Re: Weird ICQ problems

1999-09-15 Thread Eric Zeller

I was having some wierd crashing problems too, mostly on kernel compiles
(got to the point where I had to compile kernels for my firewall on
another machine). I was averaging 2 day uptimes (still better
than most W95 machines) Suspecting a hardware problem, I swapped my sound
card, video card, IDE driver, serial port driver (It was also crashing
whenever I tried to access the serial ports), until I finally swapped a
486 motherboard for my pentium motherboard and my memory failed the boot
check. I now have two 16 meg simms sitting on my desk and check out my
uptimes

$ ud -d
- Uptime for myrouter.home.ericzeller.com -
Now  : 26 day(s), 01:07:08 running Linux 2.0.36
One  : 26 day(s), 01:05:14 running Linux 2.0.36, ended Tue Sep 14 22:48:35
1999
Two  : 16 day(s), 11:05:48 running Linux 2.0.36, ended Wed Jul 28 23:52:06
1999
Three: 16 day(s), 02:13:28 running Linux 2.0.36, ended Sat Aug 14 09:34:03
1999

the last time I rebooted was because my sound module had got stuck
wouldn't unload, and the time before that was when I realized I had
installed the parallel cable backwards on the motherboard (note: the red
stripe does not always point to pin 1)

Eric Zeller A Happy Oacis Employee  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.ericzeller.com   
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On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Phil Brutsche wrote:

 On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Robert Rati wrote:
 
  I'm having problems getting any icq client to stay up.  I was running LIcq
  just fine, but recently, it crashes very shortly after I get online.
  GTK-ICQ is the same way.  I've had my machine be unstable for some reason
  or another and would crash long compiles (qt, kernel, etc) and more than
  ^  ^^
  once fsck on bootup wouldn't be able to fix it and I'd have to fsck the
  drive manually.  After these crashes is when the ICQ clones started
  crashing after it logs on.  What I'm wondering is if one of the fscks
  could've deleted or damaged something the ICQ clones use?  If so, does
  anyone have any idea what?  I am considering re-formatting and
  re-installing Debian, but I don't really want to seeing as how I've spent
  so much time configuring this already.  Does anyone have any ideas of
  things to try?
 What specifically does the kernel (or qt, etc) compile 'crash' with?
 
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RE: Weird ICQ problems

1999-09-14 Thread Robert Rati
On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Pollywog wrote:

 
 On 13-Sep-99 Robert Rati wrote:
  
  How did you get the plugins to build?  I got LIcq .70 (the stable
  version)
  to build, but couldn't get ANY plugins to build to it was basically
  worthless.  What did you do to get the plugins to build?  I am hoping
  that
  a new version will fix the problem, but currently, and version I try
  (including .61 which is what started the problem) will act the same.  I
  am
  hoping .70 will fix it, but don't have too much hope.  I've re-complied
  and re-installed .61 about 3 or 4 times and the problem hasn't gone away.
 
 I see now that I misunderstood one thing.  My machine was not crashing,
 just Licq was crashing.
 
 I am a KDE user, so I had to leave QT 1.44 in place in /usr/local/qt.
 I have installed Qt 2.01 in /usr/local/qt-2.01
 
 First, I do:
 
 export QTDIR=/usr/local/qt-2.01
 
 I untar the Licq tarball and cd into Licq-0.70 and then
 
 ./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/local/qt-2.01 \
 --with-qt-libraries=/usr/local/qt-2.01 [enter]
 
 when that is done:
 
 make
 
 make install
 
 When that is all done, I cd to the plugins directory and perform the same
 steps I performed above (as root) and then I start with a new ~/.licq
 directory just in case the old one is not compatible.
 
 Also, when you are done, re-export your regular QT directory if you cannot
 use QT 2.00 routinely.  If you are using KDE 1.1.1, that's you.
 
 --
 Andrew

I was able to complie .70 and it miraculously fixed the problem.  Thank
you so much.  Those options to configure were what I needed apparantly.
Works like a champ now!

Rob

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RE: Weird ICQ problems

1999-09-13 Thread Pollywog

On 13-Sep-99 Robert Rati wrote:
 I'm having problems getting any icq client to stay up.  I was running
 LIcq
 just fine, but recently, it crashes very shortly after I get online.
 GTK-ICQ is the same way.  I've had my machine be unstable for some reason
 or another and would crash long compiles (qt, kernel, etc) and more than
 once fsck on bootup wouldn't be able to fix it and I'd have to fsck the
 drive manually.  After these crashes is when the ICQ clones started
 crashing after it logs on.  What I'm wondering is if one of the fscks
 could've deleted or damaged something the ICQ clones use?  If so, does
 anyone have any idea what?  I am considering re-formatting and
 re-installing Debian, but I don't really want to seeing as how I've spent
 so much time configuring this already.  Does anyone have any ideas of
 things to try?

I started having a problem like the one you describe with Licq .70h so I
went back to the stable version a few days ago and the problem stopped.
I have no idea what happened, but I just downloaded (yesterday) the NEW
stable Licq release (version .70 final) and it works great.  You will have
to install QT 2.0 to install the plugin for this version, though.

I just re-export QT 1.44 after I am done compiling the plugin.

--
Andrew


Re: Weird ICQ problems

1999-09-13 Thread Phil Brutsche
On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Robert Rati wrote:

 I'm having problems getting any icq client to stay up.  I was running LIcq
 just fine, but recently, it crashes very shortly after I get online.
 GTK-ICQ is the same way.  I've had my machine be unstable for some reason
 or another and would crash long compiles (qt, kernel, etc) and more than
 ^  ^^
 once fsck on bootup wouldn't be able to fix it and I'd have to fsck the
 drive manually.  After these crashes is when the ICQ clones started
 crashing after it logs on.  What I'm wondering is if one of the fscks
 could've deleted or damaged something the ICQ clones use?  If so, does
 anyone have any idea what?  I am considering re-formatting and
 re-installing Debian, but I don't really want to seeing as how I've spent
 so much time configuring this already.  Does anyone have any ideas of
 things to try?
What specifically does the kernel (or qt, etc) compile 'crash' with?

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RE: Weird ICQ problems

1999-09-13 Thread Robert Rati
On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Pollywog wrote:

 
 On 13-Sep-99 Robert Rati wrote:
  I'm having problems getting any icq client to stay up.  I was running
  LIcq
  just fine, but recently, it crashes very shortly after I get online.
  GTK-ICQ is the same way.  I've had my machine be unstable for some reason
  or another and would crash long compiles (qt, kernel, etc) and more than
  once fsck on bootup wouldn't be able to fix it and I'd have to fsck the
  drive manually.  After these crashes is when the ICQ clones started
  crashing after it logs on.  What I'm wondering is if one of the fscks
  could've deleted or damaged something the ICQ clones use?  If so, does
  anyone have any idea what?  I am considering re-formatting and
  re-installing Debian, but I don't really want to seeing as how I've spent
  so much time configuring this already.  Does anyone have any ideas of
  things to try?
 
 I started having a problem like the one you describe with Licq .70h so I
 went back to the stable version a few days ago and the problem stopped.
 I have no idea what happened, but I just downloaded (yesterday) the NEW
 stable Licq release (version .70 final) and it works great.  You will have
 to install QT 2.0 to install the plugin for this version, though.
 
 I just re-export QT 1.44 after I am done compiling the plugin.

How did you get the plugins to build?  I got LIcq .70 (the stable version)
to build, but couldn't get ANY plugins to build to it was basically
worthless.  What did you do to get the plugins to build?  I am hoping that
a new version will fix the problem, but currently, and version I try
(including .61 which is what started the problem) will act the same.  I am
hoping .70 will fix it, but don't have too much hope.  I've re-complied
and re-installed .61 about 3 or 4 times and the problem hasn't gone away.

Rob

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Re: Weird ICQ problems

1999-09-13 Thread Robert Rati
On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Phil Brutsche wrote:

 On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Robert Rati wrote:
 
  I'm having problems getting any icq client to stay up.  I was running LIcq
  just fine, but recently, it crashes very shortly after I get online.
  GTK-ICQ is the same way.  I've had my machine be unstable for some reason
  or another and would crash long compiles (qt, kernel, etc) and more than
  ^  ^^
  once fsck on bootup wouldn't be able to fix it and I'd have to fsck the
  drive manually.  After these crashes is when the ICQ clones started
  crashing after it logs on.  What I'm wondering is if one of the fscks
  could've deleted or damaged something the ICQ clones use?  If so, does
  anyone have any idea what?  I am considering re-formatting and
  re-installing Debian, but I don't really want to seeing as how I've spent
  so much time configuring this already.  Does anyone have any ideas of
  things to try?
 What specifically does the kernel (or qt, etc) compile 'crash' with?

By crash I mean my machine would hang and I'd have to hit the reset
button.  This caused linux to fsck the drives and of course there'd be a
lot of problems.  A couple of times fsck couldn't fix it automatically and
I had to run fsck manually.

Rob

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Aka Khyron the Backstabber  |   LI  NN N  U U  X X  O
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RE: Weird ICQ problems

1999-09-13 Thread Pollywog

On 13-Sep-99 Robert Rati wrote:
 
 How did you get the plugins to build?  I got LIcq .70 (the stable
 version)
 to build, but couldn't get ANY plugins to build to it was basically
 worthless.  What did you do to get the plugins to build?  I am hoping
 that
 a new version will fix the problem, but currently, and version I try
 (including .61 which is what started the problem) will act the same.  I
 am
 hoping .70 will fix it, but don't have too much hope.  I've re-complied
 and re-installed .61 about 3 or 4 times and the problem hasn't gone away.

I see now that I misunderstood one thing.  My machine was not crashing,
just Licq was crashing.

I am a KDE user, so I had to leave QT 1.44 in place in /usr/local/qt.
I have installed Qt 2.01 in /usr/local/qt-2.01

First, I do:

export QTDIR=/usr/local/qt-2.01

I untar the Licq tarball and cd into Licq-0.70 and then

./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/local/qt-2.01 \
--with-qt-libraries=/usr/local/qt-2.01 [enter]

when that is done:

make

make install

When that is all done, I cd to the plugins directory and perform the same
steps I performed above (as root) and then I start with a new ~/.licq
directory just in case the old one is not compatible.

Also, when you are done, re-export your regular QT directory if you cannot
use QT 2.00 routinely.  If you are using KDE 1.1.1, that's you.

--
Andrew


Re: Weird ICQ problems

1999-09-13 Thread Seth R Arnold
I filed a bug report against licq for this, and the maintainer told me he
had uploaded .7 to incoming, and now we just wait for Muoa (right?) the ftp
maintainer to move it around a bit, then apt-get upgrade should install it
for us -- possibly with the bugfix included. Keep an eye out for it. :)

On Mon, Sep 13, 1999 at 11:52:12AM -0500, Robert Rati wrote:
 I'm having problems getting any icq client to stay up.  I was running LIcq
 just fine, but recently, it crashes very shortly after I get online.
 GTK-ICQ is the same way.  I've had my machine be unstable for some reason
 or another and would crash long compiles (qt, kernel, etc) and more than
 once fsck on bootup wouldn't be able to fix it and I'd have to fsck the
 drive manually.  After these crashes is when the ICQ clones started
 crashing after it logs on.  What I'm wondering is if one of the fscks
 could've deleted or damaged something the ICQ clones use?  If so, does
 anyone have any idea what?  I am considering re-formatting and
 re-installing Debian, but I don't really want to seeing as how I've spent
 so much time configuring this already.  Does anyone have any ideas of
 things to try?
 
   Rob
 
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