On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 02:04:20AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
Hi Boyd,
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
I do believe a Free Software system should be as easy to use as MS
Windows for Joe Sixpack and Jane Boxwine. This might already
be the case; it is really hard for me to judge. I've
Hi,
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
...and evidently I like talking about myself. :(
All good, nice to hear your story, my PC life began in the TRS-80 days
at a local Tandy store in Melbourne AU. I was young then, but not as
young as you. Not going into my story right now, but I'm 44 now
On Ma, 01 mar 11, 05:15:36, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
There are examples besides OpenOffice. For example, we are eagerly
awaiting Iceweasel/Firefox 3.6 because the HTML5 support will finally
allow multiple attachments at once in Zimbra Web Client (if I understand
it correctly). PDF
On Wed, 2011-03-02 at 13:53 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Ma, 01 mar 11, 05:15:36, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
There are examples besides OpenOffice. For example, we are eagerly
awaiting Iceweasel/Firefox 3.6 because the HTML5 support will finally
allow multiple attachments at once in
Hi Boyd,
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
I do believe a Free Software system should be as easy to use as MS Windows for
Joe Sixpack and Jane Boxwine. This might already be the case; it is
really hard for me to judge. I've been programming since I was 5 and a fan of
UNIX and UNIX-like systems
On 2011-03-02 09:04:20 Andrew McGlashan wrote:
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
I do believe a Free Software system should be as easy to use as MS Windows
for Joe Sixpack and Jane Boxwine. This might already be the case; it
is really hard for me to judge. I've been programming since I was 5 and
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote:
I'm nearing 31, but I mostly still act 25. :P My first exposure to
UNIX-like
systems wasn't until my early teens, but I didn't really get to dive in
until
I was 18.
It still took me quite a while to move
2011/3/1 ow...@netptc.net:
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From: b...@iguanasuicide.net
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Best and most popular distros for the enterprise desktop
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:48:36 -0600
On Monday 28 February 2011 13:47:23 Jason Hsu wrote:
For those
On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 11:23 +0200, Eero Volotinen wrote:
snip
UBuntu lts is now very attractive to desktops, because of long support
and it is also possible to buy support from canonical.
snip
That's what we first thought but it may not be what you expect. We
assumed that LTS meant that
2011/3/1 John A. Sullivan III jsulli...@opensourcedevel.com:
On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 11:23 +0200, Eero Volotinen wrote:
snip
UBuntu lts is now very attractive to desktops, because of long support
and it is also possible to buy support from canonical.
snip
That's what we first thought but it
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 11:32, John A. Sullivan III
jsulli...@opensourcedevel.com wrote:
On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 11:23 +0200, Eero Volotinen wrote:
That's what we first thought but it may not be what you expect. We
assumed that LTS meant that applications would be refreshed to the
latest
On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 11:34 +0200, Eero Volotinen wrote:
2011/3/1 John A. Sullivan III jsulli...@opensourcedevel.com:
On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 11:23 +0200, Eero Volotinen wrote:
snip
UBuntu lts is now very attractive to desktops, because of long support
and it is also possible to buy support
2011/3/1 John A. Sullivan III jsulli...@opensourcedevel.com:
On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 11:34 +0200, Eero Volotinen wrote:
2011/3/1 John A. Sullivan III jsulli...@opensourcedevel.com:
On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 11:23 +0200, Eero Volotinen wrote:
snip
UBuntu lts is now very attractive to desktops,
On 03/01/2011 03:32 AM, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 11:23 +0200, Eero Volotinen wrote:
snip
UBuntu lts is now very attractive to desktops, because of long support
and it is also possible to buy support from canonical.
snip
That's what we first thought but it may not be
On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 11:57 +0200, Eero Volotinen wrote:
2011/3/1 John A. Sullivan III jsulli...@opensourcedevel.com:
On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 11:34 +0200, Eero Volotinen wrote:
2011/3/1 John A. Sullivan III jsulli...@opensourcedevel.com:
On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 11:23 +0200, Eero Volotinen
The problem with Ubuntu is it's the half-baked answer to a question that nobody
was asking in the first place...
The BIG Complaint: because Debian supports So many hardware platforms their
release cycles are too slow.
So they come up with the system of releasing LTS's about every two
In AANLkTi=qtcP=PTC1pHAd9ZFPEZ1GJeHhc-=8_o8bu...@mail.gmail.com, Eero
Volotinen wrote:
UBuntu lts is now very attractive to desktops, because of long support
and it is also possible to buy support from canonical.
An Ubuntu LTS gets 3 years of support on desktops. Etch had longer support.
In 1298971940.24313.59.ca...@denise.theartistscloset.com, John A. Sullivan
III wrote:
On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 11:23 +0200, Eero Volotinen wrote:
UBuntu lts is now very attractive to desktops, because of long support
and it is also possible to buy support from canonical.
That's what we first
In 1826992189-1298976361-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-511436955-
@bda023.bisx.prod.on.blackberry, teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net wrote:
The problem with Ubuntu is [...]
snip: big ol' rant
You clearly have issues with Ubuntu and are willing to abuse facts to make
them look bad. LTS
On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 10:46:00AM +, teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net wrote:
The BIG Complaint: because Debian supports So many hardware platforms
their release cycles are too slow.
Just a minor correction. The number of hardware platforms supported has a
minor impact on the length
In 4d6cc452.8040...@cox.net, Ron Johnson wrote:
That's even better than Debian Stable, which only fixes *security* bugs.
Check release.d.o, again. Stable (and Oldstable) are updates with important
bug fixes AND security updates. This is generally interpreted that RC bugs
affecting
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 10:46:00 +
teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net wrote:
The fact is any N00b would be better starting off with Mint, it's stable,
quick with media centric desktop users needs, and the user would be learning
linux the RIGHT way, not the we're gonna change this or that from the
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 5:46 AM, teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net wrote:
The problem with Ubuntu is it's the half-baked answer to a question that
nobody was
asking in the first place...
Given its success, it must be fulfilling a need/demand!
So they come up with the system of releasing LTS's
Jason Hsu said:
Linux Mint is derived from Ubuntu, so I don't know how you can pan Ubuntu but
praise Mint. No distro can be good at everything, but there's no denying the
impact of Ubuntu. It has moved the Overton Window in the Windows-vs.-Linux
shift.
Technically, Linux Mint has
On Mar 1, 2011 2:29 PM, teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net wrote:
Jason Hsu said:
Linux Mint is derived from Ubuntu, so I don't know how you can pan Ubuntu
but praise Mint. No distro can be good at everything, but there's no
denying the impact of Ubuntu. It has moved the Overton Window in the
On 2011-03-01 13:28:43 teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net wrote:
On an alternate point, I don't believe in ubuntu's bug number 1 mentality.
I don't believe all windows users should be converted, if they are to lazy
to learn basic administration leave them on windows, don't dilute the linux
gene pool.
On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 10:56:14AM EST, Jason Hsu wrote:
[..]
Linux Mint is derived from Ubuntu..
http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1604
cj
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Are there any rankings of the most popular Linux distros for the enterprise
desktop? My guess is that the most popular enterprise desktop distros are
Ubuntu, RedHat, and SUSE.
What features/characteristics are needed for an enterprise desktop computer
that aren't needed for a home desktop
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Jason Hsu jhsu802...@jasonhsu.com wrote:
Are there any rankings of the most popular Linux distros for the enterprise
desktop? My guess is that the most popular enterprise desktop distros are
Ubuntu, RedHat, and SUSE.
http://distrowatch.com/ is probably what
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:56:07 -0500
Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote:
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Jason Hsu jhsu802...@jasonhsu.com
wrote:
Are there any rankings of the most popular Linux distros for the
enterprise desktop? My guess is that the most popular enterprise
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 21:47, Jason Hsu jhsu802...@jasonhsu.com wrote:
Are there any rankings of the most popular Linux distros for the enterprise
desktop? My guess is that the most popular enterprise desktop distros are
Ubuntu, RedHat, and SUSE.
What features/characteristics are needed
On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 22:34 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 21:47, Jason Hsu jhsu802...@jasonhsu.com wrote:
Are there any rankings of the most popular Linux distros for the enterprise
desktop? My guess is that the most popular enterprise desktop distros are
Ubuntu,
On Monday 28 February 2011 20:47:23 Jason Hsu wrote:
Are there any rankings of the most popular Linux distros for the enterprise
desktop? My guess is that the most popular enterprise desktop distros are
Ubuntu, RedHat, and SUSE.
Maybe one of us should go and replace you whenyou go for your
On Monday 28 February 2011 13:47:23 Jason Hsu wrote:
For those of you who have helped a company or organization migrate from
Windows to Linux or from one Linux distro to another, what is your
preference?
The only time I've been involved in such a project it was from a hetrogenous
Dotan Cohen wrote:
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 21:47, Jason Hsujhsu802...@jasonhsu.com wrote:
Are there any rankings of the most popular Linux distros for the enterprise
desktop? My guess is that the most popular enterprise desktop distros are
Ubuntu, RedHat, and SUSE.
This is easy:
On Monday 28 February 2011 14:42:41 John A. Sullivan III wrote:
That is ultimately what led us to Debian. It has been our first major
experience with Debian and we have been quite pleased with it as the
best balance for a desktop OS thus far when we combine stable,
backports, and occasional
On Feb 28, 2011 3:35 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 21:47, Jason Hsu jhsu802...@jasonhsu.com wrote:
Are there any rankings of the most popular Linux distros for the
enterprise desktop? My guess is that the most popular enterprise desktop
distros are
On 02/28/2011 12:47 PM, Jason Hsu wrote:
Are there any rankings of the most popular Linux distros for the enterprise
desktop? My guess is that the most popular enterprise desktop distros are
Ubuntu, RedHat, and SUSE.
What features/characteristics are needed for an enterprise desktop
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 22:42, John A. Sullivan III
jsulli...@opensourcedevel.com wrote:
I've been following this with interest as we are about to deploy what we
hope will be very many enterprise desktops. We had originally planned
on Ubuntu until we realized their understanding of long term
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 23:27, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote:
So, even though I think I smell dog shit on the bottom of my shoes every
time I type rpm or yum, I will still recommend them for corporate use just
because I know support will be there if I'm not.
What?!? yum is great. What
Ps - as much as I dislike redhat, sles takes the cake for the worst
corporate *nix imo.
What don't you like about SLES?
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Subject: Re: Best and most popular distros for the enterprise desktop
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:48:36 -0600
On Monday 28 February 2011 13:47:23 Jason Hsu wrote:
For those of you who have helped a company
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