Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-09-19 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 06:12:15PM +0200, Francesco Porro wrote: > As a member of this mailing list, I have a little (OT) question for you: > which is the best free email service around to receive mailing lists? None. Free email services are wholly inadequate for professional uses like

RE: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-09-19 Thread Edwin Pers
-Original Message- From: Francesco Porro Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2018 12:12 PM To: Debian Users Subject: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists >Now, i'm using a free account on yahoo, as you can see, but I get some of >email bounces and moreover spam f

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread David Wright
On Wed 29 Aug 2018 at 11:26:31 (-0500), John Hasler wrote: > David writes: > > It's cheap to register your own domain and find a suitable hosting > > provider. This makes moving and travelling much simpler. > > With Gandi at least, no hosting is required. They will forward mail to > your domain

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 29 August 2018 11:58:49 David Wright wrote: > On Wed 29 Aug 2018 at 12:19:18 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 06:12:39AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Wednesday 29 August 2018 04:34:38 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > > We get what we

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:34:37AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > tomás writes: > > You can dream of a society where some basic things aren't monetized. > > Scarce resources *must* be allocated. Trade, facilitated by money, is > a decentralized way to

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread John Hasler
tomás writes: > You can dream of a society where some basic things aren't monetized. Scarce resources *must* be allocated. Trade, facilitated by money, is a decentralized way to do it. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread John Hasler
David writes: > It's cheap to register your own domain and find a suitable hosting > provider. This makes moving and travelling much simpler. With Gandi at least, no hosting is required. They will forward mail to your domain to any address you specify. There needn't be any server of any kind

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 10:48:27AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > tomás writes: > > If you're not paying money, they are monetizing you in some other way. > > This is the sad reality of today's society (not that there aren't > > people fighting to change

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread David Wright
On Wed 29 Aug 2018 at 12:19:18 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 06:12:39AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 29 August 2018 04:34:38 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [...] > > > > We get what we pay for [...] > > > This is also true, but on this side of the pond,

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread John Hasler
tomás writes: > If your connectivity provider treats you well, this is a fine option. > I have my current connectivity provider in relatively low esteem (that > might change), so I wouldn't like to entrust them with something as > (hopefully) permanent as my mail address. Register a domain with

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread John Hasler
tomás writes: > If you're not paying money, they are monetizing you in some other way. > This is the sad reality of today's society (not that there aren't > people fighting to change that, mind you). It's not "the sad reality of today's society". It's reality, period. What they do consumes

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread Francesco Porro
Il 29/08/2018 10:34, to...@tuxteam.de ha scritto: > My recommendation over here in Germany (which should be as accessible > to you as an Italian, but perhaps there are equivalent Italian offers, > which I'd tend to support, were I you) > > - posteo.de > - mailbox.org > > Each of them cost

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread Francesco Porro
Thank you for all your precious advices and considerations, expecially for privacy-releaded concerns. Indeed, I'm very well aware of this aspects, but perhaps you're missing my point: the mailbox will be used *only* for mailing lists, which content is (usually) of public domain, on the web. So

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 12:24:36 +0100 mick crane wrote: Hello mick, >I use Brave browser mostly with handy shields option. >Some of these media sites have like 80 trackers and wotnot which is >just daft. Agreed, but that's something else. "I don't care..." blocks EU required _warnings_ about

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread mick crane
On 2018-08-29 12:09, Brad Rogers wrote: On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 11:05:21 +0100 mick crane wrote: Hello mick, I'm a bit fed up with that stupid cookie notification I have to close on every website anyway. If you use Firefox, install "I don't care about cookies", which disables those warnings

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 11:05:21 +0100 mick crane wrote: Hello mick, >I'm a bit fed up with that stupid cookie notification I have to close >on every website anyway. If you use Firefox, install "I don't care about cookies", which disables those warnings on most sites. If the warning /isn't/

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 06:12:15PM +0200, Francesco Porro wrote: > Ciao, > > As a member of this mailing list, I have a little (OT) question for you: > which is the best free email service around to receive mailing lists? Perhaps relevant in this

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 06:12:39AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 29 August 2018 04:34:38 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > We get what we pay for [...] > This is also true, but on this side of the pond, the inet service I pay > 40 USD

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:05:21AM +0100, mick crane wrote: > On 2018-08-29 10:00, Eric S Fraga wrote: > >On Wednesday, 29 Aug 2018 at 09:49, mick crane wrote: > >>But surely email will stop working after Brexit ? > > > >Maybe, maybe not, but you can

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 29 August 2018 04:34:38 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 06:12:15PM +0200, Francesco Porro wrote: > > Ciao, > > > > As a member of this mailing list, I have a little (OT) question for > > you: which is the best free email service around to receive mailing > > lists?

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread mick crane
On 2018-08-29 10:00, Eric S Fraga wrote: On Wednesday, 29 Aug 2018 at 09:49, mick crane wrote: But surely email will stop working after Brexit ? Maybe, maybe not, but you can get that UK residents will lose any data protection they may currently have. I'm a bit fed up with that stupid

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Wednesday, 29 Aug 2018 at 09:49, mick crane wrote: > But surely email will stop working after Brexit ? Maybe, maybe not, but you can get that UK residents will lose any data protection they may currently have. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50 & org 9.1.13 on Debian buster/sid

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread mick crane
On 2018-08-29 09:34, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 06:12:15PM +0200, Francesco Porro wrote: Ciao, As a member of this mailing list, I have a little (OT) question for you: which is the best free email service around to receive mailing lists? As many others have pointed out

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 06:12:15PM +0200, Francesco Porro wrote: > Ciao, > > As a member of this mailing list, I have a little (OT) question for you: > which is the best free email service around to receive mailing lists? As many others have pointed

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-29 Thread mick crane
On 2018-08-28 17:12, Francesco Porro wrote: Ciao, As a member of this mailing list, I have a little (OT) question for you: which is the best free email service around to receive mailing lists? <> I'm not knowledge enough to have my own email server advertising its presence or host my own

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-28 Thread Ben Finney
Francesco Porro writes: > Sorry, I forgot to mention that I dont't want to run a mail server by > myself. > > Only *free* mail services, please. In that case, I recommend against all such services. The cost of running a mail server that anyone can join for no fee, practically requires that the

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-28 Thread Stefan Krusche
Am Mittwoch, 29. August 2018 schrieb Dominic Knight: > > > have to log in via their website interface to free them out of the > > > spam > > > folder to be able to download them with my precious email client. > > > I've > > That's the fault of your email client or methodology, rather than GMX. >

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-28 Thread Dominic Knight
On Tue, 2018-08-28 at 21:33 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 22:23:46 +0200 > Stefan Krusche wrote: > > Hello Stefan, > > > have to log in via their website interface to free them out of the > > spam > > folder to be able to download them with my precious email client. > > I've >

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-28 Thread Stefan Krusche
Am Dienstag, 28. August 2018 schrieb Brad Rogers: > On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 22:23:46 +0200 > Stefan Krusche wrote: > >have to log in via their website interface to free them out of the spam > >folder to be able to download them with my precious email client. I've > > Is it not possible to whitelist

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-28 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 22:23:46 +0200 Stefan Krusche wrote: Hello Stefan, >have to log in via their website interface to free them out of the spam >folder to be able to download them with my precious email client. I've Is it not possible to whitelist the addresses? >recently started to think

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-28 Thread Stefan Krusche
Am Dienstag, 28. August 2018 schrieb Francesco Porro: > Ciao, > > As a member of this mailing list, I have a little (OT) question for you: > which is the best free email service around to receive mailing lists? > > I mean, somethihng that has a good Imap server, good enough to be > accessed by a

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-28 Thread Mark Rousell
On 28/08/2018 19:08, Miles Fidelman wrote: > I would suggest looking for somebody who runs Sympa. > > Open source, well supported, more "industrial strength" than Mailman > (designed for universities, supporting lots of lists). > > I've been running it on our servers, for at least a decade (who's

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-28 Thread Miles Fidelman
I would suggest looking for somebody who runs Sympa. Open source, well supported, more "industrial strength" than Mailman (designed for universities, supporting lots of lists). I've been running it on our servers, for at least a decade (who's counting) - it's rock solid, well supported by

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-28 Thread Francesco Porro
Il 28/08/2018 18:25, Mark Rousell ha scritto: > Instead I'd say that running your own mail server would be best for this Sorry, I forgot to mention that I dont't want to run a mail server by myself. Il 28/08/2018 18:39, John Hasler ha scritto: > I can personally recommend a paid email service:

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-28 Thread John Hasler
Francesco Porro wrote: > As a member of this mailing list, I have a little (OT) question for you: > which is the best free email service around to receive mailing lists? Mark writes: > I cannot personally recommend any free, proprietary email service > providers. I can personally recommend a

Re: [OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-28 Thread Mark Rousell
On 28/08/2018 17:12, Francesco Porro wrote: > Ciao, > > As a member of this mailing list, I have a little (OT) question for you: > which is the best free email service around to receive mailing lists? I cannot personally recommend any free, proprietary email service providers. Instead I'd say

[OT] Best (o better than yahoo) mail provider for malinglists

2018-08-28 Thread Francesco Porro
Ciao, As a member of this mailing list, I have a little (OT) question for you: which is the best free email service around to receive mailing lists? I mean, somethihng that has a good Imap server, good enough to be accessed by a MUA like Thunderbird without issues, and good spam filter which