On Sun, 2014-03-16 at 13:05 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
(Also as a reminder to self:) Please refer to offtopic list rather
than bog down debian-user. Thanks Ralph for pointing me at o-t list.
Apologies for raising this non-technical issue on d-u.
Zenaan
For those who don't know the OT list:
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 10:35:03AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On 3/15/14, John L. Ries jr...@salford-systems.com wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014, Tom H wrote:
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 3:42 AM, Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org
wrote:
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 01:10:11PM +1100, Charlie
On Fri, 2014-03-14 at 23:07 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 10:35:03AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
[snip]
+1
I remember reading some advice to a new internet user: grow a thick
skin.
+1
But that doesn't solve some serious issues Zenaan, some others and I
(Also as a reminder to self:) Please refer to offtopic list rather
than bog down debian-user. Thanks Ralph for pointing me at o-t list.
Apologies for raising this non-technical issue on d-u.
Zenaan
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On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 3:42 AM, Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org wrote:
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 01:10:11PM +1100, Charlie Schroeder wrote:
Life isn't about second guessing if you write or speak to someone if
they will take offence surely? Isn't it so that you say your piece and
people can
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014, Tom H wrote:
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 3:42 AM, Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org wrote:
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 01:10:11PM +1100, Charlie Schroeder wrote:
Life isn't about second guessing if you write or speak to someone if
they will take offence surely? Isn't it so that
On 3/15/14, John L. Ries jr...@salford-systems.com wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014, Tom H wrote:
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 3:42 AM, Jonathan Dowland j...@debian.org
wrote:
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 01:10:11PM +1100, Charlie Schroeder wrote:
Life isn't about second guessing if you write or speak to
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 01:10:11PM +1100, Charlie Schroeder wrote:
Life isn't about second guessing if you write or speak to someone if
they will take offence surely? Isn't it so that you say your piece and
people can take it or leave it. It's up to them.
Life and the Debian user mailing list
On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 13:10:11 +1100 (EST)
Charlie Schroeder aries...@ipstarmail.com.au wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 20:14:26 -0400 Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
litt...@gmail.com suggested this:
But as Dave said, yelling at first-time poster for a non-repeated
minor mistake is just
On 2014-03-11, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 07:38:01PM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Everyone is new at sometime or other. A helping hand is always
welcome. Remember that honey attracts more flies than vinegar.
Actually, you attract more fruit
On Tuesday 11 March 2014 07:42:00 Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 01:10:11PM +1100, Charlie Schroeder wrote:
Life isn't about second guessing if you write or speak to someone
if they will take offence surely? Isn't it so that you say your
piece and people can take it or
On 03/11/2014 03:42 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
snip ...the project is considering the adoption of a 'code of conduct' which
will replace the existing mailing list CoC. The text of the proposal is
here[1]. Of particular relevance here is, I think, a community in which
people feel threatened is
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 09:11:57AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Tuesday 11 March 2014 07:42:00 Jonathan Dowland wrote:
[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2014/02/msg00069.html
What happened to: Assume good faith?
It's the second part of the CoC proposal that I linked to, immediately
On Tuesday 11 March 2014 13:30:06 Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 09:11:57AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Tuesday 11 March 2014 07:42:00 Jonathan Dowland wrote:
[1]
https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2014/02/msg00069.html
What happened to: Assume good faith?
It's
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 06:50:11PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
I did read it. Where did you think that I got the quotation from?
(Note the quotation marks.)
OK, your point wasn't clear to me, I interpreted it as wondering whether
assume good faith was absent from the proposed CoC.
I was asking
Note: My use of you/your etc is plural, singling out no individual
Note: To everyone. Don your Kevlar and CBRN suits ;)
I've been avoiding engaging this juvenile nonsense, but given some of
you whiny thin skinned PC police simply will not drop this bone,
apparently it's up to me to lay down
On 3/10/2014 4:45 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
Note: My use of you/your etc is plural, singling out no individual
Note: To everyone. Don your Kevlar and CBRN suits ;)
I've been avoiding engaging this juvenile nonsense, but given some of
you whiny thin skinned PC police simply will not drop this
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 01:42:09AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Monday 10 March 2014 00:15:18 Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
Really, calling the OP a nub ( whatever the hell he means by
that) isn't an insult?
nub, short for newbie, i.e. new user. And no, it is not an insult.
Lisi
In the
On 03/09/2014 09:42 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Monday 10 March 2014 00:15:18 Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
Really, calling the OP a nub ( whatever the hell he means by
that) isn't an insult?
nub, short for newbie, i.e. new user. And no, it is not an insult.
Lisi
Ahh, thanks. In my travels, when
On 03/09/2014 11:05 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 10/03/14 11:15, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
On 03/09/2014 06:09 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Du, 09 mar 14, 01:39:56, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote:
snipped
Really, calling the OP a nub ( whatever the hell he means by that)
isn't
On 03/10/2014 04:45 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
Note: My use of you/your etc is plural, singling out no individual
Note: To everyone. Don your Kevlar and CBRN suits ;)
I've been avoiding engaging this juvenile nonsense, but given some of
you whiny thin skinned PC police simply will not drop
On 03/10/2014 08:29 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 3/10/2014 4:45 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
I've been using the phonetic abbreviation nub for over 15 years
Knowledge is not an excuse for being an anal orifice. And just because
you've been using something wrong for over 15 years does not
On Monday 10 March 2014 14:34:43 Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
It's pretty damn sad that a 'certain' type of new users join this
list, and the first post they see from me is one of my rare tough
love posts such as in this thread. And even though said new
users are not the recipient of the
On Mon, 10 Mar 2014, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
On 03/10/2014 04:45 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
Note: My use of you/your etc is plural, singling out no individual
Note: To everyone. Don your Kevlar and CBRN suits ;)
I've been avoiding engaging this juvenile nonsense, but given some of
you whiny
On 03/10/2014 10:47 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Monday 10 March 2014 14:34:43 Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
It's pretty damn sad that a 'certain' type of new users join this
list, and the first post they see from me is one of my rare tough
love posts such as in this thread. And even though said new
On Mon, 2014-03-10 at 10:34 -0400, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
. . .
The phoentic would be noob. Which is part of my confusion. That and
having never seen the word nub used in the context like you had
When I first read the sentence with nub in it I was completely
confused because I was
On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 11:15:11 -0400 Dave Woyciesjes sent:
It's attitudes like that that keep people away from Debian
Linux.
Do you think so? Or is it that people are accustomed to having it all
done for them, just turn the key and the engine fires up?
That attitude should be ignored if one
On 3/10/2014 5:16 PM, Charlie wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 11:15:11 -0400 Dave Woyciesjes sent:
It's attitudes like that that keep people away from Debian
Linux.
Do you think so? Or is it that people are accustomed to having it all
done for them, just turn the key and the engine fires up?
On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 08:16:12 +1100
Charlie aries...@ipstarmail.com.au wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 11:15:11 -0400 Dave Woyciesjes sent:
It's attitudes like that that keep people away from Debian
Linux.
Do you think so?
I definitely think so. And if we ever want our OS of choice to
Hi Stan,
There is no denying you can be abrupt at times, nor can it be
denied you're quite helpful.
Bravo and keep up the good work.
Mike
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 03:45:37AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
Note: My use of you/your etc is plural, singling out no individual
Note: To
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 07:38:01PM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Everyone is new at sometime or other. A helping hand is always
welcome. Remember that honey attracts more flies than vinegar.
Actually, you attract more fruit flies with vinegar than honey.
--
If you're not careful, the
On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 20:14:26 -0400 Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
litt...@gmail.com suggested this:
But as Dave said, yelling at first-time poster for a non-repeated minor
mistake is just going to drive him over to Apple or back to Microsoft,
and once we've driven away a few million, don't
On Du, 09 mar 14, 01:39:56, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote:
[big snip]
Everyone,
The least you could do when you hijack a thread would be to change the
subject, otherwise you'll be swamping the OP with OT chatter that
doesn't even help him (quite the contrary).
Doesn't it seem
On 03/09/2014 06:09 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Du, 09 mar 14, 01:39:56, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote:
[big snip]
Everyone,
The least you could do when you hijack a thread would be to change the
subject, otherwise you'll be swamping the OP with OT chatter that
doesn't even help
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic
TIA,
Ralf
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On Monday 10 March 2014 00:15:18 Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
Really, calling the OP a nub ( whatever the hell he means by
that) isn't an insult?
nub, short for newbie, i.e. new user. And no, it is not an insult.
Lisi
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On 3/9/2014 9:42 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Monday 10 March 2014 00:15:18 Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
Really, calling the OP a nub ( whatever the hell he means by
that) isn't an insult?
nub, short for newbie, i.e. new user. And no, it is not an insult.
Lisi
Maybe not where you are. But here
On Sun, 09 Mar 2014 21:55:05 -0400
Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
On 3/9/2014 9:42 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Monday 10 March 2014 00:15:18 Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
Really, calling the OP a nub ( whatever the hell he means by
that) isn't an insult?
nub, short for newbie, i.e.
On 10/03/14 11:15, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
On 03/09/2014 06:09 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Du, 09 mar 14, 01:39:56, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote:
snipped
Really, calling the OP a nub ( whatever the hell he means by that)
isn't an insult? And you think there was no condescending
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