Re: Xorg replaces TTY1

2015-11-22 Thread berenger . morel
Le 22.11.2015 10:51, Bert Riding a écrit : On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 00:40:01 +0100, berenger.morel wrote: Hello. There is a behavior change I noticed when I switched to Jessie, which have always annoyed me but that I never tried to resolve. The change is that now, when I use startx on TTY1,

Xorg replaces TTY1

2015-11-21 Thread berenger . morel
Hello. There is a behavior change I noticed when I switched to Jessie, which have always annoyed me but that I never tried to resolve. The change is that now, when I use startx on TTY1, Xorg replaces the TTY. I understand that it is not a problem for 99% of users, but I would like to know

Re: Can't get sound to work

2015-01-16 Thread berenger . morel
Le 16.01.2015 19:24, Robert Latest a écrit : On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 19:43:23 -0500 Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/15/2015 03:54 PM, Hans wrote: First questions: Are you running pulseaudio or alsa? I don't know. I seem to have both on my system. I don't know what the difference

Re: Have I been hacked?

2015-01-06 Thread berenger . morel
Le 06.01.2015 19:04, Danny a écrit : However, I have a few other weird looking files in the /boot directory. Can you guys please have a look at them and tell me if they are normal or not. # drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4.0K Jan 6 19:35 .

Re: is sshd really restarting?

2014-12-18 Thread berenger . morel
Le 18.12.2014 18:13, Harry Putnam a écrit : Setup: very new install of gentoo Why not asking on a gentoo list, instead of a Debian one? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: easiest way to shut down all network services besides ssh?

2014-12-18 Thread berenger . morel
Le 18.12.2014 06:08, Britton Kerin a écrit : I have a system that I would like to make accessible only by ssh. No apache telnet ftp anything else. What is the easiest way to achieve this? It came from a vendor with a slew of package of all sorts, so I don't even know everything that I want

Re: is sshd really restarting?

2014-12-18 Thread berenger . morel
Le 18.12.2014 18:13, Harry Putnam a écrit : Setup: very new install of gentoo When I restart ssh like so: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart I see very little output. Should it be more verbose? , |harry sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart | Restarting ssh (via systemctl): ssh.service

Re: Machine hangs at boot

2014-12-16 Thread berenger . morel
Le 15.12.2014 19:37, German a écrit : Just for the hack of it, I tried startx and the system hangs. So it seems to me that it is server issues. Is that possible to look at server logs? Where are they located? You can find the logs /var/log. Ps: No need to CC me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-15 Thread berenger . morel
Le 14.12.2014 22:48, mourik jan heupink - merit a écrit : Hi, berenger.morel writes: In France, the electric network provide 220V to everyone. Are you sure? Starting from 2000 or so, the whole of europe has gradually changed to 230v, as a compromise between UK (240v) and the rest of europe

Re: Machine hangs at boot

2014-12-15 Thread berenger . morel
Le 15.12.2014 14:00, Frederic Marchal a écrit : On Monday 15 December 2014 15:48:40 German wrote: Oh OK, there really is such a disk. Unfortunately I can't remove it. My machine was running smoothly for about two months and after kernel update this thing happened. Is sdb supposed to

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-15 Thread berenger . morel
Le 15.12.2014 15:22, Tony van der Hoff a écrit : On 15/12/14 14:30, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 14.12.2014 22:48, mourik jan heupink - merit a écrit : Hi, berenger.morel writes: In France, the electric network provide 220V to everyone. Are you sure? Starting from 2000 or so,

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-14 Thread berenger . morel
Le 13.12.2014 05:10, Joel Rees a écrit : 2014/12/13 1:29 : Le 12.12.2014 16:46, Joel Rees a écrit : I did say it was not the dbus you download from freedesktop.org [2] [5], didn't I? ;-/ Indeed. My understanding is that it is not just a port. Re-written from scratch, I

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-14 Thread berenger . morel
Le 13.12.2014 00:07, Ric Moore a écrit : On 12/12/2014 07:47 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 12.12.2014 11:43, claude juif a écrit : If i had to answer this question the way i understand it i will say : Browsers, Mails and sometimes Games. This is how i understand typical

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-14 Thread berenger . morel
Le 13.12.2014 20:55, Joe a écrit : On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 11:53:48 -0500 Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Does it not disturb anyone that most of the responses to this question have been about how the question was phrased, even though the intent was obvious. What does it say

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 11.12.2014 18:21, Richard Owlett a écrit : berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: [snip] Now, if you think multi-user OSes are not that good, I think there is an OS with a different kernel somewhere (not Linux, not *BSD, not Hurd, not Windows, not ReactOS...) which wants to build a single

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 11.12.2014 20:27, Martin Read a écrit : On 11/12/14 17:21, Richard Owlett wrote: There is a market (how large???) for a single user single task computer and OS. It's very large indeed! Apple, and the various customers (e.g. Samsung, LG, HTC) of Google and Microsoft, are quite

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.12.2014 06:13, seeker5528 a écrit : On 12/11/2014 8:33 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 08.12.2014 18:59, Marty a écrit : If this proves feasible, that's what I hope to do. I just want to know if anyone thinks it's a good idea, before I commit time and resources. My

Re: New user question

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.12.2014 11:00, Lisi Reisz a écrit : On Friday 12 December 2014 09:21:31 Jeffrey Needle wrote: Hi. I'm pretty new to Debian. I just downloaded the 64-bit .iso and have just installed it. I have a question about the date display on the top panel. My understanding is that clicking on

Re: automation of xrandr

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 29.11.2014 15:58, pe...@easthope.ca a écrit : https://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 helped to establish a usable multi-screen configuration. Now what is the recommendation to automate? Put the xrandr command in .profile? Sorry for delay, lot of mails btw. Personally, I use

RE: C++ compiler g++-4.9

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 11.12.2014 13:20, Bonno Bloksma a écrit : Hi, On 12/10/2014 01:23 PM, Nick Mpallas wrote: I am building a platform and I need to compile apache mesos from sources. The issue is that the guys the require support for specific c++11 features that in the 4.7 compiler currently supported by

Re: C++ compiler g++-4.9

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 10.12.2014 13:23, Nick Mpallas a écrit : Hi guys, I am building a platform and I need to compile apache mesos from sources. The issue is that the guys the require support for specific c++11 features that in the 4.7 compiler currently supported by debian aren't there. Will the g++ compiler

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 09.12.2014 17:49, Marty a écrit : As for what is growing, cloud computing, so they can look at our data and keep us safe. Cloud computing was here before the buzz-word. Cloud computing is composed by: _ mail server + web MUA _ FTP server + web interface _ wtf server + wtf web interface

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 09.12.2014 09:59, Curt a écrit : On 2014-12-09, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: So, what up to date operating system is, now? You cut his link to plan9; maybe that's it. Can plan9 fully use 64 bit archs, modern GPUs and other things like that? By modern, I mean, less than 5

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 11.12.2014 05:05, Marty a écrit : On 12/10/2014 10:16 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote: My wife, daughter and I each login to a separate vt. It makes no real difference who logs on to which vt, but usually we each log in to a particular vt. snip Space is the reason for a single computer. If I

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.12.2014 13:05, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : On Jo, 11 dec 14, 17:33:51, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Plus, it's not portable (anyone have seen dbus on windows? not sure, but I doubt it's on *BSD, too) unlike sockets. From http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus/ D-Bus

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 11.12.2014 20:38, Ric Moore a écrit : On 12/11/2014 01:17 AM, Bret Busby wrote: So much metaphorical male ovine faeces. And, that is not directed at Lisi; just at the people trying to impose their dubious opinions and classifications, of what is, and, what has been, and, of what

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.12.2014 13:19, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : On Vi, 12 dec 14, 12:41:38, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Oh, sorry, I just forgot that... linux is not desktop ready, right :) (day of troll here ;) ) but more seriously, currently, the apt/rpm/etc idea is being adopted by other desktop

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.12.2014 13:37, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : On Vi, 12 dec 14, 13:32:56, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Plus, there is also the history: everyone knows what Windows looks like, even if they do not knows what is Windows. So, things are a little more complicated than the current

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.12.2014 11:43, claude juif a écrit : If i had to answer this question the way i understand it i will say :  Browsers, Mails and sometimes Games. This is how i understand typical home computer today. Is this typical use, or average use? :p Because I would add, to typical, office suits

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.12.2014 13:14, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : On Vi, 12 dec 14, 11:35:03, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: So, you have to choose between: _ having a daemon running everytime, and an application which needs to listen at it's socket everytime (I guess it's how dbus works? If someone

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.12.2014 14:54, Richard Owlett a écrit : I.E. Who is responsible for the integrity of *MY* system? The correct answer is the proverbial Me, Myself, and I. It is most definitely not an individual nor group whom I've never met. There is most definitely a need for such systems as the vast

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.12.2014 14:55, Joel Rees a écrit : 2014/12/12 21:08 : Le 12.12.2014 13:05, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : On Jo, 11 dec 14, 17:33:51, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org [2] wrote: Plus, it's not portable (anyone have seen dbus on windows? not sure, but I doubt it's on *BSD, too)

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.12.2014 14:00, Martin Read a écrit : Notably, there is neither a billing framework, nor a place to put one. True. But it would not be that hard to adapt it. Let's try a basic algo: #echo my.paying.repo /etc/apt/sources.list #apt-get update #mybillingscrip PackageIWantToPayFor - ask

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.12.2014 13:58, claude juif a écrit : 2014-12-12 13:47 GMT+01:00 : Le 12.12.2014 11:43, claude juif a écrit : If i had to answer this question the way i understand it i will say :  Browsers, Mails and sometimes Games. This is how i understand typical home computer today. Is this

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.12.2014 16:46, Joel Rees a écrit : I did say it was not the dbus you download from freedesktop.org [5], didn't I? ;-/ Indeed. My understanding is that it is not just a port. Re-written from scratch, I think. Stuff that just tries to be a lazy man's sockets largely left out, I think.

Re: Migrating GTK+ project to windows

2014-12-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 27.11.2014 07:35, Kevin O'Gorman a écrit : On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Morel Bérenger wrote: Le Mar 18 novembre 2014 16:51, Kevin O'Gorman a écrit : I have a project that I'd like to migrate to Windows.  I'll likely be using Windows 8.1. GTK+ is portable, or at least that what

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-11 Thread berenger . morel
Le 08.12.2014 18:59, Marty a écrit : On 12/08/2014 10:43 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 08.12.2014 14:18, Marty a écrit : I almost tagged this off-topic but it's directed toward ordinary Debian users (with developer backgrounds). I first raised this on modular-debian but I

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-11 Thread berenger . morel
Le 10.12.2014 21:34, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : On Mi, 10 dec 14, 13:27:21, Paul E Condon wrote: What is 'PoC'? Probably will be blindly obvious once I've been told. Most likely Proof of Concept. Yes. By PoC I mean a small set of program/library which demonstrates that something is

Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?

2014-12-08 Thread berenger . morel
Le 08.12.2014 14:18, Marty a écrit : I almost tagged this off-topic but it's directed toward ordinary Debian users (with developer backgrounds). I first raised this on modular-debian but I want to get some ideas from a wider audience. I'm starting to get familiar with Plan 9 and D-Bus, to

Re: Haven't seen this ssh output before

2014-12-08 Thread berenger . morel
Le 04.12.2014 11:33, Jochen Spieker a écrit : berenger.mo...@neutralite.org: debsecan. This is a tool which lists CVE (Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures) that the packages you installed contains. I think you might get some hints if you make a diff between the old (you said you have

Re: Maildrop - howto deliver email that contains the word systemd directly to trash with .mailfilter?

2014-12-08 Thread berenger . morel
Le 18.11.2014 15:40, Toby a écrit : Hello, the subject says it all. I'm starting to have problems finding useful mails from this list. They are hiding somewhere between all systemd arguments. Since I'm not interested in what init system that will be the default and are trusting that my boxes

Re: udev memory problem when trying to plug a disk with corrupted partition table

2014-12-03 Thread berenger . morel
Le 02.12.2014 19:27, tv.deb...@googlemail.com a écrit : On 02/12/2014 20:48, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: [cut] Also, what is EBR (or EPBR, which seems to be some sort of enhanced whatever may be a EBR)? Extended Boot Record on DOS disks ? Where information about extended partition

Re: Haven't seen this ssh output before

2014-12-03 Thread berenger . morel
Le 27.11.2014 00:04, Harry Putnam a écrit : Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes: I'm not at all clear on how one would go about making an adjustment in sshd_config to allow the algs used by my REMOTE-sol to be recognized. REMOTE-sol does not appear to be using OpenSSH .. maybe a solaris

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

2014-12-02 Thread berenger . morel
Le 02.12.2014 08:05, Patrick Bartek a écrit : and more and more developers will start writing apps with systemd, or parts of it, as a dependency for the features it offers. It's their choice - likewise it's your choice *not* to write alternatives. It 'sounds' like you're proposing a

Re: XDG Standard is not evil (was: Re: Why focus on systemd?)

2014-12-02 Thread berenger . morel
Le 28.11.2014 15:32, Rusi Mody a écrit : However there are some issues: if the software-versions in these dont match up then its precisely these XDG files that tread on each others' toes across OSes. Well... if configuration files are not both upward and downward compatible between

Re: XDG Standard is not evil (was: Re: Why focus on systemd?)

2014-12-02 Thread berenger . morel
Le 27.11.2014 03:04, Serge a écrit : Later some people started to abuse those directories and put there files, that never supposed to be there. Those people don't really think about standards or unification. Usually they just enable displaying hidden files in their file manager, see a lot of

Re: udev memory problem when trying to plug a disk with corrupted partition table

2014-12-02 Thread berenger . morel
Le 20.11.2014 22:26, Scott Ferguson a écrit : On 21/11/14 06:45, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Scott Ferguson a écrit : Might be worth fscking the disk first in case that's where the problem lies. Why ? fsck works on filesystems, not disks or partition tables. Good question - because I didn't

udev memory problem when trying to plug a disk with corrupted partition table

2014-11-17 Thread berenger . morel
Hello. I think most of my problem's description is in title, but here are some more informations. I have a hard disk on which I tried a... quite unusual... procedure to install another OS. My try in this procedure [1] did not went well at all, but it's not the subject of this mail. Now,

Re: Web site conformance and various browsers

2014-11-17 Thread berenger . morel
Le 17.11.2014 14:45, songbird a écrit : sometimes i have issues with a website and i cannot tell if it is a problem with the browser or a problem with the website. obviously i am not a website developer so this sort of issue isn't clear where i need to poke at things more... are there any

Re: udev memory problem when trying to plug a disk with corrupted partition table

2014-11-17 Thread berenger . morel
Le 17.11.2014 17:55, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh a écrit : On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Now, fact is that the hard-disk partition table is no longer correct, and when I plug it (it is an USB HD) into a Debian system, it makes udev eating all my memory, and more.

Re: HURD

2014-11-14 Thread berenger . morel
Le 14.11.2014 11:14, Darac Marjal a écrit : On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 09:51:42PM -0400, Jetro Costa wrote: When Debian Hurd gona be ready for us for x64 plataform? Probably when the upstream develops a 64-bit version. Which, according to [1], is currently never. [1]

Re: Re: Valuing non-code contributions -- was Re: systemd - so much energy wasted in quarreling

2014-11-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 11.11.2014 22:53, Miles Fidelman a écrit : On a broader note, Debian, Linux, *nix in general, and FOSS software are a complex and highly-interdependent ecosystem. Yes some people just take, but an awful lot of us contribute in various ways, in various places, to the overall ecosystem - be it

Re: forks, derivatives, other distros - what are you thinking/doing

2014-11-10 Thread berenger . morel
Le 09.11.2014 05:05, Hendrik Boom a écrit : On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 09:32:57 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: 1. What are your issues, reasons for doing so - general and/or specific? I've had trouble with passwords in the network-manager starting a few months ago. I tried a few other wifi

Re: Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-10 Thread berenger . morel
Le 10.11.2014 13:49, fsmithred a écrit : Pinned dbus and libpulse0 to wheezy versions and util-linux to the last jessie version that didn't need libsystemd0. It seems to be working, so far, but as mentioned, it may break at some point with upgrades. I wonder if there is some compilation

Re: forks, derivatives, other distros - what are you thinking/doing

2014-11-06 Thread berenger . morel
Le 06.11.2014 00:40, Nuno Magalhães a écrit : A sane approach would be to improve the bits that neet improving, like the (sadly named) uselessd, openrc, etc. Just a note, here. Uselessd is a well-named systemd's fork. Well named, because it does less that systemd. And it does have the

Re: forks, derivatives, other distros - what are you thinking/doing

2014-11-06 Thread berenger . morel
Le 06.11.2014 10:26, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : On Mi, 05 nov 14, 09:32:57, Miles Fidelman wrote: 3. What other options/initiatives are you aware of that you've discarded or otherwise are not considering, and why? Not sure why you're not considering Debian GNU/kFreeBSD. Due to the BSD kernel

Re: Debian 6.2 and Systemd ?

2014-11-06 Thread berenger . morel
Le 05.11.2014 13:23, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI a écrit : On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 11:49:57 + Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: When I install, I set up partitions with labels.  This avoids UUIDs and uses labels instead. Many thanks; for setting the partitions with labels, is that an

Re: forks, derivatives, other distros - what are you thinking/doing

2014-11-05 Thread berenger . morel
Le 05.11.2014 15:32, Miles Fidelman a écrit : Specifically addressed to those of you who are responding to systemd, etc., by considering: - finding ways to make it easier to install/configure Debian without (or with minimal) systemd dependencies (certainly not in PID1) - migrating to another

Re: Need URGENT help : how to connect cable modem

2014-11-04 Thread berenger . morel
Le 04.11.2014 07:11, Long Wind a écrit : the ISP connect me using cable modem Now in Windows XP I need to enter user/password to connect the connection is PPPoE how to do that in Linux Thanks!!! Please, read this. http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html You might then have more

Re: umask has no man page?

2014-11-04 Thread berenger . morel
Le 03.11.2014 04:30, Joe Pfeiffer a écrit : Carl Fink c...@finknetwork.com writes: When I wanted the options for umask, I typed 'man umask' and got the man page for it as a C header diretive? (I'm not a C programmer, but it seemed to be for C header files and came from section 2.) This is

Re: terminal spreadsheet - sc fork

2014-11-04 Thread berenger . morel
Le 30.10.2014 23:23, Andrés Martinelli a écrit : Hello there!! I am working on a terminal spreadsheet based on sc, but with some adds like undo/redo.. you can find it here: https://github.com/andmarti1424/scim [1] Any new ideas and/or contribution is always welcome! Thanks! Sounds like

Re: multiple redmine sites

2014-10-30 Thread berenger . morel
Le 30.10.2014 10:42, Bram Diederik a écrit : 2014-10-29 17:19 GMT+01:00 : Le 29.10.2014 16:11, Bram Diederik a écrit : So, you probably should have one virtual host like and the other one like ? -- Yes and both there own FcgidInitialEnv X_DEBIAN_SITEID setting.  FcgidInitialEnv

Re: Suggestion for systemd and /usr on seperate partition

2014-10-30 Thread berenger . morel
Le 30.10.2014 15:35, Peter Nieman a écrit : On 30/10/14 11:35, David Baron wrote: I think this problem should be resolved. I know the newer desirable keeping of /usr on /. However, I would bet 99% of existing multi-partition Debian installations have usr on a separate partition. Historically

Re: multiple redmine sites

2014-10-29 Thread berenger . morel
Le 29.10.2014 11:04, Bram Diederik a écrit : 2014-10-28 15:59 GMT+01:00 : Le 28.10.2014 15:19, Bram Diederik a écrit : I am able to connect to the databases here is the config of the default site , dev site only has a different  X_DEBIAN_SITEID  setting e.g.  FcgidInitialEnv

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-29 Thread berenger . morel
Le 29.10.2014 06:38, Charlie a écrit : On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 13:47:26 -0400 Charles Kroeger sent: It's very maintained on linux. I suggest you try Opera beta. It's the best browser I've used in a long time. Version:26.0.1656.8 - Opera is up to date Update stream: beta System: Debian

Re: multiple redmine sites

2014-10-29 Thread berenger . morel
Le 29.10.2014 16:11, Bram Diederik a écrit : So, you probably should have one virtual host like and the other one like ? -- Yes and both there own FcgidInitialEnv X_DEBIAN_SITEID setting.  FcgidInitialEnv X_DEBIAN_SITEID default  for the 443 site FcgidInitialEnv X_DEBIAN_SITEID dev  for

Re: Lets make `eudev + uselessd` Debian packages?

2014-10-28 Thread berenger . morel
Le 28.10.2014 03:20, Martinx - ジェームズ a écrit : Hey guys, I would like to evaluate both `eudev` (or any other *udev), plus `uselessd`, on Debian sid/testing. Lets do it?! I' m planning to achieve, at least, CGroups Process with `uselessd` (no init scripts). If things goes well, I

Re: multiple redmine sites

2014-10-28 Thread berenger . morel
Le 28.10.2014 13:37, Bram Diederik a écrit : Hi all, I am setting up a bug tracking envoirment for my new job. And selected redmine for the job. All is going well but now i try to setup an sandbox environment for developers and reporters to play around.. the Debian packages states that you

Re: Lets make `eudev + uselessd` Debian packages?

2014-10-28 Thread berenger . morel
Le 28.10.2014 14:34, Jonathan Dowland a écrit : Andrei's reply has lots of useful stuff in it, I just had two things to add: On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 12:20:24AM -0200, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: If things goes well, I think that `uselessd + new udev` might be a good path to follow, mostly

Re: multiple redmine sites

2014-10-28 Thread berenger . morel
Le 28.10.2014 15:19, Bram Diederik a écrit : I am able to connect to the databases here is the config of the default site , dev site only has a different  X_DEBIAN_SITEID  setting e.g.  FcgidInitialEnv X_DEBIAN_SITEID dev --- IfModule mod_ssl.c VirtualHost *:443

Re: Linux kernel version for Jessie

2014-10-27 Thread berenger . morel
Le 27.10.2014 01:12, Santiago Vila a écrit : On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 10:56:19PM +0200, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: what kernel version will Jessie have when it became stable ? Is there any chance for newer version than 3.16.x (for example 3.17.x, 3.18.x). Is this important at all? You will

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-24 Thread berenger . morel
Le 23.10.2014 20:40, lee a écrit : berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: The only problem is bash, here: it is unable to handle multi-instances, so the histories are lost more or less randomly when I close/spawn terminals and sessions. # append history rather than overwriting it shopt

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-23 Thread berenger . morel
Le 21.10.2014 23:37, Steve Litt a écrit : On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 00:58:27 +0200 lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote: berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: But my opinion is that, it's the accumulation of tools using different slow languages, which will kill the computer's resources (shell, python2,

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-23 Thread berenger . morel
Le 20.10.2014 17:29, Steve Litt a écrit : On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 03:37:56 +0200 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: And, finally, I consider myself as a DE user. My DE is built by myself around a terminal-emulator, a tiling window manager, Which one? i3 I use Openbox, which of course

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-20 Thread berenger . morel
Le 18.10.2014 22:44, John Hasler a écrit : Steve Litt writes: The process, the questions it asked, and the automatic collection of my computer's configuration made submitting the bug trivial. *Every* project should have one of these. Unfortunately as soon as you mention email their ears

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-20 Thread berenger . morel
Le 19.10.2014 17:03, Steve Litt a écrit : Rapid Application Development, Army Surplus style, which of course makes me a pariah in the eyes of real programmers. Life's tough. Real programmers don't need RAD, they only use butterflies (1). About RAD and interpreted languages, I do not really

Re: GR proposed re: choice of init systems

2014-10-20 Thread berenger . morel
Le 18.10.2014 07:06, Steve Litt a écrit : If they vote no on the GR, then I think that unless Red Hat succeeds in systemdizing X itself, we'll (meaning those of us who care) will replace systemd-contaminated software with init-agnostic software. And for sure, boycott all systemd-dependent

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-20 Thread berenger . morel
Le 19.10.2014 16:15, Steve Litt a écrit : On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 12:47:03 +0200 Peter Nieman gmane-a...@t-online.de wrote: By the way, I am a desktop user, using fvwm. But I don't want all my applications to look and feel the same, I don't want everything to interact with everything, and I want

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-18 Thread berenger . morel
Le 18.10.2014 16:29, Peter Nieman a écrit : As far as I am concerned, I don't have the time right now to learn the officially accepted procedures of filing bug reports in Debian Just run bugreport (or is it reportbug? I don't have a Debian currently, but I'm trying to fix that :p) . It'll ask

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-18 Thread berenger . morel
Le 18.10.2014 16:14, Brian a écrit : Which once again raises the main question; what does systemd have to do with this? The original post gives an unexplained solution to a non-existent problem. Dbus is (a crap, but not only) a tool to allow applications to share informations with other

Re: recent, stable (debian-based) desktop solution without blobs?

2014-10-17 Thread berenger . morel
Le 16.10.2014 11:05, Wim Bertels a écrit : Hallo, which distro would u recommend given the following wishes: - debian/debian based - stable - recent (ie debian stable being to old for the desktop in my opinion) - no blobs (ie closed firmware for example) in the kernel or default

Re: Conflict of interest in Debian

2014-10-15 Thread berenger . morel
Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan Dowland a écrit : On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:51:07AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: Check out what single company has 30% of the gatekeepers. Surprise, surprise. Damned for their success. We want Linux to be successful, but woe betide any company that actually gets

Re: Conflict of interest in Debian

2014-10-15 Thread berenger . morel
Le 15.10.2014 12:09, Brian a écrit : On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 10:41:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan Dowland a écrit : On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:51:07AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: Check out what single company has 30% of the gatekeepers. Surprise,

Re: Conflict of interest in Debian

2014-10-15 Thread berenger . morel
Le 15.10.2014 12:37, Scott Ferguson a écrit : On 15/10/14 22:08, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 15.10.2014 12:09, Brian a écrit : On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 10:41:12 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 15.10.2014 09:11, Jonathan Dowland a écrit : On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at

Re: Debian policy on alternate init systems

2014-10-06 Thread berenger . morel
Le 04.10.2014 12:51, Joel Rees a écrit : 2014/10/04 17:30 Curt : On 2014-10-03, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org [2] wrote: I like this one, because it makes me smile. I like pieces of softwares with play on words (this translation sounds strange... is it the correct one?)

Re: (Song) Fk SystemD

2014-10-06 Thread berenger . morel
Le 04.10.2014 18:49, Tom Collins a écrit : Fuck Lennart Poettering. I have nothing against boys which love boys, but,should you really speak about that kind of preferences on an OS distribution user list? Those trolls on systemd are boring. You like it or not, won't change anything.

Re: (Song) Fk SystemD

2014-10-06 Thread berenger . morel
Le 06.10.2014 13:17, Gregory Smith a écrit : What is needed is inaction, Huh I'm not a systemd lover, you know, but what you just wrote is weird! Seriously, I have so many problems at work because people never even tries to make code more readable, more secured, because inaction is

Re: Enabling a second graphic card

2014-10-03 Thread berenger . morel
Le 01.10.2014 16:39, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org a écrit : Hello. I have recently acquired 2 (identical, 4/3 shaped) screens, so I combined them with my current favorite screen on a computer which have 2 graphic cards, but it seems that Debian did not enabled the second card. I have

Re: Debian policy on alternate init systems

2014-10-03 Thread berenger . morel
Le 02.10.2014 14:11, Marty a écrit : d-mobilize (inspiring) [...] Let me know which name you prefer. We have until the Jessie freeze to decide. Welcome to your compatible, interoperable systemd future. I like this one, because it makes me smile. I like pieces of softwares with play on words

Re: Enabling a second graphic card

2014-10-02 Thread berenger . morel
Le 01.10.2014 23:16, Floris a écrit : Op Wed, 01 Oct 2014 16:39:56 +0200 schreef berenger.mo...@neutralite.org: Hello. I have recently acquired 2 (identical, 4/3 shaped) screens, so I combined them with my current favorite screen on a computer which have 2 graphic cards, but it seems

Re: Enabling a second graphic card

2014-10-02 Thread berenger . morel
Le 02.10.2014 03:11, Ric Moore a écrit : On 10/01/2014 10:39 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Does anyone knows if nouveau is supports a configuration with 2 graphic cards, or do I have to install NVidia's drivers to do the job? Does someone have some links to documents which could

Re: Enabling a second graphic card

2014-10-02 Thread berenger . morel
Le 01.10.2014 18:51, Gábor Hársfalvi a écrit : Hi, Do you use SLI? If answer is yes -  http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/guide-how-to-enable-use-and-configure-sli-on-linux.52953 [6] is the first thing, what you need. After that I had to use my /etc/default/grub with vmalloc=320

Re: Enabling a second graphic card

2014-10-02 Thread berenger . morel
Le 01.10.2014 17:26, Sven Joachim a écrit : On 2014-10-01 16:39 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: I have recently acquired 2 (identical, 4/3 shaped) screens, so I combined them with my current favorite screen on a computer which have 2 graphic cards, but it seems that Debian did

Enabling a second graphic card

2014-10-01 Thread berenger . morel
Hello. I have recently acquired 2 (identical, 4/3 shaped) screens, so I combined them with my current favorite screen on a computer which have 2 graphic cards, but it seems that Debian did not enabled the second card. I have tried it on a temporary Ubuntu install, and it works fine out of

Re: systemd bug closed - next steps?

2014-09-22 Thread berenger . morel
Le 22.09.2014 01:51, John Hasler a écrit : Martin Read writes: consolekit is indeed the thing that systemd-logind replaces (and systemd-logind was the reason the maintainers of consolekit stopped maintaining it). So who is going to step forward and start maintaining it? Nobody needs to.

Re: mysql command waiting endlessly (lenny)

2014-09-18 Thread berenger . morel
Le 17.09.2014 18:09, Don Armstrong a écrit : On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 17.09.2014 17:33, Don Armstrong a écrit : In the future, these details would be helpful. I have said in my first post: but when it connect through the mysql program, there is no

Re: mysql command waiting endlessly (lenny)

2014-09-17 Thread berenger . morel
Le 16.09.2014 19:46, Don Armstrong a écrit : On Tue, 16 Sep 2014, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: On a old lenny, we have a software which have to connect to a server of the same LAN (we do not have physical access to any stuff, and we can only connect through ssh to that client

Re: mysql command waiting endlessly (lenny)

2014-09-17 Thread berenger . morel
Le 17.09.2014 17:33, Don Armstrong a écrit : On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 16.09.2014 19:46, Don Armstrong a écrit : Most likely, you've created a configuration where the machine in question is unable to access 3306. I do not think so, since the isql command

mysql command waiting endlessly (lenny)

2014-09-16 Thread berenger . morel
Hello. On a old lenny, we have a software which have to connect to a server of the same LAN (we do not have physical access to any stuff, and we can only connect through ssh to that client computer), but when it connect through the mysql program, there is no prompt. Through the odbc program

Re: Irony

2014-08-11 Thread berenger . morel
Le 10.08.2014 19:08, Steve Litt a écrit : On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:51:30 +0400 Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. On Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:26:40 -0400 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: Within months of my switch, oops, here comes systemd. Consider switching to the

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