Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread John Hasler
Ron Johnson writes: We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the local store that doesn't taste like crumbly cardboard. I wrote: See? You're picky. Ron Johnson writes: Taste pickiness != snob pickiness. (Although snobs like to pretend it is.) Didn't say it was. However, if the

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread John Hasler
Greg Folkert writes: We buy Bread at Aldi. $0.45 a loaf or $0.15 a loaf when trying to sell off before tomorrow's shipment. Seem pretty much everything is that way at Aldi. My wife shops at Aldi's. It's an interesting company. Most retailers are terrified of WalMart but Aldi's deliberately

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 15:14, John Hasler wrote: Ron Johnson writes: We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the local store that doesn't taste like crumbly cardboard. I wrote: See? You're picky. Ron Johnson writes: Taste pickiness != snob

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 22:19 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: Greg Folkert wrote: On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 14:46 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/30/07 13:59, John Hasler wrote: Ron Johnson writes: We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the local store that doesn't taste like crumbly cardboard.

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
I mean, since the price difference is so HUGE and the quality is mostly as good or even better, why Aldi is not deluged by people from open to close, I'll never know. For the same reason people want SUVs. For the same reason women like gold and diamond. For the same reason people want brand

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 02:40:22PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: Every time I see a Cajun Cuisine restaurant, I laugh at how stupid people are. Cajun food is (ok, *was*) about as poor-folks as you can get. The same can be said of barbacoa (originally a Mexican peasant food), paella (originally

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 05:52:14PM -0300, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: ET: Why do people kill each other and go to wars over this diamond substance? What is it for? Me: Well, aside from its industrial applications, people want it for the precise reason that it is hard to get. If its

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread John K Masters
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:41:31 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 15:14, John Hasler wrote: Ron Johnson writes: We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the local store that doesn't taste like crumbly cardboard. I

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 15:52, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: I mean, since the price difference is so HUGE and the quality is mostly as good or even better, why Aldi is not deluged by people from open to close, I'll never know. For the same reason

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Nigel Henry
On Friday 30 March 2007 22:43, Greg Folkert wrote: On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 22:19 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: Greg Folkert wrote: On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 14:46 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/30/07 13:59, John Hasler wrote: Ron Johnson writes: We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at the

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
I'll go out on a short limb and say that more than 95% of the stuff Aldi carries that has direct brand-name equivalents, is better tasting... This reminds me of restaurants. I like the small, family food ones 10 times better than the expensive ones. I prefer tasty food over fancy food that

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread CaT
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 06:49:35PM -0300, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: quality), and I tried again. Then with a better recharger. I eventually gave up and put the batteries away. One year later, I looked at the batteries and realized why they did not work. They were Sony batteries. Of

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread CaT
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 01:13:44AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 02:38:04PM +1000, CaT wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 12:19:39AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: The sensible way to handle hardware support independent of any installed software would be to ship each pc with a

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread CaT
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 01:11:06AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: tech support folks stop saying 'but you need to use windows for us to diagnose the problem before we can authorizes this' or similar. FWIW, the diagnostics, etc CD that Dell ships with servers is Linux based. I found

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Paul Walsh wrote: Passed to me by a colleague: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6506027.stm *grin* That is awesome news! Thanks for sharing it. Now I just hope that the Dell systems come pre-installed with Debian! raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
All* rechargable AA batteries are 1.2v whilst normal AA batteries are 1.5v. How embarrassing. I guess the battery was just broken then. There are a lot of other arguments against Sony still. -- Software is like sex: it is better when it is free.

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread John Hasler
CaT writes: FWIW, the diagnostics, etc CD that Dell ships with servers is Linux based. ... I've just got the actual CDs that I've poked around. Does it include source? If not did you receive a written offer to provide it? -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Andrei Popescu
Jim Hyslop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious why you say that. I'm fairly new to Linux, but I understand it is more robust and secure than MS Windows. Still, it's definitely ;) not totally secure - nothing made by humans could be. So, do you mean unfortunately :( that there's no need

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread cga2000
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 04:01:41AM EST, Max Hyre wrote: Dear Debianistas: John Hasler wrote: The manufacturer may be paying Microsoft a fixed fee for every machine he ships rather than for every copy of Microsoft Windows he ships. This makes sense when nearly every machine has

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread cga2000
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 04:00:48PM EST, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 02:40:22PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: Every time I see a Cajun Cuisine restaurant, I laugh at how stupid people are. Cajun food is (ok, *was*) about as poor-folks as you can get. Tells you how low

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Andrei Popescu
Jim Hyslop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Hasler wrote: Linux will not be commonplace on [desk|lap]tops until major hardware vendors ship it (not that I care all that much). attacks against Linux. Linux may be a much more robust and secure

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Andrei Popescu
Zbigniew Wiech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Dell's price) Doesn't basic economics dictate that given competition, the equilibrium price is determined by both supply and demand? Even if I'm willing to pay a great deal, if the cost to produce the item is low, competition should drive down the

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Andrei Popescu
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is awesome news! Thanks for sharing it. Now I just hope that the Dell systems come pre-installed with Debian! As much as I like Debian, but wouldn't Ubuntu make a better option? Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread John C
``Microsoft Tax''. without representation .. So when's our Boston Tea Party? It's in progress courtesy of Richard Stallman. Free Software Foundation (FSF) *Boston Mass* :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread cga2000
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 09:51:16AM EST, Celejar wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 08:57:02 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/30/07 08:23, Celejar wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:45:13 -0500 John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Every time I see a Cajun Cuisine restaurant, I laugh at how stupid people are. Cajun food is (ok, *was*) about as poor-folks as you can get. Economics notwithstanding, the food is still double-danged delicious! That's what counts to me. I like 'soul'

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 01:14:44PM -0500, Seth Goodman wrote: Paul Walsh wrote on Friday, March 30, 2007 2:23 AM -0600: Seth Goodman wrote: Most people could not complete a Linux install without a phone call to tech support. I suspect that's one part of the reason there are so few

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 02:02:54PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Jim Hyslop writes: It seems to me the way to go, if you're willing to risk not having a warranty, is to demand the refund from the manufacturers. If enough people demand it, then Dell, HP et al will start getting tired of paying

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread cga2000
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 08:32:38PM EST, John C wrote: ``Microsoft Tax''. without representation .. So when's our Boston Tea Party? It's in progress courtesy of Richard Stallman. Free Software Foundation (FSF) *Boston Mass* :-) You're good .. :-) Never made the

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Jim Hyslop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrei Popescu wrote: Jim Hyslop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: attacks against Linux. Linux may be a much more robust and secure system than Windows, but there are probably still security holes lurking that nobody (at least, no honest person) has yet

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-30 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:43:30PM -0400, Jim Hyslop wrote: If I had immediately followed with some outrageous claim that Windows is better and has fewer security holes because insert some stupid reason, *THEN* you could accuse me of spreading FUD. Windows *is* better, since Microsoft

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Folkert wrote: On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 22:19 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: Greg Folkert wrote: On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 14:46 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/30/07 13:59, John Hasler wrote: Ron Johnson writes: We buy the cheapest *whole* wheat bread at

Re: Bread (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-03-30 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nigel Henry wrote: On Friday 30 March 2007 22:43, Greg Folkert wrote: On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 22:19 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: Greg Folkert wrote: On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 14:46 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/30/07 13:59, John Hasler wrote: Ron Johnson

Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Paul Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Passed to me by a colleague: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6506027.stm *grin* - -- Paul Walsh Systems Manager (UNIX), Information Communication Technology, UCE Birmingham, BIRMINGHAM B42 2SU, UK -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version:

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/29/07 08:55, Paul Walsh wrote: Passed to me by a colleague: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6506027.stm *grin* There will be a limited number of models and they'll be more expensive (if for no other reason than companies like

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 09:20:23 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/29/07 08:55, Paul Walsh wrote: Passed to me by a colleague: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6506027.stm *grin* There will be a limited number of

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 14:55 +0100, Paul Walsh wrote: Passed to me by a colleague: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6506027.stm *grin* I'm not cheering just yet, but I am being cautiously optimistic. From reading this, it seems like Dell maybe, maybe, have got the message right;

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Alan Ianson
On Thu March 29 2007 06:55, Paul Walsh wrote: Passed to me by a colleague: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6506027.stm *grin* My laptop has had linux on it for a couple of years already. If Dell can deliver a laptop/desktop with compatible hardware this will be a good thing. I've

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/29/07 09:34, Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 14:55 +0100, Paul Walsh wrote: Passed to me by a colleague: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6506027.stm *grin* I'm not cheering just yet, but I am being cautiously

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/29/07 09:26, Celejar wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 09:20:23 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/29/07 08:55, Paul Walsh wrote: Passed to me by a colleague:

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 09:42:21 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/29/07 09:26, Celejar wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 09:20:23 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Cassiano Leal
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/29/07 09:34, Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 14:55 +0100, Paul Walsh wrote: Passed to me by a colleague: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6506027.stm *grin* I'm not cheering just yet, but I am being

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Max Hyre
Ron Johnson wrote: There will be a limited number of models and they'll be more expensive (if for no other reason than companies like Symantec can't sell ad space on a Linux desktop). Why the devil shouldn't they be able to sell ad space to Symantec? (I presume that's what you mean.)

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/29/07 06:15, Max Hyre wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: There will be a limited number of models and they'll be more expensive (if for no other reason than companies like Symantec can't sell ad space on a Linux desktop). Why the devil

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
Ron Johnson wrote: IOW, sure they could try to sell add space on the Linux desktop, but who would buy it? Oracle? Veritas? Um, Veritas IS Symantec. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/29/07 11:31, Roger B.A. Klorese wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: IOW, sure they could try to sell add space on the Linux desktop, but who would buy it? Oracle? Veritas? Um, Veritas IS Symantec. OK, I didn't know that one purchased the

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Michael Marsh
On 3/29/07, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IOW, sure they could try to sell add space on the Linux desktop, but who would buy it? Oracle? Veritas? Google? Expedia? ScottTrade? None of those is OS-specific, and all would benefit from quick links on the desktop. If the

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/29/07 11:37, Michael Marsh wrote: On 3/29/07, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IOW, sure they could try to sell add space on the Linux desktop, but who would buy it? Oracle? Veritas? Google? Why? Expedia? ScottTrade?

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:27:36 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/29/07 06:15, Max Hyre wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: There will be a limited number of models and they'll be more expensive (if for no other reason than companies like

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 11:59:35AM -0300, Cassiano Leal wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/29/07 09:34, Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 14:55 +0100, Paul Walsh wrote: Passed to me by a colleague:

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Andrei Popescu
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/29/07 06:15, Max Hyre wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: There will be a limited number of models and they'll be more expensive (if for no other reason than companies like Symantec can't sell ad space on

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Michael Marsh
On 3/29/07, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03/29/07 11:37, Michael Marsh wrote: On 3/29/07, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IOW, sure they could try to sell add space on the Linux desktop, but who would buy it? Oracle? Veritas? Google? Why? Granted, their market

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 14:42 -0400, Michael Marsh wrote: On 3/29/07, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03/29/07 11:37, Michael Marsh wrote: Google? Why? Granted, their market penetration is pretty significant already, but I meant it more to be illustrative. On the other hand, a

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 14:42 -0400, Michael Marsh wrote: On 3/29/07, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03/29/07 11:37, Michael Marsh wrote: Google? Why? Granted, their market penetration is pretty significant already,

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 21:52 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: If I'm not mistaken, Google have some similar deal with the Mozilla Corporation, that's why Firefox ships with the little search box set to Google. Ah, you mean the same search box that is on iceweasel and on konqueror. Do you think

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 11:59:35AM -0300, Cassiano Leal wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/29/07 09:34, Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 14:55 +0100, Paul Walsh wrote: Passed to me by a colleague:

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread José Santos
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 11:59:35AM -0300, Cassiano Leal wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/29/07 09:34, Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Thu, 2007-03-29 at

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Wackojacko
Michael Marsh wrote: On 3/29/07, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03/29/07 11:37, Michael Marsh wrote: On 3/29/07, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IOW, sure they could try to sell add space on the Linux desktop, but who would buy it? Oracle? Veritas? Google? Why? Granted,

RE: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Seth Goodman
Celejar wrote on Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:27 AM -0600: That's what I never get about this whole business; I want them to do linux to *lower* the cost by the cost of the windows license. I suppose they're targeting people who want the convenience, not the cost saving. I think that's exactly

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Michael Pobega
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:00:27PM +0100, José Santos wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: I tend to be cautious when reading such announcements from a major manufacturer like Dell. Lets hope for the best. I agree, I'm pretty skeptical when it comes to big businesses and GNU/Linux. As far as I

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread John Hasler
Sven Arvidsson writes: The Mozilla Corporation is for-profit... And is wholly-owned by the not-for-profit (and charitable) Mozilla Foundation. http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/?p=182 -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 04:20:52PM -0500, Seth Goodman wrote: Celejar wrote on Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:27 AM -0600: That's what I never get about this whole business; I want them to do linux to *lower* the cost by the cost of the windows

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread John Hasler
Kevin Mark writes: the cost of dell (or other products) includes window support and payments from Microsoft and other software makers. This is almost the 'profit' to dell. With an o/s less computer, they would not get this 'profit'... You are not making sense. Rest assured that there is a

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 22:31 -0500, John Hasler wrote: Kevin Mark writes: the cost of dell (or other products) includes window support and payments from Microsoft and other software makers. This is almost the 'profit' to dell. With an o/s less computer, they would not get this 'profit'...

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Mihira Fernando
Michael Pobega wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:00:27PM +0100, José Santos wrote: Anyway, after what happened recently with HP[0] and Dell's unwillingness to comment on HP's actions I'd be pretty paranoid. (Not sure if this was posted in this comment yet, but two times doesn't matter)

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:31:07PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Kevin Mark writes: the cost of dell (or other products) includes window support and payments from Microsoft and other software makers. This is almost the 'profit' to dell. With an o/s

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread CaT
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 12:19:39AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: The sensible way to handle hardware support independent of any installed software would be to ship each pc with a bootable CD with custom Dell test software. Linux would make a convenient base for such a CD. This is something I

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread CaT
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 02:38:04PM +1000, CaT wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 12:19:39AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: The sensible way to handle hardware support independent of any installed software would be to ship each pc with a bootable CD with custom Dell test software. Linux would make

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 02:38:04PM +1000, CaT wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 12:19:39AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: The sensible way to handle hardware support independent of any installed software would be to ship each pc with a bootable CD with

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 02:38:04PM +1000, CaT wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 12:19:39AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: The sensible way to handle hardware support independent of any installed software would be to ship each pc with a bootable CD with

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