Re: device3dfx
On Fri, 04 May 2001, Greg Steele wrote: I was hoping that it would be something simpler than that. You might just try make update-modversions. That (I believe) updates versions.h, and might save you a little headache. If that shortcut doesn't do it, make dep updates versions.h at the end of its run. If all else fails, you may just have to recompile the kernel, I'm afraid:(. Good luck, and have some coffee for me, Steve
Re: device3dfx
On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 06:45:51AM -0700, Steve Gran wrote: You might just try make update-modversions. That (I believe) updates versions.h, and might save you a little headache. If that shortcut doesn't do it, make dep updates versions.h at the end of its run. If all else fails, you may just have to recompile the kernel, I'm afraid:(. If it helps, just last night I got my Voodoo3 3dfx card working with X4 and kernel 2.4.4. Works like a charm, and it wasn't hard to set up. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, TD12, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks, SDE Pegasus ...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort. -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to Unix Nortel Linux User's Group Ottawa: (internal) http://nlug.ca.nortel.com
device3dfx
I am having a difficult time compiling the device3dfx driver. Part of the problem, I'm sure, is my lack of knowledge of how to correctly setup the kernel-header and kernel-source directories under Debian. I am running kernel-2.2.19-ide. I have /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.19 /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19-ide and a link from /usr/src/linux to /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.19 I issue the following commands KSRC=/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19-ide ./buildpkg from /usr/src/modules/device3dfx/debian for one, it cannot find the Makefile since this is in kernel-sources directory The big problem is that I get the following compilation errors make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/modules/device3dfx' gcc -O2 -m486 -fomit-frame-pointer -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19-ide/include -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -c -o 3dfx.o 3dfx_driver.c In file included from /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19-ide/include/linux/smp.h:11, from /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19-ide/include/linux/sched.h:20, from /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19-ide/include/linux/mm.h:4, from 3dfx_driver.c:119: /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19-ide/include/asm/smp.h: In function `hard_smp_processor_id': /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19-ide/include/asm/smp.h:209: `APIC_BASE' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19-ide/include/asm/smp.h:209: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19-ide/include/asm/smp.h:209: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19-ide/include/asm/smp.h:209: `APIC_ID' undeclared (first use in this function) make[1]: *** [3dfx.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/device3dfx' make: *** [build-stamp] Error 2 Can you tell me what I am doing incorrectly. I have tried compile with setting KSRC=/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.19. This dies even quicker because in cannot find version.h Thanks. P.S. /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19/include/asm is linked to /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19/asm-i386
Re: device3dfx
I'm sure this is not the fix you are looking for, but I used to have the same problem with 2.2.18. After I built the 2.4.3 kernel, however, the module compiled beautifully. I guess you'd have to make bzImage, and tehn make modules, and try to build the device3dfx afterwards. Andrei -- First there was Explorer... Then came Expedition. This summer Coming to a street near you.. Ford Exterminator. -- Andrei Ivanov http://arshes.dyndns.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12402354 --
Re: device3dfx
I was hoping that it would be something simpler than that. Thanks. On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 12:42:22AM -0500, Andrei Ivanov wrote: I'm sure this is not the fix you are looking for, but I used to have the same problem with 2.2.18. After I built the 2.4.3 kernel, however, the module compiled beautifully. I guess you'd have to make bzImage, and tehn make modules, and try to build the device3dfx afterwards. Andrei -- First there was Explorer... Then came Expedition. This summer Coming to a street near you.. Ford Exterminator. -- Andrei Ivanov http://arshes.dyndns.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12402354 -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: device3dfx
On Saturday 05 May 2001 05:58, Greg Steele wrote: I am having a difficult time compiling the device3dfx driver. Part of the problem, I'm sure, is my lack of knowledge of how to correctly setup the kernel-header and kernel-source directories under Debian. I am running kernel-2.2.19-ide. I have /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.19 /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19-ide and a link from /usr/src/linux to /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.19 I'm not an expert, but I think if you have the kernel sources, you don't need the kernel-headers. The headers are included in the source. I don't know if that's written somewhere. At least you didn't find it. People should be able to use debian even if they don't know what headers and sources are, no?
Re: device3dfx
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 10:46:50PM -0700, Greg Steele wrote: On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 12:42:22AM -0500, Andrei Ivanov wrote: I'm sure this is not the fix you are looking for, but I used to have the same problem with 2.2.18. After I built the 2.4.3 kernel, however, the module compiled beautifully. I guess you'd have to make bzImage, and tehn make modules, and try to build the device3dfx afterwards. I was hoping that it would be something simpler than that. It's not _that_ hard to build a kernel, and when you have funky hardware requirements like tdfx or i810, the cost/benefit ratio of kernel 2.4.3 is quite attractive. I was unable to get agppart.o working with 2.2.x kernels but with 2.4.3 it was trivial. Go for it! Build a kernel ... there's a description of how to build one the debian way every week or so on this list. Check the archives, or install kernel-package and rtfm. Cheers, -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Micromuse Ltd. | than a perfect plan tomorrow. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Patton pgpiS3F5JWbWc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: device3dfx-source ?
You might want to rethink your purchase. 3dfx is going out of business early in the new year. They have sold their intellectual property to nvidea. dar On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Joerg Huber wrote: Hi, I would like to buy a Voodoo 3000 graphics card and found the debian-paket mentioned in the subject. But I could not figure out for what kind of card the module will work. Does anyone use this kernel-module ? Thanks, Joerg
Re: device3dfx-source ?
David A. Rogers wrote: You might want to rethink your purchase. 3dfx is going out of business early in the new year. They have sold their intellectual property to nvidea. In business or not, 3Dfx hardware is arguably still the best-supported and most-fully-functional fast 3D using Free software. Regardless of whether or not there will be new products from nVidia based on 3Dfx designs (I'm sure there won't be), GLide is still 100% free, and the drivers can still be tweaked and tuned to be faster than they currently are. But I'm not bitter...;) -- -=|JP|=-Why, oh, why didn't I take the blue pill? Jon Pennington| Atipa Linux Solutions -o) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.atipa.com/\\ Kansas City, MO, USA | 816-595-3000 x1550 _\_V 6D04 39E0 CAE9 9ADA 2CA3 2EBE 898A 6C37 CA1E A29C
Re: device3dfx-source ?
Jon, You could be right. I don't do 3d on Linux yet and don't have a 3Dfx board. But, personally, I'd be a bit leery of buying hardware that I _knew_ was going to be orphaned soon. dar On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Jon Pennington wrote: David A. Rogers wrote: You might want to rethink your purchase. 3dfx is going out of business early in the new year. They have sold their intellectual property to nvidea. In business or not, 3Dfx hardware is arguably still the best-supported and most-fully-functional fast 3D using Free software. Regardless of whether or not there will be new products from nVidia based on 3Dfx designs (I'm sure there won't be), GLide is still 100% free, and the drivers can still be tweaked and tuned to be faster than they currently are. But I'm not bitter...;)
device3dfx-source ?
Hi, I would like to buy a Voodoo 3000 graphics card and found the debian-paket mentioned in the subject. But I could not figure out for what kind of card the module will work. Does anyone use this kernel-module ? Thanks, Joerg
Re: device3dfx-source ?
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 07:02:09PM +0100, Joerg Huber wrote: I would like to buy a Voodoo 3000 graphics card and found the debian-paket mentioned in the subject. But I could not figure out for what kind of card the module will work. Does anyone use this kernel-module ? I know for sure that it works with Voodoo 3 Phil
Re: device3dfx-source ?
Philipp Schulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PS On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 07:02:09PM +0100, Joerg Huber wrote: JH I would like to buy a Voodoo 3000 graphics card and found the JH debian-paket mentioned in the subject. But I could not figure out JH for what kind of card the module will work. Does anyone use this JH kernel-module ? PS PS I know for sure that it works with Voodoo 3 I can confirm that. If you're running unstable, though, it's unnecessary; the combination of XFree86 4.0 and the tdfx driver from the 2.2.18/2.4.0preX kernels works very well (IMHO, better than in XFree86 3.3.x). I have a Voodoo3 2000 and I'm pretty happy with it. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mit.edu/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell
Re: device3dfx-source ?
Joerg Huber wrote: Hi, I would like to buy a Voodoo 3000 graphics card and found the debian-paket mentioned in the subject. But I could not figure out for what kind of card the module will work. Does anyone use this kernel-module ? Thanks, Joerg Not since XFree86-4 was committed to Woody and DRI is a part of Linux-2.2.18. My Banshee and my V3-3000 are humming along quite nicely running OpenGL screensavers (apt-get install xscreensaver-gl) almost faster than I can see what's going on, not to mention Heavy Gear II ;). IF you are running Potato and IF you are using XFree86-3, dev3dfx is a bear to deal with. I'd recommend at least updating the kernel on your Potato box to 2.2.18 and upgrading X (via compiling it yourself or using the unsupported debs), it's much less of a headache in the long run, and you'll probably be quite a bit happier with it. -- -=|JP|=-Why, oh, why didn't I take the blue pill? Jon Pennington| Atipa Linux Solutions -o) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.atipa.com/\\ Kansas City, MO, USA | 816-595-3000 x1550 _\_V 6D04 39E0 CAE9 9ADA 2CA3 2EBE 898A 6C37 CA1E A29C
Re: device3dfx-source ?
note that to get DRI working you need very recent kernel, either one of the pre- 2.4 version or 2.2.18 (is it out yet?) erik Jon Pennington wrote: Joerg Huber wrote: Hi, I would like to buy a Voodoo 3000 graphics card and found the debian-paket mentioned in the subject. But I could not figure out for what kind of card the module will work. Does anyone use this kernel-module ? Thanks, Joerg Not since XFree86-4 was committed to Woody and DRI is a part of Linux-2.2.18. My Banshee and my V3-3000 are humming along quite nicely running OpenGL screensavers (apt-get install xscreensaver-gl) almost faster than I can see what's going on, not to mention Heavy Gear II ;). IF you are running Potato and IF you are using XFree86-3, dev3dfx is a bear to deal with. I'd recommend at least updating the kernel on your Potato box to 2.2.18 and upgrading X (via compiling it yourself or using the unsupported debs), it's much less of a headache in the long run, and you'll probably be quite a bit happier with it. -- -=|JP|=-Why, oh, why didn't I take the blue pill? Jon Pennington| Atipa Linux Solutions -o) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.atipa.com/\\ Kansas City, MO, USA | 816-595-3000 x1550 _\_V 6D04 39E0 CAE9 9ADA 2CA3 2EBE 898A 6C37 CA1E A29C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: device3dfx-source ?
Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ES note that to get DRI working you need very recent kernel, either one ES of the pre- 2.4 version or 2.2.18 (is it out yet?) You need 2.2.18. It's out; I don't think there's an official Debian package of it yet in unstable, but getting your own package is as easy as installing the kernel-package (and bin86 if required) package, unpacking the source somewhere, copying in an old .config file, running 'make menuconfig' (or 'make xconfig' if you prefer), and then 'make-kpkg buildpackage' and installing the resulting Debian package. This of course assumes that you're either running unstable or have a rebuilt X 4.0.1 package for stable/testing. But yeah, it works very well for me. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mit.edu/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell
Re: device3dfx-source ?
I'll also add that /dev/3dfx (for me at least) garbles the screen after running any OpenGL or Glide app. It doesn't really crash out on you, you just need to Ctrl-Alt-Numpad - then Ctrl-Alt-Numpad + and you get your screen back. Annoying, but it still works. -Rob On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 01:26:37PM -0600, Jon Pennington wrote: Joerg Huber wrote: Hi, I would like to buy a Voodoo 3000 graphics card and found the debian-paket mentioned in the subject. But I could not figure out for what kind of card the module will work. Does anyone use this kernel-module ? Thanks, Joerg Not since XFree86-4 was committed to Woody and DRI is a part of Linux-2.2.18. My Banshee and my V3-3000 are humming along quite nicely running OpenGL screensavers (apt-get install xscreensaver-gl) almost faster than I can see what's going on, not to mention Heavy Gear II ;). IF you are running Potato and IF you are using XFree86-3, dev3dfx is a bear to deal with. I'd recommend at least updating the kernel on your Potato box to 2.2.18 and upgrading X (via compiling it yourself or using the unsupported debs), it's much less of a headache in the long run, and you'll probably be quite a bit happier with it. -- -=|JP|=-Why, oh, why didn't I take the blue pill? Jon Pennington| Atipa Linux Solutions -o) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.atipa.com/\\ Kansas City, MO, USA | 816-595-3000 x1550 _\_V 6D04 39E0 CAE9 9ADA 2CA3 2EBE 898A 6C37 CA1E A29C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems installing device3dfx
Hello! I am running potato with the original 2.2.17 kernel and I would like to use my Voodoo 3 2000 with Mesa. I installed kernel-source-2.2.17 and of course device3dfx-source. I untarred both in the /usr/src directory and made a symbolic link from /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.17 to /usr/src/linux. After that, doing a 'make-kpkg module_image' complained about a missing linux/moduleversions.h. So I also installed kernel-headers-2.2.17 and moved all files from kernel-headers-2.2.17/include/linux to kernel-source-2.2.17/include/linux. This time, it compiled OK, but 'dpkg -i device3dfx-module-2.2.17_2.3.4-2+Custom.1.00_i386.deb complains aboout unresolved symbols. Trying to do 'modprobe 3dfx' manually returns the following: -SNIP-- /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/3dfx.o: unresolved symbol register_chrdev_Re7d40881 /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/3dfx.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/3dfx.o failed /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/3dfx.o: insmod 3dfx failed -SNIP- I should probably add that I didn't recompile the kernel itself - just the 3dfx module. Is that the problem? Or what else am I doing wrong? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Juergen
Re: device3dfx-module?
Kelly == Kelly Corbin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: dselect gives me the error message device3dfx-module does not appear to be available when getting the voodoo3 stuff. I haven't seen anyone address this problem in deselect specifically in the archives for 2.2 (potato). Does anyone know the workaround for this. I have created and installed the 3dfx module and it is running as a module. Thanks. Did you use kernel-package to make a module package, and install that? This solves the dependancy problem. Kelly Corbin -- -- -- -- -- The dumber people think you are, -- -- the more suprised they will be when you kill them. -- -- -- -- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Marshal Wong (Yes, that is my first name. Not a title.) wodrueckt dich der Schuh? where presses you the shoe 'what's your problem?'
