcza jeśli nie zna się dokładnej metody włamania. Do tego jeszcze przywrócić system z backupu, który jak widać na załączonym obrazku ratuje nam życie. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problemy z ucuchomieniem eclipse
Uytkownik JRX napisa: Witam, Witam Do wczoraj nie chciaem zajmowa si Jav, od wczoraj musz zajc si Jav, wic potrzebowaem jakiego rodowiska programistycznego. Wybraem eclipse. JRE miaem ju zainstalowane, razem z wtyczk do firefoxa. Najpierw sprbowaem cign eclipse z repozytorium, ale okazao si, e eclipse zaley od pakietu jre1.4-cotam, ktrego nie mona zainstalowa. Dalej wszedem na www.eclipse.org, cignem eclipse SDK 3.02 i rozpakowaem na dysku. Niestety, jak uruchamiam eclipse pokazuje mi si tylko splashscreen i dostaje raport o bdzie. Do listu zaczony jest log. Czy kto ma pomys, co mogo spowodowa ten bd? cignij ktre SDK (samo JRE nie wystarcza) z http://java.sun.com, zainstaluj i odpal Eclipse'a eclipse -vm /cieka_gdzie_zainstalowae_SDK/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: limit wysylania - apache
Uytkownik Micha Jzefczyk napisa: Witam Witam Jak moge w prosty sposob ograniczyc wysylanie z mojego servera ? Mam jedynie 256 kbps upload i niestety musze ograniczyc jakos wysylanie. Zainteresuj si mod bandwidth do Apache'a* * -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X problem :(
Jag fick det problemet en gång, var tvungen att avinstalera GDM och köra bara i Bash tills jag kom på att musen gått och dött. On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, timebandit wrote: Försökte precis starta X varken mus eller tangentbordet funkade så jag dödade alla processer som hade med X å göra via SSH Nu är bilden helt svart på skärmen till burken... Lyckas inte komma till console eller nått... helt svart Nån som kan ha några idéer att ev. få tillbaks bilden igen utan att starta om burken?
Re: Vilken upgrade skall jag köra
Så här tror jag de flesta gör: För uppgradering till by version, tex från woody -- sarge: dselect eller apt-get dist-upgrade För vanlig uppfräshning av systemet, apt-get upgrade, eller dselect För instalation av paket med känt namn: apt-get install För uppdatering av individuella paket: apt-get upgrade paketet-nils-arne För att reda ut beroendetrassel, eller efter att man instalerat en stor härva av paket: kör dselect en gång. För sökning av paket, dselect Funkar för mig. On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Är rätt färsk på debian. Har tidigare labbat mest med RedHat. Blir inte klok på när man skall köra apt-get upgrade, dist-upgrade eller deselect-upgrade. Körde apt-get upgrade -f -y , fick hem knappt 300 MB uppdateringarå sen loosade jag nätverk, ljud etc. Hur gör jag för att säkrast uppgrada mitt system? Kan man köra upgrade på enskilda paket? / Calle
ignoring dependencies
Hi, everyone. hope I don't bug with an old question, but I couldn't find a satisfactory solution to this problem anywhere. I want to install package A (subversion here), which depends on B (perl) and C (python) for sake of features, I don't need. Those in turn depend on D, E, ... opening up whole a tree of other stuff I don't want to waste my harddisk on (and my mind actually, as I have to consider any piece of software installed for security implications). Now, is there any means to apt-get install A, ignoring it's alleged dependencies to B and C, not affecting it's remaining deps? Any ideas appreciated. thanx, Filip Moritz --- Institute of Electronic Business e.V. Chausseestr. 8 / Aufgang E 10115 Berlin http://www.ieb.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
