Anaconda-navigator installation problems

2024-03-22 Thread Gary L. Roach
Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 12 KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.5 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.103.0 Qt Version: 5.15.8 Kernel Version: 6.1.0-18-amd64 (64-bit) Graphics Platform: Wayland Processors: 4 × AMD FX(tm)-4350 Quad-Core Processor Memory: 31.2 GiB of RAM Graphics Processor: AMD CAICOS

Re: balenaEtcher installation problems

2023-11-10 Thread Gary L. Roach
On 11/9/23 18:22, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 8:47 PM Gary L. Roach wrote: Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 12 KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.5 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.103.0 Qt Version: 5.15.8 Kernel Version: 6.1.0-13-amd64 (64-bit) Graphics Platform: Wayland Processors: 4 ×

Re: balenaEtcher installation problems

2023-11-09 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 8:47 PM Gary L. Roach wrote: > > Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 12 > KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.5 > KDE Frameworks Version: 5.103.0 > Qt Version: 5.15.8 > Kernel Version: 6.1.0-13-amd64 (64-bit) > Graphics Platform: Wayland > Processors: 4 × AMD FX(tm)-4350 Quad-Core

balenaEtcher installation problems

2023-11-09 Thread Gary L. Roach
Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 12 KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.5 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.103.0 Qt Version: 5.15.8 Kernel Version: 6.1.0-13-amd64 (64-bit) Graphics Platform: Wayland Processors: 4 × AMD FX(tm)-4350 Quad-Core Processor Memory: 31.2 GiB of RAM Graphics Processor: AMD CAICOS

Re: Docker installation problems [Solved]

2021-07-08 Thread Gary L. Roach
I reinstalled using the docker.com instructions and it works. I also installed Portainer. It also works. I appreciate all of the help. Now all I have to do is learn to use it. Thanks again. Gary R On 7/8/21 10:44 AM, Alex Mestiashvili wrote: On 7/8/21 6:48 PM, Gary L. Roach wrote: On

Re: Docker installation problems

2021-07-08 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
On 7/8/21 6:48 PM, Gary L. Roach wrote: On 7/7/21 4:43 PM, IL Ka wrote: I suspect that something might be wrong with the /etc/apt/daemon.json file but am not sure what. try # dockerd https://docs.docker.com/config/daemon/#start-the-daemon-manually

Re: Docker installation problems

2021-07-08 Thread john doe
On 7/8/2021 6:48 PM, Gary L. Roach wrote: On 7/7/21 4:43 PM, IL Ka wrote:     I suspect that something might be wrong with the /etc/apt/daemon.json     file but am not sure what. try # dockerd https://docs.docker.com/config/daemon/#start-the-daemon-manually

Re: Docker installation problems

2021-07-08 Thread IL Ka
> > failed to create API server: Could not load X509 key pair (cert: > "/var/docker/server.pem", key: "/var/docker/serverkey.pem"): open > /var/docker/server.pem: no such file or directory > > On my system the /var/docker directory doesn't exist. Further, server.pem > doesn't exist anywhere on my

Re: Docker installation problems

2021-07-08 Thread Gary L. Roach
On 7/7/21 4:43 PM, IL Ka wrote: I suspect that something might be wrong with the /etc/apt/daemon.json file but am not sure what. try # dockerd https://docs.docker.com/config/daemon/#start-the-daemon-manually Do you

Re: Docker installation problems

2021-07-07 Thread IL Ka
> > I suspect that something might be wrong with the /etc/apt/daemon.json > file but am not sure what. > > try # dockerd https://docs.docker.com/config/daemon/#start-the-daemon-manually Do you see any errors?

Docker installation problems

2021-07-07 Thread Gary L. Roach
Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 10 KDE Plasma Version: 5.14.5 Qt Version: 5.11.3 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.54.0 Kernel Version: 4.19.0-17-amd64 OS Type: 64-bit Processors: 4 × AMD FX(tm)-4350 Quad-Core Processor Memory: 15.6 GiB of RAM Hi All, I'm still having installation problems

Re: Status update {Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems}

2021-03-10 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 04:26:06AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/10/2021 03:45 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Ma, 09 mar 21, 14:35:54, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > On 03/09/2021 07:00 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > On Ma, 09 mar 21, 06:32:33, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > On

Re: Status update {Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems}

2021-03-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 10 mar 21, 08:49:06, Richard Owlett wrote: > > Looking at /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.Debian prompts me to ask: > "What logs might be created when attempting to run a netinst.iso?" The Debian Installation Guide should have more information on the Installer's logs and where they are to

Re: Status update {Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems}

2021-03-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/10/2021 07:29 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 10 mar 21, 04:26:06, Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/10/2021 03:45 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: The boot process has three major stages. 1. POST: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-on_self-test 2. Bootloader (grub, etc.) 3. Operating System (in

Re: Status update {Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems}

2021-03-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 10 mar 21, 04:26:06, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/10/2021 03:45 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > The boot process has three major stages. > > > > 1. POST: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-on_self-test > > 2. Bootloader (grub, etc.) > > 3. Operating System (in this case Debian) > > >

Re: Status update {Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems}

2021-03-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/10/2021 03:45 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 09 mar 21, 14:35:54, Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/09/2021 07:00 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 09 mar 21, 06:32:33, Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/08/2021 10:18 AM, songbird wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: ... before chasing down this rabbit

Re: Status update {Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems}

2021-03-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 09 mar 21, 14:35:54, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/09/2021 07:00 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Ma, 09 mar 21, 06:32:33, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > On 03/08/2021 10:18 AM, songbird wrote: > > > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > > > > before chasing down this rabbit hole, see

Re: Status update {Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems}

2021-03-09 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/09/2021 07:00 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 09 mar 21, 06:32:33, Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/08/2021 10:18 AM, songbird wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: ... before chasing down this rabbit hole, see if there is an upgrade for your current kernel on the debian backports site (for your

Re: Status update {Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems}

2021-03-09 Thread Joe
On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 15:00:07 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 09 mar 21, 06:32:33, Richard Owlett wrote: > > On 03/08/2021 10:18 AM, songbird wrote: > > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > ... > > > > > > before chasing down this rabbit hole, see if there is an > > > upgrade for your current

Re: Status update {Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems}

2021-03-09 Thread Joe
On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 14:57:47 +0200 Anssi Saari wrote: > Richard Owlett writes: > > > The more I think about my observed symptoms, it would seem logical > > to be kernel related. > > > > If the Linkzone is physically connected when PC is turned on, the > > boot process will hang until the

Re: Status update {Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems}

2021-03-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 09 mar 21, 06:32:33, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/08/2021 10:18 AM, songbird wrote: > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > ... > > > > before chasing down this rabbit hole, see if there is an > > upgrade for your current kernel on the debian backports > > site (for your processor and distribution

Re: Status update {Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems}

2021-03-09 Thread Anssi Saari
Richard Owlett writes: > The more I think about my observed symptoms, it would seem logical to > be kernel related. > > If the Linkzone is physically connected when PC is turned on, the boot > process will hang until the Linkzone is disconnected. I have a guess then. Maybe the Linkzone comes up

Re: Status update {Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems}

2021-03-09 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/08/2021 10:18 AM, songbird wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: ... before chasing down this rabbit hole, see if there is an upgrade for your current kernel on the debian backports site (for your processor and distribution type). i just had an issue with a new device not being recognized and

Re: Status update {Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems}

2021-03-08 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote: ... > If it's a kernel issue, I'll just wait for Debian 11. I had essentially > tried the 10.8 netinst to get instant gratification of moving from 32 to > 64 bits in one day rather than one week. certainly understandable. :) hope it works well for you! songbird

Re: Status update {Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems}

2021-03-08 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/08/2021 10:18 AM, songbird wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: ... before chasing down this rabbit hole, see if there is an upgrade for your current kernel on the debian backports site (for your processor and distribution type). i just had an issue with a new device not being recognized and

Re: Status update {Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems}

2021-03-08 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote: ... before chasing down this rabbit hole, see if there is an upgrade for your current kernel on the debian backports site (for your processor and distribution type). i just had an issue with a new device not being recognized and updated my kernel (for stretch) and it worked

Re: Status update {Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems}

2021-03-08 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Mar 08, 2021 at 06:06:17AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/03/2021 09:22 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I've one fine machine running i386 flavor of Debian 9.13 . > > I've wish to install 64 bit flavor on a second machine. > > debian-10.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso was successfully downloaded

Status update {Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems}

2021-03-08 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/03/2021 09:22 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I've one fine machine running i386 flavor of Debian 9.13 . I've wish to install 64 bit flavor on a second machine. debian-10.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso was successfully downloaded & saved. It was copied to a USB flash drive and installation attempted.

Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems

2021-03-06 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 21:47:25 + Joe wrote: ... > If it's user-installed non-free firmware for network interfaces, that is > the state of manufacturing today: we're back to Winmodems and you're > stuck with it. I have one of the last netbooks to come with an Ethernet > port. A USB-Ethernet

Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems

2021-03-05 Thread David Wright
On Mon 01 Feb 2021 at 06:46:40 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > I have just installed Debian 10.7 to my Lenovo T510 Thinkpad having > copied debian-10.7.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso to a flash drive [the machine is > intentionally isolated from the internet]. So you have a 10.7 amd64 DVD available. On Wed

Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems

2021-03-05 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 21:47:25 + Joe wrote: > In the beginning, the problem was inability to write an .iso to a USB > stick or to use Google. Since then, things seem to have evolved. There > are too many posts in this thread to read each one of yours to see > what is currently the problem, and

Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems

2021-03-05 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/05/2021 03:47 PM, Joe wrote: On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 15:12:50 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: Please PLEASE *PLEASE* read what I *ACTUALLY* wrote !!! *BEFORE* replying to what you WISH I had written ! In the beginning, the problem was inability to write an .iso to a USB stick or to use

Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems

2021-03-05 Thread Joe
On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 15:12:50 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: > Please PLEASE *PLEASE* read what I *ACTUALLY* wrote > !!! *BEFORE* replying to what you WISH I had written ! > > In the beginning, the problem was inability to write an .iso to a USB stick or to use Google. Since then, things seem

Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems

2021-03-05 Thread Richard Owlett
Please PLEASE *PLEASE* read what I *ACTUALLY* wrote !!! *BEFORE* replying to what you WISH I had written !

Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems

2021-03-05 Thread David Christensen
On 3/5/21 4:09 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/04/2021 04:46 PM, David Christensen wrote: 2. I _actively_ abhor activating *any* WiFi device. [long OT story] My system currently has [from image of DVD1]:   1. Debian 10.0 with minimum default configuration of MATE. That is a security

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: Trusting trust [was: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems]

2021-03-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 05 March 2021 03:14:51 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Mar 05, 2021 at 01:33:14AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > AIUI compilers have been studied so extensively that their > > > production is largely automated. > > > > Oh, no. There are some parts we know how to automate, but by

Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems

2021-03-05 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/04/2021 04:46 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 3/4/21 4:27 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: What I do now is make yet another attempt to convey my problem. My universe consists of:    1. myself.    2. a laptop onto which I wish to install Debian using a netinst.iso .    3. an Alcatel Linkzone

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: Trusting trust [was: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems]

2021-03-05 Thread tomas
On Fri, Mar 05, 2021 at 01:33:14AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > AIUI compilers have been studied so extensively that their production is > > largely automated. > > Oh, no. There are some parts we know how to automate, but by and large > it's all hand written code. :-)

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: Trusting trust [was: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems]

2021-03-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
> AIUI compilers have been studied so extensively that their production is > largely automated. Oh, no. There are some parts we know how to automate, but by and large it's all hand written code. > Create an EBNF specification, feed it through a tool > chain (lex, yacc, cc, as, ld, etc.), and

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: Trusting trust [was: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems]

2021-03-04 Thread David Christensen
On 3/4/21 9:28 PM, David Christensen wrote: (One more step of 'cT = cT(a)' may be required Correction: cT = cT(T) David

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: Trusting trust [was: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems]

2021-03-04 Thread David Christensen
On 3/4/21 6:50 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: The abstract states: "In the DDC technique, source code is compiled twice: once with a second (trusted) compiler (using the source code of the compiler’s parent), and then the compiler source code is compiled using the result of the first compilation.

[OFFTOPIC] Re: Trusting trust [was: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems]

2021-03-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
> The abstract states: > > "In the DDC technique, source code is compiled twice: once with a > second (trusted) compiler (using the source code of the compiler’s > parent), and then the compiler source code is compiled using the > result of the first compilation. If the result is

Re: Trusting trust [was: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems]

2021-03-04 Thread Joe
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 23:34:25 +0100 wrote: > > Yes, but... letting your compiler plant bugs into someone else's > software to phone back to *you*... chutzpah. Had to be Microsoft. > > Not necessarily, nearly all writers of Windows software believe that they own your computer while their

Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems

2021-03-04 Thread David Christensen
On 3/4/21 4:27 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: What I do now is make yet another attempt to convey my problem. My universe consists of:   1. myself.   2. a laptop onto which I wish to install Debian using a netinst.iso .   3. an Alcatel Linkzone sold me by T-Mobile, my ISP. T-Mobile

Re: Trusting trust [was: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems]

2021-03-04 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 05:18:38PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > The part that I find more interesting is the "emergent evil" thing. > > Somehow the techies found that it is OK to do that and they did, > > in the best of their intentions. > > I'm not surprised: it's quite common to want to get

Re: Trusting trust [was: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems]

2021-03-04 Thread David Christensen
On 3/4/21 12:43 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Read David A. Wheeler's work [1] and put yourself in the 2010s :-) > [1] https://dwheeler.com/trusting-trust/ The abstract states: "In the DDC technique, source code is compiled twice: once with a second (trusted) compiler (using the

Re: Trusting trust [was: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems]

2021-03-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
> The part that I find more interesting is the "emergent evil" thing. > Somehow the techies found that it is OK to do that and they did, > in the best of their intentions. I'm not surprised: it's quite common to want to get some kind of information about how your program performs (i.e. things

Re: Trusting trust [was: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems]

2021-03-04 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 19:05:38 +0100 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 11:16:25AM -0500, Celejar wrote: ... > > I know I can't avoid the risk > > entirely, but this is one of the reasons I try hard to limit my use of > > software to stuff in the repos. I understand it's no magic

Re: Trusting trust [was: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems]

2021-03-04 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 11:16:25AM -0500, Celejar wrote: [...] > > - Sometime 2017 [1], Microsoft put out a version of Visual Studio > > which baked "phone home" functionality into its compiled "products". [...] > > I call this pattern "Emergent Evil". > > Outrageous, certainly - this

Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems

2021-03-04 Thread David Wright
On Thu 04 Mar 2021 at 06:27:30 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/03/2021 09:22 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I've one fine machine running i386 flavor of Debian 9.13 . > > I've wish to install 64 bit flavor on a second machine. > > debian-10.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso was successfully downloaded &

OT: Bathroom scales (was: Re: Trusting trust [was: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems])

2021-03-04 Thread rhkramer
Hey, bathroom scales are something (I think) I am qualified to talk about, at least from the POV of a user ;-) On Thursday, March 04, 2021 10:05:29 AM Joe wrote: > On a rather smaller scale, my electronic bathroom scale has a feature > whereby if a person gets back onto the scale within thirty

Re: Installation problems

2021-03-04 Thread Felix Miata
Richard Owlett composed on 2021-03-04 05:54 (UTC-0600): > David Christensen wrote: >> I think 90% of the OP's problems stem from the fact that he does not >> have good Internet service. > I'm not aware of any

Re: Trusting trust [was: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems]

2021-03-04 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 16:14:08 +0100 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 09:21:46AM -0500, Celejar wrote: > > On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 14:17:59 +0100 > > wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 08:10:45AM -0500, Celejar wrote: > > > > On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 09:41:13 + > > > > Joe wrote:

Re: Trusting trust [was: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems]

2021-03-04 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 15:05:29 + Joe wrote: > On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 08:10:45 -0500 > Celejar wrote: > > > On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 09:41:13 + > > Joe wrote: ... > > > Indeed. The new heartbeat/data return function in OpenSSL, itself > > > the core of much Open Source security, was suggested by

Re: Trusting trust [was: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems]

2021-03-04 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 09:21:46AM -0500, Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 14:17:59 +0100 > wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 08:10:45AM -0500, Celejar wrote: > > > On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 09:41:13 + > > > Joe wrote: > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > Undoubtedly. But there is also no doubt

Re: Trusting trust [was: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems]

2021-03-04 Thread Joe
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 08:10:45 -0500 Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 09:41:13 + > Joe wrote: > > ... > > > Undoubtedly. But there is also no doubt that gcc and every other > > serious compiler in the West has been compromised. Why would they > > *not* be? > > Do you have any evidence

Re: Trusting trust [was: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems]

2021-03-04 Thread Celejar
oor? > Assunto: Re: Trusting trust [was: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems] > De: to...@tuxteam.de > Enviado em: 4 de março de 2021 10:18 > Para: cele...@gmail.com > Cópia: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > > > On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 08:10:45AM -0500, Celejar wrote: &g

Re: Trusting trust [was: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems]

2021-03-04 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 14:17:59 +0100 wrote: > On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 08:10:45AM -0500, Celejar wrote: > > On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 09:41:13 + > > Joe wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > Undoubtedly. But there is also no doubt that gcc and every other > > > serious compiler in the West has been

Re: Trusting trust [was: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems]

2021-03-04 Thread Leandro neto
I discover it on October 2019 nobody listen to me Enviado via UOL Mail Assunto: Re: Trusting trust [was: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems] De: to...@tuxteam.de Enviado em: 4 de março de 2021 10:18 Para: cele...@gmail.com Cópia: debian-user

Re: Trusting trust [was: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems]

2021-03-04 Thread tomas
On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 08:10:45AM -0500, Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 09:41:13 + > Joe wrote: > > ... > > > Undoubtedly. But there is also no doubt that gcc and every other > > serious compiler in the West has been compromised. Why would they *not* > > be? > > Do you have any

Re: Trusting trust [was: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems]

2021-03-04 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 09:41:13 + Joe wrote: ... > Undoubtedly. But there is also no doubt that gcc and every other > serious compiler in the West has been compromised. Why would they *not* > be? Do you have any evidence for this, or is it just your assumption, because "why would they not be?"

Re: Installation problems

2021-03-04 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/04/2021 06:27 AM, Tixy wrote: On Thu, 2021-03-04 at 05:54 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: 3. an Alcatel Linkzone sold me by T-Mobile, my ISP. T-Mobile erroneously ASSUMES that *all* customers will use it as a WiFi Hotspot to create a LAN of up to 15 devices. I,

Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems

2021-03-04 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/03/2021 09:22 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I've one fine machine running i386 flavor of Debian 9.13 . I've wish to install 64 bit flavor on a second machine. debian-10.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso was successfully downloaded & saved. It was copied to a USB flash drive and installation attempted.

Re: Installation problems

2021-03-04 Thread Tixy
On Thu, 2021-03-04 at 05:54 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: >3. an Alcatel Linkzone sold me by T-Mobile, my ISP. > T-Mobile erroneously ASSUMES that *all* customers will use it as a > WiFi Hotspot to create a LAN of up to 15 devices. > I, however, disable the WiFi as that

Re: Installation problems

2021-03-04 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/03/2021 03:53 PM, Joe wrote: On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 13:38:20 -0800 David Christensen wrote: On 3/3/21 7:36 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/03/2021 08:35 AM, David Christensen wrote: On 3/3/21 1:24 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: 2. I'm pushing at my data cap {including unused from previous

Re: Trusting trust [was: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems]

2021-03-04 Thread mick crane
On 2021-03-04 09:41, Joe wrote: Of course. Any externally-supplied network device is inherently untrusted. It is unwise to give any IoT device access to your network, it is fail-safe to assume that every such device reports back as much as possible to some Chinese company. Most certainly. The

Re: Trusting trust [was: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems]

2021-03-04 Thread Joe
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 09:43:57 +0100 wrote: > On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 05:42:36PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > > [...] > > > So, you designed, built, and programmed your "single other machine" > > using machines that you designed, built [...] > > This is disingenuous. > > The whole game

Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems

2021-03-04 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 11:08:40PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > https://users.ece.cmu.edu/~ganger/712.fall02/papers/p761-thompson.pdf > > Not sure how this is relevant. This is like talking about the security > of locks when the other guy is openly telling you he has a copy of > the key.

Trusting trust [was: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems]

2021-03-04 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 05:42:36PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: [...] > So, you designed, built, and programmed your "single other machine" > using machines that you designed, built [...] This is disingenuous. The whole game is about trust. I trust gcc more than I trust MSVC. That may be a

Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems

2021-03-03 Thread Stefan Monnier
> https://users.ece.cmu.edu/~ganger/712.fall02/papers/p761-thompson.pdf Not sure how this is relevant. This is like talking about the security of locks when the other guy is openly telling you he has a copy of the key. Stefan

Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems

2021-03-03 Thread David Christensen
On 3/3/21 6:43 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: Or, get Internet service that includes a modem/ gateway with an Ethernet port. This is probably the best answer in the long run. Unless that modem/gateway is under the control of the ISP, in which case you're fundamentally inviting your ISP onto your

Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems

2021-03-03 Thread Stefan Monnier
>>> Or, get Internet service that includes a modem/ gateway with an Ethernet >>> port. This is probably the best answer in the long run. >> Unless that modem/gateway is under the control of the ISP, in which case >> you're fundamentally inviting your ISP onto your local network, IOW into >> your

Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems

2021-03-03 Thread David Christensen
On 3/3/21 1:53 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: Or, get Internet service that includes a modem/ gateway with an Ethernet port. This is probably the best answer in the long run. Unless that modem/gateway is under the control of the ISP, in which case you're fundamentally inviting your ISP onto your

Re: Installation problems

2021-03-03 Thread Joe
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 13:38:20 -0800 David Christensen wrote: > On 3/3/21 7:36 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > On 03/03/2021 08:35 AM, David Christensen wrote: > >> On 3/3/21 1:24 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> > >>> 2. I'm pushing at my data cap {including unused from previous > >>> months}. >

Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems

2021-03-03 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Or, get Internet service that includes a modem/ gateway with an Ethernet > port. This is probably the best answer in the long run. Unless that modem/gateway is under the control of the ISP, in which case you're fundamentally inviting your ISP onto your local network, IOW into your private

Re: Installation problems

2021-03-03 Thread David Christensen
On 3/3/21 7:36 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/03/2021 08:35 AM, David Christensen wrote: On 3/3/21 1:24 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: 2. I'm pushing at my data cap {including unused from previous months}. Have you considered setting up a local package proxy server?  I used approx(8) in the

Re: PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems

2021-03-03 Thread David Christensen
On 3/3/21 7:22 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I've one fine machine running i386 flavor of Debian 9.13 . I've wish to install 64 bit flavor on a second machine. debian-10.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso was successfully downloaded & saved. It was copied to a USB flash drive and installation attempted. Only did

Re: Installation problems

2021-03-03 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/03/2021 08:35 AM, David Christensen wrote: On 3/3/21 1:24 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: 2. I'm pushing at my data cap {including unused from previous months}. Have you considered setting up a local package proxy server?  I used approx(8) in the past, and believe there are other choices:

Re: Installation problems

2021-03-03 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 06:35:00 -0800 David Christensen wrote: > On 3/3/21 1:24 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > 2. I'm pushing at my data cap {including unused from previous months}. > > Have you considered setting up a local package proxy server? I used > approx(8) in the past, and believe

PARTIAL DIAGNOSIS of Installation problems

2021-03-03 Thread Richard Owlett
I've one fine machine running i386 flavor of Debian 9.13 . I've wish to install 64 bit flavor on a second machine. debian-10.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso was successfully downloaded & saved. It was copied to a USB flash drive and installation attempted. Only did minimal install as I could not connect to

Re: Installation problems

2021-03-03 Thread David Christensen
On 3/3/21 1:24 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: 2. I'm pushing at my data cap {including unused from previous months}. Have you considered setting up a local package proxy server? I used approx(8) in the past, and believe there are other choices: https://packages.debian.org/buster/approx

Re: Installation problems

2021-03-03 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/03/2021 03:41 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/02/2021 08:39 PM, David Wright wrote: On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 15:42:27 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/02/2021 02:31 PM, Brian wrote: On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 14:09:18 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: I've one fine machine running i386 flavor

Re: Installation problems

2021-03-03 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/02/2021 08:39 PM, David Wright wrote: On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 15:42:27 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/02/2021 02:31 PM, Brian wrote: On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 14:09:18 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: I've one fine machine running i386 flavor of Debian 9.13 . I've wish to install 64 bit

Re: Installation problems

2021-03-03 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/02/2021 04:50 PM, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 3/3/21 08:42, Richard Owlett wrote: Any one know exactly what I need to add that would normally just be silently installed. I just took it as part of "universal" in USB. I'd suggest using a live non-free ISO and then install any necessary

Re: Installation problems

2021-03-02 Thread David Wright
On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 15:42:27 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/02/2021 02:31 PM, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 14:09:18 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > I've one fine machine running i386 flavor of Debian 9.13 . > > > I've wish to install 64 bit flavor on a second machine. >

Re: Installation problems

2021-03-02 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/02/2021 07:29 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/02/2021 04:13 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 03:42:27PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/02/2021 02:31 PM, Brian wrote: On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 14:09:18 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: I've one fine machine running i386

Re: Installation problems

2021-03-02 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/02/2021 04:13 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 03:42:27PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/02/2021 02:31 PM, Brian wrote: On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 14:09:18 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: I've one fine machine running i386 flavor of Debian 9.13 . I've wish to install 64

Re: Installation problems

2021-03-02 Thread Brian
On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 22:21:42 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 01:16:41PM -0800, Weaver wrote: > > On 03-03-2021 06:31, Brian wrote: > > > On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 14:09:18 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > >> I've one fine machine running i386 flavor of Debian 9.13 .

Re: Installation problems

2021-03-02 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 3/3/21 07:31, Brian wrote: Just write the ISO there with dd +1 I proved my back-up worked one day by dd of=/dev/sda maybe ignore cp in this scenario, PLEASE. -- Keith Bainbridge ke1thozgro...@gmx.com

Re: Installation problems

2021-03-02 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 3/3/21 08:42, Richard Owlett wrote: Any one know exactly what I need to add that would normally just be silently installed. I just took it as part of "universal" in USB. I'd suggest using a live non-free ISO and then install any necessary drivers - downloaded to a device connected to the

Re: Installation problems

2021-03-02 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 3/3/21 07:31, Brian wrote: Just write the ISO there with dd +1 I proved my back-up worked one day by dd of=sda ignore cp in this scenario, PLEASE. -- Keith Bainbridge ke1thozgro...@gmx.com

Re: Installation problems

2021-03-02 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 03:42:27PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/02/2021 02:31 PM, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 14:09:18 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > I've one fine machine running i386 flavor of Debian 9.13 . > > > I've wish to install 64 bit flavor on a second machine.

Re: Installation problems

2021-03-02 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/02/2021 02:31 PM, Brian wrote: On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 14:09:18 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: I've one fine machine running i386 flavor of Debian 9.13 . I've wish to install 64 bit flavor on a second machine. debian-10.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso was successfully downloaded & saved. I've a

Re: Installation problems

2021-03-02 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 01:16:41PM -0800, Weaver wrote: > On 03-03-2021 06:31, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 14:09:18 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > >> I've one fine machine running i386 flavor of Debian 9.13 . > >> I've wish to install 64 bit flavor on a second machine. > >>

Re: Installation problems

2021-03-02 Thread Weaver
On 03-03-2021 06:31, Brian wrote: > On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 14:09:18 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> I've one fine machine running i386 flavor of Debian 9.13 . >> I've wish to install 64 bit flavor on a second machine. >> debian-10.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso was successfully downloaded & saved. >> >>

Re: Installation problems

2021-03-02 Thread Brian
On Tue 02 Mar 2021 at 14:09:18 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > I've one fine machine running i386 flavor of Debian 9.13 . > I've wish to install 64 bit flavor on a second machine. > debian-10.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso was successfully downloaded & saved. > > I've a couple of 8GB flash drives which

Installation problems

2021-03-02 Thread Richard Owlett
I've one fine machine running i386 flavor of Debian 9.13 . I've wish to install 64 bit flavor on a second machine. debian-10.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso was successfully downloaded & saved. I've a couple of 8GB flash drives which have served as installation media in past. IIRC I could use gparted to

ViSP installation problems

2018-03-10 Thread Evgeny
Greetings, In tutorial, provided ( http://visp-doc.inria.fr/doxygen/visp-daily/tutorial-install-ubuntu-package.html) in ViSP doc, it is pretty simple to install software using terminal, but i face some problems such this: visp is in older version of Debian repository (jessie, I'm using stretch)

Re: 8.1 installation problems

2015-06-27 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sat, 2015-06-27 at 09:40 -0400, Bob McKittrick wrote: Hi, I have an ASUS H61M MB w/ 803 BIOS. Ubuntu works fine, Debian 7.8 worked fine but when I installed 8.1 the BIOS disables the drive (on boot) w/ 4.xxx or 5.xxx depending on the number of partitions. I switched which drives

8.1 installation problems

2015-06-27 Thread Bob McKittrick
Hi, I have an ASUS H61M MB w/ 803 BIOS. Ubuntu works fine, Debian 7.8 worked fine but when I installed 8.1 the BIOS disables the drive (on boot) w/ 4.xxx or 5.xxx depending on the number of partitions. I switched which drives debian and ubuntu were on and the disabling moved to the drive debian

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