Re: Issue with notebook (maybe the battery?)
On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 12:07:46PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 04:46:37AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > On 03/25/2017 05:29 PM, Daniel Bareiro wrote: > > >Hi, Joe. > > > > > >[snip] > > > > > >Checking the purchase invoices, I bought the notebook on September 19, > > >2013, and then changed the battery on November 2, 2015. So less than two > > >years ago I have this battery. > > > > > >The notebook I use it practically every day and I leave it sleeping from > > >one day to the next so I do not have to open every application every > > >time. I'm not sure if that impacts so much on the battery life. > > > > If it was a long term degradation, possibly. With some battery > > technology/technologies(?) there is a "memory" effect. If there is a > > repeated "shallow discharge"/recharge cycle ( sleep overnight > > followed by running during day with charger plugged in) the > > effective battery capacity will decrease. IIRC that applies to only > > one technology but can't remember which. > > That would be the nickel family (NiMH and its predecessors). Laptops > changed long ago (I'd venture somewhere in the 90-ies) to Li-whatever. http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/archive/memory_myth_or_fact -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Thin Client
On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 06:25:51PM +0100, Brian wrote: > Although a Raspberry Pi is not particularly expensive, the 15 GBP > I paid for a brand new thin client was an attraction. It acts as > a print server. Do you want a list of printer manufacturers who do > not support Linux on the ARM architecture? Yes please. Thanks! -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: [TEST RUNS] Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 03:33:08PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > In all this talk of Debian being the universal operating system, and helping > newbies ... I'm not sure those two concepts are related. My understanding of Debian being the universal operating system is that it can run on as many hardware platforms as possible, not that it is universally accessible by all and sundry, although I guess if that also occurs then it's an added bonus. :) -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 09:10:16AM +, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 06:03:12PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >On Tuesday 21 March 2017 17:15:32 Catherine Gramze wrote: > >>Sent from my iPad > > > >Note it is sent from an iPad! Open Source all the way! > > > >Incidentally, why did we need to know that? > > These sorts of signatures are usually used on mobile devices for a number of > reasons: > > - Typing on a mobile tends to be less comfortable, or at least slower, than > typing on a full-size keyboard. This lends to shorter, less detailed > replies. The signature acts as a warning that "I'm not being brusque, I just > don't have the capacity to state my case more loquaciously." > > - Many mobile clients seem to restrict what you can put in a signature. You > generally can't use formatting (as company branding might require), you > often can't even use multiple lines. And if you want to read your signature > from a pipe (so as to include a witty "fortune")? Good luck! IOW, it's an excuse for the following hard to read badly formatted text. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 06:38:52AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > The two files are nearly identical and need them displayed simultaneously > for instant visual comparison. Opening one of the files read only would be > acceptable but not preferable. apt-cache show diffutils (perhaps there is no need for a desktop on a "minimum" install.) :) -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Finding firmware (and SHA sums etc), was Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not
On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 07:13:26PM +, Brian wrote: > Apropos nothing. Columbus knew exactly where he was going and why. He > just didn't get there. The exact route he took didn't exist (or maybe > philosohically it did but hadn't been travelled). But it was planned > using the Google documentation of the time. Perhaps prospective > Debian users could plan their journey into the unknown in the same way. > > Point taken, though. Web page design requires the author to put herself > (or try to) in the position of a typical user. > > A good place to mention the firmware netinst ISO would be the Debian > front page instead of 4 or more layers down. Depends on how much of a > problem it is seen to be. Don't hold your breath waiting for a change; > there are other factors. Yeah, for some reason I too had problems navigating to the netinst image and It was just the plain vanila image without the firmware. I ended up going to the wrong page about 3 times from different attempts, but as Steve has already mentioned, there is a bug open about this. So I agree, Mr Steve Wright is ... correct. Also downloading the installation manual to find out how to navigate to the download page sounds like something from Monty Python. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 12:30:11PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > The Linux mantra has always been "choice," plethoras of choices. So why > at install time, is there no choice for the init system? You get what > the developers decide. Yes, you can install a new one -- I've done it > and it works -- but only after the install. It'd be a lot easier, if > there were a choice to begin with just like whether you want a GUI and > which one. > > Now, I know with LFS, you get to choose everything, etc. But is a > choice of init at install time so outrageous that no one ever > considered it or is it technically unfeasible or something else. > > Just curious. Some interesting links: http://islinuxaboutchoice.com/ https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4hutww/is_linux_about_choice/ http://pusling.com/blog/?p=366 https://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/09/23/linux-is-about-choice/ OK, sure, they're the first 4 hits in a google search but they *are* interesting. :) -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
should I firewall an open port which isn't used? (was ... Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies)
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 08:58:15PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > On 03/13/2017 05:38 AM, Dan Purgert wrote: > >Currently, the system here is > > > > - every PC has a cronjob backing up $HOME to a central "server" (read - > > repurposed PC with decent WD drives), just an rsync script that runs > > daily. > > Don't forget security: > > 1. With a "push" arrangement (e.g. each workstation backs up itself to the > server) -- if a workstation gets compromised, the backups are at risk. > > 2. With a "pull" arrangement (e.g. the server backs up all the > workstations) -- if a workstation gets compromised, the backups should be > safe (and might have clues about the intrusion). Additionally, the backup > server can be completely firewalled (e.g. no open ports). My understanding is that if there are no services listening on a port then it cannot be accessed. e.g. http://serverfault.com/questions/733633/if-no-service-is-listening-on-a-port-can-a-system-still-be-accessed-using-that-p An I missing something? -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: why??why?why??
On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 05:57:19PM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 02:09:22AM +, Shahryar Afifi wrote: [some stuff] > > This is yet another of those threads where the OP never returns after > dropping their troll bomb... the only why oh why here is why oh why do > we collectively never learn not to feed the trolls... Do you think it may possibly be that they are a first time poster and not subscribed and that noone cc's them and they think their post is being ignored? I have seen some genuine calls for help from a poster who seems like a first time poster, and none of the replies are CC's and the OP doesn't reply to any of them. They probably feel like their cry for help is being ignored. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Upgrading Jessie to Stretch
On Sun, Mar 05, 2017 at 09:07:45AM -0500, songbird wrote: > because i keep a second bootable partition a > few versions back i am a bit more brave/stupid > at times and just do the usual routine: > > = > > $ apt-get update > $ apt-get upgrade > > # and then see what is held back before doing the I suggest doing: apt-get upgrade --with-new-pkgs just before: > $ apt-get dist-upgrade See: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/10/msg00279.html :) -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: No sound-inputs but sound recording FMIT
On Sun, Mar 05, 2017 at 07:13:22PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 05 March 2017 17:16:36 John Hasler wrote: > > > Gene Heskett writes: > > > Very simple. With the glaring exception of the modern AC induction > > > motor that in 99% of the stuff we buy, ANY other generator can also > > > be used as a motor... > > > > Induction motors can function as generators. You just need to connect > > them to an appropriate AC source and drive them above synchronous > > speed. > > > Yes, there is that exception, they need an excitation current, true, but > in that case they make excellent brakes as they don't like spinning > above synchronous any better than they like running below it. And with > enough dc current you can come pretty close to stopping them dead in > their tracks. Certainly within one revolution. But the armature is > soft, and its not possible to maintain the magnetic field from its > shorted turns armature long enough to extract any output power from it > for more than a few milliseconds. In other words Back EMF? I know a chap who found about that the hard way when he tried to get something from nothing by charging a battery from a generator which he turned by having a fan connected to it. :) He didn't get electrocuted or anything, the fan abruptly stops turning. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Security hole in LXDE?
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 09:00:15PM +1100, Davor Balder wrote: > Hi Hans, > > Question 1 which one: stable, testing or unstable? IMHO if it's not stated then stable is to be assumed. Users who run testing/sid are generally expected to have some degree of troubleshooting knowledge (the clue is in the name.) Unfortunately, it appears that bad advice is given to run testing or sid just because a user wants a later version of a piece of software. So sure, if a user is running testing/sid then you'd expect that it would be stated early on in the post and that the user has a reasonable amount of troubleshooting knowledge, and has therefore experienced a 'special' case that someone else may have a clue about. So in a nutshell, only experienced users should be running testing/sid and therefore any posts where the dist isn't mentioned should be assumed that the user is running stable. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Memory Upgrade for Ancient Enspiron 2600
On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 04:38:19PM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 04:08:09 PM Doug wrote: > > Whether or not this is all economically worth while, or you should throw > > the machine out and buy a new one is up to you. > > I typically build replacement computers (for myself, son, and a few others) > for $200 to $300 (or less) (without Windows). I do this by watching for > items > on sale at places like Newegg and Tigerdirect. > > A typical build has a 64 bit AMD processor, 8GB of memory, and at least 200 > GB > of disk. > > A typical budget: > >* Motherboard and CPU $70 to $100 >* case and power supply $30 to $60 (I typically get a new power supply for > ~$20), if I can, I'll re-use a case (if it is a size that I like (and holds > the MB) >* 8 MB RAM $40 to $50 >* 1 GB HDD ~$50 You're being ripped off for that size HDD! -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Problem google-chrome Flash Player with http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news
On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 03:05:13PM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > On 01/14/2017 09:30 AM, solitone wrote: > >On Saturday, January 14, 2017 9:15:11 AM CET Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > >>and on mine not! Hey, come on! You've installed a 3rd party package and you're asking on this list why it doesn't work? That's a rhetorical question BTW. > >Are you on stretch as well? > > Sid. ... and you're running Sid? At the least you should have marked this post [OT] in the subject. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: productivity tips
On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 03:02:32PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Just show me the editor which takes you to a function's source code > (yes, even to the C source itself!) within a few keystrokes. U, oh, here we go: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Browsing_programs_with_tags enjoy. :) -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Do have programs have poor documentation? (was ... Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal")
On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 12:52:20PM +0100, Xen wrote: > Lisi Reisz schreef op 31-12-2016 10:30: > > >Which make me bad at writing? > > > >Lisi > > Refusing to write good documentation on purpose. Oh, come on! What you call good documentation means writing for a user who has no clue about what the program does. Imagine a recipe written for a user who has no clue about cooking ... I mean where do you start? You HAVE to assume the reader has a certain level of expertise. Some man pages do have an EXAMPLE section which can be very helpful. It's a waste of time discussing what a man page should be; it's already perceived as a reference document. I too was in the same dilema when I first started using Linux, even 'spoon feeding' tutorials introduced terms which were new to me. The onus was on *me* to 'understand' the material. There is plenty of info out on the Internet, and I find appropriate blogs give a lot of good introductory material/links to help me with that. I've seen the quote: "I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you' OK, it is a bit blunt. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Do have programs have poor documentation? (was ... Re: Why? -- "A Modest Proposal")
[sorry for the late response.] On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 11:05:48AM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > It is not easy to describe a program with many use cases and even > more particular settings and actions. > > What lacks to my experience as confused reader and as best effort writer > is the user's view on the programs. man pages should document the details > and often do sufficiently. > But the user looks for solutions, not opportunities. An interesting thing to ponder is whether a tractor manual should explain how to prepare a field to plant carrots. Also, think of man pages as a reference (what does that switch do again?) not as a "first introduction" or tutorial. e.g. I'd be annoyed if a chess database program's documentation consisted of how to play the game, rules of the game, etc. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Unwanted on-screen keyboard - which package.
On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 05:06:13PM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: > I enabled the on-screen keyboard applet in Cinnamon so as to write some > text with French accents. But then it kept on coming up when I didn't > want it, every time I went into any text field. I removed the applet > from my toolbar - no difference. I found the cinnamon on-screen- > keyboard and deleted its entire directory - no difference. I logged off > and even rebooted - no difference. I switched to Gnome (from Cinnamon) > - no difference, and now I sometimes got a second small keyboard coming > up, which seemed to be something to do with antlr. I deleted its > package. It still came up! > > Nothing I do could get rid of this confounded nuisance until I rebooted > again, after purging the antlr packages. > > But what package should have a bug filed? Install it again. Does the problem reocurr? -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: [HITB-Announce] HITB2016AMS Videos & GSEC Singapore Voting
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 05:42:08AM +0800, Hafez Kamal wrote: > Videos from the 7th annual HITB Security Conference are being released > this week! Please don't spam debian-user with useless content! This is a support mailing list for the Debian operating system. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: ThinkPad fan
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 08:22:02AM -0400, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > I literally hate when this happens. A thought occurred as fast as that > last email was sent. Low income types like myself don't always have > enough pennies to rub together to even buy a cheap fan of any kind on > demand. Doesn't mean we've completely run out of alternatives. The > dogs busted my first laptop fan's USB connection couple years ago, but > I still used the stand part of it successfully as a coolant aid for > another year or so (until they broke that, too). Then logically it sounds like you should sell the dogs, get cash and will save on further expenditure relating to them *plus* your household appliances will be under less risk! :) (I guess some logical solutions aren't under consideration.) -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 06:36:53PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Le sextidi 26 prairial, an CCXXIV, Morten Bo Johansen a écrit : > > Since you are using Mutt, all you need to do to be well behaved > > (i.e. not send personal CCs) is to hit 'L' when you reply > > As I already explained twice, a solution that requires a different action Even three times doesn't mean you're right. You know, ... when in Rome ... > when it is a mailing-list and when it is not is not an acceptable solution. > The solution I advocate does not have this issue. > > Let me try to re-state it one more time another way: > > A is annoyed by unwanted CCs and wants to make it stop. You're ignoring the CoC, which is worse. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Mailing-list configuration
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 02:57:29PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > But we have to also remember that mutt is very very loong in the > tooth Lisi. I've looked at it but never used it, so I've no knowledge if > its have any serious TLC in the last decade. "Mutt 1.6.1 was released on May 1, 2016." http://www.mutt.org -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Mailing-list configuration
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 05:12:57PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Le sextidi 26 prairial, an CCXXIV, Tanstaafl a écrit : > > This is why Reply-To-List is the way to reply when engaged in a mailing > > list. > > > > If your client doesn't have this, then maybe it is time to consider > > changing. > > I am not sure what you are aiming at. If "Reply-To-List" is supposed to be a > message header, as the typography, then you can observe that it is not > present in most of the mails on this mailing-list. It's as simple as pressing 'L' in mutt. I agree that if you are unsure if the poster is a new poster and *may* not be subscribed, then sure CC them, but to continue to CC someone when they have explicitly asked not to be is just plain rude. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Big dummy at work again
On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 02:05:48AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > I do use apt-get, when I can easily copy/paste what I want it to do, but > it hates my spelling otherwise. Thats my fault of course, but there it > is. That's where tab completion comes in very handy. :) -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Big dummy at work again
On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 10:04:27PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 11 Jun 2016 at 20:49:27 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 11 June 2016 17:35:11 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > No, Gene. All created because you didn't trust the package manager. > > > Not that IMHO Synaptic is that trustworthy. ;-) I have just looked in > > > my /usr/bin. I have firefox-esr and firefox-real. So I have > > > experimented. Firefox-esr is the one aptitude installed, and is > > > Firefox 45.2.0 and Firefox is 47.0, and is the one I installed. I > > > have both in my menu, clearly labelled Firefox-esr and Firefox. I let > > > aptitude do its thing. It has left life simple. > > > > > Maybe, but that ncurses face on aptitube is a total turn-off, and will be > > until aptitude figures out how to make ncurses redraw the whole screen > > instead of leave a kilobyte of text covering 20% of the screen real > > estate. And it been that disaster since I first saw it 18 years ago. > > As usual, your rant is in need of some explanation as to exactly > what your problem is. It seems obvious to me, he's talking about screen corruption. Gene, Is this when you close it down? I'd give apt-get a try, I prefer it to aptitude and esp. prefer it to synaptic. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Non-firefox browser?
On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 01:00:54PM +1000, terryc wrote: > Are there any browsers in Debian Jessie that are not dependent on > Firefox? Huh? What do you mean by this? > It seems everything has been replaced or is just a cover/skin/re-paint > of firefox. Huh? What do you mean by this? -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Changing tty shells
On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 11:22:32PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: > On 06/09/2016 10:00 AM, Levi Darrell wrote: > >Hi Debian Users List, > > > >My computer is set to boot into a tty shell. I manually enter X Server by > >issuing the startx command. Previously, I had been able to switch tty > >shells with the keystroke combination Alt + F[1-6]. After attempting to > >reconfigure they keyboard and locales to solve an unrelated problem, > >suddenly this no longer works. > > > >I can still change shells from within X Server by using the combination > >Ctrl + Alt + F[1-6], but I don't want to have to log into X Server in > >order to be able to use all of my tty shells. What could have gone wrong, > >and where do I look to fix the problem? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Levi > > On my box, Alt + F[1-6] does not work in the console either, but Ctrl + Alt > + F[1-6] works fine from the console, just as it does from X. JFTR, Alt + F[1-6] works fine for me. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Version and Release
On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 04:45:50PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > Buster - Debian 10 - will be the release after Stretch ooops, should read whole thread before replying to a message. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Version and Release
On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 11:19:19AM +, Mark Fletcher wrote: > There aren't 3 versions of each release, there's only one. Stable, testing > and unstable are nicknames / status codes applied to a given release at any > stage of its lifecycle. Right now Jessie is stable, Stretch is testing. The > unstable release is always called Sid, that never changes. > > When stretch is considered stable enough, it will get a release number > (9.0), and be referred to as stable. At this point Jessie will be > "oldstable" and wheezy will pass into legend. Whatever Sid looks like at > that time, will get a new Toy Story character name assigned, and become the AIUI, the name is already chosen and will be 'Buster'. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: console fonts and systemd (was ... Re: What can AppArmor do?)
On Sun, Jun 05, 2016 at 09:16:23AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > And here's my observation. When you type real quotation marks (ie ‘’“”), > the correct glyphs appear on the screen. After changing font, those > glyphs turn into different glyphs, but freshly typed quotation marks > appear with the correct glyphs. > > I have no idea why this happens, but it does mean that your statement > above needs qualification. The glyphs that change to a sort of D shape > with a squiggle on top, are these glyphs that were already on the > screen before you changed choice, or are they fresh glyphs written afterwards? They were fresh glyphs written afterwards. The glyps I got were dependant on the setting I chose in the second screen (after choosing UTF from the first.) while doing 'dpkg-reconfigure console-setup'. I've now got it set to 'Guess optimal character set' which does do the quotes. It was when choosing the other options i noticed the D shape with a squiggle on top. There is also setupcon (man setupcon) which may be of some interest. Once I got the dlyphs showing correctly I didn't bother with the technicalities any further --- although what the option 'Guess optimal character set' is actually doing behind the scenes *may* be an option for further perusal. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
console fonts and systemd (was ... Re: What can AppArmor do?)
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 03:20:32PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 24 May 2016 at 01:13:34 (+1200), cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 11:11:27AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > > > But I am only using us-ascii, iso-8859-1, > > > utf-8 > > > (locale) and utf-8, with a locale of en_GB.UTF-8, so not very > > > abstruse in view of the fact that I have correspondents in, and therefore > > > correspondence from, Japan, Greece and Israel in addition to the > > > Anglo-Saxon > > > countries. > > > > I'm running utf8 also, but if your font can't display the chars/glyphs then > > it won't help. > > If I’m not mistaken, it’s *your* font that’s lacking the necessary > glyphs, like ’. What is it, BTW? I didn't think someone would read it that way. I was meaning "your" in a general way, not explicitly meaning Lisi's font. What is the systemd command to show the font being used on the console? (hint ... /etc/vconsole.conf doesn't exist) After a bit of googling, It seems to be done via the console-setup package which I don't have installed! Weird. So I installed the console-setup package and chose (eventually): UTF Guess optimal character set TerminusBold 8x16 and the wee squares disappeared (at least in this mail, I've deleted the others in this thread.) So, actually the answer to your question is that I have no idea what font I was running on this system to give the "wee squares" If I choose Terminus instead of TerminusBold, then the ’ changes to a sort of D shape with a squiggle on top! I'm guessing the char was a right side single curly quote, that you posted David? Although, IIRC, the typographical single quotes and double quotes are a rather peculiar case anyway. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: wireless without network-manager... is it still possible?
On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 08:35:22PM +0100, Brian wrote: > "Arseholes" is the correct terminology. You've not posted enough > nonsense in this thread yet for it to be applied to you. But you could > try really hard. ;) In English it's "Arseholes"; in American it's "Assholes". -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: What can AppArmor do?
On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 11:11:27AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > But I am only using us-ascii, iso-8859-1, > utf-8 > (locale) and utf-8, with a locale of en_GB.UTF-8, so not very > abstruse in view of the fact that I have correspondents in, and therefore > correspondence from, Japan, Greece and Israel in addition to the Anglo-Saxon > countries. I'm running utf8 also, but if your font can't display the chars/glyphs then it won't help. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: What can AppArmor do?
On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 10:17:22PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 21 May 2016 16:56:31 cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 04:08:05PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Friday 20 May 2016 15:57:27 Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > That statement reminds me of one of George Orwell's characters > > > > saying "It means whatever I want it to mean." > > > > > > No, Lewis Carol, Humpty Dumpty in Alice Through The Looking Glass. > > > > > > “When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it > > > means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.” “The question > > > is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different > > > things.” “The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be > > > master—that’s all.” > > > > What key are you pressing to get the wee squares? > > What wee squares?? It must be a font problem my end. I'm using mutt in a tty. I guess you copy'n'pasted the text from a web page. For some reason the (I guess they're quotation marks) display as a small square. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Pulseaudio not starting, after no obvious changes
On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 05:21:21PM +, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: > Hi, > I just returned home after a short vacation to my running, completely > up-to-date jessie system, and discovered that Pulse had stopped running, and > I dont know how to get it going again. > Various of the startup commands give an error :"E: [pulseaudio] main.c: > Failed to initialize daemon." I've searched this up and down, and tried to > remove the .config/pulse directory (there's no ~/.pulse), which had no effect. > Running pavucontrol shows a long error popup: You could try purging it and see if you can do without it. If you need it for some reason, then reinstall it. My sound is running OK and I don't have pulseaudio installed. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Customizing/repository question
On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 12:42:09PM -0400, Ralph Sanchez wrote: > Good morning. I was just wandering, is it safe to use packages from another > Debian based district repositories by adding them to my sources file, > specifically Kali Linux? No. Therein lies madness! -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Got that network problem solved, now a new one
[Please don't top post] On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:09:02PM +, John L. Ries wrote: > I guess my first question would be why the script below has anything to do > with /opt. I don't see a change of directory to anything under that > directory and I would assume this is running in some directory you own. > > > System directory permissions are sometimes changed during software updates; > annoying, but true. I sometimes have to change permissions on /usr/local/src > for that reason. That would seem like a serious bug, the package manager doesn't touch the local tree. I'm guessing it was a 3rd party application which you compiled/installed which of course the package manager has no control over. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: What can AppArmor do?
On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 10:45:03AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 5/20/2016 10:08 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >On Friday 20 May 2016 15:57:27 Richard Owlett wrote: > >>That statement reminds me of one of George Orwell's characters > >>saying "It means whatever I want it to mean." > > > >No, Lewis Carol, Humpty Dumpty in Alice Through The Looking Glass. > > > >“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means > >just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.” “The question is,” said > >Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.” “The > >question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that’s all.” > > > >Lisi > > > > *ROFL* Thank you. > "Alice Through The Looking Glass" is a more suitable metaphor for 'nix > documentation ;/ Remember: 1) Unix is user friendly, it's just picky on who its friends are. and 2) Would you expect a tractor manual to give instructions on how to grow carrots? -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: What can AppArmor do?
On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 04:08:05PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 20 May 2016 15:57:27 Richard Owlett wrote: > > That statement reminds me of one of George Orwell's characters > > saying "It means whatever I want it to mean." > > No, Lewis Carol, Humpty Dumpty in Alice Through The Looking Glass. > > “When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means > just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.” “The question is,” said > Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.” “The > question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that’s all.” What key are you pressing to get the wee squares? -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: OSS Versus ALSA Modules
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 07:55:54AM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: > I had a thread going on this list with the subject of > "Plug and Pray; my Life with Linux Sound." Thanks to several good > answers, I am on the right track to fixing a problem but there > is, of course, one more question. The subject line gave me the impression is was a rant/'blog post' style thread rather than a problem, or something you were seeking help on. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Anytime I touch a print function, get error but it works
On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 04:23:16PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Fixed it right up, thank you very much, Curt. Since it had to create > that path in /etc from scratch, is there a way to ask dpkg what provides > this file so that I can make the mental connection to something I have > installed recently? Yes, I use: dpkg -S /path/to/file/filename -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Poweroff is not working on debian8.3
On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 03:05:01AM +, GU, Gladys wrote: > Hi, Debian, We have a system with debian8.3, the poweroff is not working and > everytime it will be perform a restart instead. However when we use > debian8.4, it works normally. Below is the log, do you have any advice? Yes, use the latest version. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Posting picture files
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 07:52:46PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Wed 11 May 2016 at 06:36:43 +1200, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > > On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 11:57:34AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Sunday 01 May 2016 11:07:39 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > > > > > > > "Do not submit an attachment larger than 10 KiB. Consider using > > > > paste.debian.net and including a link in your post." > > > > > > > > From https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists#Posting_Rules.2C_Guide > > > >lines.2C_and_Tips > > > > > > Thanks Sven. But it does seem rather archaic today, 100k would be a lot > > > more useful as attaching a well smunched screenshot is a lot less > > > > Well, it is a wiki. :) > > Which anyone, including you, can contribute to. :) Yeah, that's what I pointed out. I don't intend to go round editing posts on other peoples behalf. :) -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: all at a sudden Firefox
On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 08:39:58PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 01 May 2016 19:43:37 Curt wrote: > > As far as here goes, in mixed company, the masculine form takes > > precedence (which may or may not have anything to do with anything). > > Depending. "Guys" can indeed sometimes be used as the common gender, and it > is "man"kind. But I object to "Sirs"!!! Me too! I definitely haven't been knighted. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Posting picture files
On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 11:57:34AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 01 May 2016 11:07:39 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > > > "Do not submit an attachment larger than 10 KiB. Consider using > > paste.debian.net and including a link in your post." > > > > From https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists#Posting_Rules.2C_Guide > >lines.2C_and_Tips > > Thanks Sven. But it does seem rather archaic today, 100k would be a lot > more useful as attaching a well smunched screenshot is a lot less Well, it is a wiki. :) That certaily seems like a random joe blogs post, considering pastebin is not good for a user suport mailing list that archives its posts. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Posting picture files
On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 12:41:10PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > > > You know, I thought I had tried switching themes with out success. I just > tried it again and the Oxygen theme cleared up the problem. So this is the solution to a problem in another thread? :/ -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: pastebinning (was: Posts don't show on list)
> Gary Roach composed on 2016-04-30 12:08 (UTC-0700): > > >Someone said that I need to use a pastebin for images. I've never used > >one before so another Fxx Learning Experience. No, it's not necessary, in fact its preferable to not use pastebin. There's been other threads where this has been fleshed out. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Firewall - basic config?
On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 01:04:36PM -0400, Harris Paltrowitz wrote: > Hi List, > > I have a question regarding how I've configured my iptables to act as a very > basic "firewall", i.e., one that simply prevents any and all incoming > connections. Now, from my readings over the past several days I think I've > learned that at least some of my outgoing requests will have responses that > should be allowed to come back in -- but aside from that, I essentially want > my firewall to act in a very "default" method, i.e., the way a complete > neophyte would expect his or her firewall to work within Windows or Mac. Have a look at shorewall, it saves you from having to worry about all that nonsense. [snipped all that nonsense.] -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Is running spamassin on a home server a waste? (was ... Re: TCP/IP over Bluetooth)
On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 12:57:08PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > Thanks for making me think of that and the fact that over the last 10 > > years, the only ham its seen are its mistakes. So this question might > > have had the seeds of something to help. :) > > My scripts copy all new non-spam to a ham directory which is fed to > sa-learn every night and then the contents of both the ham and the > spam directories are deleted. IIRC, it seems pointless feeding your mail through a spam filter if you're downloading it from your ISP/email provider. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Posts don't show on list
On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 08:35:31PM +0100, Joe wrote: > Upload to a website, either your own or a public one. I don't use > a public one, so I have no recommendation, but no doubt others will. > > It is a courtesy in any case, in any list or group, as some > subscribers may have limited Internet capability, and should have the > choice as to whether to download comparatively large chunks of data. The purpose of this list is to provide help to other Debian users, more often than not this involves sending log files, screen shots, or whatever else may be needed to help solve the problem. Also the mails are archived to help future googlers solve their own problems, this helps to avoid traffic to the list. If the screenshots or logs are sent to a web site with a time limit then the archiving of the message is a waste of time (and I suggest a cause for extreme frustration). This is a high volume list, so there is already a lot of data downloaded. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Posts don't show on list
[Please don't top post] On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 12:24:26PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > OK. All of a sudden my original posts are showing up but if I add an > attachment the post seems to drop into a black hole. No post, no rejection > notice. I have looked at the sites rules and have not found any information > that would exclude attachments. There may be a size limit. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Posts don't show on list
On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 05:11:07AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 22 April 2016 04:43:56 Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > That's a frequently reported "feature" of gmail. > > Personally I suspect "free" service isn't worth what you pay for it. > > I'm very happy using paid ($) mail and news servers :} > > Paid? Mail? Its part of YOUR ISP's responsibility to provide a mail > server. I was informed by my ISP that the email service is an added extra. :( -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Posts don't show on list
On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 02:23:46PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 08:12:04AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > [...] > > > In this case, what appears to happen is that Gmail assumes that > > Message-ID is unique, and consequently that it only needs to keep one > > copy of a message with any given Message-ID. Since the person sending a > > mail already has one message with that Message-ID (in their Sent > > folder), Gmail sees the incoming mail as a duplicate, and discards it. > > Sounds kinda plausible. Any Googler listening who'd care to shed light? > C'mon, folks... I google but cannot help. :) -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Problems with vdpau
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 02:07:52PM +0530, Himanshu Shekhar wrote: > I have no NVIDIA hardware, still there are packages that install packages > containing vdpau in their name. > Any such installation causes trouble as the CLI tty(s) (a.k.a. virtual > consoles) are not available to use as long as any library related to vdpau > are installed. What trouble? Please explain what happens, and what you expect to happen. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Failed installs
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 11:12:12AM -0600, pcr1 wrote: > I have for some time been, and after many attempts remain, unable to install > Debian, which I previously have used for many years. The failures occur > during "select and install", about a third of the way through, but not > always at the same place. You're going to have to supply more information than that if you expect any help. Please read: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: Call for testing: upcoming samba security update
[please don't top post] On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 06:25:01PM +0100, Birgit Berger (UV Wien) wrote: > is it better to wait to update samba 4.1.17 to 4.2.10 on jessie? There aren't any new packages in the stable release, or has this changed for some reason? -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: [ A little off topic] Best e-mail client for Android
On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 01:12:45PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 08:02:13AM -0400, German wrote: > >I wonder what Debian users use on their phone/tablet. > > I use K-@ Mail [1] which, as far as I understand, is a Material redesign of > Kaiten Mail which, in turn, is a fork of K-9 Mail. > > I've not gone back to see how K-9 Mail is faring these days, but any of > these three should provide good, solid mail clients. I wonder why there is a disclaimer like "please excuse this mail - sent from phone or tablet" at the end of each mail. -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: [ A little off topic] Best e-mail client for Android
On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 08:02:13AM -0400, German wrote: > I wonder what Debian users use on their phone/tablet. What Debian version are you using on your tablet? -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
Re: debian installer 4k sectors
On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 08:36:50AM +0200, Pavel Kosina wrote: > Hi, > > several times I tried install Debian stable/testing. I have MB Asrock UEFI > D1800B-ITX and HDD WD20EFRX. Debian installer /part where partitioning and > formatting happens/ never formats to correct sectors 4k. It always formats > to 512b: > -- > linuxbox:~# fdisk -l > Disk /dev/sda: 1.8 TiB, 2000398934016 bytes, 3907029168 sectors > Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes > Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes > I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes > Disklabel type: dos > Disk identifier: 0xa10b2c0d > > Device Boot StartEndSectors Size Id Type > /dev/sda1 * 2048 3903531007 3903528960 1.8T 83 Linux > /dev/sda2 3903533054 39070289913495938 1.7G 5 Extended > /dev/sda5 3903533056 39070289913495936 1.7G 82 Linux swap / > Solaris > > Partition 2 does not start on physical sector boundary. > - > > > why is that? Is that bug or I miss something? > Due to this there is also error: "Partition 2 does not start on physical > sector boundary." Sorry I don't have the answer, but: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Format shows the HDD WD20EFRX to be logical 512 and physical 4096 and http://excess.org/article/2010/11/wd-hdd-lying-about-4k-sectors/ It seems the first partition is aligned correctly. Hopefully the answer isn't "you have to calculate the sector alignment yourself and physically enter those values." -- The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. -- Malcolm X
