Re: icewm anomaly after bullseye upgrade
On Sat, Sep 04, 2021 at 01:58:41AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > On Fri, 3 Sep 2021, Michael Lange wrote: > > > according to https://ice-wm.org/man/icewm-preferences the syntax for > > using a bold font should rather be: > > > ActiveTaskBarFontNameXft=”sans-serif:size=12:bold” . > > Ah. RTFM still applies. > > That did the trick for me. Thank You Sir! > > > I have some doubt though, that this has anything to do with your > > original problem. > > That is correct. I did resolve my problem with 'WorkspaceNames=' not > governing the number of workspaces shown on the Taskbar, but my error was so > stupid I am ashamed to reveal it here in front of everyone, and probably > won't even tell anyone off-list. > > As a rule I am not above posting really dumb questions (no wisecracks, thank > you), but that one was beyond anything even I could suffer. No dumb questions ever. After 23 years around Debian, I still find the best and quickest way to find an error is to stare at it for three days, ask someone else to look at it - and they find it in 30 seconds. Smart wisecrack answers / demeaning someone else's efforts (always provided they show they've done something) - that's another thing. It's very worthwhile to think we have all sorts of people with all sorts of experience and expertise lurking here and that somebody will know the answer / direct you to resources to find it / have an "Aha!" moment and sort out their own puzzle when they see you raise it. All best, as ever, Andy Cater
Re: icewm anomaly after bullseye upgrade
On Fri, 3 Sep 2021, Michael Lange wrote: according to https://ice-wm.org/man/icewm-preferences the syntax for using a bold font should rather be: ActiveTaskBarFontNameXft=”sans-serif:size=12:bold” . Ah. RTFM still applies. That did the trick for me. Thank You Sir! I have some doubt though, that this has anything to do with your original problem. That is correct. I did resolve my problem with 'WorkspaceNames=' not governing the number of workspaces shown on the Taskbar, but my error was so stupid I am ashamed to reveal it here in front of everyone, and probably won't even tell anyone off-list. As a rule I am not above posting really dumb questions (no wisecracks, thank you), but that one was beyond anything even I could suffer. Thanks to all the assembled faithful as per usual. -- What is the significance of the fact that "abstractions" and "generalizations" and the very concepts of "time" and "space" occur only in conjunction with a human nervous system? Percy W. Bridgman (1955)
Re: icewm anomaly after bullseye upgrade
Hi, On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 16:02:08 -0400 (EDT) Bob Bernstein wrote: > Thanks to those who chimed in! > > My focus today is on those lines in ~/.icewm/preferences that > specify fonts for the task bar. I have in mind such statements > as: > > NormalTaskBarFontNameXft="DejaVuSans-Bold,sans-serif:size=18" > ActiveTaskBarFontNameXft="DejaVuSans-Bold,sans-serif:size=18" > > I suspect the syntax of my lines does not represent actual fonts > that are available on this machine. > > Can anyone provide a critique of that syntax? according to https://ice-wm.org/man/icewm-preferences the syntax for using a bold font should rather be: ActiveTaskBarFontNameXft=”sans-serif:size=12:bold” . That comma-separated font list thing does not seem to work (at least not with the IceWM version from Buster); since I suspect that "DejaVuSans" and "sans-serif" might be equivalent here, I tried with a different font here: NormalTaskBarFontNameXft="Akkadian,sans-serif:size=11:bold" This gives me the Akkadian font with normal (or medium) weight. Changing the first font name to one that does not exist, like NormalTaskBarFontNameXft="Akadian,sans-serif:size=11:bold" gives me a normal weight default/fallback font. Likewise NormalTaskBarFontNameXft="Akkadian:size=11:bold,sans-serif:size=11:bold" resp. NormalTaskBarFontNameXft="Akadian:size=11:bold,sans-serif:size=11:bold" gives me a bold Akkadian font resp. that same normal weight default fallback font as above. I have some doubt though, that this has anything to do with your original problem. Best regards Michael .-.. .. ...- . .-.. --- -. --. .- -. -.. .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-. It is necessary to have purpose. -- Alice #1, "I, Mudd", stardate 4513.3
Re: icewm anomaly after bullseye upgrade
Thanks to those who chimed in! My focus today is on those lines in ~/.icewm/preferences that specify fonts for the task bar. I have in mind such statements as: NormalTaskBarFontNameXft="DejaVuSans-Bold,sans-serif:size=18" ActiveTaskBarFontNameXft="DejaVuSans-Bold,sans-serif:size=18" I suspect the syntax of my lines does not represent actual fonts that are available on this machine. Can anyone provide a critique of that syntax? -- ...a society must incorporate the rationalizing power symbolized by scientific knowledge, for otherwise it will be a fatally split society- split between a powerful elite and the disenfranchised mass. To this we add now: an irrational elite is the most dangerous of all. Holton, Gerald. 1985. On the Integrity of Science: The Issues Since Bronowski. Leonardo 18 (4), Special Issue: Jacob Bronowski: A Retrospective (1985): 229-232.
Re: icewm anomaly after bullseye upgrade
On 9/1/21 12:17 PM, Bob Bernstein wrote: Here's what I have onboard now after upgrading to bullseye: cat /etc/os-release PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)" NAME="Debian GNU/Linux" VERSION_ID="11" VERSION="11 (bullseye)" VERSION_CODENAME=bullseye ID=debian I have never had a situation wherein the number of workspaces in the taskbar was _not_ determined by the contents of the line: WorkspaceNames= " Web ", " Term ", " VNC ", etc. in ~/.icewm/preferences. The pkgs now installed are: $ dpkg -l |grep icewm ii icewm 2.1.2-1 amd64 wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager ii icewm-common 2.1.2-1 amd64 wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager In order to access workspaces not displayed in the taskbar I must have recourse to the Window List Menu button on the extreme left side ot the task bar. Thoughts? Search "preferences" for "TaskBarShowWorkspaces" I haven't been able to upgrade Icewm from Stretch, because the fonts in Buster were so bad. So I've waiting for Bullseye with the hope that the fonts will look better. Icewm was popular in the late nineties and I haven't seen anything that makes me want to change.
Re: icewm anomaly after bullseye upgrade
Hi, On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 15:17:11 -0400 (EDT) Bob Bernstein wrote: (...) > I have never had a situation wherein the number of workspaces in > the taskbar was _not_ determined by the contents of the line: > > WorkspaceNames= " Web ", " Term ", " VNC ", etc. seems to work as usual here. > > in ~/.icewm/preferences. The pkgs now installed are: > > $ dpkg -l |grep icewm > ii icewm2.1.2-1 > amd64wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager > ii icewm-common 2.1.2-1 > amd64wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager > > In order to access workspaces not displayed in the taskbar I > must have recourse to the Window List Menu button on the extreme > left side ot the task bar. > > Thoughts? What exactly does the line beginning with WorkspaceNames= look like? What exactly is displayed resp. not displayed in the taskbar? What is the output of `cat ~/.icewm/preferences | grep -i workspace` ? Best regards Michael .-.. .. ...- . .-.. --- -. --. .- -. -.. .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-. Genius doesn't work on an assembly line basis. You can't simply say, "Today I will be brilliant." -- Kirk, "The Ultimate Computer", stardate 4731.3
icewm anomaly after bullseye upgrade
Here's what I have onboard now after upgrading to bullseye: cat /etc/os-release PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)" NAME="Debian GNU/Linux" VERSION_ID="11" VERSION="11 (bullseye)" VERSION_CODENAME=bullseye ID=debian I have never had a situation wherein the number of workspaces in the taskbar was _not_ determined by the contents of the line: WorkspaceNames= " Web ", " Term ", " VNC ", etc. in ~/.icewm/preferences. The pkgs now installed are: $ dpkg -l |grep icewm ii icewm2.1.2-1 amd64wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager ii icewm-common 2.1.2-1 amd64wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager In order to access workspaces not displayed in the taskbar I must have recourse to the Window List Menu button on the extreme left side ot the task bar. Thoughts? -- ...a society must incorporate the rationalizing power symbolized by scientific knowledge, for otherwise it will be a fatally split society- split between a powerful elite and the disenfranchised mass. To this we add now: an irrational elite is the most dangerous of all. Holton, Gerald. 1985. On the Integrity of Science: The Issues Since Bronowski. Leonardo 18 (4), Special Issue: Jacob Bronowski: A Retrospective (1985): 229-232.
