[Updated] How To Fix: Firewire IRQ Errors on Reboot

I've had problems with my ThinkPad T61 Freezing on me (wouldn't respond to keyboard, mouse, nothing). So I reinstalled Debian without the tlp or sensors stuff. I was back to the old IRQ problems (which turned into FIFO overrun errors if I put irqpoll in GRUB). It was just a constant cycle of

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

On 08/18/2017 10:25 AM, Dejan Jocic wrote: On 18-08-17, RavenLX wrote: On 08/18/2017 09:14 AM, Sven Hartge wrote: RavenLX <rave...@sitesplace.net> wrote: I always used the Oracle repo anyway because it was updated more frequently. But I do wish that something could be worked

Re: Thoughts on Ansible? [was: Thoughts on Anible?]

On 08/19/2017 07:35 PM, deloptes wrote: Zenaan Harkness wrote: Pythong, -the- language for digital wedgies. haha " digital wedgies"! you don't have to know python to use ansible Actually YAML is more important for ansible regards I always wanted to learn Python actually, and am learning

Re: Thoughts on Ansible? [was: Thoughts on Anible?]

On 08/19/2017 05:52 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 02:32:45PM -0400, RavenLX wrote: am learning Pythong. Pythong, -the- language for digital wedgies. ROTFLMAO! I think my typing needs to go bak to schtool. :P (That time typos were on purpose - just a little added humor

Re: Thoughts on Ansible?

On 08/20/2017 11:45 AM, deloptes wrote: RavenLX wrote: A friend suggested Ansible, but I think I agree with you that for what I do, Ansible would be overkill. I have two laptops that I keep pretty identical and so far have done well doing so with only a bash script I wrote. As for servers I

Re: Thoughts on Ansible?

On 08/19/2017 02:43 AM, deloptes wrote: RavenLX wrote: Should Ansible be added to my list? Or do devs recommend something else? (I am wondering if the "user" mailing list is even the right place to ask?) It was indeed a long reading. I couldn't understand why you exactly

Re: Thoughts on Ansible? [was: Thoughts on Anible?]

On 08/19/2017 03:40 PM, Osamu Aoki wrote: Hi, On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 02:32:45PM -0400, RavenLX wrote: ... I think use of ansible or any similar tool is not prerequisite of "development". It's a configuration management system. It's a nice and interesting tool I am thinkin

Re: Thoughts on Ansible? [was: Thoughts on Anible?]

iXQAnjK0rM6Gw9XkTGa2EGc8m550J2kc =4CIk -END PGP SIGNATURE- Thank you. I'm sorry about the typo. I'll reply in this fixed thread. On 08/19/2017 11:12 AM, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hi, > > > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 07:01:03PM -0400, RavenLX wrote: >> Please forgive my

Thoughts on Anible?

Please forgive my goofy questions. I am not really that well versed in CM (Configuration Management) and this post is really going to show it. Because this will more than likely be tltr (too long to read), I'll try to make it as fun as possible. Forgive if my humor is a bit strange. I

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

On 08/18/2017 10:44 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 10:02:03 -0400 RavenLX <rave...@sitesplace.net> wrote: I wonder if there's a replacement for VirtualBox? I need something that will allow me to share a directory between host and virtual machine, and to be able to go betwee

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

On 08/18/2017 09:14 AM, Sven Hartge wrote: RavenLX <rave...@sitesplace.net> wrote: I always used the Oracle repo anyway because it was updated more frequently. But I do wish that something could be worked out so that it would be back in Debian. Highly unlikely, as Oracle behave

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

On 08/15/2017 12:37 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote: On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 01:18:22PM +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: Robert Menes wrote: Is there a reason why virtualbox hasn't migrated into stretch or buster yet? Short Answer: Because of Oracle. Longer Answer:

Re: How To Fix: Firewire IRQ Errors on Reboot

post below:] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: How To Fix: Firewire IRQ Errors on Reboot From: RavenLX <rave...@sitesplace.net> Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 09:25:52 -0400 Message-id: <[?] 5abcce6c-1786-f85c-5ffe-4f9821aac...@sitesplace.net> I would like to share another discovery. T

Re: Darn 'beep' stoped working after installing Stretch in place of Jessie

On 08/02/2017 10:38 AM, david...@freevolt.org wrote: On Mon, 31 Jul 2017, Juan R. de Silva wrote: Hi folks, I installed (fresh install instead of an upgrade) Debian Stretch on my laptop. The installation is full success without any problem except a little one - 'beep' does not produce a

Re: Darn 'beep' stoped working after installing Stretch in place of Jessie

On 08/01/2017 01:13 PM, Juan R. de Silva wrote: On Tue, 01 Aug 2017 17:17:05 +0200, Dejan Jocic wrote: On 01-08-17, RavenLX wrote: Having it work out-of-the-box would be nice. After a fresh install, I have a bash script I run that installs all the apps I use and configures them. Sometimes

Re: Darn 'beep' stoped working after installing Stretch in place of Jessie

On 08/01/2017 11:24 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Tue, 01 Aug 2017, Dejan Jocic wrote: On 01-08-17, RavenLX wrote: Having it work out-of-the-box would be nice. After a fresh install, I have a bash script I run that installs all the apps I use and configures them. Sometimes though

Re: Darn 'beep' stoped working after installing Stretch in place of Jessie

On 08/01/2017 11:17 AM, Dejan Jocic wrote: On 01-08-17, RavenLX wrote: Having it work out-of-the-box would be nice. After a fresh install, I have a bash script I run that installs all the apps I use and configures them. Sometimes though, there are things that a user needs to answer. Thus, if I

[SOLVED] Re: KDE: GIMP tool tips are blank

On 07/29/2017 06:04 AM, Curt wrote: On 2017-07-28, RavenLX <rave...@sitesplace.net> wrote: I am using the default theme "Breeze" for both GTK and KDE (ie. never changed it) in KDE. Whenever I use gimp and hover over something, the tool tip is blank. Now I am not so sure if

Re: Darn 'beep' stoped working after installing Stretch in place of Jessie

On 07/31/2017 05:21 PM, Juan R. de Silva wrote: Hi folks, I installed (fresh install instead of an upgrade) Debian Stretch on my laptop. The installation is full success without any problem except a little one - 'beep' does not produce a sound neither from CLI nor from a bash scripts. I had

KDE: GIMP tool tips are blank

I am using the default theme "Breeze" for both GTK and KDE (ie. never changed it) in KDE. Whenever I use gimp and hover over something, the tool tip is blank. Now I am not so sure if it's GTK related or not because when I hover over something in Thunderbird, the tool tips are black with white

Re: video driver?

On 07/18/2017 01:43 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 22:38:55 -0500 Doug wrote: Hello Doug, I get so sick of this! Did you PAY for your nvidia software? No? then Anyone that buys an nVidia chipset GFX card pays for the nVidia drivers - whether they use

Re: How to gain control over the system?

On 07/12/2017 09:21 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [snip] I've been following this back-and-forth for a while. Yes, I think it's a good idea to use the root account as little as possible. Myself, I use sudo in the overwhelming majority of cases. But I learnt the hard way that sometimes it's a

Re: How to gain control over the system?

On 07/09/2017 06:11 PM, Kaj Persson wrote: Hi Jimmy, Well, I did not follow your suggestion exactly, but as people has said, the root account is already and always there, even it has not been assigned a password. So, against my real whish, not to activate the root account, I gave the command

Re: [Stretch] apt-get has no updates?

On 07/05/2017 08:20 AM, Dejan Jocic wrote: [snipped original message] As explained before, settings for unattended-upgrades are in the /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades. You can set it to download and install just security updates, which is default. Or, you can set it to download and

Re: [Stretch] apt-get has no updates?

On 07/02/2017 10:32 AM, Dejan Jocic wrote: On 02-07-17, RavenLX wrote: On 07/01/2017 03:54 PM, Larry Dighera wrote: On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 16:31:37 -0400, you wrote: Someone else mentioned unattended upgrades, which is a thing I have never used, and which is also a thing I would disable if I

Re: [Stretch] apt-get has no updates?

On 07/01/2017 12:39 PM, David Wright wrote: On Fri 30 Jun 2017 at 22:46:35 (+0200), Dejan Jocic wrote: On 30-06-17, David Wright wrote: I'm not sure what this is all about; unattended-upgrades appears to have been maintained by the same person since the days of etch, a decade ago. What

Re: [Stretch] apt-get has no updates?

On 06/30/2017 08:54 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 06/30/2017 06:56 AM, RavenLX wrote: I think I might have a problem. I do the sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and ever since I have installed Debian 9 (after the official release) I have not seen any updates. Yet in Ubuntu

Re: [Stretch] apt-get has no updates?

On 06/30/2017 12:34 PM, Dejan Jocic wrote: On 30-06-17, RavenLX wrote: If you have unattended-upgrades package installed and it is configured to fetch and install security updates only ( which is default ), that is place to look for upgraded packages. You can also configure unattended

Re: [Stretch] apt-get has no updates?

On 07/01/2017 03:54 PM, Larry Dighera wrote: On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 16:31:37 -0400, you wrote: Someone else mentioned unattended upgrades, which is a thing I have never used, and which is also a thing I would disable if I ever found it running. But that's just me. I would like to do that but

Re: [Stretch] apt-get has no updates?

On 06/30/2017 10:30 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 10:24:15AM -0400, RavenLX wrote: Here's what's on the system: ravenlx@hpg7:~$ uname -r 4.9.0-3-amd64 That only tells you the package name, not the version. Use "uname -a" to get the actual running version, ra

Re: [Stretch] apt-get has no updates?

On 06/30/2017 10:06 AM, Dejan Jocic wrote: On 30-06-17, RavenLX wrote: I think I might have a problem. I do the sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and ever since I have installed Debian 9 (after the official release) I have not seen any updates. Yet in Ubuntu 14.04 server

Re: [Stretch] apt-get has no updates?

On 06/30/2017 10:04 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 09:56:16AM -0400, RavenLX wrote: I think I might have a problem. I do the sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and ever since I have installed Debian 9 (after the official release) I have not seen any updates

[Stretch] apt-get has no updates?

I think I might have a problem. I do the sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and ever since I have installed Debian 9 (after the official release) I have not seen any updates. Yet in Ubuntu 14.04 server there were updates to the kernel and to Apache. I've been watching

Re: Nice email thanking the stretch release

On 06/28/2017 04:32 PM, Ana Guerrero Lopez wrote: Hi folks, After the release announcement, I got a bunch of direct emails. Plenty of "thank you", "yeah", "finally!" and of course, a few "UNSUBSCRIBE" ;) The email below stood out and I thought it would be nice to share it with the projet. The

Re: [Stretch] Fix for not network after installing without desktop

On 06/26/2017 08:24 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: [snip] If I had to guess, I would guess that the OP's system is a laptop, and the OP is attempting to use a wireless network of some kind. There may be setups where n-m handles wireless stuff particularly well. You guessed right. I am sorry I

Re: [Stretch] Fix for not network after installing without desktop

On 06/24/2017 03:33 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 24 Jun 2017 at 11:07:13 +0200, Erwan David wrote: Le 06/24/17 à 04:43, RavenLX a écrit : I want to share with everyone a fix for not getting network / internet if you're installing Debian without a desktop (ie. not selecting a desktop AND Unchecking

Re: [Stretch] Fix for not network after installing without desktop

On 06/24/2017 06:44 AM, Brian wrote: On Fri 23 Jun 2017 at 22:43:40 -0400, RavenLX wrote: I want to share with everyone a fix for not getting network / internet if you're installing Debian without a desktop (ie. not selecting a desktop AND Unchecking the Debian Desktop Environment option

Re: [Stretch] Fix for not network after installing without desktop

On 06/24/2017 05:38 AM, Brian wrote: On Fri 23 Jun 2017 at 22:43:40 -0400, RavenLX wrote: I want to share with everyone a fix for not getting network / internet if you're installing Debian without a desktop (ie. not selecting a desktop AND Unchecking the Debian Desktop Environment option

Re: [Stretch] Fix for not network after installing without desktop

On 06/24/2017 04:01 AM, Curt wrote: On 2017-06-24, RavenLX <rave...@sitesplace.net> wrote: 3. Execute this: apt-install network-manager Is that right? Or is it not rather "apt install" without the hyphen (I'm still Wheezing so I'm unsure). Yes. There's no 'apt-get' wh

[Stretch] Fix for not network after installing without desktop

I want to share with everyone a fix for not getting network / internet if you're installing Debian without a desktop (ie. not selecting a desktop AND Unchecking the Debian Desktop Environment option). If you install as I mentioned above and reboot, you get the command prompt to log into

Re: Debian 9 - Stretch has been released!

On 06/19/2017 10:20 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 06/18/2017 04:28 AM, RavenLX wrote: On 06/17/2017 11:42 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/ Cheers! I was there in the IRC chat channels while they were working on it and when

Re: Debian 9.0.0 iso

On 06/20/2017 11:35 PM, sare...@att.net wrote: > The full version of Debian 9.0.0 iso will not install > from a flash drive. It boots into the live desktop with > no option to install to hard drive. The CD version will > install. The one from the flash drive looks for a CD > after choosing the

How To: Install Minimal KDE in Stretch

I've figured out how to install a *bare minimal* KDE in Stretch: 1. When installing Debian to your computer, do NOT select to install "Debian Desktop" or ANY desktop option. Instead, install print server and system base *only* (nothing else). Complete the install and reboot. 2. Log in at the

Re: where to submit low security vulnerability in .profile?

On 06/18/2017 05:05 AM, Nicolas George wrote: Le decadi 30 prairial, an CCXXV, David Bunch a écrit : This could be a potential security vulnerability because if the user account of a uesr with 'su' power, an attacker could place a malicious 'su', 'ls', and 'which' in their ~/bin directory which

Re: where to submit low security vulnerability in .profile?

On 06/18/2017 12:56 AM, David Bunch wrote: Hi, I'm not sure where or how or even if i should submit a bug small security vulnerability in the default .profile that is created in each users home directory. .profile searches for a ~/bin directory and if it finds it prepends it to PATH like so:

Re: testing: odd? upgrade today for gnutls-bin to unstable version

On 06/18/2017 06:38 AM, songbird wrote: i have my preferences set in /etc/apt/apt.conf to select testing as the default, but it still grabbed the unstable version. [snip] There was a lot said in IRC that one should *not* (even if told to) put "testing" or "stable" in their sources.list

Re: Debian 9 "Stretch" released

On 06/18/2017 02:22 AM, Ana Guerrero Lopez wrote: [snipped header] > After 26 months of development the Debian project is proud to present > its new stable version 9 (code name "Stretch"), which will be supported > for the next 5 years thanks to the combined work of the Debian Security > team

Re: Stretch release today - How are you upgrading?

On 06/18/2017 06:58 AM, Fungi4All wrote: > From: nemomm...@gmail.com >> >> I"m going to wait about a week to 10 days after Stretch"s release >> as Stable before installing while checking this list for any problems. >> If all proves well, then clean, dual-boot install. > > So you fear something

Re: Debian 9 - Stretch has been released!

On 06/17/2017 11:42 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/ Cheers! I was there in the IRC chat channels while they were working on it and when they released it. It was the first time in YEARS I been in IRC. Great folks there and they

Re: Stretch release today - How are you upgrading?

On 06/17/2017 12:27 PM, Matthew McKinnon wrote: On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 09:17:22AM -0400, RavenLX wrote: Anyone know of any "online" release parties? You can join them in IRC and idle and follow what is happening with the release Server: irc.debian.org Channles #debian-release, #

Re: Stretch release today - How are you upgrading?

On 06/17/2017 12:49 PM, RavenLX wrote: On 06/17/2017 12:27 PM, Matthew McKinnon wrote: On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 09:17:22AM -0400, RavenLX wrote: Anyone know of any "online" release parties? You can join them in IRC and idle and follow what is happening with the releas

Re: Stretch release today - How are you upgrading?

On 06/17/2017 09:51 AM, Teemu Likonen wrote: rave...@sitesplace.net [2017-06-17 09:17:22-04] wrote: My question is, how are people upgrading? By following the release notes (which I recommend): https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/releasenotes (I upgraded a week ago.) Great resource!

Re: Stretch release today - How are you upgrading?

On 06/17/2017 09:22 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 09:17:22 -0400 RavenLX <rave...@sitesplace.net> wrote: Hello RavenLX, Today (Sunday June 17, 2017) Say that again; *Sunday* 17th?... ;-) LOL! I meant to type Saturday and it came out wrong. See, I need to u

Stretch release today - How are you upgrading?

Today (Sunday June 17, 2017) seems to be the day they are going to "officially" release Stretch! I never did get my laptops upgraded as I'm creating an installation script to run post-install to install and configure applications, utilities, services, etc. that I normally use. My question is,

Re: watchdog did not stop (on rebooting)

On 06/07/2017 07:33 PM, Dekks Herton wrote: If you have a thinkpad and use tlp you can set the NMI watchdog to off in /etc/default/tlp I do have tlp installed. Here's what is in the file. Looks like it's already disabled: # Kernel NMI Watchdog: # 0=disable (default, saves power),

watchdog did not stop (on rebooting)

I was trying to find a way to fix this warning on my Thinkpad. I have found out that it is normal for this to happen and can safely be ignored. Reference links: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=153205

How To Fix: Firewire IRQ Errors on Reboot

I would like to share another discovery. This one fixed my firewire IRQ errors when rebooting my ThinkPad T61. (Not-So-Obligatory) Disclaimer: --- While, I do not notice any change in overall functionality of the laptop as a result of this fix, I also do not know

How to Fix: tpm0 Errors on Boot (Stretch)

I thought I'd share a discovery with you guys in case anyone here happens to try using Stretch on a ThinkPad laptop. I have installed Stretch on mine and am testing things out. I don't know if this would resolve things on other computers, but maybe it might help in at least diagnosing some

Re: Error on install: Repository "couldn't be accessed"

On 05/26/2017 04:02 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote: On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 07:36:08AM -0400, RavenLX wrote: On 05/23/2017 10:07 AM, Robert Hardy (r.hardy) wrote: Err http://deb.debian.org jessie-updates/main Translation-en In my setup it's: http://deb.debian.org jessie/updates main contrib non

Sending Attachments to the List [was Re: Samsung ML-1915 printer]

On 05/22/2017 06:01 PM, Fungi4All wrote: can anyone email attachments to the list, I thought you couldn't do it. maybe use that paste.debian.org? I saw an attachment. It said: emptyfile.bz2 and in it was an "emptyfile". I do not know if that was what you intended or if the list server did

Re: Error on install: Repository "couldn't be accessed"

On 05/21/2017 11:46 PM, Matthew McKinnon wrote: Well I made my first contribution to the Debian Community. Made myself an account on the Wiki. It has now been updated with the new link - http://deb.debian.org Thank you! :) Ever since the announcement that the ftp* was going down later this

Re: Error on install: Repository "couldn't be accessed"

On 05/23/2017 10:07 AM, Robert Hardy (r.hardy) wrote: Err http://deb.debian.org jessie-updates/main Translation-en In my setup it's: http://deb.debian.org jessie/updates main contrib non-free Note that it's jessie/updates not jessie-updates. Replace the hyphen with a dash in your

Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust

On 05/21/2017 05:40 PM, David Christensen wrote: As I understand it: * 'apt-get upgrade' is for rolling forward to a new minor revision -- e.g. Debian 8.7 to Debian 8.8 -- and/or new packages -- e.g. icedove 1:45.6.0-1~deb8u1 to thunderbird 1:45.8.0-3~deb8u1). * 'apt-get dist-upgrade'

Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust

On 05/20/2017 01:00 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 05/19/2017 07:19 PM, David Christensen wrote: I've been having problems with Xfce wallpaper on Debian 8.8 for a month or more. It broke after an apt-get update/ apt-get upgrade. I filed a bug report, received one reply, tried the suggestions to

Re: [trinity-users] Re: Strange clicking noise from my laptop hard drive

On 05/19/2017 09:24 AM, Philip Ashmore wrote: I got a new hard disk. I still get the same clicking, but now it also sometimes happens before I type in the passphrase to unlock the luks encrypted lvm partition the OS sits on. Maybe it's the hard disk controller. I also took out the Broadcom

Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions

On 05/18/2017 09:35 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote: This is the most unbelievable overkill. Windows VMs work just fine in VirtualBox. When it comes to backup, I have my backup scripts check the machines are down and if they are, include the virtual disks in the main system backup, and if not, skip them

Re: Error on install: Repository "couldn't be accessed"

On 05/18/2017 09:06 AM, Liam O'Toole wrote: [snipped...] I had that happened. I then changed all the http://ftp.* to http://httpredir.debian.org. I learned of this here: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList#Example_sources.list Then I apt-get update and it worked fine from there. Just a FYI:

Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions

On 05/17/2017 12:42 PM, craigswin wrote: On 05/17/2017 06:03 AM, RavenLX wrote: Those Windows VMs though are a pain. Just warning you. If you don't absolutely NEED one, I'd advise not even bothering. I'm seriously considering just deleting mine. Can you expand on that? New to VMs

Re: Error on install: Repository "couldn't be accessed"

On 05/17/2017 12:20 PM, Robert Hardy (r.hardy) wrote: Hi, I received this message when installing from the Debian 8.8 netinstall ISO (debian-8.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso) Initial error was for ftp.uk.debian.org . I tried several others (including ftp.fr.debian.org

Re: Update Notifier

On 05/17/2017 08:59 AM, Frank wrote: Op 17-05-17 om 14:42 schreef RavenLX: I love that Debian doesn't have an updater/notifier. Erm... gnome-packagekit + pk-update-icon ? No thanks. Not for me. But I think the OP might like it. :) I actually wasn't being sarcastic in my message. I actually

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

On 05/16/2017 11:23 PM, Ric Moore wrote: On 05/16/2017 11:04 PM, SDA wrote: On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 08:50:45AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: *ROFL!* ;/ I've been a computer _user_ for a half-century. About 5 years ago I started seriously plotting my escape from the gloppy GUI of an

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

On 05/16/2017 02:18 PM, deloptes wrote: Thanatos Incarnate wrote: My 2 cents: If you're used to Debian Stable level stability, then Testing might get on your nerves with its tiny little paper cuts (Firefox crashing, Thunderbird not knowing what to do with your Icedove profile, KDE having GUI

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

On 05/16/2017 07:22 AM, Thanatos Incarnate wrote: Hello there, My 2 cents: If you're used to Debian Stable level stability, then Testing might get on your nerves with its tiny little paper cuts (Firefox crashing, Thunderbird not knowing what to do with your Icedove profile, KDE having GUI

Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions

On 05/14/2017 07:51 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: I've never used a VM but I wanted to ask some newbie questions about them. I regularly use Virtual Machines quite a lot for testing purposes. I'll be glad to cover your questions. For these questions, I'll be answering them based on using

Re: Update Notifier

On 05/14/2017 04:03 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote: On Fri, May 05, 2017 at 04:32:44PM +, sare...@att.net wrote: Why doesn't Debian 8 Cinnamon notify when updates are ready to install after all these years Debian has existed? Don't tell me there is one, because after installing Debian I waited a

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

On 05/13/2017 12:40 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: I have a partition whose label is "common". I could almost smack myself in the head. I had done that when I used to dual-boot Windows / Linux (now you can see why I'm not a fan of dual-boot, I guess! LOL!). I also used to dual boot SolydX and

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

On 05/10/2017 09:19 AM, Michael Milliman wrote: On 05/10/2017 06:57 AM, songbird wrote: [...] if you wanted to you could have one partition for booting the stable distribution and only update that when you have a good time for that. the thing with these setups is that in Debian you don't

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

On 05/10/2017 07:57 AM, songbird wrote: you can set up several partitions with different levels of fun if you want. My spare laptop has a 250 GB HD and the laptop I use all the time has a 600 GB HD. I already have both partitioned for *one* OS - Debian 8. I really don't want to go through

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

My system is used for work (I work from home exclusively) and stuff I do sometimes can be mission-critical in that if I'm notified, I might have to go and do some work right away on something important. Customers would be relying on my ability to fix things. So, I really can't afford something

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

On 05/07/2017 04:33 PM, cbannis...@kinect.co.nz wrote: By the way, the words "unstable" "stable" as used in the distribution names don't mean likely to crash, --- it refers to the amount of changes occurring, i.e. 'stable' has no new packages entering it, and supposedly only security updates,

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

On 05/06/2017 08:07 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: That is most definitely NOT a dumb question!! It is difficult at times to determine where to report bugs. However, if the bug is within the Debian distribution, I would use the Debian bug reporter to report it, the development team will work with

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

On 05/06/2017 06:46 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: beta testing. Usually, by the time Stretch reaches the 'frozen' stage, most of the major issues have been worked out, and it is reasonably ready for production. However, they may still be a few problems to be worked out...it is a beta after all.

Re: Debian 8.8 Released but can't get via apt-get?

On 05/06/2017 05:07 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: You get the updates normally. If you managed to update to 8.7 just fine, likely that means your mirror just doesn't have sync'd yet. Wait a few hours, and try again. Now it works! I just updated my main laptop. Sven Hartge was right

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

On 05/06/2017 06:31 PM, Fungi4All wrote: First check the hardware differences that are supported, then take a look at the bug lists for testing and unstable to see if you are using any buggy packages that do not apply on stable. If you don't see anything that relates to your use you will be

How stable is the frozen stretch?

I am thinking about trying out Stretch (Debian 9) in either a spare laptop or a virtual machine. If I like it I might just point my sources list to that repo on both laptops if it's stable enough. My question is, once it's "frozen", how stable is it or is it still pretty much not suitable for

Debian 8.8 Released but can't get via apt-get?

I have 8.7 on my system and read that 8.8 is now available. I did an update yesterday (I prefer to do this at the command line). I'm still at 8.7, so after the announcement I did another update. I got no updates. (sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade showed no updates