Re: How to read log files
Jari Fredriksson wrote: On 28.3.2010 21:16, Dotan Cohen wrote: Install logwatch, it will email you the essentials of daily logs. Thanks. Actually, my goal is to understand what I am reading in the logs, not just to have the error pointed out. But I will install logwatch for sure. Right now, I am fighting with a kernel panicking machine. Instead of googling each and every line of the messages log, I would love a reference that would explain what common lines mean, with an emphasis on error lines. But I can find no such resource! I have no problem reading log files. But I have 25 years behind of reading those. Thank you for pointing that out to us. We're soo impressed. Not. Maybe you are not entitled to use a computer in the first place? Maybe you're not entitled to be on this list, since you're such a dick? -- Odd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bafa3ee.2070...@runbox.no
Re: Mailing list policy change?
Paul E Condon wrote: -snip- I think a 'no CC' message in a signature block looks unfriendly, even stupid. Like the legal notices about not reading wrongly delivered email. I would not want to create an environment in which any help giver felt an urgent need to do such. As a matter of fact, the current rule is helpful to me in assessing the advice that I get. If I get a CC, I think this guy isn't a real DD --- I wonder if he knows what he's talking about. But if I violate the rules of list etiquette, I prefer to receive an email addressed directly to me rather than to be publicly shamed on the list. Could you please explain what 'DD' stands for? I seem to have missed that one, sorry. -- Odd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ba3cd91.6020...@runbox.no
Re: How to reduce a debian system to a base system
Mike Viau wrote: In essence I would like to revert my system back to a freshly installed state, without reinstalling. Ultimatly is this possible? -snip- I was hoping to find a solution for a currently running Debian system rather then to create a bare bone baseline or image... Wouldn't the easiest way be to backup all important data and reinstall? That _should_ give the same end result. But if that isn't a viable option for you, please explain why. Is this perhaps a remote server that you can't get your hands on, I can see how that would be a problem. -- Odd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ba3df2c.1040...@runbox.no
Re: instalation issue
Stephen Powell wrote: On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:52:24 -0400 (EDT), Germana Oliveira wrote: If i have an HP with an Intel Centrino, 64bit, should i dowload the iso for amd64 or 32?? or amd64 is just for AMD ¿? I am not an expert on this; but if it's a 64-bit processor, you probably want amd64 unless it's an Itanium, Centrino means it's definitely not Itanium. :) -- Odd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b9e4b25.5060...@runbox.no
Re: How to know if DVI connection is digital or analogue?
Dotan Cohen wrote: Tell the user to use a DVI-D to DVI-D (only digital) cable :-) He is using the cable that came with the monitor. Is there no way to tell which type of connection is being used? For whatever reason, it is important to him to know that the connection is digital. Check this pic: http://www.playtool.com/pages/dvicompat/sldldvi.jpg -- Odd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b950a6a.8090...@runbox.no
Re: [SOLVED] Overwrite existing partition with zeros without hurting partition table? (Debian Lenny)
thib wrote: Just to drop my two cents, since no one did before: Merely zeroing is not enough [1]. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_remanence And if you see the notes: http://www.nber.org/sys-admin/overwritten-data-guttman.html Since writing the above, I have noticed a comment attributed to Gutmann conceeding that overwritten sectors on modern (post 2003?) drives can not be read by the techniques outlined in the 1996 paper, but he does not withdraw the overwrought claims of the paper with respect to older drives. -- Odd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b93f9eb.2030...@runbox.no
Re: release cycles, security supports for multiple OSes
Vadkan Jozsef wrote: Does anybody has a list of multiple distros/operating systems comparing e.g.: security support time for a version, or what are the release cycles, etc.? Something like this? http://benjamin-schweizer.de/operating-systems-lifecycle-chart.html -- Odd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b893470.7030...@runbox.no
Re: Debian installation on laptop with damaged screen
Partially success. I booted the Debian Live CD, and could see everything, until the text mode booting was over, and Debian logo came up. Then it changed back to the laptop screen, and remained there. Fn+F4 did not work anymore. I assume there's an option for changing output under preferences, but the damage makes it impossible to see. I suppose there's a way to change the display output from Bash. Anybody know how? My googling has come up short. -- Odd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian installation on laptop with damaged screen
Klistvud wrote: Dne, 13. 02. 2010 10:46:41 je Odd napisal(a): I suppose there's a way to change the display output from Bash. Anybody know how? My googling has come up short. Don't know about that, but here's what I do: -- check out thoroughly any display-related BIOS settings Nothing there, unfortunately. The BIOS on this thing has only a few rudimentary settings. -- connect the external display BEFORE powering up the computer That's what I've been doing. -- selecting a non-graphical boot mode from the CD (text-based or ncurses install) -- booting up with the laptop screen closed (and an external keyboard connected) or, alternatively, by just manually holding down the lid-closed switch/button. I'll try these two and report back. Thanks ! -- Odd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian installation on laptop with damaged screen
Stephen Powell wrote: On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 04:46:41 -0500 (EST), Odd wrote: Partially success. I booted the Debian Live CD, and could see everything, until the text mode booting was over, and Debian logo came up. Then it changed back to the laptop screen, and remained there. Fn+F4 did not work anymore. I assume there's an option for changing output under preferences, but the damage makes it impossible to see. I suppose there's a way to change the display output from Bash. Anybody know how? My googling has come up short. If you switch to text console 1 via Ctrl+Alt+F1, do you get your display back on the external monitor? (Possibly after using Fn+F4 again.) If so, the problem is probably specific to the X server configuration. Yes, switching to text console actually works ! Suddenly it just popped up on the external monitor and the laptop screen went dark. I would never have guessed. With a live CD, there probably isn't an X server configuration, per se, it's relying on all default settings. But there's hope that an actual *install* of Debian will work. Use the non-graphical installer to get Debian installed, then see if you can get X working by monkeying around with the X configuration. Examining /var/log/Xorg.0.log may provide some clues. I'll try an install and see what can be done. Many Thanks ! -- Odd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian installation on laptop with damaged screen
Chris Davies wrote: Odd iod...@runbox.no wrote: Partially success. I booted the Debian Live CD, and could see everything, until the text mode booting was over, and Debian logo came up. Then it changed back to the laptop screen, and remained there. Fn+F4 did not work anymore. What about using the text installer (or has that option vanished these days)? The installation isn't the problem anymore, I did that earlier today. Now I need to convince X to show up on the external display. I'm going to take a look at it from the shell, as that is the only thing I can get to show up on the external display so far. My hopes are high. :) -- Odd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b7757e2.7030...@runbox.no
Debian installation on laptop with damaged screen
I get picture through the VGA port, but only after XP has booted. I thought I'd install Debian, but of course the picture defaults to the laptop's screen, and I cannot see enough of the picture to progress with the installation. I tried to see if I could set the default display through the bios, but the screen is so damaged that that's not an option either. So, it seems I'm stuck with XP, unless someone has a clever idea? -- Odd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian installation on laptop with damaged screen
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 4b75780e.8030...@runbox.no, Odd wrote: I get picture through the VGA port, but only after XP has booted. I thought I'd install Debian, but of course the picture defaults to the laptop's screen, and I cannot see enough of the picture to progress with the installation. So, it seems I'm stuck with XP, unless someone has a clever idea? Live CD + Debootstrap. Preseed. FAI. Ah, that's a useful suggestion. Thanks ! -- Odd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian installation on laptop with damaged screen
Stephen Powell wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:47:26 -0500 (EST), iod...@runbox.no wrote: I get picture through the VGA port, but only after XP has booted. I thought I'd install Debian, but of course the picture defaults to the laptop's screen, and I cannot see enough of the picture to progress with the installation. I tried to see if I could set the default display through the bios, but the screen is so damaged that that's not an option either. So, it seems I'm stuck with XP, unless someone has a clever idea? Well, it would help if you provided the make and model of laptop that you have. On many laptops, the default display can be set by keystrokes on the keyboard, without going into the BIOS. (internal only, external only, both). On many ThinkPad models, for example, Fn+F7 toggles through these choices, if an external monitor is detected during boot. Turns out you and David Maus was right. Fn+F4 did the trick. Somehow I had convinced myself that that only worked after booting. Thanks for the suggestion !! -- Odd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian installation on laptop with damaged screen
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 10:01:58 Odd wrote: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 4b75780e.8030...@runbox.no, Odd wrote: I get picture through the VGA port, but only after XP has booted. I thought I'd install Debian, but of course the picture defaults to the laptop's screen, and I cannot see enough of the picture to progress with the installation. So, it seems I'm stuck with XP, unless someone has a clever idea? Live CD + Debootstrap. Preseed. FAI. Ah, that's a useful suggestion. Thanks ! That was 3 separate suggestions. The first is probably the easiest. The others will (probably) require burning custom media. Oh, right. I googled all three at once, and the page I visited didn't immediately make clear they were separate. Anyway, this can come in handy in the future, so thanks to you too !! -- Odd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian installation on laptop with damaged screen
Stephen Powell wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:45:13 -0500 (EST), iod...@runbox.no wrote: Turns out you and David Maus was right. Fn+F4 did the trick. Somehow I had convinced myself that that only worked after booting. Thanks for the suggestion !! If you can get into the BIOS setup program, you can probably make external monitor only the default setting. No such option there. It's very, very sparse compared to a retail motherboard. Only things I can control are the usual ports. Some laptops use an external program to manage this setting. For example, on my IBM ThinkPad 600, I have a maintenance partition that I boot from the grub menu that runs Windows 95 in MS-DOS mode. (That's a full-screen C:\ prompt, no WIN.EXE.) From there I use the PS2 utility to set the option. For example: PS2 SCREEN CRT A soft boot via Ctrl+Alt+Delete after this activates the option. From then on, the power-on default is external CRT only. Consult your hardware documentation. There's probably a way to do it. Once you have it set, you don't have to worry about it anymore. Will do. ! Thanks, again ! -- Odd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian installation on laptop with damaged screen
Stephen Powell wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:45:13 -0500 (EST), iod...@runbox.no wrote: Turns out you and David Maus was right. Fn+F4 did the trick. Somehow I had convinced myself that that only worked after booting. Thanks for the suggestion !! If you can get into the BIOS setup program, you can probably make external monitor only the default setting. No such option there. It's very, very sparse compared to a retail motherboard. Only things I can control are the usual ports. Some laptops use an external program to manage this setting. For example, on my IBM ThinkPad 600, I have a maintenance partition that I boot from the grub menu that runs Windows 95 in MS-DOS mode. (That's a full-screen C:\ prompt, no WIN.EXE.) From there I use the PS2 utility to set the option. For example: PS2 SCREEN CRT A soft boot via Ctrl+Alt+Delete after this activates the option. From then on, the power-on default is external CRT only. Consult your hardware documentation. There's probably a way to do it. Once you have it set, you don't have to worry about it anymore. Will do. ! Thanks, again ! -- Odd H. Sandvik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Free book - GNU/Linux Advanced Administration
Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Thu, 4 Feb 2010, Kent West wrote: AG wrote: Odd wrote: Might be interesting for some people on this list. http://ftacademy.org/materials/fsm/2 Yer right. 'Twas very interesting. Thanks for the link. It looks like a pretty decent reference to the subject, and I appreciate that they have used a Debian (as well as a Fedora Core) focus for examples of implementation. Okay, you persuaded me to go take a look. Why, oh why, don't professionals proof-read their material? On the first page, in the first paragraph: The GNU/Linux systems have reached an important level of maturity, allowing to integrate them in almost any kind of work environment, from a desktop PC to the *sever* facilities of a big company. i'll be checking that out shortly as well, but i'm more put off by the thought that an advanced admin book first feels the need to evangelize the operating system. people who are drawn to an *advanced* administration book are typically past the point where they need to be sold on the OS. Yeah. I don't know how many books I've seen that dedicate an entire chapter to the history of Linux, distros and whatnot. It gets very, very annoying after a while. -- Odd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Free book - GNU/Linux Advanced Administration
Might be interesting for some people on this list. http://ftacademy.org/materials/fsm/2 -- Odd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Virtualization - what do You recommend?
ola...@gmail.com wrote: Also you can use Xen but you still need special hardware like the latest CPUs from AMD or Intel for Windows run... Be careful though. Not all of Intel's latest stuff has hardware support for virtualization. Check this list before buying: http://ark.intel.com/VTList.aspx All of AMDs latest 64bit processors have hardware support for virtualization Here's the list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_processors The later ones with AMD-V are the ones with hardware virtualization support. -- Odd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Virtualization - what do You recommend?
Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: Odd iod...@runbox.no : The later ones with AMD-V are the ones with hardware virtualization support. By the way, surprisingly, there is no web fronted on the AMD website in order to look for CPU specs, and the piece of software for detecting virtualization ability (on their website) is windows only. Yeah, AMD's website sucks in many ways. Intel's site makes it much easier to find info. On the other hand, looking for that information is quite easy on linux: - Intel CPU: grep vmx /proc/cpuinfo - AMD CPU: grep svm /proc/cpuinfo Just grep, no need of a zipped .exe. Cool, didn't know that. -- Odd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Virtualization - what do You recommend?
Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Odd wrote: ola...@gmail.com wrote: Also you can use Xen but you still need special hardware like the latest CPUs from AMD or Intel for Windows run... Be careful though. Not all of Intel's latest stuff has hardware support for virtualization. Check this list before buying: http://ark.intel.com/VTList.aspx as i recall, some CPUs actually have HW virt support, but it's been disabled in the BIOS. can anyone find something online that describes anyone who tripped over such a situation, and attempted to (re)enable that on their own? I had to enable it in the BIOS on my Gigabyte motherboard. It was very easy though, juse enable or disable. -- Odd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Virtualization - what do You recommend?
Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Odd wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Odd wrote: ola...@gmail.com wrote: Also you can use Xen but you still need special hardware like the latest CPUs from AMD or Intel for Windows run... Be careful though. Not all of Intel's latest stuff has hardware support for virtualization. Check this list before buying: http://ark.intel.com/VTList.aspx as i recall, some CPUs actually have HW virt support, but it's been disabled in the BIOS. can anyone find something online that describes anyone who tripped over such a situation, and attempted to (re)enable that on their own? I had to enable it in the BIOS on my Gigabyte motherboard. It was very easy though, juse enable or disable. fair enough, i just wanted to point out that the H/W virt support might be there, you just have to activate it. (i recall others who claimed (incorrectly?) that the support was there, but that they had no ability to turn it on.) Sounds strange to me, but it wouldn't surprise me if some BIOSes don't support it, even if the CPU does. In those cases I would check for BIOS updates to see if that remedies the situation. -- Odd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Virtualization - what do You recommend?
Michal wrote: On 02/02/2010 14:07, Celejar wrote: On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 16:28:28 +0300 Mihamina Rakotomandimby miham...@gulfsat.mg wrote: ... But who would virtualize on a netbook? I haven't actually done this, but I can think of an obvious use case where I'd like to: running Windows software on a Linux netbook. I understand that I won't enjoy running the latest Windows with all its bells and whistles and the latest 3d game on top of that, but surely it ought to be feasible to run an older Windows and some not very demanding application on top of it? Celejar Some notebooks have trouble running flash websites, or streaming sites like 4OD and iplayer, let alone another OS Yeah, the Atom processor is very underpowered for such tasks. Another thing is the screen estate. 9-10 is just too small to do any serious virtualization, at least with desktop OSes. Running Debian as a guest, without X otoh.. -- Odd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Virtualization - what do You recommend?
Celejar wrote: On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:20:55 +0100 Odd iod...@runbox.no wrote: ... Another thing is the screen estate. 9-10 is just too small to do any serious virtualization, at least with desktop OSes. Running Don't see the problem. Even on my 15 laptop, I generally run with all windows maximized, and cycle between them with alt-tab, or, occasionally, the mouse. Well, we'll have to disagree on the point of the netbooks. I agree that 15 is usable though. I've done virtualization on my 15. -- Odd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
