Re: RE: Problems installing QEMU packages on Debian 12 (stable)

[Lukas Nagy]

Hi,

thanks for checking, in the end I solved this by switching mirrors from 
default http://deb.debian.org/debian to http://ftp.cz.debian.org/debian 
- after updating I got the correct version of QEMU package.


Maybe something was cached somewhere for several days, strange that I 
had to change the mirror.

Problems installing QEMU packages on Debian 12 (stable)

[Lukas Nagy]

Hi,

I am trying to make KVM/QEMU work on my Debian 12. I follow 
https://wiki.debian.org/KVM but I get stuck already on installation, 
because apt-get reports non-existent packages on debian repos.


I ran

sudo apt install qemu-system libvirt-daemon-system virt-manager

It resolves packages, but when fails on 404 on qemu / xen packages

Full output is here:

sudo apt install qemu-system libvirt-daemon-system virt-manager
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer 
required:

  libcapi20-3 libodbc2 libosmesa6 libz-mingw-w64
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following additional packages will be installed:
  gir1.2-ayatanaappindicator3-0.1 gir1.2-gtk-vnc-2.0 
gir1.2-libosinfo-1.0 gir1.2-libvirt-glib-1.0 gir1.2-spiceclientglib-2.0 
gir1.2-spiceclientgtk-3.0 gir1.2-vte-2.91 gnutls-bin ibverbs-providers 
ipxe-qemu
  libcacard0 libcapstone4 libdaxctl1 libexecs0 libfdt1 libfmt9 
libgfapi0 libgfrpc0 libgfxdr0 libglusterfs0 libgtk-vnc-2.0-0 
libgvnc-1.0-0 libibverbs1 libiscsi7 libisoburn1 libndctl6 libnss-mymachines
  libphodav-3.0-0 libphodav-3.0-common libpmem1 librados2 librbd1 
librdmacm1 libspice-client-glib-2.0-8 libspice-client-gtk-3.0-5 
libspice-server1 libtpms0 liburing2 libusbredirhost1 libusbredirparser1
  libvdeplug2 libvirglrenderer1 libvirt-clients libvirt-daemon 
libvirt-daemon-config-network libvirt-daemon-config-nwfilter 
libvirt-daemon-driver-lxc libvirt-daemon-driver-qemu 
libvirt-daemon-driver-vbox
  libvirt-daemon-driver-xen libvirt-daemon-system-systemd 
libvirt-glib-1.0-0 libvirt-glib-1.0-data libvirt-l10n libvirt0 
libxencall1 libxendevicemodel1 libxenevtchn1 libxenforeignmemory1 
libxengnttab1
  libxenhypfs1 libxenmisc4.17 libxenstore4 libxentoolcore1 
libxentoollog1 libxml2-utils mdevctl netcat-openbsd ovmf python3-libvirt 
python3-libxml2 qemu-block-extra qemu-efi-aarch64 qemu-efi-arm
  qemu-system-arm qemu-system-common qemu-system-data qemu-system-gui 
qemu-system-mips qemu-system-misc qemu-system-ppc qemu-system-sparc 
qemu-system-x86 qemu-utils seabios spice-client-glib-usb-acl-helper
  swtpm swtpm-libs swtpm-tools systemd-container virt-viewer virtinst 
xorriso

Suggested packages:
  libvirt-clients-qemu libvirt-login-shell 
libvirt-daemon-driver-storage-gluster 
libvirt-daemon-driver-storage-iscsi-direct 
libvirt-daemon-driver-storage-rbd libvirt-daemon-driver-storage-zfs 
numad auditd
  nfs-common open-iscsi pm-utils systemtap zfsutils samba vde2 trousers 
python3-guestfs ssh-askpass xorriso-tcltk jigit cdck

The following NEW packages will be installed:
  gir1.2-ayatanaappindicator3-0.1 gir1.2-gtk-vnc-2.0 
gir1.2-libosinfo-1.0 gir1.2-libvirt-glib-1.0 gir1.2-spiceclientglib-2.0 
gir1.2-spiceclientgtk-3.0 gir1.2-vte-2.91 gnutls-bin ibverbs-providers 
ipxe-qemu
  libcacard0 libcapstone4 libdaxctl1 libexecs0 libfdt1 libfmt9 
libgfapi0 libgfrpc0 libgfxdr0 libglusterfs0 libgtk-vnc-2.0-0 
libgvnc-1.0-0 libibverbs1 libiscsi7 libisoburn1 libndctl6 libnss-mymachines
  libphodav-3.0-0 libphodav-3.0-common libpmem1 librados2 librbd1 
librdmacm1 libspice-client-glib-2.0-8 libspice-client-gtk-3.0-5 
libspice-server1 libtpms0 liburing2 libusbredirhost1 libusbredirparser1
  libvdeplug2 libvirglrenderer1 libvirt-clients libvirt-daemon 
libvirt-daemon-config-network libvirt-daemon-config-nwfilter 
libvirt-daemon-driver-lxc libvirt-daemon-driver-qemu 
libvirt-daemon-driver-vbox
  libvirt-daemon-driver-xen libvirt-daemon-system 
libvirt-daemon-system-systemd libvirt-glib-1.0-0 libvirt-glib-1.0-data 
libvirt-l10n libvirt0 libxencall1 libxendevicemodel1 libxenevtchn1 
libxenforeignmemory1
  libxengnttab1 libxenhypfs1 libxenmisc4.17 libxenstore4 
libxentoolcore1 libxentoollog1 libxml2-utils mdevctl netcat-openbsd ovmf 
python3-libvirt python3-libxml2 qemu-block-extra qemu-efi-aarch64 
qemu-efi-arm
  qemu-system qemu-system-arm qemu-system-common qemu-system-data 
qemu-system-gui qemu-system-mips qemu-system-misc qemu-system-ppc 
qemu-system-sparc qemu-system-x86 qemu-utils seabios
  spice-client-glib-usb-acl-helper swtpm swtpm-libs swtpm-tools 
systemd-container virt-manager virt-viewer virtinst xorriso

0 upgraded, 96 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 97,7 MB/143 MB of archives.
After this operation, 974 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Err:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm/main amd64 gnutls-bin amd64 
3.7.9-2+deb12u1

  404  Not Found [IP: 2a04:4e42:41::644 80]
Err:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm/main amd64 systemd-container 
amd64 252.19-1~deb12u1

  404  Not Found [IP: 2a04:4e42:41::644 80]
Err:3 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm/main amd64 libnss-mymachines 
amd64 252.19-1~deb12u1

  404  Not Found [IP: 2a04:4e42:41::644 80]
Err:4 http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm/main amd64 libxentoolcore1 
amd64 4.17.2+76-ge1f9cb16e2-1~deb12u1

  404  Not Found [IP: 2a04:4e42:41::644 

Re: Problems installing Debian

[Charles Curley]

On Sat, 20 Feb 2021 16:00:09 -0800
"M.R.P. zensky"  wrote:

> One problem that I am having is the Debian install menu asks for if I
> use a network card. I don’t I use home based wifi which I don’t see
> an option for this.

Debian considers wifi to be just another network card.

However, many wifi cards require a special proprietary program, called
firmware. These do not fit the Debian ideals, so they come separately.
If your wifi card requires proprietary firmware, you may have to copy
that onto your Debian computer manually.

Let us know what kind of wifi card you have. As root, run

lspci

Copy and paste the results into an email. Then we can help you further.

> The other problem is that it asks for a proxy for adding a
> repository.  I don’t know what to do with this either.

Ignore this.

-- 
Does anybody read signatures any more?

https://charlescurley.com
https://charlescurley.com/blog/

Re: Problems installing Debian

[David Wright]

On Sat 20 Feb 2021 at 16:00:09 (-0800), M.R.P. zensky wrote:
>  Hello I have successfully installed ubuntu linux on my system but I want to 
> use Debian. I download the iso file from their home page. One problem that I 
> am having is the Debian install menu asks for if I use a network card. I 
> don’t I use home based wifi which I don’t see an option for this. The other 
> problem is that it asks for a proxy for adding a repository.  I don’t know 
> what to do with this either. How do you connect Debian to my home wifi?

If you downloaded a file with firmware included, like
firmware-10.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso, then the wifi will normally
be detected, and you can choose the wl… interface.

However, if the firmware version wasn't chosen, then you can
install Debian using the firmware from your ubuntu system. If you
 # dmesg | grep firmware
or
 $ sudo dmesg | grep firmware
on the ubuntu system, the firmware that was required will be listed
there. Copy the corresponding files from the /lib/firmware/… tree
onto a USB stick, preferably at top level, and plug the stick in
after you've started the Debian installation. The installer should
then find it at the appropriate time.

Ignore the proxy field: it's optional.

Cheers,
David.

Re: Problems installing Debian

[IL Ka]

If Debian can't detect your network card, I suggest using Debian DVD iso to
install Debian, and then deal with the network card.
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/
You need "debian-10.8.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso". It can be used to install Debian
without a network connection.

You do not need to provide a proxy. Just leave this field blank.

After successful installation, check that you can log into your system, and
google " + Debian" or check this wiki:
https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi

You can also write the name of this card to this list: someone may be able
to help you.



On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 3:06 AM M.R.P. zensky 
wrote:

>  Hello I have successfully installed ubuntu linux on my system but I want
> to use Debian. I download the iso file from their home page. One problem
> that I am having is the Debian install menu asks for if I use a network
> card. I don’t I use home based wifi which I don’t see an option for this.
> The other problem is that it asks for a proxy for adding a repository.  I
> don’t know what to do with this either. How do you connect Debian to my
> home wifi?
>

Problems installing Debian

[M.R.P. zensky]

 Hello I have successfully installed ubuntu linux on my system but I want to 
use Debian. I download the iso file from their home page. One problem that I am 
having is the Debian install menu asks for if I use a network card. I don’t I 
use home based wifi which I don’t see an option for this. The other problem is 
that it asks for a proxy for adding a repository.  I don’t know what to do with 
this either. How do you connect Debian to my home wifi?

Re: Problems installing from flash drive.

[songbird]

Richard Owlett wrote:
> That works.
> Your choice of directory names in the path to the files extracted from 
> each ISO broke my current mental logjam.

...

  yes, that's what i did, years ago, so the added parts in the
line about security weren't needed back then.  glad it works.  :)


  songbird

Re: Problems installing from flash drive.

[Richard Owlett]

On 02/05/2021 01:05 PM, songbird wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:
...

One can purchase a flash drive containing ISO images of all installation
DVDs of the desired architecture. It is straight forward to do a default
install after copying dvd1.iso to a flash drive.

...

Are the instructions to create a "local repository" composed of
appropriate ISO files?


   yes, i'm sure there are, but also in the past i was able to
just copy the files to the right place on a hard drive or
partition and use that without using any other tool other
than a straight copy.



As I just replied to Jeremy, that works.
I don't recall a previous so can't say why things didn't work.
I suspect I've been using Debian enough since that my unstated 
assumptions more closely match yours ?


Thanks for your time.

Re: Problems installing from flash drive.

[Richard Owlett]

That works.
Your choice of directory names in the path to the files extracted from 
each ISO broke my current mental logjam.


Thanks


On 02/05/2021 10:21 AM, Jeremy Andrews wrote:

Hi Richard,

Here's what I would probably do:

- create directories on your USB or partition for each of the DVDs
- extract each ISO, and place the contents in the directories
- if using a separate partition, mount it in your fstab at a location 
such as /mnt/deb, or if using a USB, just make sure to always mount it 
at the same location when you want to install something


Then you can add a line such as this to your APT sources:
deb [trusted=yes] file:///mnt/deb/DVD1/ buster main
deb [trusted=yes] file:///mnt/deb/DVD2/ buster main
deb [trusted=yes] file:///mnt/deb/DVD3/ buster main

Now whenever you want to install something, you shouldn't have to worry 
about which DVD it was on, APT should just automatically find it.



Jeremy

On Fri, 5 Feb 2021 at 09:55, Richard Owlett > wrote:


I wish to do custom Debian install on a machine *WITHOUT*:
    1. functional mechanical CD/DVD drive.
    2. without internet access.

One can purchase a flash drive containing ISO images of all
installation
DVDs of the desired architecture. It is straight forward to do a
default
install after copying dvd1.iso to a flash drive.

Resulting problems include:
    1. undesired programs clutter machine (e.g. LibreOffice).
    2. project critical software cannot be installed as Synaptic
       asks for a non-existent DVD be inserted in a non-existent drive.

One vendor has a shell program which loop mounts the ISO files in
such a
way that *IF* you have the purchased flash drive installed you can use
Synaptic.

The Debian documentation does not appear to describe how apt &/or
Synaptic can access ISO files on dedicated partition.

Are the instructions to create a "local repository" composed of
appropriate ISO files?

TIA

Re: Problems installing from flash drive.

[Doug McGarrett]

On 2/5/21 9:54 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

I wish to do custom Debian install on a machine *WITHOUT*:
  1. functional mechanical CD/DVD drive.
  2. without internet access.

One can purchase a flash drive containing ISO images of all 
installation DVDs of the desired architecture. It is straight forward 
to do a default install after copying dvd1.iso to a flash drive.


Resulting problems include:
  1. undesired programs clutter machine (e.g. LibreOffice).
  2. project critical software cannot be installed as Synaptic
 asks for a non-existent DVD be inserted in a non-existent drive.
You can--and in my opinion, should--purchase an external optical drive. 
They cost somewhere in the $20 range.
I have an LG model GP08LU11. It can read and write CD, DVD, and it will 
do LightScribe.  I don't know if this model is
still available, but LG does have a couple models listed. Putting the 
request into Google produces a slew of drives.

--doug


One vendor has a shell program which loop mounts the ISO files in such 
a way that *IF* you have the purchased flash drive installed you can 
use Synaptic.


The Debian documentation does not appear to describe how apt &/or 
Synaptic can access ISO files on dedicated partition.


Are the instructions to create a "local repository" composed of 
appropriate ISO files?


TIA

Re: Problems installing from flash drive.

[songbird]

Richard Owlett wrote:
...
> One can purchase a flash drive containing ISO images of all installation 
> DVDs of the desired architecture. It is straight forward to do a default 
> install after copying dvd1.iso to a flash drive.
...
> Are the instructions to create a "local repository" composed of 
> appropriate ISO files?

  yes, i'm sure there are, but also in the past i was able to
just copy the files to the right place on a hard drive or
partition and use that without using any other tool other 
than a straight copy.

  i would be surprised if that were not still the case.

  i copied the files from the DVD disks.

  i explained this in more detail years ago to you (here on
this forum) so you might be able to find those messages again 
via searching.

  i no longer have that set-up on my drives at all so i can't
tell you what i did, but it worked just fine and exactly
like you want.

  note, i no longer use Synaptic, whatever happened to it to 
turn it into wanting security or lacking thereof or whatever the
problems were just made me ditch it.  other tools work for
what i needed to get done so...


  songbird

Re: Problems installing from flash drive.

[Dan Ritter]

Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: 
> On Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 08:54:55AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > I wish to do custom Debian install on a machine *WITHOUT*:
> >   1. functional mechanical CD/DVD drive.
> >   2. without internet access.
> 
> Things I learned today - someone wants us to make a 128GB flash drive image 
> to have "all of Debian" on one flash
> drive - see the discussion across on debian-cd.
> 
> You want to do a custom install of Debian without internet access: if you 
> were doing this completely from scratch,
> then I would recommend that you might want to have another machine with 
> internet access to make images from all the 
> DVD image files by using jigdo.

My company used to use apt-mirror to sync changes from Debian,
and then made them available internally via Apache.

We now use aptly, because we keep several versions of the Debian
repo plus our own internal packages.

> You can always install files in small numbers and check what you're doing: if 
> you don't want LibreOffice, don't
> install it.

Indeed.

-dsr-

Re: Problems installing from flash drive.

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 08:54:55AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I wish to do custom Debian install on a machine *WITHOUT*:
>   1. functional mechanical CD/DVD drive.
>   2. without internet access.
> 
> One can purchase a flash drive containing ISO images of all installation
> DVDs of the desired architecture. It is straight forward to do a default
> install after copying dvd1.iso to a flash drive.
> 
> Resulting problems include:
>   1. undesired programs clutter machine (e.g. LibreOffice).
>   2. project critical software cannot be installed as Synaptic
>  asks for a non-existent DVD be inserted in a non-existent drive.
> 
> One vendor has a shell program which loop mounts the ISO files in such a way
> that *IF* you have the purchased flash drive installed you can use Synaptic.
> 
> The Debian documentation does not appear to describe how apt &/or Synaptic
> can access ISO files on dedicated partition.
> 
> Are the instructions to create a "local repository" composed of appropriate
> ISO files?
> 
> TIA
> 
> 

Things I learned today - someone wants us to make a 128GB flash drive image to 
have "all of Debian" on one flash
drive - see the discussion across on debian-cd.

You want to do a custom install of Debian without internet access: if you were 
doing this completely from scratch,
then I would recommend that you might want to have another machine with 
internet access to make images from all the 
DVD image files by using jigdo.

Many things can be installed by using the first three DVDs or so - rarely if 
ever are you likely to need all 16.
To make the images from 4 to 16, you would need to use jigdo if you were doing 
this entirely yourself.

If you have a flash drive with the .iso files for DVD1 to DVD3 (or 1-16 if you 
have them): Write DVD1 to another 
flash drive and use it to boot and install. For myself, I would always use the 
text mode installer and the expert 
mode: do a very simple install, installing the minimum you can get away with: 
base files and maybe an ssh server. 
Reboot.

Part way through the install, you may be prompted as to whether you want to 
scan another disk: if so, see if you can
arrange to loop mount the next image. 

At that point, the installer will have written DVD1 in /etc/apt/sources.list as 
the location to pull files from.
Mount the flash drive with the images on under /mnt, loop mounting individual 
iso images if needed. Use the command
"apt-cdrom add" to add the individual DVDs This will read the manifests on each 
DVD in turn and effectively add the 
contents of each disk to cache.

At that point, you can apt-get install / synaptic install anything you like: if 
apt needs you to "swap DVDs", you 
will get a prompt to tell you which .iso needs inserting / mounting. It's slow 
but it will work.

You can always install files in small numbers and check what you're doing: if 
you don't want LibreOffice, don't
install it.

All the very best, 

Andy C.

Re: Problems installing from flash drive.

[Jeremy Andrews]

Hi Richard,

Here's what I would probably do:

- create directories on your USB or partition for each of the DVDs
- extract each ISO, and place the contents in the directories
- if using a separate partition, mount it in your fstab at a location such
as /mnt/deb, or if using a USB, just make sure to always mount it at the
same location when you want to install something

Then you can add a line such as this to your APT sources:
deb [trusted=yes] file:///mnt/deb/DVD1/ buster main
deb [trusted=yes] file:///mnt/deb/DVD2/ buster main
deb [trusted=yes] file:///mnt/deb/DVD3/ buster main

Now whenever you want to install something, you shouldn't have to worry
about which DVD it was on, APT should just automatically find it.


Jeremy

On Fri, 5 Feb 2021 at 09:55, Richard Owlett  wrote:

> I wish to do custom Debian install on a machine *WITHOUT*:
>1. functional mechanical CD/DVD drive.
>2. without internet access.
>
> One can purchase a flash drive containing ISO images of all installation
> DVDs of the desired architecture. It is straight forward to do a default
> install after copying dvd1.iso to a flash drive.
>
> Resulting problems include:
>1. undesired programs clutter machine (e.g. LibreOffice).
>2. project critical software cannot be installed as Synaptic
>   asks for a non-existent DVD be inserted in a non-existent drive.
>
> One vendor has a shell program which loop mounts the ISO files in such a
> way that *IF* you have the purchased flash drive installed you can use
> Synaptic.
>
> The Debian documentation does not appear to describe how apt &/or
> Synaptic can access ISO files on dedicated partition.
>
> Are the instructions to create a "local repository" composed of
> appropriate ISO files?
>
> TIA
>
>
>

Problems installing from flash drive.

[Richard Owlett]

I wish to do custom Debian install on a machine *WITHOUT*:
  1. functional mechanical CD/DVD drive.
  2. without internet access.

One can purchase a flash drive containing ISO images of all installation 
DVDs of the desired architecture. It is straight forward to do a default 
install after copying dvd1.iso to a flash drive.


Resulting problems include:
  1. undesired programs clutter machine (e.g. LibreOffice).
  2. project critical software cannot be installed as Synaptic
 asks for a non-existent DVD be inserted in a non-existent drive.

One vendor has a shell program which loop mounts the ISO files in such a 
way that *IF* you have the purchased flash drive installed you can use 
Synaptic.


The Debian documentation does not appear to describe how apt &/or 
Synaptic can access ISO files on dedicated partition.


Are the instructions to create a "local repository" composed of 
appropriate ISO files?


TIA

Re: Problems installing MariaDB

[Joe]

On Sat, 30 Jun 2018 09:07:33 -0500
Richard Owlett  wrote:

> On 06/29/2018 03:01 PM, deloptes wrote:
> > Richard Owlett wrote:
> >   
> >> The initial setup to create users and associated passwords
> >> specifically. Also anything else required for using it for the
> >> first time.  
> > 
> > Hi,
> > as you stated that you have time, just read some good howto. You
> > must know that MariaDB is MySQL, so any MySQL introductory lesson
> > will help.  
> 
> How to find a suitable one?
> The ones I find are written assuming things that are never identified
> or use some distro specific hack. Many presume a WEB-SERVER is
> involved. I understand that MySQL's definition of server is somehow
> different.

I use phpmyadmin because I like it, and I'm not a touch-typist. But you
can do anything via the command line, and I'm sure your minimal Linux
has a shell. You can even do it via SQL, but you need some sort of
client for that.

Here's a start: at a Linux shell prompt, type:

 mysql -u root -p

 and from a new installation where no root password has been set, just
hit return when it asks. Special free gift this month, your first MySQL
command:

 show databases;

Don't forget the semicolon, if you just hit return, MySQL/mariadb will
just treat it as white space until it sees the next semicolon.

Oh, yes, quit; will get you back out.

> 
> My Debian install is minimalist. When given the opportunity near end
> of install I specified only MATE desktop and 'standard' utilities.
> 
> When in actual use my laptop will have *NO* connection to outside
> world.
> 
> Suggestions for finding a suitable tutorial/howto?

Without using the Internet? Probably one of those three-inch books,
then. This link (again) will get you a PDF or zipped HTML, on the left
of the web page, near the top:

https://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql-getting-started/en/

Here:

https://downloads.mysql.com/docs/refman-5.7-en.pdf

is the full reference manual, when you're ready for it.

-- 
Joe

Re: Problems installing MariaDB

[deloptes]

Richard Owlett wrote:

> Suggestions for finding a suitable tutorial/howto?
> 
>> For
>> example I like "learn in 21 days" and you can google "learn mysql in 21
>> days"
> 
> There's a obviously pirated copy in Russia :<

https://www.tutorialspoint.com/mysql/index.htm
http://www.mysqltutorial.org/basic-mysql-tutorial.aspx

from https://www.quora.com/How-can-I-learn-MySQL-in-21-days

regards

Re: Problems installing MariaDB

[Richard Owlett]

On 06/29/2018 03:01 PM, deloptes wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:


The initial setup to create users and associated passwords specifically.
Also anything else required for using it for the first time.


Hi,
as you stated that you have time, just read some good howto. You must know
that MariaDB is MySQL, so any MySQL introductory lesson will help.


How to find a suitable one?
The ones I find are written assuming things that are never identified or 
use some distro specific hack. Many presume a WEB-SERVER is involved. I 
understand that MySQL's definition of server is somehow different.


My Debian install is minimalist. When given the opportunity near end of 
install I specified only MATE desktop and 'standard' utilities.


When in actual use my laptop will have *NO* connection to outside world.

Suggestions for finding a suitable tutorial/howto?


For
example I like "learn in 21 days" and you can google "learn mysql in 21
days"


There's a obviously pirated copy in Russia :<

Re: Problems installing MariaDB

[Joe]

On Sat, 30 Jun 2018 06:55:56 -0500
Richard Owlett  wrote:

> On 06/29/2018 01:23 PM, Joe wrote:

> > So start
> > learning now, such as how to login, how to reset the root
> > password,  
> 
> How? Haven't found relevant document(s).
> 
Here's a couple to begin with, but the Internet really isn't short of
MySQL documentation. 

https://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql-getting-started/en/

https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/8.0/en/resetting-permissions.html

There's very little explicitly for mariadb yet, but for all practical
purposes, mariadb can be treated as an exact clone of MySQL at the
moment. They may diverge more later.

-- 
Joe

Re: Problems installing MariaDB

[Richard Owlett]

On 06/29/2018 01:23 PM, Joe wrote:

On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 07:59:57 -0500
Richard Owlett  wrote:


I have not used a relational database since dBASEII was current.
About a year ago I attempted to install MariaDB but didn't find
tutorial which was a close enough match to my system.

I found (and attempted to follow) instructions at:
 https://www.tecmint.com/install-mariadb-in-debian/
 https://www.linode.com/docs/databases/mariadb/mariadb-setup-debian/

I successfully did:
 apt-get install software-properties-common
 apt-get install mariadb-server mariadb-client

*BUT* both references auto-magically go to a GUI setup screen.
I'm using Debian 9 with MATE.
I don't find anything related on the Applications nor System menus.
Help please.



There has been an issue with mariadb at some time, and I don't know if
it has been fixed yet. I ran into it a year or so ago. MySQL is quite
mature, and there is Debian support for the setup. The mysql-server
package contains extra Debian material. In the beginning, at least,
there was no such support for mariadb, and once installed (with an
empty root password), it was necessary to use the MySQL/mariadb command
line to set such a password.

The Debian mysql-server package contains this additional support, the
mysql-server-core package is slightly smaller, and doesn't. The support
includes the upstream mysql_secure_installation script, which can be
run after the main installation, and which sets a root password and
other simple security measures.

One workaround is to purge mariadb and install MySQL, which is still
available in sid so presumably elsewhere. Go through the startup
dialog, and once it is done, remove MySQL without purging and install
mariabd, which will inherit the databases set up by MySQL.



I did:
used synaptic to completely remove mariadb-* by marking each package
attempted using synaptic to install mysql-server and mysql-client
it failed, reporting broken packages
synaptic's fix command failed
"apt-get check" reported no problems
"apt-get install mysql-server  mysql-client" ran to completion

I then did:
root@debian-jan13:/home/richard# dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server
root@debian-jan13:

I never was asked any questions.
{same as attempting "dpkg-reconfigure mariadb-server}


Another way: if you're going to make any kind of use of MySQL or
mariadb, it is impossible to avoid the command line completely.


No problem as I date back to RSX-11M and CPM-80.
Also used an 026 ;)


So start
learning now, such as how to login, how to reset the root password,


How? Haven't found relevant document(s).


how
to reset the root password if you don't know it but have OS root
access, the way that MySQL permissions are set, not for users alone but
for combinations of users and connecting hosts (wildcards are
available). Don't forget to flush the privileges after every change.
There are masses of tutorials for this stuff.

Re: Problems installing MariaDB

[deloptes]

Richard Owlett wrote:

> The initial setup to create users and associated passwords specifically.
> Also anything else required for using it for the first time.

Hi,
as you stated that you have time, just read some good howto. You must know
that MariaDB is MySQL, so any MySQL introductory lesson will help. For
example I like "learn in 21 days" and you can google "learn mysql in 21
days"

regards

Re: Problems installing MariaDB

[Joe]

On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 07:59:57 -0500
Richard Owlett  wrote:

> I have not used a relational database since dBASEII was current.
> About a year ago I attempted to install MariaDB but didn't find
> tutorial which was a close enough match to my system.
> 
> I found (and attempted to follow) instructions at:
> https://www.tecmint.com/install-mariadb-in-debian/
> https://www.linode.com/docs/databases/mariadb/mariadb-setup-debian/
> 
> I successfully did:
> apt-get install software-properties-common
> apt-get install mariadb-server mariadb-client
> 
> *BUT* both references auto-magically go to a GUI setup screen.
> I'm using Debian 9 with MATE.
> I don't find anything related on the Applications nor System menus.
> Help please.
>

There has been an issue with mariadb at some time, and I don't know if
it has been fixed yet. I ran into it a year or so ago. MySQL is quite
mature, and there is Debian support for the setup. The mysql-server
package contains extra Debian material. In the beginning, at least,
there was no such support for mariadb, and once installed (with an
empty root password), it was necessary to use the MySQL/mariadb command
line to set such a password.

The Debian mysql-server package contains this additional support, the
mysql-server-core package is slightly smaller, and doesn't. The support
includes the upstream mysql_secure_installation script, which can be
run after the main installation, and which sets a root password and
other simple security measures.

One workaround is to purge mariadb and install MySQL, which is still
available in sid so presumably elsewhere. Go through the startup
dialog, and once it is done, remove MySQL without purging and install
mariabd, which will inherit the databases set up by MySQL.

Another way: if you're going to make any kind of use of MySQL or
mariadb, it is impossible to avoid the command line completely. So start
learning now, such as how to login, how to reset the root password, how
to reset the root password if you don't know it but have OS root
access, the way that MySQL permissions are set, not for users alone but
for combinations of users and connecting hosts (wildcards are
available). Don't forget to flush the privileges after every change.
There are masses of tutorials for this stuff.

Note that recent versions of phpmyadmin, should you choose to use it,
no longer allows either empty passwords or root logins, so this isn't a
back way in. If you will use phpmyadmin, immediately set up another root
MySQL user by another name with every possible permission granted.

For anyone contemplating using mariadb on Android, it is installed with
an empty root password and *no* command line access. It is necessary to
find an SQL client that will log in without choosing a database (not
all do), login as root with no password, then use the SQL versions of
commands to set passwords, users etc.

-- 
Joe

Re: Problems installing MariaDB

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 29 June 2018 09:22:56 Darac Marjal wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 07:59:57AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> >I have not used a relational database since dBASEII was current.
> >About a year ago I attempted to install MariaDB but didn't find
> >tutorial which was a close enough match to my system.
> >
> >I found (and attempted to follow) instructions at:
> >   https://www.tecmint.com/install-mariadb-in-debian/
> >  
> > https://www.linode.com/docs/databases/mariadb/mariadb-setup-debian/
> >
> >I successfully did:
> >   apt-get install software-properties-common
>
> This is not strictly necessary. software-properties-common provides
> the program "apt-add-repository" which, in turn, is only required if
> you're installing packages from a different repository (particularly
> Ubuntu PPAs). However, 'mariadb-server' is in all current versions of
> Debian (jessie to sid), so you're best to stick with the Debian
> version.
>
> >   apt-get install mariadb-server mariadb-client
> >
> >*BUT* both references auto-magically go to a GUI setup screen.
>
> This is part of the magic of dpkg called "debconf". "debconf" is a
> system whereby packages can ask a user questions at installation (and
> removal) time and configure themselves accordingly. debconf comes with
> a series of frontends depending on the user's preferred method of
> interaction. What you see in those tutorials (the grey boxes with the
> blue background) is the frontend called "dialog". There are more basic
> fronends (Noninteractive - answers must be provided in a pre-existing
> text file, Readline - questions are asked by a simple plain-text
> prompt and Editor - use your favourite text editor to provide answers)
> as well as more glitzy ones (Gnome and KDE).
>
> Debconf uses a fallback method, too. If you select, say, Gnome as your
> frontend, but are updating outside of an X environment, then debconf
> can fallback to 'dialog' and, if you're installing on a dumb terminal
> (say, your computer is so badly off that you're installing over a
> serial line) it can fallback to readline.
>
> Now, if you're not getting these prompts, then the best place to start
> is by choosing (again) the configuration of debconf. Run:
>
>   # dpkg-reconfigure debconf
>
> and, hopefully, you should first be asked what your preferred frontend
> is. Next, you will be asked to set the LOWEST priority of question you
> want to see. Critical prompts are for questions that might break your
> system (e.g. I would imagine that systemd's take over of init was
> couched as a critical question). High importance are for questions
> that the package needs to know the answer to (but if you don't provide
> that answer, the service probably won't run) and Low importance
> questions are the sort that 99% of people will just skip over.
>
> Finally, once you've reconfigured debconf, try running:
>
>  # dpkg-reconfigure mariadb-server
>
> and you should get prompted for the default password.
>
> >I'm using Debian 9 with MATE.
> >I don't find anything related on the Applications nor System menus.
> >Help please.

This is a far better manpage than the manpage for debconf, which could 
serve as a model for a sparse manpage. I've read that one several times. 
Its good english, but essentially devoid of helpfull info. Shows 
options, but does not adequately describe what they actually do.

Thank you Darac.


-- 
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Re: Problems installing MariaDB

[Richard Owlett]

On 06/29/2018 08:22 AM, Darac Marjal wrote:

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 07:59:57AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

[snip]



Now, if you're not getting these prompts, then the best place to start 
is by choosing (again) the configuration of debconf. Run:


  # dpkg-reconfigure debconf


I did, choosing dialog and low priority.[snip]

Finally, once you've reconfigured debconf, try running:

# dpkg-reconfigure mariadb-server


On the terminal I ran that with root privileges.
NOTHING happened.
I.E. I was immediately given the root prompt



and you should get prompted for the default password.


That was what I desired but did not get.




I'm using Debian 9 with MATE.
I don't find anything related on the Applications nor System menus.
Help please.

Re: Problems installing MariaDB

[Richard Owlett]

On 06/29/2018 08:09 AM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 07:59:57AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

I have not used a relational database since dBASEII was current.
About a year ago I attempted to install MariaDB but didn't find tutorial
which was a close enough match to my system.

I found (and attempted to follow) instructions at:
https://www.tecmint.com/install-mariadb-in-debian/
https://www.linode.com/docs/databases/mariadb/mariadb-setup-debian/

I successfully did:
apt-get install software-properties-common
apt-get install mariadb-server mariadb-client


First, I do not recommend that you follow the instructions on those
pages for adding new repositories.  It is aboslutely unnecessary.
Debian stretch ships official packages for MaraiaDB 10.1 and unless you
have a specific need to use packges from a third-party, it is best to
steer clear of that.


I used the standard Debian repository.





*BUT* both references auto-magically go to a GUI setup screen.
I'm using Debian 9 with MATE.
I don't find anything related on the Applications nor System menus.
Help please.


What specifically is it that you are looking for on the menu?  What are
you trying to do?



The initial setup to create users and associated passwords specifically.
Also anything else required for using it for the first time.

Re: Problems installing MariaDB

[Darac Marjal]

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 07:59:57AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

I have not used a relational database since dBASEII was current.
About a year ago I attempted to install MariaDB but didn't find 
tutorial which was a close enough match to my system.


I found (and attempted to follow) instructions at:
  https://www.tecmint.com/install-mariadb-in-debian/
  https://www.linode.com/docs/databases/mariadb/mariadb-setup-debian/

I successfully did:
  apt-get install software-properties-common


This is not strictly necessary. software-properties-common provides the 
program "apt-add-repository" which, in turn, is only required if you're 
installing packages from a different repository (particularly Ubuntu 
PPAs). However, 'mariadb-server' is in all current versions of Debian 
(jessie to sid), so you're best to stick with the Debian version.



  apt-get install mariadb-server mariadb-client

*BUT* both references auto-magically go to a GUI setup screen.


This is part of the magic of dpkg called "debconf". "debconf" is a 
system whereby packages can ask a user questions at installation (and 
removal) time and configure themselves accordingly. debconf comes with a 
series of frontends depending on the user's preferred method of 
interaction. What you see in those tutorials (the grey boxes with the 
blue background) is the frontend called "dialog". There are more basic 
fronends (Noninteractive - answers must be provided in a pre-existing 
text file, Readline - questions are asked by a simple plain-text prompt 
and Editor - use your favourite text editor to provide answers) as well 
as more glitzy ones (Gnome and KDE).


Debconf uses a fallback method, too. If you select, say, Gnome as your 
frontend, but are updating outside of an X environment, then debconf can 
fallback to 'dialog' and, if you're installing on a dumb terminal (say, 
your computer is so badly off that you're installing over a serial line) 
it can fallback to readline.


Now, if you're not getting these prompts, then the best place to start 
is by choosing (again) the configuration of debconf. Run:


 # dpkg-reconfigure debconf

and, hopefully, you should first be asked what your preferred frontend 
is. Next, you will be asked to set the LOWEST priority of question you 
want to see. Critical prompts are for questions that might break your 
system (e.g. I would imagine that systemd's take over of init was 
couched as a critical question). High importance are for questions that 
the package needs to know the answer to (but if you don't provide that 
answer, the service probably won't run) and Low importance questions are 
the sort that 99% of people will just skip over.


Finally, once you've reconfigured debconf, try running:

# dpkg-reconfigure mariadb-server

and you should get prompted for the default password.


I'm using Debian 9 with MATE.
I don't find anything related on the Applications nor System menus.
Help please.







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Re: Problems installing MariaDB

[tomas]

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On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 07:59:57AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I have not used a relational database since dBASEII was current.
> About a year ago I attempted to install MariaDB but didn't find
> tutorial which was a close enough match to my system.
> 
> I found (and attempted to follow) instructions at:
>https://www.tecmint.com/install-mariadb-in-debian/
>https://www.linode.com/docs/databases/mariadb/mariadb-setup-debian/
> 
> I successfully did:
>apt-get install software-properties-common
>apt-get install mariadb-server mariadb-client

Then it should be installed...

> *BUT* both references auto-magically go to a GUI setup screen.

I don't understand this.

> I'm using Debian 9 with MATE.
> I don't find anything related on the Applications nor System menus.

Nor I understand this. What do you expect?

Note that mariadb-client just installs a command-line database client,
that is, you invoke it in a terminal (most probably it's called "mysql")
and enter SQL commands into it.

For a graphical client, I think the usual suspect will be phpmyadmin,
which is a Web interface written in PHP.

Sorry I couldn't be more specific, but perhaps this helps us find
the right direction.

Cheers
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Re: Problems installing MariaDB

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 07:59:57AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I have not used a relational database since dBASEII was current.
> About a year ago I attempted to install MariaDB but didn't find tutorial
> which was a close enough match to my system.
> 
> I found (and attempted to follow) instructions at:
>https://www.tecmint.com/install-mariadb-in-debian/
>https://www.linode.com/docs/databases/mariadb/mariadb-setup-debian/
> 
> I successfully did:
>apt-get install software-properties-common
>apt-get install mariadb-server mariadb-client

First, I do not recommend that you follow the instructions on those
pages for adding new repositories.  It is aboslutely unnecessary.
Debian stretch ships official packages for MaraiaDB 10.1 and unless you
have a specific need to use packges from a third-party, it is best to
steer clear of that.

> 
> *BUT* both references auto-magically go to a GUI setup screen.
> I'm using Debian 9 with MATE.
> I don't find anything related on the Applications nor System menus.
> Help please.
> 
What specifically is it that you are looking for on the menu?  What are
you trying to do?

Regards,

-Roberto

-- 
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Problems installing MariaDB

[Richard Owlett]

I have not used a relational database since dBASEII was current.
About a year ago I attempted to install MariaDB but didn't find tutorial 
which was a close enough match to my system.


I found (and attempted to follow) instructions at:
   https://www.tecmint.com/install-mariadb-in-debian/
   https://www.linode.com/docs/databases/mariadb/mariadb-setup-debian/

I successfully did:
   apt-get install software-properties-common
   apt-get install mariadb-server mariadb-client

*BUT* both references auto-magically go to a GUI setup screen.
I'm using Debian 9 with MATE.
I don't find anything related on the Applications nor System menus.
Help please.

Re: Problems installing AMD64 Debian

[Brian]

On Wed 16 May 2018 at 13:43:17 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

> On 05/16/2018 01:01 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
> > Richard Owlett composed on 2018-05-16 12:15 (UTC-0500):
> > 
> > > My first question, is a ThinkPad T510 having a Intel i5 processor
> > > capable of running it.
> > 
> > > The netinst appeared to run.
> > > I comes up.
> > > But neither the standard 32 bit version of SeaMonkey nor a late beta of
> > > a 64bit version will launch.
> > 
> > > The only know atypical choice was to not allow the installer to create a
> > > swap partition.
> > 
> > "Launch" how? If you "launch" it from a terminal window you can see error
> > messages giving clues to the failure(s).
> > 
> 
> DUH ;/
> Too used to just double clicking from Caja.
> Evidently a missing dependency.
> 
> Error Message:
> 
> > richard@debian64:~$ /home/richard/Downloads/seamonkey/seamonkey
> > XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /home/richard/Downloads/seamonkey/libxul.so:
> > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.23' not 
> > found (required by /home/richard/Downloads/seamonkey/libxul.so)
> > Couldn't load XPCOM.
> > richard@debian64:~$

Ah, I see. seamonkey is not included on an amd64 Debian ISO. The user
has to install it from elsewhere and responders to your post have to
guess this is the situation. They suffer information underload.:)

-- 
Brian.

Re: Problems installing AMD64 Debian

[Richard Owlett]

On 05/16/2018 01:01 PM, Felix Miata wrote:

Richard Owlett composed on 2018-05-16 12:15 (UTC-0500):


My first question, is a ThinkPad T510 having a Intel i5 processor
capable of running it.



The netinst appeared to run.
I comes up.
But neither the standard 32 bit version of SeaMonkey nor a late beta of
a 64bit version will launch.



The only know atypical choice was to not allow the installer to create a
swap partition.


"Launch" how? If you "launch" it from a terminal window you can see error
messages giving clues to the failure(s).



DUH ;/
Too used to just double clicking from Caja.
Evidently a missing dependency.

Error Message:


richard@debian64:~$ /home/richard/Downloads/seamonkey/seamonkey
XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /home/richard/Downloads/seamonkey/libxul.so:
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.23' not found 
(required by /home/richard/Downloads/seamonkey/libxul.so)
Couldn't load XPCOM.
richard@debian64:~$ 

Re: Problems installing AMD64 Debian

[Brian]

On Wed 16 May 2018 at 12:15:05 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

> My first question, is a ThinkPad T510 having a Intel i5 processor capable of
> running it.

A number of positive search engine hits with "debian ThinkPad T510"
would inspire confidence,
> 
> The netinst appeared to run.
> I comes up.

A netinst either runs flawlessly or it doesn't. You indicate it does
its job and installs the OS.

> But neither the standard 32 bit version of SeaMonkey nor a late beta of a
> 64bit version will launch.

This is after the installation, of course. "Will not launch" is a bit
vague. There is bound to be someone who wants detail.

> The only know atypical choice was to not allow the installer to create a
> swap partition.

Of no consequence.

-- 
Brian.

Re: Problems installing AMD64 Debian

[Felix Miata]

Richard Owlett composed on 2018-05-16 12:15 (UTC-0500):

> My first question, is a ThinkPad T510 having a Intel i5 processor 
> capable of running it.

> The netinst appeared to run.
> I comes up.
> But neither the standard 32 bit version of SeaMonkey nor a late beta of 
> a 64bit version will launch.

> The only know atypical choice was to not allow the installer to create a 
> swap partition.

"Launch" how? If you "launch" it from a terminal window you can see error
messages giving clues to the failure(s).
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Problems installing AMD64 Debian

[Richard Owlett]

My first question, is a ThinkPad T510 having a Intel i5 processor 
capable of running it.


The netinst appeared to run.
I comes up.
But neither the standard 32 bit version of SeaMonkey nor a late beta of 
a 64bit version will launch.


The only know atypical choice was to not allow the installer to create a 
swap partition.

problems installing jessie on Dell R815 and C6145

[Jeffrey Mark Siskind]

I have a Debian farm of 24 machines running wheezy that I am upgrading to
jessie. Four of the machines are identical Dell R815 servers, each with 6
disks. (The others are Dell T5500 with 4 disks each (12 machines), Dell C6145
with 4 disks each (4 machines), or HP Proliant DL165 G5p with 3 disks each (4
machines).) All of the machines of each type are identical. Upgrading the
T5500, C6154, and DL165 is progressing with only minor issues that I will get
into if it matters. But I am having difficulty with the R815. So far, I have
only attempted to upgrade one machine. The other 3 are still running wheezy.
All have been running wheezy reliably for about 5 years.

I have made a USB flash drive with:

   
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.5.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-8.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso
   
http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/boot.img.gz

I have used this to successfully install jessie on six of the T5500, one of
the DL165, and one of the C6145. But on the R815, I notice nondeterministic
behavior. I have tried the install about 7 times. All 7 succesfully boot into
the install screen. I select

  Install (default)
  English (default)
  United States (default)
  American English (default)

It then searches for hardware and an ISO image. Four of the seven times, I get
a red screen that claims that it can't find an ISO image. Three of the seven
times, it finds one, proceeds with the install, but fails during the grub
install. Each of those three times, it failed in different ways. I can
describe the precise ways in followup email if someone can help. I'm not
including the details here to avoid clutter.

The machine was running wheezy reliably until a few days ago.

The identical install media (a USB flash drive) has successfully been used to
install jessie on the T5500, DL165, and C6145, both before and after the
attempts on the R815. So I believe that the media is OK.

Because of the nondeterministic behavior, and the fact that the machine was
running reliably, I believe that there are no hardware problems, at least not
ones that were tickled by wheezy. Perhaps there are hardware problems that are
tickled by jessie. I conjecture that there may be kernel or installer changes
that no longer work reliably on R815 hardware.

What also may help in diagnosing the issues is the following observation.
While the installs on six T5500s and one C6145 were all successful, the
install on the C6145 took about 3 hours, while each install on a T5500 took
about 15 minutes. The T5500s and C6145 both have the same number of disks of
the same size. And all are partitioned and configured identically. So one
would not expect much difference in install time. Yet when installing on the
C6145, the steps that involve probing hardware take hours while those steps on
on the T5500 are instantaneous. This suggests that there have been software
issues introduced into the installer and/or kernel that affect the R815 and
C6145 platforms.

FWIW, the c-a-f4 vt during the install on the C6145 has a huge number of
messages:

   reset high-speed usb device number 6 using ehci-pc
   reset high-speed usb device number 7 using ehci-pc

Even after the successful install, dmesg on that machine gives a huge number
of

[18660.329918] usb 1-5.2: reset high-speed USB device number 5 using ehci-pci

I have nothing plugged into USB on that machine.

That machine was running wheezy reliably for 5 years prior to the upgrade to
jessie.

Jeff (http://engineering.purdue.edu/~qobi)

parallel perl (was Re: Problems installing Perl modules with CPAN on Wheezy)

[Joel Rees]

Joel Roth's post on /usr/local reminded me of something about using
cpan and perl.

I used to use perl on Mac OS X. About the first word of advice we used
to give on the Mac OS X perl mail list was, do NOT overwrite the
system perl. Install another perl interpreter separately, in parallel
with the system perl, in /usr/local or /opt or such. Use the #! line
in your scripts to point to the interpreter for your separately
installed perl. Then you can have an up-to-date perl and use cpan and
not worry about messing up the system's perl. (You just have to then
remember to keep the perl stuff up to date yourself.)

If you really need to use modules available only from SPAN, (not
available or wrong version in the distro repositories), that would be
what you would want to do here in debian, as well.

-- 
Joel Rees

Be careful where you see conspiracy.
Look first in your own heart.


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Re: Problems installing Perl modules with CPAN on Wheezy

[slitt]

On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 21:25:41 -0700
David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote:

 On 06/27/2014 09:15 AM, Darac Marjal wrote:
  For the record, you might find it more useful to check if Debian
  has a package first, before resorting to CPAN.
 
 +1
 
 
 I've destabilized Debian stable with non-Debian software, including
 CPAN modules.  Now I am loath to install anything except via
 'apt-get'.


LOL, at a client's place, I was trying to customize the
Perl-written Interchange web store software (don't ever use it, it's
an atrocity) on circa 2003 Red Hat, and had to use CPAN for a new
capability. That CPAN download broke the client's Vim and some other
softwares. It took me 2 hours to undo the damage.

That was the beginning of the end of my relationship with Perl.

Steve

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Re: Problems installing Perl modules with CPAN on Wheezy

[Chris Bannister]

On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 09:14:09AM -0400, slitt wrote:
 On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 21:25:41 -0700
 David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote:
 
  On 06/27/2014 09:15 AM, Darac Marjal wrote:
   For the record, you might find it more useful to check if Debian
   has a package first, before resorting to CPAN.
  
  +1
  
  
  I've destabilized Debian stable with non-Debian software, including
  CPAN modules.  Now I am loath to install anything except via
  'apt-get'.
 
 
 LOL, at a client's place, I was trying to customize the
 Perl-written Interchange web store software (don't ever use it, it's
 an atrocity) on circa 2003 Red Hat, and had to use CPAN for a new
 capability. That CPAN download broke the client's Vim and some other
 softwares. It took me 2 hours to undo the damage.
 
 That was the beginning of the end of my relationship with Perl.

That would have been the beginning of the end of my relationship with
Red Hat! I think you blamed the wrong suspect. :(

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Re: Problems installing Perl modules with CPAN on Wheezy

[slitt]

On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 01:59:31 +1200
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:

 On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 09:14:09AM -0400, slitt wrote:
  On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 21:25:41 -0700
  David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote:
  
   On 06/27/2014 09:15 AM, Darac Marjal wrote:
For the record, you might find it more useful to check if Debian
has a package first, before resorting to CPAN.
   
   +1
   
   
   I've destabilized Debian stable with non-Debian software,
   including CPAN modules.  Now I am loath to install anything
   except via 'apt-get'.
  
  
  LOL, at a client's place, I was trying to customize the
  Perl-written Interchange web store software (don't ever use it, it's
  an atrocity) on circa 2003 Red Hat, and had to use CPAN for a new
  capability. That CPAN download broke the client's Vim and some other
  softwares. It took me 2 hours to undo the damage.
  
  That was the beginning of the end of my relationship with Perl.
 
 That would have been the beginning of the end of my relationship with
 Red Hat! I think you blamed the wrong suspect. :(
 

Yeah, I was already done with Red Hat, and by that time I was solidly a
Mandrake Man.

Speaking of Red Hat, there's a Linux group called LEAP, and 60% of
their technical messages boil down to Fedora screwed me again!.

Steve

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Re: Problems installing Perl modules with CPAN on Wheezy

[Lisi Reisz]

On Saturday 28 June 2014 18:07:19 slitt wrote:
 Speaking of Red Hat, there's a Linux group called LEAP, and 60% of
 their technical messages boil down to Fedora screwed me again!.

Careful Steve!  You'll be accused of sniping again. ;-)

Lisi


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Re: Problems installing Perl modules with CPAN on Wheezy

[slitt]

On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 20:01:09 +0100
Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Saturday 28 June 2014 18:07:19 slitt wrote:
  Speaking of Red Hat, there's a Linux group called LEAP, and 60% of
  their technical messages boil down to Fedora screwed me again!.
 
 Careful Steve!  You'll be accused of sniping again. ;-)
 
 Lisi

I don't know why. I'm just minding my own business, lying in the tall
grass, rifle in hand, gazing intently at everything in front of me.

But seriously, Troubleshooters.Com switched from Red Hat to Caldera in
2000, and to Mandrake in 2000 or 2001. The only things I did with Red
Hat after that was:

1) Taught a Linux class using Red Hat in 2003. The class was a dismal
   failure.

2) 2005 to present: Listened to the guys on LEAP say how much they love
   Fedora, but they can't get sound to work, can't get this to work,
   can't get that to work.

3) A couple weeks ago, booted Fedora Live to test whether a problem was
   hardware or software. Fedora did not perform well enough to take the
   necessary measurements.

Boom!

SteveT

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Re: Problems installing Perl modules with CPAN on Wheezy

[Joel Roth]

On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 09:14:09AM -0400, slitt wrote:
 On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 21:25:41 -0700
 David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote:
 
  On 06/27/2014 09:15 AM, Darac Marjal wrote:
   For the record, you might find it more useful to check if Debian
   has a package first, before resorting to CPAN.
  
  +1
  
  
  I've destabilized Debian stable with non-Debian software, including
  CPAN modules.  Now I am loath to install anything except via
  'apt-get'.
 
 
 LOL, at a client's place, I was trying to customize the
 Perl-written Interchange web store software (don't ever use it, it's
 an atrocity) on circa 2003 Red Hat, and had to use CPAN for a new
 capability. That CPAN download broke the client's Vim and some other
 softwares. It took me 2 hours to undo the damage.
 
 That was the beginning of the end of my relationship with Perl.

People have ended relationships for less ;-)

Installing new modules in Debian as root using a CPAN client
(cpan or cpanm) is rather uncertain, as modules get into
/usr/local. The Debian package management system knows
nothing about them, and so the system can lose its
consistency.

As a consequence, if your application requires perl modules
that *aren't* packaged by Debian (and therefore aren't
available through apt-get) it is usually better leave the
system perl alone.

You can install modules in your $HOME directory in two ways:

* Using local::lib - in this case you change your
  environment so that only your user sees the new
  modules (system perl is not disturbed.)

* Using perlbrew (which I prefer) to create
  one or more complete perl installations in $HOME.
  You can switch between them, or back to the
  system perl, as necessary. 

I wouldn't recommend mixing local::lib and perlbrew.

greetings,

Joel
 
 Steve
 
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Problems installing Perl modules with CPAN on Wheezy

[Andrew Wood]

Im not experienced with Perl so I dont know much about CPAN but on 
Jessie I have been able to install DBI and the DBD::mysqlPP modules using

cpan DBI
cpan DBD::mysqlPP

however on Wheezy I just get the following...

snipped
Checking if your kit is complete...
Looks good

I see you're using perl 5.014002 on 
i486-linux-gnu-thread-multi-64int, okay.

Remember to actually *read* the README file!
Use  'make' to build the software (dmake or nmake on Windows).
Then 'make test' to execute self tests.
Then 'make install' to install the DBI and then delete this working
directory before unpacking and building any DBD::* drivers.

Writing Makefile for DBI
Writing MYMETA.yml
  TIMB/DBI-1.631.tar.gz
  make -- NOT OK
'YAML' not installed, will not store persistent state
Running make test
  Can't test without successful make
Running make install
  Make had returned bad status, install seems impossible

Can anyone please enlighten me as to why this works on Jessie but not 
Wheezy?


Thanks
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Re: Problems installing Perl modules with CPAN on Wheezy

[Andrew Wood]

Sorry just worked this out, the system I was on hadnt had make or g++ 
install. Whoops


On 27/06/2014 15:59, Andrew Wood wrote:
Im not experienced with Perl so I dont know much about CPAN but on 
Jessie I have been able to install DBI and the DBD::mysqlPP modules using

cpan DBI
cpan DBD::mysqlPP

however on Wheezy I just get the following...

snipped
Checking if your kit is complete...
Looks good

I see you're using perl 5.014002 on 
i486-linux-gnu-thread-multi-64int, okay.

Remember to actually *read* the README file!
Use  'make' to build the software (dmake or nmake on Windows).
Then 'make test' to execute self tests.
Then 'make install' to install the DBI and then delete this working
directory before unpacking and building any DBD::* drivers.

Writing Makefile for DBI
Writing MYMETA.yml
  TIMB/DBI-1.631.tar.gz
  make -- NOT OK
'YAML' not installed, will not store persistent state
Running make test
  Can't test without successful make
Running make install
  Make had returned bad status, install seems impossible

Can anyone please enlighten me as to why this works on Jessie but not 
Wheezy?


Thanks
Andrew






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Re: Problems installing Perl modules with CPAN on Wheezy

[Darac Marjal]

On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 03:59:59PM +0100, Andrew Wood wrote:
 Im not experienced with Perl so I dont know much about CPAN but on Jessie I
 have been able to install DBI and the DBD::mysqlPP modules using
 cpan DBI
 cpan DBD::mysqlPP

For the record, you might find it more useful to check if Debian has a
package first, before resorting to CPAN. Debian usually refers to perl
modules as libpackage-subpackage-perl (so DBI becomes libdbi-perl,
DBB::Mysql becomes libdb-mysql-perl and so on).

The advantage of getting the package from Debian is the same as for any
other software: updates come in just like any other package, security
updates are handled in a stable manner and so on. If you install a
package through CPAN, then you have to remember to keep it up to date,
you have to handle possible version mismatches and so on.

Sometimes you do have to resort to installing from CPAN, but it behooves
a good operator to check Debian first :)

 
 however on Wheezy I just get the following...
 
 snipped
 Checking if your kit is complete...
 Looks good
 
 I see you're using perl 5.014002 on i486-linux-gnu-thread-multi-64int,
 okay.
 Remember to actually *read* the README file!
 Use  'make' to build the software (dmake or nmake on Windows).
 Then 'make test' to execute self tests.
 Then 'make install' to install the DBI and then delete this working
 directory before unpacking and building any DBD::* drivers.
 
 Writing Makefile for DBI
 Writing MYMETA.yml
   TIMB/DBI-1.631.tar.gz
   make -- NOT OK
 'YAML' not installed, will not store persistent state
 Running make test
   Can't test without successful make
 Running make install
   Make had returned bad status, install seems impossible
 
 Can anyone please enlighten me as to why this works on Jessie but not
 Wheezy?
 
 Thanks
 Andrew
 
 
 
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Re: Problems installing Perl modules with CPAN on Wheezy

[David Christensen]

On 06/27/2014 09:15 AM, Darac Marjal wrote:

For the record, you might find it more useful to check if Debian has a
package first, before resorting to CPAN.


+1


I've destabilized Debian stable with non-Debian software, including CPAN 
modules.  Now I am loath to install anything except via 'apt-get'.



David


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Problems Installing ia32-libs

[Mark Phillips]

I have a Debian testing amd64 laptop. Only testing, no unstable or
experimental. I need to install ia32-libs to run eclipse in 32 bit mode for
android development.

However, I get a slew of conflicts, and it seems that aptitude wants to
replace a lot of my 64 bit aps with 32 bit apps. Apps like gnome,
gnome-core, empathy, etc. Is this normal or necessary?

I thought the ia32-libs was just supposed to help make it possible to run
32 bit apps on a 64 bit machine, not replace all the 64 bit apps with 32
bit apps. Is that correct?

Here is the output from trying to install ia32-libs in my machine

root@orca:/home/mark# aptitude install ia32-libs
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  esound-common{a} freeglut3:i386 gcc-4.8-base:i386{a} ia32-libs
ia32-libs-i386:i386 krb5-locales{a} lesstif2:i386 libacl1:i386 libaio1:i386
  libasound2:i386{a} libasyncns0:i386 libattr1:i386{a} libaudio2:i386
libaudiofile1:i386 libavahi-client3:i386 libavahi-common-data:i386{a}
  libavahi-common3:i386{a} libbsd0:i386 libc6:i386{a} libc6-i686:i386{a}
libcaca0:i386{a} libcap2:i386 libcomerr2:i386 libcups2:i386 libcurl3:i386
  libdb5.1:i386{a} libdbus-1-3:i386{a} libdirectfb-1.2-9:i386
libdrm-intel1:i386{a} libdrm-nouveau2:i386{a} libdrm-radeon1:i386{a}
libdrm2:i386{a}
  libedit2:i386 libesd0:i386 libexif12:i386 libexpat1:i386{a}
libffi6:i386{a} libflac8:i386{a} libfltk1.1:i386 libfontconfig1:i386{a}
  libfreetype6:i386{a} libgcc1:i386{a} libgcrypt11:i386{a} libgd3:i386{a}
libgdbm3:i386 libgl1-mesa-dri:i386{a} libgl1-mesa-glx:i386{a}
  libglapi-mesa:i386{a} libglu1-mesa:i386 libgnutls26:i386{a}
libgpg-error0:i386{a} libgphoto2-2:i386 libgphoto2-port0:i386{a}
libgpm2:i386{a}
  libgssapi-krb5-2:i386{a} libice6:i386{a} libidn11:i386{a}
libieee1284-3:i386 libjack-jackd2-0:i386 libjbig0:i386 libjpeg62:i386
libjpeg8:i386{a}
  libjson-c2:i386{a} libk5crypto3:i386{a} libkeyutils1:i386{a}
libkrb5-3:i386{a} libkrb5support0:i386{a} liblcms1:i386
libldap-2.4-2:i386{a}
  libllvm3.2:i386{a} libltdl7:i386{a} liblzma5:i386{a} liblzo2-2:i386
libmpg123-0:i386 libncursesw5:i386{a} libnspr4:i386 libnspr4-0d:i386
libnss3:i386
  libnss3-1d:i386 libodbc1:i386 libogg0:i386{a} libopenal1:i386
libopus0:i386{ab} libp11-kit0:i386{a} libpam0g:i386 libpciaccess0:i386{a}
  libpcre3:i386{a} libpng12-0:i386{a} libpopt0:i386 libpulse0:i386{a}
librtmp0:i386{a} libsamplerate0:i386{a} libsane:i386 libsane-extras:i386{a}
  libsasl2-2:i386{a} libsasl2-modules:i386{a} libsdl1.2debian:i386
libselinux1:i386 libsigc++-2.0-0c2a:i386 libslang2:i386{a} libsm6:i386{a}
  libsndfile1:i386{a} libsqlite3-0:i386{a} libssh2-1:i386{a}
libssl1.0.0:i386{a} libstdc++5:i386 libstdc++6:i386{a} libsysfs2:i386
libtasn1-3:i386{a}
  libtdb1:i386 libtiff4:i386{a} libtinfo5:i386{a} libts-0.0-0:i386{a}
libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0:i386{a} libudev0:i386{a} libusb-0.1-4:i386
libusb-1.0-0:i386{a}
  libuuid1:i386{a} libv4l-0:i386{a} libv4lconvert0:i386{a}
libvorbis0a:i386{a} libvorbisenc2:i386{a} libvorbisfile3:i386
libvpx1:i386{a}
  libwrap0:i386{a} libx11-6:i386{a} libx11-xcb1:i386{a} libx86-1:i386
libxau6:i386{a} libxaw7:i386 libxcb-dri2-0:i386{a} libxcb-glx0:i386{a}
  libxcb-render-util0:i386 libxcb-render0:i386{a} libxcb1:i386{a}
libxcomposite1:i386 libxcursor1:i386 libxdamage1:i386{a} libxdmcp6:i386{a}
  libxext6:i386{a} libxfixes3:i386{a} libxft2:i386{a} libxi6:i386{a}
libxinerama1:i386{a} libxml2:i386 libxmu6:i386{a} libxmuu1:i386
libxp6:i386{a}
  libxpm4:i386{a} libxrandr2:i386 libxrender1:i386{a} libxslt1.1:i386
libxss1:i386 libxt6:i386{a} libxtst6:i386{a} libxv1:i386
libxxf86vm1:i386{a}
  odbcinst{a} odbcinst1debian2{a} odbcinst1debian2:i386 uuid-runtime{a}
xaw3dg:i386 zlib1g:i386{a}
0 packages upgraded, 163 newly installed, 0 to remove and 61 not upgraded.
Need to get 52.6 MB of archives. After unpacking 173 MB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libopus0 : Conflicts: libopus0:i386 but 1.1~beta-3 is to be installed.
 libopus0:i386 : Conflicts: libopus0 but 1.1~beta-3 is installed.
Internal error: found 2 (choice - promotion) mappings for a single choice.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

  Remove the following
packages:
1)
anki
2)
cheese
3)
dvdrip
4)
dvgrab
5)
empathy
6)
ffmpeg
7)
gnome
8)
gnome-control-center
9)
gnome-core
10)
gnome-media
11)
gnome-orca
12)
gnome-video-effects
13)
gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
14)
gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
15)
gstreamer1.0-plugins-good
16)
libasound2-plugins
17)
libavcodec54
18)
libavdevice54
19)
libavfilter3
20)
libavformat54
21)
libcanberra-pulse
22)
libcheese-gtk21
23)
libcheese3
24)
libespeak1
25)
libfarstream-0.1-0
26)
libjack-jackd2-0
27)
liblavfile-2.0-0
28)
liblavplay-2.0-0
29)
libmlt++3
30)
libmlt6
31)
libopus0
32)
libportaudio2
33)
libpurple-bin
34)
libpurple0
35)
libquicktime2
36)
libtelepathy-farstream2
37)
libxine2
38)
libxine2-ffmpeg
39)
libxine2-misc-plugins
40)
libxine2-plugins
41)
libxine2-x
42)
melt
43)
mjpegtools
44)
mplayer2
45)
nautilus-sendto-empathy
46)
openshot
47)
opera
48)

Re: Problems Installing ia32-libs

[Mark Phillips]

A follow up. After some research, I tried the following, but no change.

# dpkg --add-architecture i386
# aptitude update
# aptitude upgrade
Resolving dependencies...
No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 61 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
# aptitude install ia32-libs

Aptitude still wants to replace gnome etc with i386 packages.

What am I missing?

Mark


On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Mark Phillips
m...@phillipsmarketing.bizwrote:

 I have a Debian testing amd64 laptop. Only testing, no unstable or
 experimental. I need to install ia32-libs to run eclipse in 32 bit mode for
 android development.

 However, I get a slew of conflicts, and it seems that aptitude wants to
 replace a lot of my 64 bit aps with 32 bit apps. Apps like gnome,
 gnome-core, empathy, etc. Is this normal or necessary?

 I thought the ia32-libs was just supposed to help make it possible to run
 32 bit apps on a 64 bit machine, not replace all the 64 bit apps with 32
 bit apps. Is that correct?

 Here is the output from trying to install ia32-libs in my machine

 root@orca:/home/mark# aptitude install ia32-libs
 The following NEW packages will be installed:
   esound-common{a} freeglut3:i386 gcc-4.8-base:i386{a} ia32-libs
 ia32-libs-i386:i386 krb5-locales{a} lesstif2:i386 libacl1:i386 libaio1:i386
   libasound2:i386{a} libasyncns0:i386 libattr1:i386{a} libaudio2:i386
 libaudiofile1:i386 libavahi-client3:i386 libavahi-common-data:i386{a}
   libavahi-common3:i386{a} libbsd0:i386 libc6:i386{a} libc6-i686:i386{a}
 libcaca0:i386{a} libcap2:i386 libcomerr2:i386 libcups2:i386 libcurl3:i386
   libdb5.1:i386{a} libdbus-1-3:i386{a} libdirectfb-1.2-9:i386
 libdrm-intel1:i386{a} libdrm-nouveau2:i386{a} libdrm-radeon1:i386{a}
 libdrm2:i386{a}
   libedit2:i386 libesd0:i386 libexif12:i386 libexpat1:i386{a}
 libffi6:i386{a} libflac8:i386{a} libfltk1.1:i386 libfontconfig1:i386{a}
   libfreetype6:i386{a} libgcc1:i386{a} libgcrypt11:i386{a} libgd3:i386{a}
 libgdbm3:i386 libgl1-mesa-dri:i386{a} libgl1-mesa-glx:i386{a}
   libglapi-mesa:i386{a} libglu1-mesa:i386 libgnutls26:i386{a}
 libgpg-error0:i386{a} libgphoto2-2:i386 libgphoto2-port0:i386{a}
 libgpm2:i386{a}
   libgssapi-krb5-2:i386{a} libice6:i386{a} libidn11:i386{a}
 libieee1284-3:i386 libjack-jackd2-0:i386 libjbig0:i386 libjpeg62:i386
 libjpeg8:i386{a}
   libjson-c2:i386{a} libk5crypto3:i386{a} libkeyutils1:i386{a}
 libkrb5-3:i386{a} libkrb5support0:i386{a} liblcms1:i386
 libldap-2.4-2:i386{a}
   libllvm3.2:i386{a} libltdl7:i386{a} liblzma5:i386{a} liblzo2-2:i386
 libmpg123-0:i386 libncursesw5:i386{a} libnspr4:i386 libnspr4-0d:i386
 libnss3:i386
   libnss3-1d:i386 libodbc1:i386 libogg0:i386{a} libopenal1:i386
 libopus0:i386{ab} libp11-kit0:i386{a} libpam0g:i386 libpciaccess0:i386{a}
   libpcre3:i386{a} libpng12-0:i386{a} libpopt0:i386 libpulse0:i386{a}
 librtmp0:i386{a} libsamplerate0:i386{a} libsane:i386 libsane-extras:i386{a}
   libsasl2-2:i386{a} libsasl2-modules:i386{a} libsdl1.2debian:i386
 libselinux1:i386 libsigc++-2.0-0c2a:i386 libslang2:i386{a} libsm6:i386{a}
   libsndfile1:i386{a} libsqlite3-0:i386{a} libssh2-1:i386{a}
 libssl1.0.0:i386{a} libstdc++5:i386 libstdc++6:i386{a} libsysfs2:i386
 libtasn1-3:i386{a}
   libtdb1:i386 libtiff4:i386{a} libtinfo5:i386{a} libts-0.0-0:i386{a}
 libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0:i386{a} libudev0:i386{a} libusb-0.1-4:i386
 libusb-1.0-0:i386{a}
   libuuid1:i386{a} libv4l-0:i386{a} libv4lconvert0:i386{a}
 libvorbis0a:i386{a} libvorbisenc2:i386{a} libvorbisfile3:i386
 libvpx1:i386{a}
   libwrap0:i386{a} libx11-6:i386{a} libx11-xcb1:i386{a} libx86-1:i386
 libxau6:i386{a} libxaw7:i386 libxcb-dri2-0:i386{a} libxcb-glx0:i386{a}
   libxcb-render-util0:i386 libxcb-render0:i386{a} libxcb1:i386{a}
 libxcomposite1:i386 libxcursor1:i386 libxdamage1:i386{a} libxdmcp6:i386{a}
   libxext6:i386{a} libxfixes3:i386{a} libxft2:i386{a} libxi6:i386{a}
 libxinerama1:i386{a} libxml2:i386 libxmu6:i386{a} libxmuu1:i386
 libxp6:i386{a}
   libxpm4:i386{a} libxrandr2:i386 libxrender1:i386{a} libxslt1.1:i386
 libxss1:i386 libxt6:i386{a} libxtst6:i386{a} libxv1:i386
 libxxf86vm1:i386{a}
   odbcinst{a} odbcinst1debian2{a} odbcinst1debian2:i386 uuid-runtime{a}
 xaw3dg:i386 zlib1g:i386{a}
 0 packages upgraded, 163 newly installed, 0 to remove and 61 not upgraded.
 Need to get 52.6 MB of archives. After unpacking 173 MB will be used.
 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  libopus0 : Conflicts: libopus0:i386 but 1.1~beta-3 is to be installed.
  libopus0:i386 : Conflicts: libopus0 but 1.1~beta-3 is installed.
 Internal error: found 2 (choice - promotion) mappings for a single choice.
 The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

   Remove the following
 packages:
 1)
 anki
 2)
 cheese
 3)
 dvdrip
 4)
 dvgrab
 5)
 empathy
 6)
 ffmpeg
 7)
 gnome
 8)
 gnome-control-center
 9)
 gnome-core
 10)
 gnome-media
 11)
 gnome-orca
 12)
 gnome-video-effects
 13)
 

Re: Problems Installing ia32-libs

[Gilles Mocellin]

Le 20/09/2013 19:46, Mark Phillips a écrit :

A follow up. After some research, I tried the following, but no change.

# dpkg --add-architecture i386
# aptitude update
# aptitude upgrade
Resolving dependencies...
No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 61 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
# aptitude install ia32-libs

Aptitude still wants to replace gnome etc with i386 packages.

What am I missing?

Mark

[...]

Hello,

With multiarch, you don't need anymore ia32-libs.
Having configured i386 arch, you just have to install 32bits versions of 
the packages you need.

For example, if you need libxyz2, do :
# aptitude install libxyz2:i386




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Re: Problems installing wheezy

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Re: Problems installing wheezy

[Anubhav Yadav]

On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Kailash listskail...@gmail.com wrote:

 Default desktop is Gnome 3. Try watching a video tour of Gnome on youtube.

 Kailash
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http://www.debianuserforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=55t=1515#p14651


Regards,
Anubhav Yadav

Re: Problems installing wheezy

[Gregory Nowak]

On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 04:35:09AM +, Anubhav Yadav wrote:
 Hello everyone, this is my first post here.
 I am facing lot of problems in installing wheezy.
 
 1) I downloaded the dvd-1 image of amd-64 precisely
 debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1 for installing wheezy. I checked the md5sum of my
 downloaded file and it was the same as of the original. So the image was
 verified.
 
 Being a hybrid image, I just ran the following commands to make a bootable
 usb stick
cp debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso /dev/sdc/
sync
 
 As expected the files were copied to the usb. But when I booted my machine,
 it said isolinux missing or something, ie the bootable stick failed.
 
 I then used win32diskimager and it failed too.
 
 After that I used unetbootin which made the usb bootable and the
 installation started too, but the installation failed saying the CD-ROM
 does not seem to contain a valid release file.
 
 As a last resort trying to install through usb, I used universal usb
 installer, which worked. I made all the partition, set all the passwords
 and did other settings, but this installation failed too, this time on base
 installation step saying that it could not download the following packages.
   liblzma (and two more)
 The only reason of mine downloading the dvd image of around 4 gb was to
 avoid using internet as I don't have access to Internet at home.
 
 I don't know whats the problem, I have been at it since two days and still
 unable to install debian. I will be getting a blank dvd and will try to
 burn the image and install it (tomorrow as its 4 am here) Some guys at
 #debian said that usb stick never works for installing debian .
 
 2) I was an ubuntu user for the past 4 years and have decided to move on
 (thanks to the illogical changes to their vision) and made up my mind to
 install debian. As I was very new to installing linux 4 years back, I had
 managed to create just one big partition and mounted it as /.
 So this time before updating to debian, I moved my /home partition to an
 altogether new partition and wanted to mount my /home to this new partition
 while installing debian. Now as I was unable to install debian (see #1) I
 installed mint, and mounted that new partition as /home. Now that /home
 contained a .config folder which is giving many errors at startup on mint,
 Will it happen in debian? Should I really backup my /home partition. While
 on ubuntu I had compiled many software and libraries in my /home folder
 itself. Will they all work again in debian (or mint) or do I need to
 install them again? I had also backed up my /home to an external hardisk so
 I can just copy paste real important stuff into my new home partition on
 debian (or mint) later.
 
 (I was a newbie and didn't new that I should have moved those source files
 to a partition like /usr/ or /opt before compiling them)
 
 Thats it, those are the two problems that I am facing as of yet. I do not
 want to give up so easily, and I really want to be a part of this
 community. Please help me.
 
 (if your have reached here and are still reading
 Thanks (for not getting annoyed at such a big post)
 
 -- 
 Regards,
 Anubhav Yadav

Hello Anubhav. I am new here myself, though a debian user since late
2005. I can't help with your dvd/usb install issue. Hopefully someone
else will be able to. As far as your home partition, I personally tend
not to just take an old home directory, and copy it to home on the new
machine. I call the old home directory old_home for example, and copy
it under the new home directory. Then I go through old_home, and move
from there whatever I want to keep to the new home directory,
verifying that whatever I move isn't going to cause problems.

As far as your custom software, you'll probably need to compile it
again due to newer shared libraries on debian/mint. HTH.

Greg


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Re: Problems installing wheezy

[Anubhav Yadav]

Thanks a lot greg. Exactly what I wanted to hear.  So i have got a backup
of my home in an extern hard disk.  I will only copy documents and other
source files.

However the installation problem still holds.
On Aug 11, 2013 11:31 AM, Gregory Nowak g...@gregn.net wrote:

 On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 04:35:09AM +, Anubhav Yadav wrote:
  Hello everyone, this is my first post here.
  I am facing lot of problems in installing wheezy.
 
  1) I downloaded the dvd-1 image of amd-64 precisely
  debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1 for installing wheezy. I checked the md5sum of
 my
  downloaded file and it was the same as of the original. So the image was
  verified.
 
  Being a hybrid image, I just ran the following commands to make a
 bootable
  usb stick
 cp debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso /dev/sdc/
 sync
 
  As expected the files were copied to the usb. But when I booted my
 machine,
  it said isolinux missing or something, ie the bootable stick failed.
 
  I then used win32diskimager and it failed too.
 
  After that I used unetbootin which made the usb bootable and the
  installation started too, but the installation failed saying the CD-ROM
  does not seem to contain a valid release file.
 
  As a last resort trying to install through usb, I used universal usb
  installer, which worked. I made all the partition, set all the passwords
  and did other settings, but this installation failed too, this time on
 base
  installation step saying that it could not download the following
 packages.
liblzma (and two more)
  The only reason of mine downloading the dvd image of around 4 gb was to
  avoid using internet as I don't have access to Internet at home.
 
  I don't know whats the problem, I have been at it since two days and
 still
  unable to install debian. I will be getting a blank dvd and will try to
  burn the image and install it (tomorrow as its 4 am here) Some guys at
  #debian said that usb stick never works for installing debian .
 
  2) I was an ubuntu user for the past 4 years and have decided to move on
  (thanks to the illogical changes to their vision) and made up my mind to
  install debian. As I was very new to installing linux 4 years back, I had
  managed to create just one big partition and mounted it as /.
  So this time before updating to debian, I moved my /home partition to an
  altogether new partition and wanted to mount my /home to this new
 partition
  while installing debian. Now as I was unable to install debian (see #1) I
  installed mint, and mounted that new partition as /home. Now that /home
  contained a .config folder which is giving many errors at startup on
 mint,
  Will it happen in debian? Should I really backup my /home partition.
 While
  on ubuntu I had compiled many software and libraries in my /home folder
  itself. Will they all work again in debian (or mint) or do I need to
  install them again? I had also backed up my /home to an external hardisk
 so
  I can just copy paste real important stuff into my new home partition on
  debian (or mint) later.
 
  (I was a newbie and didn't new that I should have moved those source
 files
  to a partition like /usr/ or /opt before compiling them)
 
  Thats it, those are the two problems that I am facing as of yet. I do not
  want to give up so easily, and I really want to be a part of this
  community. Please help me.
 
  (if your have reached here and are still reading
  Thanks (for not getting annoyed at such a big post)
 
  --
  Regards,
  Anubhav Yadav

 Hello Anubhav. I am new here myself, though a debian user since late
 2005. I can't help with your dvd/usb install issue. Hopefully someone
 else will be able to. As far as your home partition, I personally tend
 not to just take an old home directory, and copy it to home on the new
 machine. I call the old home directory old_home for example, and copy
 it under the new home directory. Then I go through old_home, and move
 from there whatever I want to keep to the new home directory,
 verifying that whatever I move isn't going to cause problems.

 As far as your custom software, you'll probably need to compile it
 again due to newer shared libraries on debian/mint. HTH.

 Greg


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Re: Problems installing wheezy

[st]

Anubhav Yadav wrote:


Hello everyone, this is my first post here.
I am facing lot of problems in installing wheezy.

1) I downloaded the dvd-1 image of amd-64 precisely debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1
for installing wheezy. I checked the md5sum of my downloaded file and it was
the same as of the original. So the image was verified.

Being a hybrid image, I just ran the following commands to make a bootable usb
stick
cp debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso /dev/sdc/
sync


I'm not sure how it could work at all, device file not being a
directory. Even if it worked, though, it did a wrong thing.

Disk images are to be transferred to disk, not to a file system.

So,

1. Do NOT mount the target flash drive. If something asks you
about that, just click Cancel.

2. Use the appropriate command to copy the *contents* of the
image file to the medium, *not* the *file* itself. Say, if
dmesg confirms that your device was attached as /dev/sdc, do

cat debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso  /dev/sdc

This may be not the optimal way to do this, but would work as
expected. Unless, that is, you're trying to create a bootable
DVD, in which case growisofs is the way to go.

Anyway, please do read the Installation Guide before proceeding.
There may be more problems ahead if you don't.


Now that /home
contained a .config folder which is giving many errors at startup on mint,


Check ownership. Debian assignes UIDs to normal users
starting with 1000. Other systems may use different
values, and that could lead to problems.

ls -l and chown -R are your friends here.


Will it happen in debian?


Maybe. Maybe not. It's all about UID mapping, and there are
no rules cut in stone for this.


Should I really backup my /home partition.


Backups never hurt.


While on
ubuntu I had compiled many software and libraries in my /home folder itself.
Will they all work again in debian (or mint) or do I need to install them
again?


Anyone's guess. While I've been using some self-compiled binaries
since Debian Woody, some other things might get broken.

Whether they work or not, keeping binaries in /home is a very, very
bad habit. /usr/local is the place.


Thats it, those are the two problems that I am facing as of yet.


I've only detected one: you haven't read the documentation.
Get to http://www.debian.org/ before you go any further,
and give the Installation Guide a shot. Half an hour's
reading that can still save you days.

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Re: Problems installing wheezy

[Anubhav Yadav]

Thanks a lot, I read the documentation and mistook the word mounted for
unmounted.

I will be more careful next time.

One question though, Will the installation still need Internet to continue,
in-spite of having downloaded one dvd?


On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:34 AM, st s...@kem.ru wrote:

 Anubhav Yadav wrote:

  Hello everyone, this is my first post here.
 I am facing lot of problems in installing wheezy.

 1) I downloaded the dvd-1 image of amd-64 precisely
 debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1
 for installing wheezy. I checked the md5sum of my downloaded file and it
 was
 the same as of the original. So the image was verified.

 Being a hybrid image, I just ran the following commands to make a
 bootable usb
 stick
 cp debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso /dev/sdc/
 sync


 I'm not sure how it could work at all, device file not being a
 directory. Even if it worked, though, it did a wrong thing.

 Disk images are to be transferred to disk, not to a file system.

 So,

 1. Do NOT mount the target flash drive. If something asks you
 about that, just click Cancel.

 2. Use the appropriate command to copy the *contents* of the
 image file to the medium, *not* the *file* itself. Say, if
 dmesg confirms that your device was attached as /dev/sdc, do

 cat debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso  /dev/sdc

 This may be not the optimal way to do this, but would work as
 expected. Unless, that is, you're trying to create a bootable
 DVD, in which case growisofs is the way to go.

 Anyway, please do read the Installation Guide before proceeding.
 There may be more problems ahead if you don't.


  Now that /home
 contained a .config folder which is giving many errors at startup on mint,


 Check ownership. Debian assignes UIDs to normal users
 starting with 1000. Other systems may use different
 values, and that could lead to problems.

 ls -l and chown -R are your friends here.


  Will it happen in debian?


 Maybe. Maybe not. It's all about UID mapping, and there are
 no rules cut in stone for this.


  Should I really backup my /home partition.


 Backups never hurt.


  While on
 ubuntu I had compiled many software and libraries in my /home folder
 itself.
 Will they all work again in debian (or mint) or do I need to install them
 again?


 Anyone's guess. While I've been using some self-compiled binaries
 since Debian Woody, some other things might get broken.

 Whether they work or not, keeping binaries in /home is a very, very
 bad habit. /usr/local is the place.


  Thats it, those are the two problems that I am facing as of yet.


 I've only detected one: you haven't read the documentation.
 Get to http://www.debian.org/ before you go any further,
 and give the Installation Guide a shot. Half an hour's
 reading that can still save you days.

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Re: Problems installing wheezy

[Chris Bannister]

[Please don't top post on this list, see:
http://catb.org/jargon/html/T/top-post.html]

On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 07:00:37AM +, Anubhav Yadav wrote:
 Thanks a lot, I read the documentation and mistook the word mounted for
 unmounted.
 
 I will be more careful next time.
 
 One question though, Will the installation still need Internet to continue,
 in-spite of having downloaded one dvd?

No, you will end up with a running system. In saying that, of course, it
all depends on what software you want to run. If you can be a bit more
specific about what software you want to run then I think there is a
list somewhere of the packages which are on each CD/DVD. But in nearly
all circumstances I think the first DVD is sufficient or the first 3
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Re: Problems installing wheezy

[Brian]

On Sun 11 Aug 2013 at 07:00:37 +, Anubhav Yadav wrote:

 Thanks a lot, I read the documentation and mistook the word mounted for
 unmounted.

Can we clear on this so that people do not lose confidence in using an
isohybrid image?

1. You ensured the USB device was unmounted.

2. You did either

  cp debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso /dev/sdc

   or

  cat debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso  /dev/sdc

   (Both commands are equally as good).

3. Booting the stick now succeeded.


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Re: Problems installing wheezy

[Kailash]

On Sunday 11 August 2013 12:05 PM, Anubhav Yadav wrote:

Thanks a lot greg. Exactly what I wanted to hear.  So i have got a
backup of my home in an extern hard disk.  I will only copy documents
and other source files.

However the installation problem still holds.

On Aug 11, 2013 11:31 AM, Gregory Nowak g...@gregn.net
mailto:g...@gregn.net wrote:

On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 04:35:09AM +, Anubhav Yadav wrote:
  Hello everyone, this is my first post here.
  I am facing lot of problems in installing wheezy.
 
  1) I downloaded the dvd-1 image of amd-64 precisely
  debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1 for installing wheezy. I checked the
md5sum of my
  downloaded file and it was the same as of the original. So the
image was
  verified.
 
  Being a hybrid image, I just ran the following commands to make a
bootable
  usb stick
 cp debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso /dev/sdc/
 sync
 
  As expected the files were copied to the usb. But when I booted
my machine,
  it said isolinux missing or something, ie the bootable stick failed.
 
  I then used win32diskimager and it failed too.
 
  After that I used unetbootin which made the usb bootable and the
  installation started too, but the installation failed saying the
CD-ROM
  does not seem to contain a valid release file.
 
  As a last resort trying to install through usb, I used universal usb
  installer, which worked. I made all the partition, set all the
passwords
  and did other settings, but this installation failed too, this
time on base
  installation step saying that it could not download the following
packages.
liblzma (and two more)
  The only reason of mine downloading the dvd image of around 4 gb
was to
  avoid using internet as I don't have access to Internet at home.
 
  I don't know whats the problem, I have been at it since two days
and still
  unable to install debian. I will be getting a blank dvd and will
try to
  burn the image and install it (tomorrow as its 4 am here) Some
guys at
  #debian said that usb stick never works for installing debian .
 
  2) I was an ubuntu user for the past 4 years and have decided to
move on
  (thanks to the illogical changes to their vision) and made up my
mind to
  install debian. As I was very new to installing linux 4 years
back, I had
  managed to create just one big partition and mounted it as /.
  So this time before updating to debian, I moved my /home
partition to an
  altogether new partition and wanted to mount my /home to this new
partition
  while installing debian. Now as I was unable to install debian
(see #1) I
  installed mint, and mounted that new partition as /home. Now that
/home
  contained a .config folder which is giving many errors at startup
on mint,
  Will it happen in debian? Should I really backup my /home
partition. While
  on ubuntu I had compiled many software and libraries in my /home
folder
  itself. Will they all work again in debian (or mint) or do I need to
  install them again? I had also backed up my /home to an external
hardisk so
  I can just copy paste real important stuff into my new home
partition on
  debian (or mint) later.
 
  (I was a newbie and didn't new that I should have moved those
source files
  to a partition like /usr/ or /opt before compiling them)
 
  Thats it, those are the two problems that I am facing as of yet.
I do not
  want to give up so easily, and I really want to be a part of this
  community. Please help me.
 
  (if your have reached here and are still reading
  Thanks (for not getting annoyed at such a big post)
 
  --
  Regards,
  Anubhav Yadav

Hello Anubhav. I am new here myself, though a debian user since late
2005. I can't help with your dvd/usb install issue. Hopefully someone
else will be able to. As far as your home partition, I personally tend
not to just take an old home directory, and copy it to home on the new
machine. I call the old home directory old_home for example, and copy
it under the new home directory. Then I go through old_home, and move
from there whatever I want to keep to the new home directory,
verifying that whatever I move isn't going to cause problems.

As far as your custom software, you'll probably need to compile it
again due to newer shared libraries on debian/mint. HTH.

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Re: Problems installing wheezy

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On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 07:00:37AM +, Anubhav Yadav wrote:
 Thanks a lot, I read the documentation and mistook the word mounted for
 unmounted.
 
 I will be more careful next time.
 
 One question though, Will the installation still need Internet to continue,
 in-spite of having downloaded one dvd?

Yes, if you want to check for later updates (desirable) and d/l software.

Don't top post.

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Re: Problems installing wheezy

[Anubhav Yadav]

Thanks a lot, I am finally able to install debian using a bootable USB,
just had to leave the stick unmounted before attempting to copy the
contents of the iso.

I also read the whole documentation regarding installing debian for my
architecture, and it really helped. It took me two hours though!

And I also deleted my home partition and created a fresh system, and will
use my backup to restore things that I need.

That said, I am ready to power up my machine. Thanks again.

Ah, yes I am writing this mail on my fresh wheezy!!


On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 12:04 PM, st s...@kem.ru wrote:

 Anubhav Yadav wrote:

  Hello everyone, this is my first post here.
 I am facing lot of problems in installing wheezy.

 1) I downloaded the dvd-1 image of amd-64 precisely
 debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1
 for installing wheezy. I checked the md5sum of my downloaded file and it
 was
 the same as of the original. So the image was verified.

 Being a hybrid image, I just ran the following commands to make a
 bootable usb
 stick
 cp debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso /dev/sdc/
 sync


 I'm not sure how it could work at all, device file not being a
 directory. Even if it worked, though, it did a wrong thing.

 Disk images are to be transferred to disk, not to a file system.

 So,

 1. Do NOT mount the target flash drive. If something asks you
 about that, just click Cancel.

 2. Use the appropriate command to copy the *contents* of the
 image file to the medium, *not* the *file* itself. Say, if
 dmesg confirms that your device was attached as /dev/sdc, do

 cat debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso  /dev/sdc

 This may be not the optimal way to do this, but would work as
 expected. Unless, that is, you're trying to create a bootable
 DVD, in which case growisofs is the way to go.

 Anyway, please do read the Installation Guide before proceeding.
 There may be more problems ahead if you don't.


  Now that /home
 contained a .config folder which is giving many errors at startup on mint,


 Check ownership. Debian assignes UIDs to normal users
 starting with 1000. Other systems may use different
 values, and that could lead to problems.

 ls -l and chown -R are your friends here.


  Will it happen in debian?


 Maybe. Maybe not. It's all about UID mapping, and there are
 no rules cut in stone for this.


  Should I really backup my /home partition.


 Backups never hurt.


  While on
 ubuntu I had compiled many software and libraries in my /home folder
 itself.
 Will they all work again in debian (or mint) or do I need to install them
 again?


 Anyone's guess. While I've been using some self-compiled binaries
 since Debian Woody, some other things might get broken.

 Whether they work or not, keeping binaries in /home is a very, very
 bad habit. /usr/local is the place.


  Thats it, those are the two problems that I am facing as of yet.


 I've only detected one: you haven't read the documentation.
 Get to http://www.debian.org/ before you go any further,
 and give the Installation Guide a shot. Half an hour's
 reading that can still save you days.

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Re: Problems installing wheezy

[Anubhav Yadav]

On Aug 11, 2013 1:56 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:

 On Sun 11 Aug 2013 at 07:00:37 +, Anubhav Yadav wrote:

  Thanks a lot, I read the documentation and mistook the word mounted for
  unmounted.

 Can we clear on this so that people do not lose confidence in using an
 isohybrid image?

 1. You ensured the USB device was unmounted.

I did this mistake and this time I ensured that the usb was UNMOUNTED

 2. You did either

   cp debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso /dev/sdc

or

   cat debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso  /dev/sdc

The second one, but yes both works!


(Both commands are equally as good).

 3. Booting the stick now succeeded.


It sure did!! :)


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Re: Problems installing wheezy

[Anubhav Yadav]

Finally able to boot my machine with my new debian distro! Thanks a lot! I
am gonna stay here forever!

Some post-installation questions,

1) The desktop seems to be unusable, no icons on the desktop and I cannot
right click onto it. Or it normal? Is there a setting to unlock the
desktop? or is something wrong with the installation?

2) Now I have downloaded the dvd-iso-1 and installed debain, I will be
downloading the other too dvds too this week. If I am not connected to the
Internet and I have these iso*s* will I be able to install other packages
using them? Else I will skip downloading them.

Thanks again! Feels great!



On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 5:55 AM, Anubhav Yadav anubhav1...@gmail.comwrote:


 On Aug 11, 2013 1:56 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
 
  On Sun 11 Aug 2013 at 07:00:37 +, Anubhav Yadav wrote:
 
   Thanks a lot, I read the documentation and mistook the word mounted for
   unmounted.
 
  Can we clear on this so that people do not lose confidence in using an
  isohybrid image?
 
  1. You ensured the USB device was unmounted.

 I did this mistake and this time I ensured that the usb was UNMOUNTED

 
  2. You did either
 
cp debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso /dev/sdc
 
 or
 
cat debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso  /dev/sdc

 The second one, but yes both works!

 
 (Both commands are equally as good).
 
  3. Booting the stick now succeeded.
 

 It sure did!! :)

 
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Re: Problems installing wheezy

[Kailash]

On Monday 12 August 2013 06:06 AM, Anubhav Yadav wrote:

Finally able to boot my machine with my new debian distro! Thanks a lot!
I am gonna stay here forever!

Some post-installation questions,

1) The desktop seems to be unusable, no icons on the desktop and I
cannot right click onto it. Or it normal? Is there a setting to unlock
the desktop? or is something wrong with the installation?

2) Now I have downloaded the dvd-iso-1 and installed debain, I will be
downloading the other too dvds too this week. If I am not connected to
the Internet and I have these iso/s/ will I be able to install other
packages using them? Else I will skip downloading them.

Thanks again! Feels great!



On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 5:55 AM, Anubhav Yadav anubhav1...@gmail.com
mailto:anubhav1...@gmail.com wrote:


On Aug 11, 2013 1:56 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk
mailto:a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
 
  On Sun 11 Aug 2013 at 07:00:37 +, Anubhav Yadav wrote:
 
   Thanks a lot, I read the documentation and mistook the word
mounted for
   unmounted.
 
  Can we clear on this so that people do not lose confidence in
using an
  isohybrid image?
 
  1. You ensured the USB device was unmounted.

I did this mistake and this time I ensured that the usb was UNMOUNTED


 
  2. You did either
 
cp debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso /dev/sdc
 
 or
 
cat debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso  /dev/sdc

The second one, but yes both works!

 
 (Both commands are equally as good).
 
  3. Booting the stick now succeeded.
 

It sure did!! :)

 
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Problems installing wheezy

[Anubhav Yadav]

Hello everyone, this is my first post here.
I am facing lot of problems in installing wheezy.

1) I downloaded the dvd-1 image of amd-64 precisely
debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1 for installing wheezy. I checked the md5sum of my
downloaded file and it was the same as of the original. So the image was
verified.

Being a hybrid image, I just ran the following commands to make a bootable
usb stick
   cp debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso /dev/sdc/
   sync

As expected the files were copied to the usb. But when I booted my machine,
it said isolinux missing or something, ie the bootable stick failed.

I then used win32diskimager and it failed too.

After that I used unetbootin which made the usb bootable and the
installation started too, but the installation failed saying the CD-ROM
does not seem to contain a valid release file.

As a last resort trying to install through usb, I used universal usb
installer, which worked. I made all the partition, set all the passwords
and did other settings, but this installation failed too, this time on base
installation step saying that it could not download the following packages.
  liblzma (and two more)
The only reason of mine downloading the dvd image of around 4 gb was to
avoid using internet as I don't have access to Internet at home.

I don't know whats the problem, I have been at it since two days and still
unable to install debian. I will be getting a blank dvd and will try to
burn the image and install it (tomorrow as its 4 am here) Some guys at
#debian said that usb stick never works for installing debian .

2) I was an ubuntu user for the past 4 years and have decided to move on
(thanks to the illogical changes to their vision) and made up my mind to
install debian. As I was very new to installing linux 4 years back, I had
managed to create just one big partition and mounted it as /.
So this time before updating to debian, I moved my /home partition to an
altogether new partition and wanted to mount my /home to this new partition
while installing debian. Now as I was unable to install debian (see #1) I
installed mint, and mounted that new partition as /home. Now that /home
contained a .config folder which is giving many errors at startup on mint,
Will it happen in debian? Should I really backup my /home partition. While
on ubuntu I had compiled many software and libraries in my /home folder
itself. Will they all work again in debian (or mint) or do I need to
install them again? I had also backed up my /home to an external hardisk so
I can just copy paste real important stuff into my new home partition on
debian (or mint) later.

(I was a newbie and didn't new that I should have moved those source files
to a partition like /usr/ or /opt before compiling them)

Thats it, those are the two problems that I am facing as of yet. I do not
want to give up so easily, and I really want to be a part of this
community. Please help me.

(if your have reached here and are still reading
Thanks (for not getting annoyed at such a big post)

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Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Sun, 2012-09-09 at 02:58 -0400, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:
 I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la.  I have tried all night to
 install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of
 different sort.
 Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same
 symptoms)  When starting the install, the screen gets black, there 9is
 a lot of noise from the op0tical drive, and then the process dies! Any
 ideas?
 
 I tried aldo an live cd for debian testing, (3 september variant), but
 that stopped with a different problem, one of the installer programs
 returned with an error, so there is an error in a program on the cd.
 Linux mint debian edition, after some time the installer program
 freezes,
 (happened repeatedly, at various points in the process. Got tired)  Any ideas?

Can you boot into a small Linux on a Live CD, e.g. can you boot into
http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=start ?
Did you test Linux that aren't Debian based? E.g. Suse and/or Fedora?

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Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

[Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen]

Thanks for all the help!  I finally was able to do an installation,
and have now lubuntu 12.10 beta running-

It seems, it is not using th e nonfree nvidia drivers, I do have installed
libvdpau1
ubuntu-drivers-common
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
libgl1-mesa-glx
libgl1-mesa.dri

(all installed by default by the installer)

The problem I mentiones in the original post, that the livecd with
lubuntu went into a black screen, is strange, but I found it could be
solved by using the F3 key.

Kjetil



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ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
 On Sun, 2012-09-09 at 02:58 -0400, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:
 I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la.  I have tried all night to
 install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of
 different sort.
 Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same
 symptoms)  When starting the install, the screen gets black, there 9is
 a lot of noise from the op0tical drive, and then the process dies! Any
 ideas?

 I tried aldo an live cd for debian testing, (3 september variant), but
 that stopped with a different problem, one of the installer programs
 returned with an error, so there is an error in a program on the cd.
 Linux mint debian edition, after some time the installer program
 freezes,
 (happened repeatedly, at various points in the process. Got tired)  Any 
 ideas?

 Can you boot into a small Linux on a Live CD, e.g. can you boot into
 http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=start ?
 Did you test Linux that aren't Debian based? E.g. Suse and/or Fedora?

 Regards,
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Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

[Jude DaShiell]

Have you tried Slackware 13.37 yet?  That might work, I have an ancient 
Dell laptop and Slackware had no problems installing and running on that 
laptop.  It hasn't got an especially large footprint either.

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Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

[Joe]

On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 02:58:39 -0400
Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen kjetil1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la.  I have tried all night to
 install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of
 different sort.
 Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same
 symptoms)  When starting the install, the screen gets black, there 9is
 a lot of noise from the op0tical drive, and then the process dies! Any
 ideas?
 
 I tried aldo an live cd for debian testing, (3 september variant), but
 that stopped with a different problem, one of the installer programs
 returned with an error, so there is an error in a program on the cd.
 Linux mint debian edition, after some time the installer program
 freezes,
 (happened repeatedly, at various points in the process. Got tired)
 Any ideas?
 

The very latest Knoppix? That's likely to get new drivers before most
installable distributions.

Knoppix isn't suitable for permanent installation, as it isn't
maintained, but it's mostly based on Debian sid and drivers should be
transferrable. At the very least, the problem area should be identified.

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Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

[Brian]

On Sun 09 Sep 2012 at 02:58:39 -0400, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:

 I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la.  I have tried all night to
 install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of
 different sort.
 Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same
 symptoms)  When starting the install, the screen gets black, there 9is
 a lot of noise from the op0tical drive, and then the process dies! Any
 ideas?

Contact a Ubuntu mailing list/forum?
 
 I tried aldo an live cd for debian testing, (3 september variant), but
 that stopped with a different problem, one of the installer programs
 returned with an error, so there is an error in a program on the cd.
 Linux mint debian edition, after some time the installer program
 freezes,
 (happened repeatedly, at various points in the process. Got tired)  Any ideas?

This is about as vague as it gets. Some problem in some program on an
unspecified image. Tiredness really has set in. :)

If for some reason you insist on installing Wheezy rather than Squeeze,
an alpha ISO should be less troublesome:

   http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/wheezy_di_alpha1/


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Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

[lee]

Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen kjetil1...@gmail.com writes:

 I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la.  I have tried all night to
 install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of
 different sort.
 Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same
 symptoms)  When starting the install, the screen gets black, there 9is
 a lot of noise from the op0tical drive, and then the process dies! Any
 ideas?

 I tried aldo an live cd for debian testing, (3 september variant), but
 that stopped with a different problem, one of the installer programs
 returned with an error, so there is an error in a program on the cd.
 Linux mint debian edition, after some time the installer program
 freezes,
 (happened repeatedly, at various points in the process. Got tired)  Any ideas?

You need to provide more information, like which installer exactly you
are using and if you have tried the non-graphical installation and what
error messages you get.


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Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 02:58:39 -0400, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:

 I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la.  I have tried all night to
 install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of
 different sort.
 Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same
 symptoms)  When starting the install, the screen gets black, there 9is a
 lot of noise from the op0tical drive, and then the process dies! Any
 ideas?

Yes, try with the text expert installer, disable KMS and jump to a debug 
console just in the event there's something logged there.
 
 I tried aldo an live cd for debian testing, (3 september variant), but
 that stopped with a different problem, one of the installer programs
 returned with an error, so there is an error in a program on the cd.

(...)

Precision does matter. What was the exact error you got?

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Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

[Jude DaShiell]

At least on debian installers it should always be possible after 
language and keyboard selections have been done to drop to the main menu 
so that an installer can first arrange for debug logs to be saved and 
then do a disk integrity check before proceeding with the installation.  
If the disk is no good to start with going any further is just a waste 
of time.  If the integrity is good, and an installer runs into problems 
after that, they'll be recorded in those debug logs.  If the debug logs 
were saved to a floppy, it ought to be possible to replay them later and 
in that event, those are something debian-installer wants you to upload 
into web space and send them the url to the debug logs.  That way they 
can do something about errors in programs on the install media.

On Sun, 9 Sep 2012, Brian wrote:

 On Sun 09 Sep 2012 at 02:58:39 -0400, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:
 
  I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la.  I have tried all night to
  install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of
  different sort.
  Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same
  symptoms)  When starting the install, the screen gets black, there 9is
  a lot of noise from the op0tical drive, and then the process dies! Any
  ideas?
 
 Contact a Ubuntu mailing list/forum?
  
  I tried aldo an live cd for debian testing, (3 september variant), but
  that stopped with a different problem, one of the installer programs
  returned with an error, so there is an error in a program on the cd.
  Linux mint debian edition, after some time the installer program
  freezes,
  (happened repeatedly, at various points in the process. Got tired)  Any 
  ideas?
 
 This is about as vague as it gets. Some problem in some program on an
 unspecified image. Tiredness really has set in. :)
 
 If for some reason you insist on installing Wheezy rather than Squeeze,
 an alpha ISO should be less troublesome:
 
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/wheezy_di_alpha1/
 
 
 

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Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

[Greg Madden]

On Sunday 09 September 2012 6:47:32 am Camaleón wrote:
 On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 02:58:39 -0400, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:
  I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la.  I have tried all night to
  install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of
  different sort.
  Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same
  symptoms)  When starting the install, the screen gets black, there 9is a
  lot of noise from the op0tical drive, and then the process dies! Any
  ideas?

 Yes, try with the text expert installer, disable KMS and jump to a debug
 console just in the event there's something logged there.

afaikt this laptop has the NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M card which needs the lastest 
NVIDIA 295.59 Linux update, from Nvidia. Not sure which Debian version, if any, 
has updated non-free to include this.  Text mode expert install may help.

snip

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Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

[Doug]

On 09/09/2012 02:58 AM, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:

I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la.  I have tried all night to
install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of
different sort.
Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same
symptoms)  When starting the install, the screen gets black, there 9is
a lot of noise from the op0tical drive, and then the process dies! Any
ideas?

I tried aldo an live cd for debian testing, (3 september variant), but
that stopped with a different problem, one of the installer programs
returned with an error, so there is an error in a program on the cd.
Linux mint debian edition, after some time the installer program
freezes,
(happened repeatedly, at various points in the process. Got tired)  Any ideas?

Kjetil


I think I remember someone else having trouble with an HP, and it
turned out that HP has filled up all 4 primary partitions with
stuff for recovery, etc., so there is no place to put another OS.
You'll have to repartition the drive, such that you have a partition
into which you can put secondary partitions for /root and /home,
at the least. Or you could scrub Windows altogether, and
clean the drive out, but that's a bit drastic, unless you know
you'll never need Windows for anything.

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wheezy: problems installing tex-live

[Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen]

Hola!

I have an mostly wheezy system with a few packages from sid (r-base, r-cran
mostly)
Now I cannot install texlive!

kjetil@kjetil:~$ sudo apt-get  install texlive --fix-broken
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 texlive : Depends: texlive-fonts-recommended (= 2009-1) but it is not
going to be installed
   Depends: texlive-latex-recommended (= 2009-1) but it is not
going to be installed
   Depends: texlive-latex-base (= 2009-1) but it is not going to
be installed
E: Broken packages

'What to do?

Kjetil

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Re: wheezy: problems installing tex-live

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Mi, 28 mar 12, 08:53:41, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:
 Hola!
 
 I have an mostly wheezy system with a few packages from sid (r-base, r-cran
 mostly)
 Now I cannot install texlive!

Please post the output of 'apt-cache policy'.
 
 kjetil@kjetil:~$ sudo apt-get  install texlive --fix-broken

Why the --fix-broken, do you have broken packages on your system (try 
'apt-get check')?

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Re: wheezy: problems installing tex-live

[Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen]

see below:

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 09:08, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Mi, 28 mar 12, 08:53:41, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:
  Hola!
 
  I have an mostly wheezy system with a few packages from sid (r-base,
 r-cran
  mostly)
  Now I cannot install texlive!

 Please post the output of 'apt-cache policy'.

  kjetil@kjetil:~$ sudo apt-get  install texlive --fix-broken

 Why the --fix-broken, do you have broken packages on your system (try
 'apt-get check')?


kjetil@kjetil:~$ sudo apt-get check
[sudo] password for kjetil:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done

Then, the output of apt-cache policy:

 kjetil@kjetil:~$ sudo apt-cache policy
Package files:
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 release a=now
 650 http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ testing/non-free amd64 Packages
 release o=Google, Inc.,a=testing,n=testing,l=Google,c=non-free
 origin dl.google.com
 500 http://ftp.cl.debian.org/debian/ unstable/non-free Translation-en
 500 http://ftp.cl.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main Translation-en
 500 http://ftp.cl.debian.org/debian/ unstable/contrib Translation-en
 600 http://ftp.cl.debian.org/debian/ unstable/non-free amd64 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=non-free
 origin ftp.cl.debian.org
 600 http://ftp.cl.debian.org/debian/ unstable/contrib amd64 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=contrib
 origin ftp.cl.debian.org
 600 http://ftp.cl.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=main
 origin ftp.cl.debian.org
 650 http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ testing/non-free amd64 Packages
 release v=None,o=Unofficial Multimedia
Packages,a=testing,n=wheezy,l=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,c=non-free
 origin www.debian-multimedia.org
 650 http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ testing/main amd64 Packages
 release v=None,o=Unofficial Multimedia
Packages,a=testing,n=wheezy,l=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,c=main
 origin www.debian-multimedia.org
 650 http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates/non-free amd64 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=wheezy,l=Debian-Security,c=non-free
 origin security.debian.org
 650 http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates/contrib amd64 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=wheezy,l=Debian-Security,c=contrib
 origin security.debian.org
 650 http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates/main amd64 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=wheezy,l=Debian-Security,c=main
 origin security.debian.org
 550 http://ftp.cl.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/non-free amd64 Packages
 release v=6.0.4,o=Debian,a=stable,n=squeeze,l=Debian,c=non-free
 origin ftp.cl.debian.org
 550 http://ftp.cl.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/contrib amd64 Packages
 release v=6.0.4,o=Debian,a=stable,n=squeeze,l=Debian,c=contrib
 origin ftp.cl.debian.org
 550 http://ftp.cl.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/main amd64 Packages
 release v=6.0.4,o=Debian,a=stable,n=squeeze,l=Debian,c=main
 origin ftp.cl.debian.org
 500 http://ftp.cl.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/non-free Translation-en
 500 http://ftp.cl.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main Translation-en
 500 http://ftp.cl.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/contrib Translation-en
 650 http://ftp.cl.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/non-free amd64 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=wheezy,l=Debian,c=non-free
 origin ftp.cl.debian.org
 650 http://ftp.cl.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/contrib amd64 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=wheezy,l=Debian,c=contrib
 origin ftp.cl.debian.org
 650 http://ftp.cl.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=wheezy,l=Debian,c=main
 origin ftp.cl.debian.org
Pinned packages:

Kjetil


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Re: wheezy: problems installing tex-live

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Mi, 28 mar 12, 09:40:38, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:
 
   kjetil@kjetil:~$ sudo apt-get  install texlive --fix-broken
 
  Why the --fix-broken, do you have broken packages on your system (try
  'apt-get check')?
 
 kjetil@kjetil:~$ sudo apt-get check
 [sudo] password for kjetil:
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done

No problems here, you can forget about '-f'
 
 Then, the output of apt-cache policy:

[snipped and re-ordered]

  650 http://ftp.cl.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages
  release o=Debian,a=testing,n=wheezy,l=Debian,c=main
  origin ftp.cl.debian.org
...
  600 http://ftp.cl.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
  release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=main
  origin ftp.cl.debian.org
...
  550 http://ftp.cl.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/main amd64 Packages
  release v=6.0.4,o=Debian,a=stable,n=squeeze,l=Debian,c=main
  origin ftp.cl.debian.org

You should be able to install texlive with:

apt-get install -t unstable texlive

By the way, in my opinion your setup is a bit too complicated. You would 
achieve the same effect with only

echo 'APT::Default-Release wheezy;'  /etc/apt/apt.conf

and no /etc/apt/preferences at all. This would pin wheezy to 990 and let 
everything else be priority 500.

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Re: wheezy: problems installing tex-live

[Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen]

Thanks!

see below.

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:59, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Mi, 28 mar 12, 09:40:38, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:
  
kjetil@kjetil:~$ sudo apt-get  install texlive --fix-broken
  
   Why the --fix-broken, do you have broken packages on your system (try
   'apt-get check')?
 
  kjetil@kjetil:~$ sudo apt-get check
  [sudo] password for kjetil:
  Reading package lists... Done
  Building dependency tree
  Reading state information... Done

 No problems here, you can forget about '-f'

  Then, the output of apt-cache policy:

 [snipped and re-ordered]

   650 http://ftp.cl.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages
   release o=Debian,a=testing,n=wheezy,l=Debian,c=main
   origin ftp.cl.debian.org
 ...
   600 http://ftp.cl.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
   release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=main
   origin ftp.cl.debian.org
 ...
   550 http://ftp.cl.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/main amd64 Packages
   release v=6.0.4,o=Debian,a=stable,n=squeeze,l=Debian,c=main
   origin ftp.cl.debian.org

 You should be able to install texlive with:

apt-get install -t unstable texlive

 By the way, in my opinion your setup is a bit too complicated. You would
 achieve the same effect with only

echo 'APT::Default-Release wheezy;'  /etc/apt/apt.conf

 and no /etc/apt/preferences at all. This would pin wheezy to 990 and let
 everything else be priority 500.


Thanks! but what I really want is to pin
r-base-*,r-cran-* etc
to always come from unstable. How can I augment /etc/apt/preferences
to do that?

Kjetil


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Re: wheezy: problems installing tex-live

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Mi, 28 mar 12, 12:23:25, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:
 
 Thanks! but what I really want is to pin
 r-base-*,r-cran-* etc
 to always come from unstable. How can I augment /etc/apt/preferences
 to do that?

Based on examples from 'man apt_preferences' (untested):

Package: r-base-*
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: same-as-wheezy

Notes:
- from a quick reading of the man page it seems to be possible to put 
  all patterns space-separated in the Package: field, otherwise just 
  write one stanza for each pattern
- replace same-as-wheezy with the priority for wheezy (650 in your 
  current setup, 990 if you go by my suggestion)
- do check the pin(s) with 'apt-cache policy' and
  'apt-cache policy packagename' before doing any installation/upgrade

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Problems installing/getting Debian (was: lost)

[Camaleón]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 01:44:35 +1100, pastor alexander wrote:

Next time try to choose a meaningful subject.

 i bought the multi dvd set of debian 32 bit and 64 bit and after a week
 of them cocking up i put them in the bin. 

You bought them and something went bad? Then reclaim to the store, you 
can make use of what's called product guarantee.

 i wanted an archive to put on
 my hard drive so i could assemble different distros including straight
 debian without downloading the same files 100 times. the disks were
 hostile and badly presented. next i downloaded the weekly multiarch
 weekly 3.7 gig not even a bloody desktop, you must be joking. keeps
 asking for other dvds i dont have. 

You need to be more precise in your claims so we can help.

- From where did you download the ISO file?
- When are you getting the message of insert the next DVD?

 I have never come across a distro
 with more promise or power than debian. mint failed to satisfy, as did
 mepis, both good mind you. I have been remastering distros for my
 clients for years from pclinuxos without a problem.
 the live debian squeeze disk works like a charm. but i want the
 multiarch with trimmings.
 i spent at least a week in your wiki, its simply too big. get me started
 please.
 this is the only distro i have a problem with. 

It is still not clear what the problem is...

 this is the only community i have not got a sensible response from so
 far. i propose to
   start with multiarch
   add bootcd for easy remastering
   add liquorix as a menu option during boot for my games and
 multimedia

You can open wishlist bug reports for that feautures to be added. Good 
luck with that :-P

 i already have a similar system setup under pclinuxos and it is very
 popular. and easy to do.
 maybe i am not good enough for this distro but i have been a contract
 programmer for years and would like to assist this community if i can
 get up to speed. am willing to submit my distro as a resume if desired.
 regards Pastor Alexander

I maybe too dense today but what's the main problem you are experiencing?

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Re: Problems installing grub/lilo with RAID1 on /

[Felix Natter]

tv.deb...@googlemail.com tv.deb...@googlemail.com writes:

 Hi,

 06/06/2011 20:16, Felix Natter wrote:
 Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com writes:
 
 hello Tom, 
 
 On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Felix Natter
 felix.nat...@smail.inf.fh-brs.de wrote:


 I am trying to install squeeze (from live DVD[1]) with a RAID1 root
 filesystem (/dev/md0).

 There is an error when running grub-install:
 Jun 5 18:38:18 grub-installer: error: Running 'grub-install --no-floppy 
 --force /dev/sda' failed.

 I tried to run it manually:
 chroot /target grub-install --no-floppy --force /dev/sda
 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: no such disk.
 Auto-detection of a filesystem of /dev/md0 failed.
 Please report this together with the output of /usr/sbin/grub-probe 
 --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map --target=fs -v /boot/grub to 
 bug-g...@gnu.org

 Does /target/etc/mtab exist and is it correct?
 
 Seems like it's correct:
 --
 /dev/md0 / ext3 rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered 0 0
 tmpfs /dev tmpfs rw,relatime,mode=755 0 0
 none /proc proc rw,relatime 0 0
 --
 

 chroot /target /usr/sbin/grub-probe --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map 
 --target=fs -v /boot/grub
 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd0 is 488397168.
 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd1 is 488397168.
 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: changing current directory to /dev.
 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: changing current directory to mapper.
 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: opening md0.
 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: no such disk.

 On both Debian and Ubuntu, I used to be able to run dpkg-reconfigure
 grub-pc, choose md0, sda, and sdb, and grub would be installed on all
 
 This results in the same error.
 
 three. For a while now (I can't remember for how long), installing to
 md0's failed.
 
 Is this a known bug or unsupported?

 There have been a longstanding non-reliability of grub-pc with /boot on
 raid1, have a look at the bug tracker and you'll find several reports
 revolving around /boot or / on raid1 (#624232 is mine). Problem is
 solved with the recent mduuid patch that went into grub-pc 1.99 (is in
 Wheezy/Testing). But I don't know if your problem is related to this or
 due to the metadata weirdness (see below).

Thanks for the suggestion, it all works fine with today's testing
(net) installer!

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Re: Problems installing grub/lilo with RAID1 on /

[Felix Natter]

Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com writes:

Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com writes:
 On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Felix Natter
 felix.nat...@smail.inf.fh-brs.de wrote:

 When trying to install lilo (with the debian-installler), I get
 inconsistent raid information (but the RAID1 (2x 208G) was
 created with debian-installer):

 Jun 5 19:22:00 in-target: Running lilo...  Jun 5 19:22:01
 in-target: Fatal: Jun 5 19:22:01 in-target: Inconsistent Raid
 version information on /dev/md0 (RV=0.90 GAI=1.2)

 What do RV and GAI mean? I've googled both and not foudn anything to
 help. 0.90 and 1.2 are mdraid metadata versions. Were these
 disks previously in another array and do you now have two types of
 metada on them?

 No, I did not change any hardware config before reinstalling with
 squeeze. I also had a RAID1 root fs with those two disks before.

hi Tom,

 There may be more to your problem than this but you definitely have a
 metadata problem.

 Some more googing yielded RV and GAI as raid version and get array
 info so your previous mdraid metadata must've been v0.90 and you're
 new metadata's the Squeeze d-i default, v1.2.

 Since they're written to different parts of the HD, they can co-exist
 and must be confusing grub and lilo.

 I only know how to remove all metadata (with --zero-superblock) so I
 have no idea how to fix your problem short of backing up your install,
 recreating your array, and restoring the install... Sorry.

No change after I called:
  mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sda2
  mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sdb2

Next I tried to create the array directly with mdadm and bypassing
partman (d-i partitioner). That way, I can install grub when creating
the array with old metadata:

$ mdadm --create /dev/md0  --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sda2 \
/dev/sdb2 --metadata=0.9

However, when I reboot the system, I get:
---
Gave up waiting for root device. Common Problems:
- Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline): check root=, rootdelay=
- Missing modules (cat /proc/modules; ls /dev)
- ALERT! /dev/md0 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
---

Here is the fstab from the installed system:
---
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a
# device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
# that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
# file system mount point   type  options   dump  pass
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
# / was on /dev/md0 during installation
UUID=0a94e4b3-9b3b-4290-9fa3-9e8ed167136a /   ext3
errors=remount-ro 0   1
# swap was on /dev/sdb1 during installation
UUID=ce46b046-fce5-4298-a06e-2b3680406eaa noneswapsw
  0   0
/dev/scd1   /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
/dev/scd0   /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
/dev/fd0/media/floppy0  autorw,user,noauto  0   0
---

Could it be that the /dev/md0 I created manually is not permanent
because d-i didn't create it (although the manually created /dev/md0
could be seen in partman)?

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Re: Problems installing grub/lilo with RAID1 on /

[Felix Natter]

Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com writes:

hello Tom, 

 On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Felix Natter
 felix.nat...@smail.inf.fh-brs.de wrote:


 I am trying to install squeeze (from live DVD[1]) with a RAID1 root
 filesystem (/dev/md0).

 There is an error when running grub-install:
 Jun 5 18:38:18 grub-installer: error: Running 'grub-install --no-floppy 
 --force /dev/sda' failed.

 I tried to run it manually:
 chroot /target grub-install --no-floppy --force /dev/sda
 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: no such disk.
 Auto-detection of a filesystem of /dev/md0 failed.
 Please report this together with the output of /usr/sbin/grub-probe 
 --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map --target=fs -v /boot/grub to 
 bug-g...@gnu.org

 Does /target/etc/mtab exist and is it correct?

Seems like it's correct:
--
/dev/md0 / ext3 rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered 0 0
tmpfs /dev tmpfs rw,relatime,mode=755 0 0
none /proc proc rw,relatime 0 0
--


 chroot /target /usr/sbin/grub-probe --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map 
 --target=fs -v /boot/grub
 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd0 is 488397168.
 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd1 is 488397168.
 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: changing current directory to /dev.
 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: changing current directory to mapper.
 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: opening md0.
 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: no such disk.

 On both Debian and Ubuntu, I used to be able to run dpkg-reconfigure
 grub-pc, choose md0, sda, and sdb, and grub would be installed on all

This results in the same error.

 three. For a while now (I can't remember for how long), installing to
 md0's failed.

Is this a known bug or unsupported?


 When trying to install lilo (with the debian-installler), I get
 inconsistent raid information (but the RAID1 (2x 208G) was created
 with debian-installer):

 Jun 5 19:22:00 in-target: Running lilo...
 Jun 5 19:22:01 in-target: Fatal:
 Jun 5 19:22:01 in-target: Inconsistent Raid version information on /dev/md0  
 (RV=0.90 GAI=1.2)

 What do RV and GAI mean? I've googled both and not foudn anything to
 help. 0.90 and 1.2 are mdraid metadata versions. Were these disks
 previously in another array and do you now have two types of metada on
 them?

No, I did not change any hardware config before reinstalling with
squeeze. I also had a RAID1 root fs with those two disks before.

I think it is justified to file a bug against debian-installer.

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Re: Problems installing grub/lilo with RAID1 on /

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Hi,

06/06/2011 20:16, Felix Natter wrote:
 Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com writes:
 
 hello Tom, 
 
 On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Felix Natter
 felix.nat...@smail.inf.fh-brs.de wrote:


 I am trying to install squeeze (from live DVD[1]) with a RAID1 root
 filesystem (/dev/md0).

 There is an error when running grub-install:
 Jun 5 18:38:18 grub-installer: error: Running 'grub-install --no-floppy 
 --force /dev/sda' failed.

 I tried to run it manually:
 chroot /target grub-install --no-floppy --force /dev/sda
 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: no such disk.
 Auto-detection of a filesystem of /dev/md0 failed.
 Please report this together with the output of /usr/sbin/grub-probe 
 --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map --target=fs -v /boot/grub to 
 bug-g...@gnu.org

 Does /target/etc/mtab exist and is it correct?
 
 Seems like it's correct:
 --
 /dev/md0 / ext3 rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered 0 0
 tmpfs /dev tmpfs rw,relatime,mode=755 0 0
 none /proc proc rw,relatime 0 0
 --
 

 chroot /target /usr/sbin/grub-probe --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map 
 --target=fs -v /boot/grub
 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd0 is 488397168.
 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd1 is 488397168.
 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: changing current directory to /dev.
 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: changing current directory to mapper.
 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: opening md0.
 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: no such disk.

 On both Debian and Ubuntu, I used to be able to run dpkg-reconfigure
 grub-pc, choose md0, sda, and sdb, and grub would be installed on all
 
 This results in the same error.
 
 three. For a while now (I can't remember for how long), installing to
 md0's failed.
 
 Is this a known bug or unsupported?

There have been a longstanding non-reliability of grub-pc with /boot on
raid1, have a look at the bug tracker and you'll find several reports
revolving around /boot or / on raid1 (#624232 is mine). Problem is
solved with the recent mduuid patch that went into grub-pc 1.99 (is in
Wheezy/Testing). But I don't know if your problem is related to this or
due to the metadata weirdness (see below).


 

 When trying to install lilo (with the debian-installler), I get
 inconsistent raid information (but the RAID1 (2x 208G) was created
 with debian-installer):

 Jun 5 19:22:00 in-target: Running lilo...
 Jun 5 19:22:01 in-target: Fatal:
 Jun 5 19:22:01 in-target: Inconsistent Raid version information on /dev/md0 
  (RV=0.90 GAI=1.2)

 What do RV and GAI mean? I've googled both and not foudn anything to
 help. 0.90 and 1.2 are mdraid metadata versions. Were these disks
 previously in another array and do you now have two types of metada on
 them?
 
 No, I did not change any hardware config before reinstalling with
 squeeze. I also had a RAID1 root fs with those two disks before.
 
 I think it is justified to file a bug against debian-installer.
 
 Thanks,

Since the different metadata were not stored at the place, it may be
possible that your disks retained the old metadata (0.90) together with
the new ones (1.2). Did you mdadm --zero-superblock your volumes et
some point before doing a new install ? What does mdadm --examine
$(raid_member) tell you ?


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Re: Re: Problems installing grub/lilo with RAID1 on /

[Tom H]

Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com writes:
 On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Felix Natter
 felix.nat...@smail.inf.fh-brs.de wrote:

 When trying to install lilo (with the debian-installler), I get
 inconsistent raid information (but the RAID1 (2x 208G) was created
 with debian-installer):

 Jun 5 19:22:00 in-target: Running lilo...
 Jun 5 19:22:01 in-target: Fatal:
 Jun 5 19:22:01 in-target: Inconsistent Raid version information on /dev/md0 
  (RV=0.90 GAI=1.2)

 What do RV and GAI mean? I've googled both and not foudn anything to
 help. 0.90 and 1.2 are mdraid metadata versions. Were these disks
 previously in another array and do you now have two types of metada on
 them?

 No, I did not change any hardware config before reinstalling with
 squeeze. I also had a RAID1 root fs with those two disks before.

There may be more to your problem than this but you definitely have a metadata 
problem.

Some more googing yielded RV and GAI as raid version and get array info so 
your previous mdraid metadata must've been v0.90 and you're new metadata's the 
Squeeze d-i default, v1.2.

Since they're written to different parts of the HD, they can co-exist and must 
be confusing grub and lilo.

I only know how to remove all metadata (with --zero-superblock) so I have no 
idea how to fix your problem short of backing up your install, recreating your 
array, and restoring the install... Sorry.


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Problems installing grub/lilo with RAID1 on /

[Felix Natter]

hello,

I am trying to install squeeze (from live DVD[1]) with a RAID1 root
filesystem (/dev/md0).

[1] 
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current-live/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-6.0.1-i386-gnome-desktop.iso

There is an error when running grub-install:
-
Jun  5 18:38:08 50mounted-tests: debug: running subtest 
/usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/90linux-distro
Jun  5 18:38:08 50mounted-tests: debug: running subtest 
/usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/90solaris
Jun  5 18:38:16 grub-installer: info: Installing grub on '/dev/sda'
Jun  5 18:38:16 grub-installer: info: grub-install supports --no-floppy
Jun  5 18:38:16 grub-installer: info: Running chroot /target grub-install  
--no-floppy --force /dev/sda
Jun  5 18:38:18 grub-installer: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: no such disk.
Jun  5 18:38:18 grub-installer: Auto-detection of a filesystem of /dev/md0 
failed.
Jun  5 18:38:18 grub-installer: Please report this together with the output of 
/usr/sbin/grub-probe --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map --target=fs -v 
/boot/grub to bug-g...@gnu.org
Jun  5 18:38:18 grub-installer: error: Running 'grub-install  --no-floppy 
--force /dev/sda' failed.
Jun  5 18:39:51 init: starting pid 361, tty '/dev/tty3': '-/bin/sh'
-

I tried to run it manually:
-
chroot /target grub-install --no-floppy --force /dev/sda
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: no such disk.
Auto-detection of a filesystem of /dev/md0 failed.
Please report this together with the output of /usr/sbin/grub-probe 
--device-map=/boot/grub/device.map --target=fs -v /boot/grub to 
bug-g...@gnu.org
-

Should I report this as d-i bug?

The output of grub-probe is as follows:
-
chroot /target /usr/sbin/grub-probe --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map 
--target=fs -v /boot/grub
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd0 is 488397168.
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd0 is 488397168.
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd0 is 488397168.
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd0 is 488397168.
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd1 is 488397168.
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd1 is 488397168.
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd1 is 488397168.
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd1 is 488397168.
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd1 is 488397168.
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd0 is 488397168.
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd0 is 488397168.
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd0 is 488397168.
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd0 is 488397168.
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd1 is 488397168.
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd1 is 488397168.
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd1 is 488397168.
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd1 is 488397168.
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd1 is 488397168.
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: changing current directory to /dev.
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: changing current directory to mapper.
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: opening md0.
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: no such disk.
-

Should I report this to grub-bug?

Is there a way to tell grub-install that this is a ext3 filesystem?

Here is /target/fstab:
-
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a
# device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
# that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
# file system mount point   type  options   dump  pass
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
# / was on /dev/md0 during installation
UUID=602edfeb-17c2-4904-a972-ffaa89496418 /   ext3
errors=remount-ro 0   1
# swap was on /dev/sdb1 during installation
UUID=5c3c731c-0183-4131-ac01-ffab7b5600d9 noneswapsw
  0   0
/dev/scd1   /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
/dev/scd0   /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
/dev/fd0/media/floppy0  autorw,user,noauto  0   0
-

chroot /target mount produces:
-
rootfs on / type rootfs (rw)
none on /proc type proc (rw,relatime)
none on /sys type sysfs (rw,relatime)
tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,relatime,mode=755)
none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=000)
/dev/md0 on /target type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered)
tmpfs on /target/dev type tmpfs (rw,relatime,mode=755)
none on /target/proc type proc (rw,relatime)
/dev/sr1 on /cdrom type iso9660 (ro,relatime)
/dev/sdg1 on /media type vfat 
(rw,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=cp437,iocharset=utf8,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro)
-

When trying to install lilo (with the debian-installler), I get
inconsistent raid information (but the RAID1 (2x 208G) was created
with debian-installer):
-
Jun  5 19:21:57 in-target: Vormals 

Re: Problems installing grub/lilo with RAID1 on /

[Tom H]

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Felix Natter
felix.nat...@smail.inf.fh-brs.de wrote:


 I am trying to install squeeze (from live DVD[1]) with a RAID1 root
 filesystem (/dev/md0).

 There is an error when running grub-install:
 Jun 5 18:38:18 grub-installer: error: Running 'grub-install --no-floppy 
 --force /dev/sda' failed.

 I tried to run it manually:
 chroot /target grub-install --no-floppy --force /dev/sda
 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: no such disk.
 Auto-detection of a filesystem of /dev/md0 failed.
 Please report this together with the output of /usr/sbin/grub-probe 
 --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map --target=fs -v /boot/grub to 
 bug-g...@gnu.org

Does /target/etc/mtab exist and is it correct?


 chroot /target /usr/sbin/grub-probe --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map 
 --target=fs -v /boot/grub
 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd0 is 488397168.
 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd1 is 488397168.
 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: changing current directory to /dev.
 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: changing current directory to mapper.
 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: info: opening md0.
 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: no such disk.

On both Debian and Ubuntu, I used to be able to run dpkg-reconfigure
grub-pc, choose md0, sda, and sdb, and grub would be installed on all
three. For a while now (I can't remember for how long), installing to
md0's failed.


 When trying to install lilo (with the debian-installler), I get
 inconsistent raid information (but the RAID1 (2x 208G) was created
 with debian-installer):

 Jun 5 19:22:00 in-target: Running lilo...
 Jun 5 19:22:01 in-target: Fatal:
 Jun 5 19:22:01 in-target: Inconsistent Raid version information on /dev/md0  
 (RV=0.90 GAI=1.2)

What do RV and GAI mean? I've googled both and not foudn anything to
help. 0.90 and 1.2 are mdraid metadata versions. Were these disks
previously in another array and do you now have two types of metada on
them?


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Re: Problems installing squeeze netinstall

[William Hopkins]

On 05/29/11 at 02:31pm, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
 At 12:21 PM 5/29/2011, William Hopkins wrote:
 Do you get any other text on the screen when it hangs during boot?
 What was the ps -ef output from the troubleshooting terminal of the 
 installer?
 
 +++
 From active terminal:
 Waarning: Untrusted versions of the following software will be installed!
 Untrusted packages could compromise your system's security
 You should only proceed with the installation if you are certain
 that this is what you want to do
 
 in-target: dhcp3-client  dhcp3-common linux-image-2.6.26.-1-686
 in-target: Clinux-image-2.6.26.-2-686 tzdata
 in-target: do you want to ignorre this warning and proceed anyway?
 To contiue enter Yes; to abour enter No:
 Yes [no response to this reply]

Interesting, something has gone wrong with your security keys. Possible reasons:

outdated CD (keys no longer valid)
corrupt CD (keys unreadable)
time issues
bad mirror
man-in-the-middle attack/repo poisoning (extremely unlikely)

You can try another CD (possibly downloadedburned from a different machine 
than you used last time). Or you can use the 'advanced' option of the 
installer, and simply skip the software installation part. This *should* give 
you a working install without anything but the base OS. Then you can update 
your sources.list and install manually.

 
 output from ps -ef:
 31637 root 1672s udpkg --configure --force-configure pkgsel
 31638 root 1808 S /bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/pkgsel.postinst configure
 31659 root 1808 S /bin/sh /bin/in-target sh -c debconf-apt-progress --f
 31686 root 1668 S log-output -t in-target chroot /target sh -c debconf-
 31687 root 10212 S /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/share/defconf/frontend /usr/bin
 31689 root 6416 S /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/bin/debconf-apt-progress --from
 31690 root 50824 S aptitude -o APT::Status-Fd=4 -o APT::Keep-Fds::=5 -o
 31694 root 1812 R ps -ef

Looks normal. Clearly the issue is related to the key error you receive above.

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Re: Problems installing squeeze netinstall

[Ethan Rosenberg]

At 09:25 AM 5/28/2011, Rob Owens wrote:

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:45:09AM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
 Dear list -

 It went nowhere w/ the full iso of squeeze [see my previous post
 Difficulties installing squeeze], so I moved on the netinst.  The
 CD runs perfectly until it gets to Select and Install Software, at
 which point it hangs.  As far as I can tell, the CD is fine.  It was
 burned at a low speed, the MD5 sum of the file and the download
 matched and the CD was verified after burning.  I have tried
 changing the mirrors, to no avail.

I think your previous message said something about a missing Packages.gz
file.  You might want to look at this page:
http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110329ahttp://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110329a

Make sure you are using a 6.0.1a CD, not 6.0.1

-Rob


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Thanks to all

Can you ctl-alt-f1 or ctl-alt-f2 to see the output or open a terminal 
for troubleshooting?  Yes, but it is just scrolling and I cannot read it.


Make sure you are using a 6.0.1a CD, not 6.0.1  I am using that version.

Advice and comments please.

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Re: Problems installing squeeze netinstall

[Ethan Rosenberg]

At 11:33 AM 5/29/2011, William Hopkins wrote:

On 05/29/11 at 11:00am, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
 At 09:25 AM 5/28/2011, Rob Owens wrote:
 On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:45:09AM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
  Dear list -
 
  It went nowhere w/ the full iso of squeeze [see my previous post
  Difficulties installing squeeze], so I moved on the netinst.  The
  CD runs perfectly until it gets to Select and Install Software, at
  which point it hangs.  As far as I can tell, the CD is fine.  It was
  burned at a low speed, the MD5 sum of the file and the download
  matched and the CD was verified after burning.  I have tried
  changing the mirrors, to no avail.

 Can you ctl-alt-f1 or ctl-alt-f2 to see the output or open a
 terminal for troubleshooting?  Yes, but it is just scrolling and
 I cannot read it.

F1 should bring you to the output of the installer. A shame you 
cannot read it to see what is happening.
Try heading over to f2 where you can open a terminal for 
troubleshooting. Test your network from there. Try to ps and see 
what is going on.



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Liam -

If it helps, I can get to a terminal with the rescue mode.  I did 
that and updated [apt-get update  apt-get autoclean  apt-get 
dist-upgrade  apt-get autoremove].  When I boot, the system freezes 
at [   8.824009] [c010253c] cpu_idle+0x19/0xcb


Help and advice, please.

Ethan  




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Re: Problems installing squeeze netinstall

[William Hopkins]

On 05/29/11 at 11:50am, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
 At 11:33 AM 5/29/2011, William Hopkins wrote:
 On 05/29/11 at 11:00am, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
  At 09:25 AM 5/28/2011, Rob Owens wrote:
  On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:45:09AM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
   Dear list -
  
   It went nowhere w/ the full iso of squeeze [see my previous post
   Difficulties installing squeeze], so I moved on the netinst.  The
   CD runs perfectly until it gets to Select and Install Software, at
   which point it hangs.  As far as I can tell, the CD is fine.  It was
   burned at a low speed, the MD5 sum of the file and the download
   matched and the CD was verified after burning.  I have tried
   changing the mirrors, to no avail.
 
  Can you ctl-alt-f1 or ctl-alt-f2 to see the output or open a
  terminal for troubleshooting?  Yes, but it is just scrolling and
  I cannot read it.
 
 F1 should bring you to the output of the installer. A shame you
 cannot read it to see what is happening.
 Try heading over to f2 where you can open a terminal for
 troubleshooting. Test your network from there. Try to ps and see
 what is going on.

 If it helps, I can get to a terminal with the rescue mode.  I did
 that and updated [apt-get update  apt-get autoclean  apt-get
 dist-upgrade  apt-get autoremove].  When I boot, the system
 freezes at [   8.824009] [c010253c] cpu_idle+0x19/0xcb

I don't think this kernel output is helpful, but perhaps I'm wrong and some 
lister will reply.
If your CD hangs at 'select and install software' (which it should never do, as 
this step doesn't involve anything more than loading a list of files), then 
you've already completed installing the base system, right? 
Do you get any other text on the screen when it hangs during boot? 
What was the ps -ef output from the troubleshooting terminal of the installer?


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Re: Problems installing squeeze netinstall

[Whit Hansell]

On 05/29/2011 12:21 PM, William Hopkins wrote:

On 05/29/11 at 11:50am, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:

At 11:33 AM 5/29/2011, William Hopkins wrote:

On 05/29/11 at 11:00am, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:

At 09:25 AM 5/28/2011, Rob Owens wrote:

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:45:09AM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:

Dear list -

It went nowhere w/ the full iso of squeeze [see my previous post
Difficulties installing squeeze], so I moved on the netinst.  The
CD runs perfectly until it gets to Select and Install Software, at
which point it hangs.  As far as I can tell, the CD is fine.  It was
burned at a low speed, the MD5 sum of the file and the download
matched and the CD was verified after burning.  I have tried
changing the mirrors, to no avail.

Can you ctl-alt-f1 or ctl-alt-f2 to see the output or open a
terminal for troubleshooting?  Yes, but it is just scrolling and
I cannot read it.

F1 should bring you to the output of the installer. A shame you
cannot read it to see what is happening.
Try heading over to f2 where you can open a terminal for
troubleshooting. Test your network from there. Try to ps and see
what is going on.

If it helps, I can get to a terminal with the rescue mode.  I did
that and updated [apt-get update  apt-get autoclean  apt-get
dist-upgrade  apt-get autoremove].  When I boot, the system
freezes at [   8.824009] [c010253c] cpu_idle+0x19/0xcb

I don't think this kernel output is helpful, but perhaps I'm wrong and some 
lister will reply.
If your CD hangs at 'select and install software' (which it should never do, as 
this step doesn't involve anything more than loading a list of files), then 
you've already completed installing the base system, right?
Do you get any other text on the screen when it hangs during boot?
What was the ps -ef output from the troubleshooting terminal of the installer?

I had this problem back in  March installing Wheezy w. the netinst. 
iso.  Re-burned it a couple of times and finally said (expletive 
deleted), downloaded the business card iso and all went well from 
there.  I have had nothing but problems trying to install downloaded 
iso's when they are of any size as it seems my CD/DVD drive[s] seem to 
not like reading compressed .iso info for some reason.  I have even had 
to do the burn at only 2X speed to get them to write correctly.  HTH's.


Cheers,
Whit


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Re: Problems installing squeeze netinstall

[Ethan Rosenberg]

At 12:21 PM 5/29/2011, William Hopkins wrote:

On 05/29/11 at 11:50am, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
 At 11:33 AM 5/29/2011, William Hopkins wrote:
 On 05/29/11 at 11:00am, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
  At 09:25 AM 5/28/2011, Rob Owens wrote:
  On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:45:09AM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
   Dear list -
  
   It went nowhere w/ the full iso of squeeze [see my previous post
   Difficulties installing squeeze], so I moved on the netinst.  The
   CD runs perfectly until it gets to Select and Install Software, at
   which point it hangs.  As far as I can tell, the CD is fine.  It was
   burned at a low speed, the MD5 sum of the file and the download
   matched and the CD was verified after burning.  I have tried
   changing the mirrors, to no avail.
 
  Can you ctl-alt-f1 or ctl-alt-f2 to see the output or open a
  terminal for troubleshooting?  Yes, but it is just scrolling and
  I cannot read it.
 
 F1 should bring you to the output of the installer. A shame you
 cannot read it to see what is happening.
 Try heading over to f2 where you can open a terminal for
 troubleshooting. Test your network from there. Try to ps and see
 what is going on.

 If it helps, I can get to a terminal with the rescue mode.  I did
 that and updated [apt-get update  apt-get autoclean  apt-get
 dist-upgrade  apt-get autoremove].  When I boot, the system
 freezes at [   8.824009] [c010253c] cpu_idle+0x19/0xcb

I don't think this kernel output is helpful, but perhaps I'm wrong 
and some lister will reply.
If your CD hangs at 'select and install software' (which it should 
never do, as this step doesn't involve anything more than loading a 
list of files), then you've already completed installing the base 
system, right?

Do you get any other text on the screen when it hangs during boot?
What was the ps -ef output from the troubleshooting terminal of the installer?


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+++
From active terminal:
Waarning: Untrusted versions of the following software will be installed!
Untrusted packages could compromise your system's security
You should only proceed with the installation if you are certain that 
this is what you want to do


in-target: dhcp3-client  dhcp3-common linux-image-2.6.26.-1-686
in-target: Clinux-image-2.6.26.-2-686 tzdata
in-target: do you want to ignorre this warning and proceed anyway?
To contiue enter Yes; to abour enter No:
Yes [no response to this reply]

output from ps -ef:
31637 root 1672s udpkg --configure --force-configure pkgsel
31638 root 1808 S /bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/pkgsel.postinst configure
31659 root 1808 S /bin/sh /bin/in-target sh -c debconf-apt-progress --f
31686 root 1668 S log-output -t in-target chroot /target sh -c debconf-
31687 root 10212 S /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/share/defconf/frontend /usr/bin
31689 root 6416 S /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/bin/debconf-apt-progress --from
31690 root 50824 S aptitude -o APT::Status-Fd=4 -o APT::Keep-Fds::=5 -o
31694 root 1812 R ps -ef

{the above text would not have been possible if not for my wife 
reading it from the monitor!}


Ethan 




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Re: Problems installing squeeze netinstall

[Joey Hess]

Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
 From active terminal:
 Waarning: Untrusted versions of the following software will be installed!
 Untrusted packages could compromise your system's security
 You should only proceed with the installation if you are certain
 that this is what you want to do
 
 in-target: dhcp3-client  dhcp3-common linux-image-2.6.26.-1-686
 in-target: Clinux-image-2.6.26.-2-686 tzdata
 in-target: do you want to ignorre this warning and proceed anyway?

Check if your computer's clock is set accurately. The installer attempts
to get the time via the network, but that could fail and can result
in this kind of problem.

Check that you're using a valid, up-to-date Debian mirror. 

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Re: Problems installing squeeze netinstall

[Rob Owens]

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:45:09AM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
 Dear list -
 
 It went nowhere w/ the full iso of squeeze [see my previous post
 Difficulties installing squeeze], so I moved on the netinst.  The
 CD runs perfectly until it gets to Select and Install Software, at
 which point it hangs.  As far as I can tell, the CD is fine.  It was
 burned at a low speed, the MD5 sum of the file and the download
 matched and the CD was verified after burning.  I have tried
 changing the mirrors, to no avail.
 
I think your previous message said something about a missing Packages.gz
file.  You might want to look at this page: 
http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110329ahttp://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110329a

Make sure you are using a 6.0.1a CD, not 6.0.1

-Rob


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Problems installing squeeze netinstall

[Ethan Rosenberg]

Dear list -

It went nowhere w/ the full iso of squeeze [see my previous post 
Difficulties installing squeeze], so I moved on the netinst.  The 
CD runs perfectly until it gets to Select and Install Software, at 
which point it hangs.  As far as I can tell, the CD is fine.  It was 
burned at a low speed, the MD5 sum of the file and the download 
matched and the CD was verified after burning.  I have tried changing 
the mirrors, to no avail.


Comments and advice, please.

Thanks.

Ethan



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Re: Problems installing squeeze netinstall

[William Hopkins]

On 05/27/11 at 11:45am, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
 Dear list -
 
 It went nowhere w/ the full iso of squeeze [see my previous post
 Difficulties installing squeeze], so I moved on the netinst.  The
 CD runs perfectly until it gets to Select and Install Software, at
 which point it hangs.  As far as I can tell, the CD is fine.  It was
 burned at a low speed, the MD5 sum of the file and the download
 matched and the CD was verified after burning.  I have tried
 changing the mirrors, to no avail.
 
 Comments and advice, please.
Define 'hangs'. A system hang? Can you ctl-alt-f1 or ctl-alt-f2 to see the 
output or open a terminal for troubleshooting?

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Re: Problems installing VLC

[AG]

On 27/02/11 11:58, Brian wrote:

AGcomputing.acco...@googlemail.com  wrote:

   

I am having troubles installing VLC on testing/ wheezy.
 

You have now solved your problem but if you have Debian-Multimedia in
your sources.list it may have been the cause of your problem. My testing
upgrade today wanted to remove vlc and vlc-nox. Commenting out the D-M
archive and removing ffmpeg (which was from there) prevented that.

Some library incompatibility, I expect. I recollect on Lenny it was not
possible to have the Debian vlc and D-M ffmpeg together so it's not
unknown for the two archives not to mix.


   


Brian

That was very helpful - thanks for that.  I do have D-M in my sources 
list, so this may have been the cause of the difficulties I experienced.


I'll bear that in mind for another install I am planning.

Cheers
AG


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testing/unstable(sid) in sources.lst ok? (was Re: Problems installing VLC [SOLVED])

[Chris Bannister]

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:10:31AM +, teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net wrote:
 AG said:
 
 Actually it was deceptively simple: added a line for unstable in my
 sources.list, updated, and then installed vlc.  Hopefully this will not
 come back to bite me, but all went very easily.
 
 
teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net wrote:
 
 Just be sure to comment the unstable repos from your sources list after the 
 fact

AFAIR, if you are running testing it is recommended to have testing AND
unstable repositories listed in your sources.lst. 

[..]

 To flush the repository system, do it now so you don't forget and do an 
 upgrade by accident...

To where would you be upgrading?

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