RE: Dual-Monitor help

2012-09-18 Thread Nelson Green
Hmm... A real serial terminal like a VT100? (I actually still own a vt102. But it is noisy and slow. Mostly it is my footrest these days.) Wow, I haven't touched a real VT100 in many years. But I used to service them, so I remember them quite well. What I meant here is the ttys that are

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-09-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 03:16:55AM +0200, lee wrote: Nelson Green nelsongree...@hotmail.com writes: have no choice but to run a GUI of some type. I would like to learn to do so with a minimal footprint if you would be willing to share some tips. I find my primary use of the GUI is email,

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-09-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Nelson Green wrote: Hi Bob, You bring up an interesting point. I am running XFCE, and that is because the limited amount of research I did into window managers told me it was the simplest complete solution, and I did not have time to learn how to configure a simple system. It all depends

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-09-15 Thread lee
Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com writes: I used FVWM since somewhere in the early 1990's specifically because it existed as a fully functional window manager that wasn't changing. It was stable over decades. Think of the Ubuntu Unity transition, the KDE 3-4 transition, the GNOME 2-3 transition,

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-09-15 Thread Bob Proulx
lee wrote: Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com writes: For email I use the 'mutt' mail user agent. It is extremely fast. It ... I totally agree :) And you're definitely going to love gnus! I've used mutt for 15 years or so and never could find anything better --- until I tried gnus. Gnus is

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-09-15 Thread lee
Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com writes: lee wrote: Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com writes: For email I use the 'mutt' mail user agent. It is extremely fast. It ... I totally agree :) And you're definitely going to love gnus! I've used mutt for 15 years or so and never could find anything

RE: Dual-Monitor help

2012-09-14 Thread Nelson Green
From: l...@yun.yagibdah.de To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Dual-Monitor help Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 03:16:55 +0200 Nelson Green nelsongree...@hotmail.com writes: have no choice but to run a GUI of some type. I would like to learn

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-09-14 Thread lee
Nelson Green nelsongree...@hotmail.com writes: From: l...@yun.yagibdah.de To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Dual-Monitor help Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 03:16:55 +0200 Nelson Green nelsongree...@hotmail.com writes: have no choice

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-09-12 Thread lee
Nelson Green nelsongree...@hotmail.com writes: have no choice but to run a GUI of some type. I would like to learn to do so with a minimal footprint if you would be willing to share some tips. I find my primary use of the GUI is email, the web apps I have to support, and Guayadeque for my

RE: Dual-Monitor help

2012-09-11 Thread Nelson Green
It is something that Debian made up. It sounds better than saying large set of heavy and bloated desktop programs. :-) I don't run a desktop session like GNOME or KDE. Nor LXDE or XFCE either for that matter. I, and you too apparently, only run the X window system with a simple window

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-31 Thread Bob Proulx
The Wanderer wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: The Wanderer wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: The 'x-session-manager' is a Debian package specific symlink handle that always points to the currently configured window manager. I guess I did say window manager there. That isn't precisely correct. I should

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-30 Thread The Wanderer
On 08/29/2012 02:13 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: The Wanderer wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: exec x-session-manager The 'x-session-manager' is a Debian package specific symlink handle that always points to the currently configured window manager. Isn't that 'x-window-manager'? At least, I don't

[solved] RE: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-30 Thread Nelson Green
Nelson Green wrote: So, my final question is, where is my X11 start-up file? There are several different ways to start up X11. Probably the simplest for you is to create a $HOME/.xsession file. The xdm/gdm/kdm/lightdm processes will use it if the file exists. Create it with the following

RE: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-29 Thread Nelson Green
Then for batch mode automated startup I have the following in my X1 startup file. if xrandr --query | grep -q HDMI;; then xrandr --auto --output HDMI --right-of HDMI fi Hi Bob, I've almost gotten everything working, but one question remains. First, I ended up removing the two Quadro

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-29 Thread Bob Proulx
Nelson Green wrote: So, my final question is, where is my X11 start-up file? There are several different ways to start up X11. Probably the simplest for you is to create a $HOME/.xsession file. The xdm/gdm/kdm/lightdm processes will use it if the file exists. Create it with the following

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-29 Thread The Wanderer
On 08/29/2012 12:29 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Nelson Green wrote: So, my final question is, where is my X11 start-up file? There are several different ways to start up X11. Probably the simplest for you is to create a $HOME/.xsession file. The xdm/gdm/kdm/lightdm processes will use it if the

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-29 Thread Bob Proulx
The Wanderer wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: exec x-session-manager The 'x-session-manager' is a Debian package specific symlink handle that always points to the currently configured window manager. Isn't that 'x-window-manager'? At least, I don't have an 'x-session-manager' on my system

RE: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-27 Thread Nelson Green
Also, consider using a backported kernel (with xorg and mesa) instead a self-compiled one. I am certainly willing to try that. Thanks for the suggestion. I would center first in getting the correct driver to be loaded and then go with the dual card setup. Good luck then and report back

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-25 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:22:26 -0500, Nelson Green wrote: (...) Some unordered/random/quick thoughts... 1/ There seems to be a problem with the driver. As you are using Squeeze with nvidia cards, the driver to load should be either nouveau or nv but no fbdev. My will guess is that the VGA

RE: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-24 Thread Nelson Green
Nelson, Do you have a xorg.conf file or do you let X sort it all out itself? I noticed from your xrandr posting, that only one resolution is defined so maybe it's hard coded. I run without a conf file X seems to pull everything correctly for my hardware. I am still kinda green at

RE: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-24 Thread Nelson Green
It is possible that the 'nouveau' driver doesn't do dual monitors with the Quadro 600 cards. i am not to good with these things, looks like it tries 'nouveau, vesa FB, and fails. , I do run a Quadro dual port card, I use the 'nvidia' driver, the xorg drivers do not work with my setup.

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-24 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:13:36 -0500, Nelson Green wrote: I have been trying to get a dual monitor set-up working, and am getting no where with this, so it is time to request help. I have a Dell Precision T5500 with dual video cards, and I would like to have one large screen spread across the

RE: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-24 Thread Nelson Green
Unfortunately, lxrandr only shows the single monitor. Another issue I have is nothing from xrandr nor lxrandr shows an output interface. If I could get that information I might at least have a place to start. OK, I feel dumb. I was just setting up a VM, and the output of xrandr is similar.

RE: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-24 Thread Nelson Green
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org From: noela...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Dual-Monitor help Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 17:20:04 + On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:13:36 -0500, Nelson Green wrote: I have been trying to get a dual monitor set-up working

RE: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-24 Thread Nelson Green
From: nelsongree...@hotmail.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: RE: Dual-Monitor help Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:16:03 -0500 Unfortunately, lxrandr only shows the single monitor. Another issue I have is nothing from xrandr nor lxrandr

RE: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-23 Thread Nelson Green
Nelson Green wrote: I have a Dell Precision T5500 with dual video cards, and I would like to have one large screen spread across the two monitors. I usually do this with a single graphics card. So my suggestion might not be useful to you. But... I am not sure where to start. One

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-23 Thread Shane Johnson
Nelson, Did you install the driver package? Either xserver-xorg-video-nouveau or xserver-xorg-video-nvidia (open and closed driver respectively) from apt or download and installed from Nvidia's site? Shane On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Nelson Green nelsongree...@hotmail.comwrote: Nelson

RE: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-23 Thread Nelson Green
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 14:32:59 -0600 Subject: Re: Dual-Monitor help From: s...@rasmussenequipment.com To: nelsongree...@hotmail.com CC: b...@proulx.com; debian-user@lists.debian.org Nelson, Did you install the driver package? Either xserver

RE: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-23 Thread Nelson Green
Nelson, Did you install the driver package? Either xserver-xorg-video-nouveau or xserver-xorg-video-nvidia (open and closed driver respectively) from apt or download and installed from Nvidia's site? Shane I sure did: $ dpkg -l | grep nouveau | cut -d -f 3 libdrm-nouveau1

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-23 Thread Shane Johnson
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Nelson Green nelsongree...@hotmail.comwrote: Nelson, Did you install the driver package? Either xserver-xorg-video-nouveau or xserver-xorg-video-nvidia (open and closed driver respectively) from apt or download and installed from Nvidia's site?

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-23 Thread Greg Madden
On Thursday 23 August 2012 1:41:37 pm Nelson Green wrote: Nelson, Did you install the driver package? Either xserver-xorg-video-nouveau or xserver-xorg-video-nvidia (open and closed driver respectively) from apt or download and installed from Nvidia's site? Shane I sure

Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-22 Thread Nelson Green
Good evening all, I have been trying to get a dual monitor set-up working, and am getting no where with this, so it is time to request help. I have a Dell Precision T5500 with dual video cards, and I would like to have one large screen spread across the two monitors. The graphics cards are

Re: Dual-Monitor help

2012-08-22 Thread Bob Proulx
Nelson Green wrote: I have a Dell Precision T5500 with dual video cards, and I would like to have one large screen spread across the two monitors. I usually do this with a single graphics card. So my suggestion might not be useful to you. But... I am not sure where to start. One thing I