Re: Using an advanced video editor under Debian Lenny

2010-08-30 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sun August 29 2010, Rob Owens wrote:
  Did you encounter any compatibility or dependencies issues?

 I don't recall any.

 I think it's also fairly straightforward to install ffmpeg from testing.
 Kdenlive uses ffmpeg for encoding/decoding, if I remember correctly, so
 having a recent version of ffmpeg can sometimes make a difference in the
 performance of Kdenlive.

I just installed it on my lenny system by aptitude install kdenlive. I got 
this:
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  dvgrab{a} kdenlive libmlt++1{a} libmlt-data{a} libmlt1{a} mlt{a} 
  swh-plugins{a} 
0 packages upgraded, 7 newly installed, 0 to remove and 28 not upgraded.
Need to get 6413kB of archives. After unpacking 19.4MB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] 


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Re: Using an advanced video editor under Debian Lenny

2010-08-29 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 21:02:53 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:

(...)

* LiveS: Looks really nice. Tried to
 install from source (with `jack*' stuff), but gives

(...)

 main.c:1103: error: expected identifier or ‘(’ before ‘}’ token make[1]:
 *** [main.o] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory
 `/home/merciadriluca/Desktop/lives/lives-1.0.9/src' make: ***
 [all-recursive] Error 1
 ==
 at compilation;

Just one side note. LiveS (and Cinelerra as Alexander J. already pointed 
out) is available from debian-multimedia repo for your Lenny.

(...)
 
 Many years ago, under Windows, I was using Sony Vegas, and it looks like
 Cinelerra is the one which looks the most like Vegas. Any suggestions?

Wikipedia features a good comparion table about each non-linear video 
editor and their functionalities:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_editing_software

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Re: Using an advanced video editor under Debian Lenny

2010-08-29 Thread Rob Owens
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 08:36:35AM +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
 
 The problem with Kdenlive is that this is not available under Lenny. =(
 
I have it installed on my Lenny system.  It's in the debian-multimedia
repository.

-Rob


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Re: Using an advanced video editor under Debian Lenny

2010-08-29 Thread Merciadri Luca
Rob Owens wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 08:36:35AM +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
   
 The problem with Kdenlive is that this is not available under Lenny. =(

 
 I have it installed on my Lenny system.  It's in the debian-multimedia
 repository.
   
Did you encounter any compatibility or dependencies issues?

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Re: Using an advanced video editor under Debian Lenny

2010-08-29 Thread Rob Owens
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 12:05:21AM +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
 Rob Owens wrote:
  On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 08:36:35AM +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:

  The problem with Kdenlive is that this is not available under Lenny. =(
 
  
  I have it installed on my Lenny system.  It's in the debian-multimedia
  repository.

 Did you encounter any compatibility or dependencies issues?
 
I don't recall any.

I think it's also fairly straightforward to install ffmpeg from testing.
Kdenlive uses ffmpeg for encoding/decoding, if I remember correctly, so
having a recent version of ffmpeg can sometimes make a difference in the
performance of Kdenlive.

-Rob


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Re: Using an advanced video editor under Debian Lenny

2010-08-28 Thread Merciadri Luca
godo wrote:
 On 08/27/2010 09:02 PM, Merciadri Luca wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Months ago, I looked for an advanced video editor for Debian. Here is
  what I found:
 
  * PiTiVi: I can't make it work once installed. Many buttons are
 missing.
  I can't understand it. Maybe it's too simple for me (I tend to
  misunderstand simple things, seriously)!
  * Cinelerra: Nice, but there is not yet any Debian Lenny version. I
  tried to install it from source weeks ago, and I remember that
  compilation went terribly bad because some packages were too
 old/recent.
  I also tried from other repo, but to no avail;
  * Avidemux: Not a sufficient amount of functionalities;
  * Kdenlive: Looks nice (not tested yet), but I'm using GNOME. So, if
  there's another tool, better to install a GNOME tool;
  * Kino: for IEEE-1394, no interest for me;
  * LiveS: Looks really nice. Tried to install from source (with `jack*'
  stuff), but gives
 
  * OpenShot: Looks nice, but packages are for Ubuntu. I might consider
  compiling this one from source (but dependencies problems will be
  tedious to solve);
  * openmovieeditor: why not!
  * Kino: I can't get it to work as I want.
 
  Many years ago, under Windows, I was using Sony Vegas, and it looks
 like
  Cinelerra is the one which looks the most like Vegas. Any suggestions?
 
  All the best,
 
 Hi,
 I'm using Kdenlive (Squeeze KDE box) for video editing and it's more
 than enough for me.
 Just for trans-coding: ffmpeg, ffmpeg2theora and Avidemux.

 If you want OpenShot
 http://www.openshotvideo.com/2008/04/download.html look for Build
 Wizard on the page. It is python script for installation on Debian.

Thanks. The problem with the `Build Wizard' tool is that this looks to
be done for Ubuntu. I don't like messing with Ubuntu when I'm under
Debian. As a first question I'm asked which version of Ubuntu I'm
running. But I'm running Debian Lenny!

The problem with Kdenlive is that this is not available under Lenny. =(

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Re: Using an advanced video editor under Debian Lenny

2010-08-28 Thread godo



Thanks. The problem with the `Build Wizard' tool is that this looks to
be done for Ubuntu. I don't like messing with Ubuntu when I'm under
Debian. As a first question I'm asked which version of Ubuntu I'm
running. But I'm running Debian Lenny!


That's really nice, on the site is written Debian / Ubuntu.


The problem with Kdenlive is that this is not available under Lenny. =(

If you want (and if you can use it that way) you can download from their 
site http://www.kdenlive.org/ VirtualBox image.


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Re: Using an advanced video editor under Debian Lenny

2010-08-28 Thread Merciadri Luca
godo wrote:

 Thanks. The problem with the `Build Wizard' tool is that this looks to
 be done for Ubuntu. I don't like messing with Ubuntu when I'm under
 Debian. As a first question I'm asked which version of Ubuntu I'm
 running. But I'm running Debian Lenny!

 That's really nice, on the site is written Debian / Ubuntu.
Yes, but when you execute the Python script, there is no more mention of
any Debian stuff.
 The problem with Kdenlive is that this is not available under Lenny. =(

 If you want (and if you can use it that way) you can download from
 their site http://www.kdenlive.org/ VirtualBox image.
Yes, but performances are going to be extremely bad, aren't they?


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Re: Using an advanced video editor under Debian Lenny

2010-08-28 Thread godo



If you want (and if you can use it that way) you can download from
their site http://www.kdenlive.org/ VirtualBox image.

Yes, but performances are going to be extremely bad, aren't they?



I really don't know, that depends on your hardware and what you want edit.
I have Squeeze and Kdenlive on IBM R51 laptop CPU=1.6 RAM=1024 but I 
only edit sometimes small movies from camera.
I guess if you have any modern CPU and 2-3gb RAM it would be enough for 
VB+Kdenlive, but video editing is always CPU and RAM hungry.


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Using an advanced video editor under Debian Lenny

2010-08-27 Thread Merciadri Luca
Hi,

Months ago, I looked for an advanced video editor for Debian. Here is
what I found:

* PiTiVi: I can't make it work once installed. Many buttons are missing.
I can't understand it. Maybe it's too simple for me (I tend to
misunderstand simple things, seriously)!
* Cinelerra: Nice, but there is not yet any Debian Lenny version. I
tried to install it from source weeks ago, and I remember that
compilation went terribly bad because some packages were too old/recent.
I also tried from other repo, but to no avail;
* Avidemux: Not a sufficient amount of functionalities;
* Kdenlive: Looks nice (not tested yet), but I'm using GNOME. So, if
there's another tool, better to install a GNOME tool;
* Kino: for IEEE-1394, no interest for me;
* LiveS: Looks really nice. Tried to install from source (with `jack*'
stuff), but gives

==
libtool: compile:  gcc -DPACKAGE_NAME=\LiVES\
-DPACKAGE_TARNAME=\lives\ -DPACKAGE_VERSION=\1.0.9\
-DPACKAGE_STRING=\LiVES 1.0.9\
-DPACKAGE_BUGREPORT=\http://www.sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=64341atid=507139\;
-DPACKAGE_URL=\\ -DPACKAGE=\lives\ -DVERSION=\1.0.9\
-DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_STAT_H=1
-DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_MEMORY_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1
-DHAVE_INTTYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_STDINT_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1
-D__EXTENSIONS__=1 -D_ALL_SOURCE=1 -D_GNU_SOURCE=1
-D_POSIX_PTHREAD_SEMANTICS=1 -D_TANDEM_SOURCE=1 -DHAVE_DLFCN_H=1
-DLT_OBJDIR=\.libs/\ -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64
-DGETTEXT_PACKAGE=\lives\ -DLOCALEDIR=\\${datarootdir}/locale\
-DPREFIX=\NONE\ -DLiVES_VERSION=\1.0.9\ -DHAVE_ALLOCA_H=1
-DHAVE_ALLOCA=1 -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_GETPAGESIZE=1
-DHAVE_MMAP=1 -DINTDIV0_RAISES_SIGFPE=1 -DHAVE_INTTYPES_H_WITH_UINTMAX=1
-DHAVE_STDINT_H_WITH_UINTMAX=1 -DHAVE_UNSIGNED_LONG_LONG=1
-DHAVE_UINTMAX_T=1 -DHAVE_INTTYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_ARGZ_H=1 -DHAVE_LIMITS_H=1
-DHAVE_LOCALE_H=1 -DHAVE_NL_TYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_MALLOC_H=1
-DHAVE_STDDEF_H=1 -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1
-DHAVE_SYS_PARAM_H=1 -DHAVE_FEOF_UNLOCKED=1 -DHAVE_FGETS_UNLOCKED=1
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-DHAVE_GETGID=1 -DHAVE_GETUID=1 -DHAVE_MEMPCPY=1 -DHAVE_MUNMAP=1
-DHAVE_PUTENV=1 -DHAVE_SETENV=1 -DHAVE_SETLOCALE=1 -DHAVE_STPCPY=1
-DHAVE_STRCASECMP=1 -DHAVE_STRDUP=1 -DHAVE_STRTOUL=1 -DHAVE_TSEARCH=1
-DHAVE___ARGZ_COUNT=1 -DHAVE___ARGZ_STRINGIFY=1 -DHAVE___ARGZ_NEXT=1
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-DHAVE_GETTEXT=1 -DHAVE_DCGETTEXT=1 -DHAVE_LIBDL=1
-DHAVE_POSIX_MEMALIGN=1 -DHAVE_LINUX_JOYSTICK_H=1
-DHAVE_LIBRAW1394_RAW1394_H=1 -I. -O3 -fPIC -DPIC -g -O2 -Wall -MT
libweed_plugin_utils_la-weed-plugin-utils.lo -MD -MP -MF
.deps/libweed_plugin_utils_la-weed-plugin-utils.Tpo -c
weed-plugin-utils.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o
.libs/libweed_plugin_utils_la-weed-plugin-utils.o
libtool: compile:  gcc -DPACKAGE_NAME=\LiVES\
-DPACKAGE_TARNAME=\lives\ -DPACKAGE_VERSION=\1.0.9\
-DPACKAGE_STRING=\LiVES 1.0.9\
-DPACKAGE_BUGREPORT=\http://www.sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=64341atid=507139\;
-DPACKAGE_URL=\\ -DPACKAGE=\lives\ -DVERSION=\1.0.9\
-DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_STAT_H=1
-DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_MEMORY_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1
-DHAVE_INTTYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_STDINT_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1
-D__EXTENSIONS__=1 -D_ALL_SOURCE=1 -D_GNU_SOURCE=1
-D_POSIX_PTHREAD_SEMANTICS=1 -D_TANDEM_SOURCE=1 -DHAVE_DLFCN_H=1
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-DHAVE_LOCALE_H=1 -DHAVE_NL_TYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_MALLOC_H=1
-DHAVE_STDDEF_H=1 -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1
-DHAVE_SYS_PARAM_H=1 -DHAVE_FEOF_UNLOCKED=1 -DHAVE_FGETS_UNLOCKED=1
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-DHAVE_GETGID=1 -DHAVE_GETUID=1 -DHAVE_MEMPCPY=1 -DHAVE_MUNMAP=1
-DHAVE_PUTENV=1 -DHAVE_SETENV=1 -DHAVE_SETLOCALE=1 -DHAVE_STPCPY=1
-DHAVE_STRCASECMP=1 -DHAVE_STRDUP=1 -DHAVE_STRTOUL=1 -DHAVE_TSEARCH=1
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weed-plugin-utils.c -o libweed_plugin_utils_la-weed-plugin-utils.o
/dev/null 21
mv -f .deps/libweed_plugin_utils_la-weed-plugin-utils.Tpo

Re: Using an advanced video editor under Debian Lenny

2010-08-27 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2010 27 Aug 14:05 -0500, Merciadri Luca wrote:
 * OpenShot: Looks nice, but packages are for Ubuntu. I might consider
 compiling this one from source (but dependencies problems will be
 tedious to solve);

Openshot is in Squeeze and Sid as native packages now.  Of course that
doesn't help if you're running Lenny or older.

Compiling it is an interesting experience and unlike any other package I
tried to build locally.  There is a script in the source distribution
that will pull in a number of packages and install them and then pull in
several source packages, build, and install them.  It took a while but
in the end it did work on Sid earlier this year.  Lenny might be too old
for this anyway without a lot of manual work.  In the end I was able to
do the simple video editing I wanted which I couldn't accomplish with
any other package I tried.

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Re: Using an advanced video editor under Debian Lenny

2010-08-27 Thread godo

On 08/27/2010 09:02 PM, Merciadri Luca wrote:
 Hi,

 Months ago, I looked for an advanced video editor for Debian. Here is
 what I found:

 * PiTiVi: I can't make it work once installed. Many buttons are missing.
 I can't understand it. Maybe it's too simple for me (I tend to
 misunderstand simple things, seriously)!
 * Cinelerra: Nice, but there is not yet any Debian Lenny version. I
 tried to install it from source weeks ago, and I remember that
 compilation went terribly bad because some packages were too old/recent.
 I also tried from other repo, but to no avail;
 * Avidemux: Not a sufficient amount of functionalities;
 * Kdenlive: Looks nice (not tested yet), but I'm using GNOME. So, if
 there's another tool, better to install a GNOME tool;
 * Kino: for IEEE-1394, no interest for me;
 * LiveS: Looks really nice. Tried to install from source (with `jack*'
 stuff), but gives

 * OpenShot: Looks nice, but packages are for Ubuntu. I might consider
 compiling this one from source (but dependencies problems will be
 tedious to solve);
 * openmovieeditor: why not!
 * Kino: I can't get it to work as I want.

 Many years ago, under Windows, I was using Sony Vegas, and it looks like
 Cinelerra is the one which looks the most like Vegas. Any suggestions?

 All the best,

Hi,
I'm using Kdenlive (Squeeze KDE box) for video editing and it's more 
than enough for me.

Just for trans-coding: ffmpeg, ffmpeg2theora and Avidemux.

If you want OpenShot http://www.openshotvideo.com/2008/04/download.html 
look for Build Wizard on the page. It is python script for 
installation on Debian.


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Re: Using an advanced video editor under Debian Lenny

2010-08-27 Thread ajm
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 01:26:16AM +0200, godo wrote:
 On 08/27/2010 09:02 PM, Merciadri Luca wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Months ago, I looked for an advanced video editor for Debian. Here is
  what I found:
 
  * PiTiVi: I can't make it work once installed. Many buttons are missing.
  I can't understand it. Maybe it's too simple for me (I tend to
  misunderstand simple things, seriously)!
  * Cinelerra: Nice, but there is not yet any Debian Lenny version. I
  tried to install it from source weeks ago, and I remember that
  compilation went terribly bad because some packages were too old/recent.
  I also tried from other repo, but to no avail;
  * Avidemux: Not a sufficient amount of functionalities;
  * Kdenlive: Looks nice (not tested yet), but I'm using GNOME. So, if
  there's another tool, better to install a GNOME tool;
  * Kino: for IEEE-1394, no interest for me;
  * LiveS: Looks really nice. Tried to install from source (with `jack*'
  stuff), but gives
 
  * OpenShot: Looks nice, but packages are for Ubuntu. I might consider
  compiling this one from source (but dependencies problems will be
  tedious to solve);
  * openmovieeditor: why not!
  * Kino: I can't get it to work as I want.
 
  Many years ago, under Windows, I was using Sony Vegas, and it looks like
  Cinelerra is the one which looks the most like Vegas. Any suggestions?
 
  All the best,
 
 Hi,
 I'm using Kdenlive (Squeeze KDE box) for video editing and it's more
 than enough for me.
 Just for trans-coding: ffmpeg, ffmpeg2theora and Avidemux.
 
 If you want OpenShot
 http://www.openshotvideo.com/2008/04/download.html look for Build
 Wizard on the page. It is python script for installation on Debian.
 
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Have you tried 
http://www.debian-multimedia.org/
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Re: Using an advanced video editor under Debian Lenny

2010-08-27 Thread godo



Have you tried
http://www.debian-multimedia.org/
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Once, but figured that it is for more advanced editing that I need.

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