Re: /etc/fstab question
Hi, On 11/10/2013 05:28 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 10.11.2013 18:06, Richard Owlett a écrit : Will doing chmod -R 777 /owlett allow all users of any Debian install having the edited /etc/fstab have unrestricted access to all files and folders on that partition? TIA It will, but remember that it will also allow them to change file permissions, and so to remove rights to other users. In my opinion, if you want such kind of partition, the easier solution is to use a partition system which does not have the user right feature. The first one which comes to my mind, is the FAT family. Since you seems to use ext2, you anyway do not have the log feature ( the thing which avoid corrupted files in case of a problem ) so I only see the drawback of file names not doing difference between uppercase and lowercase characters. But, still IMO, this one is more a drawback of ext* partition tables than of FAT, since it is not really natural for me and people I know to differentiate words by the case of their letters*. On the other hand, since you spoke about icons and graphical stuff, I bet that your users are not console users, so they won't be that annoyed. *: and if someone have any clue to allow my terminal to stop bothering me with that damned case difference in file names, I would really be grateful to know it. For now, I simply stop using case when naming files, but it is less readable and is not applicable to other people's files... I tried something similar - without the mount point in /etc/fstab - and found the best options was to create a folder with user=someuser group=somegroup and add the users to that group, and assure the file permissions for group were rw. In /etc/fstab i believe you can specify, in the filesystem option, the owner or the group of the mount point. -- Bandarra LiCo #544119 Enjoy while you can 'cos you'll never know when it'll end -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5280de1a.1040...@gmail.com
Re: Choosing Debian version or derivative to run Wine when resource poor
Hi,
On 10/24/2013 09:53 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
Our church runs a once a week after school program for the children of
a neighboring elementary school { in U.S. education-speak it is a
title 1 - severely underprivileged school}. We run on donated
hardware. Up to now the machines came with misc versions of MS
Windows. A local company will donate several additional machines. Due
to license issues, they will come without Windows. One of their staff
has stated that Linux Mint would be suited for the obsolete hardware
being donated and has volunteered to install it on each of those
machines.
My question:
Is there any reason that a Ubuntu version Mint would be any more
suitable than a custom install of Debian - especially as there is a
choice of kernels?
Question is vague, to a degree intentionally. Where/what should I be
reading?
I don't think anyone suggested, but what about DebianEdu [1]/SkoleLinux [2]?
There target at an educational environment, i believe they can be adapt
to your scenario.
[1] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu
[2] http://www.skolelinux.org
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Re: Debian sid and AMD/ATI Richland [Radeon HD 8670D]
Hi, On 09-10-2013 23:05, MRH wrote: Hi, I'd need some help with ATI GPU. Is it correct that for that processor (AMD A10 6700 - with integrated Radeon HD 8670D) I need flgrx non-free drivers to enjoy 3d support (ie to get Gnome 3 working - at the moment it goes to the fallback mode). I've got xserver-xorg-video-radeon and mesa libraries installed. If I understand correctly, it should change with linux kernel 3.12 which will support this GPU? What should I install? Debian sid, AMD64. Kind regards, Michal I'm sorry but i can't understand if you tried it or just asking? The current kernel at sid is 3.10 and fglrx-driver 13.4, acording with phoronix[1][2][3], the kernel will work, but for the driver it doesn't see to be prepare to the HD8670D but the 13.8 might work [4]. The fglrx-driver 13.8 is in experimental, or perhaps download from amd. Hope it helps! PS: i didn't search in the radeon open source to see if it work with hd8670D. [1]http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=amd_a10_6800knum=2 [2]http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=amd_radeon_hd8670dnum=1 [3]http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=amd_gallium3d_hd8670dnum=1 [4]http://askubuntu.com/questions/50/no-drivers-for-amd-radeon-hd-8750m-or-amd-radeon-hd-8550 -- Bandarra LiCo #544119 Enjoy while you can 'cos you'll never know when it'll end -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/525fe930.7060...@gmail.com
Re: I have an Openoffice question for small business.
Hi, On 08-10-2013 13:10, Ezequiel wrote: Hi all: I am Sysadmin at a small business. We have a complete mail-web-vpn infrastructure and my boss is happy with it. I guess we are a successful case of open software use in the real world But -of course, there is always an issue- my users keep complaining about OpenOffice migration to Libre Office. They even complain if I change OO from 3.2 to 3.3. I believe there were major changes in that version. The question is: Is there any way of freezing OO version indefinetly? I am currently using oldstable OO but I guess my time is going short. What will happen when they release the new version of debian? I don't know what to do... Thanks in advance for any advices. My advice is not the answer to your direct question, someone may help more on that! What i would do is to implement gradually that change, place in one or two computers, probably per department, depending on the size of the company, and let them see and know the major differences, show how to overcome them and see if there is any problems with corporate templates and documents. Them following a schedule that the users know, upgrade the other computers. Can't guarantee full satisfaction but might prevent a riot... that's how i brought to the light some friends to LibreOffice and Linux. Sincerely hope it helps! Zeke PD: My native language is not English, I'm sorry for any mistakes in my writing. -- ¨Como siempre, los ingenieros hicieron un escándalo, aunque terminaron la maniobra en la mitad del tiempo que habían rechazado como imposible¨ -- Bandarra LiCo #544119 Enjoy while you can 'cos you'll never know when it'll end -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5253ffe4.3090...@gmail.com
Re: Choosing among Desktop Enviroments and/or Windows Managers
I didn't explain myself well, now that i have time, i'll see to it. I use Xephyr[1] to create a new X server in the current X host session. Then i launch the application i which to use on the new display. On 18-09-2013 07:49, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 17 Sep 2013, Luis Bandarra wrote: This script it's just a automation for speed things (laziness)! #!/bin/sh # script to start a new server with i3 DISPLAY=:0 Xephyr :1 -ac -br -reset -terminate -screen 1280x1024 2 /dev/null sleep 2 DISPLAY=:1 i3 but you can use just the command line's commands... Hope it helps... I use this: # switch to icewm xinit /home/ac/.xxinitrc -- :1 where ,xxinitrc is a modified version of .xinitrc to run icewm (in this case). I can then switch back and forth between spectrwm and icewm with Ctrl-Alt-Fx. I'm a bit fan of i3 and find it more productive in most cases but in my desktop i run kde it all the pretty eyecandy because i can, so some times when i don't have time i open a terminal in kde and run: $ Xephyr :1 -ac -br -reset -terminate -screen 1280x1024 2 /dev/null # $ DISPLAY=:1 $ i3 In the OP, he can change i3 for whatever i would like. This way he can try WM and DE like just another window with the mouse. I find some tutorial on the internet: - http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-620003.html - http://blog.pesa.se/2009/07/18/experimenting-with-window-managers/ - http://wenlong.wordpress.com/2012/01/08/awesome-xephyr-devils-pie/ - http://www.doublehops.com/tag/xephyr/ [1] - http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/Xephyr/ : Xephyr is a kdrive based X Server which targets a window on a host X Server as its framebuffer. Unlike Xnest it supports modern X extensions ( even if host server doesn't ) such as Composite, Damage, randr etc (no GLX support now). It uses SHM Images and shadow framebuffer updates to provide good performance. It also has a visual debugging mode for observing screen updates. -- __ Bandarra Enjoy while you can 'cos you'll never know when it'll end
Re: Choosing among Desktop Enviroments and/or Windows Managers
On 16-09-2013 22:50, Richard Owlett wrote: Dan Ritter wrote: On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 01:57:54PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: 2. Given that internet is effectively non-existent and internal/external disk space is effectively unlimited, how can I make as many as possible of the DE /or WM on the distribution DVD simply available to experiment with? apt-get install [metapackage name] for each of them. There's no restriction to only having one installed at a time, you know. I hoped/suspected apt-get was the answer. But that why I phrased it in an open ended manner. An implied questions include: how do I switch between them while comparing? In my case, i have a desktop quite powerful for my need, i run KDE just because of the eyecandy, but got used to work with a tiling window manager: i3-wm. So for been more productive in some corner cases, in my X session i run a instance of Xephyr with i3 as window manager (i tested for E17 and it worked also). I have a small script: #!/bin/sh # script to start a new server with i3 DISPLAY=:0 Xephyr :1 -ac -br -reset -terminate -screen 1280x1024 2 /dev/null sleep 2 DISPLAY=:1 i3 but you can use just the command line's commands... Hope it helps... You have a range of options. You could start multiple X servers, and run one on each, simultaneously. You could switch between them via the per-login option in a display manager (xdm, gdm, lightdm...) You could edit your .xinitrc file to start the system that you want, and then run startx from your machine's virtual console. will thy potentially interfere with each other? Only in the sense that only one can have control of your X session at a time. Otherwise, they're very good about ignoring config files that belong to other packages. Thank you. -- __ Bandarra Enjoy while you can 'cos you'll never know when it'll end -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/523847d3.30...@gmail.com
Re: tty1-6, gdm3, xdm, gnome, Gigabyte mb - many problems - Solved
Hi, On 02-09-2013 18:54, Thomas H. George wrote: apt-get install fglrx-driver has solved the problem. I had overlooked a message at the start of bootup stating a radeon nonfree display package might be required. (Its on the screen very briefly - it took me three reboots to read it). I think i speaking about the package firmware-linux-nonfree where there is a file for Radeon cards microcode blob. When i used the free radeon driver, until i installed this package, there where some graphic problems, and in dmesg i could read something about missing radeon firmware or code, can't remember exactly. The notes on the fglrx-driver actually suggest trying the newest free driver xserver-xorg-video-radeon. That came with the netinstall, was properly installed and the system did come up with a working gnome desktop. In fact, many users might never encounter the problem I found. If all the user wants is a working gnome desktop and has no use for or is unaware of the tty terminals the netinstalled system is fine. Tom Right now, because of the support of a Radeon HD7770 i have the non-free fglrx-driver installed but keep the package firmware-linux-nonfree installed, no complains so far, and when i (re)test the new free radeon driver, it will be ready to go. Bandarra -- __ Bandarra Enjoy while you can 'cos you'll never know when it'll end -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5225a56c.9000...@gmail.com
Re: fglrx not working with Radon 7770 HD and kernel 3.9-1
On 24-06-2013 10:48, Max Linke wrote: I still have the 3.2.0-3 kernel installed and when I use the driver their everything works, nothing else is changed. So think that the fglrx driver and Xserver I have installed now work together. I have a HD7700 (cape verde XT) running jessie with xserver-xorg version: 1:7.7+3 and xserver-xorg-core: 2:1.12.4-6 and fglrx-driver 1:13.4-2. I can't say for 3D, because i don't use but no problems with the drivers. Perhaps with the update to the kernel the modules doesn't built right... Perhaps purge the fglrx-* and reinstall, and look for the kernel module built. On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 20:28:35 +0200 Ralf Mardorfralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: Catalyst versions only run with some versions of X and some cards are only provided by some versions of Catalyst. Current Catalyst doesn't support xorg-server 1.14. Catalyst 12.10 and Catalyst Legacy do not support xorg-server 1.13. Catalyst 12.6 doesn't support xorg-server 1.12. - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AMD_Catalyst#Xorg_repositories This should be equal for Debian. Luís Bandarra Enjoy while you can, 'cos you never know while it'll last! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51c98f3c.7000...@gmail.com
Re: Found problem source - BUG or undocumented feature? - was[Re: Mounting of USB flash drives - observed strangeness]
On 14-11-2012 21:57, Arno Schuring wrote: Richard Owlett (rowl...@cloud85.net on 2012-11-14 13:05 -0600): The source of the discrepancy is whether or not a USB flash drive is present (for whatever reason) during Debian installation. If there has been no USB flash drive present during install, then a labeled device shows up as /media/device label as expected. Having just done some Wheezy usb installs, I can confirm this for wheezy. However I'm not sure what solution it is you're looking for (do not create /media entry points for usb removables detected during install?). If you can explain that, perhaps the formulation of the bug report follows naturally. While you're at it, you may want to ask why the installer doesn't allow putting /media on a separate filesystem. Regards, Arno I've done a wheezy uefi usb install and created cdrom - cdrom0 and usb - usb0. When plugin in any another usb pen, my case a usb hard drive formated ntfs, had a lot of trouble to access the drive. I solve it looking at /etc/fstab and deleted the entry that point to usb. Because of that every time i plug that use, it try to mount it like the install usb pen. Regards, Laruibasar PS: Sorry Arno, without looking i press the wrong button and reply directly to you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50a4d7b4.9010...@gmail.com
Re: Configure GRUB 2
Hi, I also look into the files in /etc/grub.d/ There is a README file there that says something about the order of kernels, perhaps it helps. (I just change the 30_osprober) Bandarra On 07-11-2012 22:55, Lisi Reisz wrote: As I understand the GRUB manual, if I want to change the config file, then i have to edit /etc/default/grub. I want to change the order of the kernels in GRUB, but I can't see any kernels at all in /etc/default/grub. (See below.) So how do I boot from the earlier kernel? I must have misunderstood something! Thanks, Lisi --- GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= # Uncomment to enable BadRAM filtering, modify to suit your needs # This works with Linux (no patch required) and with any kernel that obtains # the memory map information from GRUB (GNU Mach, kernel of FreeBSD ...) #GRUB_BADRAM=0x01234567,0xfefefefe,0x89abcdef,0xefefefef # Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only) #GRUB_TERMINAL=console # The resolution used on graphical terminal # note that you can use only modes which your graphic card supports via VBE # you can see them in real GRUB with the command `vbeinfo' #GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 # Uncomment if you don't want GRUB to pass root=UUID=xxx parameter to Linux #GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true # Uncomment to disable generation of recovery mode menu entries #GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_RECOVERY=true # Uncomment to get a beep at grub start #GRUB_INIT_TUNE=480 440 1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/509ae918.4060...@gmail.com
