Re: Installation CDs for potato (Debian 2.2)
Am 2006-01-23 09:04:42, schrieb Hodgins Family: Hey Michelle! This site might prove useful: http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-cd/images I know it and currently I am trying to download Potato (r7)... After this I will try Slink (2.1r4 unfortunatly not r5). And then there are not all architectures... :-( Rob Greetings Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/3/8845235667100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation CDs for potato (Debian 2.2)
Hey Michelle! I am creating a TByte Archive Server of Debian and I am searching for older Official Debian-CD-Images. Generaly I am looking for 2.2.r7 but yours 2.2r5 are better ethen nothing. snip I am interested in a full copy of it (any architektures) but only official Debian CD-Images. I can pay you via PayPal if you want (need to rechare my account for that). This site might prove useful: http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-cd/images Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation CDs for potato (Debian 2.2)
Hello Paul, I am creating a TByte Archive Server of Debian and I am searching for older Official Debian-CD-Images. Generaly I am looking for 2.2.r7 but yours 2.2r5 are better ethen nothing. Do you have the binarys only or with sources? I am interested in a full copy of it (any architektures) but only official Debian CD-Images. I can pay you via PayPal if you want (need to rechare my account for that). Oh yes, 1.3 (Bo), 2.0 (Hamm) and 2.1 (Slink) are welcome too. Greetings Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant Am 2006-01-10 22:13:21, schrieb Paul E Condon: I have in my library a set of install CDs for Debian 2.2 r5 Potato. They contain kernel-image-2.0.38 and kernel-image-2.2.19 . Someone with a longer memory than mine might remember which was the default install kernel. I suspect 2.0.38 was default. So what does OP really need? Probably, as he says: he needs Debian 2.2 and he needs to check with his software supplier about which kernel version 2.0.38 or 2.2.19 he should install to run his tests. If all else fails, I can (snail) mail the CDs from Colorado, USA. - END OF REPLYED MESSAGE - -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/3/8845235667100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation CDs for potato (Debian 2.2)
Good morning! J.Moore wrote: I need to do an install of Debian 2.2 (potato) to do some maintenance on an old application. The author claims it will only run on the 2.2 kernel, and I want to eliminate as many variables as possible. I finally located the 2.2 distro on archives.debian.org, but have not been able to find the installation cd iso's. The documentation I found for installing 2.2 says they exist, but they don't seem to be anywhere in the archive. Try here: http://debian.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-cd/images/2.2_r7/i386/ Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation CDs for potato (Debian 2.2)
J.Moore wrote: I need to do an install of Debian 2.2 (potato) to do some maintenance on an old application. The author claims it will only run on the 2.2 kernel, and I want to eliminate as many variables as possible. Potato installs kernel 2.0 by default, Woody might be what you're after. It installs kernel 2.2 by default and unlike Potato has repository (oldstable or Woody) and security support for the time being. View this message in context: Re: Installation CDs for potato (Debian 2.2) Sent from the Debian User forum at Nabble.com.
Re: Installation CDs for potato (Debian 2.2)
On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 03:38 -0700, Hodgins Family wrote: Good morning! J.Moore wrote: I need to do an install of Debian 2.2 (potato) to do some maintenance on an old application. The author claims it will only run on the 2.2 kernel, and I want to eliminate as many variables as possible. I finally located the 2.2 distro on archives.debian.org, but have not been able to find the installation cd iso's. The documentation I found for installing 2.2 says they exist, but they don't seem to be anywhere in the archive. Try here: http://debian.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-cd/images/2.2_r7/i386/ I believe this is *exactly* what I needed, Rob - many thanks! Best Rgds, Jay -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation CDs for potato (Debian 2.2)
On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 22:13 -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: I need to do an install of Debian 2.2 (potato) to do some maintenance on an old application. The author claims it will only run on the 2.2 kernel, and I want to eliminate as many variables as possible. You need a 2.2 kernel, not a distribution with that version number. Either find a 2.2 kernel package in RedHat/Fedora, or download and build one from www.kernel.org It's my understanding that what is required is potato (which was Debian 2.2 if I understand all I've read) with the Linux 2.2 kernel. I have in my library a set of install CDs for Debian 2.2 r5 Potato. They contain kernel-image-2.0.38 and kernel-image-2.2.19 . Someone with a longer memory than mine might remember which was the default install kernel. I suspect 2.0.38 was default. So what does OP really need? Probably, as he says: he needs Debian 2.2 and he needs to check with his software supplier about which kernel version 2.0.38 or 2.2.19 he should install to run his tests. If all else fails, I can (snail) mail the CDs from Colorado, USA. Thanks for your generous offer, Paul. I believe I now have a line on a site where the oldies are still available for download (see subsequent post). I'll be in touch if this doesn't work out :) I'm *still* confused about the files at the 'archive.debian.org' site... wonder why they don't have the .iso's?? Best Rgds, Jay -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installation CDs for potato (Debian 2.2)
I need to do an install of Debian 2.2 (potato) to do some maintenance on an old application. The author claims it will only run on the 2.2 kernel, and I want to eliminate as many variables as possible. I finally located the 2.2 distro on archives.debian.org, but have not been able to find the installation cd iso's. The documentation I found for installing 2.2 says they exist, but they don't seem to be anywhere in the archive. I've never run or installed Debian before (Red Hat Fedora user for several years), so perhaps I've overlooked something obvious. Please excuse my ignorance, but I'd appreciate it if someone could give me a clue. Thanks, Jay -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation CDs for potato (Debian 2.2)
J.Moore wrote: I need to do an install of Debian 2.2 (potato) to do some maintenance on an old application. The author claims it will only run on the 2.2 kernel, and I want to eliminate as many variables as possible. You need a 2.2 kernel, not a distribution with that version number. Either find a 2.2 kernel package in RedHat/Fedora, or download and build one from www.kernel.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation CDs for potato (Debian 2.2)
If I'm not mistaken, Debian 3.0 (Woody) used 2.2.20 (according to http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=debian). I located a list of mirrors at: http://iso.linuxquestions.org/version.php?version=14 Also, some of the CD vendors listed at http://www.us.debian.org/CD/vendors/ allow you to request specific versions. Good luck -Steve On Tuesday 10 January 2006 06:42 pm, J.Moore wrote: I need to do an install of Debian 2.2 (potato) to do some maintenance on an old application. The author claims it will only run on the 2.2 kernel, and I want to eliminate as many variables as possible. I finally located the 2.2 distro on archives.debian.org, but have not been able to find the installation cd iso's. The documentation I found for installing 2.2 says they exist, but they don't seem to be anywhere in the archive. I've never run or installed Debian before (Red Hat Fedora user for several years), so perhaps I've overlooked something obvious. Please excuse my ignorance, but I'd appreciate it if someone could give me a clue. Thanks, Jay -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation CDs for potato (Debian 2.2)
On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 01:23:51AM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote: J.Moore wrote: I need to do an install of Debian 2.2 (potato) to do some maintenance on an old application. The author claims it will only run on the 2.2 kernel, and I want to eliminate as many variables as possible. You need a 2.2 kernel, not a distribution with that version number. Either find a 2.2 kernel package in RedHat/Fedora, or download and build one from www.kernel.org I have in my library a set of install CDs for Debian 2.2 r5 Potato. They contain kernel-image-2.0.38 and kernel-image-2.2.19 . Someone with a longer memory than mine might remember which was the default install kernel. I suspect 2.0.38 was default. So what does OP really need? Probably, as he says: he needs Debian 2.2 and he needs to check with his software supplier about which kernel version 2.0.38 or 2.2.19 he should install to run his tests. If all else fails, I can (snail) mail the CDs from Colorado, USA. -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Instalar o Debian 3.1.2 e Gnome no Debian 2.2
Fala pessoal, estou com o seguinte problema, naum consigo instalar o gnome 2.2 e o kde 3.1.2, alguém poderia me fornecer o endereço ou um material passo a passo. Eu instalei o Debian 3.0r , com o kde e gnome padrão só que naum consigo atualizar , da um porrado de erro de dependências. Depois instalei sem o X soh q tb estou tendo problemas, alguem conseguiu atualizar , se sim quais os servidores que estão utilizando? Pois os q tenho diz q esta faltando pacotes... etc... Se puderem me mandem em private o sources.list com os endereços de onde conseguiram instalar. Desde já muito obrigado Wanderson
Re: Instalar o Debian 3.1.2 e Gnome no Debian 2.2
Em 20 Jun 2003 18:17:35 -0300 Wanderson X. de Siqueira [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Fala pessoal, estou com o seguinte problema, naum consigo instalar o gnome 2.2 e o kde 3.1.2, alguém poderia me fornecer o endereço ou um material passo a passo. Eu instalei o Debian 3.0r , com o kde e gnome padrão só que naum consigo atualizar , da um porrado de erro de dependências. Depois instalei sem o X soh q tb estou tendo problemas, alguem conseguiu atualizar , se sim quais os servidores que estão utilizando? Pois os q tenho diz q esta faltando pacotes... etc... Se puderem me mandem em private o sources.list com os endereços de onde conseguiram instalar. Desde já muito obrigado Wanderson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanderson, O KDE 3.1.2 e o Gnome 2.2 só estão disponíveis com X = 4.2. Esses três só são encontrados só são encontrados no SID (Still in Development), o Debian Instável, ou em backports feito por outras pessoas. Para o KDE 3.1.2, coloque o seguinte em /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://www.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/kde/stable/3.0.5/Debian/woody/ ./ Para o Gnome 2.2, entre em people.debian.org/~walters e siga as instruções. Depois disso é só dar um apt-get update e um apt-get dist-upgrade que tudo se resolve. Espero ter ajudado. []s! -- Guilherme de S. Pastore [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp8wXuhtk01r.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Where to find Debian 2.2/2.4?
On Wednesday, February 19, 2003 18:13, Dieter Schoppitsch wrote: I wonder where to find Debian 2.2 and 2.4. On archive.debian.org I only found Debian up to 2.1. The past few Debian releases have been: 2.1 - slink 2.2 - potato 3.0 - woody thus there was no Debian 2.4. See the Brief History of Debian [1] for more information. Debian 2.2 and greater can be obtained from the main section of your nearest Debian mirror. LINKS [1] http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ch-releases.html -- Michael Wardle Adacel Technologies -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where to find Debian 2.2/2.4?
Hi all, I wonder where to find Debian 2.2 and 2.4. On archive.debian.org I only found Debian up to 2.1. TIA Dieter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problema no upgrade: Potato Debian 2.2.r2 p/ Woody Debian 3.0.r0
Olá pessoal! Estou tendo problemas na tentativa do Upgrade de meu Debian 2.2 para 3.0 (Potato-Woody). Primeiramente adicionei os CDs no source.list para atualizar os pacotes: apt-get update Em seguida, para atualizar a distro: apt-get dist-upgrade Tive o retorno do erro: E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration Alguém já passou por isso? Como resolver? Desde já agradeço. []s --Anderson Roberto Grella Linux Registered User #152832Debian GNU/Linux User
[Fwd: Survey on the use of Debian 2.2 (potato)] - Re: Jajko na serwer.
Z tego co widzę to nie wszyscy dostali coś takiego jak ja więc przesyłam na listę. Wiadomość oryginalna Debian Security Survey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/security/ Martin Schulze November 2nd, 2002http://www.debian.org/security/faq I'd like to gather some information about what users and organisations think about and expect from the Debian Security Team, hence, this survey. Naturally, the Debian Security Team cannot support potato security endlessly. Therefore, we need to determine when we may stop providing security updates for potato. We do acknowledge that several organisations could not upgrade all of their potato (Debian 2.2) systems to woody (Debian 3.0) immediately after woody was released. However, since potato contains old software and woody has improved and more evolved versions of software packages, everybody still running potato system should consider upgrading to woody soon. Also, woody probably contains more security updates than potato. I would like to ask corporations that still use potato systems (please note that woody was released about three months ago) how long they plan to wait for the upgrade and how long they would like the Debian Security Team to support potato security. One of the reasons that the Debian project works so hard on providing working upgrades is so that our users do not need to run outdated software just to get stability. If you are an organisation still running potato, please answer the following questions: 1. How long do you plan to wait before you upgrade your potato machines to woody? 2. How long would you like to see the Debian Security Team support potato security? 3. How many potato machines do you still run in production? Please send your replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm going to publish the results of the survey which will probably affect future work of the Debian Security Team as well, but I will not name the organisations that replied to this survey, hence, anonymity is granted. Thanks in advance, Joey also Debian Security Officer PS: Forwarding this article to other media like LWN or Slashdot etc. is highly appreciated. -- http://www.miki.z.pl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gadu-gadu: 2128279 Mobile: +48607345846 Can you hear me, can you hear me thro' the dark night, far away... file:///tmp/nsmail.tmp Description: PGP signature
Re: Chip Debian 2.2
* Saitov Menuhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [08.10.02 18:21]: Mein problem war damals und heute ist. bei Kword wenn ich auf Drucken gehe.ist der Schalter O.K. grau. Könnte an nicht bzw. teilweise installierten Paketen oder nicht aufgelösten Abhängigkeiten liegen - zumindest wurde so etwas AFAIK ein paar Mal berichtet. Sonst ist die Installation erfolgreich was ncoch nicht funkzt ist der Scanner USB Mustek 1200 UB. Liegt evtl. am Kernel. USB geht mehr oder minder ab Kernel 2.2.18, richtig erst ab 2.4.x. Die CHIP hat zwei Debian-Hefte gemacht. Das letztere hatte auf den CDs den Kernel 2.2.19pre9. Weitere Infos zu USB findest Du hier: http://www.linux-usb.org/ HTH, Thomas -- Thomas Hümmler * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.huemmler.de -- Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: Chip Debian 2.2
Markus Kolb wrote: Das sind zu wenig Informationen. Ausserdem schreibe besser zu jedem Problem eine eigene Nachricht. Willst Du noch Potatoe (2.2) installieren? Ich nehme an, dass eine Lösung entfällt, weil Du ja nun Woody installiert hast. Als ersten Ansatz machst Du am besten zunächst ein Update der installierten Pakete über Internet (Stichwörter: apt-get update und /etc/apt/sources.list) Sollte es dann noch immer nicht gehen, dann schreibe nocheinmal eine detailierte Fehlerbeschreibung mit Logfileauszügen (/var/log/...) USB Mustek 1200 UB: Man sollte dazu genügend im Internet finden. http://www.google.de und http://groups.google.de Sound: Welche Soundkarte hast Du denn? Wir können das nicht alles für Dich machen, aber wir geben unser Bestes Dich zu unterstützen. Die Arbeit musst Du Dir aber selbst machen. Evt. kommst Du auch schneller zu einem funktionierenden Linux, wenn Du Dir ein Buch zulegst oder eine vollständige Distribution kaufst, bei der z.B. 60 Tage Installations Support dabei sind. Dort kannst Du verlangen, dass sie Dich Schritt für Schritt am Telefon durch die Installation führen. Über Mailingliste ist das kaum möglich. cu Hallo, Ich entschuldige mich für die blöde Frage aber in dieser Liste gelesen das auch unter Debian User Windows benutzer dabei sind. ich bin keiner!!! Also Woody habe ich deinstaliert weil der KDE nicht gestartet hat von auch immer welche Gründe!Und der kernel von Woody hatte auch keine Sound module also wie sollte ich die Soundkarte einrichten. ich weiss für ALSA und OSS welche Treber (Modul) ich instalieren muss. ich verlange von mir SChritt wie ich machen muss nur sagen weshalb es passiert.Vieleicht passiert es auch bei anderen.z.B bei woody das es KDE nicht startet! Danke Trotzdem für den Feeback. Gruß Menuhin -- Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Re: Chip Debian 2.2
Am Don, 2002-10-10 um 13.27 schrieb Saitov Menuhin: Hallo, Hallo Menuhin, Ich entschuldige mich für die blöde Frage aber in dieser Liste gelesen das auch unter Debian User Windows benutzer dabei sind. ich bin keiner!!! Es gibt keine blöden Fragen. Ich verstehe Deinen Ärger, aber hier wird nicht geholfen, weil die Fragenden Windows benutz(t)en, sondern weil sie keinen anderen Weg haben, um ihr Linux einzurichten. Und kein anderer Weg heisst, dass sie sich _erst_ informiert haben, ob es irgendwo anders Hilfe bzw. Dokumentation zu ihrem Problem gibt und _dann_ hier nachfragen. ich verlange von mir SChritt wie ich machen muss nur sagen weshalb es passiert.Vieleicht passiert es auch bei anderen.z.B bei woody das es KDE nicht startet! Es kann passieren. Dann gibt es im Moment ein Linuxbuch, in dem man nachschauen kann. Allerdings schaut man zuerst unter KDE und dann vielleicht unter Logdateien oder bei Google oder bei KDE. Und dann erst stellt man hier die Frage. Dies ist nur solange ein Selbstbedienungsladen wie Du bedient wirst. Und alles was Du selbst erarbeitet hast, hilft Dir später. Windows scheint im Moment nur deshalb besser zu sein, weil es von Anfang an _irgendwie_ läuft. Ich habe selbst 4 Tage gebraucht, bis Windows so lief, daß ich AOE spielen konnte (sonst braucht man's nicht). Debian lief am Anfang schneller. Wenn Du keine Lust hast, Dich in Dein System hineinzuarbeiten und Dir eine gewissen Frustrationstoleranz fehlt, dann kann es sein, dass Du vielleicht bei Suse besser aufgehoben bist. Dort wird Dir alles einigermassen lauffähig installiert. Danke Trotzdem für den Feeback. Bitte. Gerne geschehen Gruß Menuhin Marc F. Neininger -- - Wer Rechtschreibfehler findet, der darf sie behalten - -- Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
Chip Debian 2.2
Hallo, Ich habe vor langer Zeit den obengennaten Heft von Chip gekauft. ich habe es damales geschaft zu instlieren. Mein problem war damals und heute ist. bei Kword wenn ich auf Drucken gehe.ist der Schalter O.K. grau. Sonst ist die Installation erfolgreich was ncoch nicht funkzt ist der Scanner USB Mustek 1200 UB. Als zweites In anderen Heft habe ich debian 3.0 Woody gekauft. meine frage ist nach der Installation wenn ich KDE wähle dann versucht KDE zu starten und der System friert ein. Gnome funkzt super. Auch der Sound konnte ich nicht einsteeln weil ich keine Sound module gefunden. Danke für die Mühe. gruß menuhin -- Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
debian 2.2 resoluçao 800x600 fontes enormes
Ola pessoal procurei assunto na lista sobre isso mas nao consegui encontrar nada a respeito , meu problema e o seguinte.. tenho o debian 2.2 com placa de video trident 9680 1 mb ,quando ajusto o modo de resoluçao acima de de 800x600 as imagens ficam grandes demais resoluçoes maiores as imagens tanbem ficam maiores, consegui um ajuste meia boca com 256 cores e 640x480 a partir dai qualquer opçao fica com fontes muito grandes, qual seria o problema???
Re: debian 2.2 resoluça o 800x600 fontes enormes
* meiaonda ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Ola pessoal procurei assunto na lista sobre isso mas nao consegui encontrar nada a respeito , meu problema e o seguinte.. tenho o debian 2.2 com placa de video trident 9680 1 mb ,quando ajusto o modo de resoluçao acima de de 800x600 as imagens ficam grandes demais resoluçoes maiores as imagens tanbem ficam maiores, consegui um ajuste meia boca com 256 cores e 640x480 a partir dai qualquer opçao fica com fontes muito grandes, qual seria o problema??? O X do 2.2 e o 3.6, use o XF86Setup para configurar o X. Tenho uma dessas e uso ela com 800x600 e 16 Bpp. []'s -- Marcio de Araujo Benedito - [EMAIL PROTECTED] GNU/Linux user 18636 (Debian, the best choice) Empresa de Informatica e Informacao do Municipio de Belo Horizonte - Prodabel S/A Projeto Internet Popular: http://www.pbh.gov.br/interpop It's no longer a question of staying healthy. It's a question of finding a sickness you like. -- Jackie Mason pgp3DDmVF94Ra.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: debian 2.2 resoluçao 800x600 fontes enormes
Ola pessoal procurei assunto na lista sobre isso mas nao consegui encontrar nada a respeito , meu problema e o seguinte.. tenho o debian 2.2 com placa de video trident 9680 1 mb ,quando ajusto o modo de resoluçao acima de de 800x600 as imagens ficam grandes demais resoluçoes maiores as imagens tanbem ficam maiores, consegui um ajuste meia boca com 256 cores e 640x480 a partir dai qualquer opçao fica com fontes muito grandes, qual seria o problema??? O X do 2.2 e o 3.6, use o XF86Setup para configurar o X. Tenho uma dessas e uso ela com 800x600 e 16 Bpp. Ok ja usei esta configuraçao e ai que fica com fontes enormes eu sempre uso para configurar o x o xf86config seria esse o probema??? - Original Message - From: Márcio de Araújo Benedito [EMAIL PROTECTED] debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 3:08 PM Subject: Re: debian 2.2 resoluçao 800x600 fontes enormes
Linux Debian 2.2
Mam kilka prosb dokladnie chodzi mi po trzy rzeczy: - jak zablokowac lub zmniejszyc aktywnosc kazza - jakie porty i jak zrobic przekierowanie lub cos innego by dzialal netmeeting (brak wisji i foni u mnie, uzytkownik z drogiej strony mnie widzi i slyszy) - czy macie dostep do konfiguracji debiana pod neostrade, neostrade+ lub DSL. z gory dzieki i pozdrawiam grupowiczow.
Re: Linux Debian 2.2
Witaj Adaśko, Tuesday, August 6, 2002, 4:50:14 PM, napisałeś: AA Mam kilka prosb dokladnie chodzi mi po trzy rzeczy: AA - jak zablokowac lub zmniejszyc aktywnosc kazza iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -i ppp0 -s 0/0 --sport 1214 -j DROP iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -i ppp0 -s 0/0 --dport 1214 -j DROP Pozdrawiam -- Howks IRCNet: #debian.pl #linux.pl #lgul [EMAIL PROTECTED] GG: 891244
Help with install of Debian 2.2.r6
Hello, I am trying to install Debian on a Dell Server machine. When i boot up with the bootable cd i get as far into the boot up procedure as loading the sym53c416.c module. Then the system halts and stays there. The system is SCSI and has a Adaptec 7899 card in it with two channels. I am using the first channel for the hard disk. The cd-rom is IDE. Has anyone had such a problem, i would really like to start the install of debian off! Also when i try to install Progeny's Debian on the server it installs fine! (no pauses or halts) can some help please? thanks in advance Regards Kamesh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with install of Debian 2.2.r6
On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 09:47:02AM +0100, Kamesh Patel wrote: Hello, I am trying to install Debian on a Dell Server machine. When i boot up with the bootable cd i get as far into the boot up procedure as loading the sym53c416.c module. Then the system halts and stays there. The system is SCSI and has a Adaptec 7899 card in it with two channels. I am using the first channel for the hard disk. The cd-rom is IDE. Has anyone had such a problem, i would really like to start the install of debian off! Also when i try to install Progeny's Debian on the server it installs fine! (no pauses or halts) can some help please? thanks in advance Regards Try the other boot kernels ide-pci, etc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with install of Debian 2.2.r6
On Monday 24 June 2002 01:47 am, Kamesh Patel wrote: Hello, I am trying to install Debian on a Dell Server machine. When i boot up with the bootable cd i get as far into the boot up procedure as loading the sym53c416.c module. Then the system halts and stays there. The system is SCSI and has a Adaptec 7899 card in it with two channels. I am using the first channel for the hard disk. The cd-rom is IDE. Has anyone had such a problem, i would really like to start the install of debian off! Also when i try to install Progeny's Debian on the server it installs fine! (no pauses or halts) can some help please? why not install the potato (progeny) version and then adjust your /etc/sources.list if you want to upgrade from there? ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Speedy na debian 2.2.r3 Potato
Olá,
Tenho uma placa SURECOM (desconhecida no linux), mas que vem com o driver
e o modulo e um passo a passo.
Essa placa não é desconhecida. Use o módulo 8139too ('modprobe
8139too')
1) Eu posso por qualquer IP aqui ${IPADDR}?
Depende do teu serviço de Internet. Se você usa Speedy, você
não deveria fazer nenhuma configuração; caso contrário, pergunte a
eles qual o seu IP e aproveite para perguntar qual a sua máscara de
sub-rede, endereço de broadcast, endereço de rede, gateway e DNS
primário e secundário.
Se você usar o Speedy, edite o arquivo /etc/network/interfaces
e coloque as seguinte linha nele:
iface eth0 inet dhcp
Se você usar IP fixo, coloque as seguintes linhas:
iface eth0 inet static
address 1.2.3.6 -- Seu IP
netmask 255.255.254.0 -- Máscara de sub-rede
broadcast 1.2.3.255 -- End. de broadcast
gateway 1.2.3.1 -- Gateway
network 1.2.3.0 -- End. de rede
E, ainda com IP fixo, edite o arquivo /etc/resolv.conf e
adicione as seguintes linhas:
nameserver 1.2.3.3 -- DNS primário
nameserver 1.2.3.4 -- DNS secundário
A ordem dessas linhas É importante!
2) O que eh ${BROADCAST} ?
O endereço de broadcast serve pro teu driver de rede saber
qual o último endereço da sua rede.
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Speedy na debian 2.2.r3 Potato
Ola Lista,
Tenho uma placa SURECOM (desconhecida no linux), mas que vem com o driver
e o modulo e um passo a passo.
Aqui esta o passo a passo da instalação da placa?
-
Installation:
1. copy the source code fealnx.c to Linux,
2. compile the source code, the instruction for compiling the driver is
as follows:
#gcc -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/net/inet -Wall
-Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c fealnx.c
3. insert the driver as module,
#insmod fealnx.o
4. bind your card to an IP address
#ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} broadcast ${BROADCAST} netmask ${NETMASK}
5. add your card to IP routing table,
#route add -net ${NETWORK} netmask ${NETMADK} eth0
6. now, you should be able to ping local network.
Perguntas:
1) Eu posso por qualquer IP aqui ${IPADDR}?
2) O que eh ${BROADCAST} ?
3) gcc avisa que a opcao -06 eh inválida! Porque?
4) eu tenho que mudar algum passo na debian? se estiver errado o que devo
fazer?
5) como configuro o pppoe?
modulo: fealnx.o
fonte: fealnx.c
Obrigado!
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install debian 2.2.x on ciryx166Mhz 32 MRam EDO???
Hello, I want install debian 2.2.1.3 on old computer mother board asus with Ciryx 166Mhz and 32MRam EDO. Perhaps this 32MRam EDO is not sufficient for this debian Help me please? __ Envoyez des messages musicaux sur le portable de vos amis http://mobile.lycos.fr/mobile/local/sms_musicaux/ __ Boîte aux lettres - Caramail - http://www.caramail.com
Re: install debian 2.2.x on ciryx166Mhz 32 MRam EDO???
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 17:49:00 GMT+1 bernard bertrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want install debian 2.2.1.3 on old computer mother board asus with Ciryx 166Mhz and 32MRam EDO. Perhaps this 32MRam EDO is not sufficient for this debian That would really depend on what you mean by sufficient. I have a 486SX 25MHz system with 16 Megs RAM running Woody right now. It works for what I ask it to do. I don't have XFree86 running on it (nor would I really attempt such a thing). But if you're asking whether the hardware can handle the OS, sure it can. If you can give us an idea of what you want to use the system for, I'm sure that someone here can provide you with a better estimate of what to expect. -- Jamin W. Collins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: install debian 2.2.x on ciryx166Mhz 32 MRam EDO???
On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 05:49:00PM +, bernard bertrand wrote: | Hello, | | I want install debian 2.2.1.3 | on old computer mother board asus with | Ciryx 166Mhz and 32MRam EDO. | Perhaps this 32MRam EDO is not sufficient | for this debian | Help me please? No problem. I've got debian on an Intel 486sx with 8MB FPM RAM. Sure, it thrashes a lot and is really only useful for routing, but it runs. (and apt-get doesn't die with mmap errors like the rh/rpm port does with 96MB EDO RAM) What do you intend to use this machine for? It will surely suffice for common console-based operation (familiarizing yourself with *nix, client-side email handling, web browsing, text editing). You could probably even manage to use LaTeX or even X, but stick with a lightweight windowing environment! HTH, -D -- Thy Word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path. Psalms 119:105 GnuPG key : http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/public_key.gpg pgpLwlBrXmogt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: install debian 2.2.x on ciryx166Mhz 32 MRam EDO???
Ciryx 166Mhz and 32MRam EDO. Perhaps this 32MRam EDO is not sufficient for this debian I've got a P75/24 Mo RAM running Debian, it runs a potato : X (with a smal window manager) is available, Netscape 4 is usable. It runs fine as a router, small web/mail/dns/dhcp server and for backups. Only a loaded PostgreSQL seems to be too much for him. -- Christophe Courtois - Strasbourg, France http://courtois.multimania.com - Clé PGP : 0F33E837 -- 101 manieres bizarres de commander une pizza par telephone : 73. Apprenez a jouer un riff de blues a l'harmonica. Interrompez-vous regulierement pour jouer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: install debian 2.2.x on ciryx166Mhz 32 MRam EDO???
bernard == bernard bertrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: bernard Hello, I want install debian 2.2.1.3 on old computer bernard mother board asus with Ciryx 166Mhz and 32MRam EDO. bernard Perhaps this 32MRam EDO is not sufficient for this bernard debian Help me please? I have Debian Woody on a 120 Mhz/48Mb Pentium system. It works fine as a basic Linux system, but it's not a great choice for building kernels or anything. What do you plan on doing with it? How much hard disk do you have? Last I checked it took a little under 250 Mb to install a basic system (nothing from tasksel). Cheers! Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anti-Aliasing bei debian 2.2
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Re: Anti-Aliasing bei debian 2.2
Moin Christian! Christian Weiß schrieb am Sunday, den 21. April 2002: Hat jemand einen Tip, wie man bei Debian 2.2 Anti-Aliasing einstellt bzw. wie man Problemlos auf eine neuere XFree86-Version umstellen kann ? RTF FAQ, und sag jetzt nicht, du hast denn Link noch nie gesehen. http://dugfaq.sylence.net/dug-faq/dug-faq.html Gruss/Regards, Eduard. -- [Microsoft wirbt:] Ein offenes Betriebssystem kann schon mal mutieren. Mutieren tun vor allem MS-proprietäre Dateiformate. -- Zum AUSTRAGEN schicken Sie eine Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] mit dem Subject unsubscribe. Probleme? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] (engl)
System-Native LDAP authentication client on Debian 2.2 ?
Hi, Please, could someone help me to find the response to the following qestion regarding LDAP ? Does Linux Debian 2.2 accepts a system-native LDAP authentication client ? The aim is to authenticate SUN Solaris and several Linux Distributions(especially Debian 2.2) stations with iPlanet Directory server. The authentication process must be based on the login/ password but also on the host the connexion comes from. Thanks very much in advance for your help and inputs. I'm not confident with Debian mailing-list. Perhaps should I have sent this request to other mailing lists ? Please feel free to tell me if it is the case. Best Regards, Arnaud -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: System-Native LDAP authentication client on Debian 2.2 ?
Hi, I think you should take a look at the Name Service Switch. + PAM.. It just seems that when LDAP is enabled, the system screws up while shuting down/rebooting... :-( it seems the authentication system refuses to allow the umount -a while shutting down As a result, my /usr is always badly umounted.. but the LDAP authentication works beautifully behind that ;-) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache show libnss-ldap Package: libnss-ldap Priority: extra Section: net Installed-Size: 143 Maintainer: Sami Haahtinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Architecture: i386 Version: 184-2 Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.4-4), libldap2 (= 2.0.23-1), debconf Recommends: nscd, libpam-ldap Filename: pool/main/libn/libnss-ldap/libnss-ldap_184-2_i386.deb Size: 64100 MD5sum: e50c9750c50dd0cb6d03de729885fb7b Description: NSS module for using LDAP as a naming service This package provides a Name Service Switch that allows your LDAP server act as a name service. This means providing user account information, group id's, host information, aliases, netgroups, and basically anything else that you would normally get from /etc flat files or NIS. . If used with glibc 2.1's nscd (Name Service Cache Daemon) it will help reduce your network traffic and speed up lookups for entries. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache show libpam-ldap Package: libpam-ldap Priority: extra Section: admin Installed-Size: 235 Maintainer: Sami Haahtinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Architecture: i386 Version: 140-1 Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.4-4), libldap2 (= 2.0.23-1), libpam0g (= 0.72-1), debconf (= 0.5) Suggests: libnss-ldap Filename: pool/main/libp/libpam-ldap/libpam-ldap_140-1_i386.deb Size: 44560 MD5sum: a9fbd6e1f0af409bbb7405b9310a396d Description: Pluggable Authentication Module allowing LDAP interfaces This module let's you use you LDAP server to authenticate users with programs that utilize PAM. If used along with libnss-ldap, you can replace your entire flat file (/etc/*) structure or NIS with LDAP. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache show nscd Package: nscd Priority: optional Section: admin Installed-Size: 105 Maintainer: Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Architecture: i386 Source: glibc Version: 2.2.5-4 Replaces: libc6 ( 2.1-4) Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.5-4) Filename: pool/main/g/glibc/nscd_2.2.5-4_i386.deb Size: 57786 MD5sum: 3ec9ed0ac91197edf0a3bd4a2c171d1b Description: GNU C Library: Name Service Cache Daemon A daemon which handles passwd, group and host lookups for running programs and caches the results for the next query. You should install this package only if you use slow Services like LDAP, NIS or NIS+ Good luck ! sam Hi, Please, could someone help me to find the response to the following qestion regarding LDAP ? Does Linux Debian 2.2 accepts a system-native LDAP authentication client ? The aim is to authenticate SUN Solaris and several Linux Distributions(especially Debian 2.2) stations with iPlanet Directory server. The authentication process must be based on the login/ password but also on the host the connexion comes from. Thanks very much in advance for your help and inputs. I'm not confident with Debian mailing-list. Perhaps should I have sent this request to other mailing lists ? Please feel free to tell me if it is the case. Best Regards, Arnaud -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: System-Native LDAP authentication client on Debian 2.2 ?
Hi, ade [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does Linux Debian 2.2 accepts a system-native LDAP authentication client ? The aim is to authenticate SUN Solaris and several Linux Distributions(especially Debian 2.2) stations with iPlanet Directory server. The authentication process must be based on the login/ password but also on the host the connexion comes from. For user authentication? There is the libpam_ldap which comes in the Potato distribution which should do what you want concerning the user/password pair; the README file that comes with the package mentions a host attribute. Here is the README file (as contained in /usr/share/doc/libpam-ldap): __BEGIN__ This is yet another pam_ldap module. The advantages of this particular version are: o Support for changing passwords in LDAP o Support for the V3 client API and protocol (to minimize rebinds) o Support for Netscape's SSL API (untested as of yet) o Compatibility with the nss_ldap configuration file format o Supports ypldapd LDAP locator for plug-and-play installation o Supports Netscape Directory Server password policies and password expiration controls o Supports access authorization on the host attribute of the account objectclass, and on group membership o Supports generating crypted hashes locally for use with OpenLDAP and other University of Michigan derived LDAP servers o Bundled with Debian (Potato) and RedHat (Rawhide) distributions. The module builds under both Linux 2.x and Solaris 2.6. Thanks to fellow Aussie Chris Albone who wrote the initial pam_ldap_auth module. I've tested this with Netscape Directory Server 3.1 under NT and Solaris, the University of Michigan LDAP server, and Microsoft's Exchange Server. pam_ldap is only secure if used with a secure SASL mechanism (like CRAM-MD5) or with transport security (like SSL/TLS). With simple authentication, it is less secure than using UNIX hashed passwords, because the LDAP bind request sends the password in the clear. Here are some possible deployment scenarios: o pam_ldap with account information in /etc flat files, kept manually in sync with LDAP o pam_ldap with account information in LDAP, using nss_ldap o pam_ldap with account information in NIS, using ypldapd Don't forget to ensure that pam_ldap's link dependencies are satisfied after installation (you can verify this by doing ldd /usr/lib/security/pam_ldap.so.1). You must ensure that any libraries that it depends on (such as the LDAP client library) can be located by the dynamic linker. Otherwise, libpam may fail to load the pam_ldap module. FAQ: Where is ldap_ssl.h? It's in the Netscape LDAP C SDK. Download it from developer.netscape.com. If you don't want to use SSL, removed -DSSL from CFLAGS. I don't have any experience building with the SSL/TLS support in OpenLDAP. To discuss pam_ldap and related technologies, you may subscribe to the following mailing list: URL:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send an electronic mail message with subscribe in the message body to join the list. Note that PADL now offer commercial support on a per-incident basis. -- [ PADL Software Pty Ltd ] Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://www.padl.com __END__ It appears to me that yes it can do it. Elizabeth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KDE packagé pour Debian 2.2
quelqu'un a-t-il une idée d'URL de la dernière version stable de KDE pour une version 2.2R5 DEBIAN Merci Philippe LEBRETON -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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LEBRETON Philippe wrote: quelqu'un a-t-il une idée d'URL de la dernière version stable de KDE pour une version 2.2R5 DEBIAN Merci Philippe LEBRETON Salut, essaie : http://www.linuxiso.org/debian.html __ ifrance.com, l'email gratuit le plus complet de l'Internet ! vos emails depuis un navigateur, en POP3, sur Minitel, sur le WAP... http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/email.emailif -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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TuxOS (was Installation notes - Debian 2.2)
Peter Whysall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 2002-03-22: Symlinking /dev/mouse to /dev/psaux wouldn't hurt THAT much, would it? One wonders if hardware detection ought to be a separate matter, whereupon the hardware detection routines (on a dedicated floppy diskette) write system hardware configuration to an XML file, which is then used later to cross-check that symlinks such as you mention, plus other matters, are actually correct, or to ask a remote server to analyze it and prepare a custom kernel plus a package set (Debian, TuxOS) to be burned to ISO just for that machine and set of add-on cards (hardware detection routine also asks about wanted functionality and the easily-seen peripherals such as printer and USB keyboard). This practice would allow a commercial opportunity for companies to make a little money offering such customized ISO sets, which would in turn stoke interest in Linux (especially with extreme attention to making sure all hardware was supported up front in advance, with no terrifying arcane fiddliness with the command line and poorly documented hardware-support modules and not even Midnight Commander). It could be a two-floppy boot and root system with ability to write to separate FAT floppy diskette such data for all try hard installations with any available tools (Linux, Windows, DOS, whatever) meant specifically to break the nasty Microsoft habit of brutal monopolisation of the master boot record (and tricks in partition table) to make it on purpose hard to install dual-boot competing and much better operating systems such as IBM OS/2 Warp or Debian or (*cough*) TuxOS (see below). There could even be a minor Jolt'n'pizza money industry of doing rigorous hardware evaluations in which weird BIOS settings are fixed with the special toolkits and oddball hardware is noted that would otherwise would escape the detection routines and a box is even opened up physically as necessary for the owner to get from the Linux nerd a paper on which is written all important such information plus a floppy diskette (with two backups for safety) with same such information to be used over the Internet or at a local computer shop for custom compilation of kernel and package assemblage or from Linux installfest for free and no need to unplug everything and yank around hardware which most people will not do out of fear of breaking something or because they already have this Windows something on their computers and they don't wanna be bothered with all that complicated nasty Linux stuff if it's so much work. (Accurate hardware detection and adaptation theretofore by the installation, clean boot handling for dual-boot and partition resizing (including automatic outside third-party defragmentation of existing partitions), clear unambiguous functionality for a total newbie (not too much, not too few programs, and all are available both on desktop with nice icons and in cleanly organized menus), are part of requirements for success for Linux against well-trenchcoated Windows with allegedly embedded MSIE like alien sucking on face and included utilities that formerly were thriving third-party companies (anyone remember those Microsoft buyouts and little-company bankruptcies from yesteryear)). Networking configuration. Or the complete and utter absence thereof. For a distro that wants to install off the internet, not detecting, configuring and using an absolutely bog-standard 3Com 3C590 10MBit card is a bit heinous. I had to edit /etc/network/interfaces myself, and the card never did get its module loaded automatically and interface started until I had created a 2.4.18 kernel package. When this was installed, it all Just Worked. I entirely agree, and would like to add this to the TuxOS distribution I'm now laboriously building from a carefully selected subset of the excellent but more general Debian distribution (Woody and bits of Sid) (it's a long story, talk more about it later when a minimalized but still internationalised full-set is ready). (BTW, to anyone else reading this, it's been impossible to get the attention of the people at [iBiblio]. Where can a set of ISO's be mirrored? [SourceForge]? I have already reserved the domain name [http://www.tuxos.org/]). [http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/] [http://sourceforge.net/] As I've pointed out to Karsten (and others) in the past, FreeBSD has this down pat - two floppies and you're away - in stark contrast to the 13-17 floppies you need for Debian, and networking config is a solved problem. OK, FreeBSD sucks rocks once it's installed, but you get the idea :) One wonders if a two-floppy set of this FreeBSD could be used with a custom program to instead install Debian Woody onto the hard drive over the network. I'm not fussy myself about tools as long as they are good with which to begin. Would the FreeBSD people blow a gasket? If this said, Installation brought to you courtesy of FreeBSD. with a full set of links
apt-get and debian 2.2
Now that 2.2 is out, should we be changing our apt-get lines if we have been running the testing version? I don't quite yet want to run sid.
Re: apt-get and debian 2.2
On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 09:04:17AM -0600, Cheryl Homiak wrote: Now that 2.2 is out, should we be changing our apt-get lines if we have been running the testing version? I don't quite yet want to run sid. 2.2 has been out for over a year and a half. I doubt you need to change anything if it's been working recently. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installation notes - Debian 2.2
[Now that I'm subscribed on d-u, I'm reposting this as I'd really like feedback that I can reply to - I might have made some bonehead remarks here :-)] I've installed Debian. Rescue + root, plus the base2_2.tgz on a CD. Not once, but twice. On the laptop, and on the desktop machine - and I'm considering it for the HP9000, too. And you know what? I like it. A lot. However. All was not plain sailing. Here's what went wrong during the desktop install (installs of any OS on that particular box (Acer TravelMate 508DX) are just plain weird, so I didn't count any of that stuff :)) 1. XFree86 installation/configuration. This is just plain broke. After switching from stable to testing and apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade-ing, I did apt-get install x-window-system. Cool beans, all the packages did verily appear (have I mentioned that I love broadband?). Ran xf86config, answered all the questions. Run startx. Error. No screens. WTF? Check /etc/X11/XF86Config. Have blinding flash of inspiration and swap this file with /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. Works. OK, it's WindowMaker, which I detest, but I can point, click and drool. No mouse. I can't point. Clicking and drooling lost its appeal fairly quickly :-) Symlinking /dev/mouse to /dev/psaux wouldn't hurt THAT much, would it? Networking configuration. Or the complete and utter absence thereof. For a distro that wants to install off the internet, not detecting, configuring and using an absolutely bog-standard 3Com 3C590 10MBit card is a bit heinous. I had to edit /etc/network/interfaces myself, and the card never did get its module loaded automatically and interface started until I had created a 2.4.18 kernel package. When this was installed, it all Just Worked. As I've pointed out to Karsten (and others) in the past, FreeBSD has this down pat - two floppies and you're away - in stark contrast to the 13-17 floppies you need for Debian, and networking config is a solved problem. OK, FreeBSD sucks rocks once it's installed, but you get the idea :) Sound? Well, I've got the best sound card that never ruled the world - the Aureal SonicVortex2, based on the AU8830 chipset. As Creative Labs bought Aureal to save their blushes (Aureal's A3D surround sound kicked Creative's EAX all over the shop, and Aureal had the misfortune to go bust at the wrong time) and promptly killed it, the drivers are in legal limbo. However, http://www.braincells.com/debian/sid/au88xx/ to the rescue! Apart from a totally horked genchanges.sh script (pgp shenanigans), this worked fine and didn't mean I had to step outside the packaging system to get this going. Slight problems - the module doesn't get loaded at boot time and /dev/mixer and /dev/dsp had 0660 permissions, which meant mere mortals couldn't access them. Other random thoughts: Some wrapper script to jiggle /etc/apt/sources.list to enable easy switching between testing and stable, and also mirror selection. ftp.uk.debian.org started going hella slow last night at about 8PM, and switching to ftp.de.debian.org fixed it - but I had to edit the file to make this happen. Hell, *I* might write this :) There needs to be apt tasks for GNOME and KDE. If there are, I can't see them. Not that I want to install KDE, mind, but a simple method of zapping it when I find it would be nice :) Aptitude and apt-utils should be part of the base install. Too useful not to have. Perl whined about locales (I use en_GB) until I ran the locale configurator thing - this should have been part of the post-first-boot config. xinetd should be the default rather than plain inetd. I scored a big win when I chose to use ext3 on my old Red Hat install rather than Reiser, as it meant the relatively vanilla 2.2.19 kernel on the floppies could happily read my existing partitions, and I had no is the kernel actually going to mount /home? moments. In the installer, I like the flexibility of being able to jump around and do different things. What I don't like is not being able to see a quick summary of what's been selected/done so far. Even if it just said I'm gonna mount / on /dev/hda1, there's an active swap partition at /dev/hda2, and you haven't installed anything yet that would be good. No help whatsoever in installing or configuring the grub bootloader. While grub is an uber-neato bit of software, it's a total bear to set up at first. I actually gave up and went back to LILO for the sake of convenience - I think I could have spent the entire evening just playing with grub. All in all, though, a rewarding experience. At the end of the evening I had a fully functional Linux system running GNOME, with Evo and Galeon in place and working. No user data was ever lost and my Windows partition (gotta play games, dontcha know) was unaffected. Regards Peter. -- Peter Whysall [EMAIL PROTECTED] The TLD in my email address is sdrawkcab.
mistake: apt-get and debian 2.2
I knew there was something strange about this! I didn't register the 2.2; Herbert xu's email said on the bottom: debian 2.2 is out. Well it has been for quite some time, but I just registered debian being out with a new version and jumped to the conclusion (quite a jump!) that 3.0 was out! Sorry!
Re: Installation notes - Debian 2.2
Peter Whysall, Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 05:33:35PM +: [Now that I'm subscribed on d-u, I'm reposting this as I'd really like feedback that I can reply to - I might have made some bonehead remarks here :-)] Symlinking /dev/mouse to /dev/psaux wouldn't hurt THAT much, would it? Depends on wether or not you use gpm. Networking configuration. Or the complete and utter absence thereof. For a distro that wants to install off the internet, not detecting, configuring and using an absolutely bog-standard 3Com 3C590 10MBit card is a bit heinous. I had to edit /etc/network/interfaces myself, and the card never did get its module loaded automatically and interface started until I had created a 2.4.18 kernel package. When this was installed, it all Just Worked. Debian doesn't do autodetection, yet. Someone should have warned you to open you box and note what was inside before procedding with the install. The lack of auto-detection isn't that big a deal with the network card, but is _really_ felt during the X configuration process. If you had loaded the module for the network card the installer would have prompted you for the information to configure /etc/network/interfaces As I've pointed out to Karsten (and others) in the past, FreeBSD has this down pat - two floppies and you're away - in stark contrast to the 13-17 floppies you need for Debian, and networking config is a solved problem. OK, FreeBSD sucks rocks once it's installed, but you get the idea :) Debian - Difficult to Install, Easy to Maintain Sound? Well, I've got the best sound card that never ruled the world - the Aureal SonicVortex2, based on the AU8830 chipset. As Creative Labs bought Aureal to save their blushes (Aureal's A3D surround sound kicked Creative's EAX all over the shop, and Aureal had the misfortune to go bust at the wrong time) and promptly killed it, the drivers are in legal limbo. However, http://www.braincells.com/debian/sid/au88xx/ to the rescue! Apart from a totally horked genchanges.sh script (pgp shenanigans), this worked fine and didn't mean I had to step outside the packaging system to get this going. Slight problems - the module doesn't get loaded at boot time and /dev/mixer and /dev/dsp had 0660 permissions, which meant mere mortals couldn't access them. Add yourself to the audio group rather than change permissions. Other random thoughts: Some wrapper script to jiggle /etc/apt/sources.list to enable easy switching between testing and stable, and also mirror selection. ftp.uk.debian.org started going hella slow last night at about 8PM, and switching to ftp.de.debian.org fixed it - but I had to edit the file to make this happen. You can always put multiple sources in the same sources.list. When you do an apt-get update, the source which downloads its Packages files first will have a higher preference in the database. I'm not sure whether the ability to add mutiple sources for the same packages is planned or not. Hell, *I* might write this :) There needs to be apt tasks for GNOME and KDE. If there are, I can't see them. Not that I want to install KDE, mind, but a simple method of zapping it when I find it would be nice :) good point. Aptitude and apt-utils should be part of the base install. Too useful not to have. useful but not necessary. All in all, though, a rewarding experience. At the end of the evening I had a fully functional Linux system running GNOME, with Evo and Galeon in place and working. No user data was ever lost and my Windows partition (gotta play games, dontcha know) was unaffected. Debian really grows on you the more you use it. ;) Oh, yeah. Play Urban Terror (a quake3 mod) on Linux and you won;t need that win32 partition anymore. g -- Brought to you by Debian 3.0 Linux took 2.4.16 #1 SMP Sat Jan 5 12:52:24 EST 2002 i686 unknown pgpEfB7qcQ2sm.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: mistake: apt-get and debian 2.2 - UNSUBSCRIBE
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Re: mistake: apt-get and debian 2.2
On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 12:53:19PM -0600, Cheryl Homiak wrote: I knew there was something strange about this! I didn't register the 2.2; Herbert xu's email said on the bottom: debian 2.2 is out. Well it has been for quite some time, but I just registered debian being out with a new version and jumped to the conclusion (quite a jump!) that 3.0 was out! Sorry! Ah, yes! Well, what you do when that eventually happens depends on what your sources.list looks like at the moment. If you're using 'woody', then you'll be following the stable branch, and the only updates you'll get will be security updates as 3.0r1, 3.0r2, etc. are released. (You should also add security.debian.org to sources.list after the woody release if you go that way.) On the other hand, if you're using 'testing', then you'll follow the release candidate for woody+1 as it develops. It'll be called something other than 'sid' - 'sarge' has been suggested once, but we don't really know the name yet. In neither case will you accidentally end up using 'sid'. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation notes - Debian 2.2
* Angus D Madden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: Peter Whysall, Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 05:33:35PM +: ... Networking configuration. Or the complete and utter absence thereof. For a distro that wants to install off the internet, not detecting, configuring and using an absolutely bog-standard 3Com 3C590 10MBit card is a bit heinous. I had to edit /etc/network/interfaces myself, and the card never did get its module loaded automatically and interface started until I had created a 2.4.18 kernel package. When this was installed, it all Just Worked. Debian doesn't do autodetection, yet. Someone should have warned you to open you box and note what was inside before procedding with the install. The lack of auto-detection isn't that big a deal with the network card, but is _really_ felt during the X configuration process. If you had loaded the module for the network card the installer would have prompted you for the information to configure /etc/network/interfaces You mean there's a module on install disks nowadays? Last I checked it was only in udma+reiser or some such. Dima -- I like the US government, makes the Aussie one look less dumb and THAT is a pretty big effort. -- Craig Small
(SOLUCIONADO) debian 2.2 con xfree 4.x
Estimados, Despues de tanto preguntar, leer, buscar, etc he logrado bajar xfree86 4.1 para Debian Potato. Les paso a contar como logre hacerlo gracias a toda su ayuda: 1. agregar las siguientes lineas a /etc/apt/sources.list (que queden solo estas dos lineas activas, las otras anteponele un # comentario) deb http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/ xf410_potato/i386/ deb http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/ xf410_potato/all/ 2. ejecutar, en este orden (no se si es necesario o no) apt-get update apt-get upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade apt-get install xserver-xfree86 apt-get install xserver-common apt-get install xutils Para la parte de configuracion, todavia no llegue, despues les cuento como me fue, ah! y para instalar Kde2 en Potato, vallan a http://kde.debian.net que ahi estan las instrucciones. MUCHAS GRACIAS A TODOS LOS QUE ME AYUDARON, espero no haberlos molestado mucho. Saludos y exitos para todos!. Ezequiel. Ituzaingo, Corrientes, Argentina.
Re: debian 2.2 con xfree 4.x
Ezequiel dijo: En algun orden en especial? # dpkg -i *.deb Como habrá lío de dependencias lo arreglas con varios # dpkg --configure -a Suerte! -- .''`. cat /dev/gafas /dev/null : :' : `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux Sid (Kernel 2.4.14) `-www.amayita.com www.malapecora.com www.chicasduras.com
Re: debian 2.2 con xfree 4.x
On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 07:05:57PM -0300, Ezequiel wrote: Estimados, Me estoy volviendo loco, por favor! cuales son TODOS los comandos que tengo que tipear para bajar ENTERO el xfree4? Ya tengo las dos lineas en /etc/apt/sources.listdeb (http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf403_potato/i386/ y deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf403_potato/all/ ), pongo apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade y me baja algunos archivos (3 o 2 en total) y termina ahi. no te desesperes prueba con: task-x-window-system - X Window System (complete) task-x-window-system-core - X Window System (core components) o busca un paquete task que haga lo que tu quieres has, por ejemplo, apt-cache show task-x-window-system-core para ver si instala todos los paquetes que quieres estos paquetes no dependen de la versión de X, son genéricos por otra parte, al menos la versión que yo tengo (1.2), instala xserver-svga, así que tendrías que instalar a mano xserver-xfree86 sds. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Los verdaderos amigos se tienen que enfadar de vez en cuando. -- Louis Pasteur. (1822-1895) Químico francés.
Re: debian 2.2 con xfree 4.x
Favio, Si yo bajo todos los archivos que estan en http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/xf403_potato/i386/ y http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/xf403_potato/all/ y los guardo en una carpeta local, digamos /root/x/ .. hay alguna forma de luego instalarlo como haria apt-get? Saludos.
Re: debian 2.2 con xfree 4.x
El Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 05:36:47PM -0300, Ezequiel dijo: Favio, Si yo bajo todos los archivos que estan en http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/xf403_potato/i386/ y http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/xf403_potato/all/ y los guardo en una carpeta local, digamos /root/x/ .. hay alguna forma de luego instalarlo como haria apt-get? dpkg -i [nombre del archivo del paquete] --
Re: debian 2.2 con xfree 4.x
El jue 14 de mar de 2002, a las 05:36:47 -0300, Ezequiel dijo: Si yo bajo todos los archivos que estan en http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/xf403_potato/i386/ y http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/xf403_potato/all/ y los guardo en una carpeta local, digamos /root/x/ .. hay alguna forma de luego instalarlo como haria apt-get? Copia los paquetes en /var/cache/apt/archives y despues ejecuta apt-get. Saludos -- -- Tomás Sánchez Santos[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: debian 2.2 con xfree 4.x
From: ^pi^ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ezequiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lista debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 7:09 PM Subject: Re: debian 2.2 con xfree 4.x El Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 05:36:47PM -0300, Ezequiel dijo: Favio, Si yo bajo todos los archivos que estan en http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/xf403_potato/i386/ y http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/xf403_potato/all/ y los guardo en una carpeta local, digamos /root/x/ .. hay alguna forma de luego instalarlo como haria apt-get? dpkg -i [nombre del archivo del paquete] En algun orden en especial? Saludos y gracias.
Re: debian 2.2 con xfree 4.x
Estimados, Me estoy volviendo loco, por favor! cuales son TODOS los comandos que tengo que tipear para bajar ENTERO el xfree4? Ya tengo las dos lineas en /etc/apt/sources.listdeb (http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf403_potato/i386/ y deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf403_potato/all/ ), pongo apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade y me baja algunos archivos (3 o 2 en total) y termina ahi. POR FAVOR! Muchas gracias. Saludos. Ezequiel .x( script de todo lo que hice )x. __ debian:~# apt-get update 0% [Working] 0% [Connecting to people.debian.org] 0% [Connecting to people.debian.org (198.186.203.20)] 0% [Waiting for file] Hit http://people.debian.org xf410_potato/i386/ Packages Ign http://people.debian.org xf410_potato/i386/ Release Hit http://people.debian.org xf410_potato/all/ Packages Ign http://people.debian.org xf410_potato/all/ Release 80% [Working] Reading Package Lists... 0% Reading Package Lists... 100% Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... 0% Building Dependency Tree... 100% Building Dependency Tree... Done debian:~# apt-get upgrade Reading Package Lists... 0% Reading Package Lists... 100% Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... 0% Building Dependency Tree... 100% Building Dependency Tree... Done The following packages have been kept back xlib6g 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. debian:~# apt-get dist-upgrade Reading Package Lists... 0% Reading Package Lists... 100% Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... 0% Building Dependency Tree... 100% Building Dependency Tree... Done Calculating Upgrade... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: xpm4g The following NEW packages will be installed: libxaw6 xlibs 1 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 1437kB of archives. After unpacking 1375kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y 0% [Working] 0% [Connecting to people.debian.org] 0% [Connecting to people.debian.org (198.186.203.20)] 0% [Waiting for file] Get:1 http://people.debian.org xf410_potato/all/ xlib6g 4.1.0-9potato13 [53.8kB] 0% [1 xlib6g 1117/53.8kB 2%] 3% [1 xlib6g 46005/53.8kB 85%] 5060B/s 4m34s Get:2 http://people.debian.org xf410_potato/i386/ libxaw6 4.1.0-9potato13 [162kB] 3% [2 libxaw6 543/162kB 0%] 5060B/s 4m33s 14% [2 libxaw6 156927/162kB 97%] 3119B/s 6m33s Get:3 http://people.debian.org xf410_potato/i386/ xlibs 4.1.0-9potato13 [1222kB] 15% [3 xlibs 761/1222kB 0%]3119B/s 6m31s 99% [1 xlibs 1221032/1222kB 99%]4678B/s 0s 100% [Working]4678B/s 0s Fetched 823kB in 7m55s (1730B/s) 33% [Scanning packages] 66% [Scanning packages] 100% [Scanning packages] dpkg: xpm4g: problemas de dependencias, pero se desinstalará de todas formas tal y como se solicitó: xfig depende de libxpm4; sin embargo: el paquete libxpm4 no está instalado. el paquete xpm4g que provee libxpm4 va a ser desinstalado. (Leyendo la base de datos ... 22696 ficheros y directorios instalados actualmente.) Desinstalando xpm4g ... (Leyendo la base de datos ... 22687 ficheros y directorios instalados actualmente.) Preparando para reemplazar xlib6g 3.3.6-11potato32 (usando .../xlib6g_4.1.0-9potato13_all.deb) ... Desempaquetando reemplazo xlib6g ... Seleccionando el paquete xlibs previamente no seleccionado. Desempaquetando xlibs (de .../xlibs_4.1.0-9potato13_i386.deb) ... Note: Removing obsolete /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults directory. Seleccionando el paquete libxaw6 previamente no seleccionado. Desempaquetando libxaw6 (de .../libxaw6_4.1.0-9potato13_i386.deb) ... Configurando xlibs (4.1.0-9potato13) ... Configurando libxaw6 (4.1.0-9potato13) ... Configurando xlib6g (4.1.0-9potato13) ... debian:~# __
Re: Re: debian 2.2 con xfree 4.x y kde 2.x
El dom, 10-03-2002 a las 22:47, Juan Ortiz escribió: El dom, 10 de mar de 2002, a las 09:51:06 +0100, Antonio Castro dijo: (...) Solo añadiré que a pesar de todo lo dicho, las distribuciones comerciales y propietarias como SuSE, RedHat y Mandrake tampoco ofrecen una solución razonable porque tener que volver a comprar una nueva versión de todo cada cuatro o seis meses es una forma de dependencia que entre otras muchas razones no menos importantes hace que muchos terminen en Debian después de pasar por otras distribuciones. Yo empece con Red Hat (bueno me la instalaron) y a pesar de el concepto de que son más sencillasyo la encontre complicadanunca había visto un *nix en mi vida y tener un sistema que el lo hacía todo pero luego no arrancaba nada.no me convencía...no sabía salir de los menus gráficos de configuraciones.entonces encotré una tal Debian por casa y me dijea probar5 años despues sigo usandola. Era más manual, pero encontre todo muy bien ordenado y documentado, lo suficiente como para que en 2 semanas tener mi debian funcionando y conectada a internet con mi modem de 14 K ( x'D ). ¿Por que Debian? Porque yo lo valgo ;-) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: debian 2.2 con xfree 4.x
Estimados, Sigo con esto, ahora que estan bien configurados los DNS y despues de seguir sus instrucciones, agregue las siguientes lineas al /etc/apt/sources.list (son las unicas lineas en todo el archivo): deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf403_potato/i386/ deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf403_potato/all/ Luego hice (conectado): apt-get update y luego: apt-get upgrade Bueno, la primera vez que hice esto bajo un archivo que no me acuerdo el nombre de alrededor 500kb, pero eso solo nada mas. ¿A que puede deberse esto?, ¿estoy escribiendo mal los comandos?, ¿necesito algo mas? Saludos y muchas gracias. PD: para instalar un .deb, tengo que hacer: dgpk --install archivo.deb ¿esta bien esto?
Re: debian 2.2 con xfree 4.x
On 12-Mar-2002 Ezequiel wrote: Estimados, Sigo con esto, ahora que estan bien configurados los DNS y despues de seguir sus instrucciones, agregue las siguientes lineas al /etc/apt/sources.list (son las unicas lineas en todo el archivo): deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf403_potato/i386/ deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf403_potato/all/ Luego hice (conectado): apt-get update y luego: apt-get upgrade Prueba # apt-get dist-upgrade Bueno, la primera vez que hice esto bajo un archivo que no me acuerdo el nombre de alrededor 500kb, pero eso solo nada mas. ¿A que puede deberse esto?, ¿estoy escribiendo mal los comandos?, ¿necesito algo mas? Saludos y muchas gracias. PD: para instalar un .deb, tengo que hacer: dgpk --install archivo.deb ¿esta bien esto? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- E-Mail: Pedro Bados [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 13-Mar-2002 ---
Re: Re: debian 2.2 con xfree 4.x y kde 2.x
On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Juan Ortiz wrote: El dom, 10 de mar de 2002, a las 09:51:06 +0100, Antonio Castro dijo: (...) Solo añadiré que a pesar de todo lo dicho, las distribuciones comerciales y propietarias como SuSE, RedHat y Mandrake tampoco ofrecen una solución razonable porque tener que volver a comprar una nueva versión de todo cada cuatro o seis meses es una forma de dependencia que entre otras muchas razones no menos importantes hace que muchos terminen en Debian después de pasar por otras distribuciones. Pero Antonio,esas distribuciones estan *obligadas a ganar dinero*,imaginate que tienen que mantener una plantilla importante de empleados,por lo cual sacar una version nueva cada 6 meses es funcional Exacto Debian no. a ese negocio,no obstante solo confirmame si realmente estas obligado a comprar toda la distribucion nuevamente para actualizar el sistema,es que acaso no lo puedes actualizar por la red?,eso me pareceria ridiculo Yo no he dicho que estés obligado pero para una empresa más o menos suele ser así. realmente,por otra parte yo comence con una SuSE 7.0 pero lo que no me gustaba era que ella lo hacia todo,mas precisamente yast,y eso no me interesaba por una cuestion de aprendizaje personal,luego conoci Debian y obviamente me impacto su proyecto alejado de las presiones comerciales de sus competidoras. Las distribuciones propietarias han aprovechado un hueco que el software libre deja. Me refiero a las cosas que hacen especialmente atractivas una distribución a los ojos de un novato. Precisamente por eso una vez que se pasa ese primer efecto y que la persona aprende un poquito comienza a fijarse en las muchas ventajas que ofrece Debian para continuar aprendiendo y emprenden el camino de la autosuficiencia. Es algo que yo percibo en mucha gente. Depender de Debian es lo más parecido a depender de uno mismo y al principio eso da miedo, pero cuando se aprende un poco más, se pierden los miedos y se busca la máxima libertad. Un saludo Antonio Castro +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+ /\ /\ Ciberdroide Informática (Tienda de Linux) \\W// http://www.ciberdroide.com _|0 0|_ +-oOOO--(___o___)--OOOo+ | . . . . U U . . . . Antonio Castro Snurmacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | . . . . . . . . . . | +()()()--()()()+ | *** 1.700 sitios clasificados por temas sobre Linux en ***Donde_Linux*** | | http://www.ciberdroide.com/misc/donde/dondelinux.html | +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+
Re: debian 2.2 con xfree 4.x y kde 2.x
On Sat, 2002-03-09 at 23:09, Ezequiel wrote: Estimados, Agradezco a todos los que me respondieron, ... ahora, llegue a la conclusion de que no hay una version oficial de xfree 4 para potato!, como puede ser esto?, se le esta dando mucha importancia a las versiones posteriores (woody...)?. Respecto a esto, la respuesta es muy simple: potato es una versión que salió con la versión anterior de xfree. Y esa es la versión, no puede hacer una actualización de versión de un paquete, nada más ofrecer parches de seguridad para los paquetes que tiene incluidos. Las versiones actualizadas de paquetes deben aparecer cuando salga la nueva versión oficial (woody) y eso está bien, lo malo es que woody ha demorado mucho, pero así es Debian, y por eso es lo que es: la versión estable de Debian es realmente estable. Si hay una siguiente versión estabilizada, pasa a ser la oficial, cosa que aún no sucede. Cosa de ver otras distribuciones que aparecen con bastantes bugs algunos muy graves. El kernel de potato tampoco es el 2.4 que es el de otras distribuciones, el kernel 2.4 apareció con problemas graves, así que me parece lógico que Debian no lo halla puesto en versión estable hasta que se halla estabilizado el mismo.
Re: Re: debian 2.2 con xfree 4.x y kde 2.x
On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Jose M. Fdez. wrote: El sáb, 09 de mar de 2002, a las 11:09:37 -0300, Ezequiel dijo: Estimados, Agradezco a todos los que me respondieron, ... ahora, llegue a la conclusion de que no hay una version oficial de xfree 4 para potato!, como puede ser esto?, se le esta dando mucha importancia a Es simplemente porque potato, pese a ser la última Debian estable, es ya bastante antigua y muchas cosas como en este caso XFree 4 aún no habían salido o, si lo habían hecho, no con el tiempo suficiente como para pasar todos los controles de calidad necesarios como para poder entrar a tiempo en la distribución estable. Muchas gracias y saludos. Un saludo Que me corrijan los expertos debianeros si me equivoco lo cual es muy probable. Una vez se estabiliza una nueva versión de Debian (cosa que requiere un enorme esfuerzo) solo se producen las actualizaciones necesarias para corregir fallos de seguridad. Es decir dentro de una misma versión las distintas Relases incluyen muy pocos cambios y siempre orientados a robustecer la distribución. Por en paquetes muy importantes tales como el kernel, el compilador de C, el bash, el perl, las XFree, los escritorios, y en general de cualquier paquete del cual pueda depender el correcto funcionamiento de otros muchos paquetes se evita totalmente subir la versión y si apareciera un bug importante en alguno de ellos (cosa poco probable) lo que habría que hacer es parchear corrigiendo exclusivamente ese bug pero nunca subir la versión o añadir funcionalidad. El único inconveniente de este excelente esquema de trabajo ocurre cuando la versión estable se convierte en versión estable anticuada. Lo de anticuada siempre es algo relativo pero hay que reconocer que Debian es 100% libre y por lo tanto se situa fuera de esa absurda espiral consumista que hace que los equipos de Hardware queden obsoletos rápidamente. Ello hace que las personas que compran equipos nuevos muchas veces se vean obligados a comprar cosas que quizás ya no estén correctamente soportadas en los kernels de las versiones estables cuando pasan unos meses. Me refiero a que las tiendas suelen vender lo último de lo último y lo de hace seis meses ni lo tienen en Stock ni les interesa tenerlo. Un infierno. La solución a este problema a mi modo de ver no pasa por Debian sino por los proyectos independientes basados en Debian. Lo que ocurre es que estos proyectos parece que tienen más vida cuando las versiones estables son recientes que cuando las versiones estables son antiguas. Especialmente cuando se congela la versión inestable y pasa a ser considerada en fase Testing. Woody lleva mucho tiempo desde que se congeló y eso la hace muy usable. Esto hace que la versión estable pierda mucho interés para los desarrolladores y los proyectos independientes del tipo que mencioné antes los cuales se enfocan en la versión Testing y en la Inestable. Bueno solo quería señalar el problema tal como yo lo veo pero me enrrollado excesivamente. Para mi es un tema apasionante. Solo añadiré que a pesar de todo lo dicho, las distribuciones comerciales y propietarias como SuSE, RedHat y Mandrake tampoco ofrecen una solución razonable porque tener que volver a comprar una nueva versión de todo cada cuatro o seis meses es una forma de dependencia que entre otras muchas razones no menos importantes hace que muchos terminen en Debian después de pasar por otras distribuciones. Un saludo Antonio Castro +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+ /\ /\ Ciberdroide Informática (Tienda de Linux) \\W// http://www.ciberdroide.com _|0 0|_ +-oOOO--(___o___)--OOOo+ | . . . . U U . . . . Antonio Castro Snurmacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | . . . . . . . . . . | +()()()--()()()+ | *** 1.700 sitios clasificados por temas sobre Linux en ***Donde_Linux*** | | http://www.ciberdroide.com/misc/donde/dondelinux.html | +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+
Re: Re: debian 2.2 con xfree 4.x y kde 2.x
El dom, 10 de mar de 2002, a las 09:51:06 +0100, Antonio Castro dijo: (...) Solo añadiré que a pesar de todo lo dicho, las distribuciones comerciales y propietarias como SuSE, RedHat y Mandrake tampoco ofrecen una solución razonable porque tener que volver a comprar una nueva versión de todo cada cuatro o seis meses es una forma de dependencia que entre otras muchas razones no menos importantes hace que muchos terminen en Debian después de pasar por otras distribuciones. Pero Antonio,esas distribuciones estan *obligadas a ganar dinero*,imaginate que tienen que mantener una plantilla importante de empleados,por lo cual sacar una version nueva cada 6 meses es funcional a ese negocio,no obstante solo confirmame si realmente estas obligado a comprar toda la distribucion nuevamente para actualizar el sistema,es que acaso no lo puedes actualizar por la red?,eso me pareceria ridiculo realmente,por otra parte yo comence con una SuSE 7.0 pero lo que no me gustaba era que ella lo hacia todo,mas precisamente yast,y eso no me interesaba por una cuestion de aprendizaje personal,luego conoci Debian y obviamente me impacto su proyecto alejado de las presiones comerciales de sus competidoras. Un saludo igualmente -- Juan Ortiz Powered by Debian GNU/Linux Woody
RE: debian 2.2 con xfree 4.x y kde 2.x
para el xfree4.x basicamente tienes que poner en el /etc/apt/sources.list una linea como esta: deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf403_potato/i386/ deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf403_potato/all/ te tendras que bajar la libfreetype6 http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/xf4_potato_deps/libfreetype6/ para mas info leete el http://cpbotha.net/building_xfree86_4.0.3_debs_on_potato.HOWTO por lo del kde es igual pero no tengo a mano las lineas busca en los mensajes de la lista o en algun buscador, siempre debes recurrir alli primero. saludos - Original Message - From: Ezequiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 9:38 PM Subject: debian 2.2 con xfree 4.x y kde 2.x Estimados, Poseo la version oficial de potato (3cds) pero me encuentro con un problema. Mi placa grafica no es soportada por xfree hasta la version 4, y potato incluye una version 3.x. Tambien he notado la falta de kde en los cds de esta distribucion. Soy bastante nuevo en el mundo de linux y no se donde puedo conseguir estos programas. Me han hablado de una aplicacion propia de debian: apt-get, la cual es usada para actualizar programas. Desearia de ser posible que me expliquen como utilizar esta herramienta (apt-get) para conseguir xfree 4.x (sin tener otra version anterior instalada) y kde 2.x (sin tener otra version anterior instalada), dado que no poseo una coneccion de banda ancha, solo un modem comun (correctamente configurado en debian) agradeceria me informaran de si existe alguna forma de resumir la descarga de estos programas que como bien saben ocupan decenas de megas. La idea seria bajarlos pero pudiendo parar la descarga en cualquier momento para seguir otro dia. Aclaro, como ya dije antes, soy principiante, por lo tanto los procesos de compilacion desearia evitarlos por ahora. Desde ya muchas gracias. Saludos. Ituzaingo, Corrientes, Argentina. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian 2.2 con xfree 4.x y kde 2.x
resumiendo: RTFM! 1.- comienza por $ man apt y /usr/share/doc/apt/guide* 2.- luego instala debian-guide # apt-get install debian-guide 3.- léela 4.- si aún te queda alguna duda, pregunta puede que te baste con el primer paso, ahórrate futuros dolores de cabeza y léete la debian-guide, además estimula y sienta bien (TM) sds. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I'd crawl over an acre of 'Visual This++' and 'Integrated Development That' to get to gcc, Emacs, and gdb. Thank you. (By Vance Petree, Virginia Power)
Re: debian 2.2 con xfree 4.x y kde 2.x
El vie 08 de mar de 2002, a las 09:38:20 -0300, Ezequiel dijo: Poseo la version oficial de potato (3cds) pero me encuentro con un problema. Mi placa grafica no es soportada por xfree hasta la version 4, y potato incluye una version 3.x. Tambien he notado la falta de kde en los cds de esta distribucion. Soy bastante nuevo en el mundo de linux y no se donde puedo conseguir estos programas. Me han hablado de una aplicacion propia de debian: apt-get, la cual es usada para actualizar programas. Si. Con apt-get puedes actualizar e instalar programas. Para mas informacion, mira la pagina de manual de apt-get. Ademas, en http://www.escomposlinux.org/jcantero/linux/debian/apt-doc.php tienes una traduccion de la guia de apt. Desearia de ser posible que me expliquen como utilizar esta herramienta (apt-get) para conseguir xfree 4.x (sin tener otra version anterior instalada) y kde 2.x (sin tener otra version anterior instalada), dado que no poseo una coneccion de banda ancha, solo un modem comun (correctamente configurado en debian) agradeceria me informaran de si existe alguna forma de resumir la descarga de estos programas que como bien saben ocupan decenas de megas. La idea seria bajarlos pero pudiendo parar la descarga en cualquier momento para seguir otro dia. Aclaro, como ya dije antes, soy principiante, por lo tanto los procesos de compilacion desearia evitarlos por ahora. Para instalar las XFree 4.1.x, sigue las instruccciones que tienes en http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/xf410_potato/READ.THIS Para instalar KDE, añade la siguiente linea al fichero sources.list deb http://kde.debian.net potato main crypto optional y despues ejecuta apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade. Sin embargo, tienes que tener en cuenta que estos paquetes corresponden a la version 2.1.2 de KDE. Si quieres la ultima version de KDE, tendras que actualizar a Woody, ya que no hay paquetes para Potato. En cuanto a las descargas, no te preocupes, ya que apt te permite resumir las mismas. Saludos -- -- Tomás Sánchez Santos[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: debian 2.2 con xfree 4.x y kde 2.x
Estimados, Agradezco a todos los que me respondieron, ... ahora, llegue a la conclusion de que no hay una version oficial de xfree 4 para potato!, como puede ser esto?, se le esta dando mucha importancia a las versiones posteriores (woody...)?. Muchas gracias y saludos. Ituzaingo, Corrientes, Argentina From: Tomás Sánchez Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 7:17 PM Subject: Re: debian 2.2 con xfree 4.x y kde 2.x El vie 08 de mar de 2002, a las 09:38:20 -0300, Ezequiel dijo: Poseo la version oficial de potato (3cds) pero me encuentro con un problema. Mi placa grafica no es soportada por xfree hasta la version 4, y potato incluye una version 3.x. Tambien he notado la falta de kde en los cds de esta distribucion. Soy bastante nuevo en el mundo de linux y no se donde puedo conseguir estos programas. Me han hablado de una aplicacion propia de debian: apt-get, la cual es usada para actualizar programas. Si. Con apt-get puedes actualizar e instalar programas. Para mas informacion, mira la pagina de manual de apt-get. Ademas, en http://www.escomposlinux.org/jcantero/linux/debian/apt-doc.php tienes una traduccion de la guia de apt. Desearia de ser posible que me expliquen como utilizar esta herramienta (apt-get) para conseguir xfree 4.x (sin tener otra version anterior instalada) y kde 2.x (sin tener otra version anterior instalada), dado que no poseo una coneccion de banda ancha, solo un modem comun (correctamente configurado en debian) agradeceria me informaran de si existe alguna forma de resumir la descarga de estos programas que como bien saben ocupan decenas de megas. La idea seria bajarlos pero pudiendo parar la descarga en cualquier momento para seguir otro dia. Aclaro, como ya dije antes, soy principiante, por lo tanto los procesos de compilacion desearia evitarlos por ahora. Para instalar las XFree 4.1.x, sigue las instruccciones que tienes en http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/xf410_potato/READ.THIS Para instalar KDE, añade la siguiente linea al fichero sources.list deb http://kde.debian.net potato main crypto optional y despues ejecuta apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade. Sin embargo, tienes que tener en cuenta que estos paquetes corresponden a la version 2.1.2 de KDE. Si quieres la ultima version de KDE, tendras que actualizar a Woody, ya que no hay paquetes para Potato. En cuanto a las descargas, no te preocupes, ya que apt te permite resumir las mismas. Saludos -- -- Tomás Sánchez Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Re: debian 2.2 con xfree 4.x y kde 2.x
El sáb, 09 de mar de 2002, a las 11:09:37 -0300, Ezequiel dijo: Estimados, Agradezco a todos los que me respondieron, ... ahora, llegue a la conclusion de que no hay una version oficial de xfree 4 para potato!, como puede ser esto?, se le esta dando mucha importancia a Es simplemente porque potato, pese a ser la última Debian estable, es ya bastante antigua y muchas cosas como en este caso XFree 4 aún no habían salido o, si lo habían hecho, no con el tiempo suficiente como para pasar todos los controles de calidad necesarios como para poder entrar a tiempo en la distribución estable. Muchas gracias y saludos. Un saludo -- Jose M. Fernández Debian GNU/Linux User #197079 Benetússer - València, Spain pgpGJT4ghYaTk.pgp Description: PGP signature
debian 2.2 con xfree 4.x y kde 2.x
Estimados, Poseo la version oficial de potato (3cds) pero me encuentro con un problema. Mi placa grafica no es soportada por xfree hasta la version 4, y potato incluye una version 3.x. Tambien he notado la falta de kde en los cds de esta distribucion. Soy bastante nuevo en el mundo de linux y no se donde puedo conseguir estos programas. Me han hablado de una aplicacion propia de debian: apt-get, la cual es usada para actualizar programas. Desearia de ser posible que me expliquen como utilizar esta herramienta (apt-get) para conseguir xfree 4.x (sin tener otra version anterior instalada) y kde 2.x (sin tener otra version anterior instalada), dado que no poseo una coneccion de banda ancha, solo un modem comun (correctamente configurado en debian) agradeceria me informaran de si existe alguna forma de resumir la descarga de estos programas que como bien saben ocupan decenas de megas. La idea seria bajarlos pero pudiendo parar la descarga en cualquier momento para seguir otro dia. Aclaro, como ya dije antes, soy principiante, por lo tanto los procesos de compilacion desearia evitarlos por ahora. Desde ya muchas gracias. Saludos. Ituzaingo, Corrientes, Argentina.
AYUDA INSTALACION SOUND BLASTER 128 PCI EN DEBIAN 2.2
Hola! Me dirigo a ustedes para pedirles su ayuda en la configuración de mi tarjeta de sonido. Dispongo de una Sound Blaster 128 pci, la tengo instalada en el kernel (2.2) como un módulo (es1371). La tarjeta es reconocida por el sistema, se ve en el archivo pci. Al ejecutar cat /dev/sndstat me devuelve todos los parámetros en blanco. Entonces supongo que debo configurar el driver introduciendo los dma, irq, e/s,... Agradeceria me respondieran con unasolucióna mi problema y me explicaran como configurar el driver para conseguir que funcione mi tarjeta de sonido en debian.Si consideran que debo modificar algo en la instalación o lo que sea por favor comuniquenmelo de forma clara y detallada. Por favor no ser excesivamente técnicos ya que soy nuevo en esto. GRACIAS POR SU TRABAJO
Re: AYUDA INSTALACION SOUND BLASTER 128 PCI EN DEBIAN 2.2
zeed wrote: Hola! Me dirigo a ustedes para pedirles su ayuda en la configuración de mi tarjeta de sonido. Dispongo de una Sound Blaster 128 pci, la tengo instalada en el kernel (2.2) como un módulo (es1371). La tarjeta es reconocida por el sistema, se ve en el archivo pci. Al ejecutar cat /dev/sndstat me devuelve todos los parámetros en blanco. Entonces supongo que debo configurar el driver introduciendo los dma, irq, e/s,... Agradeceria me respondieran con una solución a mi problema y me explicaran como configurar el driver para conseguir que funcione mi tarjeta de sonido en debian. Si consideran que debo modificar algo en la instalación o lo que sea por favor comuniquenmelo de forma clara y detallada. Por favor no ser excesivamente técnicos ya que soy nuevo en esto. GRACIAS POR SU TRABAJO holas es el mismo modulo en 2.4 adios
Re: instalando debian 2.2 r5 con las iso mensaje 1
... y entonces jorge carlos escribió: En el momento de instalar booteo con el cd lo mas bien, instala el sistema base y todo eso al momento que reinicia la pc para terminar de configurarlo pide para instalar el resto del sistema y en el momento de cuando busca los paquetes me pide que inserte el cd1 binary y toda esa historia de la etiqueta, pero el tema es que no encuentra la lista de paquetes o el origen de donde sacarlos o buscarlos. ¿Qué cdrom tienes? ¿Es uno IDE ATAPI de los normales u otro un poco más raro? ¿Añadiste los cds mediante apt-cdrom add durante la instalación? Mira a ver que tienes en el fichero /etc/apt/sources.list Leete el man de apt-get. Bueno el tema es que por esa cuestión no puedo terminar de instalar el SO. Si hombre, no desesperes ;-) También quería consultar si existe alguna opción para instalar todos los paquetes de una, digamos una instalación completa. (calculo que debe existir una forma de hacerlo, pero no se cual es). Creo que no sabes bien las proporciones de lo que estás diciendo. Esto no es guindous que trae el notepad y 4 cosillas más. Mi consejo es que instales lo mínimo y luego vayas añadiendo cosas según las vas necesitando o según las quieras ir probando. Al final tendrás, como mucho, instalado un 10-20% del total de paquetes. Otro tema es el idioma, me gustaría poder instalarlo en idioma español, o por lo menos que el entorno grafico este en español. Instala el paquete user-es: apt-get install user-es Después ejecuta (como root) el comando 'castellanizar'. tambien de que manera puedo elegir que arranque directamente en x. Ya sea como en gnome o en kde (aunque prefiero el kde) Kde no está en potato por problemas de licencias. Hasta que te hagas con una woody tendrás que conseguir kde de otra fuente. Para el arranque gráfico tendrás que instalar las X, y un display manager que tome el control en el arranque, como xdm o gdm. También el kdm, pero como te decía este no lo tienes en los cds de potato. -- Keyboard not present. Press F1 to resume. - Mi BIOS. Best things in life are free! faro at escomposlinux . org Debian GNU/Linux - Usuario Linux #162541
Re: instalando debian 2.2 r5 con las iso mensaje 1
jorge carlos wrote: Hola Quería consultar algo sobre la instalación del Debian 2.2 r5 que baje desde el FTP de España, les cuento baje las imágenes iso de todos los cds, del 1 al 3 y el non-us, resulta que los grabo todo bien hasta que quedan listos para instalar. En el momento de instalar booteo con el cd lo mas bien, instala el sistema base y todo eso al momento que reinicia la pc para terminar de configurarlo pide para instalar el resto del sistema y en el momento de cuando busca los paquetes me pide que inserte el cd1 binary y toda esa historia de la etiqueta, pero el tema es que no encuentra la lista de paquetes o el origen de donde sacarlos o buscarlos. Si mal no recuerdo el sistema primero te pregunta si vas a instalar paquetes desde algún ISP, le decís que no, luego te pide que le digas desde dónde vas instalarlos, ponés el CD 1, después te pregunta si querés agregar otro sitio, ponés el CD 2 y así sucesivamente. O sea para ir resumiendo, yo lo instalo lo mas bien todo joya, pero después de que reinicia y busca el cd 1 para supuestamente instalar todos los paquetes no anda ni para atrás, porque no los encuentra, me dice si lo quiero buscar en otro cd, o sea pone please insert another cd, bla bla.. Bueno el tema es que por esa cuestión no puedo terminar de instalar el SO. También quería consultar si existe alguna opción para instalar todos los paquetes de una, digamos una instalación completa. (calculo que debe existir una forma de hacerlo, pero no se cual es). Los paquetes no se instalan todos de una, primero porque ocuparían mucho lugar y segundo porque no necesitás a todos, además hay distintos paquetes que hacen lo mismo (ver en la lista las distintas opciones de servidores de correo, por ejemplo). Debian en bastante inteligente e instala una versión básica que sirve para funcionar normalmente (olvídate de las X en ese momento) Otro tema es el idioma, me gustaría poder instalarlo en idioma español Se está trabajando en eso, según se. Hay que mirar un poco en la red para ver en qué estado está el asunto. , o por lo menos que el entorno grafico este en español. después de instalarlo lo configurás. (tambien de que manera puedo elegir que arranque directamente en x. Ya sea como en gnome o en kde (aunque prefiero el kde) Cuando instales las X elegís xdm, o kdm o wdm y así arranca en modo gráfico. Bueno gente les agradezco que se hallan molestado en leer el mail Y espero abiertamente todo tipo de respuestas. Mil gracias Conectate a Internet GRATIS con Yahoo! Conexión: http://conexion.yahoo.com.ar -- Héctor Andrés Rompato Carricart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Coordinador técnico COVIARES S.A. -- Autopista La Plata - Buenos Aires Gerencia de equipos y sistemas
instalando debian 2.2 r5 con las iso mensaje 1
Hola Quería consultar algo sobre la instalación del Debian 2.2 r5 que baje desde el FTP de España, les cuento baje las imágenes iso de todos los cds, del 1 al 3 y el non-us, resulta que los grabo todo bien hasta que quedan listos para instalar. En el momento de instalar booteo con el cd lo mas bien, instala el sistema base y todo eso al momento que reinicia la pc para terminar de configurarlo pide para instalar el resto del sistema y en el momento de cuando busca los paquetes me pide que inserte el cd1 binary y toda esa historia de la etiqueta, pero el tema es que no encuentra la lista de paquetes o el origen de donde sacarlos o buscarlos. O sea para ir resumiendo, yo lo instalo lo mas bien todo joya, pero después de que reinicia y busca el cd 1 para supuestamente instalar todos los paquetes no anda ni para atrás, porque no los encuentra, me dice si lo quiero buscar en otro cd, o sea pone please insert another cd, bla bla.. Bueno el tema es que por esa cuestión no puedo terminar de instalar el SO. También quería consultar si existe alguna opción para instalar todos los paquetes de una, digamos una instalación completa. (calculo que debe existir una forma de hacerlo, pero no se cual es). Otro tema es el idioma, me gustaría poder instalarlo en idioma español, o por lo menos que el entorno grafico este en español. (tambien de que manera puedo elegir que arranque directamente en x. Ya sea como en gnome o en kde (aunque prefiero el kde) Bueno gente les agradezco que se hallan molestado en leer el mail Y espero abiertamente todo tipo de respuestas. Mil gracias Conectate a Internet GRATIS con Yahoo! Conexión: http://conexion.yahoo.com.ar
Config Geforce2GTS sous Debian 2.2 R4
yOp, Quelqu'un pourait-il m'expliquer comment configurer mon serverX avec une Geforce2 GTS 32Mo sous Debian 2.2 R4 ?? Merci d avance -HousY-
Re: Config Geforce2GTS sous Debian 2.2 R4
yOp, Quelqu'un pourait-il m'expliquer comment configurer mon serverX avec une Geforce2 GTS 32Mo sous Debian 2.2 R4 ?? Merci d avance -HousY- installes les drivers nvidia que tu trouveras sur le site de nvidia (www.nvidia.com) tout y est bien expliqué. par contre il me semble que tu auras besoin de XFree 4 ...
Re: Config Geforce2GTS sous Debian 2.2 R4
Bonjour, J'ai install une carte Nvidia GeForce sous Debian 2.2 R2 Pour cela il faut aller chercher sur le site Xfree86 la dernire version (4 quelque chose) et suivre leur mode d'emploi Jean-Luc
RE : Config Geforce2GTS sous Debian 2.2 R4
Le plus simple est encore de passer en woody, non ? +++ Stef -Message d'origine- De : Commutique [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : samedi 26 janvier 2002 13:33 À : Yann; debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Objet : Re: Config Geforce2GTS sous Debian 2.2 R4 Bonjour, J'ai installé une carte Nvidia GeForce sous Debian 2.2 R2 Pour cela il faut aller chercher sur le site Xfree86 la dernière version (4 quelque chose) et suivre leur mode d'emploi Jean-Luc
Re: RE : Config Geforce2GTS sous Debian 2.2 R4
Le plus simple est encore de passer en woody, non ? Ou encore d'utiliser les paquets XFree4 pour patate que l'on peut trouver sur un des people.debian.org... deb http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/xf410_potato/i386/ C'est plus simple que de faire un update du système... -- Le Sensei...
Re: Config Geforce2GTS sous Debian 2.2 R4
On Sat, Jan 26, 2002 at 10:41:12AM +0100, Yann wrote: yOp, Quelqu'un pourait-il m'expliquer comment configurer mon serverX avec une Geforce2 GTS 32Mo sous Debian 2.2 R4 ?? Ai réussi à faire marcher (sans accélération 3D) des GeForce 2 sous XFree 3.3.6 en rajoutant dans la section Device : Chipset GeForce 256 -- Cordialement, Benoit SPECKEL IReS - Bat 27e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23 rue du Loess voice: 03 88 10 68 23 BP 28 fax: 03 88 10 62 02 F-67037 STRASBOURG Cedex 2
Re: Config Geforce2GTS sous Debian 2.2 R4
On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Yann wrote: yOp, Quelqu'un pourait-il m'expliquer comment configurer mon serverX avec une Geforce2 GTS 32Mo sous Debian 2.2 R4 ?? Merci d avance -HousY- Salut, pas besoin de xfree 4 ou d'autres updates Je ne sais plus qui m'avait dit ça mais il suffit de mettre dans XF86Config : Section Device Identifier V7700 VendorName Asus BoardName GeForce 2 GTS DDR Chipset Quadro EndSection tu peux changer les noms pour y mettre ta carte à la place, l'important c'est juste Chipset Quadro. et ça marche impeccable. (utilisé avec la mienne sur 2.2r2 à 4) Si celui qui m'avait indiqué ça se reconnait alors un énorme merci à lui. (j'avais alors marioac comme email) hope this helps, = Alain Cabiran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NIS broken in debian 2.2?
According to Brent Kearney: Thanks to your reply though, I realized I forgot to take the +:: entries out of /etc/passwd and /etc/group. Now that I've done so, ldap is working for authentication, and I don't need NIS :). OK. However, as far as I can tell, NIS is indeed broken in this distro. Then you are wrong. NIS is working perfectly. I'm running it on multiple networks, each with 2-4 NIS servers, total about 40 clients, some mixed potato/woody setup, some pure woody. Mike. -- Deadlock, n.: Deceased rastaman.
Re: NIS broken in debian 2.2?
On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 10:09:03AM +, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brent Kearney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running the 'woody' distro on a PC with Linux 2.4.12-ac6. I installed the 'nis' debian package, and followed the nis.debian.howto that comes with that package. The setup went smoothly, and ypbind was able to contact the NIS server. ypcat works. However, NIS users are unable to authenticate to the system using SSH. Did you setup /etc/nsswitch.conf and /etc/passwd correctly? My /etc/nsswitch.conf says: passwd: files ldap group: files ldap shadow: files ldap My /etc/passwd ends in: +::0:0::: It appears that Redhat had a similar problem, but has a solution. I tried copying the pam_pwdb modules from a redhat box (with the libs), and subsituting it for pam_unix in /etc/pam.d/ssh and login, but no luck. Do NOT use pam_pwdb. It's evil and must die. Mike. I know nothing about it. Why is pam_pwdb evil? Since it didn't work anyways, I removed it. Now, my /etc/pam.d/ssh looks like this: auth required /lib/security/pam_nologin.so auth sufficient/lib/security/pam_ldap.so auth required /lib/security/pam_unix_auth.so try_first_pass accountsufficient /lib/security/pam_ldap.so accountrequired /lib/security/pam_unix_acct.so password required /lib/security/pam_cracklib.so password sufficient /lib/security/pam_ldap.so password required /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so use_first_pass sessionrequired /lib/security/pam_unix_session.so Thanks for your help, Brent
Re: NIS broken in debian 2.2?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brent Kearney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 10:09:03AM +, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brent Kearney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running the 'woody' distro on a PC with Linux 2.4.12-ac6. I installed the 'nis' debian package, and followed the nis.debian.howto that comes with that package. The setup went smoothly, and ypbind was able to contact the NIS server. ypcat works. However, NIS users are unable to authenticate to the system using SSH. Did you setup /etc/nsswitch.conf and /etc/passwd correctly? My /etc/nsswitch.conf says: passwd: files ldap group: files ldap shadow: files ldap Right, that's the problem. You didn't read /usr/share/doc/nis/ nis.debian.howto.gz did you, it's all spelled out in there. In particular, /etc/nsswitch.conf needs to read: passwd: compat group: compat shadow: compat netgroup: nis Mike. -- Deadlock, n.: Deceased rastaman.
Re: NIS broken in debian 2.2?
On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 08:44:49PM +, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brent Kearney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 10:09:03AM +, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brent Kearney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running the 'woody' distro on a PC with Linux 2.4.12-ac6. I installed the 'nis' debian package, and followed the nis.debian.howto that comes with that package. The setup went smoothly, and ypbind was able to contact the NIS server. ypcat works. However, NIS users are unable to authenticate to the system using SSH. Did you setup /etc/nsswitch.conf and /etc/passwd correctly? My /etc/nsswitch.conf says: passwd: files ldap group: files ldap shadow: files ldap Right, that's the problem. You didn't read /usr/share/doc/nis/ nis.debian.howto.gz did you, it's all spelled out in there. In particular, /etc/nsswitch.conf needs to read: passwd: compat group:compat shadow: compat netgroup: nis Oops; yes, in fact I did read the howto. I had since changed it to files ldap from compat. At the time of my original post, nsswitch.conf was setup as per the howto. I originally wanted to setup NIS as a temporary solution to give the users access while I worked on setting up ldap. In the mean time, I did get ldap setup, however, the same thing happened with ldap as happened with NIS. Thanks to your reply though, I realized I forgot to take the +:: entries out of /etc/passwd and /etc/group. Now that I've done so, ldap is working for authentication, and I don't need NIS :). However, as far as I can tell, NIS is indeed broken in this distro. Cheers, Brent
Re: NIS broken in debian 2.2?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brent Kearney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running the 'woody' distro on a PC with Linux 2.4.12-ac6. I installed the 'nis' debian package, and followed the nis.debian.howto that comes with that package. The setup went smoothly, and ypbind was able to contact the NIS server. ypcat works. However, NIS users are unable to authenticate to the system using SSH. Did you setup /etc/nsswitch.conf and /etc/passwd correctly? hostname:/var/log# tail -f auth.log Dec 13 17:25:52 hostname sshd[1204]: input_userauth_request: illegal user brent In other words, the system doesn't use NIS yet. hostname:/var/log# ypcat passwd | grep brent brent:CrYpT3DP4ss:1059:200::/home/foo/brent:/usr/local/bin/tcsh Okay, so ypbind works, and your NIS server is up. That doesn't mean the system is actually using it. What does 'id brent' say? It appears that Redhat had a similar problem, but has a solution. I tried copying the pam_pwdb modules from a redhat box (with the libs), and subsituting it for pam_unix in /etc/pam.d/ssh and login, but no luck. Do NOT use pam_pwdb. It's evil and must die. Mike. -- Deadlock, n.: Deceased rastaman.
NIS broken in debian 2.2?
Greetings,
I'm running the 'woody' distro on a PC with Linux 2.4.12-ac6. I
installed the 'nis' debian package, and followed the nis.debian.howto
that comes with that package. The setup went smoothly, and ypbind was
able to contact the NIS server. ypcat works. However, NIS users are
unable to authenticate to the system using SSH.
Here's what it looks like from the outside:
{myhost}(~)$ ssh hostname
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
Permission denied, please try again.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
Permission denied, please try again.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
Permission denied (publickey,password,keyboard-interactive).
Here's what it looks like from the inside:
hostname:/var/log# tail -f auth.log
Dec 13 17:25:52 hostname sshd[1204]: input_userauth_request: illegal
user brent
Dec 13 17:25:52 hostname sshd[1204]: Failed none for illegal user
brent
from 123.45.67.89 port 53110 ssh2
Dec 13 17:25:53 hostname sshd[1204]: Failed password for illegal user
brent from
123.45.67.89 port 53110 ssh2
Dec 13 17:26:20 hostname last message repeated 2 times
Dec 13 17:26:20 hostname sshd[1204]: Failed keyboard-interactive for
illegal user brent from 123.45.67.89 port 53110 ssh2
Dec 13 17:26:20 hostname last message repeated 2 times
Dec 13 17:26:20 hostname sshd[1204]: Connection closed by 123.45.67.89
hostname:/var/log# ypcat passwd | grep brent
brent:CrYpT3DP4ss:1059:200::/home/foo/brent:/usr/local/bin/tcsh
My first thought was that it was a PAM issue. Some websearches turned
up this:
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=55011
It appears that Redhat had a similar problem, but has a solution. I
tried copying the pam_pwdb modules from a redhat box (with the libs),
and subsituting it for pam_unix in /etc/pam.d/ssh and login, but no
luck.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Brent
Installation Debian 2.2 r3 / reiserfs
Bonjour à tous, Je suis un récent transfuge de RedHat vers Debian, et j'installe en ce moment une potato 2.2 r3. Souhaitant le support reiserfs, j'ai booté avec les disquettes ad hoc, et me voila parti. Malheureusement, le processus d'installation cherche à un moment 'images-1.44/reiserfs/rescue.bin' qu'il ne trouve pas. J'ai donc pris le CD d'origine, ajouté les fichier rescue.bin, root.bin et driver-1.bin dans le répertoire images-1.44/reiserfs, et regravé un autre CD avec tout ca. Ca a l'air de fonctionner à peur près, mais comme le noyau utilisé par les disquettes patchées par reiserfs est un 2.2.17 et que le noyau utilisé sur le C est un 2.2.19pre17, j'ai des problèmes, notamment en ce qui concerne l'insertion des drivers dans le kernel au cours de la première phase de l'install. Y'a-t-il moyen de faire ca plus proprement, ou dois-je me contenter de ce bricolage pour installer mes machines de prod' ? Merci Fred
Re: Installation Debian 2.2 r3 / reiserfs
Frederic Le Bastard wrote: Bonjour à tous, [...] Y'a-t-il moyen de faire ca plus proprement, ou dois-je me contenter de ce bricolage pour installer mes machines de prod' ? Je crois qu'il y a moyen de faire ça bien propre d'après la doc sur les disquettes d'amorçage Debian : http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-boot-floppy-techinfo.fr.html#s-rescue-replace-kernel Il y est également expliqué quoi faire avec les modules du Drivers.tgz. Je n'ai pas testé personnellement (pas eu l'occasion), mais ça me paraît être une bonne piste. Fred
Re: Apache 1.3.22 + Debian 2.2 + SSI PROBLEM
W Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 03:03:01PM +0100, Adam Jurkiewicz wystukał(-a): Serwer jak w temacie, apache skompilowany w taki sposob : ../configure --prefix=/usr/local/apache --enable-module=vhost_alias --sysconfdir=/etc/apache --datadir=/var/www --logfiledir=/var/log/apache --enable-module=include --enable-module=info ; 1. httpd.conf - tu mam wpis : AddType text/html .shtml AddHandler server-parsed .shtml Options +Includes uaktywniony moduł mod_include ? to tez jest DirectoryIndex index.shtml ? samo Includes moze pomoze ? skoro wszystko powyższe jest to nie mam pojecia :( -- -[ Woody - 2.2.20-ow1 ]- Why use Windows, since there is a door? --[ MujLinux.prv.pl - locked ]--
Re: (fora do topico) Tenho debian 2.2.r4
* Carlos Laviola ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 01:29:04PM -0200, Márcio de Araújo Benedito wrote: Se alguem quiser eu posso gravar e mandar pelo correio. Como nao sou comerciante, vou apenas cobrar as despesas, 5 reais por cd + o correio. E so me mandar em pvt os dados para o envio que eu mando a conta para deposito. A sua iniciativa é boa, mas 5 reais por CD? Aqui no Rio eu acho mídias a 85 centavos. Se é só pra cobrir as despesas, dava pra baixar um pouco isso, afinal se o cara pedir pra você todos os CDs do Debian e os não-oficiais, sai por 25 reais, mais as despesas com correio... É bem menos que a LinuxMall, ou outros, mas sei lá, meio carinho ainda :-) * não é rant * não é rant * não é rant * não é rant * Cara, minha experiencia no Procon (fui lan manager la por 3 anos) me ensinou que qualidade do produto e um direito a ser respeitado. Minha experiencia com midias de 80 centavos, que tambem sao encontradas facilmente aqui em BH, foi decepcionante. Assim, compro atualmente cds da sony, que estao melhores que os nipponic que usava antes. Estes cds custam 3,5 reais. O resto fica por conta da leitura otica do meu lg, que queima, segundo o manual, 2000 midias. Mas ta limpo, se alguem quiser que eu mande cds de 80 centavos, que apagam com o tempo, e so falar. Mas nao quero ouvir chramingos na minha caixa postal depois que o cd nao consegui ser lido pelo drive de cdrom (o slackware 8 que gravei numa dessas nao monta mais nem em leitor zerado!). piada Vai quer quantos? /piada Um abraco, China
(fora do topico) Tenho debian 2.2.r4
Colegas, Usando o generoso link da prefeitura, baixei os 3 cds do debian 2.2.r4, sendo que sao 2 cds numero 1, um com pacotes non-us. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l i386/ | grep iso -rw-r--r-- 667189248 nov 29 09:52 i386/binary-i386-1.iso -rw-r--r-- 678985728 nov 29 09:57 i386/binary-i386-1_NONUS.iso -rw-r--r-- 64960 nov 29 10:01 i386/binary-i386-2.iso -rw-r--r-- 489160704 nov 29 10:04 i386/binary-i386-3.iso [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Alem disso, tenho 2 cds nao oficiais com ximian-gnome 1.4, xfree4, suporte a kernel 2.4x, kde2.1, php4, non-free e outras cossitas. Isso tudo para potato. Se alguem quiser eu posso gravar e mandar pelo correio. Como nao sou comerciante, vou apenas cobrar as despesas, 5 reais por cd + o correio. E so me mandar em pvt os dados para o envio que eu mando a conta para deposito. Se alguem quiser que eu baixe algum iso, e so mandar em pvt o link que eu vejo o que posso fazer. []'s | .;'``-. | Marcio China - [EMAIL PROTECTED] | : :' : | Debian GNU/Linux user 186538 | ; ; ,' | Empresa de Informática e Informação | `. `'` | do Município de Belo Horizonte |`-._ | Prodabel S/A
Re: (fora do topico) Tenho debian 2.2.r4
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:29:04 -0200 Márcio de Araújo Benedito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Colegas, Usando o generoso link da prefeitura, baixei os 3 cds do debian 2.2.r4, sendo que sao 2 cds numero 1, um com pacotes non-us. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l i386/ | grep iso -rw-r--r-- 667189248 nov 29 09:52 i386/binary-i386-1.iso -rw-r--r-- 678985728 nov 29 09:57 i386/binary-i386-1_NONUS.iso -rw-r--r-- 64960 nov 29 10:01 i386/binary-i386-2.iso -rw-r--r-- 489160704 nov 29 10:04 i386/binary-i386-3.iso [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Alem disso, tenho 2 cds nao oficiais com ximian-gnome 1.4, xfree4, suporte a kernel 2.4x, kde2.1, php4, non-free e outras cossitas. Isso tudo para potato. Se alguem quiser eu posso gravar e mandar pelo correio. Como nao sou comerciante, vou apenas cobrar as despesas, 5 reais por cd + o correio. E so me mandar em pvt os dados para o envio que eu mando a conta para deposito. Se alguem quiser que eu baixe algum iso, e so mandar em pvt o link que eu vejo o que posso fazer. muito legal seu interesse em colaborar dessa forma, parabéns! =) talvez você quisesse baixar uns cds do hurd: ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-cd/unofficial/hurd/ não sei se vou querer um ainda, mas quem sabe? []s! -- Gustavo Noronha Silva - kov http://www.metainfo.org/kov *-* -+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+-+ | .''`. | Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org | | : :' : + Debian BR...: http://debian-br.cipsga.org.br+ | `. `'` + Q: Why did the chicken cross the road? + | `-| A: Upstream's decision. -- hmh | *-* -+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+-+
Re: (fora do topico) Tenho debian 2.2.r4
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 01:29:04PM -0200, Márcio de Araújo Benedito wrote: Se alguem quiser eu posso gravar e mandar pelo correio. Como nao sou comerciante, vou apenas cobrar as despesas, 5 reais por cd + o correio. E so me mandar em pvt os dados para o envio que eu mando a conta para deposito. A sua iniciativa é boa, mas 5 reais por CD? Aqui no Rio eu acho mídias a 85 centavos. Se é só pra cobrir as despesas, dava pra baixar um pouco isso, afinal se o cara pedir pra você todos os CDs do Debian e os não-oficiais, sai por 25 reais, mais as despesas com correio... É bem menos que a LinuxMall, ou outros, mas sei lá, meio carinho ainda :-) * não é rant * não é rant * não é rant * não é rant * -- _ _ _| _ _ | _ . _ | _ Who controls the past, controls the future. (_(_|| |(_)_) |(_|\/|(_)|(_| Who controls the present, controls the past. http://laviola.org icq #981913 -- George Orwell, 1984 Where do you want to quit HavenCo today?
Need rescue.bin and root.bin for Debian 2.2 r0
Hello Friends from Debian i got Debian 2.2 r0 Potato but I can´t get rescue.bin and root.bin from this CD. I would like you send me rescue.bin and root.bin for this version: 2.2 r0 Potato in order I can install my linux. Thank you. This is my mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] o [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Edgar Brito.
