Re: Beginner question

2004-02-25 Thread Paul Morgan
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 08:56:59 +, Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 07:43:18AM +, Pedro M. wrote: In any case, one can create a newbie-user and advanced-user email lists if necessary. I think it's what Debian need now . There was a good rebuttal of this recently,

Re: best practice for crontabs

2004-02-25 Thread Paul Morgan
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 18:02:57 +0100, Andreas Janssen wrote: Hello Andy Fish ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have just figured out that there are 4 separate (types of) crontabs in debian /etc/crontab /etc/cron.d/... /etc/cron.daily, monthly, weekly /var/spool/crontabs/...

Re: Packaging quality

2004-02-22 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 22:07:32 +, Colin Watson wrote: On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 07:50:22AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 09:43:31AM +, Colin Watson wrote: I know you weren't; I was referring to Paul's remark about package quality, which came right out of left field.

Re: apt-get update error

2004-02-20 Thread Paul Morgan
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 22:51:02 +0530, Deboo wrote: I'm using debian woody. After reading an article in LG on apt (Issue 86 - Debian APT, part2), I wanted to try using some package from testing and I did as per the artile, putting 2 new lines for testing and unstable in sources.list. But after I

Re: apt-get upgrade of kernel-image

2004-02-20 Thread Paul Morgan
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 18:34:25 +0100, mess-mate wrote: On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 17:20:26 +0100 Monique Y. Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |On 2004-02-19, mess-mate penned: | | Sorry, not clear enough for me. | I'd a kernel-image -2.4.24-1-686 installed and did an upgrade to the 2.4.24-2 | Since

Re: aptitude marking everything packages held back?

2004-02-20 Thread Paul Morgan
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 12:54:11 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: (I wonder how I managed to change that setting without noticing ...) You make me a bit nervous for you when you say stuff like that, Monique :) -- paul It is important to realize that any lock can be picked

Re: AW: Bonjour - WAY WAY OT!

2004-02-20 Thread Paul Morgan
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 23:05:13 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 12:35:59PM -0800, Nano Nano wrote: I swear to Christ, when I was in France, I said to myself: PLEASE GOD PLEASE get me back to my land of 500 channels of pablum,

Re: CLI

2004-02-19 Thread Paul Morgan
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 23:50:18 -0500, David T-G wrote: Oh, for the days when Linux really was just for geeks... :-) OK, I can't resist as this thread is so way off topic anyway... A geek is walking along a country road trying to find a use for an array of pointers to arrays of pointers to

Info re. lilo 22.5.8-11 on Sarge

2004-02-18 Thread Paul Morgan
All, Just some info. lilo's behavior has changed with the above package in Sarge. It will by default apply change automatic, which for me meant that it changed the partition types of all but one of the NTFS/FAT32 partitions on the disk containing my XP system partition to hidden, causing a

Re: tmpfs and /tmp vs. /dev/shm

2004-02-18 Thread Paul Morgan
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 17:01:34 -0500, Darin Strait wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm running kernel 2.6.2 and I'm experimenting with tmpfs. I added the following to my fstab: tmpfs /tmptmpfs size=50m,mode=1777 0 0 I then

Re: CLI

2004-02-18 Thread Paul Morgan
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 14:17:06 -0800, Nano Nano wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 04:13:22PM -0500, David T-G wrote: What about a switch with a 1 and 0? From what I've read of you so far it would obviously be 'turned on' :-) Do yourselves a favor and stop this patheticness. I'm cringing just

Re: recommended reading?

2004-02-15 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 17:44:03 +1100, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 07:16:54AM +0100, Thorsten Haude said * s. keeling wrote (2004-02-09 06:44): Just because it doesn't mention kde 3.x doesn't mean it's obsolete. The book is 20 years old! There wasn't even an X Window to speak of!

Re: Comcast has IPv6, when will Debian?

2004-02-13 Thread Paul Morgan
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 16:37:20 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: ... Disney got rid of it's animation department Disney didn't. -- paul It is important to realize that any lock can be picked with a big enough hammer. -- Sun System Network Admin manual --

Re: Permissions

2004-02-10 Thread Paul Morgan
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 19:45:15 -0600, Joshua Jankowski wrote: As I have been quite intelligent in setting permissions on my debian server, I am here to see if anyone has a solution. In my attempt to write recursive permissions on one of my directories, I hit enter a little too prematurely

Re: Newbie install question re: Mouse

2004-02-10 Thread Paul Morgan
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:45:31 -0500, Bob Mills wrote: 2. How can I get into a command line interface from the graphical login window without the mouse? Bob Mills Bob, please post in plain text... To get to a console, Ctrl-Alt-F1 through F6. (There are 6 virtual consoles

Re: Knoppix is Not Debian

2004-02-09 Thread Paul Morgan
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 16:33:15 +0800, Katipo wrote: How much further ahead would Debian be if it already incorporated Knoppixs' hardware recognition, Adamantixs' security features and Xandros' drag and drop capability? Instead I have sat back and watched as supposedly mature aged individuals

Re: Knoppix is Not Debian

2004-02-09 Thread Paul Morgan
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 13:50:17 -0700, s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Paul Morgan: You must also be referring to the almost constant stream of infantile anti M$ remarks with which I am heartily sick and tired. I use several OSes, This is an attitude of which _I_ am sick and tired

Re: recommended reading?

2004-02-09 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 22:44:38 -0700, s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Thorsten Haude: * Paul E Condon wrote (2004-02-08 05:15): Start with Kernighan and Pike, The UNIX Programming Environment. Please don't. This might have been a good book twenty years ago but now it's obsolete. I

Re: Debian, Knoppix, and other varients

2004-02-09 Thread Paul Morgan
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 12:29:37 -0500, Bijan Soleymani wrote: On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 02:11:29AM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: What would you suggest as an alternative? I've heard calls for Morphix, but that's a derivitive of Knoppix. I'd suggest them putting the Woody CD in the drive and

Re: Auction R.S. Brookes

2004-02-09 Thread Paul Morgan
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 12:07:55 +, Clarke Fussells wrote: [snip] Complete all stainless steel mashed potato plant with blanchers, peelers, emulsifiers and mixers * Complete forming battering crumbing and frying lines Formax, Koppens and Stein [snip] Yes, but does all that stuff

Re: dual boot debian Windoze, need advice

2004-02-09 Thread Paul Morgan
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 13:06:38 -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: I want to dual boot an i686 machine with Debian Sarge and Windoze. My situation is somewhat special, so the directions that I find when I google the topic do not really apply IMHO. The i686 computer already has Sarge installed on a

Re: Knoppix is Not Debian

2004-02-09 Thread Paul Morgan
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 21:11:15 +, Sam Halliday wrote: i cant believe i just replied to an anti-microsoft troll on debian-user :-/ I'll note it in my diary, Sam : -- paul It is important to realize that any lock can be picked with a big enough hammer.

Re: Knoppix is Not Debian

2004-02-09 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 21:04:34 -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: [snip] If the idea is to dumb things down so that the stupids don't have to think, eventually all that will be left are the stupids. [snip] Ha! Build a system that even a fool can use, and only a fool will want to use it. I've just

Re: Knoppix is Not Debian

2004-02-09 Thread Paul Morgan
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 07:43:41 +0800, Katipo wrote: On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 15:59:43 -0500 Paul Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 13:50:17 -0700, s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Paul Morgan: You must also be referring to the almost constant stream of infantile anti M

Re: apt.debian.org server to compute dist-upgrade needs

2004-02-08 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 07:53:13 +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: [Say] we can't do apt-get dist-upgrade over our puny modem. We must go to town to burn the files onto a CDROM and take them back to install it. Sure, we could do apt-get dist-upgrade --print-uris, or use apt-zip, but that creates a

Re: a bit (asus!) confused about i2c and lm-sensors

2004-02-08 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 01:08:40 -0800, Nano Nano wrote: I have an ASUS P4C800. I have 2.6.2 kernel. I wish to see my CPU and Mobo temps (and ideally fan speeds) like Asus PC Probe shows in Windows. I have successfully installed lmsensors, (using 2.2.23 and 2.4.24 kernels) and it works great,

Re: apt.debian.org server to compute dist-upgrade needs

2004-02-08 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 11:23:28 +, James Tappin wrote: Could be expensive though, I remember when I was using dialup, about 1-hour/day connection at off-peak rates only cost only about £5 /month less than I currently pay for ADSL 24 hours /day at 10 times the data rate. James Hah, yes,

Re: recommended reading?

2004-02-08 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 11:28:58 +0100, Thorsten Haude wrote: Hi, * Paul E Condon wrote (2004-02-08 05:15): Start with Kernighan and Pike, The UNIX Programming Environment. Please don't. This might have been a good book twenty years ago but now it's obsolete. Thorsten Not by any means.

Re: recommended reading?

2004-02-08 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 13:38:57 +0100, Thorsten Haude wrote: Hi, * Paul Morgan wrote (2004-02-08 12:50): On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 11:28:58 +0100, Thorsten Haude wrote: * Paul E Condon wrote (2004-02-08 05:15): Start with Kernighan and Pike, The UNIX Programming Environment. Please don't

Re: Knoppix is Not Debian

2004-02-08 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 14:16:33 -0500, Bijan Soleymani wrote: On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 08:44:28AM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: Feh. While it may well work for you, who has clue, anyone who suggests to a cluebie that using Knoppix is a way to get Debian should be shot. Well a lot of new users like

Re: recommended reading?

2004-02-08 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 17:23:37 +0100, Thorsten Haude wrote: Hi, * Paul Morgan wrote (2004-02-08 16:37): On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 13:38:57 +0100, Thorsten Haude wrote: I use Linux for a couple of years now, and usually know my way around on various Unix systems. Most of the tools described

Re: a bit (asus!) confused about i2c and lm-sensors

2004-02-08 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 15:04:21 -0800, Nano Nano wrote: [snip] Nano, I don't know anything about compiling the 2.6 kernel, I'm sticking with 2.4 series for now. The only problem I had with compiling the lmsensors modules was that there were two author-related macros which needed fixing for the

Re: debian ... can't get it to install

2004-02-07 Thread Paul Morgan
On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 05:12:31 -0800, Nano Nano wrote: On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 07:36:35AM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: KIND : Knoppix Is Not Debian KIND BUD: Knoppix Is Novice Distro Based Upon Debian :-) KIND POOR BUM: Knoppix Is Not Debian, Packages Often Original Release But Ultimately

Re: Kernel compilation woes

2004-02-07 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 12:09:10 -0600, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote: I'm trying to compile my own 2.4.24 kernel using the sources from kernel.org and the .config from Sarge, and I'm getting some errors: # make-kpkg kernel_image compiling... if [ -r System.map ]; then /sbin/depmod -ae -F

Re: i would like to read some root files on a distant debian host

2004-02-07 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 21:02:00 +0100, bruno doutriaux wrote: i would like to read some root files on a distant debian host. could somebody help me. (i have some hints: the debian host is using gaim 0.75 which has security fails and i would like to also listen it with a trojan, is it possible on

Re: Re:Knoppix is Not Debian

2004-02-07 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 22:28:03 +0100, David Baron wrote: [snip] Knoppix is a quick jumpstart into Linux for Novices, yes. One can also purchase Lindows or Xandro for similar results. After HD installation, this mailing list becomes the best source of advice. Knoppsters on their mailing list

Re: anti-virus software for Gnu/Linux

2004-02-06 Thread Paul Morgan
On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 22:09:32 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On 2004-02-06, Paul Johnson penned: On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 10:28:14PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: Hopefully Rick forgives the personal intrusion. If you consider getting an email from someone else on the net as a personal

Re: debian ... can't get it to install

2004-02-06 Thread Paul Morgan
On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 21:05:37 -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 10:59:04AM +0100, David Baron wrote: Try a knoppix CD (you can download the image and burn one yourself). Use this and in 15 minutes you have a fully configured Debian system. Painless. Apparently this bears

Re: debian ... can't get it to install

2004-02-06 Thread Paul Morgan
On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 07:36:35 -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: I was going to respond earlier, but I've tried to inform the OP previously Sorry, not the OP, I was confused by his unthreaded reply. -- paul It is important to realize that any lock can be picked with a big enough

Re: viewing jpg files on text terminal

2004-02-01 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:54:30 +0530, Gauri S Deshmukh wrote: hello all i am not a subscriber to the list. i hope this message gets posted. i also request you to mark a copy of your replies to me. i use debian 3.0. is there any program/ utility that will let me see jpg/ gif files on the

Re: Turn Debian into a Desktop-System what to do

2004-02-01 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 07:18:44 +0100, Alex Fitterling wrote: [snip] music, tex. that's it! So CAN i use it without logs?? why gentoo users can do and not debian? the packages depencies are almost everytime connected with unnecessary server stuff as I don't want use. I like to use my debian

Re: A letter for Mr. Darl McBride

2004-02-01 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 00:44:34 -0800, Nano Nano wrote: [snip] I guess my point is we are a smart bunch of people and if we stay quiet we can have all we want and no one will bother us. That's all. I've seen bigger movements than this go down. Very elegantly put, Nano, my congratulations

Re: unchecked 31 times

2004-02-01 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:30:13 -0600, Will Trillich wrote: On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 03:56:25PM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: My understanding is that lilo works off a system map which is created at installation and is sector based. So, as long as it can figure out where the kernel is physically

Re: viewing jpg files on text terminal

2004-02-01 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 09:33:21 -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: Gauri, a text terminal is a *text* terminal. The Linux GUI interface is X. So you need to be using a viewer in X. Linux is not like the old DOS OSes which ran programs which took over the video with their own custom device-specific

Re: Mobo with fan controls

2004-01-31 Thread Paul Morgan
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:55:21 -0800, Wendell Cochran wrote: Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:27:57 -0600 From: Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am looking for a mobo that has controls on for all its fans so they can be turned off or down when not needed . . . PC Power Cooling ( maybe

Re: Mobo with fan controls

2004-01-31 Thread Paul Morgan
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 20:42:22 -0800, Day Brown wrote: One other reminder that PCs were designed for the corporate environment. People at home open the windows. And after being a home a few years, the fans have clogged the heat sinks with dust, and the system fries. I run with the hood off.

Re: choice of languages for debian system tool?

2004-01-31 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 10:49:59 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: So, um, is there a way to list all packages that are in a particular section? My aptitude test must have been naive, but I'm not sure why. Other than my just-now reverse-engineered approach of trying the url

Re: choice of languages for debian system tool?

2004-01-31 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 12:42:42 -0800, Nano Nano wrote: On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 03:20:43PM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: aptitude ~sbase aptitude search ~sbase Thank you, nano, I am an idiot. -- paul It is important to realize that any lock can be picked with a big

Re: 256-color xterm

2004-01-30 Thread Paul Morgan
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 10:15:45 +, Colin Watson wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 10:09:09AM +, Colin Watson wrote: by hand; I expect that to be difficult for xfree86. There's nothing to ^ Oops; closing parenthesis goes

Re: ulimit, bash and ash

2004-01-30 Thread Paul Morgan
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 16:40:30 +0200, Hugo van der Merwe wrote: I just noticed that in bash ulimit -u is the same as ash's ulimit -p, while bash has another meaning for ulimit -p ... This makes writing scripts quite difficult, I'd say you cannot then use ulimit in /bin/sh scripts, only in

Re: ulimit, bash and ash

2004-01-30 Thread Paul Morgan
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:08:59 -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 16:40:30 +0200, Hugo van der Merwe wrote: I just noticed that in bash ulimit -u is the same as ash's ulimit -p, while bash has another meaning for ulimit -p ... This makes writing scripts quite difficult, I'd say you

Re: disregard post re: sound!

2004-01-29 Thread Paul Morgan
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:46:48 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: Fine, drag my shame out into the light of day. You know that red line that goes through the speaker icon on the gnome panel? Yeah, apparently that means it's set to mute, and clicking it fixes the problem, and gets rid of the

Re: Derivative effects.

2004-01-26 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 20:48:34 -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: Also, he says that it runs on the PDP-11 and the Interdata 8/32, which contradicts my memory that it was developed on an earlier model DEC computer. But he does say that work on UNIX started in 1971. so maybe my memory is OK. IIRC,

Re: [OT] Bruce Perens talks to BBC

2004-01-26 Thread Paul Morgan
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 04:49:26 +0100, Jan Minar wrote: On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 05:01:17PM -0800, Nano Nano wrote: Here's another view of that data: What about this one?: | Country Aid(Billions) People(Millions) Dollars/Person | Australia 1 19.750.76 | Austria 0.5 8.1

Re: kernel update

2004-01-26 Thread Paul Morgan
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:42:44 -0500, David Z Maze wrote: Paul Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 03:56:13 +0100, knoppix wrote: Kernels work differently than other debian packages. Each kernel revision is a *different* package. So, do: apt-get update apt-cache search

Re: Unable to disable IDE DMA on boot

2004-01-25 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 09:11:39 +0200, Johannes Lehtinen wrote: On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 06:41:35AM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 03:40:18 +0200, Johannes Lehtinen wrote: I have a problem disabling IDE DMA. I am trying to install Debian Sarge in to an old laptop and with DMA

Re: Derivative effects.

2004-01-25 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 07:21:02 -0500, Haines Brown wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 10:43:56PM -0800, Day Brown wrote: Linux comes from Unix, which was designed for mainframes. windows comes from dos, which was designed for personal desktops. Well technically Unix was designed for mid-sized

Re: Bruce Perens talks to BBC

2004-01-24 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 00:46:13 -0500, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: Thank you Collin. Beautiful reading. Scary. To think that so many of the statements made in science fiction have come through, to know how dark life can be made to be on the surface of this ball, or on the surface of the other

Re: Unable to disable IDE DMA on boot

2004-01-24 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 03:40:18 +0200, Johannes Lehtinen wrote: Hello, I have a problem disabling IDE DMA. I am trying to install Debian Sarge in to an old laptop and with DMA enabled (default) I keep getting DMA timeouts and retries from /dev/hda. The kernel image is 2.4.23-1-386 (2.4.23-1).

Re: kernel update

2004-01-24 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 03:56:13 +0100, knoppix wrote: Hi is apt-get update kernel-2.6 enough to upgrade the kernel ? Kernels work differently than other debian packages. Each kernel revision is a *different* package. So, do: apt-get update apt-cache search kernel-image apt-get install

Re: GNOME 2.4 for Sarge...when?

2004-01-24 Thread Paul Morgan
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:01:14 +0100, Jaume Alonso wrote: Paul Morgan wrote: On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:05:24 +0100, Jaume Alonso wrote: I'm a newbie in debian. I'm currently using Sarge. When will I be able to install the new GNOME 2.4?? You can do it right now, you just have to do

Re: rescue floppies

2004-01-23 Thread Paul Morgan
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:04:20 -0200, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: Hello, I want to make a rescue floppy set for my woody system. Where should I look for information? The Rescue Floppy section of the Installing manual doesn't help... man mkrescue -- paul It is

Re: Partition size discrepancy df v parted/cfdisk

2004-01-22 Thread Paul Morgan
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:05:01 +, Clive Menzies wrote: Hi List I've just reorganised the partitions on a second (Seagate) drive in a dual booting Dell Dimension XPS T500 to give more room to /usr (to upgrade from woody to sid). The partitions I messed with were /home, /usr and two

Re: GNOME 2.4 for Sarge...when?

2004-01-22 Thread Paul Morgan
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:05:24 +0100, Jaume Alonso wrote: I'm a newbie in debian. I'm currently using Sarge. When will I be able to install the new GNOME 2.4?? You can do it right now, you just have to do it in bits and pieces. apt-cache search is your friend (look for the gnome2 packages).

Re: Versions

2004-01-22 Thread Paul Morgan
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:36:38 -0600, Kent West wrote: M.Kirchhoff wrote: If you want the newest software available, Sid/Unstable is where you want to be. `Unstable` is a misleading term; really, it's more `volatile` than unstable, that is, packages move into Sid/Unstable constantly, so the

Re: Remove package configure options

2004-01-22 Thread Paul Morgan
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:39:52 -0800, Ian Neubert wrote: I just installed bugzilla with `apt-get install bugzilla`. I set some of the congiuration settings wrong when it ran the configure part of the deb package. I then ran `apt-get remove bugzilla`, and `dpkg -P bugzilla`. But now, when I

Re: partitions

2004-01-22 Thread Paul Morgan
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:52:47 -0500, Jose Peralta Ramirez wrote: i have 2 hard disks drives in my computer, one have fat32 an windows98, the other has four partitions, one NTFS, other with fat32, and with windows XP in the NTFS partition, other with SWAP and othe with EXT3 and with linux

Re: Partition size discrepancy df v parted/cfdisk

2004-01-22 Thread Paul Morgan
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:57:44 +, Clive Menzies wrote: On (22/01/04 14:31), Paul Morgan wrote: On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:05:01 +, Clive Menzies wrote: I've just reorganised the partitions on a second (Seagate) drive in a dual booting Dell Dimension XPS T500 to give more room to /usr

Re: global variables in shared libraries

2004-01-21 Thread Paul Morgan
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:13:07 +0100, martin f krafft wrote: Hi there, Please excuse the OTness of this post. Since I am writing a library to be included in Debian, I feel that I should not be slaughtered for bothering you and hoping for your time and knowledge. It wouldn't be OT if you

Re: Semi-Old Video Card Recommendation

2004-01-21 Thread Paul Morgan
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 22:30:39 +, Pigeon wrote: On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 04:41:59AM +0800, Ryan Mackay wrote: If you dont choose this chipset i would suggest sticking with nVidia none the less, they do support Linux (or Xwindows should i say) alot more/better than other companies. Hmm,

Re: Debian dedicated hosting

2004-01-21 Thread Paul Morgan
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 11:42:26 +, Antony Gelberg wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks! I'm looking for a dedicated server supporting Debian, without paying through the nose for a custom installation. I'm with aktiom.net. I've been very pleased with their service after a few

Re: apt-get dist-upgrade

2004-01-21 Thread Paul Morgan
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:13:11 +0100, kegwasher wrote: Help. I seem to have developed a problem during my update. The mirror selected must be overwhelmed or just slow. My update time remaining is swinging from 7hrs to 4days! Is is possible to stop and restart without causing a mess?

Re: checking whether partition mounted as ext3

2004-01-20 Thread Paul Morgan
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 23:00:55 +, Pigeon wrote: Like I said, running mount will tell you how the FS is mounted. It does not echo what is in /etc/fstab. When it mounts an FS, it writes an entry in /etc/mtab describing the mount. Of course it's going to look similar to the fstab entry

Re: Documentation and Usability

2004-01-20 Thread Paul Morgan
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 03:02:30 -0300, Cristian Gutierrez wrote: This seems to be partly due to the nature of issues' contexts. You have trouble with XFree, then you post relevant parts of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and /var/log/XFree86.0.log (you are usually specifically asked for this files).

Re: checking whether partition mounted as ext3

2004-01-19 Thread Paul Morgan
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 02:39:14 +, Faheem Mitha wrote: On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:00:51 -0500, Paul Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Running mount, as you suggest, will tell you with which options the FS was mounted, including the journaling mode. It just seems to echo what is in /etc/fstab

Re: Help: New kernel image, boot trashed

2004-01-19 Thread Paul Morgan
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:18:21 +0200, David Baron wrote: In the continuing attempt to get my ext3 active, following instructions in the Debian Reference, I apt-got a new kernel image (so I took the 2.24-1 version, i686-smp. This installs demanding and initrd. I edited lilo config with an

Re: Recommended ISP's

2004-01-19 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:36:01 -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: Brett Carrington wrote: That is not too difficult. The [U.S.] military (and others, I'm sure) use wide-band recorders for some applications (not sure what, as it is not my field of expertise). Essentially, they record onto 1 or

Re: USB Floppy installation

2004-01-19 Thread Paul Morgan
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 01:04:10 +, Colin Watson wrote: On Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 08:26:03PM +0100, peter a wrote: But that would only work with the so far unstable Sarge-release? As this is a server install I would prefer a stable release.. or is it possible to use the installer too boot a

Re: Is swen back?

2004-01-19 Thread Paul Morgan
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 18:18:09 +0300, Alphonse Ogulla wrote: Got 200 plus mail bombs in my pop3 account this morning. Luckily I used Kmail and filtered (deleted) every incoming message of size greater than 40Kb. Just wondering, is swen back from holiday? How you people managing? I've been

Re: checking whether partition mounted as ext3

2004-01-19 Thread Paul Morgan
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:43:51 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On 2004-01-19, Paul Morgan penned: With regard to booting: if you don't specify the root filesystem at boot time, how is the OS going to find it? There is, apparently a default for the root filesystem compiled into the kernel - I

Re: checking whether partition mounted as ext3

2004-01-19 Thread Paul Morgan
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:22:42 -0600, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote: As to why revert to ext2, after conversion to ext3 and serveral other changes, the hard disk stays on all the time. I'm trying to figure out why. Anyone know how to safely convert an ext3 FS to ext2? A quick google (hint,

Re: checking whether partition mounted as ext3

2004-01-18 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 13:51:28 -0700, Doug Holland wrote: On Sun 18 Jan 2004 1:16 pm, Faheem Mitha wrote: Dear People, Just wondering if anyone knows of a easy and definitive way to determine whether a specific mounted partition is ext2 or ext3, and if ext3, whether is mounted as ordered data

Re: checking whether partition is mounted ext3

2004-01-18 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:34:17 +0100, David Baron wrote: cat /proc/mounts mount command and /etc/mtab contents simply parrot what is in /etc/fstab. The OP wanted to see also what ext3 journal option is in effect. You can't see that in /proc/mounts, so the mount command would be the way to go.

Re: Documentation and Usability

2004-01-18 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 17:32:49 -0600, Mac McCaskie wrote: Paul Morgan wrote: On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 13:18:50 -0600, Mac McCaskie wrote: So you would wish, for instance, to deprive me of a package which I can understand and use simply because the documentation is not adequate enough for you

Re: Documentation and Usability

2004-01-18 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 20:37:27 -0600, Mac McCaskie wrote: The obvious solution to this quandry, would be to put the URL in the man page if the page applied to that implementation. Shouldn't that be easy to do? (but it does leave out those poor unfortunates that do not have internet

Re: Debian and kernel 2.6.1

2004-01-17 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 03:51:22 -0800, Phillipus Gunawan wrote: Hi there, How to compile kernel 2.6.1 in Debian way? Can somebody point me at a good doco? What are the requirements to install kernel 2.6.1? The gcc, etc? http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html also, I

Re: Documentation and Usability

2004-01-17 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 13:18:50 -0600, Mac McCaskie wrote: I think my point would be closer to not allowing a package on-board without adaqate instruction on what it was and how to use it. Where is the value of providing a widget to a customer without giving them a clue as to what the widget

Re: Debian TAKEOVER script

2004-01-16 Thread Paul Morgan
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 11:22:59 -0800, Cloids wrote: I am trying to the Debian Takeover Script (http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/debian-devel-200401/msg00313.html) Wehn I execute the script, I get this error: ./debian: line 200: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'

Re: Differences in RH Fedora coming from Debian

2004-01-16 Thread Paul Morgan
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 03:19:54 -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: I'm taking a class this semester which is all about installing and using Linux. After talking with the professor on Tuesday, I've learned a few details. First, I have to use Vulgarly Illogical for my text editor for the purposes of

Re: If a computer is sold with preinstalled SUSE, shouldn't it work with Debian?

2004-01-16 Thread Paul Morgan
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 22:37:57 -0500, alex wrote: If a computer works with a preinstalled SUSE system and doesn't have an installed MS Windows system, what problems can be expected with adding and running additional systems like Debian and a MS Windows if the hard drive is properly

Re: OT: Why the net Sucks: Stonehenge

2004-01-16 Thread Paul Morgan
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 22:47:56 -0800, Nano Nano wrote: Obviously, for tech stuff, the internet is authoritative. And there should be travel brochures and fan sites on the internet. But I would much rather googling for Stonehenge returned 27 hits comprising thousands of printed pages of

Re: Hard Drive Problems

2004-01-16 Thread Paul Morgan
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:42:43 -0500, Brad Cramer wrote: I am running Sid with 2 matching 40gig drives. Everything has been running great until I get this message when going and apt-get upgrade: hdc: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hdc: dma_intr: error=0x40 {

Re: Differences in RH Fedora coming from Debian

2004-01-16 Thread Paul Morgan
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:08:33 -0500, Carl Fink wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 03:11:55PM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: Firstly, you are not going to make many friends by dissing what many long-time Unix programmers regard as the best test editor going. So you can pretty much assume

Re: Differences in RH Fedora coming from Debian

2004-01-16 Thread Paul Morgan
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 03:07:48 -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: See above reference to proper usage of the 'find' command. It really comes in handy in situations like this. :) - Once again. Smiley. Joke. Ha ha. Funny. Etc, etc, etc, ad nauseaum. Need I go on? :) I owe you an apology. I

Re: debian pwd

2004-01-16 Thread Paul Morgan
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 20:37:57 +0100, Arkel wrote: hello guys does anybody know how to get super user privilege when a normal user not supposed to You could try buying the SA a hooker. -- paul It is important to realize that any lock can be picked with a big enough

Re: OT: Why stonehenge Sucks

2004-01-13 Thread Paul Morgan
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 11:12:38 -0800, Deryk Barker wrote: My major beef is the way that they allow the Druids (virutually nothing is known about the real Druids aside from a paragraph in Caesar) to prance about there on midsummer's morning. Firstly the real Druids did *not* build Stonehenge

Re: SOLVED: help! - how to get postgres 7.3 back

2004-01-12 Thread Paul Morgan
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 02:14:14 +, Oliver Elphick wrote: On Sun, 2004-01-11 at 09:27, Paul Morgan wrote: I've been following this thread with interest, being a user of postgreql 7.3.4 on sarge, as the upgrade will be heading my way soon. I did wonder why the postinstall on your first

Re: SOLVED: help! - how to get postgres 7.3 back

2004-01-11 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:14:45 +, Richard Lyons wrote: On Saturday 10 January 2004 01:08, Oliver Elphick wrote: [...snipped: details of stupidly upgrading postgres without first doing pg_dumpall, causing need to downgrade from 7.4 to 7.3 temporarily...] [snip] Then used

Re: Webmin doesn't install properly on Woody?

2004-01-11 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 12:48:55 -0600, Mac McCaskie wrote: My real question is this, -should I give up on Woody and move to Sarge as one post (elsewhere) suggested in hopes that Sarge's .deb will actually work? -give up on the .deb package system and use the .tar file - (takes me back to

Re: Changing the name of my computer

2004-01-10 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 12:25:34 +, Tendril wrote: Now I get all the same files as before come up except with ~ at the end. What does the ~ mean? I tried to edit these files but was informed that the 'buffer is read only' If you look at the man page for the editor you were using, you'll

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