Re: Very slow network with certain APs -- ipv6 problem?

2012-07-05 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 04 Jul 2012 15:09:25 -0700, Paul Zimmerman wrote:

 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You mean you're still using ipv4 with no ipv6 support from the OS at
 all?
 
 I am using an up-to-date install of Squeeze. There were several network
 
 related updates when IPv6 was supposed to be activated. So I presume
 
 this was an activation for Debian. 

The default Debian installation should enable ipv6 but if you manually 
turned it off and did an upgrade instead a clean install, this setting 
could have been honored so better check if ipv6 is on or off.

 Since then, certain wireless APs have not worked properly. 

Certain? You mean that for some worked and others not? It can be then a 
corner issue with those specific access points :-?

 It claims to connect and get an IP address, but there is almost no
 actual traffic. It can take 5 or 10 minutes to get a simple page with
 mostly text and very few graphics. 

You can turn off ipv6 from the browser (eg.g, Icewasel/Firefox) and then 
retry to see if you get any difference.

 Yet, these same IPs are as fast as ever when you connect with a Windows
 machine. Which leads me to suspect that Windows automatically detects
 what the AP is using and adjusts, while Linux does not.

I don't have enough information to reach such a conclusion, but this can 
be easily tested by disabling ipv6 completely from your linux box and 
check for the results.

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Re: Very slow network with certain APs -- ipv6 problem?

2012-07-05 Thread Rick Thomas


On Jul 4, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Paul Zimmerman wrote:


Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

You mean you're still using ipv4 with no ipv6 support from the OS  
at all?


I am using an up-to-date install of Squeeze. There were several  
network


related updates when IPv6 was supposed to be activated. So I presume

this was an activation for Debian. Since then, certain wireless APs  
have
not worked properly. It claims to connect and get an IP address, but  
there
is almost no actual traffic. It can take 5 or 10 minutes to get a  
simple page
with mostly text and very few graphics. Yet, these same IPs are as  
fast as


ever when you connect with a Windows machine. Which leads me to  
suspect
that Windows automatically detects what the AP is using and adjusts,  
while

Linux does not.


There is a problem that sometimes occurs:

If the AP does not properly route IPv6 traffic, but does mistakenly  
advertise an IPv6 prefix, and some website has  records (IPv6  
addresses) in DNS, your browser may try to connect to the IPv6  
address, causing a long time-out.  Usually, it will give up and re-try  
the connection with IPv4, causing bursty behavior with successful IPv4  
traffic interspersed with long timeouts trying IPv6.


You can test for that by temporarily disabling IPv6 entirely on your  
client machine as described in the website Camaleón pointed to.


Rick


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Re: Very slow network with certain APs -- ipv6 problem?

2012-07-04 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 16:10:46 -0700, Paul Zimmerman wrote:

 Since the official switch to IPv6 I've been having serious problems
 with certain wireless APs. Some are unchanged, but others are very, very
 slw for no detectable reason. Yet, the same APs are just as easily
 accessible as always with a Windows machine. Could there be a problem
 caused by not updating for the change to IPv6? 

You mean you're still using ipv4 with no ipv6 support from the OS at all?

 Something that Windows would detect and adjust for automatically? Is
 there some simple way to make my Linux system use IPv4 again with only
 those certain APs?

To discard a problem coming from the ipv6 stack, you can try to disable/
enable it system wide and check if the issue with the AP is still present 
or not.

Some tips to turn it off:

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianIPv6#How_to_turn_off_IPv6

Anyway, my wild guess is that the problem with the AP can be because of 
the driver or another environmental or configuration factors. What's your 
wifi adapter and what driver are you using? When you say is slow what 
are the exact symtoms you experience (e.g., random reconnects, download/
upload speed is not as expected, lazy AP -it takes so long to get 
associated with your computer-...)?

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Re: Very slow network with certain APs -- ipv6 problem?

2012-07-04 Thread Paul Zimmerman
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 You mean you're still using ipv4 with no ipv6 support from the OS at all?

I am using an up-to-date install of Squeeze. There were several network 

related updates when IPv6 was supposed to be activated. So I presume 

this was an activation for Debian. Since then, certain wireless APs have
not worked properly. It claims to connect and get an IP address, but there
is almost no actual traffic. It can take 5 or 10 minutes to get a simple page
with mostly text and very few graphics. Yet, these same IPs are as fast as 

ever when you connect with a Windows machine. Which leads me to suspect
that Windows automatically detects what the AP is using and adjusts, while
Linux does not.



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Very slow network with certain APs -- ipv6 problem?

2012-07-03 Thread Paul Zimmerman
Since the official switch to IPv6 I've been having serious problems with 
certain wireless APs. Some are unchanged, but others are very, very slw for 
no detectable reason. Yet, the same APs are just as easily accessible as always 
with a Windows machine. Could there be a problem caused by not updating for the 
change to IPv6? Something that Windows would detect and adjust for 
automatically? Is there some simple way to make my Linux system use IPv4 again 
with only those certain APs?


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