Re: X-windows copy/paste mess [SOLVED]

2011-03-22 Thread Steve Kleene
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 17:13:01 + (UTC), I wrote: I'm running testing (Wheezy) and am failing to get copy/paste working cleanly among my most common windows, namely: several xterms virtualbox running a virtual XP client iceweasel ... Is there any way to get all of these programs to

RE: X Windows

2007-02-15 Thread Ercan Pamuk
Run Level ý deðiþtirmeniz gerekmektedir. Run Level komutu ile çalýmýþ olduðunuz level ý görebilirsiniz, init komutu ile de bu çalýþma seviyenizi deðiþtirme þansýnýz var. Örneðin init2 gibi. From: Eren Mustafa KESDi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user-turkish@lists.debian.org Subject: X

Re: X Windows

2007-02-15 Thread Afsin Taskiran
Selamlar; /etc/inittab dosyanizi # The default runlevel is defined here id:3:initdefault: gibi degistirebilirsiniz. Sizin bu satirda id:5 ... olan degeri 3 yapmaniz gerekiyor. iyi calismalar Afsin. eren kesdi writes: X Windows un açılışta otomatik gelmemesi için ne

Re: X Windows

2007-02-15 Thread Onur Aslan
eren kesdi wrote: X Windows un açılışta otomatik gelmemesi için ne yapabiliriz. Sadece startX ya da X ile manuel çalıştırınca çalışsa. Nasıl açılışta çalışmasını engelleyebiliriz ? /etc/init.d/gdm ( ya da kullandiginiz yoneticiyinin ) scriptini silebilir veya chmod 000 yaparak,

Re: X Windows

2007-02-15 Thread Selim T. Erdogan
Onur Aslan, 15.02.2007 tarihinde şöyle yazmış: eren kesdi wrote: X Windows un açılışta otomatik gelmemesi için ne yapabiliriz. Sadece startX ya da X ile manuel çalıştırınca çalışsa. Nasıl açılışta çalışmasını engelleyebiliriz ? /etc/init.d/gdm ( ya da kullandiginiz yoneticiyinin )

Re: X Windows

2006-10-07 Thread Marcos Lazarini
Em 06/10/06, Leonardo Larsen Rocha[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Pessoal, Quando o XWindows entra ele sempre exibe uma tela padrăo meio cinza, e com o ícone do mouse no formato de X, existe uma maneira de quando entrar nessa tela ao invés de cinza deixar tudo AZUL ??? Não que eu

Re: X Windows not installed

2006-06-26 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 00:29:01 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Michael M. wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: Make sure you have the packages discover1 (for 2.6 kernels) or discover (for 2.4 kernels) installed, as well as xresprobe, Oh, so *that's* the difference between 'discover' and 'discover1'!

Re: X Windows not installed

2006-06-25 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le dimanche 25 juin 2006 à 09:28 +0800, Dr Bean a écrit : On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, Thibaut Paumard wrote: Le jeudi 22 juin 2006 ? 20:03 +0800, Dr Bean a ?crit : I don't think I have X Windows installed. How do I now install it? [...] I have now a perfectly good console-based linux

Re: X Windows not installed

2006-06-25 Thread Dr Bean
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006, Thibaut Paumard wrote: Le dimanche 25 juin 2006 ? 09:28 +0800, Dr Bean a ?crit : Also give some details about your system (video hardware). Where would I get that. dmesg says just: Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 The sources of information for that would be: .. -

Re: X Windows not installed

2006-06-25 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 16:58:14 +0800, Dr Bean wrote: On Sun, 25 Jun 2006, Thibaut Paumard wrote: Le dimanche 25 juin 2006 ? 09:28 +0800, Dr Bean a ?crit : Also give some details about your system (video hardware). Where would I get that. dmesg says just: Console: colour VGA+

Re: X Windows not installed

2006-06-25 Thread Michael M.
Florian Kulzer wrote: Make sure you have the packages discover1 (for 2.6 kernels) or discover (for 2.4 kernels) installed, as well as xresprobe, mdetect, read-edid and, if applicable, laptop-detect. Then run (as root) dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and you should get a proper configuration.

Re: X Windows not installed

2006-06-25 Thread Joey Hess
Michael M. wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: Make sure you have the packages discover1 (for 2.6 kernels) or discover (for 2.4 kernels) installed, as well as xresprobe, Oh, so *that's* the difference between 'discover' and 'discover1'! I No, neither discover1 nor discover 2 are kernel specific.

Re: X Windows not installed

2006-06-24 Thread Dr Bean
On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, Thibaut Paumard wrote: Le jeudi 22 juin 2006 ? 20:03 +0800, Dr Bean a ?crit : I don't think I have X Windows installed. How do I now install it? [...] I have now a perfectly good console-based linux system, but exec startx doesn't give me X Windows. This is a late

Re: X Windows not installed

2006-06-22 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le jeudi 22 juin 2006 à 20:03 +0800, Dr Bean a écrit : I don't think I have X Windows installed. How do I now install it? [...] I have now a perfectly good console-based linux system, but exec startx doesn't give me X Windows. But you do have startx? Do you get a command not found error, or a

Re: X Windows not installed

2006-06-22 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 20:03:33 +0800, Dr Bean wrote: I don't think I have X Windows installed. How do I now install it? Installing sid with installer-i386, I was given a choice about what kind of setup I wanted, eg a personal workstation, an Internet server, etc. With the cursor on the

Re: X-Windows Problems - Solved

2006-05-28 Thread Thomas H. George
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 01:20:17AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 10:20:08 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 12:34:45PM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: [...] That all sounds like there are some configuration problems in your system. Maybe you

Re: X-Windows Problems - Progress

2006-05-26 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Thomas H. George wrote: On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 02:04:57PM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 11:30:37AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 16:41:09 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: I am stumbling through the move from Sarge to testing. I have managed to

Re: X-Windows Problems - Puzzled

2006-05-26 Thread Thomas H. George
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 12:34:45PM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 03:09:39PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 14:04:57 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 11:30:37AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, May 22, 2006 at

Re: X-Windows Problems, xorgcfg error

2006-05-26 Thread Thomas H. George
The thread is tangled because some of my previous posting have not shown up as yet. Continuing to try to get the Wacom mouse to work, ran xorgcfg. The program runs but with output to stderror Failed to initialize module list. strace xorgcfg shows it is looking in

Re: X-Windows Problems - Puzzled

2006-05-26 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 10:20:08 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 12:34:45PM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: [...] I now have all the lines in sources.list commented out except those for testing. I ran apt-get install -f followed by apt-get update then apt-get

Re: X-Windows Problems - Wacom

2006-05-26 Thread Thomas H. George
Tangled thread; one of yesterday's postings just showed up. A later posting reported editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf as per linuxwacom.sf.net manual. I now have the following situation: The stylus moves the cursor, the mouse does not. The mouse buttons and scroll wheel work. Tom George -- To

Re: X-Windows Problems - Progress

2006-05-25 Thread Thomas H. George
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 02:04:57PM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 11:30:37AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 16:41:09 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: I am stumbling through the move from Sarge to testing. I have managed to get gdm to start but

Re: X-Windows Problems

2006-05-25 Thread Thomas H. George
On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 03:09:39PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 14:04:57 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 11:30:37AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 16:41:09 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: I am stumbling through the move

Re: X-Windows Problems

2006-05-24 Thread Thomas H. George
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 11:30:37AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 16:41:09 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: I am stumbling through the move from Sarge to testing. I have managed to get gdm to start but if I switch to a console I lose the window and must restart gdm.

Re: X-Windows Problems

2006-05-24 Thread Thomas H. George
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 03:30:43AM +, s. keeling wrote: Thomas H. George [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am stumbling through the move from Sarge to testing. I have managed There are reasons why Sarge is called stable. Stay with Sarge/stable. Testing is meant for those who *know* Debian well

Re: X-Windows Problems

2006-05-24 Thread s. keeling
Thomas H. George [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 03:30:43AM +, s. keeling wrote: Thomas H. George [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am stumbling through the move from Sarge to testing. I have managed There are reasons why Sarge is called stable. Stay with Sarge/stable. Testing

Re: X-Windows Problems

2006-05-24 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 14:04:57 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 11:30:37AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 16:41:09 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: I am stumbling through the move from Sarge to testing. I have managed to get gdm to start but

Re: X-Windows Problems

2006-05-23 Thread s. keeling
Thomas H. George [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am stumbling through the move from Sarge to testing. I have managed There are reasons why Sarge is called stable. Stay with Sarge/stable. Testing is meant for those who *know* Debian well enough to not stumble, not for those who want newer software.

Re: X-Windows Problems

2006-05-23 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
s. keeling wrote: Thomas H. George [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am stumbling through the move from Sarge to testing. I have managed There are reasons why Sarge is called stable. Stay with Sarge/stable. Testing is meant for those who *know* Debian well enough to not stumble, not for those

Re: X-Windows Problems

2006-05-23 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 16:41:09 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: I am stumbling through the move from Sarge to testing. I have managed to get gdm to start but if I switch to a console I lose the window and must restart gdm. Equally frustrating, my Wacom tablet mouse is not recognized

Re: X Windows Fonts with Symbols? - Thanks

2006-03-30 Thread Thomas H. George
On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 09:12:42PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 08:50:10PM -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: I would like to write some text which includes the symbols for Spades, Hearts, Diamonds and Clubs. I know that some years ago I had a word processor with fonts

Re: x-windows beenden und neu starten

2005-12-07 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 07.12.05 10:55:08, Daniel Kämtner wrote: Hallo ich wollte meine X-windows-manager mit # init 3 beenden und mit # init 5 wieder starten. Aber da passiert nichts.. Weil das normalerweise diesselben Runlevel sind. Wir sind hier nicht bei SuSE, in Debian sind die Runlevel 2-5 gleich. Du

[Fwd: Re: X Windows System (mais um coisa)]

2005-11-20 Thread Marcos Vinicius Lazarini
Encaminhando Original Message Subject: Re: X Windows System (mais um coisa) Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 08:55:54 -0400 From: Alexandre Aldrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Marcos Vinicius Lazarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: X Windows System (mais um coisa)

2005-11-19 Thread Marcos Vinicius Lazarini
Fabiano Pires wrote: Os pacotes básicos que eu uso são: x-window-system gnome (ou kde, ou outro gerenciador de janelas) gdm (ou kdm, ou outro gerenciador de logins) acho que é só. Eu costumo instalar o x-window-system-core + xterm. acho que vem muita tranqueira com x-window-system (xprint,

Re: X Windows System

2005-11-17 Thread Alysson Alves de Oliveira
Também estou tendo um problema com o X. Ele gerou a seguinte saída (abaixo), não consegui liberar para ele o GLcore e não entendi a última parte. Vou colocar aqui as partes que contém erros e o contexto dele: ... (II) LoadModule: GLcore (WW) Warning, couldn't open module GLcore (II)

Re: X Windows System (mais um coisa)

2005-11-16 Thread Fabiano Pires
Os pacotes básicos que eu uso são: x-window-system gnome (ou kde, ou outro gerenciador de janelas) gdm (ou kdm, ou outro gerenciador de logins) acho que é só. Fabiano. Em 15/11/05, Alexandre Aldrigues[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Eu tenho um sério problema com um X Windows System, eu acho que

Re: X Windows System (mais um coisa)

2005-11-16 Thread Márcio Inácio Silva
Em Ter 15 Nov 2005 13:16, Alexandre Aldrigues escreveu: Eu tenho um sério problema com um X Windows System, eu acho que ele não gosta de mim. Quando instalo qualquer distribuição de Linux as configurações do X são detectadas perfeitamente, tudo funciona, mas daí, caso eu venha fuçar, fuçar e

Re: X Windows System (mais um coisa)

2005-11-15 Thread Fabio Guerrazzi
quote quem=Alexandre Aldrigues Eu tenho um sério problema com um X Windows System, eu acho que ele não gosta de mim. Quando instalo qualquer distribuição de Linux as configurações do X são detectadas perfeitamente, tudo funciona, mas daí, caso eu venha fuçar, fuçar e por fim consigo o detonar,

Re: X Windows System (mais um coisa)

2005-11-15 Thread Alexandre Aldrigues
Tudo bem, concordo... Mas eu queria aprender. Por exemplo, chegar em qualquer m=E1quina e fazer funcionar, mesmo que fosse do zero. :/ Em 15/11/05, Fabio Guerrazzi[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: quote quem=Alexandre Aldrigues Eu tenho um sério problema com um X Windows System, eu acho que ele

Re: x-windows on compaq v2000

2005-09-22 Thread MJD
Could you post the contents of your XF86Config-4 please.On 9/22/05, Marko Sarunac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:trying to get xwin running on the v2000 Here is the latest log file from X.having problems with libGLcore. I have tried booting with 2.6.8 and 2.6.8-amd64 Same results. Your help is

Re: X windows libraries??

2005-09-05 Thread Pablo Bullian
Thanks a lot for your recomendation about qemu, i can compile it and it works grate and also i can run the bochs virtual disk with the OS inside. Pablo E. Bullian

Re: X windows libraries??

2005-09-04 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Sep 04, 2005 at 07:06:05PM -0300, Pablo Bullian wrote: Hi!, I'm new in this and i have a problem trying to compile some programs. I try the ./configure with bochs and it give me this error the same i think that the compilation of aMsn give me. First of all, there is already a bochs

Re: X-windows Problems with firefox install connections???

2005-08-09 Thread Will Ness
Hello!! My apt source list points to unstable currently. As much I don't want to admit it, I guess I will reinstall Windows 98 on it (the original OS). The current state of affairs is way too much trouble and time consuming for me as of right now. As much as I like Linux, I am still too much of a

Re: X-windows Problems with firefox install connections???

2005-07-30 Thread Bill Marcum
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 12:36:35PM -0400, Will Ness wrote: Hello! Here is the breakdown, yes I am using 2.2 idepci kernel on my laptop. However when I do the apt-get command, it claims that the newer kernel image is not been found. Have you done apt-get update? If you are using a 2.2

Re: x-windows-system package

2005-07-29 Thread hacker (of golf)
On 7/29/05, Paolo Pantaleo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just installed the x-windows-system package, and i found some unpleasant things: 1)xdm is installed and no question is done about it during configuration 2)the keyboard doesn't work properly as said in a previous message ALT GR + key

Re: x-windows-system package

2005-07-29 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Hi Paolo, Paolo Pantaleo wrote: I just installed the x-windows-system package, and i found some unpleasant things: 1)xdm is installed and no question is done about it during configuration This is by design. x-window-system depends upon all programs that are traditionally part of an X

Re: X-windows Problems with firefox install connections???

2005-07-28 Thread Will Ness
Hello! Here is the breakdown, yes I am using 2.2 idepci kernel on my laptop. However when I do the apt-get command, it claims that the newer kernel image is not been found. Not sure what to do next. Perhaps at this point, should I consider a reinstall? I know that x-windows worked the first time

Re: X-windows Problems with firefox install connections???

2005-07-23 Thread MJD
You are probably using 2.2, which I have no experience with. Try upgrading to 2.4 if possible, with the following command: apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-386 (You will need to reboot.) That will bring you up to 2.4, and then you may want to upgrade to sarge, the latest stable, and get 2.6.

Re: X-windows Problems with firefox install connections???

2005-07-22 Thread Will Ness
Hello! I am using the standard 'safe' kernal installation on the woody cds. No customization invovled. I believe the kernal is 2.2 or 2.4 but I will get back to you on that. What other modules should I try? -Will

Re: X-windows Problems with firefox install connections???

2005-07-21 Thread Will Ness
Hello! Cool, so now I know for sure its the mouse driver. How do I go about adding the psmouse or event modules? Do I go in and edit the x-config file to say psmouse/usbhid/mousedev in the device or Protocol section? Or not that at all? I am very much a newbie when it comes to

Re: X-windows Problems with firefox install connections???

2005-07-21 Thread MJD
First of all, this isn't a pain. This is what mailing lists are for. Second, to see if it works, in a console run: modprobe input modprobe psmouse modprobe usbhid modprobe mousedev. Then start x. If that works, then add input, psmouse, usbhid, and mousedev to /etc/modules. That will load them on

Re: X-windows Problems with firefox install connections???

2005-07-21 Thread Will Ness
Hello! Thank you again for the help! Please know that I truly appreciate it! Anyways,I tried what you suggested and all I got for each input was : Can't locate module (input) What happens now? -Will

Re: X-windows Problems with firefox install connections???

2005-07-21 Thread MJD
That's alright, try the other modules, and then ty starting x. Are using the stock kernel, or are you using custom kernel? And what kernel.On 7/21/05, Will Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hello!Thank you again for the help! Please know that I truly appreciate it! Anyways,I tried what you suggested

Re: X Windows

2005-05-23 Thread UnHoLy_cUrSe
Da alguma mensagem de erro? Se aparece alguma mensagem de erro copia e posta ela aqui para podermos ajudar falow []s Em 23/05/05, Poch[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Alguem me ajuda com o X windows. Ja instalei mas quando ele carregq o modo grafico aprece o console e nada mais aprarece na tela.

Re: X Windows

2005-05-23 Thread Fabio Guerrazzi
Você instalou o pacote x-window-system-core ? quote quem=Poch Alguem me ajuda com o X windows. Ja instalei mas quando ele carregq o modo grafico aprece o console e nada mais aprarece na tela. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: X Windows

2005-05-03 Thread Marcos Vinicius Lazarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pessoal, Tenho aqui minha maquina o debian sage (cd basico netinst). Já instalei o básico do sistema e agora gostaria de instalar também o wmaker, só que estou tendo problemas... Comando: apt-get install wmaker Obs.: Já estou com o pppoeconfig devidamente configurado

Re: X Windows

2004-11-02 Thread Luiz Carcerelli
Em Ter, 2004-11-02 às 13:15 -0200, free-linux escreveu: Olá Lista, Estou tentando configurar o X, mas quando dou dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 ele está gravando em outro arquivo que não é o /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. Como saber em qual arquivo o dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 está

Re: X Windows

2004-11-02 Thread Tiago Saboga
Em Ter 02 Nov 2004 13:15, free-linux escreveu: Olá Lista, Estou tentando configurar o X, mas quando dou dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 ele está gravando em outro arquivo que não é o /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. Como saber em qual arquivo o dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 está gravando. Pois

Re: x-windows configuration in woody/sarge

2004-10-18 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have been trying to install debian on a Compaq Deskpro EN for last one week. I have tried both woody (stable) and sarge (testing). In both, the x-windows configuration does not work. In woody, installation went fine except that none of the video

Re: x-windows configuration in woody/sarge

2004-10-18 Thread Alexis Huxley
at the end nothing worked. I think the problem is again with x-windows. What does one do? Start by explaining in a lot more detail what nothing worked means: what commands did you run which didn't work? If you cannot get the X server running, or it just didn't start on its own at boot-time,

Re: x-windows configuration in woody/sarge

2004-10-18 Thread Harshal
why did it take 13 hours for you to download??? is JNU part of ernet? if yes then, use the debian mirror at IIT Madras. here from university of pune i downloaded the sarge in 20 mins at 625 Kb/s. the ernet is really fast. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: x-windows configuration in woody/sarge

2004-10-18 Thread Paul E Condon
On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 12:39:47PM +0530, Vikas Rawal wrote: I have been trying to install debian on a Compaq Deskpro EN for last one week. I have tried both woody (stable) and sarge (testing). In both, the x-windows configuration does not work. In woody, installation went fine except that

Re: x-windows configuration in woody/sarge

2004-10-18 Thread Clive Menzies
On (18/10/04 09:40), Paul E Condon wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 12:39:47PM +0530, Vikas Rawal wrote: I have been trying to install debian on a Compaq Deskpro EN for last one week. I have tried both woody (stable) and sarge (testing). In both, the x-windows configuration does not work.

Re: x-windows configuration in woody/sarge

2004-10-18 Thread Carl Fink
On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 09:44:03AM +, Alexis Huxley wrote: If you cannot get the X server running, or it just didn't start on its own at boot-time, then post the output from running 'X' from the console - all of it, exactly as it appears. Or the more common startx. -- Carl Fink

Re: X Windows security

2004-10-16 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sherman, Michael (GE Energy) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a quick question. I know that a machine is much less secure when X Windows is running. Does it apply in the same way when X stuff is installed, but the desktop is not actually running?

Re: X Windows security

2004-10-15 Thread Don Parris
Sherman, Michael (GE Energy) wrote: Hi all. I have a quick question. I know that a machine is much less secure when X Windows is running. Does it apply in the same way when X stuff is installed, but the desktop is not actually running? How secure are vncserver sessions and X over ssh? Thanks in

Re: X Windows security

2004-10-15 Thread Don Parris
Sherman, Michael (GE Energy) wrote: Hi all. I have a quick question. I know that a machine is much less secure when X Windows is running. Does it apply in the same way when X stuff is installed, but the desktop is not actually running? How secure are vncserver sessions and X over ssh? Thanks in

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-19 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-09-19 03:11:47, schrieb Björn Schmidt: Dirk Salva wrote: Es ist ja auch nicht ganz so wichtig, was er theoretisch kann, sondern vielmehr, wieviel das Board unterstuetzt. Und es gab damals genug, die nur 64MB gecachet haben und dann mittels COAST-Modulen aufgeruestet werden konnten.

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-19 Thread Bjrn Schmidt
Michelle Konzack wrote: Meine Boards sind alles HX und aufwärts... Und für die HX-boards habe ich über all 512 MB Cache Module Wenn Du schon mitreden musst, dann gibt wenigstens reelle Speichergrößen an. -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen Bjoern Schmidt -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ):

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-19 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-09-19 13:38:18, schrieb Björn Schmidt: Michelle Konzack wrote: Meine Boards sind alles HX und aufwärts... Und für die HX-boards habe ich über all 512 MB Cache Module Wenn Du schon mitreden musst, dann gibt wenigstens reelle Speichergrößen an. Wie alle anderen... 256kByte 512er

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-19 Thread Bjrn Schmidt
Michelle Konzack wrote: Meine Boards sind alles HX und aufwärts... Und für die HX-boards habe ich über all 512 MB Cache Module Wenn Du schon mitreden musst, dann gibt wenigstens reelle Speichergrößen an. Wie alle anderen... 256kByte Also steht 512 MB Cache Module doch nicht für 512MByte? Na gut,

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-19 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-09-19 15:57:13, schrieb Björn Schmidt: Michelle Konzack wrote: Meine Boards sind alles HX und aufwärts... Und für die HX-boards habe ich über all 512 MB Cache Module Wenn Du schon mitreden musst, dann gibt wenigstens reelle Speichergrößen an. Wie alle anderen... 256kByte

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-19 Thread Bjrn Schmidt
Michelle Konzack wrote: Doch. Ich hatte ein 512kB COAST Modul mit integriertem TAG-RAM benutzt. Welcher Hersteller ? Das weiss ich nicht mehr, ich zu lange her. -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen Bjoern Schmidt -- Haeufig gestellte Fragen und Antworten (FAQ):

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-19 Thread erkan yanar
On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 04:57:34AM +0200, Rainer Bendig wrote: Hi Dirk Salva, *, [snip] Hier laufen zur Zeit abwechselnd ion2 und blackbox. ion2 deshalb weil das ein Windowmanager ist der sich praktisch ohne Maus bedienen lässt, zudem recht schlank und schnell ist. Ich kann in ion2

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-18 Thread Martin Schmitz
On Friday 17 September 2004 18:45, Dirk Salva wrote: Nur hat es *keiner* geschafft, *seine ganz persoenlichen* Gruende fuer einen bestimmten und gegen die anderen WM klar darzulegen. Bisher ist auch dieser thread wieder nur eine nette Aufzaehlung, in der zwar jeder seine Vorliebe an den Mann

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-18 Thread Dirk Salva
On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 11:53:01PM +0200, Andreas Janssen wrote: Tja, bei mir sitzt noch ein K6-II drauf, der hat nur den 1st level cache eingebaut. Der 2nd level cache sitzt auf der Hauptplatine (VIA MVP3) und ist recht klein (256kb?). Jau, und wenn Du Dir jetzt einen K6-III goennst, wird der

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-18 Thread Dirk Salva
On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 02:10:26AM +0200, Uwe Laverenz wrote: Das war ganz frueher der Fall, IMHO z.B. bei so Antiquitaeten wie dem Triton-Chipsatz (HX?). Ist aber bei einem AMD K6-III egal, weil der Sorry, aber der HX war der hochwertigste der damaligen Intel-Chipsätze, der konnte bis zu

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-18 Thread Björn Schmidt
Dirk Salva wrote: Es ist ja auch nicht ganz so wichtig, was er theoretisch kann, sondern vielmehr, wieviel das Board unterstuetzt. Und es gab damals genug, die nur 64MB gecachet haben und dann mittels COAST-Modulen aufgeruestet werden konnten. Und davor hatten die Boards leere IC-Sockel, die man

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-18 Thread Rainer Bendig
Hi Dirk Salva, *, Dirk Salva wrote on Fri Sep 17, 2004 at 06:45:30PM +0200: fvwm, windowmaker, blackbox, fluxbox, icewm, xfce4. Nur hat es *keiner* geschafft, *seine ganz persoenlichen* Gruende fuer einen bestimmten und gegen die anderen WM klar darzulegen. Bisher ist auch dieser thread

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-18 Thread Dirk Salva
On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 09:18:19PM +0200, MarcMeyer wrote: Dirk Salva wrote: On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 12:13:34PM +0200, Martin Werthmoeller wrote: Wie ist das mit dem Ressourcenverbrauch bezüglich des RAM? Ist Deiner Erfahrung nach ein K6-III-400 / 96MB ausreichend? Aehm. Wie

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-18 Thread Christian Schmidt
Hallo Pascal, Pascal Volk, 17.09.2004 (d.m.y): Ich stehe voll auf XFce, weil: * schnell und schlank * kann alles was er können soll und wohl noch viel mehr * der Desktop kann nicht zugemüllt werden ...und xfce kommt dem CDE kommerzieller Unix-Systeme wohl am naechsten -

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-17 Thread Martin Werthmoeller
Am Thu, 16 Sep 2004 um 16:23 GMT +0200 schrieb Walter Saner: und hat nicht ohne Grund seit Jahren fvwm als Standard-Linux-WindowManager abgelöst. Seit wann gibt es einen Standard-Linux-Windowmanager? Och, schon lange. Linux? Ein Windowmanager für den Kernel? :-) Gruß, martin!

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-17 Thread Walter Saner
Martin Werthmoeller schrieb: Am Thu, 16 Sep 2004 um 16:23 GMT +0200 schrieb Walter Saner: Seit wann gibt es einen Standard-Linux-Windowmanager? Och, schon lange. Linux? Ein Windowmanager für den Kernel? :-) Da kannst du mal sehen, wie nützlich ein fehlertoleranter Parser ist. Der

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-17 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hallo Oliver Thieke ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [welcher Windowmanager?] Gibt es im grossen weiten Netz keine Seite, wo mal die Manager verglichen werden ? Z.B. nach den Kriterien wie: + Ressourcenverbrauch Ich habe hier auf einem nicht ganz so alten Rechner (K6-II-400) xfce4

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-17 Thread Martin Werthmoeller
Am Fri, 17 Sep 2004 um 10:52 GMT +0200 schrieb Andreas Janssen: Hallo Hallo Andreas, Ich habe hier auf einem nicht ganz so alten Rechner (K6-II-400) xfce4 installiert. Der braucht mehr Ressourcen als sagen wir mal fluxbox, aber ist so eine Art leichtgewichtige Desktop-Umgebung. Das Ding

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-17 Thread Martin Samesch
On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 04:23:02PM +0200, Walter Saner wrote: Martin Werthmoeller schrieb: Am Wed, 15 Sep 2004 um 23:56 GMT +0200 schrieb Martin Schmitz: Da brauchst Du keinen Vergleich. WindowMaker dürfte in allen genannten Kategorien am besten abschneiden AFAIK Ansichtssache

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-17 Thread Eduard Bloch
Moin Oliver! Oliver Thieke schrieb am Mittwoch, den 15. September 2004: + Ressourcenverbrauch IceWM, Wmaker, nehmen sich nicht viel. + Unterstuetzung von Hotkeys IceWM, Wmaker. Man kann auch extra-Tools nehmen (xbindkeys, xbindkeys-config). + Untestuetzung anderer GUI-Libs (?) - GTK,

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-17 Thread Dirk Salva
On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 02:31:11PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: IceWM, Wmaker, nehmen sich nicht viel. Sche... auch. Jetzt hatte ich gehofft, dass in diesem thread wirklich mal jemand ein *vergleichbares* Urteil faellt, und wieder nix. Da wurde bisher empfohlen: fvwm, windowmaker, blackbox,

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-17 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hallo Martin Werthmoeller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Am Fri, 17 Sep 2004 um 10:52 GMT +0200 schrieb Andreas Janssen: Ich habe hier auf einem nicht ganz so alten Rechner (K6-II-400) xfce4 installiert. Der braucht mehr Ressourcen als sagen wir mal fluxbox, aber ist so eine Art

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-17 Thread Pascal Volk
Am 17.09.2004 18:45 schrieb Dirk Salva: Sche... auch. Jetzt hatte ich gehofft, dass in diesem thread wirklich mal jemand ein *vergleichbares* Urteil faellt, und wieder nix. Da wurde bisher empfohlen: fvwm, windowmaker, blackbox, fluxbox, icewm, xfce4. Nur hat es *keiner* geschafft, *seine

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-17 Thread Hans-Georg Bork
Moin, On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 07:41:05PM +0200, Andreas Janssen wrote: Hallo Martin Werthmoeller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [...] Wie ist das mit dem Ressourcenverbrauch bezüglich des RAM? Ist Deiner Erfahrung nach ein K6-III-400 / 96MB ausreichend? Ja. Auf meinem Rechner habe ich es

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-17 Thread Andreas Kneib
* Oliver Thieke [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ich hoffe Ihr hab da nen Tip ;-) ! Ich habe eine Weile lang evilwm [1] benutzt, jetzt läuft hier gerne ratpoison [2] (in der Bedienung mit screen [3] zu vergleichen). Letzteres wird dann beim Start von ratpoison gleich in einem aterm gestartet. Mir langt das

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-17 Thread Björn Schmidt
Dirk Salva wrote: Sche... auch. Jetzt hatte ich gehofft, dass in diesem thread wirklich mal jemand ein *vergleichbares* Urteil faellt, und wieder nix. Da wurde bisher empfohlen: fvwm, windowmaker, blackbox, fluxbox, icewm, xfce4. Nur hat es *keiner* geschafft, *seine ganz persoenlichen* Gruende

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-17 Thread Dirk Salva
On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 12:13:34PM +0200, Martin Werthmoeller wrote: Wie ist das mit dem Ressourcenverbrauch bezüglich des RAM? Ist Deiner Erfahrung nach ein K6-III-400 / 96MB ausreichend? Aehm. Wie waers mit RAM kaufen? Mit mehr Speicher ist ein K6-III-400 noch absolut brauchbar, bei mir

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-17 Thread Dirk Salva
On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 07:46:53PM +0200, Pascal Volk wrote: Nur hat es *keiner* geschafft, *seine ganz persoenlichen* Gruende Ich stehe voll auf XFce, weil: * schnell und schlank * kann alles was er können soll und wohl noch viel mehr * der Desktop kann nicht zugemüllt

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-17 Thread MarcMeyer
Dirk Salva wrote: On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 12:13:34PM +0200, Martin Werthmoeller wrote: Wie ist das mit dem Ressourcenverbrauch bezüglich des RAM? Ist Deiner Erfahrung nach ein K6-III-400 / 96MB ausreichend? Aehm. Wie waers mit RAM kaufen? Mit mehr Speicher ist ein K6-III-400 noch absolut

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-17 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hallo MarcMeyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Dirk Salva wrote: On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 12:13:34PM +0200, Martin Werthmoeller wrote: Wie ist das mit dem Ressourcenverbrauch bezüglich des RAM? Ist Deiner Erfahrung nach ein K6-III-400 / 96MB ausreichend? Aehm. Wie waers mit RAM kaufen? Mit

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-17 Thread Uwe Laverenz
On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 09:34:11PM +0200, Andreas Janssen wrote: Gibt es bei den Rechnern nicht unterhalb der maximalen Unterstützung auch noch eine Grenze für den Bereich, der gecached werden kann? Mein Board sagt glaube ich beim Starten was über eine DRAM cacheable area (128 MB). Ja, eine

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-17 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-09-15 23:56:06, schrieb Martin Schmitz: Da brauchst Du keinen Vergleich. WindowMaker dürfte in allen genannten Kategorien am besten abschneiden und hat nicht ohne Grund seit Jahren fvwm als Standard-Linux-WindowManager abgelöst. Außerdem ist es der Hä ??? - Ich habe ih noch

Re: [X-Windows] generell: passenden WindowManager auswaehlen

2004-09-17 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-09-16 16:23:02, schrieb Walter Saner: | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ su -c update-alternatives --config x-window-manager | Password: | | There are 3 alternatives which provide window-manager'. | | SelectionAlternative | --- | 1

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