Re: kde5 - the problems do not stop

2015-08-27 Thread David Wright
Quoting Ric Moore (wayward4...@gmail.com): On 08/26/2015 08:03 PM, David Wright wrote: Quoting Ric Moore (wayward4...@gmail.com): not those of us who ~willingly~ subject ourselves to breakages. ↑↑↑ \ \ \ \ \ \

Re: kde5 - the problems do not stop

2015-08-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 27 August 2015 09:52:58 Hans wrote: So, please apologize if I seem to annoying. Hans - your Debianese is spot on so far as I can see. Where problems may arise is, I suspect, when people misunderstand what you are saying. I had to do a double take at this. ;-) Lisi

Re: kde5 - the problems do not stop

2015-08-27 Thread Hans
Am Donnerstag, 27. August 2015, 01:39:32 schrieb Ric Moore: On 08/26/2015 08:03 PM, David Wright wrote: Quoting Ric Moore (wayward4...@gmail.com): not those of us who ~willingly~ subject ourselves to breakages. I want those people to be here for at least two reasons: Define those

Re: kde5 - the problems do not stop

2015-08-26 Thread Ric Moore
On 08/26/2015 11:26 AM, Hans wrote: If you think the way it is testing or unstable, who cares..., then the result will be a bad stable. Is it that what you want? Don't think so. What you do is google your butt off, first, to resolve the problem on your own if you walk on the wild side.

Re: kde5 - the problems do not stop

2015-08-26 Thread Ric Moore
On 08/25/2015 06:33 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: Not to seem rude or demeaning in any way, but that is pretty much an axiom. Debian has made public notice in their documentation many times that no one should expect reliable behaviour from any version other than Debian Stable. Unfortunately, in

Re: kde5 - the problems do not stop

2015-08-26 Thread David Wright
Quoting Ric Moore (wayward4...@gmail.com): On 08/26/2015 11:26 AM, Hans wrote: If you think the way it is testing or unstable, who cares..., then the result will be a bad stable. Is it that what you want? Don't think so. What you do is google your butt off, first, to resolve the problem

Re: kde5 - the problems do not stop

2015-08-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 01:23:25PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: On 08/26/2015 11:26 AM, Hans wrote: If you think the way it is testing or unstable, who cares..., then the result will be a bad stable. Is it that what you want? Don't think so. What you do is google your butt off, first, to

Re: kde5 - the problems do not stop

2015-08-26 Thread Ric Moore
On 08/26/2015 08:03 PM, David Wright wrote: Quoting Ric Moore (wayward4...@gmail.com): not those of us who ~willingly~ subject ourselves to breakages. I want those people to be here for at least two reasons: Define those people. Testing and Un-stable isn't for Joe or Jane Lunchbucket and

Re: kde5 - the problems do not stop

2015-08-26 Thread Hans
That is the best advice the OP could get. If testing breaks, you get to keep both pieces if you cannot fix it or live with it. Ric Yes, of course I know this. This is not a sharp productive system, but a system, where I dare to check new things. One of it is KDE, and I think it important, to

Re: kde5 - the problems do not stop

2015-08-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 05:20:27PM -0500, T. J. Duchene wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 11:59:13 +0200 Hans hans.ullr...@loop.de wrote: Yes, I admit, we are at the moment in an unlucky situation, and I admit, I have no solution for it. For the users I only can give the advice: Do not

Re: kde5 - the problems do not stop

2015-08-23 Thread T. J. Duchene
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 11:59:13 +0200 Hans hans.ullr...@loop.de wrote: Yes, I admit, we are at the moment in an unlucky situation, and I admit, I have no solution for it. For the users I only can give the advice: Do not update your running system, when you are running debian/stable. If you

kde5 - the problems do not stop

2015-08-20 Thread Hans
Hello list, upgrading in debian/testing let me install kde5. Although I got some problems at the beginning, I managed to get it working. However, some minor problems still occured, for example sddm will not start and the process konsole will not end, although I closed konsole. But these are

Re: kde5 - the problems do not stop

2015-08-20 Thread Gabriel Corona
But now, after my last update, KDE will not start. The splashscreen of KDE5 is starting, its progress bar fullfilles to the end and then it hangs. I had the same issue and fixed it by reverting libkdecorations2-5 and libkdecorations2private5 to 5.3.2-1 as indicated in [1]. [1]

Re: kde5 - the problems do not stop

2015-08-20 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 12:19:28 +0200 Hans hans.ullr...@loop.de wrote: Hello Hans, Something with archive.debian.org or similar snapshot.debian.org, IIRC. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Bet you thought you had it

Re: kde5 - the problems do not stop

2015-08-20 Thread Hans
Am Donnerstag, 20. August 2015, 12:03:43 schrieb Gabriel Corona: But now, after my last update, KDE will not start. The splashscreen of KDE5 is starting, its progress bar fullfilles to the end and then it hangs. I had the same issue and fixed it by reverting libkdecorations2-5 and

Re: kde5 - the problems do not stop

2015-08-20 Thread Gabriel Corona
I know, there is a repo, that helds all packages removed from the repo, but fogot the URL. Something with archive.debian.org or similar. Or did you get them some elsewhere? I installed them from my cache: cd /var/cache/apt/archives sudo dpkg -i libkdecorations2-5_4%3a5.3.2-1_amd64.deb \