Re: cable modem connection slower than dial up

2006-11-24 Thread Gianfranco

Hi all!
I've the same problem...
On the same pc, with windows xp internet is fast (about 80k) but with 
the latest debian etch, internet is very very very slow (about 25k)!!
I've installed debian sarge, dist-upgrading to etch and the download 
speed is about 80k. But installing the deb linux-image-2.6.17-2-686 with 
his dependencies, the download speed decrease to 25k...

What's the problem?
Thank's and sorry for my english


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Re: cable modem connection slower than dial up

2006-11-06 Thread Ken Irving
On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 07:48:17PM -0800, schmity wrote:
 Here is what I get when I do the tests.  It takes a long time to ping
 google and yahoo.  Telnet didn't work with google or yahoo and it was
 extremely slow also.  Don't know about the ipv6 packet or where to
 ...

Maybe check the MTU setting for the interface.  It might need to 
be reduced.

Ken

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Re: cable modem connection slower then dial up

2006-11-06 Thread David R. Litwin
On 06/11/06, Zoran Kolic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a cable modem connected to a router that connects to a Windows XP machine and my Debian linux machine.Internet on the Windows XP machine is extremely fast and the Debian machine is slower than dial up
 (no joke! night and day difference!)What is wrong with the Debian machine?Forgive me for jumping in like this. I have no idea what the original querier's problem is, save the quotation above. Given that, I wish to state the following:
I too had this problem. I got rid of dhcp, chucked the /etc/resolv.conf file's content and let pppoeconf do the rest. This may be an over-simplification; in my defence, I cite my preamble.Perhaps that will help.
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Re: cable modem connection slower than dial up

2006-11-06 Thread Rodrigo Paes
On 5 Nov 2006 19:48:17 -0800
schmity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ping www.google.com
 PING www.l.google.com (216.239.37.104) 56(84) bytes of data.
 64 bytes from 216.239.37.104: icmp_seq=1 ttl=241 time=78.5 ms
 64 bytes from 216.239.37.104: icmp_seq=2 ttl=241 time=61.2 ms
 64 bytes from 216.239.37.104: icmp_seq=3 ttl=241 time=66.9 ms
 64 bytes from 216.239.37.104: icmp_seq=4 ttl=241 time=72.6 ms
 
snip

that's actually pretty good time... check out min :)

PING www.l.google.com (216.239.37.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=244 time=715 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=2 ttl=244 time=709 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=3 ttl=244 time=763 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=4 ttl=244 time=711 ms

do the telnet test again, but this time use the IP instead of the name, see if 
it is any faster

I had some issues like this, with a DSL modem, turnes out it can't handle the 
dns requests sent by the linux machine, you can try to set up a local dns 
server and see it solves the issue


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Re: cable modem connection slower than dial up

2006-11-06 Thread schmity
Ok I added the following line in my /etc/network/interfaces file

auto eth0
...
...
up ifconfig mtu 1450

after doing a ifdown -a and ifup -a I could verify the mtu by ifconfig
-a.
I tried 1450, 1400, 1300, 1200, .700.  None of which seemed to
help.

how do I check on the ipv6 packet?


Ken Irving wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 07:48:17PM -0800, schmity wrote:
  Here is what I get when I do the tests.  It takes a long time to ping
  google and yahoo.  Telnet didn't work with google or yahoo and it was
  extremely slow also.  Don't know about the ipv6 packet or where to
  ...

 Maybe check the MTU setting for the interface.  It might need to
 be reduced.

 Ken

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Re: cable modem connection slower than dial up

2006-11-06 Thread Miles Bader
Rodrigo Paes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 schmity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ping www.google.com
 PING www.l.google.com (216.239.37.104) 56(84) bytes of data.
 64 bytes from 216.239.37.104: icmp_seq=1 ttl=241 time=78.5 ms
 64 bytes from 216.239.37.104: icmp_seq=2 ttl=241 time=61.2 ms

 that's actually pretty good time... check out min :)

 PING www.l.google.com (216.239.37.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
 64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=244 time=715 ms
 64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=2 ttl=244 time=709 ms

I was shocked to see:

PING www.l.google.com (66.249.89.104): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 66.249.89.104: icmp_seq=0 ttl=243 time=15.3 ms
64 bytes from 66.249.89.104: icmp_seq=1 ttl=243 time=16.6 ms
64 bytes from 66.249.89.104: icmp_seq=2 ttl=243 time=16.7 ms
64 bytes from 66.249.89.104: icmp_seq=3 ttl=243 time=16.5 ms
...

Man the internet is faster than I remember...

Google, or somebody, is apparently doing something clever, because
according to traceroute[*], not only is there an unsually low number of
hops to the above google machine (only 11), but it's located in Japan
(where I am), avoiding the big trans-pacific delay (~100ms, generally)
that I get with most U.S. sites.

[*] Actually mtr -t, a very nice traceroute replacement.

-Miles

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Re: cable modem connection slower than dial up

2006-11-06 Thread Rodrigo Paes
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 06:40:44 +0900
Miles Bader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 PING www.l.google.com (66.249.89.104): 56 data bytes
 64 bytes from 66.249.89.104: icmp_seq=0 ttl=243 time=15.3 ms
 64 bytes from 66.249.89.104: icmp_seq=1 ttl=243 time=16.6 ms
 64 bytes from 66.249.89.104: icmp_seq=2 ttl=243 time=16.7 ms
 64 bytes from 66.249.89.104: icmp_seq=3 ttl=243 time=16.5 ms
 ...
 
dmn !! _that_ is fast..

Google has some Data Centers spread around the world, one of them is probably 
on the floor beneath you :)

about the hops, like I said.. either the DC is next to your house or you get 
inside a nice MPLS network that masks the real number of hops.


But about the connection speed, If I can surf the web pretty well with my 
shitty response time, .78ms should work aswell.


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Re: cable modem connection slower than dial up

2006-11-06 Thread Miles Bader
Rodrigo Paes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 PING www.l.google.com (66.249.89.104): 56 data bytes
 64 bytes from 66.249.89.104: icmp_seq=0 ttl=243 time=15.3 ms
 64 bytes from 66.249.89.104: icmp_seq=1 ttl=243 time=16.6 ms
 64 bytes from 66.249.89.104: icmp_seq=2 ttl=243 time=16.7 ms
 64 bytes from 66.249.89.104: icmp_seq=3 ttl=243 time=16.5 ms
 ...
 dmn !! _that_ is fast..

 Google has some Data Centers spread around the world, one of them is
 probably on the floor beneath you :)

This is at my house, so I'm not sure if I should be pleased or freaked
out that google has managed to sneak some servers in here...  :-)
Well, one must never underestimate google I suppose!

-miles

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Re: cable modem connection slower then dial up

2006-11-06 Thread schmity
Ok.  It seems that the internet is extremely fast when I use Mozilla
and extremely slow when I use Konqueror.  I am still unable to telnet
www.google.com 80  get /.
 I've seen your ping results. Better than
 my probes.
 To debug this issue, power down all devi-
 ces. Computers, router, modem. Power up
 modem, then router, wait to get ip address,
 then boot boxes. Check router configuration.
 Try with linux only. Change cable for debian
 box. Check routing table on debian.

None of this helped.  Newbie here.  How do I check the routing table?

 For next mail, send details on router type,
 model. Dhcp, static addresses. Any rules
 on this router? Arp and route data. Default
 route. Traceroute to somewhere. Post to the
 list some info.

Gigafast Ethernet router,  Model: ee400-r.  I'm not sure, but I don't
think I have static addresses.  Again, Newbie here.  No clue on rules,
Arp, rout data, default rout, traceroute.  I'm gonna google for this
stuff, but any help is appreciated.

 To my surprise, when the problem is solved,
 the solution is rarely posted to the list.
 This way would be less questions of the same
 type. Archives could sufice.


  Zoran



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Re: cable modem connection slower than dial up

2006-11-06 Thread Russell L. Harris
If there is any question concerning the router, and if you have a spare 
machine with a pair of ethernet cards, download an ISO image of 
SmoothWall Express 2.0 (www.smoothwall.org), burn a CD, install 
SmoothWall on the spare machine, and see whether the situation improves.


Installation of SmoothWall takes about 20 minutes, and ample help 
screens are provided.  No configuration is required, other than entry of 
data such as IP address of the LAN.  SmoothWall is the only 
firewall/router package which I have found which is simple enough for a 
novice to install and get running. 


RLH


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Re: cable modem connection slower then dial up

2006-11-06 Thread Rodrigo Paes
On 6 Nov 2006 13:59:23 -0800
schmity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok.  It seems that the internet is extremely fast when I use Mozilla
 and extremely slow when I use Konqueror.  I am still unable to telnet
 www.google.com 80  get /.

seems like we are getting somewhere now... if browsing the net with mozilla is 
working fast, than it definitely doesn't look like a network problem... network 
problems have the good symptom of being neutral, if there is a net problem, 
everybody feels it.

about the telnet ... it's just a way for you to get a feel for the network, if 
the response is quick, if it is taking too long to resolve a name, if you 
actually have connectivity to the site, you know ..things like that ;) 

telneting to google on port 80, you are doing just what your browser does, and 
the get / is the keyword to start downloading the web page, but since you 
terminal is not a browser, it gets disconnected right after it.


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet www.google.com 80
Trying 216.239.37.99...
Connected to www.google.com.  here... you are connected
Escape character is '^]'.
get /
Connection closed by foreign host.

HTH

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Re: cable modem connection slower then dial up

2006-11-06 Thread Zoran Kolic
 Ok.  It seems that the internet is extremely fast when I use Mozilla
 and extremely slow when I use Konqueror.  I am still unable to telnet
 www.google.com 80  get /.

What machine exactly you have?
If it is pentium I with 64 mb...
KDE is ready to modern box, just
as xp or vista.
Fire up fvwm2 or evilwm. Use lynx
or firefox from simple window
manager.

 None of this helped.  Newbie here.  How do I check the routing table?

Start with netstat. (Man netstat.)
Then see at see also.

 Gigafast Ethernet router,  Model: ee400-r.  I'm not sure, but I don't
 think I have static addresses.  Again, Newbie here.  No clue on rules,
 Arp, rout data, default rout, traceroute.  I'm gonna google for this
 stuff, but any help is appreciated.

Yes!!!
At last! You got it!
Read first, ask second.


 Zoran






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cable modem connection slower than dial up

2006-11-05 Thread schmity
I have a cable modem connected to a router that connects to a Windows
XP machine and my Debian linux machine.  Internet on the Windows XP
machine is extremely fast and the Debian machine is slower than dial up
(no joke! night and day difference!)  What is wrong with the Debian
machine?


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Re: cable modem connection slower than dial up

2006-11-05 Thread Rodrigo Paes
On 5 Nov 2006 18:28:32 -0800
schmity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a cable modem connected to a router that connects to a Windows
 XP machine and my Debian linux machine.  Internet on the Windows XP
 machine is extremely fast and the Debian machine is slower than dial up
 (no joke! night and day difference!)  What is wrong with the Debian
 machine?
 
 
run some basic tests .

ping www.google.com 
ping www.yahoo.com

nslookup on both.. 
telnet www.google.com 80
  get /

Is the IPv6 module enabled on the linux box ?

let us know how it turns out :)



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Re: cable modem connection slower than dial up

2006-11-05 Thread schmity
Here is what I get when I do the tests.  It takes a long time to ping
google and yahoo.  Telnet didn't work with google or yahoo and it was
extremely slow also.  Don't know about the ipv6 packet or where to
look.  I'll check into it or if you have more info that you could give
me it would be appreciated.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ping linuxbox
PING localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64
time=0.047 ms
64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64
time=0.038 ms
64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=3 ttl=64
time=0.035 ms
64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=4 ttl=64
time=0.036 ms

--- localhost.localdomain ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 2997ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.035/0.039/0.047/0.004 ms


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ping www.google.com
PING www.l.google.com (216.239.37.104) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 216.239.37.104: icmp_seq=1 ttl=241 time=78.5 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.104: icmp_seq=2 ttl=241 time=61.2 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.104: icmp_seq=3 ttl=241 time=66.9 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.104: icmp_seq=4 ttl=241 time=72.6 ms

--- www.l.google.com ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 45575ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 61.215/69.836/78.565/6.460 ms


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ping www.yahoo.com
PING www.yahoo-ht2.akadns.net (209.73.186.238) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from f1.www.vip.re3.yahoo.com (209.73.186.238): icmp_seq=1
ttl=50 time=65.2 ms
64 bytes from f1.www.vip.re3.yahoo.com (209.73.186.238): icmp_seq=2
ttl=51 time=64.3 ms
64 bytes from 209.73.186.238: icmp_seq=3 ttl=50 time=59.2 ms

--- www.yahoo-ht2.akadns.net ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 20498ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 59.263/62.949/65.271/2.651 ms


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet www.google.com 80
Trying 216.239.37.99...
Connected to www.google.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
get /
Connection closed by foreign host.


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet www.yahoo.com 80
Trying 209.73.186.238...
Connected to www.yahoo.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
get /
Connection closed by foreign host.


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Re: cable modem connection slower then dial up

2006-11-05 Thread Zoran Kolic
 I have a cable modem connected to a router that connects to a Windows
 XP machine and my Debian linux machine.  Internet on the Windows XP
 machine is extremely fast and the Debian machine is slower than dial up
 (no joke! night and day difference!)  What is wrong with the Debian
 machine?

I've seen your ping results. Better than
my probes.
To debug this issue, power down all devi-
ces. Computers, router, modem. Power up
modem, then router, wait to get ip address,
then boot boxes. Check router configuration.
Try with linux only. Change cable for debian
box. Check routing table on debian.

For next mail, send details on router type,
model. Dhcp, static addresses. Any rules
on this router? Arp and route data. Default
route. Traceroute to somewhere. Post to the
list some info.

To my surprise, when the problem is solved,
the solution is rarely posted to the list.
This way would be less questions of the same
type. Archives could sufice.


 Zoran



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