Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-02-15 Thread chris 
Bump?

On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 3:29 PM chris  wrote:

> Yes there are many updated kernels to choose from. Please go ahead and do
> so
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 8:21 AM Schwibinger Michael 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes.
>>
>>
>> I found out
>> I do use an old kernel.
>>
>> Can LINUX update a kernel?
>>
>> Regards
>> Sophie
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Von:* chris 
>> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 7. Februar 2024 19:35
>> *An:* Schwibinger Michael 
>> *Betreff:* Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work
>>
>> Very helpful ty
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 7, 2024, 1:57 PM Schwibinger Michael 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Good afternoon.
>>
>> The bug report
>>
>> sudo ...
>> You are not in the sudoers file.
>> Regards
>> Sophie
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Von:* Hans 
>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 26. Januar 2024 18:44
>> *An:* debian-user@lists.debian.org 
>> *Betreff:* Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work
>>
>>
>> Am Freitag, 26. Januar 2024, 17:23:07 CET schrieben Sie:
>>
>> Yes, if you want to install soemthing for example by using the apt
>> command, best way is becoming root with the command "su -" and then install
>> the rquired package.
>>
>>
>> Example:
>>
>> su -  then enter the password of the user root
>>
>>
>> If installing for example firefox, first read the repository:
>>
>>
>> apt update
>>
>>
>> then install the package
>>
>>
>> apt install firefox-esr
>>
>>
>> -
>>
>>
>> Hint: If you want a graphical method and you have no X and Wndow-Manager
>> running (like KDE, Gnome, XFCE whatever), I suggest using aptitude.
>>
>>
>> You have to install aptitude first:
>>
>>
>> apt install aptitude
>>
>>
>> Then you can start the gui with the command "aptitude" as root.
>>
>>
>> Hint 2: aptitude is controlled by keypresses without any enter-key.
>>
>> For example, when started aptitude, just press the "u" key and it reads
>> the update, "U" (Shift + u)  marks all newer packages automatically to be
>> updated, then press "g" and you will shwo, what it will do. Press "g"
>> again, and it will do the update.
>>
>>
>> Please note: If you want to upgrade the whole sytem, then using apt or
>> apt-get will be the better choice!
>>
>>
>> But aptitude is very well for installing single packages or weekly
>> upgrades, where not much packages will be renewed.
>>
>>
>> If you are not much experienced, and you have a window-manager running
>> like KDE, Gnome, XFCE, LXDE or another one, then look at synaptic. Synaptic
>> is a graphical tool for installing packages, it is a GUI for apt.
>>
>>
>> Synaptic MUST run as root.
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>>
>> By the way: I believe, you are not very experienced in English language,
>> so I suggest to suscribe in the fine German forum,
>>
>> which is debian-user-ger...@lists.debioan.org.
>>
>>
>> Here is the link:
>>
>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/
>>
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>>
>> Hans
>>
>>
>>
>> > Sorry
>>
>> > it was my mistake
>>
>> >
>>
>> > It is
>>
>> >
>>
>> > su -
>>
>> > su
>>
>> > or sudo.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Sorry.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Is su -
>>
>> > the best for install?
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Regards
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Sophie
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > 
>>
>> >
>>
>>

Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-02-14 Thread chris 
Yes there are many updated kernels to choose from. Please go ahead and do so



On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 8:21 AM Schwibinger Michael 
wrote:

> Yes.
>
>
> I found out
> I do use an old kernel.
>
> Can LINUX update a kernel?
>
> Regards
> Sophie
>
>
> --
> *Von:* chris 
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 7. Februar 2024 19:35
> *An:* Schwibinger Michael 
> *Betreff:* Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work
>
> Very helpful ty
>
> On Wed, Feb 7, 2024, 1:57 PM Schwibinger Michael  wrote:
>
> Good afternoon.
>
> The bug report
>
> sudo ...
> You are not in the sudoers file.
> Regards
> Sophie
>
>
> --
> *Von:* Hans 
> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 26. Januar 2024 18:44
> *An:* debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> *Betreff:* Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work
>
>
> Am Freitag, 26. Januar 2024, 17:23:07 CET schrieben Sie:
>
> Yes, if you want to install soemthing for example by using the apt
> command, best way is becoming root with the command "su -" and then install
> the rquired package.
>
>
> Example:
>
> su -  then enter the password of the user root
>
>
> If installing for example firefox, first read the repository:
>
>
> apt update
>
>
> then install the package
>
>
> apt install firefox-esr
>
>
> -
>
>
> Hint: If you want a graphical method and you have no X and Wndow-Manager
> running (like KDE, Gnome, XFCE whatever), I suggest using aptitude.
>
>
> You have to install aptitude first:
>
>
> apt install aptitude
>
>
> Then you can start the gui with the command "aptitude" as root.
>
>
> Hint 2: aptitude is controlled by keypresses without any enter-key.
>
> For example, when started aptitude, just press the "u" key and it reads
> the update, "U" (Shift + u)  marks all newer packages automatically to be
> updated, then press "g" and you will shwo, what it will do. Press "g"
> again, and it will do the update.
>
>
> Please note: If you want to upgrade the whole sytem, then using apt or
> apt-get will be the better choice!
>
>
> But aptitude is very well for installing single packages or weekly
> upgrades, where not much packages will be renewed.
>
>
> If you are not much experienced, and you have a window-manager running
> like KDE, Gnome, XFCE, LXDE or another one, then look at synaptic. Synaptic
> is a graphical tool for installing packages, it is a GUI for apt.
>
>
> Synaptic MUST run as root.
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
> By the way: I believe, you are not very experienced in English language,
> so I suggest to suscribe in the fine German forum,
>
> which is debian-user-ger...@lists.debioan.org.
>
>
> Here is the link:
>
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/
>
>
> Good luck!
>
>
> Hans
>
>
>
> > Sorry
>
> > it was my mistake
>
> >
>
> > It is
>
> >
>
> > su -
>
> > su
>
> > or sudo.
>
> >
>
> > Sorry.
>
> >
>
> > Is su -
>
> > the best for install?
>
> >
>
> > Regards
>
> >
>
> > Sophie
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > 
>
> >
>
>

Can Linux update an old kernel [WAS Re: AW: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work]

2024-02-10 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater 
On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 01:21:55PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> Yes.
> 
> 
> I found out
> I do use an old kernel.
> 
> Can LINUX update a kernel?
> 

Hi Sophie,

Yes, of course. As root/sudo user, apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade

But you still don't give anybody any actual *details*

All best, as ever,

Andy

> Regards
> Sophie
> 
> 
> 
> Von: chris 
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 7. Februar 2024 19:35
> An: Schwibinger Michael 
> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work
> 
> Very helpful ty
> 
> On Wed, Feb 7, 2024, 1:57 PM Schwibinger Michael 
> mailto:h...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> Good afternoon.
> 
> The bug report
> 
> sudo ...
> You are not in the sudoers file.
> Regards
> Sophie
> 
> 
> 
> Von: Hans mailto:hans.ullr...@loop.de>>
> Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Januar 2024 18:44
> An: debian-user@lists.debian.org<mailto:debian-user@lists.debian.org> 
> mailto:debian-user@lists.debian.org>>
> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work
> 
> 
> Am Freitag, 26. Januar 2024, 17:23:07 CET schrieben Sie:
> 
> Yes, if you want to install soemthing for example by using the apt command, 
> best way is becoming root with the command "su -" and then install the 
> rquired package.
> 
> 
> Example:
> 
> su -  then enter the password of the user root
> 
> 
> If installing for example firefox, first read the repository:
> 
> 
> apt update
> 
> 
> then install the package
> 
> 
> apt install firefox-esr
> 
> 
> -
> 
> 
> Hint: If you want a graphical method and you have no X and Wndow-Manager 
> running (like KDE, Gnome, XFCE whatever), I suggest using aptitude.
> 
> 
> You have to install aptitude first:
> 
> 
> apt install aptitude
> 
> 
> Then you can start the gui with the command "aptitude" as root.
> 
> 
> Hint 2: aptitude is controlled by keypresses without any enter-key.
> 
> For example, when started aptitude, just press the "u" key and it reads the 
> update, "U" (Shift + u)  marks all newer packages automatically to be 
> updated, then press "g" and you will shwo, what it will do. Press "g" again, 
> and it will do the update.
> 
> 
> Please note: If you want to upgrade the whole sytem, then using apt or 
> apt-get will be the better choice!
> 
> 
> But aptitude is very well for installing single packages or weekly upgrades, 
> where not much packages will be renewed.
> 
> 
> If you are not much experienced, and you have a window-manager running like 
> KDE, Gnome, XFCE, LXDE or another one, then look at synaptic. Synaptic is a 
> graphical tool for installing packages, it is a GUI for apt.
> 
> 
> Synaptic MUST run as root.
> 
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> 
> By the way: I believe, you are not very experienced in English language, so I 
> suggest to suscribe in the fine German forum,
> 
> which is 
> debian-user-ger...@lists.debioan.org<mailto:debian-user-ger...@lists.debioan.org>.
> 
> 
> Here is the link:
> 
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/
> 
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> 
> Hans
> 
> 
> 
> > Sorry
> 
> > it was my mistake
> 
> >
> 
> > It is
> 
> >
> 
> > su -
> 
> > su
> 
> > or sudo.
> 
> >
> 
> > Sorry.
> 
> >
> 
> > Is su -
> 
> > the best for install?
> 
> >
> 
> > Regards
> 
> >
> 
> > Sophie
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> > 
> 
> >

AW: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-02-10 Thread Schwibinger Michael 
Yes.


I found out
I do use an old kernel.

Can LINUX update a kernel?

Regards
Sophie



Von: chris 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 7. Februar 2024 19:35
An: Schwibinger Michael 
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

Very helpful ty

On Wed, Feb 7, 2024, 1:57 PM Schwibinger Michael 
mailto:h...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Good afternoon.

The bug report

sudo ...
You are not in the sudoers file.
Regards
Sophie



Von: Hans mailto:hans.ullr...@loop.de>>
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Januar 2024 18:44
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org<mailto:debian-user@lists.debian.org> 
mailto:debian-user@lists.debian.org>>
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work


Am Freitag, 26. Januar 2024, 17:23:07 CET schrieben Sie:

Yes, if you want to install soemthing for example by using the apt command, 
best way is becoming root with the command "su -" and then install the rquired 
package.


Example:

su -  then enter the password of the user root


If installing for example firefox, first read the repository:


apt update


then install the package


apt install firefox-esr


-


Hint: If you want a graphical method and you have no X and Wndow-Manager 
running (like KDE, Gnome, XFCE whatever), I suggest using aptitude.


You have to install aptitude first:


apt install aptitude


Then you can start the gui with the command "aptitude" as root.


Hint 2: aptitude is controlled by keypresses without any enter-key.

For example, when started aptitude, just press the "u" key and it reads the 
update, "U" (Shift + u)  marks all newer packages automatically to be updated, 
then press "g" and you will shwo, what it will do. Press "g" again, and it will 
do the update.


Please note: If you want to upgrade the whole sytem, then using apt or apt-get 
will be the better choice!


But aptitude is very well for installing single packages or weekly upgrades, 
where not much packages will be renewed.


If you are not much experienced, and you have a window-manager running like 
KDE, Gnome, XFCE, LXDE or another one, then look at synaptic. Synaptic is a 
graphical tool for installing packages, it is a GUI for apt.


Synaptic MUST run as root.


Hope this helps.


By the way: I believe, you are not very experienced in English language, so I 
suggest to suscribe in the fine German forum,

which is 
debian-user-ger...@lists.debioan.org<mailto:debian-user-ger...@lists.debioan.org>.


Here is the link:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/


Good luck!


Hans



> Sorry

> it was my mistake

>

> It is

>

> su -

> su

> or sudo.

>

> Sorry.

>

> Is su -

> the best for install?

>

> Regards

>

> Sophie

>

>

> 

>

Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-02-07 Thread chris 
Nobody has ever used it no

On Wed, Feb 7, 2024, 2:17 PM Schwibinger Michael  wrote:

>
> Good afternoon
>
> I did send the bugreport.
>
> Thank You.
> Did anybody use the rescue mode?
>
> Regards Sophie
>
>
> --
> *Von:* Andrew M.A. Cater 
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 31. Januar 2024 20:36
> *An:* debian-user@lists.debian.org ;
> Schwibinger Michael 
> *Betreff:* Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work
>
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 01:58:41PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> > Good afternoon
> > I think
> > maybe Im sure
> > it is because of rescue mode.
> >
> Hi Sophie,
>
> Once again: we need to you to show us what commands you run.
>
> We need to see error messages.
>
> if you cannot run sudo or su, we need you to run the id command
> as previously suggested.
>
> We have literally nothing of use from you to help any of us problem
> solve. This is throwing good effort away in persuading you to help us.
>
> Also - please address requests first to the list and not to individuals -
> it makes it a lot easier to follow on the list.
>
> > Normal booting did not have this problem.
> >
> > Anybody familiar with panic?
> >
> > Regards
> > Thank You
> > Sophie
> >
> Andy
> >
> > 
> > Von: Andrew M.A. Cater 
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Januar 2024 18:40
> > An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> > Betreff: Re: AW: su su- sudo dont work
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 03:53:10PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> > > Good afternoon
> > > Why do I have to open a group?
> > >
> >
> > This is to *tell* us information about why you're having problems with su
> > and sudo
> >
> > Running the
> >
> > id
> >
> > command should give you information like
> >
> > uid=1000(amacater) gid=1000(amacater) groups=1000(amacater),27(sudo)
> >
> > which shows you that my user - amacater - is the first user on the
> > machine (because Debian starts user id numbers at 1000 for ordinary
> > users) and that I'm a member of group sudo - so can use sudo instead of
> su.
> >
> > /etc/sudoers will show you what privileges the sudo user has.
> > Here are the last lines of the file on my machine (which has not been
> > modified from Debian defaults)
> >
> > # User privilege specification
> > rootALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
> >
> > # Allow members of group sudo to execute any command
> > %sudo   ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
> >
> > # See sudoers(5) for more information on "@include" directives:
> >
> > @includedir /etc/sudoers.d
> > (END)
> >
> > If you are _not_ a user of group sudo for whatever reason - and want to
> > use sudo - then you will need root privileges and the root password
> > (once) to add your user name to the group.
> >
> > For example: adduser sophie sudo
> >
> > I hope this helps
> >
> > > 2 years ago
> > > sudo was no problem.
> > >
> >
> > As yet, we have *no idea* what you have done in the last two years to
> > break your Debian system - or even to know which kernel you boot or
> > how you "rescue" your system when you log onto it every day.
> >
> > Please give us information in order that the readers on this list can
> > use their knowledge to help you.
> >
> > With every good wish, as ever,
> >
> > Andy
> > (amaca...@debian.org)
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Sophie
> > >
> > > Thank You
> > > 
> > > Von: Timothy M Butterworth 
> > > Gesendet: Montag, 22. Januar 2024 00:07
> > > An: Schwibinger Michael 
> > > Cc: Greg Wooledge ; debian-user@lists.debian.org <
> debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> > > Betreff: Re: su su- sudo dont work
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 4:07 PM Schwibinger Michael  <mailto:h...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> > > Thank You
> > > Example
> > > I say
> > >
> > > sudo apt-get install firefox
> > > Reaction LINUX
> > > This is not allowed we send a message to the admin.
> > >
> > > This error message means that your account is not in the sudo group.
> > >
> > > Run the command "groups" and look for the group sudo.
> > > groups
> > >
> > > Here is the command to add a user account to the sudo group. You will
> need to run it as root.

Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-02-07 Thread chris 
Very helpful ty

On Wed, Feb 7, 2024, 1:57 PM Schwibinger Michael  wrote:

> Good afternoon.
>
> The bug report
>
> sudo ...
> You are not in the sudoers file.
> Regards
> Sophie
>
>
> --
> *Von:* Hans 
> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 26. Januar 2024 18:44
> *An:* debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> *Betreff:* Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work
>
>
> Am Freitag, 26. Januar 2024, 17:23:07 CET schrieben Sie:
>
> Yes, if you want to install soemthing for example by using the apt
> command, best way is becoming root with the command "su -" and then install
> the rquired package.
>
>
> Example:
>
> su -  then enter the password of the user root
>
>
> If installing for example firefox, first read the repository:
>
>
> apt update
>
>
> then install the package
>
>
> apt install firefox-esr
>
>
> -
>
>
> Hint: If you want a graphical method and you have no X and Wndow-Manager
> running (like KDE, Gnome, XFCE whatever), I suggest using aptitude.
>
>
> You have to install aptitude first:
>
>
> apt install aptitude
>
>
> Then you can start the gui with the command "aptitude" as root.
>
>
> Hint 2: aptitude is controlled by keypresses without any enter-key.
>
> For example, when started aptitude, just press the "u" key and it reads
> the update, "U" (Shift + u)  marks all newer packages automatically to be
> updated, then press "g" and you will shwo, what it will do. Press "g"
> again, and it will do the update.
>
>
> Please note: If you want to upgrade the whole sytem, then using apt or
> apt-get will be the better choice!
>
>
> But aptitude is very well for installing single packages or weekly
> upgrades, where not much packages will be renewed.
>
>
> If you are not much experienced, and you have a window-manager running
> like KDE, Gnome, XFCE, LXDE or another one, then look at synaptic. Synaptic
> is a graphical tool for installing packages, it is a GUI for apt.
>
>
> Synaptic MUST run as root.
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
> By the way: I believe, you are not very experienced in English language,
> so I suggest to suscribe in the fine German forum,
>
> which is debian-user-ger...@lists.debioan.org.
>
>
> Here is the link:
>
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/
>
>
> Good luck!
>
>
> Hans
>
>
>
> > Sorry
>
> > it was my mistake
>
> >
>
> > It is
>
> >
>
> > su -
>
> > su
>
> > or sudo.
>
> >
>
> > Sorry.
>
> >
>
> > Is su -
>
> > the best for install?
>
> >
>
> > Regards
>
> >
>
> > Sophie
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > 
>
> >
>

Request for output of commands [WAS Re: AW: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work]

2024-02-07 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater 
On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 02:15:06PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> 
> Good afternoon
> 
> I did send the bugreport.
> 
> Thank You.
> Did anybody use the rescue mode?
> 
> Regards Sophie
> 
> 
> 
> Von: Andrew M.A. Cater 
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Januar 2024 20:36
> An: debian-user@lists.debian.org ; Schwibinger 
> Michael 
> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work
> 
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 01:58:41PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> > Good afternoon
> > I think
> > maybe Im sure
> > it is because of rescue mode.
> >
> Hi Sophie,
> 
> Once again: we need to you to show us what commands you run.
> 
> We need to see error messages.
> 
> if you cannot run sudo or su, we need you to run the id command
> as previously suggested.
> 

Where is the output of the id command?

The other message you quote suggests that you aren't in the sudo group

*Show the error messages*


> Also - please address requests first to the list and not to individuals -
> it makes it a lot easier to follow on the list.
> 

>From the output of my mailer: you sent first to me, copy to the list -
could you please do this the other way round as requested. It is more
important for the list to see this - and it also means that there is
no personal reply sent to the list by mistake: any personal reply is
intended as such.

> > Normal booting did not have this problem.
> >
> > Anybody familiar with panic?
> >

Yes: a (kernel) panic can have many causes: if you can give us meaningful
responses, we may be able to help. In the absence of these, you only
get guesses - wheich may or may not be helpful.

Again, as previously requested, please use meaningful subjects on your
emails so that we can deal with one issue at a time.

Andy
(amaca...@debian.org)


> > Regards
> > Thank You
> > Sophie
> >
> Andy
> >
> > 
> > Von: Andrew M.A. Cater 
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Januar 2024 18:40
> > An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> > Betreff: Re: AW: su su- sudo dont work
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 03:53:10PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> > > Good afternoon
> > > Why do I have to open a group?
> > >
> >
> > This is to *tell* us information about why you're having problems with su
> > and sudo
> >
> > Running the
> >
> > id
> >
> > command should give you information like
> >
> > uid=1000(amacater) gid=1000(amacater) groups=1000(amacater),27(sudo)
> >
> > which shows you that my user - amacater - is the first user on the
> > machine (because Debian starts user id numbers at 1000 for ordinary
> > users) and that I'm a member of group sudo - so can use sudo instead of su.
> >
> > /etc/sudoers will show you what privileges the sudo user has.
> > Here are the last lines of the file on my machine (which has not been
> > modified from Debian defaults)
> >
> > # User privilege specification
> > rootALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
> >
> > # Allow members of group sudo to execute any command
> > %sudo   ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
> >
> > # See sudoers(5) for more information on "@include" directives:
> >
> > @includedir /etc/sudoers.d
> > (END)
> >
> > If you are _not_ a user of group sudo for whatever reason - and want to
> > use sudo - then you will need root privileges and the root password
> > (once) to add your user name to the group.
> >
> > For example: adduser sophie sudo
> >
> > I hope this helps
> >
> > > 2 years ago
> > > sudo was no problem.
> > >
> >
> > As yet, we have *no idea* what you have done in the last two years to
> > break your Debian system - or even to know which kernel you boot or
> > how you "rescue" your system when you log onto it every day.
> >
> > Please give us information in order that the readers on this list can
> > use their knowledge to help you.
> >
> > With every good wish, as ever,
> >
> > Andy
> > (amaca...@debian.org)
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Sophie
> > >
> > > Thank You
> > > 
> > > Von: Timothy M Butterworth 
> > > Gesendet: Montag, 22. Januar 2024 00:07
> > > An: Schwibinger Michael 
> > > Cc: Greg Wooledge ; debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> > > 
> > > Betreff: Re: su su- sudo dont work
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 4:07 PM Schwibinger Michael 
> > > mailto

AW: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-02-07 Thread Schwibinger Michael 

Good afternoon

I did send the bugreport.

Thank You.
Did anybody use the rescue mode?

Regards Sophie



Von: Andrew M.A. Cater 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Januar 2024 20:36
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org ; Schwibinger 
Michael 
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 01:58:41PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> Good afternoon
> I think
> maybe Im sure
> it is because of rescue mode.
>
Hi Sophie,

Once again: we need to you to show us what commands you run.

We need to see error messages.

if you cannot run sudo or su, we need you to run the id command
as previously suggested.

We have literally nothing of use from you to help any of us problem
solve. This is throwing good effort away in persuading you to help us.

Also - please address requests first to the list and not to individuals -
it makes it a lot easier to follow on the list.

> Normal booting did not have this problem.
>
> Anybody familiar with panic?
>
> Regards
> Thank You
> Sophie
>
Andy
>
> 
> Von: Andrew M.A. Cater 
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Januar 2024 18:40
> An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> Betreff: Re: AW: su su- sudo dont work
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 03:53:10PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> > Good afternoon
> > Why do I have to open a group?
> >
>
> This is to *tell* us information about why you're having problems with su
> and sudo
>
> Running the
>
> id
>
> command should give you information like
>
> uid=1000(amacater) gid=1000(amacater) groups=1000(amacater),27(sudo)
>
> which shows you that my user - amacater - is the first user on the
> machine (because Debian starts user id numbers at 1000 for ordinary
> users) and that I'm a member of group sudo - so can use sudo instead of su.
>
> /etc/sudoers will show you what privileges the sudo user has.
> Here are the last lines of the file on my machine (which has not been
> modified from Debian defaults)
>
> # User privilege specification
> rootALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
>
> # Allow members of group sudo to execute any command
> %sudo   ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
>
> # See sudoers(5) for more information on "@include" directives:
>
> @includedir /etc/sudoers.d
> (END)
>
> If you are _not_ a user of group sudo for whatever reason - and want to
> use sudo - then you will need root privileges and the root password
> (once) to add your user name to the group.
>
> For example: adduser sophie sudo
>
> I hope this helps
>
> > 2 years ago
> > sudo was no problem.
> >
>
> As yet, we have *no idea* what you have done in the last two years to
> break your Debian system - or even to know which kernel you boot or
> how you "rescue" your system when you log onto it every day.
>
> Please give us information in order that the readers on this list can
> use their knowledge to help you.
>
> With every good wish, as ever,
>
> Andy
> (amaca...@debian.org)
> > Regards
> >
> > Sophie
> >
> > Thank You
> > 
> > Von: Timothy M Butterworth 
> > Gesendet: Montag, 22. Januar 2024 00:07
> > An: Schwibinger Michael 
> > Cc: Greg Wooledge ; debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> > 
> > Betreff: Re: su su- sudo dont work
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 4:07 PM Schwibinger Michael 
> > mailto:h...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> > Thank You
> > Example
> > I say
> >
> > sudo apt-get install firefox
> > Reaction LINUX
> > This is not allowed we send a message to the admin.
> >
> > This error message means that your account is not in the sudo group.
> >
> > Run the command "groups" and look for the group sudo.
> > groups
> >
> > Here is the command to add a user account to the sudo group. You will need 
> > to run it as root.
> > usermod -a -G sudo 
> >
> > I do open root terminal
> > there its working.
> > Regards
> > Sophie
> >
> > 
> > Von: Greg Wooledge mailto:g...@wooledge.org>>
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 20. Januar 2024 14:14
> > An: debian-user@lists.debian.org<mailto:debian-user@lists.debian.org> 
> > mailto:debian-user@lists.debian.org>>
> > Betreff: Re: su su- sudo dont work
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 01:26:06PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> > > Good afternoon.
> > > Root terminal is fine.
> > > What do I do wrong?
> > > What did I destroy?
> > >
> > > PC does have only one user=admin.
> > >
> > > Regar

AW: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-02-07 Thread Schwibinger Michael 

Its no fun
its not dangerous.
I do use the root terminal.

I dont use my real name in www,
to much SPAM then.

Regards
Sophie

Problem is cause of the panic.


Von: Andy Smith 
Gesendet: Samstag, 27. Januar 2024 09:47
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

Hi Hans,

On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 10:23:09AM +0100, Hans wrote:
> I see this exactly as you and are watching this list for may years.

I'm not sure who you're replying to as you've removed those details,
though I may guess from your In-Reply-To header which doesn't point
to a list message. You haven't replied to an off-list (personal)
mail back onto the list have you? Be careful there!

> But since the beginning, I had the suspicion, that someone just
> wants to make fun with us.

It is hard to understand how what Michael/Sophie/Tobias does can in
any way be "fun" for them, though maybe that is just our lack of
understanding.

Either they are incredibly confused by Linux or they are pretending
to be for reasons beyond my understanding. Whatever the case, I
don't think I have ever seen one of their threads result in a
positive resolution.

It's probably best to not assume that what we don't understand is
hostile and/or an AI experiment. Even so, that doesn't mean it is
possible to help.

Thanks,
Andy

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AW: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-02-07 Thread Schwibinger Michael 
Good afternoon.

The bug report

sudo ...
You are not in the sudoers file.
Regards
Sophie



Von: Hans 
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Januar 2024 18:44
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work


Am Freitag, 26. Januar 2024, 17:23:07 CET schrieben Sie:

Yes, if you want to install soemthing for example by using the apt command, 
best way is becoming root with the command "su -" and then install the rquired 
package.


Example:

su -  then enter the password of the user root


If installing for example firefox, first read the repository:


apt update


then install the package


apt install firefox-esr


-


Hint: If you want a graphical method and you have no X and Wndow-Manager 
running (like KDE, Gnome, XFCE whatever), I suggest using aptitude.


You have to install aptitude first:


apt install aptitude


Then you can start the gui with the command "aptitude" as root.


Hint 2: aptitude is controlled by keypresses without any enter-key.

For example, when started aptitude, just press the "u" key and it reads the 
update, "U" (Shift + u)  marks all newer packages automatically to be updated, 
then press "g" and you will shwo, what it will do. Press "g" again, and it will 
do the update.


Please note: If you want to upgrade the whole sytem, then using apt or apt-get 
will be the better choice!


But aptitude is very well for installing single packages or weekly upgrades, 
where not much packages will be renewed.


If you are not much experienced, and you have a window-manager running like 
KDE, Gnome, XFCE, LXDE or another one, then look at synaptic. Synaptic is a 
graphical tool for installing packages, it is a GUI for apt.


Synaptic MUST run as root.


Hope this helps.


By the way: I believe, you are not very experienced in English language, so I 
suggest to suscribe in the fine German forum,

which is debian-user-ger...@lists.debioan.org.


Here is the link:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/


Good luck!


Hans



> Sorry

> it was my mistake

>

> It is

>

> su -

> su

> or sudo.

>

> Sorry.

>

> Is su -

> the best for install?

>

> Regards

>

> Sophie

>

>

> 

>

Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-02-02 Thread Timothy M Butterworth 
On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 7:17 PM Schwibinger Michael  wrote:

> Good afternoon
>
> Before there was panic
>
> su
> su -
> sudo
> did work.
>
> Somebody does have experience with
> rescue mode?
>

If you are in Single User Mode you are already root and do not need: su or
sudo.



> Regards
> Sophie
>
>
> --
> *Von:* Greg Wooledge 
> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 26. Januar 2024 17:45
> *An:* debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> *Betreff:* Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work
>
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 04:23:07PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> > su -
> > su
> > or sudo.
> >
> > Is su -
> > the best for install?
>
> Whatever works best for *you* is best.  "su -" is quite popular.
> If it does what you need, and is convenient for you, then there's
> your answer.
>
>

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AW: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-02-02 Thread Schwibinger Michael 
Good afternoon

Before there was panic

su
su -
sudo
did work.

Somebody does have experience with
rescue mode?

Regards
Sophie



Von: Greg Wooledge 
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Januar 2024 17:45
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 04:23:07PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> su -
> su
> or sudo.
>
> Is su -
> the best for install?

Whatever works best for *you* is best.  "su -" is quite popular.
If it does what you need, and is convenient for you, then there's
your answer.

Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-31 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater 
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 01:58:41PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> Good afternoon
> I think
> maybe Im sure
> it is because of rescue mode.
> 
Hi Sophie,

Once again: we need to you to show us what commands you run.

We need to see error messages.

if you cannot run sudo or su, we need you to run the id command
as previously suggested.

We have literally nothing of use from you to help any of us problem
solve. This is throwing good effort away in persuading you to help us.

Also - please address requests first to the list and not to individuals -
it makes it a lot easier to follow on the list.

> Normal booting did not have this problem.
> 
> Anybody familiar with panic?
> 
> Regards
> Thank You
> Sophie
> 
Andy
> 
> 
> Von: Andrew M.A. Cater 
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Januar 2024 18:40
> An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> Betreff: Re: AW: su su- sudo dont work
> 
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 03:53:10PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> > Good afternoon
> > Why do I have to open a group?
> >
> 
> This is to *tell* us information about why you're having problems with su
> and sudo
> 
> Running the
> 
> id
> 
> command should give you information like
> 
> uid=1000(amacater) gid=1000(amacater) groups=1000(amacater),27(sudo)
> 
> which shows you that my user - amacater - is the first user on the
> machine (because Debian starts user id numbers at 1000 for ordinary
> users) and that I'm a member of group sudo - so can use sudo instead of su.
> 
> /etc/sudoers will show you what privileges the sudo user has.
> Here are the last lines of the file on my machine (which has not been
> modified from Debian defaults)
> 
> # User privilege specification
> rootALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
> 
> # Allow members of group sudo to execute any command
> %sudo   ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
> 
> # See sudoers(5) for more information on "@include" directives:
> 
> @includedir /etc/sudoers.d
> (END)
> 
> If you are _not_ a user of group sudo for whatever reason - and want to
> use sudo - then you will need root privileges and the root password
> (once) to add your user name to the group.
> 
> For example: adduser sophie sudo
> 
> I hope this helps
> 
> > 2 years ago
> > sudo was no problem.
> >
> 
> As yet, we have *no idea* what you have done in the last two years to
> break your Debian system - or even to know which kernel you boot or
> how you "rescue" your system when you log onto it every day.
> 
> Please give us information in order that the readers on this list can
> use their knowledge to help you.
> 
> With every good wish, as ever,
> 
> Andy
> (amaca...@debian.org)
> > Regards
> >
> > Sophie
> >
> > Thank You
> > 
> > Von: Timothy M Butterworth 
> > Gesendet: Montag, 22. Januar 2024 00:07
> > An: Schwibinger Michael 
> > Cc: Greg Wooledge ; debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> > 
> > Betreff: Re: su su- sudo dont work
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 4:07 PM Schwibinger Michael 
> > mailto:h...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> > Thank You
> > Example
> > I say
> >
> > sudo apt-get install firefox
> > Reaction LINUX
> > This is not allowed we send a message to the admin.
> >
> > This error message means that your account is not in the sudo group.
> >
> > Run the command "groups" and look for the group sudo.
> > groups
> >
> > Here is the command to add a user account to the sudo group. You will need 
> > to run it as root.
> > usermod -a -G sudo 
> >
> > I do open root terminal
> > there its working.
> > Regards
> > Sophie
> >
> > 
> > Von: Greg Wooledge mailto:g...@wooledge.org>>
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 20. Januar 2024 14:14
> > An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> > mailto:debian-user@lists.debian.org>>
> > Betreff: Re: su su- sudo dont work
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 01:26:06PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> > > Good afternoon.
> > > Root terminal is fine.
> > > What do I do wrong?
> > > What did I destroy?
> > >
> > > PC does have only one user=admin.
> > >
> > > Regards Sophie
> > > Is it the rescue mode?
> >
> > Explain, please.
> >
> > Your Subject: header says "su su- sudo dont work".  What does this MEAN?
> >
> > Please show us your attempts to USE each of these commands, and the
> > results that you got.  This means, run the commands in a terminal
> > window, and then PASTE the contents of that terminal window into the
> > body of your next email.  Show us the shell prompt, the command as you
> > typed it, and the full output.
> >
> > In other words, show us WHAT IS WRONG, or at least what appears wrong.
> >
> > In addition, please give basic background information -- what version
> > of Debian you are running, what desktop environment if any, how you
> > logged in (*especially* if it isn't just a "standard graphical login
> > for your desktop environment"), and anything else you can think of
> > that might be relevant.
> >
> > How does "rescue mode" factor into the problem?
> >
> > When

AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-31 Thread Schwibinger Michael 
Good afternoon
I think
maybe Im sure
it is because of rescue mode.

Normal booting did not have this problem.

Anybody familiar with panic?

Regards
Thank You
Sophie



Von: Andrew M.A. Cater 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Januar 2024 18:40
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: AW: su su- sudo dont work

On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 03:53:10PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> Good afternoon
> Why do I have to open a group?
>

This is to *tell* us information about why you're having problems with su
and sudo

Running the

id

command should give you information like

uid=1000(amacater) gid=1000(amacater) groups=1000(amacater),27(sudo)

which shows you that my user - amacater - is the first user on the
machine (because Debian starts user id numbers at 1000 for ordinary
users) and that I'm a member of group sudo - so can use sudo instead of su.

/etc/sudoers will show you what privileges the sudo user has.
Here are the last lines of the file on my machine (which has not been
modified from Debian defaults)

# User privilege specification
rootALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL

# Allow members of group sudo to execute any command
%sudo   ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL

# See sudoers(5) for more information on "@include" directives:

@includedir /etc/sudoers.d
(END)

If you are _not_ a user of group sudo for whatever reason - and want to
use sudo - then you will need root privileges and the root password
(once) to add your user name to the group.

For example: adduser sophie sudo

I hope this helps

> 2 years ago
> sudo was no problem.
>

As yet, we have *no idea* what you have done in the last two years to
break your Debian system - or even to know which kernel you boot or
how you "rescue" your system when you log onto it every day.

Please give us information in order that the readers on this list can
use their knowledge to help you.

With every good wish, as ever,

Andy
(amaca...@debian.org)
> Regards
>
> Sophie
>
> Thank You
> 
> Von: Timothy M Butterworth 
> Gesendet: Montag, 22. Januar 2024 00:07
> An: Schwibinger Michael 
> Cc: Greg Wooledge ; debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> 
> Betreff: Re: su su- sudo dont work
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 4:07 PM Schwibinger Michael 
> mailto:h...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> Thank You
> Example
> I say
>
> sudo apt-get install firefox
> Reaction LINUX
> This is not allowed we send a message to the admin.
>
> This error message means that your account is not in the sudo group.
>
> Run the command "groups" and look for the group sudo.
> groups
>
> Here is the command to add a user account to the sudo group. You will need to 
> run it as root.
> usermod -a -G sudo 
>
> I do open root terminal
> there its working.
> Regards
> Sophie
>
> 
> Von: Greg Wooledge mailto:g...@wooledge.org>>
> Gesendet: Samstag, 20. Januar 2024 14:14
> An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> mailto:debian-user@lists.debian.org>>
> Betreff: Re: su su- sudo dont work
>
> On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 01:26:06PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> > Good afternoon.
> > Root terminal is fine.
> > What do I do wrong?
> > What did I destroy?
> >
> > PC does have only one user=admin.
> >
> > Regards Sophie
> > Is it the rescue mode?
>
> Explain, please.
>
> Your Subject: header says "su su- sudo dont work".  What does this MEAN?
>
> Please show us your attempts to USE each of these commands, and the
> results that you got.  This means, run the commands in a terminal
> window, and then PASTE the contents of that terminal window into the
> body of your next email.  Show us the shell prompt, the command as you
> typed it, and the full output.
>
> In other words, show us WHAT IS WRONG, or at least what appears wrong.
>
> In addition, please give basic background information -- what version
> of Debian you are running, what desktop environment if any, how you
> logged in (*especially* if it isn't just a "standard graphical login
> for your desktop environment"), and anything else you can think of
> that might be relevant.
>
> How does "rescue mode" factor into the problem?
>
> When you installed Debian, did you give a root password, or did you
> leave it blank?
>
> Finally, it would be helpful for you to run the "id" command (with no
> arguments), in the same terminal session as your failed su or sudo
> command(s), and include that command and its output in your paste.
>
>
>
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Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-27 Thread Andy Smith 
Hello,

On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 11:05:30AM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Andy Smith wrote:
> > It is hard to understand how what Michael/Sophie/Tobias does can in
> > any way be "fun" for them, though maybe that is just our lack of
> > understanding.
> 
> I expressed my suspicion of a "Hurz" performance in
>   https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/05/msg00100.html

Okay, but it seems to me that watching an audience try to take a
nonsense opera seriously is a bit more sophisticated and has scope
for amusement, unlike for example an endless stream of mispastes and
misunderstandings about "sudo" and "su".

But I guess what one finds amusing can have a very wide variability…

Thanks,
Andy

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Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt 
Hi,

Andy Smith wrote:
> It is hard to understand how what Michael/Sophie/Tobias does can in
> any way be "fun" for them, though maybe that is just our lack of
> understanding.

I expressed my suspicion of a "Hurz" performance in
  https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/05/msg00100.html


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-27 Thread Andy Smith 
Hi Hans,

On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 10:23:09AM +0100, Hans wrote:
> I see this exactly as you and are watching this list for may years.

I'm not sure who you're replying to as you've removed those details,
though I may guess from your In-Reply-To header which doesn't point
to a list message. You haven't replied to an off-list (personal)
mail back onto the list have you? Be careful there!

> But since the beginning, I had the suspicion, that someone just
> wants to make fun with us.

It is hard to understand how what Michael/Sophie/Tobias does can in
any way be "fun" for them, though maybe that is just our lack of
understanding.

Either they are incredibly confused by Linux or they are pretending
to be for reasons beyond my understanding. Whatever the case, I
don't think I have ever seen one of their threads result in a
positive resolution.

It's probably best to not assume that what we don't understand is
hostile and/or an AI experiment. Even so, that doesn't mean it is
possible to help.

Thanks,
Andy

-- 
https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-27 Thread Hans 
I see this exactly as you and are watching this list for may years.

However, I wanted not to be so directly because I want not to blame anyone on 
this list.

But since the beginning, I had the suspicion, that someone just wants to make 
fun with us.

Aleady from the beginning I checked after the mail adress (please note, I am 
German myself) and found some theater group behind the mailadress. 

So I personally(!) believe, the group is making fun with us, but even then I 
gave him a chance. 

And again I personally(!) (and this is my very personal opinion), I think, 
nobody is so stupid, that he/she can not do a su or install a package. NOT 
after 2 years!!!

For me, I will get no help here for this person, just ignore it. This is my 
very personal decision!

Sorry to say it, but for me personally it looks like fake! Like a morone, like 
a troll.

And those I can not support, sorry.

Please excuse, I do not want to hurt anyone, just tell, what I think.

Best regards

Hans  

> I see very similar posts in the German language list from the last two
> years but as Tobias Schwibingerr or similar - also signed by a Sophie
> 
> When I asked this question some time ago, it seems that the German language
> list had concluded that this person might be a troll (or even a psychology
> experiment / AI) :(
> 
> Like you, I have attempted to engage - but I think none of us will see
> any change - I think the German list pays no attention / may have blocked
> this user.
>

Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-26 Thread Hans 
Am Freitag, 26. Januar 2024, 17:23:07 CET schrieben Sie:
Yes, if you want to install soemthing for example by using the apt command, 
best way is 
becoming root with the command "su -" and then install the rquired package.


Example:
su -  then enter the password of the user root


If installing for example firefox, first read the repository:


apt update


then install the package


apt install firefox-esr


-


Hint: If you want a graphical method and you have no X and Wndow-Manager 
running (like KDE, 
Gnome, XFCE whatever), I suggest using aptitude.


You have to install aptitude first:


apt install aptitude


Then you can start the gui with the command "aptitude" as root.


Hint 2: aptitude is controlled by keypresses without any enter-key.
For example, when started aptitude, just press the "u" key and it reads the 
update, "U" (Shift + 
u)  marks all newer packages automatically to be updated, then press "g" and 
you will shwo, 
what it will do. Press "g" again, and it will do the update.


Please note: If you want to upgrade the whole sytem, then using apt or apt-get 
will be the 
better choice!


But aptitude is very well for installing single packages or weekly upgrades, 
where not much 
packages will be renewed.


If you are not much experienced, and you have a window-manager running like 
KDE, Gnome, 
XFCE, LXDE or another one, then look at synaptic. Synaptic is a graphical tool 
for installing 
packages, it is a GUI for apt.


Synaptic MUST run as root.


Hope this helps.


By the way: I believe, you are not very experienced in English language, so I 
suggest to suscribe 
in the fine German forum, 
which is debian-user-ger...@lists.debioan.org.


Here is the link:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/[1]


Good luck!


Hans



> Sorry
> it was my mistake
> 
> It is
> 
> su -
> su
> or sudo.
> 
> Sorry.
> 
> Is su -
> the best for install?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Sophie
> 
> 
> 
>


[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/

Re: AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-26 Thread Greg Wooledge 
On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 04:23:07PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> su -
> su
> or sudo.
> 
> Is su -
> the best for install?

Whatever works best for *you* is best.  "su -" is quite popular.
If it does what you need, and is convenient for you, then there's
your answer.

AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-26 Thread Schwibinger Michael 

Sorry
it was my mistake

It is

su -
su
or sudo.

Sorry.

Is su -
the best for install?

Regards

Sophie



Von: Hans 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. Januar 2024 18:29
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: AW: su su- sudo dont work

Am Dienstag, 23. Januar 2024, 13:54:25 CET schrieb Schwibinger Michael:
For gvetting root as normal user, best is use "su -".

Note: It is not "su-", but "su -", with a space between su and the minus sign.

Good luck!

Hans

> Thank You.
>
> 2 questions
> 1
> Is the best to use su-
> for ding install?
> 2
> All 4 dont work.
> What do I do wrong?
> Regards
> Sophie
>
>

AW: AW: su su- sudo dont work

2024-01-24 Thread Schwibinger Michael 
Good afternoon
Thank You.

I ll print it out and read it.

2 questions:

Is this the same problem with su
su -
su -p?

Is it not a problem of rescue mode,
before panic it did work.

Problem:
root terminal is not accepting copy paste.
Regards
Sophie



Von: Greg Wooledge 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. Januar 2024 14:40
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: AW: su su- sudo dont work

On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 12:57:17PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> sudo apt-get install firefox
> Reaction LINUX
> This is not allowed we send a message to the admin.
>
> I do open root terminal
> there its working.

It sounds like you are not authorized to use "sudo" on this computer.

This is precisely the scenario for which I requested that you run the
"id" command and paste its output into your email.  If you are in
the "sudo" group, then you should be allowed to use sudo.  Here, for
example, is my output:

unicorn:~$ id
uid=1000(greg) gid=1000(greg) 
groups=1000(greg),24(cdrom),25(floppy),27(sudo),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),108(netdev)

You can see that it includes ",27(sudo)" which demonstrates that I am in
the sudo group, and I am therefore allowed to use sudo on this computer.

If your output does not include this group, then we see the cause.
And then the solution becomes obvious.

We would also see your UID, and this might inform us as to *underlying*
reasons why you are not in the sudo group.  Maybe this isn't UID 1000
(the one created during installation).  Maybe it's a user that was
created later, with a higher UID.  In that case, it's *normal* for you
not to be in the sudo group, until you explicitly add yourself.

We would also see your username, so that if we have to tell you to
run a command to add yourself to the sudo group, we'd be able to give
you the *exact* command, and you could just paste it, or type it,
without having to think.

All of this would have been *REVEALED TO US* if you had simply done what
we asked.

At this point, after years of your membership here, I don't think I've
ever seen you paste information from a Debian terminal session into
your emails.  This leads me to believe you are *incapable* of doing so,
for one reason or another.  Maybe the Debian system is air-gapped,
and you can't ssh to it from the system where you compose emails.
Maybe you compose emails on a handheld mobile device which can't ssh or
copy text.  Maybe you're just too technologically ignorant to do things
like installing PuTTY on Windows and using that to ssh into Debian to
run the commands so they can be pasted.

All I know for sure is that helping you is *incredibly* frustrating,
because not only do you not do the basic steps that are requested, you
also refuse to *explain* why you don't do them.  All we can ever do is
guess.

So anyway, here is my prescription for this particular problem.  These
are the steps you should follow.  They will require that you read and
understand them, and that you actually do them.

1) On the Debian system, while you are logged in as the user who cannot
   use sudo, open a terminal, and run the "id" command.

2) Look for (sudo) in the output.

3) If you see (sudo) in the output, this means your sudoers file is not
   the normal one for Debian.  Something has changed it.  You will have
   to figure out what has changed, and WHY it has changed, and fix it.
   In this case, STOP.  Do not proceed to step 4 or 5.

4) If you do NOT see (sudo), then you will want to add yourself to the
   sudo group.  To do this, you will need your username, which you have
   never revealed to us.  I will therefore have to write a template
   command in which you will have to FILL IN YOUR USERNAME.

   Open a root terminal (which you claim you can do) and run this
   command:

adduser YOURUSERNAME sudo

   But replace YOURUSERNAME with your Debian username.

5) If you added yourself to the sudo group, then you will need to logout
   of Debian and log back in to make it take effect.  After logging back
   in, run "id" and verify that you are now in the sudo group.

Once you are in the sudo group, you should be able to use sudo, unless
your /etc/sudoers file has been altered, or came from a non-Debian system.

If your /etc/sudoers file is not of Debian origin, then I personally
will refuse to try to help you fix it, because I don't believe you will
be able to follow my instructions correctly.  You will need help from
someone with whom you can communicate effectively.  This may mean you
need to go to a German-language Debian mailing list.  It may mean you
need in-person help from a local expert.  It may mean you have to hand
your entire computer over to a professional.  I don't know what you
need at this point.