Re: A simple question about the Security Advisories
Saturday 20 September 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Hello, I am new bee to Debian. I notice the Security Advisories on the main page of Debian. Is there an auto-update tool in the debian system which can auto update software and auto fix some bugs make me needn't to take care about the Security Advisories? Thanks. Take a look at unattended-upgrade Regards, Thomas Preud'homme -- Why Debian : http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: A simple question about the Security Advisories
[Please don't post in HTML] On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 11:31:10AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am new bee to Debian. Welcome. I notice the Security Advisories on the main page of Debian. Is there an auto-update tool in the debian system which can auto update software and auto fix some I contest that an unattended auto-update is a security risk in itself, in fact take a look at the Description of cron-apt: Observe that this tool may be a security risk, so you should not set it to do more than necessary. Automatic upgrade of all packages is NOT recommended unless you are in full control of the package repository. bugs make me needn't to take care about the Security Advisories? Have you this line deb http://security.debian.org lenny/updates main contrib in your /etc/apt/sources.lst file? -- Chris. == I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Sir Stephen Henry Roberts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A simple question about the Security Advisories
Hello, I am new bee to Debian. I notice the Security Advisories on the main page of Debian. Is there an auto-update tool in the debian system which can auto update software and auto fix some bugs make me needn't to take care about the Security Advisories? Thanks.
Re: A simple question about the Security Advisories
Generally, when you see an advisory, run (as root, or using sudo if you have it installed): apt-get update apt-get upgrade and that should update you. You should generally pay attention to Security Advisories, because as you learn more about the system, you'll understand them more : ) and more importantly, you may want to respond by changing to a different package or something. Responding to the update is easy enough, and don't you feel better knowing when new vulnerabilities are fixed? On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am new bee to Debian. I notice the Security Advisories on the main page of Debian. Is there an auto-update tool in the debian system which can auto update software and auto fix some bugs make me needn't to take care about the Security Advisories? Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: It's a simple question....
On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:49:48 -0800 Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Justin Hartman wrote: So down to the simple question. Is this really normal on a PC-based Laptop to experience such pitfalls in installing Debian? With the IBM/Lenovo Thinkpads, not usually. With Dell, HP, Acer, etc, yes, the experience is typical. This is a result of most laptop vendors not documenting their hardware properly, or inability or unwillingness to share the documentation with the people who bought the product or Linux developers. Voting with your money is important when it comes to compatability on Linux. I recently installed Sid on an Acer Aspire AS3690 (lowest end of the Aspire line), and I was actually impressed with how smoothly the whole thing went. Only one real problem (buggy hardware / software involving the rtc - this is aparently a common problem [0]). I don't have suspend / hibernate working properly yet, but I haven't tryed very hard. Even the wireless [Broadcom BCM4318 AirForce One] worked almost out of the box, one just needs non-free firmware, which can be installed automatically with the 'bcm43-fwcutter' package. Incidentally, the 60GB HDD came with 3 partitions: ~27GB with Windows (several GB occupied by the OS, the remainder empty (virtually *no* silly trial apps or other worthless stuff - wow!), ~27GB empty, and ~5 for some sort of system restore. I just left the windows and restore partitions alone and deleted the empty one, replacing it with a half dozen more for linux. Very convenient. Celejar [0] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=277298 and https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/43661 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: It's a simple question....
Justin Hartman wrote: So down to the simple question. Is this really normal on a PC-based Laptop to experience such pitfalls in installing Debian? With the IBM/Lenovo Thinkpads, not usually. With Dell, HP, Acer, etc, yes, the experience is typical. This is a result of most laptop vendors not documenting their hardware properly, or inability or unwillingness to share the documentation with the people who bought the product or Linux developers. Voting with your money is important when it comes to compatability on Linux. To me I can't really fathom that so much can go wrong. The iBook worked perfectly from the get go yet this laptop seems riddled with problems. The iBook is a relatively standardized platform compared to the laptop Lintel world, unfortunately. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: It's a simple question....
Paul Johnson wrote: Voting with your money is important when it comes to compatability on Linux. I'd be all for getting something other than a Dell, but they were the only ones I could find that offered a laptop with a screen resolution meeting or exceeding 1600x1200. Does anybody know of any other, more Linux-compatible, laptops with that kind of resolution? - Joe smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: It's a simple question....
Steve Lamb wrote: Justin Hartman wrote: Wouldn't the Debian Live CD work as a better option? Not really. Since Debian has so many different release architectures they really don't push automatic detection and configuration as far as the splinter distributions which focus mostly on the x86 architecture. A good example is Wireless USBNICs. I had one that Debian could not detect and utilize. I tried KUbuntu and it detected it, configured it and had it running with barely a hiccup. I then knew it was possible for Debian to do it, I would just have to do the legwork that KUbuntu's stuff did for me. I believe that Debian Live uses some live CD software developed from some Ubuntu packages, but with hardware discovery the same as Debian Installer (http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/). So Debian Live might indeed be what you want to tell you whether Debian is going to run on your system automagically. -- Chris. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: It's a simple question....
On 17 Feb 2007, Steve Lamb wrote: Justin Hartman wrote: So down to the simple question. Is this really normal on a PC-based Laptop to experience such pitfalls in installing Debian? Yes. Laptops are notorious for having horrible compatibility with anything other than the OS they are shipped with. This is because to cram so much into so little space many Laptop manufacturers put in tons of proprietary hardware then only code drivers for whatever OS they intend to ship with it. Worse still they only ship the drivers, never really releasing them. -- Steve Lamb Not really what you want to hear, but try Ubuntu live; if it works, at least you'll know that it's *possible* to get things running in Linux. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Linux Gnu-Debian http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, on-line books and sceptical articles) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: It's a simple question....
On 2/18/07, Anthony Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not really what you want to hear, but try Ubuntu live; if it works, at least you'll know that it's *possible* to get things running in Linux. Wouldn't the Debian Live CD work as a better option? Regards Justin Hartman PGP Key ID: 102CC123 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: It's a simple question....
Justin Hartman wrote: Wouldn't the Debian Live CD work as a better option? Not really. Since Debian has so many different release architectures they really don't push automatic detection and configuration as far as the splinter distributions which focus mostly on the x86 architecture. A good example is Wireless USBNICs. I had one that Debian could not detect and utilize. I tried KUbuntu and it detected it, configured it and had it running with barely a hiccup. I then knew it was possible for Debian to do it, I would just have to do the legwork that KUbuntu's stuff did for me. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | And dream I do... ---+- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: It's a simple question....
On 18 Feb 2007, Steve Lamb wrote: Justin Hartman wrote: Wouldn't the Debian Live CD work as a better option? Not really. Since Debian has so many different release architectures they really don't push automatic detection and configuration as far as the splinter distributions which focus mostly on the x86 architecture. A good example is Wireless USBNICs. I had one that Debian could not detect and utilize. I tried KUbuntu and it detected it, configured it and had it running with barely a hiccup. I then knew it was possible for Debian to do it, I would just have to do the legwork that KUbuntu's stuff did for me. Yes, this was why I suggested it. When I got a new Thinkpad Z61M recently I couldn't get either sound or wirless to work. After much help both here and elsewhere I was still no further on, but Ubuntu recognized both immediately. Subsequently the CD drive on the machine stopped working but that's another story ... Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Linux Gnu-Debian http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, on-line books and sceptical articles) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: It's a simple question....
Justin Hartman wrote: So down to the simple question. Is this really normal on a PC-based Laptop to experience such pitfalls in installing Debian? Yes. Laptops are notorious for having horrible compatibility with anything other than the OS they are shipped with. This is because to cram so much into so little space many Laptop manufacturers put in tons of proprietary hardware then only code drivers for whatever OS they intend to ship with it. Worse still they only ship the drivers, never really releasing them. -- Steve Lamb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It's a simple question....
In the past few months that I've used Debian I've now successfully managed to install unstable on an Apple iBook G4, Apple mac mini (both PowerPC) and Intel Celeron PC. I've also installed testing on a server that I run which is powered by Intel P4 chips. That's now 4 machines without many problems (if any) yet when I installed testing (and upgraded to unstable) on an HP Compaq nx6110 Intel Celeron M laptop I've been left with endless problems. I know that I've read that laptops in general do give quite a few problems but in my experience the problems on the HP have been insane. Some of the issues I've had include:- * Getting Etch operational from a netinstall cd * Getting my Belkin PCI card operational (still not 100% correct and only connecting at 11mbps instead of the 54 it's capable of) * Getting the sound card to work (only started working when I installed KDE - go figure) * Preventing Gnome from crashing almost immediately on startup (only an upgrade to unstable fixed this) * Various network related issues (lots of trial and error) * Not able to print to a SMB network printer (tried everything yet still can't get there) So down to the simple question. Is this really normal on a PC-based Laptop to experience such pitfalls in installing Debian? To me I can't really fathom that so much can go wrong. The iBook worked perfectly from the get go yet this laptop seems riddled with problems. PS. I'm not a member of the debian-laptop list yet I thought it might prove relevant to members of the laptop mailing list. -- Regards Justin Hartman PGP Key ID: 102CC123 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security
On 1/28/07, Hodgins Family [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Firewalling routers are $50 and do a reasonably good job. Any recommendations? What are you using? I believe that just about any home wireless AP / switch / router these days does stateful packet inspection and NAT, making it a decent HW firewall. I've been happily using an old Netgear MR814 (only 802.11b, not g, and only WEP, no WPA)for years. I just bought a new Trendware TEW-432BRP [0] for $40 with $20 rebate (free shipping) from Newegg.com (g, WPA, WPA2), but I haven't tested it yet. Celejar [0] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833156038 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security
Firewalling routers are $50 and do a reasonably good job. Any recommendations? What are you using? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/07 09:08, Hodgins Family wrote: Firewalling routers are $50 and do a reasonably good job. Any recommendations? What are you using? I use a Netgear RP614v2, but don't like it. The Linux geek fave is the Linksys WRT54GL, since it runs Linux and can be upgraded with 3rd-party binaries. It's a wireless access port, but also has 4 RJ45 jacks and has a firewall. US$54 at Newegg. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFvMndS9HxQb37XmcRAjQHAJwK1m37NvOsQDPhsTpJZ+cEshHYIwCfbgxE F0pjiPCTAX5oHe3B6E3jqxI= =t/L8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security
I use a Netgear RP614v2, but don't like it. The Linux geek fave is the Linksys WRT54GL, since it runs Linux and can be upgraded with 3rd-party binaries. It's a wireless access port, but also has 4 RJ45 jacks and has a firewall. US$54 at Newegg. Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security
Hodgins Family [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Linux geek fave is the Linksys WRT54GL, since it runs Linux and can be upgraded with 3rd-party binaries. It's a wireless access port, but also has 4 RJ45 jacks and has a firewall. US$54 at Newegg. Thanks! Make sure you buy v4 or below. v5 can't be upgraded (and doesn't run Linux) -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/07 13:32, John L Fjellstad wrote: Hodgins Family [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Linux geek fave is the Linksys WRT54GL, since it runs Linux and can be upgraded with 3rd-party binaries. It's a wireless access port, but also has 4 RJ45 jacks and has a firewall. US$54 at Newegg. Thanks! Make sure you buy v4 or below. v5 can't be upgraded (and doesn't run Linux) I thought that was the difference between the WRT54GL and WRT54G. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFvQh4S9HxQb37XmcRAoUrAJ91FwTnB1GIAEMb17HJ1GPH4pYB2wCg7u1s /DEwa/eiMtkNA20e9cqjOoU= =Fvoi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 08:08:55AM -0700, Hodgins Family wrote: Firewalling routers are $50 and do a reasonably good job. Any recommendations? What are you using? Get any old (now 486 or newer) box and install basic debian on it. Add shorewall and you have a totally configurable firewall. Check out FAI and you have an easily restored firewall if something does break. This is often a no-cost option. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 01/28/07 13:32, John L Fjellstad wrote: Make sure you buy v4 or below. v5 can't be upgraded (and doesn't run Linux) I thought that was the difference between the WRT54GL and WRT54G. You're right. The WRT54GL is the linux version. From what I can gather from the Linksys pages, I think the new version is the WRT54GS. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security
On 1/28/07, John L Fjellstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Make sure you buy v4 or below. v5 can't be upgraded (and doesn't run Linux) The WRT54G v4 was re-released as the WRT54GL - the L for Linux. Zach -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 01:28 +, s. keeling wrote: And I would imagine any of them could be used if you chose to avoid those three. Try out some of the other wm's. You might like them. Gnome, KDE, and XFCE are not the only choices available. There was some discussion about putting a whole lot of other wm's on the XFCE cd, as they are now scattered over the cd set. Not sure if it has happened yet. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 760BDD22 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/27/07 01:44, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 01:24:33 -0600 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shouldn't the setup of a firewall be part of the installation routine? Perhaps prior to running tasksel, some script could query the user about using a firewall and/or help him/her set an appropriate one up? Probably so. ~$ apt-cache search firewall | wc -l 130 From those I counted at least 10 to be firewalls. So which one will be the default one? One that you can run from the console. (Pardon my ambiguity; I live behind a h/w firewall.) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFu21uS9HxQb37XmcRAtU/AKCZBLX3EWW978WDfyeEhnL9pLIcdwCfZmT+ 6uI29hlslwnTsOWYEllUXw0= =AnXQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installsand security
For console, you can use lokkit: lokkit - basic interactive firewall configuration tool (console interface) But I don't think it gives you as much control as iptables. Angelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installsand security
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 17:21:36 -0500 Angelo Bertolli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For console, you can use lokkit: lokkit - basic interactive firewall configuration tool (console interface) But I don't think it gives you as much control as iptables. My point was that it would be very difficult to reach consensus over which firewall to use as default. It might be even tougher than the usual GNOME/KDE, vim/emacs, apt-get/aptitude, ... because there are so many choices and it would be very difficult to create a default set of rules that would work for many people. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Re: A simple question
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 01/26/07 19:28, s. keeling wrote: Gnome, KDE, and XFCE are not the only choices available. Yes they are. Unless you want to be investigated by Them. The NSA the RCMP are suspicious of anyone running desktop Linux (too many freethinkers), and are *very* suspicious of people running software with names like Feh. You're the one living in police state. I, on the other hand, live in the socialist paradise. :-P btw, s/RCMP/CSIS/. ratpoison, fluxbox ion3. Whew! Good thing I went with Blackbox. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. Spammers! http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling/emails.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question
Sven Arvidsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 01:28 +, s. keeling wrote: And I would imagine any of them could be used if you chose to avoid those three. Try out some of the other wm's. You might like them. Gnome, KDE, and XFCE are not the only choices available. There was some discussion about putting a whole lot of other wm's on the XFCE cd, as they are now scattered over the cd set. Not sure if it has Not necessary with any sort of net connection. It doesn't take long to apt-get/aptitude/synaptic install a wm. fvwm is the biggest one I have here, and it's only 3 Mb. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. Spammers! http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling/emails.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installsand security
to create a default set of rules that would work for many people. The default set of rules only needs to get people through the installation safely. After that, they can alter them with their favourite program, as needed. The rules here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ap-fw-security-update.en.html entered at the console (and before running tasksel) gives access to security updates and nothing else. It needs DNS and only works with HTTP URLs. Maybe a user could be told (during installation) to enter this (or something like it) before selecting packages. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Re: A simple question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/27/07 17:52, s. keeling wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 01/26/07 19:28, s. keeling wrote: Gnome, KDE, and XFCE are not the only choices available. Yes they are. Unless you want to be investigated by Them. The NSA the RCMP are suspicious of anyone running desktop Linux (too many freethinkers), and are *very* suspicious of people running software with names like Feh. You're the one living in police state. I, on the other hand, live in the socialist paradise. :-P btw, s/RCMP/CSIS/. They all fly in black helicopters and take their orders from Boutros-Boutros Ghali, anyway, so it really doesn't matter. ratpoison, fluxbox ion3. Whew! Good thing I went with Blackbox. Note that I said /like/ ratpoison, fluxbox ion3. Blackbox is a sufficiently mysterious title that I'm sure your house is bugged, and all your packets sniffed. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFu/2AS9HxQb37XmcRAqWqAKC5E0FFLpQ+oNOTVeSR0UikiuCXNwCfYGRM fyCCpXBK+1AgqJf67sfeBy4= =miRn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/27/07 18:00, s. keeling wrote: Sven Arvidsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 01:28 +, s. keeling wrote: [snip] Not necessary with any sort of net connection. It doesn't take long to apt-get/aptitude/synaptic install a wm. fvwm is the biggest one I have here, and it's only 3 Mb. 3MB??? What a pig!!! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFu/8BS9HxQb37XmcRArAMAKCGf9yfPMvTqxEd9En5v7ujXfy8LQCgr9Ie rdOc1ZnGO26Gu0wyR0AXHLg= =rJOC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 10:01:43PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/26/07 19:03, Hodgins Family wrote: Many people are installing Debian from the internet. Yet, the Securing Debian Manual suggests no contact with the internet until the installation is secure. The manual states that installing the OS off the web is not the best idea (Section 3.3 found here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch3.en.html ) Is the manual WRONG about net installs? Did you *read* the link you posted? 3.3 Do not plug to the Internet until ready The system should not be immediately connected to the Internet during installation. [snip] If you cannot do this, you can set up firewall rules to limit access to the system while doing the update (see Security update protected by a firewall, Appendix F). http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ap-fw-security-update.en.html Are net installs (let's say for a Desktop environment) totally without vulnerability risks? When, during an installation, do/should people think about security/vulnerability issues of the software they are installing? Actually, not much. Firewalling routers are $50 and do a reasonably good job. Doesn't help much if one is accesssing the net via a dial-up modem. Why doesn't the installer: 1. automatically put up a firewall rule that only allows traffic related to the installation procedure. 2. Install a basic firewall like ipmasq to cover someone until they can get something better up and running. ? I'm lucky in that I have an old 486 I used with a modem to also do the firewall. I didn't use my Etch amd64 box on the net directly until Etch got security support. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A simple question
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Hi,
I intend to install etch with xfce and would like to know how many cd-s do I
have to download that include the base system. I read somewhere that the first
cd doesn't include the entire xfce desktop. Do the first and the second cd
include it?
Thanks,
jmak
http://jozmak.googlepages.com
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Re: A simple question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/26/07 18:08, j Mak wrote: I intend to install etch with xfce and would like to know how many cd-s do I have to download that include the base system. I read somewhere that the first cd doesn't include the entire xfce desktop. Do the first and the second cd include it? Even if CD #1 does not have xfce, you can still install from CD #1 and then install xfce from the network. Does the command line scare you? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFupn6S9HxQb37XmcRAvA2AKDWBniihcq5B6sb/99nJjJSpL6jKQCgqhy1 LtGER8eD9Cp1l2S3tJokpDM= =4tOs -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 16:08 -0800, j Mak wrote: I intend to install etch with xfce and would like to know how many cd-s do I have to download that include the base system. I read somewhere that the first cd doesn't include the entire xfce desktop. Do the first and the second cd include it? Hi, Etch actually comes in three flavours for the first cd, GNOME, KDE, or XFce. http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/ -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 760BDD22 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security
Many people are installing Debian from the internet. Yet, the Securing Debian Manual suggests no contact with the internet until the installation is secure. The manual states that installing the OS off the web is not the best idea (Section 3.3 found here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch3.en.html ) Is the manual WRONG about net installs? Are net installs (let's say for a Desktop environment) totally without vulnerability risks? When, during an installation, do/should people think about security/vulnerability issues of the software they are installing? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question
Sven Arvidsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 16:08 -0800, j Mak wrote: I intend to install etch with xfce and would like to know how many cd-= s do I have to download that include the base system. I read somewhere that= the first cd doesn't include the entire xfce desktop. Do the first and th= e second cd include it? Etch actually comes in three flavours for the first cd, GNOME, KDE, or XFce. http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/ And I would imagine any of them could be used if you chose to avoid those three. Try out some of the other wm's. You might like them. Gnome, KDE, and XFCE are not the only choices available. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. Spammers! http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling/emails.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security
Hodgins Family wrote: Are net installs (let's say for a Desktop environment) totally without vulnerability risks? When, during an installation, do/should people think about security/vulnerability issues of the software they are installing? Well, let's see.. to perform a network install, you download a netinst iso from the web. This is an excellent opportunity for an attacker to feed you a compromised image that will be running as root on your computer. You can avoid this risk by checking the MD5SUMS file in the same directory as the iso, and using the MD5SUMS.sign file to check that the MD5SUMS file isn't compromised too. Assuming that you have some way of running gpg, and some way of trusting the person who signed the image. Also assuming that the image you're downloading is a released version of the installer; daily builds arn't signed. Shortly after the installer boots up, it's connected to the network[4]. At this point it's vulnerable to anything that any linux kernel on the network is vulnerable to. If there's a remote exploit in the linux kernel, an attacker could compromise your installer as it's running. Suitable remote exploits are fairly rare, and the installer is probably not an ideal target to compromise, since it's not very similar to a standard linux distribution[3]. The only network services that the installer uses are dns and http, with the http being done by busybox wget and by apt. Any remote exploits in those programs could also be used to exploit the installer. All data received via http is required to be signed with gpg keys built into the installer[2]. While this does mean that remote exploits in gnupg[0] could also be used to exploit the installer, it cuts off most potential for the packages that are downloaded to be compromised. No additional services are started during the installation process[1]. Once the installation is complete and it boots into the installed system, whatever services are started by the tasks you selected are running, and any security issues with those have to be considered. -- see shy jo [0] Eg: http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2006-6235 [1] Unless you tell the installer to open a ssh network console. [2] Only true for the etch installer; the current stable version of the installer does not use gpg signatures. [3] Ie, it's running from a ramdisk, and is going to reboot in N minutes into the installed system.. [4] Suppose I should mention that it uses dhclient, for completeness. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/26/07 19:03, Hodgins Family wrote: Many people are installing Debian from the internet. Yet, the Securing Debian Manual suggests no contact with the internet until the installation is secure. The manual states that installing the OS off the web is not the best idea (Section 3.3 found here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch3.en.html ) Is the manual WRONG about net installs? Did you *read* the link you posted? 3.3 Do not plug to the Internet until ready The system should not be immediately connected to the Internet during installation. [snip] If you cannot do this, you can set up firewall rules to limit access to the system while doing the update (see Security update protected by a firewall, Appendix F). http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ap-fw-security-update.en.html Are net installs (let's say for a Desktop environment) totally without vulnerability risks? When, during an installation, do/should people think about security/vulnerability issues of the software they are installing? Actually, not much. Firewalling routers are $50 and do a reasonably good job. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFus6nS9HxQb37XmcRAntCAKCM00OOHjG8XIy1BfsNZqOOjG1vXQCg2+hh GWdbAo57hNENVUGg0Sb3QYQ= =AzCV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/26/07 19:28, s. keeling wrote: Sven Arvidsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 16:08 -0800, j Mak wrote: [snip] And I would imagine any of them could be used if you chose to avoid those three. Try out some of the other wm's. You might like them. Gnome, KDE, and XFCE are not the only choices available. Yes they are. Unless you want to be investigated by Them. The NSA the RCMP are suspicious of anyone running desktop Linux (too many freethinkers), and are *very* suspicious of people running software with names like ratpoison, fluxbox ion3. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFus+wS9HxQb37XmcRAgNDAJ9aFH8vQ40tKbP/SXVp2GiUQsXHSwCgpQHK m2crsgBOO0kHG8lF1rEKMZc= =ZPqe -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security
Hmmm, every time I do a net install, it installs the base files first, reboots, and then uses the actual system to install the rest... Angelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security
Did you *read* the link you posted? Yes, I've read/seen this Appendix F section in various versions. Up until the last version that I read (version 3.10 of last November) there has been a FIXME: test this setup to see if it works properly. Didn't exactly inspire me to use it as an aid for net installations! Now, I'm seeing that the January version of the document no longer has the FIXME in it. Sorry for missing that the FIXME had gone missing! Shouldn't the setup of a firewall be part of the installation routine? Perhaps prior to running tasksel, some script could query the user about using a firewall and/or help him/her set an appropriate one up? Yeah, I know this sounds odd, but when a user is doing a installation and there is not a mention of firewalls during the procedure, and when the user reads the Installation manual and there is only one mention of firewalls (not in the context of the actual installation), I think that the user is not being fully informed at exactly the time he or she needs as much information as possible. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/27/07 01:16, Hodgins Family wrote: Did you *read* the link you posted? Yes, I've read/seen this Appendix F section in various versions. Up until the last version that I read (version 3.10 of last November) there has been a FIXME: test this setup to see if it works properly. Didn't exactly inspire me to use it as an aid for net installations! Now, I'm seeing that the January version of the document no longer has the FIXME in it. Sorry for missing that the FIXME had gone missing! Shouldn't the setup of a firewall be part of the installation routine? Perhaps prior to running tasksel, some script could query the user about using a firewall and/or help him/her set an appropriate one up? Probably so. Yeah, I know this sounds odd, but when a user is doing a installation and there is not a mention of firewalls during the procedure, and when the user reads the Installation manual and there is only one mention of firewalls (not in the context of the actual installation), I think that the user is not being fully informed at exactly the time he or she needs as much information as possible. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFuv4xS9HxQb37XmcRAjkyAJ9D977IbjeKWtL17nzqH7N9QoabZgCeKTSS a19UixHKvZJZLVzjDcPcRco= =4Zyl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 01:24:33 -0600 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shouldn't the setup of a firewall be part of the installation routine? Perhaps prior to running tasksel, some script could query the user about using a firewall and/or help him/her set an appropriate one up? Probably so. ~$ apt-cache search firewall | wc -l 130 From those I counted at least 10 to be firewalls. So which one will be the default one? Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein)
Re: Simple question
On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 05:08:33PM -0500, David R. Litwin wrote: What's the command to stop a service like gdm? Killall. Seems like a bad idea, unless the service is hung. Using the proper init script would make more sense. To simply stop the service, /etc/init.d/gdm stop as root would do the trick. To change things so that it does not start on the next boot, removing the symlink in the appropriate runlevel (the default is 2, I believe) would do the trick. If you're concerned with managing services on boot in general then I highly recommend a program such as sysv-rc-conf or rcconf to manage the symbolic links for you. Actually, I needed to stop gdm only for installing a package. But you have given me very valuable information. I appreciate your feedback. Teilhard. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Simple question
Teilhard Knight wrote: What's the command to stop a service like gdm? Formally it's: invoke-rc.d gdm stop But everybody (including myself) uses: /etc/init.d/gdm stop To stop it permanently use: update-rc.d gdm remove Thanks a lot. Teilhard. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Simple question
Am 2005-12-20 04:04:24, schrieb Teilhard Knight: What's the command to stop a service like gdm? It depends. 1) For killing it the current bootet Computer /etc/init.d/gdm stop 2) Only from the runlevel 2 rm /etc/rc2.d/??gdm 3) Permanently apt-get --purge remove gdm Thank you very much. Teilhard. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Simple question
On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 17:08 -0500, David R. Litwin wrote: What's the command to stop a service like gdm? Killall. Or '/etc/init.d/gdm stop' Right, thank you. Teilhard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Simple question
On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 03:05:38PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2005-12-20 04:04:24, schrieb Teilhard Knight: What's the command to stop a service like gdm? It depends. 1) For killing it the current bootet Computer /etc/init.d/gdm stop 2) Only from the runlevel 2 rm /etc/rc2.d/??gdm 3) Permanently apt-get --purge remove gdm 4) From all runlevels: update-rc.d -f gdm remove -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Simple question
Am 2005-12-20 04:04:24, schrieb Teilhard Knight: What's the command to stop a service like gdm? It depends. 1) For killing it the current bootet Computer /etc/init.d/gdm stop 2) Only from the runlevel 2 rm /etc/rc2.d/??gdm 3) Permanently apt-get --purge remove gdm Greetings Michelle -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/3/8845235667100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Simple question
What's the command to stop a service like gdm? Teilhard. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Simple question
What's the command to stop a service like gdm? Teilhard. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Simple question
On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 04:25:04AM -0600, Teilhard Knight wrote: What's the command to stop a service like gdm? /etc/init.d/gdm stop -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Simple question
What's the command to stop a service like gdm?Killall. -- —A watched bread-crumb never boils.—My hover-craft is full of eels.—[...]and that's the he and the she of it.
Re: Simple question
On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 05:08:33PM -0500, David R. Litwin wrote: What's the command to stop a service like gdm? Killall. Seems like a bad idea, unless the service is hung. Using the proper init script would make more sense. To simply stop the service, /etc/init.d/gdm stop as root would do the trick. To change things so that it does not start on the next boot, removing the symlink in the appropriate runlevel (the default is 2, I believe) would do the trick. If you're concerned with managing services on boot in general then I highly recommend a program such as sysv-rc-conf or rcconf to manage the symbolic links for you. -- Steve Block http://ev-15.com/ http://steveblock.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Simple question
Teilhard Knight wrote: What's the command to stop a service like gdm? Formally it's: invoke-rc.d gdm stop But everybody (including myself) uses: /etc/init.d/gdm stop To stop it permanently use: update-rc.d gdm remove -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Simple question
On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 17:08 -0500, David R. Litwin wrote: What's the command to stop a service like gdm? Killall. Or '/etc/init.d/gdm stop' -- Glenn English [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
simple question
hi all, i'm trying to use gvim options window to set my own display settings, but i don't understand what this line means: Hit CR on a set line to execute it. i tried with Ctrl or Ctrl+R but nothing happened please help bye -- roberto debian sarge, kernel 2.6.8
Re: simple question
On 9/9/05, Jay Vollmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 09 September 2005 02:53, roberto wrote: Hit CR on a set line to execute it. i tried with Ctrl or Ctrl+R but nothing happened Hi Roberto. CR usually means Carriage-Return - in other words, hit the ENTER key. yes, it works, thank you! bye -- roberto debian sarge, kernel 2.6.8
Simple question about upgrading programs
I used to compile Xorg and mplayer from cvs. For mplayer I generate the debian package and in the case of Xorg use make install. My question is: do I need to uninstall the previously installed mplayer or Xorg before installing the new one, or I can install the new ones over the old ones? Thanks.
Re: Simple question about upgrading programs
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 11:41:29PM +0300, Andras Lorincz wrote: I used to compile Xorg and mplayer from cvs. For mplayer I generate the debian package and in the case of Xorg use make install. My question is: do I need to uninstall the previously installed mplayer or Xorg before installing the new one, or I can install the new ones over the old ones? First. Please don't hijack a thread. Start a new one. Second, in the case of Debian package, no uninstallation is necessary. In the case of Xorg, I am not sure (as I don't use it) but most from source installs can be done over a previous version. You will need to read the README, NEWS, and any other release notes with your source. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~sanchezr pgpKCZyfl1Kte.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Simple question about upgrading programs
Thanks, and sorry for that thread thing, it was not intentional :) On 6/5/05, Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 11:41:29PM +0300, Andras Lorincz wrote: I used to compile Xorg and mplayer from cvs. For mplayer I generate the debian package and in the case of Xorg use make install. My question is: do I need to uninstall the previously installed mplayer or Xorg before installing the new one, or I can install the new ones over the old ones? First. Please don't hijack a thread. Start a new one. Second, in the case of Debian package, no uninstallation is necessary. In the case of Xorg, I am not sure (as I don't use it) but most from source installs can be done over a previous version. You will need to read the README, NEWS, and any other release notes with your source. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~sanchezr
simple question
Can somebody tell me what a kernel_lock() is? thanks in advance, PA
Re: simple question
On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 08:57:14PM +0100, Paul Akkermans wrote: Can somebody tell me what a kernel_lock() is? I suggest try a list that knows about the kernel! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: simple question
On Thu, Dec 16, 2004 at 07:14:04AM +1100, Sam Watkins wrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 08:57:14PM +0100, Paul Akkermans wrote: Can somebody tell me what a kernel_lock() is? I suggest try a list that knows about the kernel! Capable of subscribing to debian-user but clueless about Google - I don't know what to make of it. -- Mike Moving forward in pushing back the envelope of the corporate paradigm. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
very simple question that I can't answer
Hi guys I want to install Java based products starting with jdk itself. But I dont have make installed because it belongs to the developer package. questions: - where to get that package? - how to install it? - how to register to this list? Saludos Maquina _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: very simple question that I can't answer
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 14:30:25 +, Samuel Ferrer wrote: Hi guys I want to install Java based products starting with jdk itself. But I dont have make installed because it belongs to the developer package. questions: - where to get that package? which package jdk or make. make comes with GNU Utils JDK at java.sun.com - how to install it? which package jdk or make. - how to register to this list? be more specific..! Saludos Maquina Regards. -- Sergio Basurto J. If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants. (Isaac Newton) -- -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: very simple question that I can't answer
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 14:30:25 +, Samuel Ferrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys I want to install Java based products starting with jdk itself. But I dont have make installed because it belongs to the developer package. questions: - where to get that package? - how to install it? From your favorite debian mirror: apt-get install make - how to register to this list? There are complete instructions at http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ (Cc'ed because you evidently aren't on the list.) -- Michael A. Marsh http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~mmarsh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Smartmontools (Simple question)
In the /etc/init.d script for smartmontools there is a condition that checks whether start_smartd is equal to yes. Is there a proper way to set this variable so that smartmontools starts at boot -- or is the whole thing a leftover SuSEism and thus a bug that should be reported? This is with version 5.26-4 on Sid. TIA James -- James Tappin, O__ I forget the punishment for using [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- \/`Microsoft --- Something lingering http://www.tappin.me.uk/with data loss in it I fancy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Smartmontools (Simple question)
On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 06:45:50PM +, James Tappin wrote: In the /etc/init.d script for smartmontools there is a condition that checks whether start_smartd is equal to yes. Is there a proper way to set this variable so that smartmontools starts at boot -- or is the whole thing a leftover SuSEism and thus a bug that should be reported? Have a look at /etc/default/smartmontools LLAP, Martin signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Smartmontools (Simple question)
James Tappin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the /etc/init.d script for smartmontools there is a condition that checks whether start_smartd is equal to yes. Is there a proper way to set this variable so that smartmontools starts at boot Check /etc/default/smartmontools -- Alan Shutko [EMAIL PROTECTED] - I am the rocks. Famous Last Insults - Hey DRACULA. BITE ME! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Smartmontools (Simple question)
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 13:05:55 -0600 Alan Shutko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Tappin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the /etc/init.d script for smartmontools there is a condition that checks whether start_smartd is equal to yes. Is there a proper way to set this variable so that smartmontools starts at boot Check /etc/default/smartmontools Thanks James -- James Tappin, O__ I forget the punishment for using [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- \/`Microsoft --- Something lingering http://www.tappin.me.uk/with data loss in it I fancy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LDAP simple question
Hi all, I started to play with ldap today. Installed openldapd for potato. I have a simple domain: animus.com.br and put the following at sladp.conf include /etc/openldap/slapd.at.conf include /etc/openldap/slapd.oc.conf schemacheck off loglevel-1 databaseldbm suffix dc=animus,dc=com,dc=br directory /usr/local/teste rootdn cn=Manager, dc=animus, dc=com, dc=br rootpw secret index cn,sn,uid index objectclass organization, person index default none I put another file myldif.ldif: dn: dc=animus, dc=com, dc=br dc: animus o: Animus objectclass: organization objectclass: dcObject dn: cn=Manager, dc=animus, dc=com, dc=br cn: Manager sn: Manager objectclass: person When I try: animus:/var/lib/openldap# ldapadd -f /tmp/newentry -D cn=Manager, o=TUDelft, c=NL -w secret ldap_bind: Invalid credentials When I try to start ldap I get at syslog: May 27 14:51:19 machine slapd[1795]: line 8 (database^Ildbm) May 27 14:51:19 machine slapd[1795]: line 10 (suffix^I^Idc=animus,dc=com,dc=br) May 27 14:51:19 machine slapd[1795]: line 12 (directory^I/usr/local/teste) May 27 14:51:19 machine slapd[1795]: line 14 (rootdn cn=Manager, dc=animus, dc=com, dc=br) May 27 14:51:19 machine slapd[1795]: line 15 (rootpw secret) May 27 14:51:19 machine slapd[1795]: line 17 (index cn,sn,uid) May 27 14:51:19 machine slapd[1795]: line 18 (index objectclass pres,eq) May 27 14:51:19 machine slapd[1795]: line 19 (index default none) May 27 14:51:19 machine slapd[1798]: bind() failed errno 98 (Address already in use) What can be wrong? TIA,Paulo Henrique -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Few Simple Question
Greetings Debian Community! I am currently a computer networking student researching different flavours of Unix/Linux. From the advice of my instructor, I have shosen to research Debian. He says it's, "Really Cool" I find it very appealing and hope to install it as soon as my system is set up. I have a few specific questions I'd like to ask. The information on your webpage and FAQ is simply so immense, a simple site search is a bit confusing. 1. What is the user base targeted? Is it simply geared towards the home-user looking for a free OS? Or is it geared more towards the power-user? 2. Where is Debian located? I understand there are over 800 distrubuters nationwide that communicate via e-mail and message boards. But is there a specific "home" to debian? 3. What is the latest Kernel version? 4. What is the default desktop? and what others are included? 5. What, if any, office suites are included? Thank You very much and I look forward to joining the wonderful world of open source OS! Francis Pineda Phoenix, AZ
Re: Few Simple Question
On Tuesday 19 February 2002 07:29, Francis Pineda wrote: Greetings Debian Community! I am currently a computer networking student researching different flavours of Unix/Linux. From the advice of my instructor, I have shosen to research Debian. He says it's, Really Cool I find it very appealing and hope to install it as soon as my system is set up. I have a few specific questions I'd like to ask. The information on your webpage and FAQ is simply so immense, a simple site search is a bit confusing. 1. What is the user base targeted? Is it simply geared towards the home-user looking for a free OS? Or is it geared more towards the power-user? Well there are a lot of different minds concerning this. In my opinion, it is perfectly useable as a home-OS, once configured. But it's true that the first time I installed a Debian I had some problem with getting network and this kind of stuff. However, if you want KDE and this kind of packages, you have to use them in testing, or even unstable, and this can be more a power-user thing - even if docs and other users are there. 2. Where is Debian located? I understand there are over 800 distrubuters nationwide that communicate via e-mail and message boards. But is there a specific home to debian? hmmm... http://www.debian.org ? :o) there you can have docs, a list of mirrors, access to ML... 3. What is the latest Kernel version? The latest kernel version in general is 2.4. The kernel used in last stable release (aka potato r5) is 2.2.19. The kernels provided in testing/instable are 2.2.20 and 2.4.16. But it's really easy to recompile one if you don't want those ;o) 4. What is the default desktop? and what others are included? There is no 'default desktop'. In stable you can use Gnome, and classic WM like fvwm, enlightenment, blackbox, windowmaker. If you run testing or unstable, you can also have KDE. 5. What, if any, office suites are included? I'm not sure there is an office suite included. Well there is KOffice in testing/unstable... doesn't work that well however in my opinion. I use LaTeX for text processing, gnumeric for excel-like stuff and prosper for presentations ;-) Thank You very much and I look forward to joining the wonderful world of open source OS! Hope I have partially answered your questions ;o) Francis Pineda Phoenix, AZ Isabelle HURBAIN
Re: Few Simple Question
On Tue, 2002-02-19 at 00:29, Francis Pineda wrote: Greetings Debian Community! Greetings! 1. What is the user base targeted? Is it simply geared towards the home-user looking for a free OS? Or is it geared more towards the power-user? Supposedly it's the home user, but considering the difficulty as compared to something like Windows (or an easy Linux distrib like Red Hat or Mandrake) I'd have to say that Debian is for the computer literate and above home users. 2. Where is Debian located? I understand there are over 800 distrubuters nationwide that communicate via e-mail and message boards. But is there a specific home to debian? If you mean the main site it's where you probably signed up for this list at. www.debian.org 3. What is the latest Kernel version? 2.4.17 I do believe. But that's a Linux issue, not a Debian issue per se. Check out www.kernel.org 4. What is the default desktop? and what others are included? Default desktop is Gnome. You can also install KDE. And a LOT of different window managers. 5. What, if any, office suites are included? I don't think any real office suite is included by default with Gnome. KDE comes with KOffice. You can always get StarOffice from Sun though, which is free and works fine on any Java platform. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Few Simple Question
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 23:29:44 -0700 Francis Pineda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. What is the user base targeted? Is it simply geared towards the home-user looking for a free OS? Or is it geared more towards the power-user? From professionals to professionals, I don't think Debian is home-user-ready, but there're lots of people interested in working and helping on that direction (like me, for one)... today I'd say Debian is for the power-user 2. Where is Debian located? I understand there are over 800 distrubuters nationwide that communicate via e-mail and message boards. But is there a specific home to debian? distributers? I think the other repliers misunderstood this, or maybe I... or better... maybe you =) there aren't 800+ distributers, there are 800+ registered Debian Developers, which are persons offically working on Debian in a volunteer basis yes, there's home for Debian it's called earth by americans, some people say world to reference that home too... people around the globe have other names for that home as well... I usually call it 'mundo', or 'terra' =) Thank You very much and I look forward to joining the wonderful world of open source OS! be welcome []s! -- Gustavo Noronha Silva - kov http://www.metainfo.org/kov *-* -+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+-+ | .''`. | Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org | | : :' : + Debian BR...: http://debian-br.cipsga.org.br+ | `. `'` + Q: Why did the chicken cross the road? + | `-| A: Upstream's decision. -- hmh | *-* -+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+-+
Re: Few Simple Question
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 23:29:44 -0700, Francis Pineda wrote: Greetings Debian Community! I am currently a computer networking student researching different flavours of Unix/Linux. From the advice of my instructor, I have shosen to research Debian. He says it's, Really Cool I find it very appealing and hope to install it as soon as my system is set up. I have a few specific questions I'd like to ask. The information on your webpage and FAQ is simply so immense, a simple site search is a bit confusing. 1. What is the user base targeted? Is it simply geared towards the home-user looking for a free OS? Or is it geared more towards the power-user? I would say the serious user. Linux, generally, and Debian, in particular, are not plug in and run appliances. 2. Where is Debian located? I understand there are over 800 distrubuters nationwide that communicate via e-mail and message boards. But is there a specific home to debian? You've heard of distributed computing? Debian is distributed development. 3. What is the latest Kernel version? 2.2.x through bleeding edge roll your own 2.5 (not for the faint hearted or a 'working' box) 4. What is the default desktop? and what others are included? There are 2 desktop environments (run either or neither) and umpteen window managers in X11R6 5. What, if any, office suites are included? There are suites, but why bother. In Linux you can pick and choose among any number of applications for a particular job. On the other hand you don't load up on bloatware containing 'features' you'll never use, or are not quite the best choice. Make your own suite to match your needs and preferences. If you need to add something else later or want to change out an app--just do it (tm). Oh, and by the way, you really should get a mail client other than outlook express. It's like carrying a bullseye for crackers. That and set word-wrap to 72 chars :) (that's for Karsten ;-}) gt Yes I fear I am living beyond my mental means--Nash
Re: Few Simple Question
Greetings Debian Community! I am currently a computer networking student researching different flavours of Unix/Linux. From the advice of my instructor, I have shosen to research Debian. He says it's, "Really Cool" I find it very appealing and hope to install it as soon as my system is set up. I have a few specific questions I'd like to ask. The information on your webpage and FAQ is simply so immense, a simple site search is a bit confusing. 1. What is the user base targeted? Is it simply geared towards the home-user looking for a free OS? Or is it geared more towards the power-user? 2. Where is Debian located? I understand there are over 800 distrubuters nationwide that communicate via e-mail and message boards. But is there a specific "home" to debian? 3. What is the latest Kernel version? 4. What is the default desktop? and what others are included? 5. What, if any, office suites are included? Thank You very much and I look forward to joining the wonderful world of open source OS! Francis Pineda Phoenix, AZ
Re: Few Simple Question
On Monday 18 February 2002 10:29 pm, Francis Pineda wrote: Greetings Debian Community! I am currently a computer networking student researching different flavours of Unix/Linux. From the advice of my instructor, I have shosen to research Debian. He says it's, Really Cool I find it very appealing and hope to install it as soon as my system is set up. I have a few specific questions I'd like to ask. The information on your webpage and FAQ is simply so immense, a simple site search is a bit confusing. 1. What is the user base targeted? Is it simply geared towards the home-user looking for a free OS? Or is it geared more towards the power-user? 2. Where is Debian located? I understand there are over 800 distrubuters nationwide that communicate via e-mail and message boards. But is there a specific home to debian? please. you can't possible have made it here without prior awareness of debian.org. 3. What is the latest Kernel version? 4. What is the default desktop? and what others are included? 5. What, if any, office suites are included? - paste from a post that originally appeared on debian-kde - 1) Who you are, what you do in real life, how you got involved in Debian, and involved in KDE, what (if anything) you packaged in Debian before this, what (if anything) you did in KDE before this, why how you came to the decision to take on maintainership of the KDE packages. 2) What do you see as the time frame for upcomming Debian/KDE milestones? Such as: A) What is the plan/roadmap/future for KDE related things in Debian? the metapackage (or, what is it called now? Task?) of kde vs of kdebase. B) What's up w/ KOffice for Debian? Re: Woody or Sid? C) What's your recommendation regarding: would you advise people who want to be making productive use of KDE now to run Woody or Sid? D) What's up w/ KDE 3? - When, and for whom, should persons trying to make actual daily use of KDE begin to use KDE3? Can KDE2 KDE3 be put onto the same system, and switched between? Is it necessary to do a complete separate Debian install, (one for KDE2 one for KDE3) on the harddisk if one wants to be able to try switch between 2 3? I ask these questions since I'd like to make some judgements about what to put in the KDE HowTo I'm developing. For instance, I'd like to have good data to base a decision on regarding: should I suggest, (and write it from the perspective of) persons run Woody, and if necessary pull packages from Sid? Or, is will Sid be basically enough free of substantial problems that it would be better for most people trying to do productive work with KDE that they run Sid, in order to have the latest features? (For instance, two areas I'm currently possibly affected by are: 1) Kghostview - does the Sid version fix a major problem? 2) kde vs kdebase - does Sid have a kde package that provides many more features ( thus involves much less sw installation time/effort) than Woody?) It would be much appreciated if you would each free up some of your valueable time to each answer the above questions for all here who are interested in the future of KDE on Debian! -- end of paste -- hmmm. sounds like deja vu all over again. yo, francis, you don't mind if i cc this to chris cheney and daniel stone, do you? in fact, i think i will, anyway. btw, what part of phoenix do you live in? at which college, where instructors refer to debian as being really cool, are you a student? or, more to the point, which part of the salary paying machine do you work for? your questionnaires totally reek of factory training and, most especially, of insincerity. a genuine correspondent would hang a while and read the list, and would, above all, not pretend to be unaware of debian.org. the reason for my suspicion of you is that, in the past, you've displayed an inability to accord due respect for those who make debian possible, to those who actually give up real time in their own lives to support a principle and an ethic that you have apparently sold to the highest bidder. your contempt betrays your origin. the irony is that you will be, nonetheless, welcomed here, and aided in understanding that there is nothing that your masters can do about free software. not only will it continue to happen but those who finance your activities have already conceded its victory by clamoring to acquire patents on damn near everything that they can steal from here. i don't expect you to be able to convince your masters of the hopelessness of their desire for hegemony, but you, at least, given the history of your
Re: Few Simple Question
Em Ter, 2002-02-19 às 04:11, Gustavo Noronha Silva escreveu: On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 23:29:44 -0700 Francis Pineda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. What is the user base targeted? Is it simply geared towards the home-user looking for a free OS? Or is it geared more towards the power-user? From professionals to professionals, I don't think Debian is home-user-ready, but there're lots of people interested in working and helping on that direction (like me, for one)... today I'd say Debian is for the power-user 2. Where is Debian located? I understand there are over 800 distrubuters nationwide that communicate via e-mail and message boards. But is there a specific home to debian? distributers? I think the other repliers misunderstood this, or maybe I... or better... maybe you =) there aren't 800+ distributers, there are 800+ registered Debian Developers, which are persons offically working on Debian in a volunteer basis yes, there's home for Debian it's called earth by americans, some people say world to reference that home too... people around the globe have other names for that home as well... I usually call it 'mundo', or 'terra' =) And I don't know which nation he was talking about, the 800+ devellopers a scattered around debian's home: the world. (and that's only limited by the fact that no alien candidated yet :) ) Michel. Thank You very much and I look forward to joining the wonderful world of open source OS! be welcome []s! -- Gustavo Noronha Silva - kov http://www.metainfo.org/kov *-* -+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+-+ | .''`. | Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org | | : :' : + Debian BR...: http://debian-br.cipsga.org.br+ | `. `'` + Q: Why did the chicken cross the road? + | `-| A: Upstream's decision. -- hmh | *-* -+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+--+-+-+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Few Simple Question
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Francis Pineda wrote: (It's recommended you turn your line wraps on to 72 columns for the comfort of the people reading your messages) I am currently a computer networking student researching different flavours of Unix/Linux. From the advice of my instructor, I have shosen to research Debian. He says it's, Really Cool I find it very appealing and hope to install it as soon as my system is set up. You probably want to get a real ISP instead of using AOL-BBS to connect, since there isn't a version of AOL's software for unix at this point. 1. What is the user base targeted? Is it simply geared towards the home-user looking for a free OS? Or is it geared more towards the power-user? http://web.archive.org/web/20020219041410/http://ursine.dyndns.org/icons/debian/banner_a.gif This Debian banner used to run on my webpage, archive.org saved a copy. Debian tries to target everyone. 2. Where is Debian located? I understand there are over 800 distrubuters nationwide that communicate via e-mail and message boards. But is there a specific home to debian? I could be wrong, but Debian either doesn't have a physical location or is based out of the Free Software Foundation in Mass. 3. What is the latest Kernel version? There are about 10 kernels considered latest, as of this point in time. Go to http://kernel.org/ to see the latest version numbers. 4. What is the default desktop? and what others are included? None last I checked, but the last time I had to install from scratch was close to 5 years ago. 5. What, if any, office suites are included? None, if I rememember correctly, at this time. An old version of staroffice was once included. Staroffice, Openoffice and a number of other free office apps are easy to drop into place, though. Thank You very much and I look forward to joining the wonderful world of open source OS! Woohoo! -- Baloo
Re: Few Simple Question
On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 04:26:29AM -0800, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote: On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Francis Pineda wrote: 2. Where is Debian located? I understand there are over 800 distrubuters nationwide that communicate via e-mail and message boards. But is there a specific home to debian? I could be wrong, but Debian either doesn't have a physical location or is based out of the Free Software Foundation in Mass. Debian hasn't been an FSF project in several years. If it has physical locations at all, it might be where the major servers are located (master's in Texas, ftp-master's in Virginia, non-us is in the Netherlands, etc.), but even those are fairly distributed. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question about wildcards with tar
-Original Message- From:Walter Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:Wed, 03 Oct 2001 13:57:58 -0700 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: A simple question about wildcards with tar Greetings, I'm trying to make a backup with tar, but there are certain files that I don't want to include in the backup. Reading the info documentation about tar, it says that I can use the --exclude=PATTERN option. So if I type tar -cvf backup.tar --exclude='*.fig' * then it excludes all files that end with .fig. However, if I also want to exclude files that end with .fig.bak, then it seems that tar -cvf backup.tar --exclude='*.fig*' * should work. But it doesn't. Typing tar -cvf backup.tar --exclude='*.fig*' -- exclude='*.fig' * does work. But it won't work for me in the general case, where I won't know how many characters follow the pattern that I'm matching. Does anyone know how to do this? Thanks, Walter Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] How about: tar -cvf backup.tar --exclude='*.fig*' --exclude='*.fig?*' * If matches exactly four characters, then ?* should match any string of at least one, am I right? Y.Kelly ___ Visit http://www.visto.com. Find out how companies are linking mobile users to the enterprise with Visto.
A simple question about wildcards with tar
Greetings, I'm trying to make a backup with tar, but there are certain files that I don't want to include in the backup. Reading the info documentation about tar, it says that I can use the --exclude=PATTERN option. So if I type tar -cvf backup.tar --exclude='*.fig' * then it excludes all files that end with .fig. However, if I also want to exclude files that end with .fig.bak, then it seems that tar -cvf backup.tar --exclude='*.fig*' * should work. But it doesn't. Typing tar -cvf backup.tar --exclude='*.fig*' --exclude='*.fig' * does work. But it won't work for me in the general case, where I won't know how many characters follow the pattern that I'm matching. Does anyone know how to do this? Thanks, Walter Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A simple question about wildcards with tar
On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 01:57:58PM -0700, Walter Landry wrote: I'm trying to make a backup with tar, but there are certain files that I don't want to include in the backup. Reading the info documentation about tar, it says that I can use the --exclude=PATTERN option. So if I type tar -cvf backup.tar --exclude='*.fig' * then it excludes all files that end with .fig. However, if I also want to exclude files that end with .fig.bak, then it seems that tar -cvf backup.tar --exclude='*.fig*' * should work. But it doesn't. Are you by any chance using a version of libc6 less than 2.1.96-1? See bug #59829 for the gory details. The summary was: tar checks whether a name is excluded by using the libc function fnmatch() with FNM_FILE_NAME and FNM_LEADING_DIR. With these flags, a pattern like _* matches a string that contains something matching _* and containing no slashes, followed by a string containing exactly one slash: that is, the pattern is matched against everything but the final component of the file name and the preceding slash. * will match foo/bar, but not foo or foo/bar/baz, using these flags - despite the fact that the pattern foo will match all three of these strings using these flags. This causes tar a good deal of confusion. This was (eventually) fixed in glibc upstream. Unfortunately, I don't know of a workaround other than upgrading libc6, using another tool for now, or generating the list of files in some other way. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: magicfilter simple question
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 09:16:44PM -0700, Mike Egglestone wrote: Hi, I installed magicfilter and setup 2 remote printers. What would be the best way to add a 3rd printer? also, how do you set the default printer? Before, I would just blow away /etc/printcap and then add all 3 printers at once. Is there a better way? Would it be okay to backup my /etc/printcap file, then add my 3rd printer, (which gives me a new printcap with one printer), and then cut and paste my old printcap settings into my new /etc/printcap file? Sounds fine, I think. But I must admit, I did my config all manually by simply editing /etc/printcap and trying different options for a couple of days until it worked, so I don't know if the config interface has any strange limitations. -- This message is hastily written, please ignore any unpleasant wordings, do not consider it a binding commitment, even if its phrasing may indicate so. Its contents may be deliberately or accidentally untrue. Trademarks and other things belong to their owners, if any.
magicfilter simple question
Hi, I installed magicfilter and setup 2 remote printers. What would be the best way to add a 3rd printer? also, how do you set the default printer? Before, I would just blow away /etc/printcap and then add all 3 printers at once. Is there a better way? Would it be okay to backup my /etc/printcap file, then add my 3rd printer, (which gives me a new printcap with one printer), and then cut and paste my old printcap settings into my new /etc/printcap file? Thanks Mike
Re: a rather simple question
thanks a lot! philipp Eric Richardson wrote: Philipp Bliedung wrote: hi I have jdk-1.1.8-3 installed right now. I want to update to jdk-1.2.2 so I got the tar.gz file. Now my question: how can I _replace_ the old by the new? For jdk-1.1.8-3 I uesed apt-get and it told me to get the jdk-1.1.8-3 tar.gz file and installed it. How can I replace this version by the new one? I didn't find a package that does that. Hi, If you would like to try the blackdown jdk1.3, you could add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list # for blackdown jdk ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/debian potato non-free Then do a apt-get update; apt-get install j2sdk1.3 Other mirrors are available at http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/mirrors.html for potato and woody. Java3D and some other packages are available too. Hope this helps, Eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
a rather simple question
hi I have jdk-1.1.8-3 installed right now. I want to update to jdk-1.2.2 so I got the tar.gz file. Now my question: how can I _replace_ the old by the new? For jdk-1.1.8-3 I uesed apt-get and it told me to get the jdk-1.1.8-3 tar.gz file and installed it. How can I replace this version by the new one? I didn't find a package that does that. Thanks, Philipp
Re: a rather simple question
Philipp Bliedung wrote: hi I have jdk-1.1.8-3 installed right now. I want to update to jdk-1.2.2 so I got the tar.gz file. Now my question: how can I _replace_ the old by the new? For jdk-1.1.8-3 I uesed apt-get and it told me to get the jdk-1.1.8-3 tar.gz file and installed it. How can I replace this version by the new one? I didn't find a package that does that. Hi, If you would like to try the blackdown jdk1.3, you could add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list # for blackdown jdk ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/debian potato non-free Then do a apt-get update; apt-get install j2sdk1.3 Other mirrors are available at http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/mirrors.html for potato and woody. Java3D and some other packages are available too. Hope this helps, Eric
Re: DNS caching only name server: 1 simple question
MaD dUCK wrote: also sprach Phil Brutsche (on Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:27:54PM -0600): The problem that I am encountering is that whenever I reboot, my ISP's DHCP server re-assigns the nameserver IP addresses, even though the IP's of my ISP's DNS servers are static!! if you are using dhcpcd as your dhcp client, add -R to the OPTIONS line in /etc/dhcpc/config. martin [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo madduck@ !#:1:[EMAIL PROTECTED]|tr -d Thanks for the advice, I was going to attempt to write a scrit that would edit /etc/resolv.conf for me but I figure that editing my DHCP client settings would be a lot simpler. I still consider myslef a newbie when it comes to Linux, I've been using Linux for less then one year. Anyway, I found out that my system is running pump to configure my host via DHCP. Where would I find information on pump, and how could I configure it for my setup?
Re: DNS caching only name server: 1 simple question
also sprach Stefan Srdic (on Thu, 08 Mar 2001 09:32:22PM -0700): I still consider myslef a newbie when it comes to Linux, I've been using Linux for less then one year. Anyway, I found out that my system is running pump to configure my host via DHCP. Where would I find information on pump, and how could I configure it for my setup? um. man pump. just a thought. martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^.*|tr * mailto:; [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- la lune, c'est comme les canards il faut aimer caresser les chats pour avoir envie d'y aller.
Re: DNS caching only name server: 1 simple question
On 09-Mar-2001 MaD dUCK wrote: also sprach Stefan Srdic (on Thu, 08 Mar 2001 09:32:22PM -0700): I still consider myslef a newbie when it comes to Linux, I've been using Linux for less then one year. Anyway, I found out that my system is running pump to configure my host via DHCP. Where would I find information on pump, and how could I configure it for my setup? um. man pump. just a thought. A good alternative to pump is dhcpcd. Never had a problem with it before (I've been running it for nearly 3 months). -- Carlos Laviola - ICQ 55799523 pub 1024D/3516D372 2000-06-05 Carlos Laviola [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = 3BE1 6591 C78C 2AA4 31DD AEEF 6406 0227 3516 D372
DNS caching only name server: 1 simple question
I've recently learned how-to configure BIND as an DNS caching-only server. So far the DNS caching server configuration of BIND has proven to be awesome!! That combined with a few TCP/IP tweaks in the /proc filesystem and this Penguin flys :-D Throughout my testing I've only encountered one problem. Perhaps some of you might have some advice on it. In order to query the local DNS caching server you must change some of the resolver library settings in /etc/resolv.conf. Basically, you set up your local IP address (127.0.0.1) as the primary nameserver on your network. It looks like this once I'm done with it: domain telusplanet.net search telusplanet.net nameserver 127.0.0.1 nameserver 199.185.220.36 nameserver 199.185.220.56 The problem that I am encountering is that whenever I reboot, my ISP's DHCP server re-assigns the nameserver IP addresses, even though the IP's of my ISP's DNS servers are static!! This in affect re-writes the /etc/resolv.conf file to: nameserver 199.185.220.36 nameserver 199.185.220.52 nameserver 199.80.55.1 The only resources that I've read on BIND was the DNS HOW-TO over at www.linuxdoc.org and the chapter on DNS configuration in the Linux Network Administrators Guide. None of which address this issue. Any ideas? Thanks Stef
Re: DNS caching only name server: 1 simple question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... I've recently learned how-to configure BIND as an DNS caching-only server. So far the DNS caching server configuration of BIND has proven to be awesome!! That combined with a few TCP/IP tweaks in the /proc filesystem and this Penguin flys :-D :) Throughout my testing I've only encountered one problem. Perhaps some of you might have some advice on it. [cacheing dns setup] The problem that I am encountering is that whenever I reboot, my ISP's DHCP server re-assigns the nameserver IP addresses, even though the IP's of my ISP's DNS servers are static!! This in affect re-writes the /etc/resolv.conf file to: nameserver 199.185.220.36 nameserver 199.185.220.52 nameserver 199.80.55.1 You didn't mention how you connect to the internet, but it sounds like you have a cable modem and get your IP/DNS info via DHCP. All you really need to do is tell your DHCP client to override the DNS servers provided by your ISP. I don't know how to do this with pump; I use dhclient. I got it to work by putting supersede domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1; in /etc/dhclient.conf. - -- - -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG fingerprint: 9BF9 D84C 37D0 4FA7 1F2D 7E5E FD94 D264 50DE 1CFC GPG key id: 50DE1CFC GPG public key: http://tux.creighton.edu/~pbrutsch/gpg-public-key.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pwpN/ZTSZFDeHPwRAucEAJ9kjbMgi24PdhjLgLFD8uJEISWT5wCeKr6o +lxhME3D91lXhQN4oUFmpQo= =rbMi -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: DNS caching only name server: 1 simple question
also sprach Phil Brutsche (on Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:27:54PM -0600): The problem that I am encountering is that whenever I reboot, my ISP's DHCP server re-assigns the nameserver IP addresses, even though the IP's of my ISP's DNS servers are static!! if you are using dhcpcd as your dhcp client, add -R to the OPTIONS line in /etc/dhcpc/config. martin [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo madduck@ !#:1:[EMAIL PROTECTED]|tr -d -- to vacillate or not to vacillate, that is the question ... or is it?
Re: Simple question
In a galaxy not too far away, Salvador Petit Marti spoke on Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 09:24:48AM +0100: Sorry, I am a newbie in debian mailing lists... Is debian-user a good place to ask questions about usability/problems with woody? or there is another place?. I am subscribed to debian-testing but it yes. does not appear to have any traffic... Anyway, I am in woody cause of kde2. However, my current graphics hardware ? there is also kde2 for potato, you might want to use the following line in /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato kde2 greets, /stefan. (ViRGE GX/2 + SMP) seems not to be supported very well by XFree 4.0. I would like to maintain the previous release of XFree (3.3.6) but the problems are: 1º KDE2 _depends_ on XFree 4.0 ¿Is this dependence correct? I kept back the xserver-svga 3.3.6 and KDE2 runs fine but dselect gets crazy. 2º It is planned in woody to support the old version of XFree?. Now there is only a xserver-common-v3 incompatible with most X packages. Thanks, -- BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:3.0 FN:Salvador V. Petit Martí N:Petit Martí;Salvador;Vicente;; ORG:Universidad Politécnica de Valencia;DISCA ADR;TYPE=intl,post,parcel,work:;;Camino de Vera s/n;Valencia;;46022;España TEL;TYPE=work,voice:+34-96-3877007-5737 TEL;TYPE=work,fax:+34-96-3877579 EMAIL;TYPE=internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:2000-04-11 END:VCARD -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Simple question
Sorry, I am a newbie in debian mailing lists... Is debian-user a good place to ask questions about usability/problems with woody? or there is another place?. I am subscribed to debian-testing but it does not appear to have any traffic... Anyway, I am in woody cause of kde2. However, my current graphics hardware (ViRGE GX/2 + SMP) seems not to be supported very well by XFree 4.0. I would like to maintain the previous release of XFree (3.3.6) but the problems are: 1º KDE2 _depends_ on XFree 4.0 ¿Is this dependence correct? I kept back the xserver-svga 3.3.6 and KDE2 runs fine but dselect gets crazy. 2º It is planned in woody to support the old version of XFree?. Now there is only a xserver-common-v3 incompatible with most X packages. Thanks, -- BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:3.0 FN:Salvador V. Petit Martí N:Petit Martí;Salvador;Vicente;; ORG:Universidad Politécnica de Valencia;DISCA ADR;TYPE=intl,post,parcel,work:;;Camino de Vera s/n;Valencia;;46022;España TEL;TYPE=work,voice:+34-96-3877007-5737 TEL;TYPE=work,fax:+34-96-3877579 EMAIL;TYPE=internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:2000-04-11 END:VCARD
