On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 06:18:47 +0100,
Wilko Fokken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 04:52:35PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 14:37, Tom wrote:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
These ancient
On Tuesday 28 October 2003 05:33, Tom wrote:
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 11:20:36PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
the distinction that's being missed here is that people don't code in
english, people use english words as symbols in their code. there's a
huge difference.
Random webpage I have
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 10:49:02AM +0100, Johannes Zarl wrote:
Content-Description: signed data
On Tuesday 28 October 2003 05:33, Tom wrote:
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 11:20:36PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
the distinction that's being missed here is that people don't code in
english,
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:05:22AM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
now, think of an example in which you encounter anything remotely like
full sentence structure in
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 04:52:35PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 14:37, Tom wrote:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape
etc. but it consists mostly of bricks and brick like
on Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:05:22AM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
now, think of an example in which you encounter anything remotely like
full sentence structure in code, and try to apply
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 10:36:20PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
i'm arguing that _neither_ english _nor_ german is perfectly suited to
code, since one needs to do some translation to get the sentence into
the form in which a human would say it.
on top of that, i'm arguing that _no_ language
on Mon, 27 Oct 2003 07:51:17PM -0800, Tom insinuated:
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 10:36:20PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
i'm arguing that _neither_ english _nor_ german is perfectly
suited to code, since one needs to do some translation to get the
sentence into the form in which a human would
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 11:20:36PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
the distinction that's being missed here is that people don't code in
english, people use english words as symbols in their code. there's a
huge difference.
Random webpage I have open...
GtkTreeStore* gtk_tree_store_new
on Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 06:47:13PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:38:45PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
...
of course, you can create various complex and
on Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:52:35PM -0500, Ron Johnson insinuated:
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 14:37, Tom wrote:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape
etc. but it consists mostly of bricks and brick like
on Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:09:05PM -0500, Ron Johnson insinuated:
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 17:15, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 at 22:02 GMT, Ron Johnson penned:
I didn't learn that exact method, but did learn what I guess
you'd call sentence decomposition. It fundamental to
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Fri, 24 Oct 2003 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 06:47:13PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:38:45PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
...
of course, you can create
On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 09:48, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Fri, 24 Oct 2003 04:52:35PM -0500, Ron Johnson insinuated:
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 14:37, Tom wrote:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape
On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 09:52, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Fri, 24 Oct 2003 06:09:05PM -0500, Ron Johnson insinuated:
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 17:15, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 at 22:02 GMT, Ron Johnson penned:
I didn't learn that exact method, but did learn what I guess
On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 02:03:56PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
But the less formal process, i.e., intuitive mapping without know-
ing what adjectives, adverbs, participles, etc are is less efficient
than having formal knowledge (even if that formal knowledge does not
consist of drawing
On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 15:09, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 at 18:59 GMT, Ron Johnson penned:
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Jefferson, LA USA
Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty: power
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 at 18:59 GMT, Ron Johnson penned:
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On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 02:59:07PM -0600, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 at 20:54 GMT, David Jardine penned:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape
etc. but it consists mostly of
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 06:47:13PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:38:45PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
...
of course, you can create various complex and ambiguous sentences in
english, the point is that you can take few forms of sentences and
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 06:47:13PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:38:45PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
...
of course, you can create various complex and ambiguous sentences in
english, the point is that you can take few forms
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape
etc. but it consists mostly of bricks and brick like pieces. german (and
lot of other languages) is more like putty - you mold things together.
the lego-like
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape
etc. but it consists mostly of bricks and brick like pieces. german (and
lot of other languages) is more like putty - you mold things together.
the lego-like
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 at 20:54 GMT, David Jardine penned:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape
etc. but it consists mostly of bricks and brick like pieces. german
(and lot of other languages) is more
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 10:54:26PM +0200, David Jardine wrote:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape
etc. but it consists mostly of bricks and brick like pieces. german (and
lot of other
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 02:59:07PM -0600, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 at 20:54 GMT, David Jardine penned:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape
etc. but it consists mostly of
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 02:21:45PM -0700, Tom wrote:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 10:54:26PM +0200, David Jardine wrote:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape
etc. but it consists mostly of bricks
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 14:37, Tom wrote:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape
etc. but it consists mostly of bricks and brick like pieces. german (and
lot of other languages) is more like putty -
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 16:21, Tom wrote:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 10:54:26PM +0200, David Jardine wrote:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:11:49PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
english is like lego, yes there are some pieces that change shape
etc. but it consists mostly of bricks and brick like
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 11:50:40PM +0200, David Jardine wrote:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 02:21:45PM -0700, Tom wrote:
I would say isRed(fork) contains an implied [it] and [a]:
[it] | is | fork
-||--
|| \ \
\a \red
fork is a predicate
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 at 22:02 GMT, Ron Johnson penned:
I didn't learn that exact method, but did learn what I guess you'd
call sentence decomposition. It fundamental to being able to
comprehend complex sentences.
I don't know about that. Having a mental map of sentences may be
fundamental
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 17:15, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 at 22:02 GMT, Ron Johnson penned:
I didn't learn that exact method, but did learn what I guess you'd
call sentence decomposition. It fundamental to being able to
comprehend complex sentences.
I don't know
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 03:32:08PM -0700, Tom wrote:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 11:50:40PM +0200, David Jardine wrote:
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 02:21:45PM -0700, Tom wrote:
I would say isRed(fork) contains an implied [it] and [a]:
[it] | is | fork
-||--
|
On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 01:23:13AM +0200, David Jardine wrote:
Of course I know it's a fork. It's my paramater and I know what I'm
passing. I wouldn't have called it fork otherwise.
For the purpose of the discussion, I'll grant you the point.
But, clearly a (normal) fork is either red or
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 19:46, Tom wrote:
On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 01:23:13AM +0200, David Jardine wrote:
Of course I know it's a fork. It's my paramater and I know what I'm
passing. I wouldn't have called it fork otherwise.
For the purpose of the discussion, I'll grant you the point.
At Wed, 22 Oct 2003 16:24:44 -0700,
Vineet Kumar wrote:
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At Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:28:44 -0600,
Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 at 22:37 GMT, Erik Steffl penned:
english has a
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 06:47:13PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:38:45PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
...
of course, you can create various complex and ambiguous sentences in
english, the point is that you can take few forms of sentences and
have
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* Tom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031021 15:32]:
Have we figured out who owns the Moon yet?
Narrator: By 1964, experts say man will have established twelve
colonies on the moon,
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 02:31, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
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* Tom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031021 15:32]:
Have we figured out who owns the Moon yet?
Narrator: By 1964, experts say man will have
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* Tom ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
on Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:38:45PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Sun, 19 Oct 2003 04:10:38AM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 at 22:37 GMT, Erik Steffl penned:
english has a fairly simple a regular grammar so it's
on Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:53:34AM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
the two are apples and oranges, my friend, especially when you're
dealing with something that no one can have an objective point of
view on, given different native languages.
??? you can measure how much
* csj ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031018 03:22]:
At Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:28:44 -0600,
Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 at 22:37 GMT, Erik Steffl penned:
english has a fairly simple a regular grammar so it's
fairly easy to create english based programming language -
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:53:34AM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
the two are apples and oranges, my friend, especially when you're
dealing with something that no one can have an objective point of
view on, given different native languages.
??? you can
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 18:24, Vineet Kumar wrote:
* csj ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031018 03:22]:
At Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:28:44 -0600,
Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 at 22:37 GMT, Erik Steffl penned:
[snip]
ASCII. I'd predict just the opposite of your probably: I think it's
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:38:45PM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
...
of course, you can create various complex and ambiguous sentences in
english, the point is that you can take few forms of sentences and
have a working language (that's pretty much what BASIC (talking
about
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 12:44:49 -0500,
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On Sun, 2003-10-19 at
Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 02:01:24PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 12:29, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 at 11:15 GMT, Tom penned:
[OT, sorry -- but question is obscure, will be hard to google]
Are any
On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 12:12:38PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote:
Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003:10:19:15:19:21+0200] scribed:
snip /
Red China Communism came from where? ;-)
Just to quickly jump in, then back out of this trivial, off-topic
polemic:
[a] There is not, nor has
On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 12:24, Nathan Eric Norman wrote:
On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 12:12:38PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote:
Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003:10:19:15:19:21+0200] scribed:
snip /
Red China Communism came from where? ;-)
Just to quickly jump in, then back out of
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 04:28:12PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 12:24, Nathan Eric Norman wrote:
On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 12:12:38PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote:
Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003:10:19:15:19:21+0200] scribed:
snip /
Red China Communism came
* Tom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031021 15:32]:
Have we figured out who owns the Moon yet?
Narrator: The moon. For several years, she has fascinated many. But
will man ever walk on her fertile surface?
[cut to a shot of Adlai Stevenson at some sort of press
csj wrote:
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:38:45 -0700,
Erik Steffl wrote:
[...]
think about it: when learning english the only challenge is
to learn how to pronounce words (and learn irregular
verbs). you built vocabulary by learning words, where you
pretty much only need to remember the word itself
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:56:37 -0700
Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
csj wrote:
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:38:45 -0700,
Erik Steffl wrote:
[...]
think about it: when learning english the only challenge is
to learn how to pronounce words (and learn irregular
verbs). you built
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 12:56:37AM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
csj wrote:
[...]
Because everybody from the poor war orphan Hey, Joe, eat! to
the UN Secretary General speaks it, English has become a rather
tolerant language. But if the same standard for proper German is
applied to what one
On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 21:48, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
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On Sun, 2003-10-19 at
on Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:40:19PM +0200, David Jardine insinuated:
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 12:56:37AM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
csj wrote:
[...]
Because everybody from the poor war orphan Hey, Joe, eat! to
the UN Secretary General speaks it, English has become a rather
tolerant
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 12:23:04PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:40:19PM +0200, David Jardine insinuated:
Depends what you mean by purity. By European language standards
it's fairly pure in the sense of not being cluttered up with things
like redundant inflections,
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 09:05, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
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Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:40:19PM +0200, David Jardine insinuated:
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 12:56:37AM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
csj wrote:
[...]
Because everybody from the poor war orphan Hey, Joe, eat! to
the UN Secretary General speaks it, English has become a rather
Pigeon schrieb:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 11:32:06PM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote:
My first
language was Serbo-Croatian (Commonly referred to as just Serbian since
the war during most of the 90's)
I was under the impression that Serbian was written with Roman
characters, and Croatian with
On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 06:56:13PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
IF (I LIKE BEER) AND (THERE IS BEER IN THE FRIDGE) THEN
GO GET A BUD
END IF
IF (THE FOOTBALL GAME IS ON TV) THEN
TURN ON TV TO ESPN
IF (BEER IN HAND) THEN
WHILE (BOTTLE NOT FULL)
DRINK BEER
END
On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 09:05, David Jardine wrote:
On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 06:56:13PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
IF (I LIKE BEER) AND (THERE IS BEER IN THE FRIDGE) THEN
GO GET A BUD
END IF
IF (THE FOOTBALL GAME IS ON TV) THEN
TURN ON TV TO ESPN
IF (BEER IN HAND) THEN
On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 00:03, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:12:15 -0500,
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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Pigeon writes:
I was under the impression that Serbian was written with Roman
characters, and Croatian with Cyrillic, but they were
On Sat, 2003-10-18 at 19:25, Tim Connors wrote:
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:56:13 -0500:
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 19:54, Chris Roddy wrote:
really, the syntax of most programming languages is not very much like
english -- english would have us putting the block
Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 at 22:37 GMT, Erik Steffl penned:
english has a fairly simple a regular grammar so it's fairly easy
to create english based programming language - the basic control
structures are pretty much english sentences.
This would be fairly hard todo in
Don Werve wrote:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 03:37:33PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
english has a fairly simple a regular grammar so it's fairly easy to
create english based programming language - the basic control structures
are pretty much english sentences.
Actually, English grammar is a
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Pigeon writes:
I was
Arnt Karlsen wrote:
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...
on Sun, 19 Oct 2003 04:10:38AM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 at 22:37 GMT, Erik Steffl penned:
english has a fairly simple a regular grammar so it's fairly easy
to create english based programming language - the basic control
structures
On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 08:19, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
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Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 12:17:53PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Sun, 19 Oct 2003 04:10:38AM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 at 22:37 GMT, Erik Steffl penned:
Two things I love about German:
(1) Those
Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003:10:19:15:19:21+0200] scribed:
snip /
Red China Communism came from where? ;-)
Just to quickly jump in, then back out of this trivial, off-topic
polemic:
[a] There is not, nor has there ever been, a Communist government. The
Soviet Union, Peoples Republic
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 at 11:10 GMT, Erik Steffl penned:
Hrm. German and Latin are much more regular than English. French
is, too, iirc. English has a *lot* of irregularity.
german is regular? with each word changing depending on how it's
used in sentence (case)??? gender being
Daniel B quotes:
Arnt Karlsen wrote:
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On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 08:19, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
enough
as Herrmensch to convince me Adolf would have laughted his ass off.
Ummm Herr is like Sir, and mensch is plural of man, I
think. Sir man is, pardon the pun, a foreign
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
on Sun, 19 Oct 2003 04:10:38AM -0700, Erik Steffl insinuated:
Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 at 22:37 GMT, Erik Steffl penned:
english has a fairly simple a regular grammar so it's fairly easy
to create english based programming language - the basic control
On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 12:42, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 at 17:03 GMT, Ron Johnson penned:
On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 08:19, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
enough
as Herrmensch to convince me Adolf would have laughted his ass off.
Ummm Herr is like Sir, and mensch is plural of
Hi,
Monique Y. Herman wrote:
Okay, okay, I can think of an irregular German bit. As a small child, I
once said Du hast mich wehgetutet. (Instead of wehgetan.) I
conjugated the verb improperly, and don't think I've ever been allowed
to forget it, even after 20 years!
Du hast *mir*
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 at 23:45 GMT, Viktor Rosenfeld penned:
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Hi,
Monique Y. Herman wrote:
Okay, okay, I can think of an irregular German bit. As a
on Mon, 20 Oct 2003 01:45:21AM +0200, Viktor Rosenfeld insinuated:
Hi,
Monique Y. Herman wrote:
Okay, okay, I can think of an irregular German bit. As a small child, I
once said Du hast mich wehgetutet. (Instead of wehgetan.) I
conjugated the verb improperly, and don't think I've
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On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 08:19, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 05:51:16 -0500,
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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On Sun, 2003-10-19 at
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 12:38:45 -0700,
Erik Steffl wrote:
[...]
think about it: when learning english the only challenge is
to learn how to pronounce words (and learn irregular
verbs). you built vocabulary by learning words, where you
pretty much only need to remember the word itself (in its
John,
John Hasler wrote:
Daniel B quotes:
Arnt Karlsen wrote:
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 05:51:16 -0500,
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On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 00:03, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:12:15 -0500,
John Hasler
Daniel writes:
So? Nothing in my message attributed anything to you. (Check the
indentation level.)
Complex indentations are confusing. People assume, not unreasonably, that
the presence of someone's name implies the presence of something that
person wrote.
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At Fri, 17 Oct 2003 16:12:22 -0700,
Don Werve wrote:
[...]
The only reason that English-esque languages are prevalent is
that, in the early days, most of the programmers were native
English speakers, and as such, wrote tools and compilers that
best fit their native linguistic models. If
At Fri, 17 Oct 2003 17:28:44 -0600,
Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 at 22:37 GMT, Erik Steffl penned:
english has a fairly simple a regular grammar so it's
fairly easy to create english based programming language -
the basic control structures are pretty much
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 11:32:06PM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote:
My first
language was Serbo-Croatian (Commonly referred to as just Serbian since
the war during most of the 90's)
I was under the impression that Serbian was written with Roman
characters, and Croatian with Cyrillic, but they
Pigeon writes:
I was under the impression that Serbian was written with Roman
characters, and Croatian with Cyrillic, but they were actually the same
language, hence Serbo-Croatian. How close to the truth is this?
A language is a dialect with its own army and navy.
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On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 19:54, Chris Roddy wrote:
Don Werve wrote:
Actually, English grammar is a nightmare to behold; there is no
consistent method of handling verb conjugations, and the structure of a
sentence is integral to its meaning; you can't just randomly move words
around in an
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:56:13 -0500:
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 19:54, Chris Roddy wrote:
really, the syntax of most programming languages is not very much like
english -- english would have us putting the block before the for() or
if() :-) ...
What
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:12:15 -0500,
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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Pigeon writes:
I was under the impression that Serbian was written with Roman
characters, and Croatian with Cyrillic, but they were actually the
..the other way around.
same language,
[OT, sorry -- but question is obscure, will be hard to google]
Are any non-english-speaking readers aware of High-level programming
languages using non-English syntax? Like, could I find a French C
compiler that uses pour instead of for and si instead of if?
Actually, I'd be highly curious if
well i believe brainfuck does not have a english syntax but on the other
side i would consider it as a real high level programmming language ;)
you find information about it for example here:
http://gbf.sourceforge.net/
but i don't think it is what you are searching for...
and i believe
On Friday 17 October 2003 13:15, Tom wrote:
Are any non-english-speaking readers aware of High-level programming
languages using non-English syntax?
I think parts of the scripting language Microsoft uses in its Office suite are
localized.
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On Friday 17 October 2003 13:15, Tom wrote:
Are any non-english-speaking readers aware of High-level programming
languages using non-English syntax?
Well, there is this really cool hack:
Lingua::Romana::Perligata
Hacking Perl in Latin!
Check out
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 05:28:47PM +0200, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
On Friday 17 October 2003 13:15, Tom wrote:
Are any non-english-speaking readers aware of High-level programming
languages using non-English syntax?
Well, there is this really cool hack:
Lingua::Romana::Perligata
Hacking
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 at 11:15 GMT, Tom penned:
[OT, sorry -- but question is obscure, will be hard to google]
Are any non-english-speaking readers aware of High-level programming
languages using non-English syntax? Like, could I find a French C
compiler that uses pour instead of for and si
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 06:15, Tom wrote:
[OT, sorry -- but question is obscure, will be hard to google]
Are any non-english-speaking readers aware of High-level programming
languages using non-English syntax? Like, could I find a French C
compiler that uses pour instead of for and si
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